Giotto's Lodge in Bangkok

[b][u][size=+1]1. General Information[/size][/u][/b]

[b]1.1 Livingstone's Lodge[/b]

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[b]1.2 History, Philosophy and Rules[/b]

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[b]1.3 Photo Policy[/b]

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[b]1.4 Website[/b]

[URL]http://www.livingstones.co.th[/URL]

[b]1.5 Room Reservation[/b]

[email]info@livingstones.co.th[/email]
[email]reservation@livingstones.co.th[/email]

[b]1.6 Contact[/b]

[email]info@livingstones.co.th[/email]

[b][color=red]1.7 Latest News / Events[/color][/b]

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[b][u][size=+1]2. Prices[/size][/u][/b]

[b]2.1 Room Rates[/b]

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[b]2.2 Bar Fines[/b]

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[b][color=red]2.3 Promotions[/color][/b]

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[b][u][size=+1]3. Pictures[/size][/u][/b]

[b]3.1 The Lodge / Rooms[/b]

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[b]3.2 The Sports Lounge[/b]

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[b]3.3 The Restaurants[/b]

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[b]3.4 The Pub[/b]

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[b]3.5 Festivals/Events[/b]

1) Loy Kratong, November 2005
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2) Songkran 2006, 13. - 15.04.2006
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3) Swimming Pool Party, 29.04.2006
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4) Maids Party, 13.05.2006
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5) Swimming Pool Party, 27.05.2006
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6) Swimming Pool Party, 24.06.2006
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7) Swimming Pool Party, 29.07.2006
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[b]3.6 Construction September/October 2006[/b]

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[b]3.7 Others[/b]

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[b][u][size=+1]4. Feedbacks[/size][/u][/b]

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[b][u][size=+1]5. Guests Reports and Stories[/size][/u][/b]

1.) 1Ball: "More Aspirin please", 05-07-06
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2.) Chalky26: The "Mighty Duck", 05-18-06
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....Chalky26: “The Slaughter of the Innocents” or “Tintin in Soi 33”, 05-18-06
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3.) Piper1: “Wednesday night at Giotto’s”, 05-25-06
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…. Piper1: “Welcome to the Jungle”, 05-27-06
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…. Piper1: “Jungle Girl”, 05-27-06
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…. Piper1: “Pool, Office, Five Star, Foursome”, 05-28-06
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…. Piper1: “Final Night at Livingstones (until next time!)”, 05-29-06
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4.) Traveler1234: “Long Beach”, 05-30-06
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....Traveler1234: “Long Beach, second Visit”, 06-01-06
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5.) Pool Guy: "Pool Guy in da house", 06-02-06
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.... Pool Guy: "A day late and a dollar (ok, a baht) short", 06-03-06
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.... Pool Guy: "A Day in the Life of the Ugly American: Pool Guy learns culture", 06-04-06
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.... Pool Guy: "Second time around better, but still more to learn…", 06-08-06
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6.) Crypton: "Livingstone's", 07-10-06
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7.) Fox Two: "Vacation in BKK Part 1", 07-23-06
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.... Fox Two: "Vacation in BKK Part 2", 07-24-06
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.... Fox Two: "Vacation in BKK Part 3", 07-31-06
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.... Fox Two: "Vacation in BKK Part 4", 08-01-06
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.... Fox Two: "Vacation in BKK Part 5 Finis", 08-22-06
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8.) Brain666: "Livingstones girls- Live view from last night", 07-30-06
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.... Brain666: "Livingstone’s girls in action: Nurse and performer", 07-31-06
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.... Brain666: "The pesky and Mrs. G's stable and how to continue", 08-02-06
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.... Brain666: "Who knows how to fill a Jacuzzi", 08-04-06
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.... Brain666: "My Bangkok adventures – Part 1/2 – of a middle aged newbie", 08-11-06 [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=494717&postcount=1121[/url]
.... Brain666: "My Bangkok adventures – Part 2/2 – of a middle aged newbie", 08-11-06
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9.) Minbao: "Bangkok newbie report", 08-30-06
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.... Minbao: "Bangkok newbie II", 08-31-06
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.... Minbao: "Bangkok newbie III", 09-01-06
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[b][u][size=+1]6. Giotto's Bangkok[/size][/u][/b]

1) Monet in Soi 33
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2) Five Star 1 in Soi Cowboy
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3) Sazanka Korean Massage
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4) Biergarten Soi 7
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5) Massage Parlors/Places in the Sukhumvit Area
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6) STDs - Risk Management
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1) Smilies/Smileys? Today/Tomorrow?
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2) After Songkran and Elections
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3) Newbies!!!
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4) Mick Jagger
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5) 3 men in a Boat
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6) Job Descriptions for Hostesses (1): Working Hours
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7) Livingstone's Gay Bar
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8) One day at Livingstone's
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9) The Truth about the Titans
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10) A Letter To A Groom
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11) Thailand in Yellow
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12) Mobile Service Center (MSCs)
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13) Oil Massage Disaster
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14) Bangkok Massage Parlors’ Legends
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15) The Duck's Farewell
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The Management
Livingstone's Lodge Co., Ltd.

[URL]http://www.livingstones.co.th[/URL]

[b]Bombs in the Word Trade Center at Midnight.[/b]

We got a warning by the police to ask our guests not to go out. I thought all that is rumor, as usual in Thailand.

I did not post it here.

I don't know what to say, I feel like shit.


Giotto

And there goes the high season. It doesn't take much to get the tourists to stay away.

It will be interesting to see if my company makes me change my travel plans. I am just hoping that they do not declare Bangkok off limits for a while. It was close with the coup, but bombs are even worse.

Personally I think the right reponse is to just go right on with all travel to Thailand. Why give the terrorists what they want?

I also guess this will really make the Thai stock market take an ever bigger dive.

Shit, two more bombs at Central World. This is really pissing me off. I hope they track these guys down and give them a couple of new assholes.

I really fear the Bangkok we all knew and loved is likely to disappear for a while, if not forever.

From the Nation site:

Two more bombs exploded in the heart of Bangkok once the new year started, severely injuring many foreign tourists and some Thais.

The two bombs exploded nearly at the same time seconds after the new year started.

The first bomb exploded at the Best Sea Foods restaurant on the Saen Saeb Canal near the Pratunam Pier just seconds after the New Year countdown ended.

Three foreigners and two Thais were injured. One of the foreigners had one leg amputated by the blast. The foreign tourists were having dinner at the restaurant.

Police said the bomb was hidden in a tire at the pier.

The second bomb exploded at a public telephone booth at the pedestrian flyover linking Central World and Kesorn Plaza. Several foreigners were injured and rushed to hospitals.

A suspected bomb was located at the Buddy Bar on Khao Sarn Road about half an hour after midnight and tourists were evacuated from the area.

By 1 am, police also disposed another bomb at the Lumpini Night Bazaar before it explodes.

Well the bombs won't change my mind about going to Bangkok but I can see where a lot of people would shy off for a while. It has been an interesting year for Thailand I hope 2007 is a lot better.

Crap Shoot - Nice to know someone else used the "5 nights in Bangkok" post. I took a copy last time and tried most of the things on it with good results. Maybe I will try the ones I missed when I am there next.

Happy and Safe New Years to all

PIT

Giotto,

I don't think anyone can tell you how to run your business and I am sorry that you feel shit, but if I was a guest in your hotel I would appreciate getting that kind of info - I would not go out.

Three years ago based on security alerts I did not go on a diving trip to the Sinai and instead came to LOS. ( Definitely not a bad thing). Bottom line is I missed the bombings in Sinai.

When I hear about terror alerts I listen to them. Call me paranoid or taking things to heart but I have spent to many years working in terror infested areas not to take terror alerts seriously. And as shit happens one can not tell whats going to happen where but something can be said for being well informed.

If it helps I will hopefully be in LOS in 3 months and will definitely spend part of if not all of my vac at Livingstones. ( If there is room )

I do hope that you have a great New Year with your wife.

[url]http://www.nationmultimedia.com/2007/01/01/headlines/headlines_30023026.php[/url]

Two more bombs explode at Central World, Pratunam

Two more bombs exploded in the heart of Bangkok once the new year started, severely injuring many foreign tourists and some Thais.

The two bombs exploded nearly at the same time seconds after the new year started.

The first bomb exploded at the Best Sea Foods restaurant on the Saen Saeb Canal near the Pratunam Pier just seconds after the New Year countdown ended.

Three foreigners and two Thais were injured. One of the foreigners had one leg amputated by the blast. The foreign tourists were having dinner at the restaurant.

Police said the bomb was hidden in a bumper tire at the pier.

The second bomb exploded at a public telephone booth at the pedestrian flyover linking Central World and Kesorn Plaza. Several foreigners were injured and rushed to hospitals.

It was fortunately that the New Year countdown event at Central World was earlier cancelled by 8 pm and thousands of revellers had already dispersed but many were still wandering around.

Police had to ask tourists and revellers to try to leave the area as soon as possible for fear that there could be another bomb.

Police said the bomb near Central World might be planted shortly before it exploded as police earlier checked the area but did not find it.

There were rumours of bomb explosions in many areas throughout the night and objects suspected to be bombs were sighted in several areas.

A suspected bomb was located at the Buddy Bar on Khao Sarn Road about half an hour after midnight and tourists were evacuated from the area.

By 1 am, police also disposed another bomb at the Lumpini Night Bazaar before it explodes.

Giotto,

How is it out there? You think more bombings are coming? I'm still looking forward to coming on the 11th unless things gets real bad out there.

[url]http://www.bangkokpost.com/breaking_news/breakingnews.php?id=115641[/url]

Travel warnings for foreigners

(Compiled by BangkokPost.com)

Australia has issued a new travel warning for nationals travelling to Thailand in the wake of New Year's Eve bombings in Bangkok which killed two people and injured at least 30 others.

The Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade has urged Australians to reconsider travelling to Bangkok.

"There is a possibility of further attacks in coming days," the department said. "Australians are urged to avoid unnecessary travel in Bangkok."

The British Foreign Office urged citizens already in Thailand to stay off the streets on New Year's.

The FCO, as the office is known, has changed its travel advice for the country, recommending Britons do not travel about in Bangkok "unless absolutely necessary".

Embassy officials have also set up two emergency phone numbers for anyone concerned about relatives who are currently in the Thai capital.

The FCO already had warned that there was a "high threat" of terrorism in Thailand, adding that attacks "could be indiscriminate and against places frequented by foreigners."

The two emergency numbers for anyone concerned about British relatives in Bangkok are (local numbers in the United Kingdom) 0066 2305 8253 or 0066 2305 8229.

On New Year's Eve, there were shows of bravado in downtown Bangkok. "No, I'm not scared. I'm from England. There are bomb scares all the time," said Keith Waters, who was with his Thai bride to celebrate the New Year.

The Canadian Department of Foreign Affairs issued an official warning advising Canadians against non-essential travel to Bangkok. It updated the travel report section of its website for Thailand.

“Canadians currently in Bangkok should maintain a high level of personal security awareness at all times and avoid unnecessary travel. They should avoid crowds and highly congested areas where demonstrations or violent disturbances could occur, monitor local news reports and follow the advice of local authorities,” reads the travel warning.

[QUOTE=Buzz00]Giotto,

I don't think anyone can tell you how to run your business and I am sorry that you feel shit, but if I was a guest in your hotel I would appreciate getting that kind of info - I would not go out.
...[/QUOTE]Buzz00,

Just to avoid misunderstandings: All our hotel guests which were still in the hotel got the message - of course. We recommended not to go out last night. I only did not post it here in the forum.

The information came from a phonecall with our friends in brown. We called them to get information about their knowledge about the situation in the city.

They told us that they had received a warning that there might be more attacks later in the night.

I did not post that here in the forum, but our hotel guests were informed.

There were so many rumors again last night - but up to now we still don't know who is really behind the bomb attacks.


Giotto

The new year eve attack was perpetrated by a jealous ISG member, in anticipation of pipeman's upcoming trip....merely a small welcome for him :D


On a serious note - many of us know that any bloodshed in Thailand does not occur when a coup occurs, but rather some time after the coup. No one knows for sure whether it's Mr. Thak or his cronies, or unrelated.....but the truth will come out soon, it always does.

In the meantime, keep a low profile, exercise usual caution and enjoy LOS. I wish I was there for the new year's party...belated happy new years to all.

T1234

As you all know we have contacts to the local police as well as to many embassies and the United Nations offices here in Bangkok, via the customers of our Restaurant and Sports Lounge.

And during the past few days the bombings were of course the mainly discussed issue everywhere.

The Rumors:

[b]More attacks are expected within this week. Avoid especially skytrain stations / the skytrain in general.[/b]

The bombs were small, mainly constructed to create a huge sound effect, but not to cause too much damage.

If the assumption is correct that those who lost power after the military coup of the 19th September are behind all that those people want to show that this government is vulnerable, weak and cannot assure the security in Bangkok. And the economy / tourism shall be hurt, to motivate Thai people to ask the old goverment back into office to stabilize the country and the economy.

[b]If that is so[/b] a second series of bomb attacks might follow to prove the vulnerability of the actual government.

Happy New Year.


Giotto

[QUOTE=Giotto]Sir,

After reading this specific report sequence I ask myself whether your "appointment" as Head of Livingstone's TQM department is justified - under this given Indian "circumstances" :) ...

Can you please publish a picture of your tool in action - we will then ask Moebius to comment on that.

Thank you.


Giotto[/QUOTE]
This Indian went to the Livingstone's Bar Saturday Night Party and to his surprise there was a 'big' horse (pun intended) tied to the bar rail. All the hostesses were milling about him. So the Indian asked the Duck what was going on.

"We have big contest. Make horse laugh you get 10,000 Baht. Horse not laugh, you pay 1,000 Baht bar fine."

So the Sir Duniawala goes to the horse and whispers something to the horse. The horse suddenly starts laughing hard. The Marketing Director has no choice and Sir D. walks out with 10,000 B.

Two months later, the Bestard walks in to another Saturday Night party and sees the same thing. A horse in the Livingstone's Lounge/Bar. This time the Duck says "make horse cry and you nake 20,000 B. So he walks up to the horse and after a few minutes he starts crying hard. Surprised the marketing Director throws his hand up and giving him the 20 Grand, asks for the secret of his success.

Well, the first time I told the horse, mine's bigger than yours. And the scond time I showed him. :D

Happy New Year and a Prosperous 2007 to all.

[QUOTE=Traveler1234]The new year eve attack was perpetrated by a jealous ISG member, in anticipation of pipeman's upcoming trip....merely a small welcome for him :D[/QUOTE]T1234 - that jealous ISG member needn't worry - this pipeman almost cancelled his trip due to killer flu. I made it here fully drugged and semi-conscious. Foremost on my mind was an upcoming wrestle with my pillow!

I dined poolside tonight with Giotto, Guido and a new member - Sexwithsmile - who's enjoying several weeks of fun in BKK and other exotic places. Lucky bestard. Nice of my ex-wife Fon to come over and say hi. I enjoyed the a couple of Livingstones special Irish coffees. Feeling better already!

Fon walked past several times, and each time, Giotto watched me out of the corner of his eye with a grin. Evil bestard. Fon is a slow sensual mover, so she may be just what the doctor ordered.

I'm staying in one of the new rooms - very nice. Only problem is that Giotto's room is next door, so I'll have to behave myself.

[QUOTE=Piper1]...Fon walked past several times, and each time, Giotto watched me out of the corner of his eye with a grin. Evil bestard. Fon is a slow sensual mover, so she may be just what the doctor ordered.

I'm staying in one of the new rooms - very nice. Only problem is that Giotto's room is next door, so I'll have to behave myself.[/QUOTE]Pipeman,

you look usually already much older than me. And I look damned old in the moment. Today - after your flue - you look very very very old.

Fon likes young men!

I find it my duty as ISG member to be in the room next to you - and report tomorrow in details :) !


Giotto

[QUOTE=Piper1]

I'm staying in one of the new rooms - very nice. Only problem is that Giotto's room is next door, so I'll have to behave myself.[/QUOTE]

G told me he'd have the presidential suite completed before your arrival.....i think he delayed it so that he could put you next door.... :D

Enjoy and be safe....

Giotto was right again.

In my semi-comatose state in the Sports Bar tonight, I asked Dr G for advice on which girl to take tonight. My body was aching all over, and I made it clear I wanted a good strong massage.

Giotto offered a massage, but I declined. He's not my type. ;)

He then pointed out one girl, saying she was a genuine nympho, and would wake me every 30 minutes wanting more and more and more. I told him "No way man! I need a massage and sleep!"

My ex-wife Fon was barfined already, but she kept coming over when her new husband went to the toilet, saying "Don't forget me, Mr Butterfly". She was in a good mood, and a little drunk - just how I like 'em.

I played pool with a few different girls over the night, and eventually chose a cutie to stay the night with. At first she said she wasn't sure if she wanted a customer. I blamed it on my baggy eyes from the flu. 30 minutes later, she came back with a smile and agreed to come back to my room with me.

We played some pool, and I pointed her out to Giotto. He told me she was the nympho he'd mentioned earlier. Damn!

Back to my room with Miss Nympho after closing time ... Shower, jacuzzi, massage, good sex twice. One slow thrust of anal, but then no more - "Hurt too much" - so I stopped. She tried for a third round, but I'm not the young man I used to be.

After we finished she offered to help me with shopping tomorrow for presents for my family. I said I'd be okay, not wanting any time commitments - who knows what time I'll wake up feeling like I do at the moment. She lives a few minutes walk from the Lodge, so we agreed she goes home, and maybe I'll see her when I return in about 10 days.

Nice girl - a 7 in looks, 9 in service. Her English is good, and she talked a lot (family etc), especially after the long strong oily massage.

Tomorrow's mission: be the *recipient* of a long strong oily massage! Giotto tells me there's a good genuine massage place across the street. I hope he's right again.

[quote=piper1]giotto was right again.

in my semi-comatose state in the sports bar tonight, i asked dr g for advice on which girl to take tonight. my body was aching all over, and i made it clear i wanted a good strong massage.

giotto offered a massage, but i declined. he's not my type. ;)

he then pointed out one girl, saying she was a genuine nympho, and would wake me every 30 minutes wanting more and more and more. i told him "no way man! i need a massage and sleep!"
...[/quote]pipeman,

i offered a massage??? bestard!

please, i want to sleep now, couldn't close my eyes last night with all the noise coming from the room next to mine...

btw: have you ever been raped in the hotel lobby? because - this is what will happen to you when you come back, and she sees you checking in!


giotto

ps: the video from last night will be available on youtube later today.

Rumors about another Coup today. And rumors about more bombs.

Only rumors up to now.


Giotto

A quick thank-you to Giotto and Guido for finding my stash of condoms and lube and 1000Baht in the drawer after I'd checked out, and returning it to me before I dashed for the airport. (I really don't remember putting 1000 cash in the drawer!)

Had a great stay as usual, despite being under the weather on arrival. The cure worked just fine. :)

Finally back to Livingstones after a one week stop-over in Phuket.

I love those rumours of a coup and bombs: the Australian General Manager of our office enforced a "stay-out-of-office" holiday....all paid by company... if all the business trips were like that.

2 days ago, I picked one of my favs from the Sport Lounge. Great GFE, the experience can be summarized as follows:

- one hour in the shower to clean thoroughly, remove make-up, get ready;
- 10 minutes to put my room in order (your room is so busy-busy);
- 20 minutes sex: "Oh Honey, Oh Honey. I came 3 times" - easy satisfaction guaranteed.

Yesterday, another shot from that little student at the Bachus next door. She is Miss "Oh Dear Oh Dear Oh Dear". She loves oral sex and advised her secret one-time experience with a girl. WHY do they make us dream about this, and need so much convincing to repeat that wonderful experience (with me between)??

Tonight, I think I shall be tempted by the little girl of G's stabble: "May pay kap customers". Who seems to have changed her mind.

day 2:

day two was a late starting day. after having three encounters on the first day right after flying in, i was pretty worn out. nevertheless, i got up at the crack of noon and stumbled downstairs for something to eat. now, at pretty much 99% of the hotels in the world, noon means that breakfast is over. not so at livingstone’s! i mentioned breakfast and as if by magic, the breakfast menu was placed in front of me. what great service.

after breakfast i was still in the ‘taking it easy’ mode, so i simply strolled down sukhumvit, checked out the markets and visited a tailor or two. i eventually settled on a tailor and had some great shirts made. i also picked up some great souvenirs down by the market that runs from soi 11 to nana roughly.

i headed back to livingstone’s and crossed paths with giotto’s # 2. i mentioned that i would be interested in a sight seeing excursion out of the city. perhaps to see the river kwai wwii era sights. would he have any suggestions on how to do this? he said no problem, and called a friend of his who runs a tourist company and booked me a day trip out of the city for day 3. wham, just as easy as that and i had that taken care of.

this night i decided to go out for dinner and when i came back the staff party was just beginning to fall into place. i got down early, around 9pm or so, and was confronted by one of giotto’s fun loving bar girls who was full of energy and much alcohol. not long afterward, i allowed her to talk me into a st encounter back upstairs in my room. after draining me by giving me one of the best bbbj’s i’ve ever had and fooling around for a while, i headed back downstairs. i was simply going down to get a drink or two but events transpired to make this one long night!

to begin with, i had the pleasure of meeting giotto. his # 2 introduced me, for giotto had just gotten back from europe that morning. i had a wonderful time sitting with giotto and watching the girls go crazy at the staff party. we had a really great conversation and i found him to be a true gentleman. as we sat at one of the tables things just kept getting crazier and crazier. the staff was definitely feeling little pain by now. consumption of conspicuous amounts of alcohol seemed to be fueling the nights madness! feeling a bit generous myself, and being on vacation i even got in the spirit and bought a round for the staff. mrs. g announced my gift over the loudspeaker and i suddenly became a staff favorite for the next few days.

then i started making eye contact with yet another bar girl. this girl was one of the cutest and best looking woman i had seen in thailand yet! i knew she was thai, but she had sort of tamilyn tomita look going for her. (karate kid part ii damsel in distress.) well, we decided that we needed more privacy to get to know one another and so we headed back up to my room. this girl was a fantasy come true. not only did i have the fun of having a movie star look-alike (in my eyes at least) this girl practically raped me. she stayed the rest of the night and wouldn’t allow me to go to sleep. she kept right at it for the next 4 hours of so, and before you knew it, it was dawn, and i had to catch my ride for my day 3 excursion trip. later, i had a chance to talk to giotto and he informed me that this girl had a well deserved reputation for being a nympho. yay!!

anyway, i knew i should be wiped out, but i was so giddy from having one the greatest nights of sex in my life that i was still full of energy. so, afterwards, i walked her down to sukhumvit, and bid her farewell. i then ducked into the 7eleven on the corner and grabbed 2 m150 power drinks. (no red bulls but the clerk told me that m150 was the best energy drink on the market) i downed those, went back to livingstone’s, took a shower, packed and was ready to meet my tour group which picked me up at the front of livingstone’s around 6:30am for my day 3.

now, hopefully, i can stay awake for day 3.

[size=-2][b][u]editor's note[/u]:[/b] [blue]i certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the reports of distinction thread. please [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?]click here[/url] for more information.[/blue][/size]

Lucky you Piper, I left a dildo, lube, and condoms last time I left, and have not been afforded the same courtesy. Maybe my TG for the night, who was still sleeping when I checked out, took everything with her. I hope she had fun with everything..........

[QUOTE=1Ball]Lucky you Piper, I left a dildo, lube, and condoms last time I left, and have not been afforded the same courtesy. Maybe my TG for the night, who was still sleeping when I checked out, took everything with her. I hope she had fun with everything..........[/QUOTE]Mr. Vice President,

We found all that, and sent it to your home address. I should be there already, please ask your wife whether she received and opened the package.

We are honest people here :) !


Giotto

[QUOTE=Giotto]
We are honest people here :) !
Giotto[/QUOTE]

Did you find that 10,000THB I left in the drawer last night in rm 115? Just credit it to my bar tab for when I return (that should be good for 2 nights). ;^)

Cheers,
-Y

[quote=crap game]then i started making eye contact with yet another bar girl. this girl was one of the cutest and best looking woman i had seen in thailand yet! i knew she was thai, but she had sort of tamilyn tomita look going for her. (karate kid part ii damsel in distress.) ...not only did i have the fun of having a movie star look-alike this girl practically raped me. she stayed the rest of the night and wouldn’t allow me to go to sleep. ...later, i had a chance to talk to giotto and he informed me that this girl had a well deserved reputation for being a nympho. [/quote]great report crap game.

i googled "tamilyn tomita", and there is a resemblance between her and miss nympho i enjoyed the night with two nights ago. also a resemblance with your description of her non-stop energy. i wonder if it's one and the the same girl?

giotto, did i spend the night with a movie star? :d

[QUOTE=Piper1]Great Report Crap Game.

I googled "Tamilyn Tomita", and there is a resemblance between her and Miss Nympho I enjoyed the night with two nights ago. Also a resemblance with your description of her non-stop energy. I wonder if it's one and the the same girl?

Giotto, did I spend the night with a movie star? :D[/QUOTE]

Gawd, what is going on here....nympho and movie stars? Mr. G, next visit I will have to break my own rule and barfine one of the your harem :)

[QUOTE=Giotto]Mr. Vice President,

We found all that, and sent it to your home address. I should be there already, please ask your wife whether she received and opened the package.

We are honest people here :) !
Giotto[/QUOTE]
Giotto, everything arrived yesterday, except for the 25cm strap on. I am sure Mrs G looks fabulous with it tied around her, and you on all fours. :D

[QUOTE=1Ball]Giotto, everything arrived yesterday, except for the 25cm strap on. I am sure Mrs G looks fabulous with it tied around her, and you on all fours. :D[/QUOTE]Mr. Vice President,

Oh, sorry, that was yours, too? I thought Mrs. Giotto had bought that...


Giotto

Well G, it doesn't really matter how she got it, does it, as long as she is able to service you and make you happy with it. hehehe ;)

Giotto - when you've finished with your strap-on adventures (what an image!), please tidy up Room 114 for my return next week. Looks like I may be accompanied by the cute blonde French girl from Dubai I told you about. No problems bringing her to the Lodge (I'm sure she'll love it), but I'm working on how to get her to agree to a photo-shoot.

Masks! That's it! Masks! :D

[QUOTE=Piper1]Giotto - when you've finished with your strap-on adventures (what an image!), please tidy up Room 114 for my return next week. Looks like I may be accompanied by the cute blonde French girl from Dubai I told you about. No problems bringing her to the Lodge (I'm sure she'll love it), but I'm working on how to get her to agree to a photo-shoot.

Masks! That's it! Masks! :D[/QUOTE]Pipeman,

You really prefer "French" now? Let me give you a "Greek" advice: To bring a Farang woman to Bangkok is like bringing owles to Athens!

Btw.: Room 114, Double Jacuzzi ... I think you need some more "Thai" support in there, I will have Mrs. Nympho waiting for both of you in the Jacuzzi. You then can "complete" your duties from your last visit...


Giotto

Merci for the good advice, Monsieur. But if you see her, you will know why! Ooh la la. Small slim cute bod, shy and naughty, big blue eyes. Plus, a long-term investment for me as a Dubai Mia Noi. Bringing her to BKK for a few days will hopefully reap its rewards. I did promise her travel and adventures after all, and I like to keep my promises. ;)

[QUOTE=Piper1]...I did promise her travel and adventures after all, and I like to keep my promises. ;)[/QUOTE]Pipeman,

wait...you promised her --- adventure???

OK, I will reserve a room for her (and me :)) !



Giotto

[quote=giotto]pipeman,

let me give you "greek"[/quote]umm, i like you giotto, but not that much. thanks for the offer, but no thanks!

(out of curiosity - does it involve 1ball's strap-on? it wasn't bad. i mean, it looked good, i mean - ah forget it!)

oh my god - is it too late to book peep inn instead?

:d

[quote=piper1]umm, i like you giotto, but not that much. thanks for the offer, but no thanks!

(out of curiosity - does it involve 1ball's strap-on? it wasn't bad. i mean, it looked good, i mean - ah forget it!)

oh my god - is it too late to book peep inn instead?

:d[/quote]pipeman,

that is too much! it is definitely a declaration of war, this self-arranged quote. besides that it is against the forum rules, too - so i will have you banned now. to even think about giving you "greek" creates a spontaneous desire to visit the restroom.

i don't know what mr. vice president and you did last time here at the lodge, when you shared the same room, but i really don't want to get involved in that. but all the hotel heard you shouting "hit me with your rhythm stick! hit me! hit me!" nobody of the hotel guests who were there that day will ever forget that.

peep inn seams to be the best solution for all of us. i will arrange the reservation for you.


giotto

Hit me slowly, hit me quick, hit me! HIT MEEE!

I really wish I could go back to work. Too much time on my hands.

[QUOTE=Piper1]...
I really wish I could go back to work. Too much time on my hands.[/QUOTE]Yes,

life is soooo boring. What would we do without the ISG :) ? Could spiked drinks might be an alternative...


Giotto

Business is good in the moment.

Yesterday a new experience for all of us: The first customer ever who rented TWO rooms for one night.

He checked in with his Thai GF in the old building and was not seen all afternoon. Then he spent a lot of time in the Sports Lounge and met the love of his life.

So he decided to rent a second room in the new building for that night, and disappeared.

Eversince we speculate, how this guy manages it to sleep in two beds same time :) ?


Giotto

You guys are having too much fun on the forum and you are giving all the rest of us images that we don't need.

Giotto, how are the politics in Bangkok the last few days? Have things quieted down? less tourists?

I will be there in March and will be sure to come by and visit the lodge, can you arrange another staff party :-)

PIT

[QUOTE=PassinThrough]You guys are having too much fun on the forum and you are giving all the rest of us images that we don't need.

Giotto, how are the politics in Bangkok the last few days? Have things quieted down? less tourists?

I will be there in March and will be sure to come by and visit the lodge, can you arrange another staff party :-)

PIT[/QUOTE]PassinThrough,

Can we really have too much fun :) ?

Things are quiet in Bangkok. Life returned to normal, including the daily traffic jam everywhere. It seams that the army is busy to solve their internal problems.

Up to now nobody knows who committed those bomb attacks, and the available information is mainly based on rumours and not on facts. It is desturbing but typically Thai.

The stock market recovered yesterday a bit, but we see huge amounts of outflowing foreign investors capital (3 Bio. US$ since the BoT imposed their measueres in late December). Surprisingly the THB is regaining strength, which is basically the best news of the past few days.

We had no cancellation of room reservations up to now, but a bit lower incoming reservation requests. But yesterday the numbers picked up again.

My personal opinion is that Bangkok is still one of the safest cities of the world, and that there is no reason to be really worried in the moment. But - if more bomb attacks will happen then we might see a serious impact on tourism in Thailand.

The actual leaders of the country have understood the message and intensify their security measures and grip on the political power. They know that history will wipe them out if the process of destabilization will continue.

Party: As usual there will be 2 parties every month: On the second Saturday of each month there is the MAIDS PARTY, and on the last Saturday of the month the SWIMMING POOL PARTY.

Hope to see you here.


Giotto

Giotto,

You are right, there is no such thing as too much fun.

Glad to hear things have calmed down and are back to normal. I will keep my fingers crossed that no more bombs go off but even that would not cause me to change my plans. The threat of random bombs never stopped me from going to Northern Ireland or any other place, why start with Thailand :-)

Looks like I will miss both parties, guess I will just have to start my own. I will see you, or at least the lodge in March.

PIT

Great potential: just remove her glasses, and loose her curly hair, remove her short pants and sandals, and with those flashing eyes she could really turn on every customer - even the thickiest ones.

So far Guido asked me a Thb 5 barfine, saying nobody wants her, but with some make-up we could increase it to Thb 1500 without problem.

And in addition, she told me she likes "sandwiches".. especially with a Sinatra musical background of "My Way".

I am so sorry I was unavailable this night, but I look forward for some deeper conversation after the "transformation".

Name available on PM.

As part of the Livingstones audit department, I shall add a few comments on the rooms:

- Beautiful and high quality curtains, they keep the lights out;

- Solid bed, can handle 3 people easily - even if you jump hard;

- DVD players available on request, not multi-standard but can play the stuff bought on the street - so when you are sleeping, one girl can climb on you and watch an erotic movie while providing a good pumping;

- I am afraid about those jacuzzi's, they are brand new, but some spare parts are quite shaky - hard sessions will cause damages.

- Restaurant provides personal service and quite good thai food mixed with chicken schnitzels (German specialty).

On the minus side: still no hamac hanging on the pool, or waterpipes in the bar, and the music (or the dj???) still needs some rejuvenation.

But I have the privilege of receiving discounts on my room simply by posting some nasty reports on this forum. How can life be better? Keep smiling.

[QUOTE=SexWithSmile]...But I have the privilege of receiving discounts on my room simply by posting some nasty reports on this forum. How can life be better? Keep smiling.[/QUOTE]SexWithSmile,

After your attempt of barfining the wrong person yesterday your discount is cancelled.


Giotto

Just as info for all those who suffered our low water pressure:

We decided to purchase a new system of pumps and water tanks - getting the quotations in this week.

The problem will be fixed soon (and hopefully our old water system will make it for the remaining few days).


Giotto

[QUOTE=Giotto]Just as info for all those who suffered our low water pressure:

We decided to purchase a new system of pumps and water tanks - getting the quotations in this week.

The problem will be fixed soon (and hopefully our old water system will make it for the remaining few days).


Giotto[/QUOTE]

Giotto,

remember our talk about the water system when I stayed in August:

Before getting quotations: Calculation of the capacity is required before that. Hope this is done properly.

I assume:
Peak ours for water system usage are 23:00h - 2:00h and 9:00h 12:00h.

Specially for the night time: I guess pipes, tank and pump dimmensional layout should serve simultanious fills of at least 7 Jacuzzies without any pressure drop.

regards

Brain666

[QUOTE=Brain666]...
Before getting quotations: Calculation of the capacity is required before that. Hope this is done properly.
...
[/QUOTE]Brain666,

LOL. For sure not...

With that water system we will be able to support a 100 room hotel.


Giotto

I have listened to a very sad story here.

Troubled by some previous experience, I came here incognito, so nobody knew I was here on a mission, and hidden under a woolen hat and dark glasses, the Lord-Of-The-House could not recognize me.

Then, I found that sad and malnourished-looking girl, and being seduced by her eyes imploring for some compassion, I start a conversion with her. We decided to continue it in a quieter place: my room, but to ensure her of the honnesty of my intentions, I sit at the other side of the room while she told me her sad story:
She did study Thai ballet, and hoped to raise a large family with a honnest gentleman, adopt some children from the poor people, and to found a local dancing school.

Then came to her village a vile German-looking man (let us call him G.), with glasses, curly hair, shorts and sandals. Despite her initial repulsion at his appearance, he managed to gain her trust by sharing her dreams. He had the money ready for the school, and was himself fond of children. So she introduced him to all her family and village, who congratulated her. He also promised to support all the needy families with a health insurance.

He asked her to come to Bangkok for the papers. As Bangkok was something new to her (she never went out of her district and only knew the big city from the TV series), she eerily agreed. He took her in his car, and they arrived at the wee hours through a narrow, dark road. There things started to get ugly.

They entered through a backdoor, and she realized the horrible truth: she would have to serve sex-starved stincking falangs, under the dominance of the greedy G. and his harem.

Lack of proper food reduced her weight to 40 kilos. Any disobedience was met with a a slap on her face with the G.’s sandal. Her work started at 6:00 am by cleaning the detritus left by the vile G. in his room, after his drinking parties, then helping him to walk to the shower, preparing his breakfast, ironing his clothes, and finally toiletting herself and go to the Sport Lounge, dusting the chairs, and getting ready for another night of forced debauchry. All her meager savings (the greedy G. was taking 90% of what he had previously negotiated with the customers to abuse her) were sent to her parents. The only way for her to go out of this nightmare was to “buy” her freedom to the enslaving G., around 1 million Baths.

Anyone who wants to participate to this noble cause, I have set a charity fund. Now she fears for her security and is hiding under the sheets of my room.

Now you know the truth. Please help me to defeat the evil G.

[QUOTE=Giotto]Brain666,

LOL. For sure not...

With that water system we will be able to support a 100 room hotel.


Giotto[/QUOTE]

LOL
thats also a calculation and this time on the safe side for the jacuzzi using customer.

regards

Brain666

[QUOTE=SexWithSmile]...
Now you know the truth. Please help me to defeat the evil G.
...[/QUOTE]SexWithSmile,

I will help! Where do we find this bestard G. ???


Giotto

Having worked the last better part of a year in a remote part of the globe, starved of female charms and therefore accumulating some excess cash, I have been planning a trip to Bangkok for quite some time. Having read the forums I decided that the best thing a new farang such as myself could do would be to stay at the Livingstones Lodge, owned and run by our own Giotto.

No matter how experienced one might be as an international monger or how much you read the forum beforehand, there will always be some things that will cause anxiety to any newcomer. It is a type of 'insider trading' knowledge, such as Thai girl mentality, which places and girls are crazy, the local art of negotiation, and how to get around and locate things without winding up lost, robbed, or fleeced at disreputable places.

Fortunately Giotto takes care of all this. He is a monger like us, who built his own Shangri-La and runs it the way any monger would want it. While Giotto is in the business to make money of course, he does so by being an honest proprietor, adviser, and faithful to his clientèle. And he demands the same of all who work for him, so you can enjoy yourself without harassment or fear of being ripped off.

Having PMd Giotto beforehand I was able to coordinate several aspects of the trip, such as how much I should pay for cab fare and how to locate the hotel. I was also assured that as a newcomer there was nothing to worry about; aside from the beautiful ladies that work in his own hotel bar he offered to give me the tour of the local spots. He explained the various types of services and the differences between various parlors and clubs, as well as guidance on where to get a good traditional Thai massage.

The rooms are beautiful, having a mixed feel of a comfortable bungalow and bed and breakfast suite. Everything was designed for us... there are no clocks on the room and the lighting is all setup to create a sexy atmosphere. I got the executive suite which is a very large room with a giant bed, european style linen, and a jacuzzi.

Despite having been awake for two days traveling, I sat down with Giotto after checking in to have a great conversation and an introduction as described above. I also met SexWithSmile who has to be one of the coolest characters I've met in a long while. He is very intelligent and polite, but also a calm and amicable sex maniac who has a clearly intuitive understanding of the way things work. He operates on his own terms but has a smile that clearly has the ladies wrapped around his finger despite being an incorrigible butterfly!

Again, I was very tired but SexWithSmile shamed me into going into the bar, which took very little convincing. The girls are all very nice and not aggressive. Giotto has a very firm rule that girls are not allowed to approach or harass the customers, so you are safe to walk in, sit down, and take everything in. Giotto's wife is the mamasan, so SexWithSmile, sensing that I was wavering had her pick me a girl to sit down and have a drink based on my requirements for a 'sweet and funny' girl.

She picked Jane, a really cute 30 y/o spinner, weighing no more than 90 lbs soaking wet, but not in any way that made her look emaciated. I like small women, and she has a cute smile that just made me feel relaxed. She sat down and I bought her a drink, which was a gin and tonic. I tasted it, and it was indeed a very gin heavy drink, which gave me assurance that she wasn't going to be slurping them down juicy-girl style. Like any place the girls make commissions on the drinks, but I did not feel pressured to buy drink after drink. I also did not feel pressured to bar fine... they know we're there to pick up a girl so they do not pressure you, it is all really above board and comfortable.

I sat and chatted with her for an hour and a half during which she had two drinks, and we had a conversation with broken english and hand gestures. The language barrier was not a problem and we made each other laugh, so I asked her to spend the evening with me. Take note: this is where Giotto's involvement with the process ends; the girl freely negotiates her LT price with you. However, if you ask the typical rate he will tell you, and he always makes sure that you are happy the next day. If the girl tries to play any tricks and leave early, he wants to know about it, and this just did not seem like a problem as these girls all clearly know the rules of the house. Again, Giotto's house is in our favor so there was no need to worry.

I am pretty sure the typical LT goes for 1500-2000B, but I am not interested in too much haggling so long as the price is reasonable and we are both happy. She tried to talk me into 3000B LT, to which I told her I was very tired and would just fall asleep on her, and that I knew 3000B was too much. She told me that her last bf paid her 4000B to which I politely replied that I was not her last bf and that since I was tired I would just see her some other time. So she and I agreed on 2000B for a nice massage and some light touching. Hehe, yeah right.

So we went up to the room to use the jacuzzi, but the water was not too hot because off all the other rooms showering at that same time of night before/after sex. Other hours hot water was good, just at that time the water heater was trying to keep up. Also, you need to prepare the tub at least 20 mins before hand to fill it up, and I did not want to wait. So instead we showered together, where I explored her and she explored me and I had fun lightly smacking her with my happy stick to make her laugh.

She was very shy it seemed though, and always wanted to be covered in her towel when we were not in the shower or in the bed, so I had to make her feel comfortable. I think this may be common with them, but treat them respectfully and make them feel beautiful and they warm up quickly.

So we went to my bed and she gave me a nice light thai massage, during which I touched her and also got some lotion to massage her legs and feet (this amazed her that I did not mind touching her feet, and she enjoyed it very much). Then I started to kiss her, and I must admit I am a very sensual kisser. It was not long before I got her in the mood and we had a marathon sex romp. It takes me a very long time to cum when I wear a condom, but she was very patient and open to trying anything I suggested, from DATY, 60, BBBJ, CG, you name it. I am not an anal guy, so I do not know if that would be a limit for her.

We then cuddled up to go to sleep during which she held my still turgid member like it was a trophy. Then we feel asleep. When we awoke in the morning at 8AM she needed to leave in a couple hours and I still wanted to sleep. She did not want to sleep however, and she help my 'trophy' again while trying to kiss me to wake me up and get me in the mood. So, of course, I had to make her happy and she sucked all the life out of me. She then cuddled me, left, and I slept until 2PM in the afternoon.

I feel utterly spent now, and went for a traditional thai massage (no sex) across the street at Cefle for 300B 2 hours, which was the best massage of my life, and I have dated two professional american masseuses in the past.

So that was my first night and day, and I am definitely having a good time. I am looking forward to going out on a tour with Giotto to sample the rest of Sukhumvit, including Darling, Poseidon, and some clubs. Just tell him what you want and he will tailor the tour.

The internet is free, and there is no time restriction on the included breakfast... I woke up at 2PM my first day and breakfast was served when I came down. While Giotto was not there I had the chance to enjoy a conversation with his wife, who runs the bar and acts as a senior mamasan. Like her husband, she has a great ethic of talking with you to understand what you are looking for to help you find it, as well as just friendly conversation to make you feel welcome.

So, I will follow up with more, but I solidly recommend Livingstones to anyone coming to Bangkok for the first time or experienced local mongers looking for a safe haven to pursue their libidinous interests!

2J

[QUOTE=Too Jaded]...
So we went up to the room to use the jacuzzi, but the water was not too hot because off all the other rooms showering at that same time of night before/after sex.
...
[/QUOTE]Too Jaded,

Thanks for you report. What can I say...

We will check the water heater in your room, you should have warm water all day. (This damned water pressure makes me crazy! Brain666 - HELP!!!)


Giotto

[QUOTE=Giotto]

We will check the water heater in your room, you should have warm water all day. (This damned water pressure makes me crazy! Brain666 - HELP!!!)


Giotto[/QUOTE]

Giotto, no need to apologize. It really was trivial, and as a homeowner I know that no matter how much you do, there is always something more to do!

I have been extremely happy with my stay, for the record.

Too Jaded! Thank you for the compliment, but don't flirt with me, you make me blush:.). But I am happy to hear that you had a good time, and you managed to convince the "little shy" girl to loose herself. Clearly you have your good touch as well. That's the spirit. You wouldn't have wasted your time sleeping under the fallacious pretext that you were tired of a 2 days trip.

Looking forward to meet you next Sunday or Monday. And don't forget Tulip Massage! (PM for details.)

I believe that time is counted for The Evil G.

I saw the 2 ladies who run the place talking to each other at a table in a secret meeting. They are clearly elaborating a cunting (sorry, cunning) plan to get rid of the Evil G.

So if you see tanks rolling in the streets, don't worry. It will be the first phasis to liberate the place and all the poor enslaved girls, and appoint later a new master of the harem.

[QUOTE=SexWithSmile]
So if you see tanks rolling in the streets, don't worry. It will be the first phasis to liberate the place and all the poor enslaved girls, and appoint later a new master of the harem.[/QUOTE]
As Al Haig said after Reagan was shot : " I'm charge here."
Since I am the Vice President, I appoint myself master of the enslaved harem.....
Finally good to be master of something, I have not been a master of my own domain for a while, so this feels good. (old Seinfeld episode)

And in Kramers famous words "I'm out" and slaps his $20 down on the tables as he hurries to his own apartment. (continuation of Seinfeld episode).

Thanks for the posts, I am highly anticipating my trip in March. I will definately be coming by the lodge even if I am not staying there (sorry I only learned about it after my hotel was booked). Cheers all

PIT

I passed through Livingston's one morning last week. Asking about someone who runs the place called Giotto only got me quizzical looks. Turns out Gee-Otto is incorrect pronunciation. Gee-Toe seems to be what's recognized. Anyway he wasn't there at the time.

Breakfast meal was good in terms of taste, portion, and cost but I was hoping to see some evidence of debauchery and wanton sex at this legendary location. I suppose that's a bit much to expect in the morning. I was told to check out the sprts lounge in the evening which I did ... more on that later.

The following image is the only female nudity I uncovered on my visit.

G,

In case I don't get to tell you with all my butterflying around I been doing, you and your staff run a top notch hotel, I gets no static when I roll up with two ladies for the evening, and when theres a problem your people are on it (air conditioner), I only been to Bangkok twice now but as a whole I like the whole city but my place to stay will always be the Livingstone when I'm visiting Bangkok. I see a chain of Livingstones in Thailand a couple of years:)

By the way not doing this for any type of promotional credits, just seen you around a couple of times and our chatt was brief (as I was seeing who should I pick tonight:) and wanted to give you and your Lounge a shout out.

NuffSaid!

[QUOTE=Nuff Said]...
In case I don't get to tell you with all my butterflying around I been doing, you and your staff run a top notch hotel, I gets no static when I roll up with two ladies for the evening, and when theres a problem your people are on it (air conditioner), I only been to Bangkok twice now but as a whole I like the whole city but my place to stay will always be the Livingstone when I'm visiting Bangkok. I see a chain of Livingstones in Thailand a couple of years:)

By the way not doing this for any type of promotional credits, just seen you around a couple of times and our chatt was brief (as I was seeing who should I pick tonight:) and wanted to give you and your Lounge a shout out.
...[/QUOTE]Nuff Said,

Thanks! Nuff Said :) !


Giotto

[QUOTE=Cyberspace]I passed through Livingston's one morning last week. Asking about someone who runs the place called Giotto only got me quizzical looks. Turns out Gee-Otto is incorrect pronunciation. Gee-Toe seems to be what's recognized. Anyway he wasn't there at the time.

Breakfast meal was good in terms of taste, portion, and cost but I was hoping to see some evidence of debauchery and wanton sex at this legendary location. I suppose that's a bit much to expect in the morning. I was told to check out the sprts lounge in the evening which I did ... more on that later.

The following image is the only female nudity I uncovered on my visit.[/QUOTE]

Not sure which time in the morning you showed up. But you might never see such evidence in the morning, as it (depending on time) will happen in the room and in the jacuzzies during the 'morning rounds'.
Probably between 10:00h and 14:00h in the 'morning' you might notice some evidence when some of the happy guys (the ones with a good experience- and a lady who likes long time really long time, respectively where the chemistry was great) will show up with their talents for a joint breakfast.
It's also a good opportunity to benchmark the neighbours talents, respectively his taste to yours.

If you couldn't notify that, it must have been really early in the morning, respectively still nighttime in Mongering counts.

regards

Brain666

[QUOTE=SexWithSmile]...
So if you see tanks rolling in the streets, don't worry. It will be the first phasis to liberate the place and all the poor enslaved girls, and appoint later a new master of the harem.[/QUOTE]SexWithSmile,

I believe the "poor enslaved girls" had a great night last night - many of them went out with their specific "service provider", not many had to sleep lonely...

Did not see anybody suffering...:)


Giotto

Giotto's, you get deceived here. I am of course not talking about the Sports Lounge. This is the public place, with merry girls and happy customers.

I am talking about the Evil G's place - hidden behind a unknown backdoor, a secretive lockroom of which even a partial description would be totally unsuited to the high quality audience of this forum.

I would suspect that this secret place is also responsible for some of your water pressure problems.

Just spent the night with my ex-wife Fon. What a girl. We both had too much to drink, but the morning session cured the hangovers. Just sent her off with a pat on her cute ass. Time to get a couple hours sleep before heading off to Cowboy tonight. Someone has to do it. ;)

[QUOTE=SexWithSmile]Giotto's, you get deceived here. I am of course not talking about the Sports Lounge. This is the public place, with merry girls and happy customers.

I am talking about the Evil G's place - hidden behind a unknown backdoor, a secretive lockroom of which even a partial description would be totally unsuited to the high quality audience of this forum.

I would suspect that this secret place is also responsible for some of your water pressure problems.[/QUOTE]SexWithSmile,

You broke my trust! We agreed not to talk about that "room" in the forum.


Giotto

Actually I did come back to the Sports Lounge later in the evening. Still found no female nudity beyond the bronze statue at the pool. An attractive non-nude barmaid was dancing and a number of smiling others were serving drinks. I played a couple rounds of pool with one girl (pictured below) but passed on buying the suggested barfine, latenight disco and dinner. Pardon me but it was getting late and I had other activities lined up for the morning. It was tempting though.

[QUOTE=Brain666]Not sure which time in the morning you showed up. But you might never see such evidence in the morning, as it (depending on time) will happen in the room and in the jacuzzies during the 'morning rounds'.
Probably between 10:00h and 14:00h in the 'morning' you might notice some evidence when some of the happy guys (the ones with a good experience- and a lady who likes long time really long time, respectively where the chemistry was great) will show up with their talents for a joint breakfast.
It's also a good opportunity to benchmark the neighbours talents, respectively his taste to yours.

If you couldn't notify that, it must have been really early in the morning, respectively still nighttime in Mongering counts.

regards

Brain666[/QUOTE]


[size=-2][b][u]GIOTTO'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [red]I removed a picture from this report, showing our girls in the bar.[/red][/size]

[QUOTE=Cyberspace]Actually I did come back to the Sports Lounge later in the evening. Still found no female nudity beyond the bronze statue at the pool. An attractive non-nude barmaid was dancing and a number of smiling others were serving drinks. I played a couple rounds of pool with one girl (pictured below) but passed on buying the suggested barfine, latenight disco and dinner. Pardon me but it was getting late and I had other activities lined up for the morning. It was tempting though.
[/QUOTE]Cyberspace,

You will never find "female nudity" in Livingstone's, we are strictly following Thai law. It is also not that kind of bar we want - the Sports Lounge is a Hostess bar with ladies entertaining gentlemen, and not a Gogo- or Beer Bar.

Everything which has something to do with female nudity can happen in the rooms or the customers apartments - behind closed doors.


Giotto

[QUOTE=Giotto]Cyberspace,

You will never find "female nudity" in Livingstone's, we are strictly following Thai law. It is also not that kind of bar we want - the Sports Lounge is a Hostess bar with ladies entertaining gentlemen, and not a Gogo- or Beer Bar.

Everything which has something to do with female nudity can happen in the rooms or the customers apartments - behind closed doors.

Giotto[/QUOTE]I agree. There are times when you find civilized pleasure in behaving yourself, sipping a nice wine and chatting with charming and decently sexy dressed gentleladies and I go to Livingstones; and there are times when you find decadent pleasure at Club Boesche, and banging nude showgirls on the bar, totally oblivious of the neighbours - and for that I go to Pattaya (see my post).

Now I must say from my limited experience that the girls at Livingstones have more sexual experience than the run-of-the-mill gogo-girls.

So favor Giotto managed to ensure that I am confused about my personality at Livingstones, and I am sure that he will from now double his attention to my behaviour.

PS: if you want nudity, check the webcams aimed at Piper's room.

finally managed to get to bangkok weekend before last, had my week in paradise and now back to reality. spent many days/weeks reading the forum for the necessary hints and tips and without the knowledge gained from the many contributors the visit would probably have been much less of a success.

arrived bkk around 15:45, in taxi 16:30, at lodge 17:15. damage 275 baht. as previously posted by people, declined the many offers of taxis and limos from the people swarming around the arrivals area and went downstairs to outside the departures level. there are a couple of desks where you queue up and the people on the desks ask where you’re going, fill in a chit in thai for the driver and flag down your taxi. missed the lodge on first pass down soi 33, driver went back down soi in opposite direction and spotted it straight away.

painless check-in and shown to one of the new rooms. very impressed with lay-out, décor and standard of workmanship. giotto’s pain in getting the rooms completed has borne fruit.

after a small sleep i decided to test out some of the recommendations from giotto’s bangkok “massage parlors/places in the sukhumvit area”. since akane was in soi 33, off we go. followed directions, out the lodge – turn left – look for the peep inn hotel and somehow managed to walk straight past the huge red sign for the peep inn. turned round and back down soi 33 and there’s the sign – how the hell did i miss it. see a sign for akane but don’t see the place. there are stairs straight in front of you going up to some commercial units so has a look up there – nope. looks down into the car park area and see some girls in uniforms so head down there – bingo. go inside and offered the menu. select the 90 minute p3s fashion massage – one girl initially followed by second girl after 60 mins with special lip service. line up follows of about 12 girls and for me there was only one looker so chose her. can’t remember her name but she looks like ayumi on their website. upstairs into room, undressed and towel round waist. girl disappears and comes back minus her uniform but wearing a black shorts/vest combo. room is small – massage table pretty much fills it – and the walls do not go all the way to the roof. i can’t hear anybody else so guess i was the only customer at this time.

lead out of room across corridor to shower room. towel off, soaped up, rinsed and then asked to sit down on a funny shaped plastic stool that has a deep channel in the seat pan. more soaping up and washing. still hadn’t worked out why the stool is the funny shape until i feel a hand underneath me and some serious washing of where the sun doesn’t normally shine followed by a finger doing a quick internal. interesting. through all this the girl is still dressed in the black thing. towelled down then back to the room for the massage. bit worried that the girl had been clothed all the time so far but as soon as back in the room off comes her kit and what a fantastic body was revealed, really smoking hot. an hour’s massage follows with some attempts at conversation on both sides. massage is quite light and very relaxing. after the hour second girl joins us and again cannot remember her name. best analogy for the situation now is that the specialist team has been called on like in american football and the new girl is the blow job specialist. bit of laughing and joking with new girl and she goes to work downstairs whilst original girl starts giving a body slide massage across my chest. she also allows a bit of breast massage in return and fiddling with her pussy. seriously distracted to what is going on now, bit of sensory overload. downstairs girl asks something and i grunt a reply. next thing i know is that the internal examination is happening again! all the above continues for a small while (thank god for the condom reducing sensitivity a bit) and needless to say a happy ending is the result. shower, dressed, downstairs, pay bill (1,650 baht and 300 tip for the girl) and back to the lodge feeling very good about life.

later, went down to check out the sports bar, really, just to check it out and have a beer. session in akane plus feeling tired from work then flight didn’t have me thinking of finding a girl for the night. greeted at bar by mamasan who finds me a seat where i could see what was happening and watch the football on one of the screens. offered company and declined saying i was just checking things out. she came back every so often to make sure i was okay, just really friendly, no hard sell.

after a while a girl was passing and she asks me something. looking round to speak to her resulted in one of those wow moments – i’m now looking into the eyes of a smiling, drop dead gorgeous girl. anyway, we get chatting and she is great fun as well as gorgeous so all intentions of a quiet first night go out the window.

i’m not going to go into anymore about this girl because i ended up spending quite a bit of time with her over the next few days and she is special. i’ll be returning to the lodge sometime and will be looking to spend more time with her so i’m not going to risk spoiling that.

she left about 11am next day and i managed to stagger downstairs around 2pm for a breakfast by the pool in the sunshine. life is not so bad.

[size=-2][b][u]editor's note[/u]:[/b] [blue]i certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the reports of distinction thread. please [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?]click here[/url] for more information.[/blue][/size]

[QUOTE=SexWithSmile] PS: if you want nudity, check the webcams aimed at Piper's room.[/QUOTE]No chance! My girl found the hidden cam last night and decided it would look good with a black condom over it. ;)

Well, I stumbled across a little gem last night. The night started with Giotto, Too Jaded and I cruising Soi Cowboy. We checked out a few bars. One bar had a couple of naked girls on stage doing unusual things with candles, bottles, bananas pipe-darts and balloons. Slightly interesting, but not a turn-on by any means. Plus, I was still hungover and bushed from mixing drinks and shagging all the night before, and was considering going home for an early night alone. But being my last night in BKK, that would be sacrilege.

We ended up at Suzy Wong's (I think), where again there were several naked girls on stage showing off their acrobatic skills, then doing a choreographed but realistic lesbian show. Now things were heating up. Two girls in particular stood out. One small energetic girl with a manic scary stare, and a taller sultry girl with wild hair - in the dark she was a little African looking, so my interest was piqued. I called her over to sit with me, bought her a drink, and chatted a few minutes. Up close and personal she didn't quite make the grade, and didn't pass the hard-on test. Politely bid her farewell, and we all headed back for the Lodge.

Back in the Sports Bar, I tried chatting up a cute young gal, but her English was almost non-existent. I managed to communicate that I wanted a good stong massage (I meant back in the room), but she started giving me a massage as I sat in the bar. Things didn't work out for a barfine with her, so I ended up barfining her friend, another new girl I hadn't seen before.

Cut a long story short: back in the room she was wet and aimed to please. A full hour stong oil massage last night before we started any action. A passionate wet kisser (first taste was as soon as we got in the room), and sometime during the night, she tried for anal. Despite my long slow efforts, it just wasn't going to happen, so we gave up on the idea.

This morning, another full oily massage - well over an hour, while she sang sweet Thai songs - I was putty in her hands. She does some great tongue-massage also - naughty girl! Finished with some cowgirl and mish-posish.

She wouldn't leave this morning until I eventually had to tell her I had to shower and get ready for the airport. She's full of beans and giggles a lot. Good fun. Great kissing, great professional massage, great sex. I leave BKK a spent but happy man.

[QUOTE=SexWithSmile]I agree. There are times when you find civilized pleasure in behaving yourself ...
[/QUOTE]SexWithSmile,

I don't really get that. Do you want to tell us that it is POSSIBLE for you to behave? Please, show us, show us!!!


Giotto

[QUOTE=Giotto]SexWithSmile,

I don't really get that. Do you want to tell us that it is POSSIBLE for you to behave? Please, show us, show us!

Giotto[/QUOTE]A challenge? See you tonight, but I believe that last week, I behaved very civilized.

[QUOTE=Sonic Bam]...
I’m not going to go into anymore about this girl because I ended up spending quite a bit of time with her over the next few days and she is special. I’ll be returning to the Lodge sometime and will be looking to spend more time with her so I’m not going to risk spoiling that.
...
[/QUOTE]Sonic Bam,

Thanks for your report, much appreciated.

But - you are showing early signals of "Thailand fever!". Please contact Dr. Giotto for immediate consultancy :) !

No, now serious, please contact me. We should talk about that special lady, that I can tell you what I know. Always better to have as much information as possible.


Giotto

Giotto
Stayed at your premises last August, and enjoyed my time immensely. Totally non-obtrusive.. So have spent the past few days dithering about whether to do Pattaya, Bangkok, or PI this early Feb. Now a definate, conclusive no-turning back decision: Livingstone's.

Now need to buy a plane ticket... In your opinion any views on the cheapest business class ticket, from Europe, say London or Paris?

TIA
Daring Mood

[QUOTE=Daring Mood]...
Now need to buy a plane ticket... In your opinion any views on the cheapest business class ticket, from Europe, say London or Paris?
[/QUOTE]Daring Mood,

glad to hear that you will stay at Livingstone's.

To be honest - I have no idea about the cheapest business class ticket, I always fly Lufthansa to Germany. But try the new Arabian airlines with stops in AD or Dubai, they offer good rates as I know.

C U soon.


Giotto

[QUOTE=Daring Mood]
Now need to buy a plane ticket... In your opinion any views on the cheapest business class ticket, from Europe, say London or Paris?
Daring Mood[/QUOTE]

If you're in the UK call trailfinders. They've always been one of the best independant travel companies. I've flown too and from Asia plenty of times and they always come up trumps.

A few weeks ago I wrote a report about my disappointment, about a very unpleasant event. I think I should also write what I feel today.

Things are starting to work, and I cannot talk about details. But my friends will know what I want to say.

I am optimistic now, though I cannot understand completely WHY it is starting to work. After weeks of conflicts, no sleep, heading from here to there to calm participants down - I was yesterday sent from A to B because A told me that I was needed by B... I don't think that anybody out there will ever understand what this means.

I am so unbelievable happy today. And I know that nobody out there can imagine what I have learned during the past few weeks.

I think I will stay for a while here in Thailand - let's say the next 100 - 200 years, that should be enough then :) !


Giotto

Dear readers. Giotto might write a lot here, but there's a lot happening that he doesn't write about.

I don't know how you do it Old Man. ;) An "A" and the occasional "B" is enough for me.

Good to read you're planning UAE lay-overs in future. I'll return the hospitality when you're in Dubai. Which reminds me - 1Ball will be in Dubai again next week, so I think I'll leave town. Do you have a spare room?

[QUOTE=Giotto]<...>I am so unbelievable happy today. And I know that nobody out there can imagine what I have learned during the past few weeks.
Giotto[/QUOTE]
Dr. G, glad to hear things are working out. It sounded pretty grim there for a while.
[QUOTE=Giotto]
I think I will stay for a while here in Thailand - let's say the next 100 - 200 years, that should be enough then :) !
[/QUOTE]
I don't doubt you'll figure out a way to live that long! :)

Cheers,
-Y, freezing his arse off in London nowadays

[QUOTE=Piper1]No chance! My girl found the hidden cam last night and decided it would look good with a black condom over it. ;)
...
I leave BKK a spent but happy man.[/QUOTE]Pipeman,

You are getting old.

2 nights at the Lodge, no Island Girl (divorce), no Jungle Girl (divorce), not enough power for Ms. Nympho (divorce), no threesome, conventional hunting in the Sports Lounge, MASSAGE ??? (what the hell is that???) ... and ... NO MOVIES FOR US ?

You did not even forget the usual 50 condoms in your room when you left. You work too much, you need a rest.


Giotto

Giotto asked me to well-behave last night, so I had to oblige.

I found that my supposedly good friend Too Jaded took the opportunity of my sabbatic trip to Pattaya to steal my dedicated fiancee, therefore I had to find someone else - and tell me why, the only night that I am free and not tired, all the girls from the Sport Lounge whom I have successfully experienced, or want to experience, are already taken?

So there I am left, having an interesting conversation with the newly happy Giotto. Thinking about my misery and the ungratitude of my fellow partners, I am looking for new potentials. One girl caught my eye, she is sweet and quite beautiful, and well-behaved. So one drink, a farewell to the stable owner leaving him to the self-satisfaction of the success of his scheme, and on to the room.

She was sweet, left me take the shower, then took the shower herself, and came to the bed being cold, wrapped herself under the blanket, invited me to join her, let me kissing her, she plays with my erecting organ, started moaning, I take the latex, we pour some lube, we start the penetration, she moans more, and ....

....SSSTTTTTOOOOOOOPPPPPPPPPP.....

This is not right. She is acting there, following her agenda of a good professional. I don't want to follow her rules and come in 5 minutes. So unconscienciously, I take the rest position.

Foreplay is important. Touching, kissing. I take my time. Her pussy is yummy, I start to kiss it. She seems to like it, and want the FS again.

Again STOP, this is too early. She may feel frustrated, so we try to sleep. But I start again the foreplay. Long time touching her.

Aahhh, I notice a change now. Her moaning sound more sincere. She plays with my organ, and I finger her. This time, I do feel the genuine pulsations and lubrication. It sounds so appealing, but we play a dangerous game here, so by a well-disciplined self-control, I reach latex again and there we go. Then the revelation came: she suddendly jumps on top of me, moves frenetically, and she had a nice, although silent, orgasm. She recovers, gets very tickled, and is exhausted. I did not come, I guess mostly due to my debauchry of last weekend in Pattaya, so I join her quietly.
In the morning, I started the same foreplay: long sucking of her small tit, which starts to strenghten. She moves my mouth towards her pussy, and ... did she have an orgasm? I don't know, I feel a sudden, albeit relatively small, surge of liquid under my tongue. A good FS, and this time I reached climax. It was worth waiting.

Time to say goodbye - this one did not give me a discount, so I paid a higher price, still reasonable compared to the service and beauty. We kiss, she asked me when I shall be back, and I smile that I am a butterfly. We are the P4P damned, enjoying our illusions.

So conclusion:

I behaved, it was a romantic night with a beautiful girl;

If I check value for money against a good threesome: threesome is 1.4 x more expensive than that girl, 2 girls of a 6 beauty scale = 12, still exceeding her 8 beauty level.

I still prefer the excitement of a threesome.

No matter all the romance, the problem when you have a latex is that the tightness of the pussy is of great importance, and that girl was of a regular size.

So after romance, I shall go back to debauchry. Sorry, Mr Giotto.

Sick, sick, sick.

[QUOTE=Daring Mood]Giotto,

Stayed at your premises last August, and enjoyed my time immensely. Totally non-obtrusive.. So have spent the past few days dithering about whether to do Pattaya, Bangkok, or PI this early Feb. Now a definate, conclusive no-turning back decision: Livingstone's.

Now need to buy a plane ticket... In your opinion any views on the cheapest business class ticket, from Europe, say London or Paris?

TIA
Daring Mood[/QUOTE]Go Etihad. From LGW, LHR or MAN via Abu Dhabi. Great business class, full flat bed, About £1300 should do it. I used [url]www.ofstravel.com[/url]

[QUOTE=SexWithSmile]A challenge? See you tonight, but I believe that last week, I behaved very civilized.[/QUOTE]SexWithSmile,

correct, that week when you were not here, everybody behaved quite well!


Giotto

BTW, Bestards: Compared to this guy all of you are virgins :) .

[QUOTE=Giotto]Pipeman,

You are getting old.

2 nights at the Lodge, no Island Girl (divorce), no Jungle Girl (divorce), not enough power for Ms. Nympho (divorce), no threesome, conventional hunting in the Sports Lounge, MASSAGE ??? (what the hell is that???) ... and ... NO MOVIES FOR US ?

You did not even forget the usual 50 condoms in your room when you left. You work too much, you need a rest.


Giotto[/QUOTE]I know! I'm ashamed of myself. I've taken your advice and cancelled all meetings today - staying home to recover. :)

[QUOTE=Piper1]...I don't know how you do it Old Man. ;) An "A" and the occasional "B" is enough for me.
...
[/QUOTE]Pipeman,

Do I read something like "Old Man" ? BESTARD!

I think it is really better when I NOT get too old soon, otherwise I will definitely have a problem ... no, two problems :) .


Giotto

[QUOTE=Giotto]A few weeks ago I wrote a report about my disappointment, about a very unpleasant event. I think I should also write what I feel today.

Things are starting to work, and I cannot talk about details. But my friends will know what I want to say.

I am optimistic now, though I cannot understand completely WHY it is starting to work. After weeks of conflicts, no sleep, heading from here to there to calm participants down - I was yesterday sent from A to B because A told me that I was needed by B... I don't think that anybody out there will ever understand what this means.

I am so unbelievable happy today. And I know that nobody out there can imagine what I have learned during the past few weeks.

Giotto[/QUOTE]

Somebody who followed this thread and can count 'A' and 'B' together can imagine. It's not that difficult! Congratulations, but better wait if it is a solid trend not just a peak.

regards

Brain666

[QUOTE=Brain666]...
It's not that difficult!
...[/QUOTE]Brain666,

It is extremely difficult, believe me.


Giotto

The Sports Lounge is changing. We have a new Mamasan, a very professionally acting woman who is taking care of all girls related issues.

Since she started to work in the Sports Lounge 2 weeks ago the atmosphere is clearly changing. She talks to all incoming customers first, and stops by from time to time, to check out whether all the needs of the customers are recognized by the bar staff. She tries to propose the right ladies for the customers who are looking for companionship.

She is really good. Hope she stays long. But usually these professional Mamasans are reorganizing hostess bars, and when everything works they get bored and look for the next bar to set up.

The number of girls is rising, and the quality too. The feedback I get from customers is better than ever before. There are not too many really stunning girls in the bar, may be 3 or 4. But all girls are now working service oriented - they found out that they can make much more money if the customer is happy and returns.

Good for them, good for the customers, good for the bar. Everybody wins.


Giotto

[QUOTE=Giotto]The Sports Lounge is changing. We have a new Mamasan, a very professionally acting woman who is taking care of all girls related issues.

....
She is really good. Hope she stays long. But usually these professional Mamasans are reorganizing hostess bars, and when everything works they get bored and look for the next bar to set up.

[/QUOTE]

Good ho hear and for sure I will check, validate and report myself.

My next trip however (in Feb.) is with my wife and as my name is not PIPER (did he ever bring her?) I will not show up. She will check it immediately. So I will refrain from any constructed escapes unless we really follow different schedules (we meet with some Thai friends). However I will come back by my own later in spring/ summer.

BTW, where did the previous mamasan escape. Quit or different opinion with Ms Giotto. I was ok with her and I have some nice pictures from her as well.

regards

Brain666

[QUOTE=Giotto]The Sports Lounge is changing. We have a new Mamasan, a very professionally acting woman who is taking care of all girls related issues.

The number of girls is rising, and the quality too. But all girls are now working service oriented - they found out that they can make much more money if the customer is happy and returns.

Good for them, good for the customers, good for the bar. Everybody wins.

Giotto[/QUOTE]

Service is the key. After the first round, they all look the same :D

[QUOTE=Traveler1234]Service is the key. After the first round, they all look the same :D[/QUOTE]
Since you don't drink alcohol anymore, I want to know what the hell you're puttin' your tea! :)

-Y

[QUOTE=Yi Ren]Since you don't drink alcohol anymore, I want to know what the hell you're puttin' your tea! :)

-Y[/QUOTE]

Since you're now been sent to the outposts, I'll have to take one for the team next time to giotto's and barfine the persistent one for you (or is it the pesky one, damn, can't keep them straight) :D

This report is a few month late. It reflects my thoughts on my 5 day stay at the Lodge in Oct 06. It was my first stay there.

I stayed in the Junior Suite, which is very nice and large, but IMO, not value priced. Would choose a smaller, lesser priced room next time.

Pros: Fantastic wireless, aircon, bathroom, super comfortable bed/sheets, quiet, private like retreat, nice staff, great ready-to-cook breakfast (girls bf is not free).

Cons: Sports bar just OK, older clientele (even though I'm 49), girls just average, a couple of spinners but they were stand-offish. Many girls simply sat there. (they need to learn how to work it)

Other Observations

- Guido is very nice and even comped myself and 2 clients of mine with a shot of liquor. Never met Giotto, but felt it would have been a nice touch for him to smile & say hi. He was always in a hurry.

- Majestic Grande used to be my favorite, but the LL has moved to the #1 spot.

- Sports Bar is small and the available talent was average, at best. I had my most fun bringing outside girls into the Sports Bar and then proceeding to the room.

- It would've been nice if there was someway to meet the other board members that may have been staying there.

- No shower curtain in the shower? Not sure why this is, but it did make it messy in the bathroom when I showered, particularly with a TG.

I plan to visit again in March '07 and Oct '07.

[size=-2][b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?]Click Here[/url] for more information.[/blue][/size]

[QUOTE=Omar78]I stayed in the Junior Suite, which is very nice and large, but IMO, not value priced. Would choose a smaller, lesser priced room next time.[/QUOTE]IMHO, it is well value priced taking into consideration G's promotions - especially when my company pays for the rooms, and I get the discount...

[QUOTE=Omar78] Cons: Sports bar just OK, older clientele (even though I'm 49), girls just average, a couple of spinners but they were stand-offish. Many girls simply sat there. (they need to learn how to work it) [/QUOTE]I would disagree here - I have found and tried some good ones here. Looking strictly at value-for-money, it is a good and secure place.

[QUOTE=Omar78]Guido is very nice and even comped myself and 2 clients of mine with a shot of liquor. Never met Giotto, but felt it would have been a nice touch for him to smile & say hi. He was always in a hurry.[/QUOTE]IMHO, every customer needs to make the first step: PM, make a post while you are staying. I am a long-standing customer, but it did not take long for Guiotto to contact me after my first post. Same if you want to meet other board members: we'll do it with pleasure if we know you are there. So next time maybe: we have experiences to share, this is the purpose of this forum.

Cheers

[QUOTE=Yi Ren]...
-Y, freezing his arse off in London nowadays[/QUOTE]Yi Ren,

London - [b][size=+4]LOL![/size][/b].

I feel with you - but I am laughing my arse of nowdays!



Giotto

Omar78,

Thanks for you report. And thank you very much for staying with us here in Livingstone's Lodge.

Some remarks:

[QUOTE=Omar78]...I stayed in the Junior Suite, which is very nice and large, but IMO, not value priced. Would choose a smaller, lesser priced room next time.
[/QUOTE]Difficult to find the right price policy for everybody. Is a bigger room a Junior Suite, if it does not have a Jacuzzi?

The rooms are built into a previously built residence of a rich Thai.

We also have the 9 new rooms now, 3 of them have DOUBLE JACUZZI's. We defined them to be Junior Suites - though they are a bit too small for that.

As I said - difficult to do it right for everybody.

[QUOTE=Omar78]...Cons: Sports bar just OK, older clientele (even though I'm 49), girls just average, a couple of spinners but they were stand-offish. Many girls simply sat there. (they need to learn how to work it)[/QUOTE]I basically agree, and that was the reason to get the professional mamasan in. You should see the Sports Lounge now...you would be impressed.

[QUOTE=Omar78]Never met Giotto, but felt it would have been a nice touch for him to smile & say hi. He was always in a hurry.[/QUOTE]Sorry - difficult for me to get the connection between a guests name and an ISG handle if you don't send a PM or even contact me directly...I really appreciate all ISG members here and establish contact between them.

[QUOTE=Omar78]I plan to visit again in March '07 and Oct '07.[/QUOTE]Thanks, that sounds good. Please make sure that you contact me this time - ON ARRIVAL. That's an order!


Giotto

ISG Members:

If you visit the Lodge and want to contact Giotto, please talk to the service staff or the frontdesk of the hotel and ask for [b]"the boss"[/b]!

[b][red]DO NOT ASK FOR GIOTTO![/red][/b] There is no Giotto at Livingstone's.

And (I think it is not necessary to mention this, but may be I better do): [red][b]Do not talk to the girls about Giotto and the ISG![/red][/b]

Thanks.


Giotto

The good news of the day:

The company who will install the new water system soon, did some minor modifications of the old one. And - suddenly [b]the pressure is higher and more stable.[/b]

I do have no idea what they did, because it they showed up today at 9 am - that is something like midnight for me. But anyway - a good step forward.


Giotto

[QUOTE=Giotto]The Sports Lounge is changing. We have a new Mamasan, a very professionally acting woman who is taking care of all girls related issues.

Since she started to work in the Sports Lounge 2 weeks ago the atmosphere is clearly changing. She talks to all incoming customers first, and stops by from time to time, to check out whether all the needs of the customers are recognized by the bar staff. She tries to propose the right ladies for the customers who are looking for companionship.

Giotto[/QUOTE]She did not come back to me yet. It looks like she tries to avoid me? Snif snif.

[QUOTE=Giotto]The good news of the day:

The company who will install the new water system soon, did some minor modifications of the old one. And - suddenly [b]the pressure is higher and more stable.[/b]

I do have no idea what they did, because it they showed up today at 9 am - that is something like midnight for me. But anyway - a good step forward.


Giotto[/QUOTE]
They opened up the inlet valve, perhaps?

Tried to send you a PM, but no dice. Here's the message:

1. Giotto has exceeded their stored private messages quota and can not accept further messages until they clear some space.

Let me know when you clean up the mailbox. Will be in BKK Jan31-Feb 3.

See you then. Let me know if you need any supplies :)

Duni

[QUOTE=Duniawala]They opened up the inlet valve, perhaps?

Tried to send you a PM, but no dice. Here's the message:

1. Giotto has exceeded their stored private messages quota and can not accept further messages until they clear some space.

Let me know when you clean up the mailbox. Will be in BKK Jan31-Feb 3.

See you then. Let me know if you need any supplies :)
...
[/QUOTE]Sir,

Good to hear that you come back. Much appreciated, a lot of new quality must be checked :) !

Don't talk to me about valves, how shall I know? ... What I know is that we have a more stable system in the moment, and that I can sleep better now, until we get this new system.

Supply: Yes, Yes, Yes, I have to work hard in the moment, and so do many guests :) ...


Giotto

G,
it appears Duni and I will be there at the same time. Prep the girls wud ya.

[QUOTE=1Ball]G,
it appears Duni and I will be there at the same time. Prep the girls wud ya.[/QUOTE]Mr. Vice President,

They are always prepared... :) . But if I read your Bali reports I think we must get some more nymphos in.

Sir,

would you please prepare a test questionaire for Mr. Vice President, he can then assist you with the quality control measures.


Giotto

[QUOTE=SexWithSmile]She did not come back to me yet. It looks like she tries to avoid me? Snif snif.[/QUOTE]SexWithSmile,

She knows, that you don't need any help ... you are our Papasan :) .


Giotto

[QUOTE=SexWithSmile]
I found that my supposedly good friend Too Jaded took the opportunity of my sabbatic trip to Pattaya to steal my dedicated fiancee, therefore I had to find someone else [/QUOTE]

SexWithSmile,

How do you know that it was not SHE who took advantage of your sabbatical to take advantage of ME?

Really, bro, I had no desire to steal your fiancee, I thought you were through with that one. If she ever recovers from the bottoming out I gave her you are welcome to cock-block her back from me!!!!

Cheers,

2J

[QUOTE=Traveler1234]Since you're now been sent to the outposts, I'll have to take one for the team next time to giotto's and barfine the persistent one for you (or is it the pesky one, damn, can't keep them straight) :D[/QUOTE]
No matter - you'll have fun with either one. :)

-Y, back to living out of hotels again - damn, I miss BKK.

[QUOTE=Too Jaded]SexWithSmile,

How do you know that it was not SHE who took advantage of your sabbatical to take advantage of ME?

2J[/QUOTE]Because she is a poor innocent girl, who want to found a family, she had complete trust in me as I respected her needs, and you took advantage of it to satisfy your degenerated sodomical instincts. Shame on you.

Actually, thanks - I've been able to be free again.

Cheers

[QUOTE=Yi Ren]... - damn, I miss BKK.[/QUOTE]Yi Ren,

Sorry to hear that - we will have some drinks on you, with the Vice President and the TQM director, and all others who stay at the lodge in the moment. We will also invite some girls to join us...

We will think about you sitting in your hotel room in cold and rainy London...

I hope that helps you to smile again :) ...


Giotto

G, I think we should get his phone number, so we can call him directly from the sports lounge. we can have some girls call out his name, as we drunkenly play pool, while they rub up against us. That way, I think it will make him feel close to the love.
Maybe even email a "live" pic of Fon dancing.

Hehe. see you Bestards thursday, though I have been courting a nice honest sweet Thai girl online for a few weeks, and have dinner plans with her. Not going to repeat Thor's mistake of bringing in a nice Thai girl to your den of iniquity, so I will be back by midnight, after I have put her in a taxi, and (again, but to another) pleadged eternal love to her.

Of course, she might see right through me, and be gone in 5 minutes, which of course, would devastate me.......

Didn't make it to Bangkok last winter so I have not had the honor of making a fool of myself at the Sports Bar but will be in town next week and will certainly try to catch up.

After following the forum for some time I think I will enjoy the opportunity to put a face to the names and maybe even my face to something besides a name. If the quality is picking up the way Giotto describes it it should be superb.

The temp up here was down to -49 F so I think it is time to move closer to the equator.

G,
Still here. Definatley my last night tonight. I must go back some time. Anyway, should see you later tonight if your around.
Sid

Ps, By far the best beds I have slept in for a very long time. Worth every baht!!

[QUOTE=Giotto]ISG Members:

If you visit the Lodge and want to contact Giotto, please talk to the service staff or the frontdesk of the hotel and ask for [b]"the boss"[/b]!

[b][red]DO NOT ASK FOR GIOTTO![/red][/b] There is no Giotto at Livingstone's.

And (I think it is not necessary to mention this, but may be I better do): [red][b]Do not talk to the girls about Giotto and the ISG![/red][/b]

Thanks.

Giotto[/QUOTE]Hi Giotto!

Will stopover in BKK on 27.01.07 on my way to B´desh, and will visit the Lodge the first time.

Hope, THE BOSS is available for a short drink.

the reason we all end up in LOS!

[QUOTE=AncientFornicatr]...
The temp up here was down to -49 F so I think it is time to move closer to the equator.[/QUOTE]AncientFornicatr,

It is never to late. And it is warmer here...:) !


Giotto

[QUOTE=SidTheSexist]G,
Still here. Definatley my last night tonight. I must go back some time. Anyway, should see you later tonight if your around.
Sid

Ps, By far the best beds I have slept in for a very long time. Worth every baht!![/QUOTE]SidTheSexist,

Thanks for staying here. Was fun to have you with us. Good luck for your new plans - and come back soon.


Giotto

BTW: What did you do in those beds :) ?

[QUOTE=1Ball]Hehe. see you Bestards thursday, though I have been courting a nice honest sweet Thai girl online for a few weeks, and have dinner plans with her. Not going to repeat Thor's mistake of bringing in a nice Thai girl to your den of iniquity, so I will be back by midnight, after I have put her in a taxi, and (again, but to another) pleadged eternal love to her.

Of course, she might see right through me, and be gone in 5 minutes, which of course, would devastate me.......[/QUOTE]

Well, we already know what the verdict will be, but go for it anyway. I do hope you realize you are really playing with fire though. You pledge eternal love to her, she may be hard to get rid of. You are a fine catch in her eyes.

My best advice to you on the online girl, is to never, never, never suggest or imply in any way that you have ever done anything in Thailand that involves P4P. My experience is that if they find out you have played around they will always be suspicious of you. You also best tell her that you are staying elsewhere. There is no way you can get her into Livingstones at night and not expose yourself to a thousand questions.

So just what do you do with her, if she succumbs to your charms. You can't take her to a shorttime hotel. And Livingstones would be a problem with many girls. Hope she has an apartment to take you to.

Hi guys coming to Bangkok in March. Ive scrolled through quite a few pages but cant seem to find any mention of the room rates. Also, do the rooms have reliable wifi access? There is also no mention of these matters on the Livingstones website. Someone please fill me in. Cheers.

[QUOTE=Plugger]Hi guys coming to Bangkok in March. Ive scrolled through quite a few pages but cant seem to find any mention of the room rates. Also, do the rooms have reliable wifi access? There is also no mention of these matters on the Livingstones website. Someone please fill me in. Cheers.[/QUOTE]
Try the under General Info thread:[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=541773&postcount=12[/url]

WiFi is all rooms. After you go through, feel free to pm or ask additional questions.

Marketing Director
Livingstone's Lodge

[quote=thor93]
so just what do you do with her, if she succumbs to your charms. you can't take her to a shorttime hotel. and livingstones would be a problem with many girls. hope she has an apartment to take you to.[/quote]
thanks thor, good advice, i can't say i can imagine her in the sports lounge, in her silk dress, or business suit, knocking back shots, slamming the 8 ball. she has already made it abundantly clear we are meeting for dinner, drinks, and conversation. so i am not worried about my first night at the lodge. besides, i want be able to come back and drink giotto's wine. as vp of the place, i drink for free. marketing directors, and tqms do not.

when i get back from the middle east, however, is a different story. if she does in fact succumb to my charms, and i feel this whole thing is worth it, then i have to find another place, maybe the peep in? i can come over and say hello to g during the day, if he gets up before 5.00 pm that is.

[QUOTE=1Ball] As VP of the place, I drink for free. Marketing Directors, and TQMs do not.
[/QUOTE]

I was always taught: no such thing as a free lunch (or drink) :D

[QUOTE=1Ball]As VP of the place, I drink for free. Marketing Directors, and TQMs do not.[/QUOTE]
Please cancel my reservations. I cannot stay at a place where there is a discrimination of officers of the Bestards.

[QUOTE=SexWithSmile]Because she is a poor innocent girl, who want to found a family, she had complete trust in me as I respected her needs, and you took advantage of it to satisfy your degenerated sodomical instincts. Shame on you.

Actually, thanks - I've been able to be free again.

Cheers[/QUOTE]

I am her daddy, and all the family she needs. And I did not sodomize her.

...[b]yet![/b]

You may have respected her needs, but [b]I[/b] was the one who was able to meet those needs, ...and then some. Booyah!

Cheers, bro!

2J

[QUOTE=Too Jaded]I am her daddy, and all the family she needs. ..... [b]I[/b] was the one who was able to meet those needs.

2J[/QUOTE]Thank you for the good news. I will announce her right away that you want to found a family with her, and meet all her needs. When is the wedding date? I am so excited.

[QUOTE=1Ball]...
As VP of the place, I drink for free. Marketing Directors, and TQMs do not.
[/QUOTE]Mr. Vice President,

Glad that you noticed that we always served water for free. But obviously you did not realize that we double charged all other drinks :) .


Giotto

1Ball,

Good luck in your endeavor with the non-P4P girl. If you do end up doing well with her, don't think she is likely to give you a lot of free time, especially if she is even slightly suspicious you might be a butterfly. Of course, why would she ever think that? Once again my advice remains to not give her any hint of your other life in Bangkok.

In my situation with my TGF, my only free time is when she is in class during the day and even then I can expect regular phone calls checking up on me, but then remember I was caught cold and am now on a short leash while in Bangkok. And the phone calls only increase if you don't answer. I remember one time being in a short time hotel and that damn phone just kept ringing and ringing. I finally turned it off, but that was an even worse mistake. When she saw me again, it was a true interrogation.

I was just there this past weekend and wanted to get down to the Lodge to see Giotto, but everytime I suggested we go down, I got the thousand questions about who I really wanted to see down there. I am just amazed at how possessive and jealous thai women can get. I have had lots of TGF's over the years and it really seems to be a very common trait for many of them.

Some people may wonder why put up with it and as we know, for a time I broke the bonds, but found out the good outweighs the bad. A good TGF can really make your day. When the GFE is real, it beats anything you get in P4P.

[QUOTE=Giotto]Mr. Vice President,

Glad that you noticed that we always served water for free. But obviously you did not realize that we double charged all other drinks :) .


Giotto[/QUOTE]

WTF....bottle water is all I drink, and last visit had two barbills for 3K each?

Ooops, forgot about the gin and tonics for the pesky one and beers for Yi Ren....RLMAO

[QUOTE=SexWithSmile]When is the wedding date? I am so excited.[/QUOTE]

The day after I leave. Besides, how will she get pregnant with her always saying in that cute Thai accent: "Put in in my poo-pah"? :)

To quote Christopher Cross's Ride Like the Wind" "I was nowhere in sight when the church bells rang."

2J

[QUOTE=Giotto]SidTheSexist,Thanks for staying here. Was fun to have you with us. Good luck for your new plans - and come back soon.Giotto
BTW: What did you do in those beds :) ?[/QUOTE]
G,
I had a great stay in the hotel. I really do enjoy the place. Good to have a beer and a chat with you too. I am actually still in BKK. Went out with Meaty after I left your place and never made it to the airport.
See you next time.
Sid

Was supposed to be on a plane at noon time to HK/Seoul for short visit, and then phone call late last night resulted in change of plans. Now leaving Friday for a much longer trip, eventually working my way to LOS second week of Feb....

Marketing Director :D

You make some valid points Thor, however the situation with me is a bit different. The thing is, I really don't give a shit! If she likes me, fine, if not, I don't care.
I had dinner with her last night, very nice lady, huge fucking rack BTW, "they are a "D" cup, she said, after catching me staring at them. I told her I would be back next week, and to let me know if she wants to stay with me, so I can find a place away from soi 33. She says yes, fine, she says no, fine also. I had a non P4P TGF for 2 years, and I didn't put up with any shit. Of course, I also didn't have a mobile. many times, I would kiss her goodbye, and leave for the airport, only to check into another hotel, for a couple of days of fun.
So, we'll see. i put her in a cab at 10.30, and headed for the sports lounge.

Nothing like too much drink, loud music, and some pool to get rid of the flu. Who needs doctors to help you, when you have the sports lounge? Thanks G. Sorry for drinking your red wine.

Off to censorship land for 5 days, where only a few privileged can access ISG (Piper, WR), so I will miss all you guys, (sniff sniff). Be good.

[quote=1ball]...
nothing like too much drink, loud music, and some pool to get rid of the flu. who needs doctors to help you, when you have the sports lounge? thanks g. sorry for drinking your red wine.
...[/quote]mr. vice president,

you checked in yesterday, sick, flu, you had lost weight, and as always you looked like - what can i say - , but this time more than ever.

you time in bali has obviously used up all your power. first you drank my white wine, then my red wine. to drink my white wine is acceptable to a certain extend, to steal my red wine is a considered to be a criminal act. i contacted my lawyers already.

again no girl wanted to go with you, so you had to sleep alone.

you should consider to relax for some time, to regain power and put a smile on your face. may be then your life will be better again. may be - not sure.

as discussed last night you will stay in peep inn next time, they don't offer white or red wine, so you will be safe :) .

have fun in arab country!


giotto

[QUOTE=Giotto]Mr. Vice President,

...You should consider to relax for some time, to regain power and put a smile on your face.

Have fun in Arab Country!
[/QUOTE]Hey, that's why he's coming to Dubai - to put a smile on his face! Dubai is party-town, and partying nearly every night is compulsory. I escape to Bangkok occasionally to have a quiet rest and catch up on sleep. :D

Unfortunately my stay in BKK has ended. The Lodge has felt like a home away from home, and the entire Livingstone's staff has felt like friends and family. Giotto's is more than just a hotel, which really made me never want to leave.

From the Champagne party to the evening gown nights, there was always something new and fun at the bar, and I made friends with so many of the girls as well as fellow ISG members during my stay. Thank you Giotto for your guidance and conversation over dinner and Hefeweizen. Thank you SexWithSmile for your friendship; it was a great time hanging out with you, brother!

The next time I am in BKK, which I hope is sooner rather than later, I cannot imagine staying anywhere else. Giotto has truly made a small paradise for himself and his guests. Thanks for the great times, and I look forward to seeing you all again real soon!

2J

[QUOTE=SidTheSexist]G,
I had a great stay in the hotel. I really do enjoy the place. Good to have a beer and a chat with you too. I am actually still in BKK. Went out with Meaty after I left your place and never made it to the airport.
See you next time.
Sid[/QUOTE]SidTheSexist,

LOL!

Thanks for staying with us, it was a pleasure for me to meet you again, and good fun, too.

Tell Meaty, this bestard, that he did not show up for months now. I give him some more days to report to me...:)

BTW: [b][size=+1]IT IS SWIMMING POOL PARTY TODAY!!![/b][/size]

Thanks again.


Giotto

[QUOTE=Too Jaded]Unfortunately my stay in BKK has ended. The Lodge has felt like a home away from home, and the entire Livingstone's staff has felt like friends and family. Giotto's is more than just a hotel, which really made me never want to leave.
...
[/QUOTE]Too Jaded,

If was a pleasure for us to have you with us in the Lodge. We really had fun, right?

You were missed last night, you had already become a kind of inventory of the Lodge. Everybody could notice that you were not there any more.

I hope things go well for you, on the next steps of your trip as well as in your new job. Remember what we talked about before you left!

Have fun, Good Luck - and come back soon.


Giotto

Yesterday's Swimming Pool Party - (so many parties in January)...

First ever fashion show in Livingstone's - the girls walking around the pool showing their sexy outfit. Most of them ending up in the pool thereafter. It was really great.

Party until 2:30 am in the morning.

Enough with all the parties now, I need a rest.


Giotto

Wow sounds like the pool party was great. How could I miss that even though I'm staying at the Lodge? Problem is I was there too early (no girls in the pool, but had a nice chat with Giotto anyway) and got back too late, after a mate an I got swept up in the action around Soi Cowboy. This guy convinced me that I HAD to see the lesbian show at Suzie Wong's, and he was right. It's insane. Rules have definitely loosened up on the Soi. Beers and beers later I ended up at bar around the corner from the end of Soi Cowboy called "Siamese Twins" playing strip pool at the table upstairs until 2:30. I won :) This bar is tiny, but the girls are absolutely wild...worth a look, but not early.

Hard to choose between spending all your time at the Lodge & sports bar with all the sweet girls there, or going out and throwing yourself into the BKK nightlife. It's a no-lose situation.

is fast enough that I can watch broadcast TV sent from my slingbox in San Francisco at the Giotto's breakfast bar or my guest room on my notebook.

Hi all. Haven't been on this board for a while. Got lost in China's Changping love nest. Young girls and low price. Hehehehhe.

You must stay at Giotto if not for the Wifi, then Giotto's company.

Bill



[QUOTE=Plugger]Hi guys coming to Bangkok in March. Ive scrolled through quite a few pages but cant seem to find any mention of the room rates. Also, do the rooms have reliable wifi access? There is also no mention of these matters on the Livingstones website. Someone please fill me in. Cheers.[/QUOTE]

So this is the end of my stay at Livingstones – about 50 nights spend here. I shall not shed tears of despair, and prose about the top-range personal service I have received, and the meaningful relationship I had here with everyone, from owner to staff (and some of the girls. .), or how sad I am to leave this place (and go to Jakarta.), and give my profund thanks to all the staff. Well, it is true of course, but readers of this Forum will be bored, and G will think that I am an butt-sucker. Neither shall I say "Great service, here is the 20-bullets list of complains". There are always things to improve, and I have told them to G & G already – but I don’t want to give the impression of a thumb-sucking little brat who complains about everything.

There are many posts who clearly describe what to expect from Livingstones. It’s cool, friendly, small, confortable, good value (especially if you take advantage of the ISG promotions), informative, funny, very different from what you may expect in sterile big hotels. Sometimes little unconveniences may arise (difficult to avoid when staying 2 months), and this is the experience of travel. People who expect everything to run 100% don’t find pleasure in travel and should stay home. This is the Bestards place – and I look forward to be back!

Hi All!

Was there two times in the last 3 days.

It was nice, t/4 I changed my booking for my next visit from 5 Star Hotel to
Livingstone instead.

Nice location. although I cannot remember how I managed to find the way back to my Hotel.

I mixed Red Wine and German Wheatbeer. This is a deadly mixture, believe me !

See you in March again

Somebody sent this to me:

[b]You know you've been in Thailand too long when:[/b]

You can go for weeks without toilet paper
The footprints on the toilet seat are your own
It's perfectly acceptable to drive on the wrong side of the street
You decline to wear a motorbike helmet because it will mess up your hair
You have a pinky fingernail an inch long
It is no longer surprising that the only decision made at meeting time is the venue of the next meeting
You no longer wonder how a civil servant earning 400US$ a month can afford to drive a Mercedes
It's exciting to see if you can get into the elevator before anyone else can get out
"Sexpats", "Pirates", "Yellow Fever" and "Rice Queens" are part of your vocabulary
It's just part of the adventure when the waiter correctly repeats your order and the cook makes you something completely different
When shopping at the supermarket, a farang stares you down when he catches you looking into his basket while you wonder to yourself what farangs eat
You are not surprised when three men show up to change a light bulb.
You are careful to cover your mouth when picking your teeth, but openly pick your nose at the dinner table.
You eat bugs and tell yourself they are nutritious and have a lot of protein
You tell yourself paying bribes to the police is all right
Your Thai wife's family have lived with you for years and they don't seem to want to leave
You go back to your home country and miss Thailand right away
In a street brawl you side with the locals
Rice for breakfast, lunch and dinner is perfectly OK
You stand five minutes in front of an escalator planning your day
You duck your head automatically when you pass in front of someone.
You accept ice in your beer
Your wrist always has some form of band around it
You pat scabby dogs on the head
When lime green shower shoes go with everything in your wardrobe.
When you can have a laugh with a bloke in a skirt that has bigger boobs than your Mrs.
When the traffic doesn't bother you anymore everybody drives like that
When it's nothing out of the ordinary to see a family of five on a motorcycle and the dog riding pillion
When you visit your home country and you experience culture shock
When you start believing that "monogamy" is just a type of wood



Giotto

[QUOTE=Giotto]Yesterday's Swimming Pool Party - (so many parties in January)...

First ever fashion show in Livingstone's - the girls walking around the pool showing their sexy outfit. Most of them ending up in the pool thereafter. It was really great.

Party until 2:30 am in the morning.

Enough with all the parties now, I need a rest.


Giotto[/QUOTE]I am looking for such a pool party some day!

[QUOTE=Giotto][b]You know you've been in Thailand too long when:[/b][/quote]These are the ones that have been integrated into my life:

- You can go for weeks without toilet paper (not entirely true. I need it to blow my nose)

- The footprints on the toilet seat are your own (believe it or not, it's a better way!)

- You decline to wear a motorbike helmet because it will mess up your hair (i never ask for one, but if the driver hands me a helmet while we're motoring along it means the police are dead ahead and i put it on as quickly as possible)

- When shopping at the supermarket, a farang stares you down when he catches you looking into his basket while you wonder to yourself what farangs eat (it is amazing sometimes isn't it?)

- You are careful to cover your mouth when picking your teeth, but openly pick your nose at the dinner table. (I try not to do that too openly, but I don't wait until a better time comes along)

- You eat bugs and tell yourself they are nutritious and have a lot of protein (No, I just eat them when I'm in the mood)

- You tell yourself paying bribes to the police is all right (It is 100% all right when you benefit. it always has been!)

- You go back to your home country and miss Thailand right away (That used to happen, but now it takes a few days)

- In a street brawl you side with the locals (most of the time, but just in spirit. I don't get into brawls)

- Rice for breakfast, lunch and dinner is perfectly OK (yup)

- You stand five minutes in front of an escalator planning your day (me have a plan!?!)

- You accept ice in your beer (I ask for it if the beer isn't cold enough)

- You pat scabby dogs on the head (Not to often, but I usually have some pretty good conversations with the ones in my neighborhood)

- When you can have a laugh with a bloke in a skirt that has bigger boobs than your Mrs. (hell no! that's rude!)

- When the traffic doesn't bother you anymore everybody drives like that (the traffic only bothers me if I'm in a car which isn't often because I normally take a motorcyc)

- When it's nothing out of the ordinary to see a family of five on a motorcycle and the dog riding pillion (Actually, this is something I think should not be out of the ordinary in the country I come from, but it is)

- When you visit your home country and you experience culture shock (I experienced culture shock in my home country before I had ever left it)

- When you start believing that "monogamy" is just a type of wood (The sailboat I liquidated before moving to Thailand had some of that wood on it!)

poster . . .

Hey G,

Sorry I forgot to get back with you about making copies! I got it done for a decent price (2 Baht per page) on Soi 11/1. Thanks again and sorry I forgot to notify you!

[QUOTE=Tiger 1]I am looking for such a pool party some day![/QUOTE]Dude,

Leave some ladies for us too.

Giotto,

I enjoyed our conversation last nite. I guess I must have talked too much as this morning I woke up with a sore throat. Unfortunately it also comes with a runny nose and that crappy feeling that only comes with a cold.

See you soon

[QUOTE=SexWithSmile]So this is the end of my stay at Livingstones – about 50 nights spend here.
...[/QUOTE]SexWithSmile,

Immediately after you left the staff celebrated a huge party - any idea why :) ???

....

Thanks for staying here, it was great to have you with us. I enjoyed seeing you working at the pool during the weekends, and partying at night time in our Sports Lounge. That's the type of customer we built Livingstone's for.

I know that it will be some time until you can come back. We will wait for you.

Have safe trips, and Good Luck!


Giotto

I just completed a four night stay. Had an excellent time and found both the boss and the manager had good advice. Greatly enjoyed the time I spent with my bar fines.

The Champagne Party and the Pool Party were great although I hear that things really got going after I left on both nights.

Stayed in one of the new rooms. It had a Jacuzzi tub but not a separate shower. If you want a separate shower be sure to request a room with one. They offered to move me but I was too lazy to pack up all my crap for just a couple of nights.

I will definitely be back! Highly recommended.

[QUOTE=PosterLion]...
Hey G,

Sorry I forgot to get back with you about making copies! I got it done for a decent price (2 Baht per page) on Soi 11/1. Thanks again and sorry I forgot to notify you![/QUOTE]PosterLion,

No problem. Just keep me posted what is going on. Interesting story.


Giotto

The Vice President is back.

He caught me this morning with the most unusual question I have ever heard here in Livingstone's:

[b]Where can I get a soapy massage WITHOUT sex???[/b]

To be honest - I had no answer!

He must be sick. First he is mixing up the photo gallery with one single report, and now this ... [b]Bestards[/b], I need your advice, what penalty I have to impose at him now. With such a behavior he is destroying all our well-earned reputation.



Giotto

SidTheSexist,

I just saw you checking out. Good Luck!

Don't come back too late tonight...after missing your flight (on purpose) again. We will keep the room reserved for you :) .


Giotto

After a nice poolside chat with G, I feel compelled to make the following announcement.
[b][size=+1]"Grandma G" [/b][/size]is arriving Friday night from Germany for a 10 days visit.
There will be a lingerie /swimming pool party / dance contest / coyote bar dancing Friday, in her honor, with [b][size=+1]"Grandma G" [/b][/size] not only the guest of honor, but also an eager participant, as she is showing off her new line of naughty undies. For those who are interested, the BF for [b][size=+1]"Grandma G" [/b][/size] is 10,000 Bt.

I am quite sure she and T1234, and Duni will end up in the pool after the party.

Sorry I will miss it.

FYI, i have just been informed by senior mangement, that in order to mark this occasion as stupendous, there will also be an Argentinian cow slaughtering party. german knives are being flown in for the event. Do not miss it, festivities start at 8.24 PM sharp

[QUOTE=Giotto]The Vice President is back.

He caught me this morning with the most unusual question I have ever heard here in Livingstone's:

[b]Where can I get a soapy massage WITHOUT sex???[/b]

To be honest - I had no answer!

He must be sick. First he is mixing up the photo gallery with one single report, and now this ... [b]Bestards[/b], I need your advice, what penalty I have to impose at him now. With such a behavior he is destroying all our well-earned reputation.



Giotto[/QUOTE]

Spend one week with Cyperspace as a house mate?

[QUOTE=Fun Times69]Spend one week with Cyperspace as a house mate?[/QUOTE]
Tiger, this is a declaration of war. Cyber for a week???? I would rather kill myself than be subjected to a week of pig pics.

[QUOTE=1Ball].

I am quite sure she and T1234, and Duni will end up in the pool after the party.

Sorry I will miss it.
[/QUOTE]

Pls cancel my reservation for the dungeon, i am moving to another hotel during my stay....

In fact, i think will change my itinerary and head over to bali instead. heard there is this ex GF of one of our esteemed members who is giving out freebies.

:D

[QUOTE=1Ball]I am quite sure she and T1234, and Duni will end up in the pool after the party.

Sorry I will miss it[/QUOTE]
Heck no. I don't know how to swim. I only know the breast stroke and that too on a bed and not in the water. :)

Looks like my arrival is postponed to 6th or 7th. Dr. G, please make a note. Will confirm later.

[quote=1ball]after a nice poolside chat with g, i feel compelled to make the following announcement.
[b][size=+1]"grandma g" [/b][/size]is arriving friday night from germany for a 10 days visit.
...[/quote]mr. vice president,

i just heard that granny g arrives early! you will have the honour to spend some time with her in the pool - tonight.

hope you have fun :) !


giotto

ps: peep inn is completely booked - so sorry!

[quote=giotto]mr. vice president,

i just heard that granny g arrives early! you will have the honour to spend some time with her in the pool - tonight.

hope you have fun :) !
giotto
ps: peep inn is completely booked - so sorry![/quote]
giotto, u know i like to swim naked. i hope she does too, hehehe
who knows, you could end up calling me "dad" !!!

[QUOTE=1Ball]Giotto, u know I like to swim naked. I hope she does too, hehehe
Who knows, you could end up calling me "DAD" !!![/QUOTE]Mr. Vice President,

Just go ahead, don't worry about anything. You both are nearly same age (74), and for this age groups there are no limitations of having fun here in Thailand, Dad :) (in spe)!



Giotto

[QUOTE=Duniawala]Heck no. I don't know how to swim. I only know the breast stroke and that too on a bed and not in the water. :)

Looks like my arrival is postponed to 6th or 7th. Dr. G, please make a note. Will confirm later.[/QUOTE]Sir,

No problem at all! Granny will wait for you :) ! She knows how to "swim" !


Giotto

[QUOTE=Giotto]SidTheSexist,
I just saw you checking out. Good Luck!
Don't come back too late tonight...after missing your flight (on purpose) again. We will keep the room reserved for you :) .Giotto[/QUOTE]
G,
I made it safely to Meatys home last night however, as predicted, I was not so sucessfull with my trip to the airport. After a few beers, it was decided by Meaty that there would be no point in me going back midweek.
And so I never made it, again. I think that was my 8th scheduled flight out of here which I have "missed". I blame it on the beds!
sid:D

[QUOTE=SidTheSexist]G,
I made it safely to Meatys home last night however, as predicted, I was not so sucessfull with my trip to the airport. After a few beers, it was decided by Meaty that there would be no point in me going back midweek.
And so I never made it, again. I think that was my 8th scheduled flight out of here which I have "missed". I blame it on the beds!
sid:D[/QUOTE]SidTheSexist,

[b][size=+4]ROFLMAO[/b][/size]

:):):)


Giotto

[QUOTE=1Ball]Tiger, this is a declaration of war. Cyber for a week???? I would rather kill myself than be subjected to a week of pig pics.[/QUOTE]

provided you took an ample supply of sharpened sticks there would never be a shortage of spit roasts... there's a positive herd of wild boar roaming the streets of BKK if cyber's posts are to be beleived... I've never seen wild game that is in anyway to the same standards as cyber's conquests... he truely is an expert in his field :)

although... I suspect I would rapidly seek alternative uses for the sharpened sticks, heaven knows why.

1Ball, as you no longer have a functioning keyboard your only alternative is to see them in the flesh?

[QUOTE=Fun Times69]...
1Ball, as you no longer have a functioning keyboard your only alternative is to see them in the flesh?[/QUOTE]Fun Times69,

The Vice President could post some pictures about his night with Granny ... :), last night!


Giotto

At least, she is cuter than pig vomit we have been subjected to in the photo thread! [QUOTE=Giotto]Fun Times69,

The Vice President could post some pictures about his night with Granny ... :), last night!


Giotto[/QUOTE]

Thinking that one week ago, I was laying in the shade, working on my laptop, and meditating about the next 3 or 4-some. Under the complacent look of Mr The President.

And now I am stuck in the Interconti hotel in Jakarta, the city under water, the worst rains and floods since 5 years. The hotel district is dry, but. Horror and desperation. The infamous BLOK M is under water. I couldn't even pay a visit. And now I heard that I shall miss GrandMa G party.

Life is so cruel.

After a very busy January the road is extermely quiet since 4 days.

Not many customers in restaurant and sports lounge. Funny, this is the main season...

And all the girls going home alone - and horny ... so sad.


Giotto

[QUOTE=Giotto]And all the girls going home alone - and horny ... so sad.[/QUOTE]Is there a "Special Horny Girl" Discount ? LOL. I was thinking of offering my services (usually for a fee) to these girls if they want to satisfy their sex appetite, but since they are your girls Giotto, I'll make an exception and do it for FREE.

Ok, I'm kidding. Can a monger (who lives in Bangkok and not stay in the hotel) come to the bar? and are there any special Discounts for "short term room rental?"

Thanks Giotto

[quote=nicfrenchy]...
ok, i'm kidding. can a monger (who lives in bangkok and not stay in the hotel) come to the bar? and are there any special discounts for "short term room rental?"
...[/quote]nicfrenchy,

just get over here - you don't need to stay in the hotel if you only want to visit the sports lounge...very much appreciated.

i am not in tomorrow and wednesday - a short trip to cambodia...

no short time discounts, we don't want livingstone's to be a short time hotel. but close to us there is peep inn, the favorite place from mr. vice president and piper - there you can find short time rooms for reasonable prices.

i of course cannot help the ladies with their needs. rule no. 1: never fuck the payroll. so i really need you to "help" the ladies :) !!!


giotto

[QUOTE=Giotto]NicFrenchy,

just get over here - you don't need to stay in the hotel if you only want to visit the Sports Lounge...very much appreciated.[/QUOTE]Will do :)

Always good to meet new people.

Was at Livingstones for quite literally a flying visit on Saturday night.

Arrived at Livingstones around 7.30pm, the place hasn't changed, but seems quite a lot of building work going on (someone must be doing pretty well for himself!!)

I was a bit apphensive about the evening because I had no sleep on my plane journey and had a bit of a cold (but reader, do please read on, as things did improve).

Checked in, said hello to the owner and his able assistant, etc and waited for my fellow mongerer friend. He was bummed that I had a bath tub in my room and he had just a shower in his. I wasn't too fuseed, so we shifted rooms. We headed down to the bar for a few drinks. Seems some of the girls were new (and some I had seen from my last stay).

We then ended up down Soi Cowboy. Checked out a few places there (FYI top floor of Barracuda well worth a visit, just for looking though). Had some fun with some girls in another bar (can't remember the name).

We then went back to Soi 33 and went into a bar pretty much opposite Livingstone (cannot remember the name though, had been drinking a little bit and had not eaten, because after all eating is cheating) and had quite a lot of fun with a couple of girls (one was quite happy for my finger to visit her alan).

We then went back to Livingstone where I ended up bumping into a girl I had been with on my last visit. We invited a few girls over and I was up for a threesome. But my main mission was to make sure my friend got a threesome (which he did). Anyway with him sorted I arranged a threesome for myself.

Both my girls were nice, small and cute (girl one had shared a girl with me when I was there last time, but claimed not since then, while girl two never had). We headed upstairs and showered up. They were both happy to take turns to give me head and stroke my member. Its so great having two girls at the same time!! One girl would be giving me head while I was able to play around with the other girl, or I would be shagging one girl while licking the other one. Girl one wasn't keen on my finger entering her alan, but girl two didn't seem to mind much.

I did attempt to try and get girl on girl action on, but alas girl one didn't seem keen. Girl two seemed a bit more receptive and did go ahead and try to stoke girl one, but girl one giggled it off. Oh well.

Anyway I passed out at six in the morning after being well and truly serviced.

Got up at 9am, had breakfast with friend (and dear readers you will be glad to know he made full use of the bath tub), then I had to hop on my plane.

Till next time I'm in Bangkok.....

I arrived on Saturday for my first experience in Bangkok as well as Giotto's lodge. So far I have been impressed and it has been very much as advertised. At first glance it was weird seeing all the tall buildings surrounding the lodge, but then I realized it really is an oasis amongst the chaos outside. The restaurant menu is very extensive and I have been very happy with the food. The breakfast is great and I love that I can have it at any time. The room very much matches the pics on the website and are very comfortable.

I am still getting over jet lag from my day and a half trip and have only sampled the sports bar one time. Being a rookie, I probaby made a few mistakes. I entered and was almost immediately approached by a cute little girl. She was very smiley and fun and I had a good time. After a game of pool, through somewhat broken english she asked if I'd barfine her and take her upstairs. I decided what the hell and payed up and we went to the room. Being tired from jet lag and somewhat dehydrated made it a bit more of a chore than it should have been to enjoy myself, probably should have waited at least a day before partaking, but the little head as usual took over. The next morning she was still friendly and seemed to want to spend some time with me sight seeing. I probably should have politely declined as this seemed to be her way of guaranteeing repeat business. I can understand the reasoning, but would prefer not to be "owned" by any one of the girls in the sports bar as variety is the spice of life. I was not upset with her performance or her attitude, I was a bit annoyed with her unwillingness for a second shot in the morning. I kind of felt after having shared my bed and paying a little more than average (3000 baht) more was in order, but perhaps that is normal. As I said, I am a rookie and lessons learned.

I have yet to meet Giotto. I have seen him sitting with his mother and don't want to disturb him or ask any unsuitable questions in front of her.

[QUOTE=Russell Crowe] I was a bit annoyed with her unwillingness for a second shot in the morning. I kind of felt after having shared my bed and paying a little more than average (3000 baht) [/QUOTE]Hello Russel,

3000 baht is normal price for LT on Soi 33, all the girls ask for it, but you can always try to negotiate lower. LT means 2 shots. I know it's hard to enforce it if she seems "unwilling", so it is up to you to wake up her hormones, brudder. Finger her slowly and surely while she is half-asleep, take your time, kiss her whole body - usually it works. Apologies for the lecture (no condescendance intended) if you did already tried this and she didn't respond, then she is a real bad service provider and you can totally forget her. I tried quite a few girls at Livingstones, and was always satisfied, but there are always rotten apples.

Having heard so much about this place, I headed over to Soi 33 after doing a couple of rounds around Queen Sikrit park. Dressed in shorts, I hobbled to Livingstone's. The lady in front warmly greeted me. Even with the swollen ankle she had, she was willing to escort me inside which I refused.

I was impressed with the outdoor lighting and the atmosphere. As I continued walking, I came across the dining area around the swimming pool. The lighting and the whole atmosphere was quite eclectric.

I was just imagining whoever stays there, bringing their girls in for a nice dinner in that atmosphere by the pool, and then heading upwards to their rooms, then in the jacuzzi, and onto bed for nightly activities. Very nice.

I headed over to the bar. There were about 10 girls dressed in white, with high heels. Very elegant, typical Soi 33 style. Mamasan sent a young lass to talk to me. Wasn't very good looking, but friendly enough and I offered her a drink. I had no intention of barfining since the 3 barfines I have done in Soi 33 on previous trips only ended in aggravation. But she started leaning towards that area, kept touching me all over my body, telling me how happy she would make me, and after a couple of drinks, I was thinking, why not? Maybe this will turn out better than the last 3.

So we started negotiations. She said, " I want one, two, three, four thousand bhat" and she repeated the four thousand bhat. This added with the barfine together with the fact that she had had 2 kids already was enough to put me off. She would not budge. I was dressed in shorts and I told her I stayed at Nana hotel, since I did not want a premium added to the rate if I told her where I really stayed.

As I left the bar, I hit the washroom, where I checked whether someone had while I was not paying attention, written the letters "ATM" on my forehead.

Additionally, I kept asking about Giotto and where he was, after hearing so much about the place, but nobody understood the words "boss or Giotto". Maybe I will have the pleasure of meeting him some other time.

Nice place, good atmosphere. An oasis among the concrete jungle.

[QUOTE=SexWithSmile]LT means 2 shots. I know it's hard to enforce it if she seems "unwilling", so it is up to you to wake up her hormones, brudder.[/QUOTE]SWS,

Sorry mate, have to disagree here.

It's P4P... She's NOT your girlfriend. You purchase a Service and since you pay, she has to provide the service.

Note to Newbies: Do not let the girls pull these tricks off on you. That is why ISG is here, sharing invaluable info in order to avoid getting ripped off.

Rule#1 = Always discuss the terms of the contract first

Rule#2 = Never pay in advance, always pay according to service provided

In your case Russell, You clearly did not get the service you paid for. I would have given her 1,000 thb only. 1 shot = short time.

On the other hand, if she exceeds your expectations, Tip well ;)

You need to talk to Giotto and point out the lady. You got shortchanged.

[QUOTE=Ramn HK]Additionally, I kept asking about Giotto and where he was, after hearing so much about the place, but nobody understood the words "boss or Giotto". Maybe I will have the pleasure of meeting him some other time.[/QUOTE]
Never ask for Giotto when at Livingstone's: they do not know that name there. Giotto is just the screen name/alter ego/evil twin side of the owner known only to ISG.

[QUOTE=Ramn HK]Having heard so much about this place, I headed over to Soi 33 after doing a couple of rounds around Queen Sikrit park. Dressed in shorts, I hobbled to Livingstone's. The lady in front warmly greeted me. Even with the swollen ankle she had, she was willing to escort me inside which I refused.
As I left the bar, I hit the washroom, where I checked whether someone had while I was not paying attention, written the letters "ATM" on my forehead.

Additionally, I kept asking about Giotto and where he was, after hearing so much about the place, but nobody understood the words "boss or Giotto". Maybe I will have the pleasure of meeting him some other time.

Nice place, good atmosphere. An oasis among the concrete jungle.[/QUOTE]

Wow, what a story...sorry to hear things didn't go well. I was actually having a quiet dinner (alone) by the pool after my Akane experience and didnt' go into the bar. Actually, not totally true, my date from night before left her toothbrush case in my room, so popped in to return to her:)

But back to your situation - I've never heard of the girls asking for that type of dough at G's. But the bar has a new crop of young ones and maybe the price has gone up. I popped into the bar Monday night after checking in, bought the mamasan and a couple of the girls some drinks, at midnight barfined a newbie and we never even talked price. When done, gave her B2000 and she was fine with it. I've always thought going rate was ST B2000-2500 and LT 2500-3000, and LT means multiple shots, not just 1 or 2.

YMMV???


PS - ask for owner of Livingstone's if you visit. don't ask for giotto - no such person officially exists when visiting there....the board is secret to the public.

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]SWS,

Sorry mate, have to disagree here.

It's P4P... She's NOT your girlfriend. You purchase a Service and since you pay, she has to provide the service.

[/QUOTE]Ah, NicFrenchy, a thing we could debate around a good bottle of wine...

Of course you purchase a service and are entitled to a second shot. My point is, when she is unwilling, when she plays tricks and clearly showed her boredom, shagging a yawning girl is not very self-motivating.

Therefore the second shot depends on a lot of factors, but even if the girl is not my GF, I still like to see some motivation from her. I don't say to give it up. I say that you can first try some foreplays. They usually work better than bluntly saying "I wake up, I did not take shower, I am horney, I wake you up and let's fuck"... (what many people do). I am not presuming of what Russel did - maybe our friend was nice and trying, and the ***** simply took advantage.

Now we all agree that the Forum is a great place to exchange experiences and prices, so we shall continue to use it as our legitimate defense against all those girls who sometimes turn out greedy.

Just back from a Cambodia trip, 2 days Angkor Wat, tourist guide ...

Will read all the reports and comment later today.


Giotto

[QUOTE=SexWithSmile]Ah, NicFrenchy, a thing we could debate around a good bottle of wine...[/QUOTE]With pleasure, as long as it is red wine ;)

[QUOTE=SexWithSmile]Of course you purchase a service and are entitled to a second shot. My point is, when she is unwilling, when she plays tricks and clearly showed her boredom, shagging a yawning girl is not very self-motivating.[/QUOTE]Looks like I completely missed the point [feels stupid] LOL

But I still think my points are valid anyhow ;)

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]SWS,

Sorry mate, have to disagree here.

It's P4P... She's NOT your girlfriend. You purchase a Service and since you pay, she has to provide the service.

Note to Newbies: Do not let the girls pull these tricks off on you. That is why ISG is here, sharing invaluable info in order to avoid getting ripped off.

Rule#1 = Always discuss the terms of the contract first

Rule#2 = Never pay in advance, always pay according to service provided

In your case Russell, You clearly did not get the service you paid for. I would have given her 1,000 thb only. 1 shot = short time.

On the other hand, if she exceeds your expectations, Tip well ;)

You need to talk to Giotto and point out the lady. You got shortchanged.[/QUOTE]

I don’t agree to the statement either. You way is way to byrocratic and has the basic attitude of mistrust. If you start like that that in your mind a counter of deliverables is counting those, then you may miss some fun.

I never had a problem with multiple shots. My girls tended to stay till late afternoon. but the multiple shots came out as the result of some fun playing and talking, joking, Jacuzzi bath fun etc. So it was never a wake up and get to action directly. All was more fun laugh and play then to follow an unwritten duty schedule.

I may have to make a bad experience yet, sometime it may happen, but I won't make a fuss out of it, cut money (but don't tip either), talk to the 'boss' etc. Just will not repeat, but keep gentle and in the bar may clearly choose another girl.

Chemistry needs to be there or created. This is what will make the difference between a fun and enjoy experience and a schedule of duty. But this is well known here anyhow.

regards

Brain666

[QUOTE=Ramn HK]
....
So we started negotiations. She said, " I want one, two, three, four thousand bhat" and she repeated the four thousand bhat. This added with the barfine together with the fact that she had had 2 kids already was enough to put me off. She would not budge. I was dressed in shorts and I told her I stayed at Nana hotel, since I did not want a premium added to the rate if I told her where I really stayed.
.....
[/QUOTE]

Hmm, something which should be monitored more if the new mamasan drives up the price.
Agree with traveler that at the time I stayed there the asking price was 3000 or 2500 for LT and you could easily settle for 2.500. Some told 2000 LT as well. I am neither been-counting and try to squeeze out the latest 500 or 100 baht, but 4000 asking price for an even not outstanding looking girl would be way to much for me as well. I made too good experience (maybe lucky) with 2000- 2500 Baht LT Go Go girls as I would go for that. Not to forget the higher barfine, which should reflect, some better base quality level to be justified. Anyhow lets monitor this and adjust our behavior.
Supply and demand is the key for that settlement.

Regards

Brain666

[QUOTE=Brain666]I won't make a fuss out of it, cut money (but don't tip either), talk to the 'boss' etc. Just will not repeat[/QUOTE]I think this is exactly the type of behaviour that encourages the girls to try tricks on us. how can a bubbly BG before the barfine turn into a lady with stomach ache that can't fuck once you both have showered? because she knows she can get away with it.

[i](may happend in any bar in Bangkok, the persons in this dialogue are fictional)[/i]

Noi: Sawasdee Kha Tuk
Tuk: Sawasdee Kha Noi, Sabai dee mai Kha?
Noi: I very tired.... farang take me LT and make boom boom all night
Tuk: wow, me take Farang LT also but he let me go after ST
Noi: really? Farang come in my mouth, have sex many position, fuck my ass
Tuk: Fuck your ass?
Noi: Yes, now hurt a little bit, and tired, only sleep 2 hours
Tuk: Wow
Noi: And you?
Tuk: Farang stay in nice hotel, but I pretend I have pain in my stomach and cannot boom boom... he complain and I agree but after 15 second I tell him hurt too much... he finish Blowjob only
Noi: wow
Tuk: how much your farang pay you?
Noi: 2000, and you?
Tuk: 1500.
Noi: really?
Tuk: yes, next time make like me, farang will pay anyway!

I can imagine the BG Bragging how she duped her customer and all the other girls being impressed.

of course, it is always better to have a GFE, but never lose sight of who is in control... the client or the provider ;)

Mr the President,

I request the approval to open a Livingstones branch in Jakarta.

It's a shithole currently under the water, but greeeaaatttt fun. We'll do a floating hotel, to be on the safe side.

Cheers

[QUOTE=Traveler1234] I've always thought going rate was ST B2000-2500 and LT 2500-3000, and LT means multiple shots, not just 1 or 2.[/QUOTE]
Gawd, I have been underpaying for ST from Livingstone's all this time. I thought it was 1500 ST and 2250 for LT. Shame on me. I must pay the pesky one more next time.

[QUOTE=Duniawala]Gawd, I have been underpaying for ST from Livingstone's all this time. I thought it was 1500 ST and 2250 for LT. Shame on me. I must pay the pesky one more next time.[/QUOTE]

I know the persistent one but not ever did meet the pesky one until this trip.

I finally ran into her (fellow ISG had emailed a picture of her) - she is now a receptionist outside and not working in the bar. One evening, as I was returning from work, she wanted to escort me into the bar before she realized I was a house guest. G told me she prefers outside now and only goes out with 'regulars', and not those newbies that tend to "fall in luv".

We gotta make sure we meet up again so that I learn from the 'Master'.....

[QUOTE=Brain666]Hmm, something which should be monitored more if the new mamasan drives up the price.
Agree with traveler that at the time I stayed there the asking price was 3000 or 2500 for LT and you could easily settle for 2.500. Some told 2000 LT as well. I am neither been-counting and try to squeeze out the latest 500 or 100 baht, but 4000 asking price for an even not outstanding looking girl would be way to much for me as well. I made too good experience (maybe lucky) with 2000- 2500 Baht LT Go Go girls as I would go for that. Not to forget the higher barfine, which should reflect, some better base quality level to be justified. Anyhow lets monitor this and adjust our behavior.
Supply and demand is the key for that settlement.

Regards

Brain666[/QUOTE]

I agree with both of Brain's posts.

I even mentioned what happened to G as I was checking out and his comment: maybe the girls didn't want to go with RamHK so they intentional quoted a high price? That is also, IMHO, a perfectly good and plausible explanation. Maybe hobbling into the bar with shorts, etc. didn't impress those young stallions that are now in G's stable....ROLFMAO.

[QUOTE=The World]Was at Livingstones for quite literally a flying visit on Saturday night.

Arrived at Livingstones around 7.30pm, the place hasn't changed, but seems quite a lot of building work going on (someone must be doing pretty well for himself!!)
...
[/QUOTE]The World,

Thanks for returning to Livingstone's ... you are right, I was very busy during the day when you stayed here.

No, there is actually no building work going on in the moment, the new rooms are up and running already, and the Presidential Suite - the construction company let us down, so the start of the construction work was postponed.

Anyway - hope to see you on your way back to Europe, then hopefully for a longer chat.


Giotto

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]I think this is exactly the type of behaviour that encourages the girls to try tricks on us. how can a bubbly BG before the barfine turn into a lady with stomach ache that can't fuck once you both have showered? because she knows she can get away with it.
....

[/QUOTE]

Just to make sure: Of course I wouldn't accept a total non-performer and then pay the full price. I would then have stopped the action rather in the beginning.

But this is the case of the morning action when she stayed over night already with reasonable performance. In this case I wouldn't have discounted the agreed price, but also wouldn't have given a Tip.

Usually I try to negotiate down from the original price (if not unrealistic high) to a level of 2000 or 2500 LT (if she fits into my optical category) and would mention a tip potential for a good experience.

However Russels companion is rather untypical. Being willing to spend the afternoon for sightseeing to hope for a second night doesn't really fit to the unwillingness for morning action.
I would expect such 'morning inactivity' rather goes along with the girls tendency to leave eerily, but not in this combination.

But what the heck, it doesn't matter. Some may count it a loss or scam for 500 Baht worth missing deliverable, but at the end of the stay, counting all sessions together there may have been also sessions with girls who may have provided outstanding service, more 'worth' then we have paid and tipped for. I guess it will equalize.

My total Thai girl P4P counter tells me ' I got so far more then I have paid for'. So maybe next stay I may experience some of the downside. But I still hope with the right attitude and chemistry MyMWV to the positive side.

Ok will report about it.

Regards

Brain666

PS: Oh sh.., coming to Thailand from 18th for 2 weeks but accompanied by spouse. May not be able to show up, not to mention to take action.

[QUOTE=Russell Crowe]...
I have yet to meet Giotto. I have seen him sitting with his mother and don't want to disturb him or ask any unsuitable questions in front of her.[/QUOTE]Russell Crowe,

Welcome to Livingstone's, and thanks for your report.

Indead - my mother is here in Bangkok, and I was quite "occupied" during the past few days. I know you are leaving soon - please try to get into contact with me today, that we can meet before you leave.

Thanks again


Giotto

Dr. G

Please have all your ladies lined up for an inspection. Coming on the 12th. Please ensure the dungeon is also all ready and the whips lined up. :D

[QUOTE=Ramn HK]...
As I left the bar, I hit the washroom, where I checked whether someone had while I was not paying attention, written the letters "ATM" on my forehead.

Additionally, I kept asking about Giotto and where he was, after hearing so much about the place, but nobody understood the words "boss or Giotto". Maybe I will have the pleasure of meeting him some other time.
...
[/QUOTE]Ramn HK,

Thanks for your report. You did quite well as walking (running) ATM machine :) ...

Again: The usual prices of the read are THB 2,000.00 ST, THB 3,000.00 LT. Later in the night some girls tend to even go for less. But of course they try to get more, if possible.

It seams for me that you made the right decision. If a girl wants so much money she does not really want to go, and the the experience is anyway not good.

Boss: It should always work to ask for the boss. Everybody knows the boss. Of couse nobody (should) know Giotto, but nowadays the name becomes more common here, because too many people still ask for Giotto.

The top experience was an SMS to Mrs. Giottos mobile some days ago: "Who is Giotto?" She came to me and asked...but she had already given the wrong answer to that customer. She thought it was a misspelling of the first name of our restaurant / hotel manager :) !

Hope to see you soon back at Livingstone's.



Giotto

[QUOTE=Finrod]Never ask for Giotto when at Livingstone's: they do not know that name there. Giotto is just the screen name/alter ego/evil twin side of the owner known only to ISG.[/QUOTE]Finrod,

"Evil twin side" - I like that.

Right now this "evil twin side" has somehow been deactivated. I urgently have to return to normal life.


Giotto

Bestards,

The "Sir" stays at the Lodge.

The quality control started last night already :) .



Giotto

Hey G

Since you're running a "Parallel Universe" over here in which those who only rarely delve into the main Thai board seem to thrive and have a good time, I was wondering if you could start a Parallel Photo Gallery on which people could post decent pics without the smart-ass, manipulative editorializing of Cyberspace? (not to mention his gross, disgusting pics).

Just a thought. ;)

[QUOTE=Ramn HK]

So we started negotiations. She said, " I want one, two, three, four thousand bhat" and she repeated the four thousand bhat. This added with the barfine together with the fact that she had had 2 kids already was enough to put me off. She would not budge. I was dressed in shorts and I told her I stayed at Nana hotel, since I did not want a premium added to the rate if I told her where I really stayed.[/QUOTE]

This seems [i]very[/i] atypical. But maybe she marked you as a fresh fish for the catching, as most of us stay there or have at some point been seen with 'the boss'. In that situation I would just be firm and polite and correct her pricing, letting her know you are not just off the boat. If she persists, Giotto has many, many more lovely ladies to shag.

Giotto: I am in the PI and back from my weekend fling in Palawan with my non-pro. She is a student looking for a foreign experience, so I obliged! But after your place, Cambodia, Sing, nor the PI can measure up to the LOS and the spectacular vacation I enjoyed with you and your Livingstones family. Is there anyway I can just move in and earn my room and board as your IT Manager?

Tell the girls I said hi, as well as the Mrs. G and our friend the manager. I miss all of them!

2J

[QUOTE=Brain666]Hmm, something which should be monitored more if the new mamasan drives up the price.
...
[/QUOTE]Brain666,

That's an interesting point - I am quite sure that she will try that. But as long as she is doing this realistically - she is even supported to do so by our management! This is NOT Soi Cowboy or Soi Nana!

Just read in another forum about a guy who was asked for THB 5,000.00 LT here in Soi 33. Don't want to forget the customers who come to the road for special girls and offer to buy Ferrari's and Condos, if the girls agree to marry them.

As you see the prices differ a lot :) !


Giotto

Just wonder. Why nobody tell Giotto? How good is cuisine. Went there. Great food. But never touched the girls at sports loundge. Spend a good time relaxing from a spress of stupid chineese people. Report follow later.

On my way back to US I decided to stop for a week of R&R in BKK. So I Came on Monday morning the 12th and checked in to the boutique hotel wth the African theme on Soi 33.

Checked in at about 8:30 am and tried to take a nap. After tossing and turning got up, showered and went down for breakfast. Dr. G was there drinking his 10th cup of coffee, sitting at a table with a lovely lady. Dr. G introduced her as his mother.

After a while I excused myself and took a short walk to Akane. My favorite Naomi was off that day, and had to make do with M and F. A good good cleaning shower, followed by a massage and fantastic BBJ followed for a happy, happy ending. What else can be better to start a day off. Cost: 1680 +300 tip.

Came back and met the new mamasan. Dr. G was gracious enough to introduce her. Convinced her for an afternoon lunch next day. But I had doubts. Took my leave and slept good for the next few hours.

Evening time. Went to the Sports Bar. The magnificent stable of Dr. G cannot be understated. Sure enough the Pesky one was back and massaging my shoulders. This time she introduced me to her friend Minh. I think it was the booze making the decision. Bar fined both of them.

Decided I was hungry and wanted to go out for dinner. Picked a cab and said I wanted to go to the night narket. What market? Heck if I could remember the name. The cab driver stopped at a seafood joint saying it was cheap and good. Cab driver rule number 103. Never trust a driver who says the food is cheap.

After dinner staggered back to the Livingstone's Lodge and into the room. Minh is not too good looking (average) but extremely attractive. And a smooth shaved pussy just begging for DATY. Oh well a rough night followed. Had a very good sleep till about 11 am. Took the ladies down for breakfast and bid them adieu. Damage: 2000 BF + 1500 Dinner + 5000 for the girls. Total 8,500 B for the night. man, that was a good chunk out of my budget. Decide to more sober that night and go easy.

Needless to say, mamasan never showed up. Wasn't too disappointed as 1. I wasn't really expecting her to show up and 2. Saved some money. I also found out that the next day was Dr. G's birthday, the Valentine's day.

Day 2 afternoon, went for my usual salon trip. Haircut, color, pedicure, manicure and a foot massage. Met a friend for lunch. Went and got something for G's birthday. Yakked for a while with G and his mom. She would be leaving that night for Germany.

Evening was more laid back. Shot some pool and BFd the Pesky one again. no dinner. Went to the room at about 1 am. and promptly went to sleep. Sleep was more important than fucking. However, made up for it the next morning.

Day 3. Bored. My Thai GF has gone to Malaysia to see her folks. Didn't want to go to Pattaya alone. So I did the next best thing. Called Thai and booked myself for the evening flight. Had one more 2 hr. oily massage. Came back, packed up and straight to the airport.

Sorry I missed the Valentines Party, Mr. G. Please do share some photos.

Till next time.

[QUOTE=Giotto]Brain666,

That's an interesting point - I am quite sure that she will try that. But as long as she is doing this realistically - she is even supported to do so by our management! This is NOT Soi Cowboy or Soi Nana!

Just read in another forum about a guy who was asked for THB 5,000.00 LT here in Soi 33. Don't want to forget the customers who come to the road for special girls and offer to buy Ferrari's and Condos, if the girls agree to marry them.

As you see the prices differ a lot :) !


Giotto[/QUOTE]

Nothing against a higher price Giotto, I am not cheep charly type,
however for me it needs to go along with a better experience to be justified and for sure doesn't go along with the location.

Beeing at Soi 33 instead of Soi Cowboy is not value added in my counter.
Value added is the type of women, how she looks, how she is around you, the service experience, the GFE level, Time spent together etc. This is what counts and I don't care if she comes from Livingstones, Nana or Beergarden ....
(Just to make my part clear: Take as a given that I am always nice to the girls I am with and get the extra 'service' and chemistry usually going along with this.)

However if your girls team gains reputation that the risk level in terms of bad experience is low, then its rather that we customers use the sports bar as a default for pickup then e.g. Nana, despite higher price level and barfine.
The same as Livingstones is my default for staying in Bangkok (alone), as your house and the concept is great.

Anyhow will visit your house as soon as I have a chance to come alone and have time to check the changes in the sports bar personally. (come tomorrow to Thailand, but with spouce)

greetings
Brain666

[QUOTE=Brain666]Nothing against a higher price Giotto, I am not cheep charly type,
however for me it needs to go along with a better experience to be justified and for sure doesn't go along with the location.

Beeing at Soi 33 instead of Soi Cowboy is not value added in my counter.
Value added is the type of women, how she looks, how she is around you, the service experience, the GFE level, Time spent together etc. This is what counts and I don't care if she comes from Livingstones, Nana or Beergarden ....
[/QUOTE]Brain666,

I basically agree. But:

Everybody defines a "better experience" differently. It's all about what specific expectation you have if you select a girl.

To optimize the "technique" aspect of a sexual experience it makes sense to look for somebody in massage parlours, Soi Cowboy, Soi Nana or the Sukhumvit area in general. Those girls have a higher milage and a lot more experience with farang customers.

We here in Livingstone's have no influence on what happens behind closed doors of a bedroom, and we also DO NOT WANT to get involved there. We can select girls which can entertain a man, can communicate, dance and make a man relax and smile - in our Sports Lounge or in the restaurant. We can teach them how to behave, how to dress, how to dance. That is what we can do - everything which comes afterwards is a very private event between those two, man and woman, and we don't want to get involved into that, under no circumstances.

I hope that clarifies the POV of Livingstone's Lodge's management.


Giotto

[QUOTE=Old Thai Hand]Hey G

Since you're running a "Parallel Universe" over here in which those who only rarely delve into the main Thai board seem to thrive and have a good time, I was wondering if you could start a Parallel Photo Gallery on which people could post decent pics without the smart-ass, manipulative editorializing of Cyberspace? (not to mention his gross, disgusting pics).

Just a thought. ;)[/QUOTE]Old Thai Hand,

though I admire your never ending fight for quality in the forum I consider it in this case to be appropriate to not get involved.

I don't want to get into the position as a photo gallery censor :) . I anyway do not post any pictures of girls.


Giotto

[QUOTE=Giotto]Brain666,

I basically agree. But:

Everybody defines a "better experience" differently. It's all about what specific expectation you have if you select a girl.

To optimize the "technique" aspect of a sexual experience it makes sense to look for somebody in massage parlours, Soi Cowboy, Soi Nana or the Sukhumvit area in general. Those girls have a higher milage and a lot more experience with farang customers.

We here in Livingstone's have no influence on what happens behind closed doors of a bedroom, and we also DO NOT WANT to get involved there. We can select girls which can entertain a man, can communicate, dance and make a man relax and smile - in our Sports Lounge or in the restaurant. We can teach them how to behave, how to dress, how to dance. That is what we can do - everything which comes afterwards is a very private event between those two, man and woman, and we don't want to get involved into that, under no circumstances.

I hope that clarifies the POV of Livingstone's Lodge's management.

Giotto[/QUOTE]For a guy whose native tongue is not English thats the perfect definition i experienced at your salubrious establishment. Right down to the dancing and this coming from a man born with two left feet. But heck it was enjoyable not like the drudgery back home Downunder. I have mailed Sonya some pics of our sanuk yai in Bangkok care of Livingstones. Could you make sure she gets them.

Choke dee

[QUOTE=Brain666]

Hmm, something which should be monitored more if the new mamasan drives up the price.
...
[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Giotto]

That's an interesting point - I am quite sure that she will try that. But as long as she is doing this realistically - she is even supported to do so by our management!

Giotto[/QUOTE]

"Realistically" is the key word. A certain balance has to be kept. If the girls ask for too much then clients will be put off and the girls will lose business. If the girls ask for too little then the place risks attracting the "cheap charlies" and other unfavorable sorts that will ruin the place for all of us.

I would suggest developing an "Idiot's Guide to Negotiating with Bargirls" instead of just accepting any price quoted. Brain666's numbers seem like a reasonable starting point for me, to be varied by such factors as chemistry, personality, physical, social and professional attractiveness.

Just wanted to add my comments to this interesting discussion.

Cheers,

F2

[QUOTE=Silly Fool]For a guy whose native tongue is not English thats the perfect definition i experienced at your salubrious establishment. Right down to the dancing and this coming from a man born with two left feet. But heck it was enjoyable not like the drudgery back home Downunder. I have mailed Sonya some pics of our sanuk yai in Bangkok care of Livingstones. Could you make sure she gets them.
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[/QUOTE]Silly Fool,

Thanks for your comment, I will take care that Sonya receives the pictures.

I remember you and Sonya, and that looked great for me. I am quite sure that you had a good time here in Bangkok. And that is what counts - for me.


Giotto

[QUOTE=SexWithSmile]Mr the President,

I request the approval to open a Livingstones branch in Jakarta.

It's a shithole currently under the water, but greeeaaatttt fun. We'll do a floating hotel, to be on the safe side.
...
[/QUOTE]SexWithSmile,

Permission granted. Floating Livingstone's in Jakarta...

Come on, man, give us an overview about your experiences with a detailed comparision between Thai and Indonesian women!


Giotto

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]I think this is exactly the type of behaviour that encourages the girls to try tricks on us. how can a bubbly BG before the barfine turn into a lady with stomach ache that can't fuck once you both have showered? because she knows she can get away with it.

[i](may happend in any bar in Bangkok, the persons in this dialogue are fictional)[/i]

Noi: Sawasdee Kha Tuk
Tuk: Sawasdee Kha Noi, Sabai dee mai Kha?
Noi: I very tired.... farang take me LT and make boom boom all night
Tuk: wow, me take Farang LT also but he let me go after ST
Noi: really? Farang come in my mouth, have sex many position, fuck my ass
Tuk: Fuck your ass?
Noi: Yes, now hurt a little bit, and tired, only sleep 2 hours
Tuk: Wow
Noi: And you?
Tuk: Farang stay in nice hotel, but I pretend I have pain in my stomach and cannot boom boom... he complain and I agree but after 15 second I tell him hurt too much... he finish Blowjob only
Noi: wow
Tuk: how much your farang pay you?
Noi: 2000, and you?
Tuk: 1500.
Noi: really?
Tuk: yes, next time make like me, farang will pay anyway!
...
[/QUOTE]NicFrenchy,

I can basically follow your logic - and discussions and experiences like this will definitely start a negative spiral in the behavior of those girls...

But - the real problem already starts before.

If a customer gives a provider the feeling that he only wants sex, special techniques, 5 times in 5 hours the girls will respond with higher service prices and service avoidance/minimization. If a man treats a woman like an object he will be treated as a buyer of an object.

The recommendation I give to our guests is:

Invest something into this woman, this experience, make the girl feel good, sit together, talk, have some drinks, eat together, go out and dance ... treat the girl like a lady, better like a queen - and you will get it back later in that night - and much much more than that!

An experience from last night:

A customer comes in and asks for a girl which can provide some special service for him - hmmm, let's say very special service. The requested service would not hurt the girl, but in a way humuliate her.

I did not even want to listen to this shit - this kind of games is something a man can usually develop with a longtime girlfriend, or one can go to special places (Demonia, BarBar) here in Bangkok where a service providers can be found for that. To expect that a Thai bar girl (expecially in a non-hardcore establishment) would agree on such a deal is already quite unrealistic. If a girl could be found she would only do that for one reason: Money! Everybody should be aware of that.

I sometimes think that this easy availibility for woman here in Thailand makes a good number of men to mutate into monsters, and their desire to experience everything what they cannot experience at home wins against their good education and behavior. I personally hate it to treat women like objects, but many men do here in Thailand.

I hope that those who do will have the same experience the other way around one day - to be treated like an object!

For Livingstone's I luckily can intervene - and I will show those customers the door in the future. Respect for women is something which is requested here in this place!


Giotto

[QUOTE=Giotto]Silly Fool,

Thanks for your comment, I will take care that Sonya receives the pictures.

I remember you and Sonya, and that looked great for me. I am quite sure that you had a good time here in Bangkok. And that is what counts - for me.

Giotto[/QUOTE]I add my thanks with Too Jaded- what nice people populate Livingstones-meaning punters as well as staff. And the aharn Thai (Thai cuisine)-
dont get me started. Just thinking about the pla tawd (deep fried snapper) is making my stomach growl. I may even try some farang food when i return but your tawd man pla (deep fried fish cakes) will never be bettered. Number neung (number!) Kop kun marg (thank you very much).

SF

[QUOTE=Jeff46]Just wonder. Why nobody tell Giotto? How good is cuisine. Went there. Great food.[/QUOTE]Jeff46,

Yep! Why nobody tell me??? I think the food is OK, getting more and more stabile, after a lot of training has been done.

Jeff46, come up with your report, please!


Giotto

[QUOTE=Giotto]I personally hate to treat women like objects, but many men do here in Thailand...

I hope that those who do will have the same experience the other way around one day - to be treated like an object![/QUOTE]Happens to me all the time, and I can tell ya, it's no fun. :(

;)

Gentlemen,

Perhaps some of you could enlighten me? I am heading to Bangkok in March for the first time, and know little about the scale of the geograhy in the area. I have been reading the forums for a long while now, and am wondering about the location of Livingstones in relation to many of the well known mongering sites.

I am coming for a 6 or 7 nights and I want to see as much of the area as I can. Kinda like field research for future trips!

Does it take long to get from Livingstones to Nana, Beergarden and Soi Cowboy? Is it an easy walk, or is public transport the way to go? If so, how late at night does the transport system run?

Would you reccomend staying the whole week there, or splitting it with another establishment at the other end of Sukhumvit?

I love the sound of Livingstones, and it was foremost in my mind when I decided to take this holiday. Just wondering now about the logistics.

Hoping you can help,

W

[QUOTE=Jeff46]Just wonder. Why nobody tell Giotto? How good is cuisine. Went there. Great food. But never touched the girls at sports loundge. Spend a good time relaxing from a spress of stupid chineese people. Report follow later.[/QUOTE]

Is english your native tongue....if you're going to write something stupid, at least try to spell correctly :(

To everyone else: Gong xi fa tsai...translation: happy new year.

[QUOTE=Piper1]Happens to me all the time, and I can tell ya, it's no fun. :(

;)[/QUOTE]Piperman,

Are you suffering Mrs. Wildcat :) ???


Giotto

Just wanted to give a quick report (my first in wsg) about my stay at the lodge. This was my second stay and once again have had (and am having) a great time. What I love about this joint is that everything is no hassles. Wake up late (ugh hangover) no problem breakfast is served whenever you want. The food is actually quite good. I love the beds, I travel a great deal for my job and is honestly one of the top beds I have slept in. I didnt like the pillows, make a mention of it to the boss and the pillows were changed.

Need a quick suggestion for a soapie? Ask the boss and away I go to a great time, come back squeeky clean. Bring a little cutie in take her up to the room no hassles.

All in all a magnificent time.

Thanks so much for a great stay Giotto!

Twisted Monkey

[QUOTE=Cougar 2]...
Does it take long to get from Livingstones to Nana, Beergarden and Soi Cowboy? Is it an easy walk, or is public transport the way to go? If so, how late at night does the transport system run?
...
[/QUOTE]Cougar 2,

Soi Cowboy is in walking distance (10 min.) - Soi Nana and Biergarten is 20 - 30 min. to walk, take the skytrain or a taxi and you get there within 10 min. - dry :) !

Whether to stay here all 7 days - just check it out and make your decision then. It is not a problem to bring in girls from Soi Nana or Biergarten - some people like their hotel to be a bit away from the action, in a more quiet area of Bangkok.

You don't even need to go to Soi Nana etc. , there is some action in Soi 33, too. But - the girls and the bar fines here are more expensive, and so is Livingstone's.

Hope this helps.


Giotto

[QUOTE=Giotto]SexWithSmile,

Permission granted. Floating Livingstone's in Jakarta...

Come on, man, give us an overview about your experiences with a detailed comparision between Thai and Indonesian women!


Giotto[/QUOTE]I am proud to announce the opening of the Jakarta Floating Livingstones (pending initial THB 20 millions investment by Giotto...).

Guests can expect typical Indonesian girls, who are exactly the same as the Thai girls except that they can swim. My favorite was a very short one, when she wore the bathrobe of the hotel you would only see her head and feet. Always smiling, she brought me her girl-friend for a little threesome, but that friend was totally inexperienced despite the detailed instructions of the first one. Still, it was good time for ridiculous prices there.

I am now in Mexico with a Mexican girl-friend. I must say the getting re-adjusted to the "normal" hips and size was quite a shock to me, and many times I am closing my eyes and dream about the small girls of SEA, including Livingstones.

[QUOTE=SexWithSmile]I am proud to announce the opening of the Jakarta Floating Livingstones (pending initial THB 20 millions investment by Giotto...).
[/QUOTE]
WTF? Is Thailand in Bangkok, too. :D

[QUOTE=SexWithSmile]I am proud to announce the opening of the Jakarta Floating Livingstones (pending initial THB 20 millions investment by Giotto...).
...[/QUOTE]SexWithSmile,

Hmm...seams to be a small misunderstanding here, I thought I give the name, and you give the money...


Giotto

Guys,

Let us talk a bit about what is [b]good[/b] - and what is not so [b]good[/b].

[b]Good[/b] is when you come to Bangkok or even to Livingstone's Lodge, enjoy your time, relax and have fun. Nothing to complain about.

Not so [b]good[/b] is to send SMS like this to Mrs. Giotto: [b]"Who is Giotto?"[/b]

What happens then is that Mrs. Giotto ask me who Giotto is. And for somebody who is not really familiar with websites like the ISG - it is difficult for me to give Mrs. Giotto the right answer then.

She then insists on knowing the website where I always post about her. She wants to read it. So - what do you expect me to do now? Give her the URL if the international[b][size=+2]sex[/size][/b]guide.com ??? Will be also not so easy to explain why I write here...

I don't know whether it is [b]good[/b] that you read my stories. I also don't know whether my stories are [b]good[/b]. But I know that it is NOT [b]GOOD[/b] if Mrs. Giotto knows about this USD 1,000.00 tip story a few hours after I published it in here.

Guy(s), I know, that some of you are seriously interested in developing a relationship with Mrs. Giotto. Please come here and try to do so, and play the game fair. Impress her with polite talking, invitations for a dinner (that doesn't need to be at Livingstone's) or go out dancing to a disco (I hate it, she likes it). Take your chance, and you might be successful - or may be not, who knows.

But if you go the way of telling her about what I write in here you will not succeed. I can easily turn this against you, if I want to. What is the name of the website you read ? Is all what you want only - sex ??? And then - she will NOT see you again when you come to Bangkok next time!

Remember - you got a brain to think. So make your choice.

And, guy(s), may be you decide to write something in this board, to add some value, instead of using the available information of others [who try to do so] to interfer in their private lives.


Giotto

PS:
A few days ago I saw another guy sitting with one of our girls in front of our internet workstation, reading ISG reports and looking at pictures. Now some girls ask me on which website I write about Livingstone's. Please, just give me the answer, what shall I tell those girls now?

[QUOTE=Giotto]Guys,

Let us talk a bit about what is [b]good[/b] - and what is not so [b]good[/b].

[b]Good[/b] is when you come to Bangkok or even to Livingstone's Lodge, enjoy your time, relax and have fun. Nothing to complain about.

Not so [b]good[/b] is to send SMS like this to Mrs. Giotto: [b]"Who is Giotto?"[/b]

What happens then is that Mrs. Giotto ask me who Giotto is. And for somebody who is not really familiar with websites like the ISG - it is difficult for me to give Mrs. Giotto the right answer then.

She then insists on knowing the website where I always post about her. She wants to read it. So - what do you expect me to do now? Give her the URL if the international[b][size=+2]sex[/size][/b]guide.com ??? Will be also not so easy to explain why I write here...

I don't know whether it is [b]good[/b] that you read my stories. I also don't know whether my stories are [b]good[/b]. But I know that it is NOT [b]GOOD[/b] if Mrs. Giotto knows about this USD 1,000.00 tip story a few hours after I published it in here.

Guy(s), I know, that some of you are seriously interested in developing a relationship with Mrs. Giotto. Please come here and try to do so, and play the game fair. Impress her with polite talking, invitations for a dinner (that doesn't need to be at Livingstone's) or go out dancing to a disco (I hate it, she likes it). Take your chance, and you might be successful - or may be not, who knows.

But if you go the way of telling her about what I write in here you will not succeed. I can easily turn this against you, if I want to. What is the name of the website you read ? Is all what you want only - sex ??? And then - she will NOT see you again when you come to Bangkok next time!

Remember - you got a brain to think. So make your choice.

And, guy(s), may be you decide to write something in this board, to add some value, instead of using the available information of others [who try to do so] to interfer in their private lifes.


Giotto

PS:
A few days ago I saw another guy sitting with one of our girls in front of our internet workstation, reading ISG reports and looking at pictures. Now some girls ask me on which website I write about Livingstone's. Please, just give me the answer, what shall I tell those girls now?[/QUOTE]

Envy is such a sad, pathetic emotion.

I'm really disappointed that some unfortunate wanker(s) spends his/their time trying to fuck up other people's lives instead of getting a life for themselves.

I'm a newbie and I was amazed at how welcoming you and others were when I visited late last year. It would be a real shame if you were forced to break the link between yourself, your business, and this forum simply because others are not able to show a certain level of restraint and instead act like dogs on heat.

Considering what some guy(s) are doing you're being remarkably measured in what you've said Giotto and that shows everyone on this board the difference between you and the individual(s) concerned.

Block the ISG url on the workstation concerned. If another monger thinks that's smart, well.... what a tw@t

[QUOTE=Giotto]

Guy(s), I know, that some of you are seriously interested in developing a relationship with Mrs. Giotto. Please come here and try to do so, and play the game fair. Impress her with polite talking, invitations for a dinner (that doesn't need to be at Livingstone's) or go out dancing to a disco (I hate it, she likes it). Take your chance, and you might be successful - or may be not, who knows.
[/QUOTE]

You've got to be frigging kidding me. I've met Mrs. G and she is a lovely and intelligent woman, heck I even spent a day in Ayuthaya with her. But my friendship with Giotto aside, I would never drink someone else's Kool-aid, especially someone who has given us as much as Giotto. I am friends with Mrs. G, I chase after only the others, there are so many to choose from.

[b]NEWS FLASH FOR ALL HOMEWRECKING ASSCLOWNS: There are plenty of women in Thailand for all of us!!!![/b] What the hell is wrong with you guys? You are not only making life tough for Giotto but you are also risking the destruction of my favorite favorite place in SEA.

But if you simply MUST be so low as to dine off another man's plate, do it with class and style. You've even been invited by your host to do so as a fair challenge; he has style and class. Hell, any man coming into my house to ruffle my woman's skirts would be met by the end of a shotgun, but I am a yankee cowboy. Giotto will serve you the house special and even give you advice while standing on his own merits.

As for you Giotto, I think she would understand you do it to help bring in customers. Tell her that is how you met me, I give you my permission. Explain that it complements what your mamasan does... with all the well-known establishments this is one way you help the business survive.

And take any bastards that are trying to sip your Kool-Aid, sabotage your marriage, and undermine your business out back of the hotel and beat them senseless. That kind of shit is just unforgivable, man.

Blocking ISG is a trivial matter, by the way. I can give you simple instructions on how to do this on that workstation via email, I believe that you and/or Mrs. G have it.

2J

Mr. Pimp,

Just read the last few posts and was compelled to write this:

What the hell are you doing with Ms. Giotto? As for the guys trying to get her well they seem to be rather scummy but then again she is one sexy woman.

So, to blame all the pervs wanting her is wrong. A woman is only available when she makes herself available. And, she is really available when her man allows it.

See you soon.

juices.

I have sat at the tables around the pool with G on many, many occasions. I have heard him tell me in person about the jerk offs who send SMS to Mrs. G. I have heard him tell me stories about guys who hit on Mrs. G. I have spent many evenings, chatting with Mrs. G, who is just pure delight. I have even gone to dinner with there and the ex mamasan, once the bar closed. Not once, EVER, have I considered making any attempt at seducing Mrs. G.
The best thing that could happen, if a guy seriously made an attempt to seduce her, by revealing stories about what goes on behind the scenes, is that Mrs. G would politely rebuke him.
The worst thing that could happen, is the closing down of the G thread, as G's hands would be tied.
So , what is there to gain? Absolutely nothing. To all of you out there, who are the ones to whom G is referring to, I say, as politely as possible, give it up, you will never have this lady, and stop making problems for everyone else. If this were not G's thread, who is a close personal friend of mine, I would curse you all the way to Sunday, but out of respect, I will just say that you are being rude, selfish, and destructive.
This thread is a positive thing in the shit that is the Thailand thread. Please ensure it remains so.
Thank you.

Some people are idiots and try to destroy things.

The answer for you, in my opinon, is simply to set-up a separate web-site called something like: Livingstone's Lodge (make it slightly different than your own) with pictures from yours, information etc etc -copied over. To this just add a Column for your comments and those of trusted guests who you allow to sign on.

Fill it up with ramblings taken from "other websites" and then just add your thought of the week, once a week . Will take a couple of hundred dollars maximum to set-up and host. The when "anyone" inquires about your wrting about the Lodge simply point them to that one or show them.

Should satisfy those who are inquiring.

I still don't understand how someone would think that showing Mrs G ISG is a way to get intimate with her. There would have to be other motives.

At least one of the girls I've taken from the Sports Bar knows about the site, as she asked me to show her the pics I posted of her several months earlier. I didn't. I simply replied that I didn't show her face, and she was happy with the explanation.

Point is, the girls talk, so I'm sure they all know about the site.

If you know who this person is sounds like you need to have a face to fist talk wiith him.

[QUOTE=Giotto]Guys,

Let us talk a bit about what is [b]good[/b] - and what is not so [b]good[/b].

[b]Good[/b] is when you come to Bangkok or even to Livingstone's Lodge, enjoy your time, relax and have fun. Nothing to complain about.

Not so [b]good[/b] is to send SMS like this to Mrs. Giotto: [b]"Who is Giotto?"[/b]

What happens then is that Mrs. Giotto ask me who Giotto is. And for somebody who is not really familiar with websites like the ISG - it is difficult for me to give Mrs. Giotto the right answer then.

She then insists on knowing the website where I always post about her. She wants to read it. So - what do you expect me to do now? Give her the URL if the international[b][size=+2]sex[/size][/b]guide.com ??? Will be also not so easy to explain why I write here...

I don't know whether it is [b]good[/b] that you read my stories. I also don't know whether my stories are [b]good[/b]. But I know that it is NOT [b]GOOD[/b] if Mrs. Giotto knows about this USD 1,000.00 tip story a few hours after I published it in here.

Guy(s), I know, that some of you are seriously interested in developing a relationship with Mrs. Giotto. Please come here and try to do so, and play the game fair. Impress her with polite talking, invitations for a dinner (that doesn't need to be at Livingstone's) or go out dancing to a disco (I hate it, she likes it). Take your chance, and you might be successful - or may be not, who knows.

But if you go the way of telling her about what I write in here you will not succeed. I can easily turn this against you, if I want to. What is the name of the website you read ? Is all what you want only - sex ??? And then - she will NOT see you again when you come to Bangkok next time!

Remember - you got a brain to think. So make your choice.

And, guy(s), may be you decide to write something in this board, to add some value, instead of using the available information of others [who try to do so] to interfer in their private lives.

Giotto

PS:
A few days ago I saw another guy sitting with one of our girls in front of our internet workstation, reading ISG reports and looking at pictures. Now some girls ask me on which website I write about Livingstone's. Please, just give me the answer, what shall I tell those girls now?[/QUOTE]

There's nothing wrong with fantasizing about a woman and what it would be like to pursue her, but if she's taken, keep_it_inside_your_head. We're all brothers by common interest here and we stay at Giotto's as guests. As it was stated before, there are plenty of willing girls here. Have a some respect for your brother and host.

On another note, I am more than a little curious how this fellow got Mrs. G's mobile number and is familiar enough to be sending her SMS. Something is amiss here.

Giotto, I wish you luck and hope you put an end to this guy's interference fast, hard and cleanly.

[b]i am the real giotto[/b].

for far too long i have remained hidden in the shadow of our giant friend you all thought was giotto. my recent trip to thailand last month was in fact my descent upon my sukhumvit stormtroopers to investigate the delay in rolling out my new dinner menu. [i]the very key to my plans for world domination[/i].

you thought the giotto you all knew was the real giotto? the giotto you don't know is in fact the giotto you thought you knew and not the giotto you know. there can be only one! the fake giotto [b]is not even american, he is european![/b] how offensive that you all thought i could be a [i]european[/i], with their extensive rooted history, superior wine (restored with american grapestock in the 19th century following the insect plague), and their shitty cheeses! if there is anything the bush administration has shown the world is that following my beloved cold war the usa has superceded any of the old-world regimes and is now the dominant force for imperial fascism! hoohoohaha!

we'll crush those euroscum under our halliburton manufactured jackboots, trampling the remains of all those failed regimes... we'll drive them out pattaya and phuket and take all of the thai spinnerettes for ourselves and create a new genetically superior generation of stormtroopers, hoohoohaha!

[b]we must not allow a thai spinner gap![/b]

...and my nerve center shall be livingstones!

so you see, mrs. g, the man you are married to is not the man you were told he was. he is just a highly efficient, industrialized uber-pawn for the ducks. [i]ducks with frickin' laser beams attached to the heads![/i] think of him as my [i]mini-me[/i], only in a sad irony much taller, better looking, and wealthier. the cost of world domination is actually quite expensive and has forced me to take on a significant amount of debt, thus lowering my net worth considerably... but i am a millionaire on paper.... until i crush the european banking system, and it's illuminatus underpinnings!!!

and to my would-be home-wrecking nemeses, you will all be crushed! cough, gollum!!!! gollum!!!

[blue][b][i]the real giotto[/i][/b][/blue]

p.s. extra points for anyone who can identify all the movie references used above. hoohoohahaha! ;)

[QUOTE=Fun Times69]Block the ISG url on the workstation concerned. If another monger thinks that's smart, well.... what a tw@t[/QUOTE]

G,

Block the ISG URL throughout your establishment. I am sure all your loyal patrons who choose to live life above board will support you. I know I will, even though I barely qualify as someone who lives life above the board.

I mean, as you know I've got the same problem as you do with my own wife. And as you also know, she is sometimes inclined to accept such offers. I guess this has certain advantages because I will soon be living in a brand new house that was most graciously provided by one of her scum-sucking admirers.

I guess I am going to have to get a divorce or get used to the idea of existing somewhat like a pimp. I thought the divorce was actually going to occur last week, but it fell apart after arriving at the amphur in her Toyota.

I got out of the car but she would not follow me. So I got back in the car and asked, "Can you give me one good reason why we should not divorce right now?!" She didn't say anything and just looked out the window with a far-a-way look in her eye. Then I had an idea so I said, "Because you love me too much la?"

At that she turned her eyes directly at mine and as she began to cry said, "Yes." So . . .

I guess I am still married with my wife and a new house and oh yeah, I only found out about the Toyota on Valentines Day. This girl is quite a clever one. I didn't have a clue that she had a car for the last eight months. This is hurting my ego because I once thought I was clever. :(

On the other hand, maybe I am clever. How many guys can say their Thai girl friend gave them 35,000 baht spending money during the month of February? :)

poster

P.S. If you are later so inclined you can install a trusted patron's list or some sort of privacy control for those that want to look at your thread when inside their hotel room.

[QUOTE=PosterLion]G,

Block the ISG URL throughout your establishment. I am sure all your loyal patrons who choose to live life above board will support you. I know I will, even though I barely qualify as someone who lives life above the board.

[/QUOTE]

I must respectfully disagree, I for one would [b]not[/b] be happy if I could not access ISG from the privacy of my room on my own laptop. I do not have all the places memorized, and I enjoy being able to collaborate with the other mongers as my trip unfolds. Of course, I could easily circumvent it with my Tor proxy. But that is not the point.

There is only one public computer there. Simply edit the file C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\DRIVERS\ETC\HOSTS and add the line

127.0.0.1 [url]www.internationalsexguide.info[/url] internationalsexguide.info

Then you just make the file read-only and make it so that only Administrator can edit the file. This basically makes prevents requests to find the ISG website from leaving the computer. You'll want to reboot the computer though because the DNS lookups are cached.

A simple hack that gets the job done. And only on that one computer, no need to punish the guests.

2J

[QUOTE=Too Jaded][i]The very key to my plans for world domination[/i].[/QUOTE]

You're an obvious imposter because:

1) the real Giotto dominated the world a long time ago from a different although smaller country

2) Livingstone's Lodge is merely a hobby that the real Giotto took up after dominating the world

3) it never occured to me the real Giotto was European. But then again, I'm more or less color blind. ;)

P . . .

[QUOTE=PosterLion]You're an obvious imposter because:

1) the real Giotto dominated the world a long time ago from a different although smaller country[/QUOTE]

He is just a convincing sock-puppet, his accent makes him a convincing double for any fascist dictator. Now, for your insolence, you must die!

Odd Job: Liquidate him immediately!!! HOOHAHAHA!

P.S. Okay, I am finished now. My attempts to hijack this thread for a ransom of 100 billion dollars have been thwarted... for now. :D

[QUOTE=Too Jaded]Now, for your insolence, you must die![/QUOTE]

Please let me live until I've spent the allowance my wife gave me this month. :)

[QUOTE=PosterLion]Please let me live until I've spent the allowance my wife gave me this month. :)[/QUOTE]

Don't worry, I'll simply place you in an overly elaborate and easily escapable situation, and leave with my cronies and just [i]assume[/i] that you died after I told you in great detail my entire plan for world domination.

You will be surrounded by stupid guards that only attack one at a time and will be oblivious to your successful escape attempt until it is too late.

When all is said and done and you have vanquished me, you will have an opportunity to spend all your allowance and bed some easily seducable Chinese double agent against the backdrop of my crumbling moon-base.

Have fun!

Hmm...real Giotto's and wifes allowences...

The thread seams to be back to what it should be: a fun thread.

Well done, my friends, I will post later, too many things are happening here in the moment.

Thanks for all your support.


Giotto

[QUOTE=Too Jaded]You will be surrounded by stupid guards that only attack one at a time and will be oblivious to your successful escape attempt until it is too late.[/QUOTE]

Finally! A version of Doom I have a chance at wining. This latest development has opened my eyes and now . . . now i see the light!

it's time to stop flattering myself. I'm not clever, in fact, I've never been clever. And that's 100 percent okay with me. I'd rather swallow my pride and admit the humble truth about how I got to where I am in the current re-iteration of my life.

And the great and noble truth is nothing at all. I have absolutely no idea. I've thought about this very thing for practically my entire life. I can recall very clear vivid images of myself pondering what it was that I really did to get from the past to the present since I was five years old.

And the only answer that I can ever establish with any certainty is that I simply did those things that were plainly in front of me to do at any given particular time and I still can't think of any instance in my life that breaks that pattern.

In summary, my life is water. Water is only metaphor I can come up with that singularly explains my life. I simply go where I can go when I have the gumption to go anywhere and I have that gumption almost all the time. At least when I'm not caught in an eddy or trapped behind a damn that is.

I reckon all I've got left to consider is one day I'll look up and find myself crossing on over a delta just in time to spill into the ocean. :)

This is my first report in this thread. I am apologizing for my bad school english.

I was thinking long time where I should stay overnight in Bangkok. After reading many posts I decided me for Livingstones. I couldn't make a better decision. I am now here since 5 days and got some impressions here. The whole area is excellent, both my room and the restaurant, the Sportsbar and the pool. To stay here is worth every Euro. Here I can really relaxe after an exhausting day (or night). The service is great and all of the personal is very kindly and helpful if I needed somewhat. The Ladies in the Sportsbar in the evening are nice and so kindly, some real beautiful you can find.

I had dinner two time there - very delicious. One time excellent fish and prawns, the other time original German "Roulades". After 18 days of only Thai, Chinese and other Asian food it was a welcome variety and surprise for me.

I can really recommend to stay here and enjoy days and nights.

I will write soon a detailed report about my experiences in the Bangkok Forum

[QUOTE=Fun Times69]Envy is such a sad, pathetic emotion.
...
Considering what some guy(s) are doing you're being remarkably measured in what you've said Giotto and that shows everyone on this board the difference between you and the individual(s) concerned.
[/QUOTE]Fun Times69,

I don't think that all that has anything to do with envy. It is more an reaction on expectations which are not fulfilled. The easy access to girls here in Thailand make some men believe, that all girls are available for money - but they are not.

Simple confrontation or escalation also makes no sense in this case. Those guy(s) must understand the problem which can be caused by this behavior, otherwise he/they will not stop.


Giotto

[QUOTE=Too Jaded]...[b]NEWS FLASH FOR ALL HOMEWRECKING ASSCLOWNS: There are plenty of women in Thailand for all of us!!!![/b] What the hell is wrong with you guys? You are not only making life tough for Giotto but you are also risking the destruction of my favorite favorite place in SEA.
...
Blocking ISG is a trivial matter, by the way. I can give you simple instructions on how to do this on that workstation via email, I believe that you and/or Mrs. G have it.[/QUOTE]Too Jaded,

A good message, but as I wrote in the Stories section, many guys want especially those ladies who do NOT go with customers. After a while of easy access to women here in Thailand this girls wake up the hunter in a man...

Blocking the ISG is not an option. Our customers must be able to write reports for getting the ISG discount.

Don't worry too much, up to now I had to send this statements from time to time, and it worked quite well. This website cannot destroy Livingstone's, but if Livingstone's shall be a joint for ISG readers and an easys option to find friends with the same hobby - the readers should follow some basic rules. Otherwise I will have to retire from the board one day, to avoid further problems.


Giotto

[QUOTE=Twisted Monkey]...All in all a magnificent time.

Thanks so much for a great stay Giotto!
...[/QUOTE]Twisted Monkey,

Welcome to the board, thank you for your first report. And for staying at Livingstone's Lodge.

I think you had a good time here. We used you as Livingstone's watch: Every day at 10:15 pm you left for Suzie Wong's...BESTARD!!! You left our poor girls unsatisfied...

Hope to see you back here soon.


Giotto

[QUOTE=Giotto]many guys want especially those ladies who do NOT go with customers[/QUOTE]

There are plenty of those ladies as well, probably 99.9% of Thai women are not working girls, so no need to steal off your plate. But even if these dregs cannot resist Mrs. G's obvious charms, they can at least do it with class and not play such childish games as using the ISG as some type of misguided attack on you.

2J

[QUOTE=JuiceSpike]Mr. Pimp,
...
What the hell are you doing with Ms. Giotto? As for the guys trying to get her well they seem to be rather scummy but then again she is one sexy woman.

So, to blame all the pervs wanting her is wrong. A woman is only available when she makes herself available. And, she is really available when her man allows it.[/QUOTE]Juicy Mouse,

Where the hell have you been all the weeks before? Happy that you are still alive...

As usual an different POV from you - interesting statement about the availibility of women. Complete nonsense though. But interesting nonsense. The surprising reality in Thailand is that many men loose it and expect all women to be available...come on, man, you know that.

Move your arse over here. Hope to C U soon.


Giotto

[QUOTE=Excess]Some people are idiots and try to destroy things.
...
[/QUOTE]Excess,

LOL, no, it is not even that. All that does not really happen with the purpose of destoying anything - those people don't think so far.

They are determined by their own small world, and the small brain has taken over control of their actions.

It is as simple as that. With my reaction here I just try to keep this development under control, it's nothing more than that.



Giotto

[QUOTE=Too Jaded]He is just a convincing sock-puppet, his accent makes him a convincing double for any fascist dictator. Now, for your insolence, you must die!

Odd Job: Liquidate him immediately!!! HOOHAHAHA!

P.S. Okay, I am finished now. My attempts to hijack this thread for a ransom of 100 billion dollars have been thwarted... for now. :D[/QUOTE]Would this make you Dr Evil or Dr Penival?

I would hope you still have some funding left for the ducks with frickin laser beams on their heads.

Well I've just about completed my first trip to Bangkok and I am very happy to say that my stay at Livingston's Lodge has been great! The staff have been very friendly and helpful in giving me directions and tips on how to navigate this city. They have also booked excusions for me to Ayutthaya, the previous capital of Thailand and the River Kwai. The cost of each is about $50US for a whole day excursion. The hotel is within walking distance of a BTS sky train station. I think most new comers fail to understand the importance of such proximity to public transportation here. Traffic is a nightmare and subways and sky trains make moving about the city affordable, convient and time saving. Each morning breakfast was fast and delicious. I pretty much stuck with the OJ, coffee, toast and omlette which is made to order anytime.

The first night I arrived, it was late and the mama san who is fluent in English was very helpful and straightforward in helping me select a girl from their local collection. As I had arrived in from a long flight and was very tired I spoke with Som and asked her to help me find a girl who would give me a massage to help work out some of the kinks in my neck and back after being trapped on a plane for so long. The girl was awesome in all aspects and everything was great.

I would highly recommend Livingston's Lodge to any first timer (or longer timer) coming to Bangkok.

G man,

Not at all a different point of view just comon sense. Obviously you didn't get it my point. You cannot blame the pervs if a your woman or any woman wants to make herself available. This counts for the entire world not just Thailand. I thought you knew about women. For your information men can only follow the signals a woman sends them whether they are making themselves available or not. Of course you have some assholes which will try to fuck anything they can available or not available.

In your case it may be a denial issue. :)

Easy does it.

juices

[QUOTE=JuiceSpike]Not at all a different point of view just comon sense. Obviously you didn't get it my point. You cannot blame the pervs if a your woman or any woman wants to make herself available. This counts for the entire world not just Thailand. I thought you knew about women. For your information men can only follow the signals a woman sends them whether they are making themselves available or not. Of course you have some assholes which will try to fuck anything they can available or not available.[/QUOTE]Juicy Mouse,

Common sense. I don't blame anybody, no, really not. I just try to keep in control of further developments.

But I am sure, I have NO IDEA about women, and I will never understand them :) !

Let's have a beer!

Giotto

Comon sense can go a long way. BTW, you can call me a rat but not a mouse.
Make the correction and I will think about stopping by... :)

juicy rat

[QUOTE=JuiceSpike]Comon sense can go a long way. BTW, you can call me a rat but not a mouse.
Make the correction and I will think about stopping by... :)...
[/QUOTE]Juicy Mouse,

Sorry, cannot. Rat has this negative touch, cannot use that in the hospitality business. It also discribes your real character, and you know I cannot write about the truth here in this thread :) .

So, if not stopping by because of me, then may be because of the


[b][size=+2]Swimming Pool Party[/b][/size]

[b][size=+1]Today, 7 pm !!![/size]

- Fashion Show
- Thai Dancing
- Free Snack Buffet[/b]

I forgot to advertise that earlier, what lousy marketing manager I am.


Giotto

I see now you got a little pissy because I commented on your board. You can call me whatever you want but it will not take away the fact that you are very sensitive to others making comments about your "personal" life.

I will not comment anymore.

Maybe the forum is the wrong place to comment about the pervs chasing your wife?

juices

[QUOTE=JuiceSpike]I see now you got a little pissy because I commented on your board. You can call me whatever you want but it will not take away the fact that you are very sensitive to others making comments about your "personal" life.

I will not comment anymore.

Maybe the forum is the wrong place to comment about the pervs chasing your wife?
...
[/QUOTE]Juicy Rat,

Oh my god, what happened? I think I take all that much easier than you think :) .


Giotto

[QUOTE=Giotto]Juicy Rat, Oh my god, what happened? I think I take all that much easier than you think. :) Giotto[/QUOTE]Seems to be a small understanding, probably due to English not being G's first language. Or am I missing something here?

[QUOTE=Piper1]Seems to be a small understanding, probably due to English not being G's first language. Or am I missing something here?[/QUOTE]Pipeman,

Don't know, do I mix up rats and mice here?

Whatever...I am quite sure we can settle the problem with the first beer which is on me, of course.


Giotto

G,

I was testing your English and you failed or my sense of humor is really fucked up. I don't drink beer anymore only gin and tonics.

See you soon... :D

juices

[QUOTE=JuiceSpike]...I was testing your English and you failed or my sense of humor is really fucked up. I don't drink beer anymore only gin and tonics.
...[/QUOTE]JuiceSpike (Rat or Mouse),

DAMNED! You BESTARD!!!! I really try to learn English...and they promise to me in all the massage parlours that they will teach me :) .

And this is the result now.

Gin and Tonic! Yikes :) .


Giotto

(PS: I have ONE BOTTLE of Gin here. You bring the tonic. Can make it the other way around, too, but I have this one bottle of Gin. So, bring that damned tonic water over here, otherwise I will drink the Gin pure!!!)

[QUOTE=JuiceSpike]G,

I was testing your English and you failed or my sense of humor is really fucked up. I don't drink beer anymore only gin and tonics.

See you soon... :D

juices[/QUOTE]Juices - Gin and Tonic is a girlie drink. It's Giotto's favorite drink, so you two should get along just fine. ROTF.

[QUOTE=Piper1]Juice - Gin and Tonic is a girlie drink. G&T is Giotto's favorite drink, so you two should get on just fine. ROTF.[/QUOTE]Pipeman,

Can you please shut ut, this is a serious talk between grown-up men!

You never drink Gin and Tonic, how can you know - anything???

BTW: Fon told me she forgot you already, she has a new lover, SUPERMAN...

Obviously not you! (Now you got it!)


Giotto

Ok - I'll be good and shut up. I'm looking forward to reading about the advenures of Superman, as I try and sip a girlie G&T. Blaaah! :D

what a bunch of biatches... :D

G&T is not a girlie drink! (is it really...?)

Alright, I will bring the tonic and some girls too. Yours are too ugly... :D

juices

[QUOTE=JuiceSpike]...
Alright, I will bring the tonic and some girls too. Yours are too ugly... :D
...[/QUOTE]JuiceSpike,

You can talk bad about my English and Gin Tonic - BUT NOT ABOUT OUR GIRLS.

We have a very good selection right now - and of course we will HIDE all beautiful ones once you enter the bar, to protect their innocence ... that's my duty, isn't it :) ?



Giotto

G,

Of course you have very nice girls, probably some of the best on Soi 33. I also like the way you have trained them not to be pests with customers which many guys prefer.

But I also think your business is not living up to its potential.

BTW, who ever is giving you PR advice you should fire. :D

juices

[QUOTE=JuiceSpike]...BTW, who ever is giving you PR advice you should fire.
...[/QUOTE]JuiceSpike,

Please discuss this directly with Mr. Marketing Director!

(Hell, I am out of it :) ).


Giotto

the duck visited us 3 weeks ago, still not willing to give up. europe is boring, and it is always raining, and she is sitting alone there in her apartment. but she has a bicycle now, and explores her new hometown.

we wished her good lucked and sent her back to europe. expecting here back in 3 months - and the she will most likely stay here.

but good (or is it bad) news: starlet is back to work. after coming to the bar last week (and immediately [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord125][CodeWord125][/url] one of our customers) she decided to give up her boring life as a house wife waiting for - i don't know what.

let's wait and see how things will develop.


giotto

[QUOTE=Member #3060]...
I would highly recommend Livingston's Lodge to any first timer (or longer timer) coming to Bangkok.[/QUOTE]Member #3060,

Thanks for your report. It was a pleasure for us to have you staying with us.

For all members arriving late: If we know that you come in late and you are tired from the flight and need a massage - we can make the necessary arrangement for you! A PM to me will do.


Giotto

[QUOTE=German Oak]...I can really recommend to stay here and enjoy days and nights.

I will write soon a detailed report about my experiences in the Bangkok Forum[/QUOTE]German Oak,

Welcome to the board. And thank you for your statement in this thread, now we are waiting for your detailed report in the Bangkok thread.

Good to hear that everything worked fine for you. But despite all positive feedbacks in the moment I want to add, that it still is far from perfect here. Still a long way to go for us.

But we try our best.

C U soon back in Livingstone's, Siem Reap is waiting :) !


Giotto

[QUOTE=Giotto]JuiceSpike,

Please discuss this directly with Mr. Marketing Director!

(Hell, I am out of it :) ).

Giotto[/QUOTE]

I will advise you of my next site audit for G's place and we can discuss your ideas. ;)

[quote=giotto]
but good (or is it bad) news: starlet is back to work. after coming to the bar last week (and immediately [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord125][CodeWord125][/url] one of our customers) she decided to give up her boring life as a house wife waiting for - i don't know what.

let's wait and see how things will develop.


giotto[/quote]

most assuredly bad news for some poor unsuspecting guy who will fall under her spell. but then he will really enjoy it for a brief period until he realizes how many other guys are under her spell.

any sign of the husband? lets hope he doesn't come looking for her. that could make for some interesting drama. but then he must be feeling like the complete fool by now.

Giotto,

Sorry but going to the lesbian show was the only schedule I had. A man has to have some structure in his life. Next time I am going to invite the lesbian show back to the hotel and charge admittance to my room. By the way, please send my regards to my fellow american and new found drinking compatriot. Hope he eventually awakened after a night of Suzie Wong's then off to the grubby siamese twins bar. I think he got a chuckle from the tequila shot done off my cock where the salt went down the hole I was screaming bloody murder.

I think he should still be there enjoying the hell out of himself. I am stuck in KL right now but it could be worse.

For some reason the girls at the Lodge seemed to think I was a bit of a butterfly with my wanderings and pool friends. However I have some picks to try out for next time.

Thanks again and see you soon,

Twisted Monkey

[QUOTE=Giotto]Twisted Monkey,

Welcome to the board, thank you for your first report. And for staying at Livingstone's Lodge.

I think you had a good time here. We used you as Livingstone's watch: Every day at 10:15 pm you left for Suzie Wong's...BESTARD!!! You left our poor girls unsatisfied...

Hope to see you back here soon.


Giotto[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Thor93]...Any sign of the husband? Lets hope he doesn't come looking for her. That could make for some interesting drama. But then he must be feeling like the complete fool by now.[/QUOTE]Thor93,

LOL, I knew you would comment on that.

No sign of the husband, but a lot of romours...nothing I want to write about here in this thread.


Giotto

[QUOTE=Giotto]Thor93,

LOL, I knew you would comment on that.

No sign of the husband, but a lot of romours...nothing I want to write about here in this thread.


Giotto[/QUOTE]

Well, lets take bets on how long before she finds another guy who wants to remove her from the working girl life. My guess is not more than a couple of months. She really is easy to fall for and, as you said, she knows how to work a guy.

Hellooooooo!
It sure is quiet in here. Time to get my evil genius here to take over the Lodge and the dungeon, take the mamasan and the stable of girls. :D

Now, where's the Veep when you need him? And the Marketing Director?

[QUOTE=Duniawala]Hellooooooo!
It sure is quiet in here. Time to get my evil genius here to take over the Lodge and the dungeon, take the mamasan and the stable of girls. :D

Now, where's the Veep when you need him? And the Marketing Director?[/QUOTE]Sir,

Yes, you are right. Too quiet here, I am too busy.

I have to relax and write a little bit again :) ...


Giotto

[QUOTE=Duniawala]Hellooooooo!
It sure is quiet in here. Time to get my evil genius here to take over the Lodge and the dungeon, take the mamasan and the stable of girls. :D

Now, where's the Veep when you need him? And the Marketing Director?[/QUOTE]

Sorry guys, I've been up to my ears in work. In fact, still in Asia (35 days and counting) and twice had to cancel flights home at last minute. And very little time for the more important things in life:)

Good news is I hope to be back out end of this month (assuming I get home first to get new change of clothes)....

giotto,

i haven't been on the board much due to travel and lack of internet access but i am looking forward to visiting the lodge and meeting some of these girls that you accuse of [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord125][CodeWord125][/url] the customers. i haven't really been raped before, it could be fun having an agressive partner :-)

looking forward to buying you a drink in a couple weels and chatting about thailand and europe.

cheers

pit

Hello,, all, long time (occasional) lurker here. I visited Giotto's lodge the first week of February after briefly browsing though this forum. I was introduced to Giotto via Traveller1234, who saw me sitting by myself.- as a newbie, I didn't know the game. It was great to meet both of them, as they were really friendly, and gave some good advice. The girls here are really friendly, most were pretty (some were really hot), and not pushy at all. I really enjoyed their company, and really wished I could have stayed longer. There was one girl I saw there who danced really sexy, like a "real" gogo dancer. I didn't catch her name but I definitely want to hook up with her next time! : D I ended up barfining two girls on successive nights. The first one didn't pan out, but the second one was great (thanks Traveller1234). Anyways, that's my 2 cents. An interesting aside is that I share the same name as Giotto, albeit with a slightly different spelling. I hope to visit again soon! It's freezing here at home, brrrrr.

[QUOTE=Yomurphy]Hello,, all, long time (occasional) lurker here. I visited Giotto's lodge the first week of February after briefly browsing though this forum. I was introduced to Giotto via Traveller1234, who saw me sitting by myself.- as a newbie, I didn't know the game. It was great to meet both of them, as they were really friendly, and gave some good advice. The girls here are really friendly, most were pretty (some were really hot), and not pushy at all. I really enjoyed their company, and really wished I could have stayed longer. There was one girl I saw there who danced really sexy, like a "real" gogo dancer. I didn't catch her name but I definitely want to hook up with her next time! : D I ended up barfining two girls on successive nights. The first one didn't pan out, but the second one was great (thanks Traveller1234). Anyways, that's my 2 cents. An interesting aside is that I share the same name as Giotto, albeit with a slightly different spelling. I hope to visit again soon! It's freezing here at home, brrrrr.[/QUOTE]
Yomurphy,

welcome to the forum, and thanks for your first report.

Really friendly? Me? Traveler1234??? Are you sure you really met us :) ?


Giotto

[quote=passinthrough]...i haven't been on the board much due to travel and lack of internet access but i am looking forward to visiting the lodge and meeting some of these girls that you accuse of [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord125][CodeWord125][/url] the customers. i haven't really been raped before, it could be fun having an agressive partner :-)
[/quote]passinthrough,

ouch ... never been raped, but looking forward to it - you have no idea what you are talking about.

you will think you have done your duty, and it is time to sleep, but then you will see the eye of a tiger asking the question: "what, that was all?" and the only thing you really want - is to sleep!!!

don't come downstairs and complaint to me next day :) !


giotto

[QUOTE=Thor93]Well, lets take bets on how long before she finds another guy who wants to remove her from the working girl life. My guess is not more than a couple of months. She really is easy to fall for and, as you said, she knows how to work a guy.[/QUOTE]Thor93,

The eyes are still same before, and the smile is there, too - but she added at least 5 kg during the last 2 months ...

I think we need you here for some training- and weight control activities :) !


Giotto

As I like to say there is time enough to sleep when I am dead :-) Now that said you are right I don't know what I am getting myself into, but that is half the fun.

See you soon.

PIT

[QUOTE=Giotto]Thor93,

The eyes are still same before, and the smile is there, too - but she added at least 5 kg during the last 2 months ...

I think we need you here for some training- and weight control activities :) !


Giotto[/QUOTE]

Escaping once intact is all the lesson I need. I am sure you can find a suitable trainer. Shame about that 5 kgs. That just might move her off of the "A" list.

[QUOTE=PassinThrough]As I like to say there is time enough to sleep when I am dead :-) Now that said you are right I don't know what I am getting myself into, but that is half the fun. ...[/QUOTE]PassinThrough,

LOL! You don't know what you are talking about. You will definitely want to sleep after the first rounds - and then the adventure starts.

You will wish you were dead...let's wait for the outcome :).

See you soon here at Livingstone's Lodge!


Giotto

[QUOTE=Thor93]Escaping once intact is all the lesson I need. I am sure you can find a suitable trainer. Shame about that 5 kgs. That just might move her off of the "A" list.[/QUOTE]Thor93,

Correct. Somehow still attractive, but ...

Anyway, not your business any more. There is this queue of guys waiting in the Lodge, and up to now I protected your rights - now I will open the gates :) !


Giotto

Not so much time recently to write reports. I hope it will get better soon.

We are very much busy with administrational work in the moment, it seams that the burocracy here in Thailand is getting worse and worse. Paperwork for social security, revenue department etc. etc. . And then the extension of the work permits - oh my god. They have all papers already many times, but every time we apply the labour department wants a new set of copies of all documents. And - they always find new issues to check, and ask for additional information - and papers.

Business is steady but relatively quiet. Fridays are very good days for the restaurant and the Sports Lounge, and surprisingly Mondays. That is a new activity pattern, we haven't seen that in the last year. Obviously the expats (the main visitors of the read) go basically out on those days. The hotels in Bangkok are NOT fully booked, but Pattaya is said to be overloaded with tourists.

I am off for Singapore today, and it was a huge problem to book a hotel there. A congress or something - hotels in Singapore are fully booked. I hope that happens in Bangkok soon, too :) .

The development in the Sports Lounge keeps me smiling. The new mamasan requests disciplin from the girls, and they don't like it. Why not sitting for hours behind the bar, smoking and chatting with friends. Why not? What does this damned Mamasan want from us?

Funny, if they followed this Mamasan, and learn how to work, how to deal with customers - they would make much more money! Some got that already, but others still prefer to lazy around behind the bar - and risk to fight with the Mamasan. Good, that I don't have to deal with all that.

That's it for the moment, I am off for the airport. I hope business stays stabile, and the stock markets don't cause more problems. Thailand does not need that, they can create their own problems - easily.


Giotto

[QUOTE=Giotto] I am off for Singapore today, and it was a huge problem to book a hotel there.

Giotto[/QUOTE]I was expecting to see you... Perhaps your absence could allow the Sports Lounge residents cheer more, effectively relaxed. Who knows the new mamasan is not the lady you think you knew.
I will report anyway you come before weekend.

Masum

[QUOTE=Masum Timsah]I was expecting to see you... Perhaps your absence could allow the Sports Lounge residents cheer more, effectively relaxed. Who knows the new mamasan is not the lady you think you knew.
I will report anyway you come before weekend.

Masum[/QUOTE]Masum Timsah,

I am back. Mamasan? Who is she?


Giotto

I needed to stay at a different hotel this trip, as I was meeting up with some newbies from indo, who are on a strict budget, and wanted us all to stay in the same hotel. So be it.
They left yesterday morning, sufficiently impressed, so I decided to head over to G’s last night, have dinner, and play some pool.
There I was introduced to EU Contractor, who proceeded to show me around to all sorts of seedy and disgusting places. After a lovely dinner, supervised by the charming Auntie Guido, and a couple of very bad games of pool, (I actually won one game), I dragged EU out of there, much to the dismay of one of the lovelies in there. I forget her name, but I think it is Oi, or Nong, or Noot, or Niu, or Noi, or Happy, or Lucky, or something.

We head over to Cowboy, and walk into Suzie Wong. EU is no shy guy. We are there to check out the Lesbian show, so we literally straddle up to the stage, out eyes, at the most, 24 inches away from the dance pole. Out come 4 girls, al very nice looking, who proceed to pair up. A minute later the hot couple in front of us start going at it. One of the girl is performing a gynecological exam on her friend with her tongue. The recipient's eyes roll into the back of her head. Nice touch. A bit of 69 follows, you can actually hear the lapping, and slurping going on. Personally, I find public display of affection a bit offensive, but I am here for EU’s benefit, and what is a friend to do……;)

We then head off to Star something, Piper’s and my favorite place for good old fashioned live rock n roll. He sticks “octopus girl” on me, she just is all over, and wont let go.

Who do I spot in the corner? None other than “Bengali girl”. I recognize her, but of course she has no clue who I am, she is Piper1’s love interest. All I say to her is “Soi 33”, and her face lights up, and she is all over me. She obviously remembers having had a good time there, sleeping happily in the warm Jacuzzi, but of course, who was she with? Was it me? Oh well, she doesn’t really care, she is all over me.

EU has a new one doing the Uhu Stick on him, and proudly announces to me he has her panties down around her knees. Not to be outdone, I decide I need a firmer grip on “Bengali girl”, and proceed to grab her bowling ball style. I offer my sticky finger to EU for him to perform the sniff test, he politely refuses.

A couple of drinks, and we are out of there, breaking the heart of two lovelies. EU remembers he has promised the girl at G’s that he will BF her that night, a quick phone call to Papasan Giotto, and she agrees to wait for him. We part ways, and I walk back to soi 11, where just after crossing Asoke, a LB accosts me, and while trying to talk to me, makes a feeble attempt to remove the empty tequila flask from my back pocket. I shake him/her away, and keep walking.

I make it back to my room, in time to be able to catch 3 hours of blissful drunken sleep, and head out to the airport.

EU, nice meeting you man, be careful out there, safe travels.

[QUOTE=1Ball]I needed to stay at a different hotel this trip, as I was meeting up with some newbies from indo, who are on a strict budget, and wanted us all to stay in the same hotel. So be it.
They left yesterday morning, sufficiently impressed, so I decided to head over to G’s last night, have dinner, and play some pool.
...[/QUOTE]Mr. Vice President,

Thanks for your visit yesterday...and MANY THANKS FOR LEAVING SO EARLY.

We started a huge party in the Sports Lounge thereafter...I will write about the details of your visit later - need some time to prepare a proper report.


BTW: Today:

[size=+2][b]Maids Party[/b][/size]

[b]New Maids Costumes!!![/b]



Giotto

[QUOTE=1Ball]We then head off to Star something, Piper’s and my favorite place for good old fashioned live rock n roll. ...Who do I spot in the corner? None other than “Bengali girl”. I recognize her, but of course she has no clue who I am, she is Piper1’s love interest. All I say to her is “Soi 33”, and her face lights up, and she is all over me. ... she is all over me.
[/QUOTE]1Bestard - one word for you: Fuckyou. :D Leave sticky little Bengali Girl alone (I still cannot work out why her skin is rubbery and sticky even after a good scrub in the Jacuzzi - but I liked it).

As for the LB, was it really a tequilla flask in your pocket, or were you just pleased to see her? (I mean him, I mean ... geez ...)

I agree - unlike most sex shows, that lesbian show is actually hot. Choreographed, but some ad-lib slurping - almost realistic

PS. EU Contractor - you sure get around! .

[QUOTE=Piper1]1Bestard - one word for you: Fuckyou. :D Leave sticky little Bengali Girl alone (I still cannot work out why her skin is rubbery and sticky even after a good scrub in the Jacuzzi - but I liked it).
...
[/QUOTE]Pipeman,

I actually thought about offering her a job at Livingstone's - then nobody needs to go out to Soi Cowboy any more to pick that lady up :) . She can have a lot Jacuzzi customers here...


Giotto

my dear friends,

it has been a while and i humbly ask your forgiveness for my rather abrupt departure from this wonderful thread. i will not bore your with the details, sufficient to say that some 6/7 months ago i failed piper1's dna test, the aftermath of which would make "silence of the lambs" look like a romantic comedy (if only the punishment would have stopped at being hung and quartered with my face ripped off it would not have been too bad).

i a feeble attempt to cover my tracks, i changed my handle, and even after an intensive english language course provided by nige and alfie in pattyland, as you can see i still can not spell. ah well, my social siberia has not allowed me to conduct any rabbit like behavior in any case.

more worrying however is the relative absence of joyfull banter you dungeon loving metrosexuals used to excell in. has that time passed ? have i missed a trend in changes of what is regarded as acceptable communication ? or have you all become closet cosmo readers whose sole interest is to keep abreast of the latest trends in pussy haircut trends ?

some 6/7 months ago i filled my caravan with potatoes, shined my cloggies, was full of energy, ready to meet any challenge, on my way to the lodge. well, i never made it. some day i will.

in the meantime, but maybe i am just being nostalgic and has that time really passed, any chance of going back to hurling insults at eachother at gallactic speeds ? if only to keep dr. g's counter up. as we all know, dr. g's violent mood swings are directly proportional to the threads hitcounter.

and if not, and if those times have really passed, i wish you all the best. my abrupt departure did not feel right, i feel i owed you one more post.

vandal

[QUOTE=Brotherrabitt]some 6/7 months ago I failed Piper1's DNA test [/QUOTE]Good to hear from you Vandal. So, have you been forgiven???

For the uninitiated, Vandal's reference to "failing Piper1's DNA test" translates as "failing to remove incriminating evidence" (so his wife caught him doing something he shouldn't have). To be fair, it's not 'Piper's DNA test' - I think it was Kapitan in Dubai thread who coined the term, soon after he failed the DNA test.

Yes, I've failed the DNA test a couple of times, but with my charms and doey-eyed pleas that all men are bastards, Wildcat forgave me soon after. ;)

[quote=piper1]good to hear from you vandal. so, have you been forgiven???[/quote]

hi chief,

i am in the process of. your communication skills are obviously better than mine, maybe you can start a new business or write a book "50 ways to avoid having to change your isg handle to 0ball". mine have retracted out of sheer terror and have never been seen since.

having failed the dna test, i passed some others (praise the almighty duck!), so no itching or nasty lumps.

in any case, the future is bright, and in a way i am glad i never made it to the lodge. my therapist says that my recurrent dream of being hit with a baseball bat by dr. g in a full latex bodysuit in the dungeon will eventually pass. sometimes it is not wise to have a fantasy come true, even though i fully realise that for some of you this experience is one of the main reasons to go to the lodge in the first place.

in any case, thanks for the welcome, it's appreciated.

v.

Brotherabbitt, nice to see you poking your head out of the hole. How are things in ******* ?

Forgiven? cleaned up your act? Been a good boy? How was BKK with the missus?

I think the mission of this thread has been accomplished, so it is slowly dying. Shame, as the banter was fun, but all good things run their course.

Welcome back, you still have my email, in case something, (you know what) pops up.

[QUOTE=1Ball]Brotherabbitt, nice to see you poking your head out of the hole. How are things in ******* ?

Forgiven? cleaned up your act? Been a good boy? How was BKK with the missus?

I think the mission of this thread has been accomplished, so it is slowly dying. Shame, as the banter was fun, but all good things run their course.

Welcome back, you still have my email, in case something, (you know what) pops up.[/QUOTE]

Hi,

I am ok, thanks, I hope and trust you as well.

I see you have kept your one remaining you-know-what quite busy. It must be hard taking one for the team all the time :).

Something has popped up and I need to run. Later

V.

[QUOTE=Brotherrabitt]...
And if not, and if those times have really passed, I wish you all the best. My abrupt departure did not feel right, I feel I owed you one more post.
...
[/QUOTE]Brotherrabitt,

Welcome back. Good to hear from you.

I saw a balloon some months ago, and something like a sausage was hanging below it - I was worried about your best parts...

Anyway - not too much changed, we opened some more rooms, and the parking area for your caravan is still unused. We are now out of potatoes, and still waiting for your delivery. Close to giving up now, and finding another supplier :) . Who needs a Dutch b(e)astard for that?

The thread is boring in the moment, as the Vice President told me during his last visit. He is right. You were deeply missed. I have some ideas how to restart the activities here, but in the moment not too much time to really do it. But ... soon.

I am worried about the above sentence - ONE MORE POST? Man, now that you are back, cover your ass, hide all traces - and write again!


Giotto

[QUOTE=Brotherrabitt]Hi Chief,

I am in the process of [being forgiven]. Your communication skills are obviously better than mine, maybe you can start a new business or write a book "50 ways to avoid having to change your ISG handle to 0Ball". Mine have retracted out of sheer terror and have never been seen since.

Having failed the DNA test, I passed some others (praise the Almighty Duck!), so no itching or nasty lumps.

[/QUOTE]Vandal - you're gonna hate me for saying this:

It must have been 6 months ago you were caught. If your wife still has you by the balls 6 months later, that's not good (for you or for her). In the big picture, a bit on the side, or an affair is not a major issue (as long as you stick with her in the long run). Sex on the side is simply a human animal thing. Most wives don't like the idea, but in reality it's normal. Shrug it off and don't let it be used as blackmail. Enjoy this short life.

Freeman 418,

I just found your report:

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=573387[/URL]

Now I know what you wrote there all day yesterday - I checked my threads here and found nothing...

Teens 3? Do I have to check it out again? They obviously improved...

BTW: It was Fon you were sitting with the first night, Pipeman's future ex-wife, may be you settle the necessary arrangements reg. a take-over directly with him.

Have fun :) .


Giotto

[QUOTE=Piper1]...
It must have been 6 months ago you were caught. If your wife still has you by the balls 6 months later, that's not good (for you or for her). In the big picture, a bit on the side, or an affair is not a major issue (as long as you stick with her in the long run). Sex on the side is simply a human animal thing. Most wives don't like the idea, but in reality it's normal. Shrug it off and don't let it be used as blackmail. Enjoy this short life.[/QUOTE]Pipeman,

As you know I plan to visit Dubai, and of course the major reason for that is to meet Wildcat.

I am quite sure, that my detailed reports about the hunter's life of her husband will put a huge smile on her face...and 6 month will only be a short while of his future life of suffering :) ! But, take it easy, it is only sex, man, this "human animal thing".


Giotto

[QUOTE=Giotto]Pipeman,

As you know I plan to visit Dubai, and of course the major reason for that is to meet Wildcat.

I am quite sure, that my detailed reports about the hunter's life of her husband will put a huge smile on her face...and 6 month will only be a short while of his future life of suffering :) ! But, take it easy, it is only sex, man, this "human animal thing".


Giotto[/QUOTE]Okay Giotto, expect a personal visit from one of my Dubai mafia today. Money had better change hands.

Scarface Piper

[QUOTE=Piper1]Vandal - you're gonna hate me for saying this:

It must have been 6 months ago you were caught. If your wife still has you by the balls 6 months later, that's not good (for you or for her). In the big picture, a bit on the side, or an affair is not a major issue (as long as you stick with her in the long run). Sex on the side is simply a human animal thing. Most wives don't like the idea, but in reality it's normal. Shrug it off and don't let it be used as blackmail. Enjoy this short life.[/QUOTE]

Jep, you are right of course, in the great scheme of things, etc etc etc. And the "by the balls" - thing is not the issue anymore. I have made a lot of changes in my life (sold my business for instance), not because I was found out, but because it was time to make some changes. Overall life is very positive at the moment, in a lot of respects.

And the sex on the side thing, it is a matter of making a choice between my "urges", the hurt it causes in others and the possible risk for the offspring (ie not seeing them anymore or very little). A topic which should best be discussed with a beer, not on a site which has clearly a different mission.

I put my head in a hole for such a long time, because of the changes (weak argument, I know, also best explained over a beer).

I just could not control the urge to insult the metrosexual bestards here, so I came back :).

V.

[QUOTE=Giotto]Brotherrabitt,

Welcome back. Good to hear from you.

I saw a balloon some months ago, and something like a sausage was hanging below it - I was worried about your best parts...

Anyway - not too much changed, we opened some more rooms, and the parking area for your caravan is still unused. We are now out of potatoes, and still waiting for your delivery. Close to giving up now, and finding another supplier :) . Who needs a Dutch b(e)astard for that?

The thread is boring in the moment, as the Vice President told me during his last visit. He is right. You were deeply missed. I have some ideas how to restart the activities here, but in the moment not too much time to really do it. But ... soon.

I am worried about the above sentence - ONE MORE POST? Man, now that you are back, cover your ass, hide all traces - and write again!


Giotto[/QUOTE]

Hi Dr. G,

Thanks for the welcome back. Good to hear that you do not have time anymore to take care of your primary marketing tool. Have been drinking too much cheap wine lately ?

A few weeks ago I read an article in Cosmo (I have subscribed recently to it, love to do these little tests about the best erotic make-up and sensittive stuff like that) about the fact that "metrosexual" is now out and the new thing is "ubersexual", which is not a semi racial slurr in regard to the country of origin of some rather important members on this thread (first person that came to mind was of course the muderator, don't know if you know him?), which is basically a metrosexual but just a little less gay. So you are still allowed to use your nightcream, but you are now allowed to not boast about it (you can still tell someone of course, but only if the contact with that person "feels right", know what I mean?).

I thought it might appeal to you, you can still be ok with your feminine side, but no need anymore to wax the hair on your ass.

I hope you catch my drift, if not I can mail you the full article, it is quite long but with some pics, so if you take your time, you should be able to get through it in one go, if not, just finish it the next day. That's ok man, know what I mean ? No need to feel bad about that at all, no need to cry. Let me know ok ?

Bye hon.

V.

Hi Guys,

Recently came accross the following article somewhere

"The University of Pus See (Southern Thailand) has recently appointed a full professor in their International Affairs Dept. Prof. Dr Cee Mi Ho from Vietnam was appointed as a leading international expert in so called Control of Unilateral Non-proliferation Topics as from March 1 2007.

In a statement to the press Prof. Dr. Cee Mi Ho said he was pleased to work with the resident staff of Pus See U., specially with Assistant Professor R. Yu In from China and the famous expert Dr. G. Oh Toh, who heads up their research department in BKK.

In a seperate interview with Dr. G. Oh Toh he stated that he was very pleased with the joining of Dr. Cee Mi Ho at their Institute as "due to increasing demand of especially foreign students who want to study at my BKK research department to gain a more in-depth understanding of not only issues regarding the Control of Unilateral Non-proliferation Topics but also in other research fields such as the Timing In Trilateral Situations and their impact on the Control of Unilateral Non-proliferation Topics, and, in increasing importance for specific foreign students, so called Assumed Assimilation Status-games which try to clear up the existing confusion both students as well as professional teachers have in regard to which holes need to be filled in their knowledge base when conducting field research".

When foreign students join the research department in BKK, they will be asked to conduct a special introductory course in the Dissimination of International Control Studies, because, as Dr. G. Oh Toh stated in a further comment "some of my students are really confused about this issue".

Seems that Thailand is really is expanding its' knowledge base which will not hurt their international competitive position one bit I guess.

V.

[QUOTE=Piper1]Okay Giotto, expect a personal visit from one of my Dubai mafia today. Money had better change hands.

Scarface Piper[/QUOTE]Scaredface,

met them yesterday, paid them a bit more (you are a Cheap Charlie!).

They will visit you in Dubai soon :).


Giotto

[QUOTE=Brotherrabitt]...
I thought it might appeal to you, you can still be ok with your feminine side, but no need anymore to wax the hair on your ass.
...
[/QUOTE]Brotherrabitt,

OK, my friend, that means war now. Nobody writes openly on the forum what I do with the hair on my ass.

BTW: I did not want to tell you, but do you know how your wife found out about your specific activities? Ever thought about that :) ?


Giotto

[QUOTE=Giotto]Brotherrabitt,

OK, my friend, that means war now. Nobody writes openly on the forum what I do with the hair on my ass.

Giotto[/QUOTE]

Sorry, will never do it again. Got me worried now, being on the same thread as Scarface and his eyetalian blood brother G.

Have a good weekend gents.

V.

[QUOTE=Brotherrabitt]...In a seperate interview with Dr. G. Oh Toh he stated that he was very pleased with the joining of Dr. Cee Mi Ho at their Institute as "due to increasing demand of especially foreign students who want to study at my BKK research department to gain a more in-depth understanding of not only issues regarding the Control of Unilateral Non-proliferation Topics but also in other research fields such as the Timing In Trilateral Situations and their impact on the Control of Unilateral Non-proliferation Topics, and, in increasing importance for specific foreign students, so called Assumed Assimilation Status-games which try to clear up the existing confusion both students as well as professional teachers have in regard to which holes need to be filled in their knowledge base when conducting field research".

When foreign students join the research department in BKK, they will be asked to conduct a special introductory course in the Dissimination of International Control Studies, because, as Dr. G. Oh Toh stated in a further comment "some of my students are really confused about this issue".
...
[/QUOTE]Brotherrabitt,

I really tried to understand it. Took a dictionary to translate the 50 % of the text I could not understand - and still it does not make any sense.

I think I join that group of students which "are really confused about this issue".


Giotto

Gentleman,

After reading this forun for some time I finally found myself back in Tailand and dropped by Livingstones for a visit. I was quite impressed, it is a nice place with a very nice and relaxed atmosphere. I went into the sports bar when I got there and chatted with the mamasan for a few minutes. As I was sitting there a very cute girl at the table near mine said hello is a very friendly, non pushy way. We struck up a conversation and as I was a bit hungry we went outside for dinner. The food was great, but I really need to remember to not order my food spicy in a country where it comes that way to start with. I had a lively meal and we talked for a while before I asked if she wanted to join me for the evening. I won't go into details, but I had a wonderful night and I an looking forward to seeing her again this evening.

I can see myself spending many evenings in this jewel of Soi 33.

I will say that like other reports I missed Livingstones the first time I walked by. I ended up walking down to the end of the street before turning arouns and spotting it on the way back. I think there is a tree that partly hides the sign when you are coming from Sukhumvit , so if you don't see it on the first pass don't guve up just turn around and go back.

PIT

[QUOTE=PassinThrough]Gentleman,

..... I won't go into details, but I had a wonderful night and I an looking forward to seeing her again this evening.

I can see myself spending many evenings in this jewel of Soi 33.

PIT[/QUOTE]

Good to hear that you enjoy.
As this is the Livingstone thread, read by many actual and potential guests, a little bit more detail about the girl you picked in the Sports bar would be appreciated from all readers.

I don't mean a detailed porn movie like script records what you exactly did in bed, but some of the typical values and behaviors of your girl could be from interest. (GFE, shy if so how long, how did you come along etc.). Ok overall results seems good, but please we are curious. It’s unfortunately not much written here about the girls in the Sports bar. So go ahead.

I was in Thailand in August 2006 the first time it was rather impressive for me how the girls (at least the ones I picked) let you feel more beeing a boyfriend then a P4P cash dispenser.

Just remind you: Don't fall in love and don't forget your life at home, but of course enjoy as well.

Happy holliday.

regards

Brain666

[QUOTE=Brain666]Just remind you: Don't fall in love and don't forget your life at home, but of course enjoy as well.[/QUOTE]
What if one of those girls falls in love with me? Or so she says. Going to be hard to do the butterfly thing at the Sports Bar next time I am there.

[QUOTE=Finrod]What if one of those girls falls in love with me? Or so she says. Going to be hard to do the butterfly thing at the Sports Bar next time I am there.[/QUOTE]

Hey good looking - if they do fall for you, it'll be at least the second time around for them ;)

Many of G's harem have been married and have young children....eg.
- Ms. Nympho is quite young, 23 yrds old and w/ a 3 yr old
- Another young lovely that I spent a great session with was 26 yrs old (but looked much younger) and also had a 3 yr old.
- My wingman who spent the night with another 26 yr old, had two young ones!

I wouldn't be surprised if Fon, Pesky, and Persistent all have little ones to support :D

I went back last night partly to see the girl I met and partly to share a very nice bottle of wine with Mr G. When I got there Mr. G was out to dinner but I met up with the girl from the previous night and we went outside to eat. She asked if it was OK to have some of her friends join us and I was fine with it so in about 5 minutes I was surrounded by 5 very attractive Thai girls all having a good time. We drank and ate some food and after an hour or so retired to the sports bar where Mr. G and I enjoyed the bottle of wine, followed by a nice bottle of red from the bar followed by another bottle of red from the bar. As it was just the two of us drinking the wine and I had had several beers with dinner, I was feeling no pain. I bar fined my girl and we headed back to the hotel.

Brain, my point here is that there are a lot of girls at Livingstones, as long as you like Thai girls you will find someone you will like. The girls I sat with ranged in age from 22 to 32. Some of them were really outgoing while others seemed a bit reserved. I don't really like to share my personal experiences because each girl is different and how she and I get along is going to be different than how you get along with her.

My recomendation is that if you are in Bangkok and want to spend a nice evening go to the lodge. If you don't see anything that interests you, Soi Cowboy is only a few blocks away and Nana plaza is just 2 stops on the BTS Skytrain or a 10 minute cab ride.

PIT

P.S. I went there for lunch and asked about Mr. G. Seems he is still sleeping. Pleasant dreams :-)

Giotto,

I have been reading the forum incessantly for the last week or so because I will be coming to BKK in October. I was there last time just after September 11th 2001 (crazy timing—seems like such a long time ago). So in many ways I’m an old hand, but in others I’m almost a newbie. I’ve been on the site for many years, but haven’t done much in a long time (since I know my local scene well and all the usual places I go in Europe—no need to check in). But now that I’m freshening up my memory I’ve been doing a lot of reading and I think I’ve come to a decision.

I will most likely stay at Livingstone’s when I come.

I really appreciate your contributions to the site, and you come well recommended by the members. I’m used to staying at 4 and 5 star hotels, but I’m sick of feeling ripped off every time I check out. And the walk of shame is another negative. I’m no wildman or party animal, but I think I’d actually feel more comfortable at your place than The Peninsula, or even someplace more moderate like the Landmark. Your place sounds like exactly what I’ve been looking for. And now I see that you’ve done some new rooms, that clinches it, I’m coming. It looks nice, it looks fun, and you seem like a real asset to all travelers.

That’s enough ass-kissing for now. I’m still working on my itinerary so I’ll get back to you later, and I’m sure I’ll be asking questions between now and then. But at the moment it looks like I’m going to go to HK, SNG, BKK and Phuket. I’ll probably go for 3 or 4 weeks total.

I’m looking forward to it. I can’t believe how happy I am to be coming back to LOS. I can’t believe it’s been so long since I was there last. Running a business can be like a needy wife, but to Hell with it, it can do without me for a while. I need the break.

Archie

PS I’d also like to throw out a "thank you" to the other posters, the information is invaluable, as usual. I’ve used it in many countries, and posted about as many, particularly my own local haunts. I don’t get around much except in spurts (pun intended—and I’m talking about to the forum, not the ladies).

And is there any need to ponder once again publicly on whether or not Jackson is actually God? I'm still not sure. I've never seen them in the same place, so I'm undecided.

I'd better go before I start complimenting people I don't even know anything about. I'm that happy to be coming back to BKK. :) You can probably tell that. I'm giddy like a schoolgirl, and it's 6 friggin' months away still. I'm going to have to come at least once a year from now on.

[QUOTE=PassinThrough]I went back last night partly to see the girl I met and partly to share a very nice bottle of wine with Mr G. When I got there Mr. G was out to dinner but I met up with the girl from the previous night and we went outside to eat. She asked if it was OK to have some of her friends join us and I was fine with it so in about 5 minutes I was surrounded by 5 very attractive Thai girls all having a good time. We drank and ate some food and after an hour or so retired to the sports bar where Mr. G and I enjoyed the bottle of wine, followed by a nice bottle of red from the bar followed by another bottle of red from the bar. As it was just the two of us drinking the wine and I had had several beers with dinner, I was feeling no pain.
...
P.S. I went there for lunch and asked about Mr. G. Seems he is still sleeping. Pleasant dreams :-)[/QUOTE]PassinThrough,

Oh my god, it was a lot of wine that night. And I had already started with some German wheat beer before...

Good that we did not try to finish the bottle of Jameson's at the end, then I would have died. Slept until 2 pm in the afternoon anyway.

BTW: What you saw those nights was not the real action at Livingstone's, that was the most quiet weekend in a year. I don't know where all the customers/visitors went this weekend, but Soi 33 was simply dead. I hope we can wake it up again...

I kept the Whiskey, so let's have a drink when you come back. Hopefully with a few more people around here.

Thanks again for visiting the Lodge, pleasure to meet you!


Giotto

[QUOTE=ArchieLeach]...
I will most likely stay at Livingstone’s when I come.

I really appreciate your contributions to the site, and you come well recommended by the members. I’m used to staying at 4 and 5 star hotels, but I’m sick of feeling ripped off every time I check out. And the walk of shame is another negative. I’m no wildman or party animal, but I think I’d actually feel more comfortable at your place than The Peninsula, or even someplace more moderate like the Landmark. Your place sounds like exactly what I’ve been looking for. And now I see that you’ve done some new rooms, that clinches it, I’m coming. It looks nice, it looks fun, and you seem like a real asset to all travelers.

That’s enough ass-kissing for now. I’m still working on my itinerary so I’ll get back to you later, and I’m sure I’ll be asking questions between now and then.
...
[/QUOTE]ArchieLeach,

Thanks for the "ass-kissing"...I thought already many times about the English term for this, and NOW I KNOW!!!

Awaiting your questions, take it easy and go ahead. Even after 7 years here in Bangkok I have no complete overview about all activities in this city, and still behave like a rookie sometimes.

There is no walk of shame in Livingstone's Lodge, but the Lodge is no brothel either. We expect our customers to know what they want, to decide about their lifes, to be adults. And we also expect them to behave politely and not to disturb other customers. Whatever they want to do they can do - as long as there is no impact to the personal freedom of all other guests, and the staff working here.

Simply and normal rules, and that makes the place. I hope you will come here and enjoy with us.

Thanks again for your report - and don't forget to ask questions. It might be of interest for others, too.

See you here soon.


Giotto

[QUOTE=Giotto]We expect our customers to know what they want, to decide about their lifes, to be adults. And we also expect them to behave politely and not to disturb other customers. Whatever they want to do they can do - as long as there is no impact to the personal freedom of all other guests, and the staff working here.

Simply and normal rules, and that makes the place. I hope you will come here and enjoy with us.

Thanks again for your report - and don't forget to ask questions. It might be of interest for others, too.

Giotto[/QUOTE]I can assure you that is my personal philosophy as well. I would behave no differently than if I were in the lobby of the Oriental. Perhaps I will have a more mischievous smile, but that is all. ; ) Actually I would say that 60-80% of my activities in Bangkok will be boring and tedious to most people. I plan to do a lot of shopping and picture taking mostly.

But I plan to have a good time too; and the idea of good beer, good food, and good company at a fair price is appealing.

So while we’re on the subject of my tedious activities, and your willingness to answer questions, let me start by asking about shipping. I always end up with a stack of purchases and various items that I’ve bought wherever I go. It’s usually too much to pack and carry with me so I like to ship it back to my home (DHL, FedEx, UPS etc). Do you have anyone there at the hotel that could assist me in getting one of these carriers to pick up my items, after they’ve been packed for shipping? Do shipping companies pick up from your location on occasion? Or do you have other suggestions?

Archie

[QUOTE=ArchieLeach]...So while we’re on the subject of my tedious activities, and your willingness to answer questions, let me start by asking about shipping. I always end up with a stack of purchases and various items that I’ve bought wherever I go. It’s usually too much to pack and carry with me so I like to ship it back to my home (DHL, FedEx, UPS etc). Do you have anyone there at the hotel that could assist me in getting one of these carriers to pick up my items, after they’ve been packed for shipping? Do shipping companies pick up from your location on occasion? Or do you have other suggestions?
...[/QUOTE]ArchieLeach,

You will not be the first customer of Livingstone's who buys half of Bangkok. We can pack items for you, and shipping companies come and pick it up.

In case of more needed volume we can also book a container from you... :)

Don't worry, standard case.


Giotto

I travel on a business account so have the freedom to literally pick any hotel.
Over the past 20+ years, after sampling Bkk's finest, including Oriental, Shangrila, Regent, Erawan, the list goes on forever,etc., I've found that I can eat only so much for the breakfast buffet, be pampered only so much with service/smiles and have recent years gone 'down-market', first to Novotel for many years, and of course now Livingstone's.

I now prefer peace and quiet, to be left alone. In other cities that I visit for business, have also switched over to 'boutique hotels', less rooms, preferably no coffee shop and no traffic except for hotel guests.

Back to subject -in the old days, I never experienced the walk of shame, on the contrary, I would call it the 'walk of envy' to walk into the lobby and then elevator of the top hotels. Mind you, my companion had to be properly dressed so grabbing someone at the Beergarten wasn't always an option.

[QUOTE=Traveler1234]...Back to subject -in the old days, I never experienced the walk of shame, on the contrary, I would call it the 'walk of envy' to walk into the lobby and then elevator of the top hotels. Mind you, my companion had to be properly dressed so grabbing someone at the Beergarten wasn't always an option.[/QUOTE]Traveler1234,

Walk of Envy - that's nice, a complete different POV. I think it depends on how used you are to such a situation, in the beginning you will feel more shame, but if one reaches your mongering levels then it turns to pride :) !


Giotto

I was out Monday night, dragged by one of our ladies to look around a bit.

First we had a dinner, excellent Thai food, a remarkable restaurant: [b]Baan Kanitha. [/b] Located in Soi 23, close to the Sino-Thai building, no other bars/restaurants around – the place was packed. The restaurant is built into an old Thai bungalow, with a garden around. Parking available.

Inside the house on the ground floor approx. 15 tables, upstairs some more (don’t know how many). Outside another 10 tables. When we arrived around 9:30 the place was packed, when we left at 11:00 pm we were amongst the last customers. The food was excellent, we had several Thai dishes – some was hot but not one dish too spicy. The Chicken Massaman needs to be mentioned, outstanding.

The service was very good, too. Always waiters around, very polite and discrete service – Livingstone’s can learn from that. It is not far from us, 5 min. with a taxi, and I will recommend this restaurant to our hotel customers from now on.

That was the good part of the night.

We then went to [b]Country Road[/b] in Soi Cowboy. There is another one in Soi 19 which I know, but I think it is either closed already or will close soon. This time the Country Road in Soi Cowboy. Oh my god.

It is a kind of Beer Bar with a separate pool table area (3 – 4 tables), and a “Live Band” (the band members were so old, that they hardly can be counted to be alive) played Country and Western. And then – a faked Elvis on the stage…yikes. Not many tables, so customer shared, a permanent coming and going. Service was lousy, the staff basically working girls. The quality of the girls – what can I say, no, I don’t say anything. OK, I had a beer in the beer bar, and the happiest moment was when I left the bar after finishing that beer.

We then had a drink in [b]Five Star[/b], as you know my preferred Gogo-Bar (Hard Rock Live Band) in Soi Cowboy. When we entered the band just played the last song of their second session…bad luck. Then a show started. Naked skin can be seen again in Soi Cowboy, complete nudity. The girls then walk to the customer tables, and you can look up and see everything you want to see. But I am sure that many do not want to see what was to be seen there – disturbing views in some cases.

The girls quality in Five Star was never high, it is better to find somebody somewhere else and go there to have a drink and listen to the music. Now, with this show – I am not sure that I will go there in the future again. I really don’t need overweight girls shaking their naked secrets above my beer glass...

Good that I am old already, and need my beauty sleep. It was after midnight already, so we had a reason to go home, without any more bar hopping. And luckily I had no nightmare - about what I had seen that night.


Giotto

[QUOTE=Giotto]I was out Monday night, dragged by one of our ladies to look around a bit.

Giotto[/QUOTE]

Dragged by one of the ladies?? Hmm, isn't that a bit unusual? Usually it would be a male guest dragging you around. And doesn't that sort of violate the hands off policy on the hired help?

[QUOTE=Thor93]Dragged by one of the ladies?? Hmm, isn't that a bit unusual? Usually it would be a male guest dragging you around. And doesn't that sort of violate the hands off policy on the hired help?[/QUOTE]Thor93,

you BESTARD. You enjoyed the life here, and if I want to go out with one of our ladies then you give me this shit :) ???

OK, not a change of policy, I generally do not go out with male guests, only with females :) ! And in this time we needed to discuss some business issues, and wanted to have a look at some "special operations". Don't worry, everything ended at the entrance of Livingstone's, and I slept in my own bed.

(Why the hell do I write all that here? Do I have to justifiy my own nightlife? Come back, man, we have to talk! :) )


Giotto

[QUOTE=Giotto]Thor93,


(Why the hell do I write all that here? Do I have to justifiy my own nightlife? Come back, man, we have to talk! :) )


Giotto[/QUOTE]

I begin my slow journey back to Bangkok tonight with stops in Europe and China first. Since the company is paying I will unfortunately have to rough it up at the Hyatt, but in my heart would rather be down on Soi 33.

But I will tempt fate and come on down to see you - with TGF in tow. I just may need to know the way is all clear from you first though. We can not have TGF and any past experiences there comparing notes. TGF has forgiven me now though and actually has a more open attitude about my indulgences. She recognized that I was not likely to change my ways and that those ways do not necessarily present a threat to her and her access to my wallet. Isn't that what love is all about?

Giotto:

Glad you tried Baan Kanitha. I'm a fan of Thai cuisine and it's one of my favorite restaurants. Good atmosphere as well as delicious food. Glad you mentioned it. I second your commentary.

[QUOTE=Thor93]...
But I will tempt fate and come on down to see you - with TGF in tow. I just may need to know the way is all clear from you first though. We can not have TGF and any past experiences there comparing notes. TGF has forgiven me now though and actually has a more open attitude about my indulgences. She recognized that I was not likely to change my ways and that those ways do not necessarily present a threat to her and her access to my wallet. Isn't that what love is all about?
...[/QUOTE]Thor93,

Just let me know when you come - Starlet will wait for you, longing, horny ... as you know she loves you as well as your wallet :) . She is now ready to get married to a good man!


Giotto

[QUOTE=Giotto]Thor93,

Just let me know when you come - Starlet will wait for you, longing, horny ... as you know she loves you as well as your wallet :) . She is now ready to get married to a good man!


Giotto[/QUOTE]

Having one TG in love with you is already dangerous enough. Adding a second will surely result in either murder or dismemberment.

Thor, you can have your existing TG in love with you, and Starlet in love with your wallet.

NO PROBLEMS

BTW, I was in the sports lounge 10 days ago, and I barely recognized her, she has put on about 5 kg. Thor, you need to take one for the team, and work it off her.........

It is too quiet in Bangkok. Usually it is high season, but - not many tourists in the city. And Soi 33 is quiet too, some busy days, but no business as usual during this time of the year.

I think Thailand has to pay the bill now for all the political problems of the past year.


Giotto

Giotto,

I know what you mean, it has been quite around Bangkok and not just in Livingstones. I would love to see it really busy but I am not complaining when I can come into the club and hand out with 4 or 5 beautiful girls for the evening. I feel like a real VIP. I do hope it picks up soon.

For anyone thinking of coming to Bangkok, it is great. Come now while the crowds are low. I personally feel very safe here, safer than on the streets of New York that is certain.

See you again soon

PIT

[QUOTE=1Ball]Thor, you can have your existing TG in love with you, and Starlet in love with your wallet.

NO PROBLEMS

BTW, I was in the sports lounge 10 days ago, and I barely recognized her, she has put on about 5 kg. Thor, you need to take one for the team, and work it off her.........[/QUOTE]

Nah, the TGF is very protective about the wallet. She is Thai girl through and through, no money, no love.

Giotto,

I have another hotel question that might also be good information for other travelers considering Livingstone's:

I am trying to pack less, so I would like to have laundry done at the hotels. Does Livingstone's offer a laundry service?

Hi G,
Providing all goes to plan, I should be back in town next week on either Wed or Thurs, not sure yet. Im only around until the monday (got to go back this time:D) for an event over the weekend and not sure if I will be able to stay in the lodge. That being said, Im sure it wont be too much to ask to pop by and catch up.
See you next week, Sid.

[QUOTE=SidTheSexist]Hi G,
Providing all goes to plan, I should be back in town next week on either Wed or Thurs, not sure yet. Im only around until the monday (got to go back this time:D) for an event over the weekend and not sure if I will be able to stay in the lodge. That being said, Im sure it wont be too much to ask to pop by and catch up.
See you next week, Sid.[/QUOTE]SidTheSexist,

I (of course) don't believe you a single word and reserve a room for you for the next 6 weeks. So you don't need to worry where you stay.

A taxi will be permanently available, to bring you to the airport and back to the Lodge, after your daily decision at the airport to postpone your flight.

BTW:

[b][size=+2]Saturday, 31.03.2007, 7 pm[/size]

[size=+4]Swimming Pool Party!!![/size][/b]

This time Hula-Hula Hawaii dresses, girls definitely inside the pool. We prepare for the wet season (Sonkhran, raining season).

Should be fun.


Giotto

[QUOTE=ArchieLeach]Giotto,

I have another hotel question that might also be good information for other travelers considering Livingstone's:

I am trying to pack less, so I would like to have laundry done at the hotels. Does Livingstone's offer a laundry service?[/QUOTE]

I had laundry done while I was staying at the Lodge. They sent it over to the Novetel. If I remember correctly it comes back the same day.

[QUOTE=Thor93]I had laundry done while I was staying at the Lodge. They sent it over to the Novetel. If I remember correctly it comes back the same day.[/QUOTE]Thor93, ArchieLeach,

correct. We use the laundry service from Novotel Lotus. Same day / Next day service available.


Giotto

[QUOTE=Giotto]Thor93, ArchieLeach,

correct. We use the laundry service from Novotel Lotus. Same day / Next day service available.


Giotto[/QUOTE]

don't believe him, they send to dungeon for cleaning and then you need to call multiple times to get it returned.....

but they do send orders for soap and shampoo to novotel to fulfill


LOL

I also think with the US dollar now able to buy 20% less than last year...that does have som affect. If you want the economy to continue to grow, you will do what you can do see that the dollar (and other currencies) don't contnue to decline..it means less exports and can have a very shocking effect (sending the economy into a recession or depression) if it continues.

I'm not just "talking" either..this is my line of work.

[QUOTE=Giotto]It is too quiet in Bangkok. Usually it is high season, but - not many tourists in the city. And Soi 33 is quiet too, some busy days, but no business as usual during this time of the year.

I think Thailand has to pay the bill now for all the political problems of the past year.

Giotto[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Traveler1234]don't believe him, they send to dungeon for cleaning and then you need to call multiple times to get it returned.....

but they do send orders for soap and shampoo to novotel to fulfill


LOL[/QUOTE]
Hey, don't knock us. There is Total Quality Control in the dungeon. So what if they are returned missing a few missing buttons and arms or a leg. They are thoroughly cleaned and pressed.

As far as the soaps and lotions, I can't comment on their contents. Hmm.......

:D :D

[QUOTE=Duniawala]Hey, don't knock us. There is Total Quality Control in the dungeon. So what if they are returned missing a few missing buttons and arms or a leg. They are thoroughly cleaned and pressed.

As far as the soaps and lotions, I can't comment on their contents. Hmm.......
[/QUOTE]Sir,

LOL. Usually we clean and press the customers in the dungeon - don't know whether some arns or legs are missing then ...

BTW: Just got a quote for new sets of accessories for the rooms, such as soap, shampoo, tooth brush etc. etc. ... the minimum quantity we shall order was set to 20000 sets!!!

20000 sets for 27 rooms, that lasts lllllooooonnnnggggg ... this is Thailand.


Giotto

[QUOTE=Redfield10]I also think with the US dollar now able to buy 20% less than last year...that does have som affect. If you want the economy to continue to grow, you will do what you can do see that the dollar (and other currencies) don't contnue to decline..it means less exports and can have a very shocking effect (sending the economy into a recession or depression) if it continues.
...[/QUOTE]Redfield10,

Yes, the weak US$ is a problem for Thailand and its tourism, too. But Soi 33 is usually an expat road, the impact of the strong baht should not be too strong here.

As long as Thailand exports so much, and lots of US$ must be exchanged against the THB this basic trend will not change. When the exports are then too expensive one day the self regulation system of the market will weaken the THB again. Just a question of time.


Giotto

I failed to mention that all the condoms supplied to the sports bar girls are also recycled in the dungeon by the TMQ :D

For the uninitiated here's a couple of pictures of the dungeon. Note: The walls have the same design as in the Lodge - to keep the continiuity.

[QUOTE=Duniawala]For the uninitiated here's a couple of pictures of the dungeon. Note: The walls have the same design as in the Lodge - to keep the continiuity.[/QUOTE]

Who's the broad in the second photo? I sincerely hope not one of the Sports Lounge girls. (Apologies in advance if it's Giotto's mother - I do not wish to cause ill feelings).

[QUOTE=Gaienmae]Who's the broad in the second photo? I sincerely hope not one of the Sports Lounge girls. (Apologies in advance if it's Giotto's mother - I do not wish to cause ill feelings).[/QUOTE]

If you've been following this thread, you'll remember references to Ms. Nympho, the one that was unsatiable by any ISG member?

Well, she met her match - some froggie who's been in LOS for a couple of years. After an all night session with this fella, we had to retire her to the dungeon ;)

[QUOTE=Duniawala]For the uninitiated here's a couple of pictures of the dungeon. Note: The walls have the same design as in the Lodge - to keep the continiuity.[/QUOTE]Sir,

Since today we don't have any customers - all hotel guests suddenly departed, and all reservations were cancelled.

Do you have any idea - why?


Giotto

[QUOTE=Gaienmae]Who's the broad in the second photo? I sincerely hope not one of the Sports Lounge girls. (Apologies in advance if it's Giotto's mother - I do not wish to cause ill feelings).[/QUOTE]Gaienmae,

MY MOTHER??????

That is the Marketing Director in his Dungeon Outfit!!!!


Giotto

[QUOTE=Giotto]Gaienmae,

MY MOTHER??????

That is the Marketing Director in his Dungeon Outfit!!!!
[/QUOTE]

Oooookayyyyy... so the dude behind the pillar must be you (we haven't met so I'm just guessing).

[QUOTE=Gaienmae]Oooookayyyyy... so the dude behind the pillar must be you (we haven't met so I'm just guessing).[/QUOTE]Gaienmae,

That is correct! How you know?


Giotto

Guys,

we had again a case this morning, that an ISG member requested the discount, and had not written a report yet. He promised to do that at home - yes, I know, we had so many cases of this promises, and nothing happened afterwards.

Please, if I know the connection between your handle and real name, and you write a report, I will enter the discount in the invoice table of our hotel system. This is how it works, and THERE IS NO OTHER WAY of keeping track of this.

[b]No report, no discount.[/b] That's it. Please read the promotion rules, it is clearly defined there.

Thanks for understanding.


Giotto

[QUOTE=Giotto]Sir,

Since today we don't have any customers - all hotel guests suddenly departed, and all reservations were cancelled.

Do you have any idea - why?


Giotto[/QUOTE]
Moi? Have an idea? You should ask the Marketing Director. He is the one responsible for the guests. Last time I checked the quality was fine. LOL

[QUOTE=Giotto]Guys,

we had again a case this morning, that an ISG member requested the discount, and had not written a report yet. He promised to do that at home - yes, I know, we had so many cases of this promises, and nothing happened afterwards.

Please, if I know the connection between your handle and real name, and you write a report, I will enter the discount in the invoice table of our hotel system. This is how it works, and THERE IS NO OTHER WAY of keeping track of this.

[b]No report, no discount.[/b] That's it. Please read the promotion rules, it is clearly defined there.

Thanks for understanding.


Giotto[/QUOTE]

G,
I have the feeling you are referring to me. I will write a report however I have been so busy satisfying the local camel population, I just haven't had time.
Report coming soon :)
EU

ps: I was absolutely appalled at OneBalls behaviour in Soi Cowboy.
I think my innocence is gone forever.

[QUOTE=Duniawala]Moi? Have an idea? You should ask the Marketing Director. He is the one responsible for the guests. Last time I checked the quality was fine. LOL[/QUOTE]Sir,

Yes, I know, you are innocent as a bride. As always! BESTARD :) !


Giotto

[QUOTE=Eu Contractor]G,
I have the feeling you are referring to me. I will write a report however I have been so busy satisfying the local camel population, I just haven't had time.
Report coming soon :)
EU

ps: I was absolutely appalled at OneBalls behaviour in Soi Cowboy.
I think my innocence is gone forever.[/QUOTE]EU Contractor,

Happy that you are alive. And no, I did not refer to you, you are a damned bestard - that's what I know. The incident really happened this morning.

OneBall? Who the hell is that? Innocence ... Innocense??? Bicycle? Peanut? :) ?


Giotto

It's getting really hot now. The weeks before Sonkhran - if you live here in Bangkok you know that time of the year. The sky looks as if it will start to rain soon, but then, a few hours later - now clowdes any more. The raining season still did not start.

Next week - Ko Samet. Sleep. 23.0 hours a day. 1 hour dinner - finest seafood.

Yes! What a hard life I have.


Giotto

Giotto,

I just wanted to say thank you for the wonderful time. I spent many evenings in your wonderful place, as you are well aware, and I had a lot of fun each and every night. I especially enjoyed the company of the two ladies. Please tall them both I said hello and send my love. Looking forward to seeing you again later this year.

For thos people thinking of going to Thailand I would recommend staying at Livingstones. The staff is very nice and accomodating, the rooms are quite nice and affordable and the girls are friendly and beautiful. What more can a person ask for?

Cheers

PIT

[QUOTE=PassinThrough]...For thos people thinking of going to Thailand I would recommend staying at Livingstones. The staff is very nice and accomodating, the rooms are quite nice and affordable and the girls are friendly and beautiful. What more can a person ask for?
...[/QUOTE]PassinThrough,

Thanks. It was a pleasure for us to have you with us here at Livingstone's. Just too short - stay longer next time.

Have a safe trip back home.


Giotto

Giotto,

I have also to say to all Livingstone's staff a big "Kohn-kuhp-khrap".

I've spent wonderfull 2 evenings at your lodge and I'm angry about myself that previous nights I spent somewehere else.

And unfortunately I have to leave BKK before Swimming Pool Party - I can only imagine what happened.

It will be hard to wait 2 months to my next visit in BKK.

Jerry (PL)

PS. Please forward best greetings to small dancer (Cat)

Decided to come back and spend some time at Livingstones. Could hardly wait to get there and see everyone again. Since it had only been a few months since my last visit, it seemed the entire staff rememebered me. I know Giotto & his manager did as they welcomed me back to their humble abode. Once again, great service and a super friendly staff is characterizing my time here at Giotto's. I'd like to give a big thanks to German Oak for his excellent report on his time spent here recently. His directions on how to get here via public taxi were right on. It cost me only 300 baht to go from the airport to Livingstones.

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=568428[/url]

So, sleeping, eating, seeing the sights, seeing some girls and buying some souvenirs will be taking up my time over the next few days. I'll write back about Giotto's girls and their new mamasan when I get a chance.

Until then,

CG out.

[QUOTE=Giotto]Thanks for staying at the Lodge. Come back soon :) ![/QUOTE]I'll do it very soon :)

Thanks again

Well the hotel bar wasn't so quiet last night once I arrived. However I don't take all the credit. Some other customers had consumed quite a bit and were starting to get into the frolicking mood.
Mrs. Giotto spotted that my quiet drinking nam manao (lime juice soda) alternated with Gin and Tonic was a bit conservative (trying to save energy for the bedroom later :-)), and that B52's were in order to forget the whole world. She claimed not to drink alcohol that often but must have been in the mood after a Ko Samet holiday break.
A couple of B52s later, my "shy" little hostess J, was ready for some sensuous dancing, as was Mrs G., and Alize from the Caribbean was showing how to shake that booty.
Plenty of gyrating girls and guests before long. A great time for most.
Some trepidation about calling for my bar bill after numerous B52's but the damage wasn't too serious.
J was more than happy to keep me warm again last night (in case I had turned the air-con down too low - on purpose :-)). Slept soundly and no hangover but its a bit hot outside this morning. Need a dip in the pool shortly.
Is a pity I have to leave here before Songkhran festival.

[QUOTE=Mick Licker]Well the hotel bar wasn't so quiet last night once I arrived. However I don't take all the credit.
...
[/QUOTE]Mick Licker,

Did I just see you in the swimming pool :) ?

OK, he came into the bar last night, and the girls went ballistic. After trying to drink some non-alcoholic drinks he changed to Gin Tonic and B-52 and was looking for his next victim - Mrs. Giotto.

I left the bar for approx. 2 hours (State Tower), and when I came back I saw the damage already. Mrs. Giotto had this extreme strange view in her eyes, and announced a "hard night" for me to come. Mick and some more customers were dancing in the Sports Lounge. Music way too loud, but obviously everybody had fun. Within this two hours he had completely mixed up the Sports Lounge.

Such a BESTARD!!!! I suffered a lot last night :) !


Giotto

Friends,

look what this psycho [b]Piper1[/b] is writing about me in the Finnland forum:

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=582629[/URL]

And I thought he was my friend :( ...


Giotto

In ISG there are no friends, only bestards.

[QUOTE=Crap Game]...
So, sleeping, eating, seeing the sights, seeing some girls and buying some souvenirs will be taking up my time over the next few days. I'll write back about Giotto's girls and their new mamasan when I get a chance.
...[/QUOTE]Crap Game,

Thanks, and welcome to Livingstone's.

Please give me a detailed report about the new mamasan, I really need a feedback on her qualities :) !


Giotto

[QUOTE=Mahku]In ISG there are no friends, only bestards.[/QUOTE]Mahku,

let's face it: You are a bestard, he (Piper) is a BASTARD!!!


Giotto

Giotto ad 1Ball know Finland! ?

I didn't know any of you guys knew Finland.

Have any of you been to Mikado recently? I LOVE that place. It's been a while since I was there, but I always seemed to find the right fit there. I could not enter the country without a visit there.

A few of my ATFs were found there, and one that got away that still makes me cry in my beer. I was in the mood for Greek and she wasn't interested and I passed her up for another girl. I assumed I'd go back and get her the next day, but never saw her again. She was a 10! , and so sweet; about 5'8" and blond with a perfect body. God, I'm an idiot sometimes. That was 2001 and I can still see her face, and PARTICULARLY her ass. I remember it vividly. Lessons learned.

Those girls come and go so fast there, but did any of you guys ever meet a small girl named Nadia with dirty blond hair?

Ah, those were the days.

[QUOTE=ArchieLeach]Giotto ad 1Ball know Finland! ?

I didn't know any of you guys knew Finland.
...
[/QUOTE]ArchieLeach,

I have sent the Vice President to Finland to check out whether it makes sense to built Livingstone's Igloo Lodge there... . Up to now no feedback, I think it was too cold there, he will come back frozen :) .


Giotto

Had been in BKK with some friends and I was supposed to leave with them today. But a visit and especially meeting Giotto last night decided to extend my stay here for atleast another day. Just had to try out the place. It was really great meeting Giotto in the sports lounge last night.

Am checked into a junior suite, the manager was gracious enough to upgrade me as they did not have anything available in the deluxe rooms. The double jacuzi is very tempting, hope I can put it good use.

Guys the staff is very friendly! And make you soooo welcome. There is a pool party tonight. Looking forward to it.

[QUOTE=Giotto]Friends,

look what this psycho [b]Piper1[/b] is writing about me in the Finnland forum:

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=582629[/URL]

And I thought he was my friend :( ...


Giotto[/QUOTE]You have to admit, the resemblance is striking. :D
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=68364[/url]

...and it happened yesterday.

The door of the Sports Lounge opened, and a young couple came in. He - handsome, young, stylish, and she - sexy, mini-skirt, big smile.

I knew this girl. I had met her before. But - where?

Pictures appearing in front of my eyes. Who was she? Damned. Good looking, nice figure, well dressed, big smile - I know here ... wait ... Island Girl??? Island Girl - 20 kg???? Can this be ??? Island Girl ???

I looked again. And - Yes, Yes, Yes - it was her! Island Girl, Piper1's lost love, --- but how sexy she was? Slim, but the necessary dimensions everywhere, wow, this girl had lost weight...

After a while she came over to me - "long time no see" - "have boyfriend now" - with this very special smile on her face: THIS MAN IS MINE! And I will give him everything he wants and he needs, that he stays with me. Everybody who lives here in Thailand knows this smile...

"Are you happy?" My question.

"YYYEEESSS!!! He is so good to me! And he is young --- strong ... not like all the other customers there in The Office Bar!"

Wow, I thought for a second, that I am not that young any more, what the hell will my wife tell others about me???

I asked: "You remember Piper1 (Name changed)?"

"Piper1 (Name changed)? Which Piper1 (Name changed)?" --- her answer.

"That one from [somewhere] (location changed). That one you always stayed with when you were here in Livingstone's. That one you always asked me about during the past few months. That one you asked for help when all your bones were broken, or the teeth...whatever...??? That one!" - I tried to clarify.

"Ohhh, Piper1 (Name changed), yes, I remember, the old guy from [location] --- yes, but now I have a man. A MAN!!! A real man!" ---

I did not really understand what she wanted to tell me. But I know, I don't need to understand everything. So I watched this love for a while, they could not leave there fingers from each other --- and I went to sleep.


Giotto

I am soooooo jealous!

(But your story lost credibility when Island Girl referred to me as an "old guy").

;)

I tried to make a reservation 3 days ago on the website, but have not received a reply.

I tried to call them but the lady did not understand me.

I tried to email them but the mail failed to be delivered it was returned as, " ----- The following addresses had permanent delivery errors -----." I used, "info@livingstones.co.th" as the address.

Now I know it might be too late to get a room there because I will be in BKK 9 Apr.

[QUOTE=Giotto]Mick Licker,
OK, he came into the bar last night, and the girls went ballistic. After trying to drink some non-alcoholic drinks he changed to Gin Tonic and B-52 and was looking for his next victim - Mrs. Giotto.

I left the bar for approx. 2 hours (State Tower), and when I came back I saw the damage already. Mrs. Giotto had this extreme strange view in her eyes, and announced a "hard night" for me to come. Mick and some more customers were dancing in the Sports Lounge. Music way too loud, but obviously everybody had fun. Within this two hours he had completely mixed up the Sports Lounge.

Such a BESTARD!!!! I suffered a lot last night :) !

Giotto[/QUOTE]
What can I say? All true I fear.
BTW, How much is the bar fine for Mrs. Giotto??? :-)
Probably too high a fortune :-(

[QUOTE=Luvzthailand]I tried to make a reservation 3 days ago on the website, but have not received a reply.

I tried to call them but the lady did not understand me.

[/QUOTE]
The reception girl has superb English.
You must have just been unlucky to pick a momement when she had to go and some non-reception staff answered the phone.
So just try calling again I guess. I had no problem this method when I needed a room within the hour.
Songkhran time may well be quite busy though.

[QUOTE=Piper1]I am soooooo jealous!

(But your story lost credibility when Island Girl referred to me as an "old guy").

;)[/QUOTE]
Not necessarily, maybe Island Girl has a really younger one than you, which makes you the "old guy". :)

I believe in the DIRECT approach, but ......

My friend (not GF) Alize (name changed) from an Island in the West Indies is also staying at the Giotto’s Lodge in the next room.
I am showing her the "hot" spots of Bangkok.
Her previous trip was severly limited by a religious and troublesome sister.
This time, she could run amok (if she dared).
She so much liked the lesbian full-on show at Suzi-Wong bar (Soi Cowboy) that she had to go back for a 3-peat. She had been approached by Nat who wanted Alize badly, but Alize had her eye on another slightly tom-boyish girl with shortish trendy spiky hair whos name turned out to be Nu.

Anyway Nu was too shy to approach Alize since she thought Alize was Nat's customer and Nat was older (requiring extra respect in Thai culture).

On the 3rd night Alize says to me to find out what type of girl Nu likes (very very indirect by mongering standards). But Nu seems to be busy with a male customer.
So we are just leaving and one of the girls gives Alize a big kiss on the way out. Suddenly Alize wants to enquire if she can take that girl away now that the girl has already indicated interest.

On going back in, suddenly Nu plucks up the courage to also show interest by coming over and also giving Alize a big hug and a kiss.
So now I must do the talking to Nu on behalf of Alize.
We find out that Nu's sister will be waiting for her but a "short time” is possible.

I have to explain to Nu that it will not be a threesome. Another girl J is probaly waiting for me back at the Hotel bar.

Now Alize says she hasn’t ad a girl for nearly 2 years and has lost confidence. She doesn’t think she will do much , so suggests we should all go and have a drink together in Giotto’s Hotel bar.

Alize is getting some tequilas into herself (for dutch courage). Alize whispers to me that she wants to kiss Nu but she just can’t take the initiative. I tell Nu in Thai that she needs to take the lead. But Nu is used to having mongering customers take the lead and is also a little shy. I am frustrated, as it is getting late and close to ar closing time. I am eager to get J into bed in my room but Alize wants me to hang around to “assist” her.

I decide to grab both Alize and Nu by the back of their heads and push them closer. I just then order them to kiss each other witha big juicy one for my voyeuristic pleasure. Surprisely this seems to get the ball rolling a little. At least they are kissing a bit now.

Alize wants to know where she can take Nu, now that the bar is about to close. “To your room of course!” What could be simpler. “But that is too sexual and I don’t know if I will do anything”, says Alize. I explain that it doesn’t matter how much or how little happens. It can still happen or not happen in her room.

Us guys just don’t understand. Eventually I get permission to run off to bed with J.

Alize comes down quite late to breakfast. “Did it work out?”, I ask. Alize has a big grin. “Well we did go to my room and Nu just took all her clothes off straight away”. After that nature just took its course and several rounds of mutual pussy licking and whatever girls do occurred. “Short Time” somehow turned into a long time. Nu had to make apologies to the sister.

Alize calls her boyfriend back in Australia (at present) and tells how she has found a new GF. “Peter (name changed), you can come and stay at Giottos lodge with me next time, but I’m not going to share Nu with you. you will have to find your own one.”

Alize had to return home yesterday, but left me with the assignment to get Nu’s phone number. Accomplished! Unfortunately my stay is coming to an end. I must go home tomorrow night.

[QUOTE=Luvzthailand]I tried to make a reservation 3 days ago on the website, but have not received a reply.

I tried to call them but the lady did not understand me.

I tried to email them but the mail failed to be delivered it was returned as, " ----- The following addresses had permanent delivery errors -----." I used, "info@livingstones.co.th" as the address.

Now I know it might be too late to get a room there because I will be in BKK 9 Apr.[/QUOTE]Luvzthailand,

Sorry - I will check immediately. We got a lot of E-Mails in the last days, so I do not really understand the problem.

Anyway - if this message gets you in time just come here, ask for me, and there will be a room for you.


Giotto

[QUOTE=Mick Licker]...
BTW, How much is the bar fine for Mrs. Giotto??? :-)
...[/QUOTE]Mick Licker,

Keep on trying, and then tell me! How can I know :) ?


Giotto

This bar has a nice variety of girls now. Pretty faces, sexy bods, beautiful personalities, cheeky girls, etc. No real fatties so perhaps not every taste catered for.

The maids outfits have quite short skirts showing a nice bit of upper leg and thigh, especially when they lean over the pool table. Some of these girls look sizzling hot!

Mrs G and the mammasan also look stunning although not dressed as maids.
Its frustrating when not every really hot woman is available, no? :-)

I missed most of the Maids party as was off to meet a friend who is in Bangkok for just one night. He is marrying a Thai girl later this month.
So I knew there would be young good looking studs in the bar checking out the sexy maids, including even if some brought there own "Island Girl" along.
We have a Thai expression 'rot fai chon gun " (when 2 express trains collide) which means more than one guy arrives wanting the same girl.

Earlier in the week I had already upset one guy when he wanted to go with J, but J was waiting for me to return. I was so rude that I didn't even say sorry to steal her away because I thought he was just buying her a drink and chatting (J said she was available for me in Thai so he didn't understand).

But the competition is getting strong. Plenty of young guys. So I pre-reserved J before the Maids party even got started as I knew she would look far too sexy in a maid's outfit. I wasn't taking any chances. Normally I am slow to pick a girl.

But from past experience we all know that sometimes its "the quick or the dead".

Anyway my planning was warranted as J was approached by more than one guy. She politely had to explain to each that she was available for drinks and playing pool but some Bestard (me) had reserved her for the bed. I sort of feel for these guys but have been there myself.

Later J asked me how I would feel if she should happen to go with someone else? The girl has a strange logic where she doesn't want to impose on me to pay her bar fine every night and even has offered me a freebie (apart from the bar-fine which cannot be avoided). However I know full well that if I should choose any girl, J would not be so happy if it wasn't herself. To be honest, J is so wonderful that the other girls really don't have much of a chance to be chosen. I am conservative. Not much of a gambling man. If I have a perfect girl, I don't like her to escape. The right chemistry is not always easy to come by. I trust her so much that I offerred to lend her my digital camera one day. She politely declined for fear of anything that might go wrong with the camera.

Indiaman was telling me about the benefits of a special tonic available in India that works for him with no side effects and that could make me feel just as strong as the young spunks here.
Maybe I could go some extra rounds per day with the help of this tonic.
This is very important with my departure from Thailand looming close :-(

Hi Mick,

It is Ayurvedic/herbal Tonic called " GERIFORTE" ( its ayurvedic name is Chavan Prash also called as Kesari Jivan meaning living like a lion, Chavanprash is generally marketed as energiser to men of all ages but GERIFORTE is specific for additional horsepower one requires.)its manufactured and marketed by 'Himalaya' a well known Ayurverdic formulations company from India.

I have some pills with me, which I am sure will do good to you.

cheers.

Note : Great Maids party last night at Giotto's lodge. Great time.

[QUOTE=Indiaman]Hi Mick,

It is Ayurvedic/herbal Tonic called " GERIFORTE" ( its ayurvedic name is Chavan Prash also called as Kesari Jivan meaning living like a lion, Chavanprash is generally marketed as energiser to men of all ages but GERIFORTE is specific for additional horsepower one requires.)its manufactured and marketed by 'Himalaya' a well known Ayurverdic formulations company from India.

I have some pills with me, which I am sure will do good to you.
[/QUOTE]
Its a pity I didn't get to test these for the duration of my 2 week stay in Thailand. I realise that this type of tonic probably can't work wonders immediately. Certainly had no ill effect though for my nice little session on waking this morning. J seemed to be quite satisfied by the performance.

Since you generally like more voluptuous women than me, I'll to get some pictures of nice D cups in the Photo gallery shortly.

Yesterday was real lazy. Only left Giotto's lodge for 5 mins to go to 7eleven store and ATM. Every other want was handled. Didn't have to go looking for girls. Just telephoned and had them come to me. Haven't been to an MP for the last whole week, even though I mean't to check out "Utopia" based on the comments of a Thai girl.

The world cup cricket matches were televised in either the Sports Bar or in the room, whereas in Nana district have to search for a bar showing these.
England started well enough but the batting fell away with some good Australian bolwing in the middle.

I went to bed early for a change to replenish the energy levels. Several nights of too much play and not enough sleep was giving serious dark rings under the eyes.

Feel for Indiaman who only has a short stay in Thailand and needs to pack many things into his tight schedule.

P.S. That lazy Giotto seems to be sleeping all morning as usual. What has drained all his energy? A tigress no doubt!

[QUOTE=Mick Licker]...
P.S. That lazy Giotto seems to be sleeping all morning as usual. What has drained all his energy? A tigress no doubt![/QUOTE]Mick Licker,

Bestard! Who was lazy yesterday, you or me?

Yep, a long night again. The nights are long here in Thailand. In the nights the emotions and problems are coming up, and so many people need to talk. This night again - 6 am.

Life is not easy.


Giotto

[QUOTE=Duniawala]Not necessarily, maybe Island Girl has a really younger one than you, which makes you the "old guy". :)[/QUOTE]Sir,

not precisely true - it is not that easy to find a Thai woman working in this road which is OLDER than him ... - I think Island girl knew exactly what she was talking about :) .


Giotto

The bar is doing very well in the moment. Obviously the restructuring measures of the mamasan are successful.

Some of the old girls left, they were not able to follow the strict discipline the new manasan requires. But many new girls came in, and every day more girls come and apply for a job. The word of mouth is around that this bar has customers, and girls like to work in bars where the customers go.

The numbers of bar fines are on record level in the moment. Some girls are bar fined for a week and go with customers to Phuket / Chiang Mai. Some days it looks at 10 pm as if we don't have enough girls in the bar - many went out already then. Customers return, and that shows very clearly that the girls obviously have learned to take good care of customers.

In the last month we lost 3 girls, taken out of the bar from customers who intend to take care of them. After 2 weeks 2 of them came back as sideliners, and after a few more days both of them went out with other customers again to generate some additional income. Though I always try to warn those customers - they do not listen. That reminds me of the one general rule:

[b]You can take a girl out of a bar, but you cannot take the bar out of a girl![/b]

In a way I finally made it to be a pimp. Never wanted to be one, but the figures clearly confirm my steep career :) .


Giotto

Hi,

Perhaps Giotto's last report on the successes of the Sports Bar answers my question but I'll ask anyway:-

I'll soon be passing through BKK on an overnighter and don't want to miss out on the opportunity for fun. I've never had the chance to stay at Livingstone's and this is a rare opportunity to remedy that. However, I'll be travelling with a business colleague who is not a monger and is quite possibly unaware of what BKK truely offers. I can guarantee he has no interest in the delights within.

With this in mind, is Livingstone's an appropriate stop-over or should I find something more suited to his sensibilities while still giving me the opportunity to play?

Thanks!

[QUOTE=Giotto]sIn a way I finally made it to be a pimp. Never wanted to be one, but the figures clearly confirm my steep career :) .
Giotto[/QUOTE]

A good pimp always, repeats, always tests his products before putting it out to market. Are you a good pimp? :)

[QUOTE=Traveler1234]A good pimp always, repeats, always tests his products before putting it out to market. Are you a good pimp? :)[/QUOTE]Mr. Marketing Director,

OK, admitted, I am a lousy pimp :) .


Giotto

[QUOTE=Giotto]Mr. Marketing Director,

OK, admitted, I am a lousy pimp :) .

Giotto[/QUOTE]

Can I then be THE pimp for the Sports Bar? I'll try my best to be a 'good' one.

G,
Good to see you on sunday albeit for only 10 minutes. Apologies we couldnt stay longer but we had a few bars to get around and most were leaving early in the morning.
I did manage to make my flight, first time round this time, which means Im now back in dull Beijing dreaming up my next excuse to get away to LOS.
Sid

[QUOTE=Traveler1234]Can I then be THE pimp for the Sports Bar? I'll try my best to be a 'good' one.[/QUOTE]Mr. Marketing Director,

Please address your proposal directly to Sir Duniawala, who is responsible in the moment for TQM. If he is OK with assigning this important task to you - no problem for me.

I am too old for that job anyway :) ...


Giotto

[QUOTE=SidTheSexist]...
I did manage to make my flight, first time round this time, which means Im now back in dull Beijing dreaming up my next excuse to get away to LOS.
Sid[/QUOTE]SidTheSexist,

Of course I do not believe a single word :) ... still expect to to show up again any minute or receiving a message from Meaty with the information that you still stay here in Bangkok.


Giotto

[QUOTE=Giotto]

I am too old for that job anyway :) ...

Giotto[/QUOTE]Having met you during my 4 night stay at your marvelous establishment at the beginning of the month, I find that statement a little hard to believe!

I am only slightly sorry that I was rather taken with a cute lil thing that I had found earlier in my trip whilst staying elsewhere, and only partook of the delights of the Sports Bar once during my stay. (the lady concerned was extremely lovely though)

My life with the GF had finished (I think). Unfortunately although we never had fights and she was beautiful and relatively easy going, she had got the upper hand, where I was treating her better than she was treating me. This can only be tolerated for so long and when the reasons for it can be explained. I need a girl that treats me at least as well or better than I treat her, most of the time, so that I can maintain the upper hand. This unfortunately means taking a tougher approach.

The antidote for the depression was to be a stay at Giotto's Lodge.

It has been a nice brain-relaxing week at Giotto's Lodge.
Got a nice little discount on the bill for extended stay as well.

Have spent time with two new "partners", to keep mind off the GF, who have treated me better than I treated them, and also occupied remaining time with a couple of other female friends for the week.
Didn't have any sex with Alize my black Bi-sexual friend (and not quite my type), but was otherwise occupied with
"J" from the sports bar by night, and with Dao (a chef) by day (both Buri-Ram girls but different skin shades).
Although several girls at the Sports Bar have names beginning J, I am referring to just one.
Yes, J was so faultless that I effectively bar-fined her every night for the whole week.
She even knocked back definite gigs with younger better looking guys in the faint hope that I might show up looking for her,
no matter how late I returned from Soi Cowboy lesbian shows with Alize.

From the Forum List, I have imbibed with mates Giotto and Indiaman.

It doesn't take long to see that having 2 wives would bring a lot of head-aches in the long run,
but seems more manageable for a short time only.
I totally forgot about MPs for the duration.
Plenty of good sex just made me too lazy to go out and punt (gambol) on some
girl at "Utopia" which I originally intended to try.
Didn't even pursue the stunningly beautiful girl on the door at nearby Christies Club.
Perhaps someone else has or will research these and give a report.

Dinner every night at Giotto's Lodge, dining with usually 2 girls (Alize and J) with small appetities, caused me to eat too much regularly, whether was curried crab or fillet steaks (plenty to choose from).
That combining with plenty of drinking each night unfortunately caused me to put on 3 kilos in 2 weeks,
despite regular, frequent and prolonged bouts of sexercise.
Whoops, I nearly forgot the contribution of some good Belgium chocolates at "Duc du Praslin" just West of Soi 33 in Sukhumwit Rd.

So now that I return to Australia for work, I am suffering from severe "Withdrawal" symptoms,
and must concentrate on the mission to loose the excess kilos with a fish and salad diet, and loose all thoughts of the recent GF.

Already missing my 2 temporary wives (both showing promise to be better and more classy than the finished GF).
Also memories of my friends Alize, Mrs Giotto, Indiaman, all the staff, and last but not least Giotto .
BTW, Plenty of stirrers at the Lodge lead by master stirrer Giotto, including
the hotel manager G (not Giotto) and pudgy "waitress" E, were notable stirrers.

Mick,

Sorry to hear about your withdrawals mate. I feel for you. But imagine my withdrawals. You are just over in AUS. I’m all the way in the US. ARGH!

I find myself coming here every day now just to read up on what’s happening in anticipation of my return to BKK. I don’t think I can go without coming to BKK frequently any more.

I have work to do, yet I find myself thinking of LOS.

I have emails to return, yet I find myself reading the forums all night.

I have people talking to me, yet I’m thinking about some nameless TG bouncing up and down on my staff.

But, I do have to say, that your posts, and those of my fellow mongers, have been sustaining me in my desperation. I might just make it.

It’s only 6 months to go. . Oh! , desperation again!

[QUOTE=Mick Licker]...
BTW, Plenty of stirrers at the Lodge lead by master stirrer Giotto, including
the hotel manager G (not Giotto) and pudgy "waitress" E, were notable stirrers.[/QUOTE]Mick Licker,

good to hear that you had a good time.

Stirrers - I am trying to understand the translation of the dictionary. Stirrer...
me????

OK, next time when you come to the Lodge Ms. J will be barfined for some weeks in Chiang Mai...:)


Giotto

Giotto,

FYI: I just heard from some guys in London who are looking for a hotel in BKK in July for the Football matches. There are 6 of them, and they sounded like they would like the Lodge so I recommended you and referred them to your website.

My question is this: Are there a lot of people coming to that match? I won't be there then, but I've heard two people mention it now.

I hope they stay with you.

[QUOTE=Cougar 2]Having met you during my 4 night stay at your marvelous establishment at the beginning of the month, I find that statement a little hard to believe!...
[/QUOTE]Cougar 2,

Hmmm, who is this Cougar 2, I do not remember...you see, I am really getting old :) !

Anyway, if you had a good time, wherever you found your "cute thing", no complaints, it's all about relaxing, enjoying.

Come back soon, I need to find out who you are :) !



Giotto

[QUOTE=ArchieLeach]...
My question is this: Are there a lot of people coming to that match? I won't be there then, but I've heard two people mention it now.
...
[/QUOTE]ArchieLeach,

first time that I hear about this, so I think that not too many people are coming for that football matches.

We still have rooms available in July, let them come here :) !


Giotto

Yikes,

[b]Songkran[/b] has begun already.

Soi 22 is a battlefield, not recommended to go there. Here in Soi 33 there are also some water battles going on - not too much right now, but it will get worse tomorrow - FOR SURE.

God be with us!


Giotto

[QUOTE=Giotto]Mick Licker,

good to hear that you had a good time.

Stirrers - I am trying to understand the translation of the dictionary. Stirrer...
me????
Giotto[/QUOTE]
Sorry if I used Aussie Slang.
"Stirrer" is term of endearment (sort of) for someone who likes to stir up mild trouble or even just provokes others somewhat.
"Shit Stirrer" of course is a little stronger.

I will be in Bangkok from Saturday for 10 days.

Was do I have to expect for Songkran?

When it will finish?

Thanks

Grifone.

Giotto,

I already booked in Grand President, can I come to see you Saturday night?

[QUOTE=Grifone]I will be in Bangkok from Saturday for 10 days.
Was do I have to expect for Songkran?[/QUOTE]Expect to be Wet.

Make sure you put your valuables (wallet, cellphone) in a plastic bag before puting them in your Pocket.

No worries about P4P, all bars are open (Songkran is good business) and a lot of Massage places are also open (Aviva, Teen, Orient, Kornwan...)

Have Fun

[QUOTE=Grifone]...I already booked in Grand President, can I come to see you Saturday night?[/QUOTE]Grifone,

Songkran's last day is the 15th, the next day should be dry again. And as NicFrenchy told you already, put money and mobiles into a plastic bag and get out there and have some fun. But remember, it is a traditional Thai festival, and we farang are guests in this country. Don't get crazy and bring giant water guns - play just a little bit - and SMILE if they get you!

Saturday: Just come over here and ask for the Boss. I will be in.

C U .


Giotto

After reading this forum regularly since it started finally I have got an oppurtunity to visit LOS and wuld love to be stay at Lodge while I stay in Bangkok. My expected arrival will be either during last week of April or Ist week of May. I wonder if there is any party going to be sceduled in last week or no?

I also expect that Mr Giotto will be able to provide me atleast a junior suite or the larger one which ever is available during my stay.

I am confused a bit regarding location of lodge as it is not on main soi 33 and is bit behind and its really difficult to make a taxi driver understand the location becaz of language problem. Is there any proper map available regarding the location?

I am really eagerly waiting to arrive there Mr Giotto as being a Medical doctor its really difficult to get time out for holidays that too as a single by leaving wife and kids back lol.

[QUOTE=Travellar22]I am confused a bit regarding location of lodge as it is not on main soi 33 and is bit behind and its really difficult to make a taxi driver understand the location becaz of language problem. Is there any proper map available regarding the location?
.[/QUOTE]


Tell the taxi it is on the left side about 50-100 meters beyond the Novetel Lotus. Look for the big tree and the elephant tusks at the entrance.

Worst case just stop beyond the Novetel and walk the remaining distance.

If you are really lazy just stop at the Novetel, leave your bags there and after you fnd Livingstones, have them send someone back for your bags. Of course one would question your manliness at that point LOL.

Don't worry, you will find the place and have a great time.

[QUOTE=Travellar22]...
I wonder if there is any party going to be sceduled in last week or no?

I also expect that Mr Giotto will be able to provide me atleast a junior suite or the larger one which ever is available during my stay.

I am confused a bit regarding location of lodge as it is not on main soi 33 and is bit behind and its really difficult to make a taxi driver understand the location becaz of language problem. Is there any proper map available regarding the location?
...
[/QUOTE]Travellar22,

Good to hear all that, come over here.

The last Saturday of each month is the Swimming Pool Party, it will be on 28.04.2007 this month.

Junior Suites / Executive Suite still available end of April / beginning of Mai - just let us know your dates as early as possible.

And yes, Thor93, [b]the big tree and the elephant tusks[/b] - it is not difficult to find us. Just 50 m. away from Novotel Lotus.

See you here at Livingstone's.


Giotto

What can one add to all the reports already existing about the Livingstone Lodge.

My first few days in Bangkok I stayed at the President Solitaire opting for the Livingstone over Songkran. As this is now the Last day of Songkran (when does it ever end) I can say without a doubt, no better place to stay if you want to escape the biggest wet T-shirt competition.

Of course I did participate in some Songkran water activities, on the 12. in Soi Cowboy (all the ladies living above the Tilac Bar were out in full force) and on the 13. with the staff of Livingstone on Soi 33.

The Livingstone is in my book a true “all inclusive” Hotel. Venture into their sports bar during the evening and there should be at least 20 lovely ladies around, none of them pushy. They might come over ask a few questions and then enquire if they could stay for a chat. If you decline they say thank you and of they go again. Even if some of the ladies have limited English skills, they do make an effort to have a conversation, apart from the where are you from and you handsom man.. Of course are we really there for the conversation – no, but for me a refreshing change from the routine. I love the in room sports equipment provided – the Jacuzzi (nothing else to add there)

On my next stay in Bangkok I do have to take a closer look at the other hostess bars. Do like the concept. I’ve seen enough half naked girls doing the gogo shuffle (here I miss the African ladies) and a nicely dressed woman beats that any day.

Thanks to the staff here I have felt more at home away from home, I will be back!

hei guys... if iam ever there during the last saterday of the month... ill do a dj set for all of you guys... as promised, cant wait to be back.. ahh how i miss asia... now off 2 usa... of well :-))

[QUOTE=Dah1973]...
On my next stay in Bangkok I do have to take a closer look at the other hostess bars. Do like the concept. I’ve seen enough half naked girls doing the gogo shuffle (here I miss the African ladies) and a nicely dressed woman beats that any day.

Thanks to the staff here I have felt more at home away from home, I will be back![/QUOTE]Dah1973,

Thanks for the report, and for staying at the Lodge.

Yes, we had some interesting days here during Songkran, and I am right now preparing a report about all the activities here. Songkran is always surprising, you never know whether there are customers in town, or everybody left for the seaside resorts.

Anyway, good that you enjoyed your time here, and I hope to see you back at the Lodge soon.


Giotto

I am currently staying in Livingstone's, and just wrote two pretty long reports under the general Bangkok Reports thread. Just a heads up here too, if anyone wants to check them out.

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=587174[/URL]
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=587179[/URL]

Livingstone's is beautiful and we've had a great time here.

Hatachi

[QUOTE=Hatachi]...
Livingstone's is beautiful and we've had a great time here.
...
[/QUOTE]Hatachi,

Great reports, I wish we had more reports like this in the Bangkok thread.

Good to talk to you this morning. Thanks for staying at the Lodge, and I hope to see you again soon.


Giotto

I just heard from a customer that Livingstone's Lodge can be found in Google Earth. No idea who brought us in there.

Thailand --> Bangkok --> Sukhumvit Soi 33 --> Livingstone's Lodge.

And you will see the Lodge incl. the swimming pool ...

Did not try that up to now ... tomorrow.


Giotto

Hmmm...may be I am too stupid.

I cannot find it entering the name Livingstone's Lodge.

I can find the Lodge in the map, and the picture is old, cannot even see our new building...though the date of the picture shall be 2007.

OK, I obviously don't understand Google Earth.



Giotto

My flight plans and visa are under process and most probably will be finalised by the end of this week and am planing to be there in LOS next week and would try my best to bet there before the month end party at swimming pool.

This time I am planing to be in Thailand for atleast a week and will spend maximum time at Giotto's Lodge lol.

I am anxiously waiting for me arrival as I am excited regarding my stay at lodge as first time I have found a place of my liking to stay at and I hope i find it exactly the way I have read about it.

During my previous stays in Thailand I have always found it difficult to find a real pretty girl in Thailand as mostly bar girls or girls found in disco are average or even below average where as when I see adds of thai model girls they are too pretty and even in Thai air hostesses are mostly on prettier side and its my dream to be with a real pretty thai girl during my stay and i hope i will find some one who will guide me a place to find.

I am confused whether I should try some escort agency this time as some of them on net web sites have real pretty photos of girls but i dnt know whether they have them in real or no and more over they ask exorbident prices in hours lol and I think they mostly cater to people who are either shy to hunt or are first timers in Thailand.
How ever I know for a class standard though one has to pay more which I will ofource be ready to pay.

I will like to keep the girl if i find her upto my expectations for longer period with me instaed of jumping to other so lets see what I find this time.

I am really curious about the quality of girls in sports bar and hope mamasen there will help me out in finding a girl or girls lol of my type.

I also will love to meet ISG member if any of them will be staying during this period.
I hope Giotto does not mind by reading my stupid or fantasy thoughts rather he will make my stay most memorable.

[QUOTE=Giotto]Hmmm...may be I am too stupid.

I cannot find it entering the name Livingstone's Lodge.

I can find the Lodge in the map, and the picture is old, cannot even see our new building...though the date of the picture shall be 2007.

OK, I obviously don't understand Google Earth.[/QUOTE]

It's not in the standard locations that Google Earth shows. Maybe the person had downloaded a kmz file (Google Earth data file) with Livingstone's in it. I've got one which shows Nana Plaza ;-).

[b]Added[/b]: the image data for Thailand is definitely a couple of years old, I'd guess late 2004 / early 2005. It shows the new wing of the Davis Hotel on Soi 24 as a construction site.

If you are using the free version, you get a few years old pictures. If you want the latest, up to date high res stuff, you will need to get the Pro version.

[QUOTE=Travellar22]...
I am really curious about the quality of girls in sports bar and hope mamasen there will help me out in finding a girl or girls lol of my type.

I also will love to meet ISG member if any of them will be staying during this period.
I hope Giotto does not mind by reading my stupid or fantasy thoughts rather he will make my stay most memorable.[/QUOTE]Travellar22,

The quality in the Sports Lounge is good in the moment, including the sideliners we have more than 40 girls in the moment. There should be somebody for every taste.

To meet ISG members - should not be a problem, there are usually always some members here. But of course - you can never be sure. Let's wait and see.

No, I don't mind reading your fantasy here in this thread - this is what the thread is all about. Just go ahead and come here asap.

C U .


Giotto

[QUOTE=Duniawala]If you are using the free version, you get a few years old pictures. If you want the latest, up to date high res stuff, you will need to get the Pro version.[/QUOTE]That is correct.

If you pay for the Pro version, you can add some locations yourself (which is probably what happened with Livingstines)

[QUOTE=Giotto]Travellar22,
The quality in the Sports Lounge is good in the moment, including the sideliners we have more than 40 girls in the moment.
Giotto[/QUOTE]

Damn, business must be good! Finished meetings in HK around 2 pm and had 3 pm flight next day....almost ran to airport to catch a 3:55 pm CX flight for a quick 20 hr visit ... now at HK airport reading this and definitely should have made the trip!

LOL

[QUOTE=Traveler1234]Damn, business must be good! Finished meetings in HK around 2 pm and had 3 pm flight next day....almost ran to airport to catch a 3:55 pm CX flight for a quick 20 hr visit ... now at HK airport reading this and definitely should have made the trip!

LOL[/QUOTE]Mr. Marketing Director,

LOL. How com that I don't believe a single word?

BTW: Yesterday night only a few customers in the bar, and SO MANY LADIES! All of them lonely! All of them horny! Nobody wanted to sleep alone. I am quite sure, that some of then had barfined you...:)


Giotto

[QUOTE=Giotto]Mr. Marketing Director,

LOL. How com that I don't believe a single word?

Giotto[/QUOTE]

This time it's really true.

Two of my Bkk managers as well as a USA guest were running to catch the flight after our meeting. I had my passport, Thai mobile sim card and ATM card in my computer bag.....obviously had I come, no need for change of clothes....I hear the dungeon provides 5 hr laundry service :D

[b]Songkran, 13. - 15.04.2007. [/b]The most crazy time in Thailand. And it gets more crazy every year.

This time the huge water guns and cars driving through the roads throwing water at people were not allowed. Of course - nobody cared. It was worse than ever.

But let's start at the beginning.

[b]Preparations[/b]

Of course one needs music. Loud music. Loud music. Very loud music. Especially sub-woofer. Basses. Techno sound and Thai (Isaan) music. [b]Pic. 1386[/b] shows the music system which was setup in Hut 1 in front of Livingstone's entry. No question - if there is a problem with the music system in the Sports Lounge to be fixed by our engineer - that lasts days/weeks. But for Songkran this system worked from the first day, built up within 1 hour.

And Lord Buddha is part of the festival too, ([b]Pic. 1320[/b]). In the "safe zone", close to our main door, the more traditional and educated way of celebrating Songkran is prepared - a little bit water is taken from the silver cup and poured over hands and feet of those who are respected, husbands and wifes, parents, grandparents and other relatives, the management and heads of departments, elder friends, good customers. That's the Songkran style I like, but of course I had to participate in the street fights to keep our staff happy.

The mood is heating up then fast. Water reservoirs need to be close to the road ([b]Pic. 1390[/b]). And it is hot, why not take a bath in there? As long as it is fun for everybody ([b]Pic. 1394[/b]).

...to be continued



Giotto

[b]Street Fights[/b]

The road (Soi 33) is usually so quiet and peaceful. But not on Songkran. Better said - Songkran starting at noon until 8 pm. Surprisingly everybody seams to have learned from the past, that if the street fight is not stopped around 6 pm - there will be no customers in the bars in those nights.

It still looks not so exciting - it is early in the day ([b]Pic. 1400[/b]). But things change fast on Songkran, more and more people on the road ([b]Pic. 1396[/b]). And armed vehicles ([b]Pic. 1377, 1378[/b]). Motorbikes ([b]Pic. 1395[/b]).

[b]Car Attacks[/b]

That's what Songkran is obviously about in Soi 33 - attack the cars. But those cars carry huge water tanks, too. Most of them filled with ICED WATER (!). One car coming, still involved in "discussions" with the staff of our neighboring bar ([b]Pic. 1382[/b]). But of course we (Livingstone's staff) are much better prepared and equipped ([b]Pic. 1383[/b]). But they fight back ([b]Pic. 1385[/b]), brave young men.

The next car ([b]Pic. 1391[/b]) takes a shower, too ([b]Pic. 1393[/b]). And it goes on like this all day.

...to be continued


Giotto

This will be my first ISG post, but I felt compelled to write after spending my first week here at Livingstone's Lodge. My overall assessment? In my humble opinion it is by far the best place to stay while in Bangkok. This comes as no surprise to those who have recommended Livingstone's Lodge and those that have stayed here. I have not been disappointed.complaints? Only one, and I will get to that in a moment. What I like?

1. The staff. At all levels. Ensuring that all your needs are taken care of. From the maid to the bartender and waitresses, they are all extremely nice and responsive. You wake up at 3 and the afternoon and still get your free complimentary breakfast and room cleaned.

2. The food. You can check out the menu on the livingstone lodge website, but I can honestly say that each and every meal that I've had has been prepared with the utmost care and detail. I'm normally conservative in my eating habits, and not very aggressive when trying something new. But even the least exspensive appetizer on their menu is prepared and presented with the look and taste as if you were in a 4 or 5 star restaurant. And I might add that the prices are very reasonable.

3. The girls. I arrived last week during the first day of Songkran which provided the perfect opportunity to get to party with many of the girls outside of the sports lounge. We were in the streets, soaking wet, and fighting as a team for Livingstones Lodge. It was also a great way to get to know the girls in a non-business environment and figure out individual personalities. I have had a great time right from day 1. (I'll add more on the girls in a later post, as I have another week to stay)

What I don't like?

My only complaint is that in the sports lounge we have satellite tv, but it's usally on the cricket channel. I would rather see Thai boxing or some other sport, but the picture is great!

In summary, my choice to stay here has been the best decision I've made for lodging in many years of travel. It's one of the few places I've stayed where even after a week, I rarely leave Livingstones for an alternative place for dinner or entertainment. The few times I have left, I very quickly wanted to return, because it just feels like home.

If your coming to Bangkok, don't hesitate to book at Livingstone's Lodge, it's a 3 star intimitate boutique with a 5 star service rating. I'm looking forward to the next week, and already dreading the thought of leaving.

Ltcsmith05

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[QUOTE=Travellar22]My flight plans and visa are under process and most probably will be finalised by the end of this week and am planing to be there in LOS next week and would try my best to bet there before the month end party at swimming pool.

This time I am planing to be in Thailand for atleast a week and will spend maximum time at Giotto's Lodge lol.

I am anxiously waiting for me arrival as I am excited regarding my stay at lodge as first time I have found a place of my liking to stay at and I hope i find it exactly the way I have read about it.

During my previous stays in Thailand I have always found it difficult to find a real pretty girl in Thailand as mostly bar girls or girls found in disco are average or even below average where as when I see adds of thai model girls they are too pretty and even in Thai air hostesses are mostly on prettier side and its my dream to be with a real pretty thai girl during my stay and i hope i will find some one who will guide me a place to find.

I am confused whether I should try some escort agency this time as some of them on net web sites have real pretty photos of girls but i dnt know whether they have them in real or no and more over they ask exorbident prices in hours lol and I think they mostly cater to people who are either shy to hunt or are first timers in Thailand.
How ever I know for a class standard though one has to pay more which I will ofource be ready to pay.

I will like to keep the girl if i find her upto my expectations for longer period with me instaed of jumping to other so lets see what I find this time.

I am really curious about the quality of girls in sports bar and hope mamasen there will help me out in finding a girl or girls lol of my type.

I also will love to meet ISG member if any of them will be staying during this period.
I hope Giotto does not mind by reading my stupid or fantasy thoughts rather he will make my stay most memorable.[/QUOTE]

There are no ugly girls at Livingstones my friend.

[QUOTE=Silly Fool]There are no ugly girls at Livingstones my friend.[/QUOTE]Silly Fool,

LOL. Thanks. Hmmm --- not so sure. Tastes are different!


Giotto

[QUOTE=Giotto]

LOL. Thanks. Hmmm --- not so sure. Tastes are different!

Giotto[/QUOTE]I certainly did not see ANY ugly girls in the Sports Bar at all!

Some are just MORE attractive than others.

I haven't mentioned this before, but I have been using Google Earth and plan to add Livingtone's with pictures after I get back home. I have it marked on my personal Google Earth Pro, but that's not what you guys were referring to I believe. No one has seen my Google Earth Places. I have not uploaded it there yet. I don't know anyone who has added it since it does not show as a location on my Google Earth. I think whoever was referring to finding Livingstone's might have just meant they could see it on the Aerial.

The two nearest Panoramio markers (at least on what I see) are "Pano Bangkok", which is a pic from the Novotel, and one called "coconut opening, Soi 21" which is actually a misplaced picture of some guy and a coconut. I have reported it to Google Earth and suggested a new location for it since I do not think it is accurately placed on Soi 21. That doesn't look to me like Soi 21. Maybe it is me who is wrong.

This is a good time to ask: I am still a little unsure about the exact location of the Hotel on the aerial. You can help confirm it for me. Look at the Novotel tower just North of the corner. Just North of there you see the shadow of Novotel and two white-topped buildings, one square and the other is rectangular. Just off the Northern corner of the square building, is that Livingstone's pool? Or do I have it totally wrong? If so, where is it on that map?

I was planning to map it in Panoramio when I get back and use a picture I take in Oct, so it would show up for everyone to see. I am also planning to write it up in TripAdvisor.com This is an important site, and people who wish to help Livingstone's should go there and review the hotel. Assuming that Giotto want such a thing. I don't know I haven't asked before. If you like the place, I believe you should promote it.

Thank you for the pics Giotto. I think those are actually the most interesting pics I've seen of Thailand in years. You really get a feel for the street life. I've never seen Songkran pics before.

And it looked like a total blast!

[QUOTE=Paulothai]...
Thank you very ...very much for the great pics
...[/QUOTE]Paulothai,

You are welcome. More to come, will prepare that step by step - but in the moment I am dealing with a database problem here, so I have not the time right now.


Giotto

[QUOTE=Giotto]Travellar22,

The quality in the Sports Lounge is good in the moment, including the sideliners we have more than 40 girls in the moment. There should be somebody for every taste.
.......
[/QUOTE]

How can I understand 'sideliners' in Livingstone's Lodge definition?

regards

Brain666

PS: Quality needs to be monitored by some field validation. Not many of such validation reports about Living stone girls here in the tread of in Bangkok thread though. So maybe I am going to change that.

[QUOTE=Brain666]How can I understand 'sideliners' in Livingstone's Lodge definition?...[/QUOTE]Brain666,

Sideliners are part timer. I used the wrong word. They do not work every day, for personal reasons.


Giotto

[QUOTE=ArchieLeach]...
This is a good time to ask: I am still a little unsure about the exact location of the Hotel on the aerial. You can help confirm it for me. Look at the Novotel tower just North of the corner. Just North of there you see the shadow of Novotel and two white-topped buildings, one square and the other is rectangular. Just off the Northern corner of the square building, is that Livingstone's pool? Or do I have it totally wrong? If so, where is it on that map?

I was planning to map it in Panoramio when I get back and use a picture I take in Oct, so it would show up for everyone to see. I am also planning to write it up in TripAdvisor.com This is an important site, and people who wish to help Livingstone's should go there and review the hotel. Assuming that Giotto want such a thing. I don't know I haven't asked before. If you like the place, I believe you should promote it.[/QUOTE]ArchieLeach,

Yes, you have spotted Livingstone's, and the swimming pool.

TripAdvisor: Reviews always appreciated. I think there are two reports up to now about our hotel.


Giotto

[QUOTE=Cougar 2]I certainly did not see ANY ugly girls in the Sports Bar at all!

Some are just MORE attractive than others.[/QUOTE]Cougar 2,

LOL. Thanks. Now I know - you are the guy who always comes in with the white stick ... :)


Giotto

[QUOTE=Ltcsmith05]...
What I don't like?

My only complaint is that in the sports lounge we have satellite tv, but it's usally on the cricket channel. I would rather see Thai boxing or some other sport, but the picture is great!
...
[/QUOTE]Ltcsmith05,

Welcome to the forum, and thank you for your first report.

Wow, what a review of the Lodge. We can't be that good ... :) .

Cricket: Of course, the Cricket Worldcup is shown in the Sports Lounge, and some people without the cultural background (:)) will not understand this game. For example: Giotto. I do not understand this game (may be now a bit more than before). And I find it EXTREMELY boring and lengthy. But - others (and nobody might believe it) can watch it for hours. And they only come for that. Some beer - and Cricket.

BTW: You are the best pool player I ever saw in our Sports Lounge. Your entertaining pool shows develop already to be a main attraction of the Lodge.

You are a typical bestard. It's fun to sit with you discussing politics, history and future professional activities. I hope your "sympathy" for our Mamasan does not hinder you too much in your hunting activities :) ! BESTARD!!!!

Stay as long as you want. It is a pleasure for all of us to have you staying here at the Lodge.


Giotto

[QUOTE=Giotto]ArchieLeach,

Yes, you have spotted Livingstone's, and the swimming pool. [/QUOTE]
Can someone post a link with the position on Google Maps ( [url]http://maps.google.com[/url] )? I tried looking myself, but never having been to the Soi 33 area I'm not sure.

Or even better, maybe Giotto can include the Google map view on the website. (I can put the code together for you if you want, it only takes a couple of minutes).

Gaienmae,

I had a little trouble too figuring it out, so I put together a little map for you, or whoever wants it. I had to reduce it to get it to fit under the guidelines.

Someone tell me if this is wrong so I can change it.

Anyone can use it obviously.

The GPS coordinates are:
Latitude: 13.734011°
Longitude: 100.567446°

[QUOTE=ArchieLeach]....I had a little trouble too figuring it out, so I put together a little map for you, or whoever wants it. I had to reduce it to get it to fit under the guidelines.
...
The GPS coordinates are:
Latitude: 13.734011°
Longitude: 100.567446°[/QUOTE]ArchieLeach,

Absolutely correct: That is Livingstone's Lodge, on the Google map. Definitely.

Thank you very much!


Giotto

[QUOTE=Paulothai]...
I came to drink a beer with you last november......
but you were not in (sleeping) at that moment.
...
[/QUOTE]Paulothai,

Damned! I always sleep in the wrong moment! Sleep? Are you sure :) ??? Send me a PM next time, before you come !

C U.


Giotto

This night it will happen:

[size=+4]200,000 views[/size]

on this thread since we started approx. a year ago.

Thanks for all your support!


Giotto

[QUOTE=Giotto]This night it will happen:

[size=+4]200,000 views[/size]

on this thread since we started approx. a year ago.

Thanks for all your support!


Giotto[/QUOTE]

That is great, congratulations!!!

If you guys are hiring can I apply for the wine steward position? Looking forward to seeing you next month, actually not really you but the girls. Sorry you just don't have the legs :-)

I will agree with Cougar, I didn't see any ugly women working in the sports bar. I saw some stunners and some attractive ones but no ugly ones. I certainly wouldn't kick any of them out of bed for eating crackers!

PIT

You are welcome. :)

If anyone wants a larger one, they can PM me and I can get it to you. I had to shrink this one to get it to fit, and it doesn't look as good. And the PDF version was still too large (1.5M).

[QUOTE=ArchieLeach]If anyone wants a larger one ... I can get it to you. I had to shrink this one to get it to fit.[/QUOTE]Damn! That's usually what the Sports Bar girls tell me. ;)

Perhaps that explains this last conversation between you and the Hotel Receptionist when checking in last time. Apparently you left something in the Dungeon:

[b]Lodge Receptionist[/b]: One Swedish made penis enlarger pump.
[b]Piper1[/b]: That's not mine!

[b]Lodge Receptionist[/b]: One credit card receipt for Swedish made penis enlarger...signed by Piper1.
[b]Piper1[/b]: I'm tellin you baby, that's not mine!

[b]Lodge Receptionist[/b]: One warranty card for Swedish made penis enlarger pump...filled out by Piper1.
[b]Piper1[/b]: I don't even know what this is! This sort of thing ain't my bag, baby!

[b]Lodge Receptionist[/b]: One book...."Swedish Made Penis Enlarger Pumps and Me: This Sort of Thing is my Bag, Baby!", by Piper1.

Mystery Solved

[b][size=+2]Yeah Baby![/size][/b]

A teenage kid was at my place with his family the other night, playing with google-earth on my laptop. I became bored with the psuedo-intellectual conversation between the adults, so I challenged the lad to zoom-in on my house. The little bestard did it in about 20 seconds.

I laughed and said to Wildcat (my wife) "Be careful, he can see inside our bedroom".

She replied "Doesn't matter - not much to see anyway" :)

The family had a good laugh.

I hate Wildcat.

[QUOTE=PassinThrough]...
If you guys are hiring can I apply for the wine steward position? Looking forward to seeing you next month, actually not really you but the girls. Sorry you just don't have the legs :-)
...
[/QUOTE]PassinThrough,

Damned, man, what is wrong with my legs :) ?


Giotto

[QUOTE=ArchieLeach]...
[b]Lodge Receptionist[/b]: One book...."Swedish Made Penis Enlarger Pumps and Me: This Sort of Thing is my Bag, Baby!", by Piper1.
...
[/QUOTE]Pipeman,

hmm...do you have any explanation for that? (BTW: Can you please send a copy of that book to me? Thanks. )


Giotto

[QUOTE=Giotto]PassinThrough,

Damned, man, what is wrong with my legs :) ?


Giotto[/QUOTE]

To be more precise I assume: It is something inbetween. Don't remember what.

regards

Brain666

Giotto,

Have been unable to find out what time the sports lounge is closing after searching here. 01:00 am as other bars in soi 33? Reason for the concern is that I will likely only be able to get there after 00:00.

[QUOTE=ArchieLeach]You are welcome. :)

If anyone wants a larger one, they can PM me and I can get it to you. I had to shrink this one to get it to fit, and it doesn't look as good. And the PDF version was still too large (1.5M).[/QUOTE]
You can use the item "Reduce File Size" under File menu in Acrobat to reduce the document size. It might bring it down to a manageable size.

[QUOTE=Giotto]PassinThrough,

Damned, man, what is wrong with my legs :) ?


Giotto[/QUOTE]

Just a little to hairy for my taste :-) Also if you follow them up you get to a surprise that is not what I prefer.

Besides the ladies legs are so nice and shapely and they lead up to such nice asses how can I help but like them?

PIT

[QUOTE=Giotto]ArchieLeach,

Absolutely correct: That is Livingstone's Lodge, on the Google map. Definitely.

Thank you very much![/QUOTE]

Rename the attached file to "livingstones.kml" and open it in Google Earth.

[QUOTE=Giotto]Pipeman, hmm...do you have any explanation for that? (BTW: Can you please send a copy of that book to me? Thanks. ), Giotto[/QUOTE]I don't know why Archie made a connection between me and Austin Powers (he's probably never seen my excellent Austin Powers impersonations). But Archie - your post did remind me of being in a sex-accessory shop one day, watching a guy try to work out how a dick-enlarging pump works. It was funny stuff.

[QUOTE=J Korea]...Have been unable to find out what time the sports lounge is closing after searching here. 01:00 am as other bars in soi 33? Reason for the concern is that I will likely only be able to get there after 00:00.[/QUOTE]J Korea,

Within the week 1:00 am, Fridays and Saturdays usually 2:00 am. And if we have a crowd in the Sports Lounge we sometimes just keep it open...:)


Giotto

This past week Giotto has had an exceptional crowd in the Sports Lounge. Yes during the week they normally close at 1:00, but I found that the girls are more than happy to stay longer if there are customers in the bar. For several nights this week, the crowd has been outstanding. Even after 1 a.m. the girls were still singing and dancing along with a full house in the sports lounge.

What I found interesting is that the vast majority of the crowd are repeat customers, who are successful business people who have been coming here for years. Not only do they come back for the girls, but also they would rather stay here in the lodge than in some fancy hotel. So for the past two weeks I've had the company not only the beautiful women here at Giottos, but also had an opportunity to meet extremely successful entreprenuers.

I did visit Soi 23, Nana Plaza, etc., but for me personally the women and the entertainment in those areas of the city cannot compare in quality of company that you find here at Giottos. Ladyboys have become very popular on Soi 4, and appears that the entire 3rd floor of Nana Plaza seems to be entirely devoted to Ladyboy gogo bars.

I also visited several other bars here on Soi 33, but found the drinks and bar fines to be more expensive than here at Giottos, and sometimes there is more pressure to buy lady drinks.

LTCSmith05

[QUOTE=PassinThrough]Just a little to hairy for my taste :-) ...[/QUOTE]PassinThrough,

don't expect me to shave my legs :) . That's a NoNo!


Giotto

[QUOTE=Ltcsmith05]This past week Giotto has had an exceptional crowd in the Sports Lounge. Yes during the week they normally close at 1:00, but I found that the girls are more than happy to stay longer if there are customers in the bar. For several nights this week, the crowd has been outstanding. Even after 1 a.m. the girls were still singing and dancing along with a full house in the sports lounge. ...
[/QUOTE]Ltcsmith05,

Yes, we have a good crowd in the Sports Lounge in the moment. I am surprised, because the weeks after Songkran are usually very quiet, April is the lowest turnover month of the year.

All that depends a lot on the customers - the actual crowd likes to sing and to dance, and that makes the difference in the moment. I hope it stays like this for a while.


Giotto

A good friend left the Lodge today, after staying here for 13 days. Somehow the Lodge is different today from the days before.

Have a safe trip home, my friend. And come back soon.


Giotto

Giotto,

I thought you might like to know that I arrived safely back here to the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia last night. It's quite a contrast to be back here in the desert, surrounded by women covered in black from head to toe, (that you dare not speak too) and the women of Thailand barely covered at all :-)! Talk about an adjustment!

I can't say enough about the great time at spent at the lodge. I met many wonderful people that I'm certain I will remain in contact for years to come. The two weeks I spent there were absolutely the best time I've had while in Thailand on my many visits there, and I can't wait to return. Please tell your regulars, the girls, and your entire staff, that I greatly appreciate the hospitality, the parties, and the true friendship they provided me during my stay.

Yes it was sad to leave, but I'm confident that I will return. And it will feel again like I have arrived home!

Take Care and stay in touch!

Ltcsmith05

[QUOTE=Ltcsmith05]Giotto,

I thought you might like to know that I arrived safely back here to the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia last night. It's quite a contrast to be back here in the desert, surrounded by women covered in black from head to toe, (that you dare not speak too) and the women of Thailand barely covered at all :-)! Talk about an adjustment!
...
[/QUOTE]Ltcsmith05,

LOL. LOL!!!

Let me tell you what I do now:

I am getting dressed, and then having dinner with a customer. Afterwards we will move to the Sports Lounge, where all this beautiful ladies will wait for us. And - a new pool table, delivered today - I have to try it.

Then we will have some glasses of red wine, and check out those ladies...we must find the right one. Of course, all that with the latest sports events and good music.

You have such a good life there in Saudi Arabia with all the bars and the sexy ladies, dressed in black :):):) !!!


Giotto

Here is a useful map of Soi 33 Showing Livingstone's Lodge and the swimming pool as well. Might be a fraction out of date.
[url]http://www.bangkokbob.net/soi33.html[/url]

[QUOTE=Mick Licker]Here is a useful map of Soi 33 Showing Livingstone's Lodge and the swimming pool as well. Might be a fraction out of date.
[url]http://www.bangkokbob.net/soi33.html[/url][/QUOTE]Mick Licker,

The problem with that map is that it is really misleading. Livingstone's is located opposite Soi 33/2, the road in which you can find The Office Bar and Mojos. This map shows the location completely wrong.


Giotto

[QUOTE=Giotto]Hmmm...may be I am too stupid.

I cannot find it entering the name Livingstone's Lodge.

I can find the Lodge in the map, and the picture is old, cannot even see our new building...though the date of the picture shall be 2007.

OK, I obviously don't understand Google Earth.



Giotto[/QUOTE]

I *think* I have found Livingstone's in Google Earth. I grabbed some screen shots.

[QUOTE=Spitfire]I *think* I have found Livingstone's in Google Earth. I grabbed some screen shots.[/QUOTE]Spitfire,

That is correct - the picture shows Livingstone's (as it was 3 years ago). Actually all new buildings are not shown, that google picture is really old.


Giotto

Arrived earlier then schedule around 21.00h at the new airport. Long ways until you reach immigration, but all rollways. We have been unlucky with plane position, probably 7-10 minutes by walking quickly on them to reach immigration. Immigration pretty short, not more then 10 minutes. When finished immigration my luggage was already there for pickup. So total time to reach the Taxi less then 30 minutes – not so bad.
Taxi was easy to spot, no waiting time, but probably due to some surcharge I accepted as a flat rate in one of the basement taxi stands. Flat rate to Soi 33 was 400 baht in a total package with all toll fees and no meter was used. I know its about 100 more then appropriate, but I didn’t want to go to other taxi stand. So avoid the first last taxi stand in the row. Ride itself was fair and due to a thunder storm and lots of water coming down I may have ended up with 350 baht in waiting time anyhow. But arrived safely at Livingstone’s. Soi 33 was kind of water channel. I got umbrella and the Livingstone’s staff managed that my suitcase was not dived into water.

Took shower, unpacked and headed to the sports bar. No intention to go outside even after the rain stopped, but unpleasant environment.
Giotto introduced me to another ISG member and we exchanged some views. Nice characters are some of our ISG members. The Sports bare was definitely rocking. Much different atmosphere then I knew from my first visit. Sometimes girls were dancing on stage, sometimes on the floor, sometimes alone, sometimes with customers. And all that with much discipline of the girls. They don’t approach you unless you clearly wave them over. Or better go to one and ask her to join you. I was hungry and ordered a hamburger and let my eyes circle around spotting the girls to identify my favourites and put them in some sort of ‘ranking’ for the pickup (who knows which other client may cat my favourite). Sometimes the girls are really on low light, so not easy to check. Needed to go out and in and around the Sportsbar 2 times to complete my investigation. Hard job, as many girls would meet my taste which is slim, nice figure an interesting ‘character face’ with ‘flashing eyes’. It doesn’t need to be high displacement for me as I experience the mid and lower volumes more sensitive which gives more fun. I also don’t care of skin colour – can be more white and as well brown – Isaan type not excluded. I would rate about 1/3 rd of the girls as potential preferred partners for the night, which is much higher as in the typical Bangkok bars and another 1/3 rd second option. Compared to my first stay this shows a clear upgrade of the place, probably mama’san or who ever selects the girls has my taste in mind.

Ok finally asked the ‘most flashing’ eyes in character face ‘cuddle cat’ (see later) to join me. She speaks passable English and we have fun together with the other ISG member and his companion. It will turn out that cuddle cat is such a great companion that I barfined her at the next day as well. Even Giotto signalled with Thumbs up about my selection.

Miss cuddle cat is not only nice in the bar, but as well upstairs in the room. As usual with some of the girls she was a bit more shy in the room in the beginning, but I have my special method to overcome.

First is to bring the girls out of the ‘customer satisfaction mode (CSM)’ into the ‘total girlfriend mode (TGM)’ and this is only possible with enough time and can unlikely be achieved if you book ST only. Many girls will provide DFK as part of their service, but it would be still be CSM. The method for TGM is (not surprisingly) that you set back yourself on 2 nd priority for satisfaction and give the girl priority 1.E:G you should find out where she likes to be kissed. There are so many (non primary sexual) body parts girls get horny and feel aroused if you touch and kiss them. Generally girls like to be ‘eaten’ and there are many ways to do so, you just need to ‘follow’ her breathing sequence and spend enough time for this. And do it with passion – she should feel that want to please her. Usually for the time invested you will be rewarded 5 times more then invested and the ‘quality’ goes up. Once the girl left the CSM and is in the TGM you will have a Thai girl that allows herself to please herself and she will give you all 5 times back to please you to.

My cuddle cat turns seamlessly into a wild cat and back. She gets horny from touching the right body parts (not pussy and not breasts) in the bar and can’t wait to be upstairs. Upstairs she lets herself ‘go’. She first, I second. A great experience a girl in TGM. I will not go in further details and may keep her probably more then 2 times.

Regards

Brain666

[QUOTE=Brain666]... I would rate about 1/3 rd of the girls as potential preferred partners for the night, which is much higher as in the typical Bangkok bars and another 1/3 rd second option. Compared to my first stay this shows a clear upgrade of the place, probably mama’san or who ever selects the girls has my taste in mind.
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[/QUOTE]Brain666,

Welcome back.

Let me first mention that the taxi fair from the new airport to Livingstone's should be around THB 250.00, if you catch a taxi with meter. This as information for all new customers arriving at the airport. The shortest way is to take the tollway above Rama 9, and immediately exit it, exit "Rama 9". There you will have some traffic, but if the taxidriver knows that area he will choose to go to Soi 33 via Petchaburi Road and Sukhumvit Soi 39. Through the backdoor.

Yes, the Sports Lounge is rocking in the last weeks. Normally it is low season in the moment, but we have a lot customers. And where the customers go - the girls go. We have many girls coming to the Lodge in the moment and applying for a job.

Good to hear that you found the right one for you. Good taste, man, as always, you picked one of our best ones. Go ahead, have fun, and write your reports.

Thanks for staying at the Lodge.


Giotto

[QUOTE=Giotto]Brain666,

Let me first mention that the taxi fair from the new airport to Livingstone's should be around THB 250.00, if you catch a taxi with meter. This as information for all new customers arriving at the airport. The shortest way is to take the tollway above Rama 9, and immediately exit it, exit "Rama 9". There you will have some traffic, but if the taxidriver knows that area he will choose to go to Soi 33 via Petchaburi Road and Sukhumvit Soi 39. Through the backdoor.

Giotto[/QUOTE]

There seems to be a change in the taxi set up at the airport. It happened to me the last trip and I have read other reports here of it happening to other people. Even if you go downstairs and get in line at the taxi stand they will put you in a cab for a flat 400 baht fee and the meter remains off. I got into a bit of an argument with the last driver about it.

From what I can figure out, after asking you where you are going they decide to tell you the fee is a flat 400. If you say yes to that thinking he is just advising you, they pull you out of the line without filling out the usual chit. I guess this way the cabbie and the dispatcher avoid the 50 baht that goes to the airport. It is an easy one to fall for. The good news is the cab does take the tollway, so in the end you are paying pretty close to what you would have anyway. Still it is some sort of a scam since the taxi is going without the meter.

Silly question I know, but can you bring girls back from other bars, clubs, establishments for the night if you are staying at Livingstones, or are you restricted to the girls from in the establishment itself?

Airport to Sukhumvit 33 is 200~250thb Meter.

65 thb Tollway
50 thb Airport Tax

Total : 300~365 thb.

400thb isn't a bad deal, especially if there is Traffic on Sukhumvit.

I've paid 200 BHT (180 BHT on meter, but small tip added) in the morning. And 300 BHT in the afternoon (with 40 BHT for toll road).

I think range between 200 and 400 BHT is fair price.

A tip given to me by a friend who's living in BKK is to go upstairs (at the airport) and catch a taxi which has bring someone to departure flight. Taxi driver will be happy to go back to the city with a customer. I'll check it soon.

[QUOTE=Big Yuley]Silly question I know, but can you bring girls back from other bars, clubs, establishments for the night if you are staying at Livingstones, or are you restricted to the girls from in the establishment itself?[/QUOTE]

You can bring whatever or whoever you want, as long as it/she can make it up the stairs to the room.

Do yourself a favor, pay Jackson and become a member. You'd be surprised at how many PM you might get before August ;)

Cheers,
Director of Marketing
Giotto's Lodge

[QUOTE=Traveler1234]You can bring whatever or whoever you want, as long as it/she can make it up the stairs to the room.

Do yourself a favor, pay Jackson and become a member. You'd be surprised at how many PM you might get before August ;)

Cheers,

Director of Marketing
Giotto's Lodge[/QUOTE]I am going to become a member. And let the PMS roll

[QUOTE=Big Yuley]Silly question I know, but can you bring girls back from other bars, clubs, establishments for the night if you are staying at Livingstones, or are you restricted to the girls from in the establishment itself?[/QUOTE]Big Yuley,

Of course you can bring girls from other bars to your room. No restrictions...


Giotto

[QUOTE=Thor93]There seems to be a change in the taxi set up at the airport. It happened to me the last trip and I have read other reports here of it happening to other people. Even if you go downstairs and get in line at the taxi stand they will put you in a cab for a flat 400 baht fee and the meter remains off. I got into a bit of an argument with the last driver about it.

From what I can figure out, after asking you where you are going they decide to tell you the fee is a flat 400. If you say yes to that thinking he is just advising you, they pull you out of the line without filling out the usual chit. I guess this way the cabbie and the dispatcher avoid the 50 baht that goes to the airport. It is an easy one to fall for. The good news is the cab does take the tollway, so in the end you are paying pretty close to what you would have anyway. Still it is some sort of a scam since the taxi is going without the meter.[/QUOTE]

This was also my thinking. Generally I don't like the non meter setup and I agree its a 'little' scam. However depending on traffic you may end with 50-100 baht extra. So I thought shortly if I should go back and all the way up to departure to catch a cab there to save that 50-100 baht. But what the heck I wanted to come to the girls asap and therefore accepted the surcharge. With a flat 400 baht I also didn't pay any tip (which didn't seem to be expected) as you may do when you round up the sum somehow.

Next time I may go and try the departure floor.

regards

Brain666

I come extremely good along with my ‘cuddle cat’. It will end up that I will barfine her each night, much different as I have planned before. Customer client type relation is completely gone between us (except for payment of course) and we are more like boyfriend and girlfriend now with all advantages and disadvantages going along with it.

Advantage in the room is that she allows herself to satisfy herself without to think on ‘service the customer’. It doesn’t seem that this happened to often to her. Neither Thai guys (e.g. former boyfriends) nor most of the customers seem to take care usually except for probably some ‘duty DATY’ before they start ‘hammering’ the girl. She can come multiple times a session, much more then I can. I have my pleasure ‘providing’ it and I get it returned with love and passion. When not having sex she wraps around me and is breathing like ‘cuddle cat’. She loves to kiss and cuddle.
The disadvantage is some jealousy when talking to close to other girls in the bar.

There is a special case now:
One of the girls, who is not going with customers and is only there making money with drinks was saying she needs to talk with me in a moment ‘cuddle cat’ was not around. She said that she watched me since 2 days. The reason and the sad part of the story is that I may look somehow similar (or remind her) on her husband who died 7 years ago (even if I am westerner and he was Thai/ Chinese). At the end (of course I spend a drink for her) she was staying close to me and needed to grab my arms, touch me and so on. Mama-san was completely confused as she is normally not doing so with any customer and she was probably concerned of the girl (‘what the heck is with her and this guy’) and me (‘hopefully he know that he can’t barfine her’). Also Giotto had some confusing views towards me.
Not easy to deal with, I rewarded with some ‘touching’, but needed to find the right path between my active part, her active parts and ‘cuddle cats’ growing dislike, even if I explained her the reason. Not sure if I managed well. At least cuddle cat needed some special attention (not sex) in the room later ‘for recovery’.

Now to another point:
Spending much time with a girl that likes you, you also get to know the likings and un-likings of the girls with other customers.
Guys I need to talk to you seriously about your behavior. A not to small portion of you are taking Vitamin V for support and with the ‘iron cocks’ created by that you are hammering and hammering the girls almost all night through. Many of you go for record strokes per hour and more or less don’t take any care about the girl.

So the girls rate you about:
50% completely selfish (hammer type) and blasphemous attitude
25% fake caring but finally selfish (1/2 hammer type) but with some efforts to be nice
____ (=1/2 nice as a result).
20% Basically nice guys, trying to give some fair reward for girls who give them pleasure,
____ but have problems to do so. This category girls honor as they reward somehow your
____ best try, even if it is not successful.
5% nice guy’s taking care that girls have a good time first before their pleasure!
____ This category is the one the girls like most,
____ where they can be a woman and not a sex machine only,
____ where they are close to fall in love with regardless the age difference and
____ where they return everything with heart and full engagement to give you a good time.
____ (with me now near top of the list)

So please note that no girls wants the selfish hammer type which hurts them.
Better try to be at least in the second best category. You will be rewarded.

Regards

Brain666

Brain666,

Great Review! Thanks.

I treat all the women I sleep with with respect, but never the same as if they were my girlfriend. I never let it slip from my mind that it is a business transaction, money is involved and the lady gets remuneration in exchange for a service she needs to provide.

Of course, I am not a tourist, I live here so the "Magic" of the whole Scene is different; also, I am 30 years old and probably not looking for the same thing as most members here. I had a relationship and have no desire to have another one. I live by the FFF rule, but that does not mean I am not courteous and unattentive in bed ;)

It is funny how girls will always tell you what you want to hear, most times girls tell me they hate to go with old men because they are dirty and their body does not look nice. I am sure she tells the complete opposite to older clients. These ladies are experts in Ego brushing.

Hi Giotto,

A friend and I are looking to stay at the lodge 18th of May for 3 nights. We have sent a request through to your website as of 10 mins ago, hopefully you can accommodate us :)

We are first time visitors to Thailand and look forward to staying at your place and catching up with you at some point for a chat and for some sage advise.

[QUOTE=Big Yuley]I am going to become a member. And let the PMS roll[/QUOTE]

Once you get your PM set up (see #1), read on below. Then feel free to pm the resident experts (you'll know who to ask from reading below) for more information. Since you're not coming till Aug, got lots of time, and after all of this, if you still can't get laid, well ???

;)

1. First and foremost, a plug for our venerable host. [b]If you can afford to monger, then you can afford to be a paid member of ISG.[/b] Pay Jackson the subscription fee, get access to PM and you will benefit immensely. If you don’t join, you don’t deserve any help here!
2. FAQ – old but accurate, here’s the link for your lazy bastards: [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement.php?f=253[/url]
3. What I consider some classic Reports of Distinction – again POV
* Phuquer’s classic: 5 Nights in Bangkok [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=393008&postcount=2[/url]
* [url]http://www.InternationalSexGuide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=563812[/url]
* [url]http://www.InternationalSexGuide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=563828[/url]
* [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.in...&postcount=2590[/url]
4. Specific interests: go to that thread and do a simple search, or read back last 5-10 pages….even the chit chat. You’ll figure out fairly soon which members to ask whch questions via your new PM tool J
5. Rookie vs newbie questions (and there is a difference): go to Giotto’s and there is dedicated thread just for you. And yes, Giotto is a pimp but an honest one! [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=2615[/url]
6. Many hotels GFE, if in doubt, ask and you’d be surprised how honest and unabashed their reply will be.
7. Learn to speak some of the local dialect and here’s a place to start, compliments of Daddy and Mick: [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=576887&postcount=118[/url]
8. Think with your brain and not your dick…use each god given tool in the correct manner: [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=470629&postcount=79[/url]
9. Don’t ever forget: “You pay for her to leave after the deed, and not to stay behind. [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=477731&postcount=39[/url]
10. Reciprocate and post a report after your visit, we luv to hear back and hope you become a regular.

[QUOTE=Traveler1234] 5. Rookie vs newbie questions (and there is a difference): go to Giotto’s and there is dedicated thread just for you. And yes, Giotto is a pimp but an honest one! [/QUOTE]

I feel compelled to sort of defend Giotto's honor here. As WEBSTER's Dictionary says, "a pimp is a man who solicits clients for a prostitute." We certainly would not want any newbies think that is what he does.

Giotto is actually merely a Hotelier, "a proprietor or manager of a hotel". Of course part of this hotel is the Sports Lounge in which work many fine young ladies who are willing to spend time with willing gentlemen. While many of these fine young ladies might fit the definition of prostitute - "a woman who engages in promiscuous sexual intercourse especially for money", technically that sort of activity is totally out of the control of the management of the hotel.

And in case someone asks, the barfine is merely compensation to the managment for taking away the services of one of their workers. It is no guarantee of anything more than your right to have the young lady leave the premises with you prior to quitting time.

So therefore we really should refrain from ever labeling Herr Doktor G as a pimp, lest someone get the wrong idea.

And yes it is a rather slow and boring afternoon being stuck here back in the US, daydreaming of when I can get back to Bangkok.