Cebu Bars

[QUOTE=Cuchulain; 1239290]I love activiity on this forum. But the substance is usually in questoin.

How about sharing some detailed information. Like which bars have the cheapest bar fines?

Any reviews on the former silver dollar?

Any other new bars open up in the last year?

This info would be greatly appriciated to us that get to cebu once a year.[/QUOTE]On my last night in Cebu I couldn't go to bed early. Found my way to Mango about 7:30pm on a Sunday night. It was actually my first time there and I got lost wandering off around Fuente (?). Ended up catch a P45 fare to 'Julianna's'. As you know P40 is the minimum cab fare so I was close but not close enough.

The bars in and around Julianna's were totally dead this time of night. I really though I had the wrong places. I was just too early.

I walked outbound along the road for a while as I recall seeing a place called Pussycats on my way in the original taxi from Ayala.

A little further along I finally saw somethign I recall from the forum, Viking Bar. I went in there and was also disappointed. By now it was about 8pm but no enthusiasm from the token dancers on the stage. Ordered a beer and bought a lady a lady drink. Bar fine P2k.

I headed out of here and worked my way along the next two doorways. Similar stories. Bar fine P2k. Each time I bought a lady drink as just wanted some company and a feel (as you do). Can't recall the exact prices. Would it be something like P80 for a beer and P150 for the lady drink? Seems the ladies don't always get bar fined, maybe 1 night in 4-5 so they say. Dancing all the way along was mediocre.

Was heading out to get a taxi when I was called into Planet X. Well who can resist. Much more activity inside. Usual gaggle of punters surrounded by beautiful ladies. Took a booth by the dance floor, made eye contact with the dancer whom was actually enthusiastic. Quickly surrounded by another two a ladies. Bough them P100 of food just to get rid of them. The dancer, short haired, Maui, son joined me. Nice breast, slid behind, nice and pleasant. Once again P2k bar fine. I admit that I was going to barfine her when I checked my pocket and was simply down to about P500. Embarrassing.

Finished our drinks and about 11pm caught a taxi back to Ayala and wandered through the Terraces looking for a stray. No luck.

As I mentioned somewhere else, next trip I'll do less of the hunting down dates and probably just go for the bars. Less hit & miss, less running around and to be honest, the quality of girls was quite good.

Now back in Australia I've been cruising through Tagged looking for local dates. It is so disappointing. When in Cebu, the age filter is set at 19-25. Here at home I set it at 40-50. Such a bunch that I've been seeing on the dating sites for the past year. I love the Cebu search, no matter how often oulook, there is always so much hot young talent on offer.

My next trip to Cebu isn't too far away.

AJ

[QUOTE=Cuchulain; 1239290]I love activiity on this forum. But the substance is usually in questoin.

How about sharing some detailed information. Like which bars have the cheapest bar fines?

Any reviews on the former silver dollar?

Any other new bars open up in the last year?

This info would be greatly appriciated to us that get to cebu once a year.[/QUOTE]I think the issue is that 90% of the posts in this forum are from people who have been living in Cebu or visiting many times.

I can't see any reason for those in such a situation to bother to visit a bar in Cebu which as far as I can see are all dingy, disappointing and way overpriced,

The action in Cebu is almost entirely in the freelancer / non pro scene. If you want bar reviews I suspect we need some newbie or infrequent viitors to step forward.

[QUOTE=Aussie Jo; 1239434]On my last night in Cebu I couldn't go to bed early. Found my way to Mango about 7:30pm on a Sunday night. It was actually my first time there and I got lost wandering off around Fuente (?). Ended up catch a P45 fare to 'Julianna's'. As you know P40 is the minimum cab fare so I was close but not close enough.

The bars in and around Julianna's were totally dead this time of night. I really though I had the wrong places. I was just too early.

Was heading out to get a taxi when I was called into Planet X. Well who can resist. Much more activity inside. Usual gaggle of punters surrounded by beautiful ladies. Took a booth by the dance floor, made eye contact with the dancer whom was actually enthusiastic. Quickly surrounded by another two a ladies. Bough them P100 of food just to get rid of them. The dancer, short haired, Maui, son joined me. Nice breast, slid behind, nice and pleasant. Once again P2k bar fine. I admit that I was going to barfine her when I checked my pocket and was simply down to about P500. Embarrassing.

Finished our drinks and about 11pm caught a taxi back to Ayala and wandered through the Terraces looking for a stray. No luck.

My next trip to Cebu isn't too far away.

AJ[/QUOTE]I say hit Juliana's around midnight. You won't find yourself having wasted a thousand pesos or so on ladies' drinks, and end up broke and alone.

You may just wind up seeing the very women you were looking to barfine earlier in the evening.

As one Australian friend of mine said when asked to purchase a ladies' drink: "Ladies' drink"? Where are the ladies? They're nothing but a bunch of tarts. Get me a lady and I'll buy her a ladies' drink."

I get criticized for nitpicking posts like this.

"How about." How about you get some manners?

Silver dollar is now Mavericks. The name has changed. Basically that is all that has changed recently. It's not a "new" bar. Have you ever been there Cuchulain? There was the fire / loss of air conditioner incident in 2011. It was interesting in that the more energetic gals would get real sweaty. I love sweaty women. Now that the AC works again, well, it's back to normal. Like the sister club, LS, they have variable bf depending on who you are or who they think you are. The freshest thing about Mavs was MM. Wow.

If anything is "new" it would be the Hot Rod transformation to Planet X. Which has been written about here previously. At one time is was a Erik group clone, with all the sofas, but more gals dancing-and an annoying efeminate manager. THen for a while we had Tina, the bulldog of mamasans. She's now in Sisters. The new bar got rid of some of the sofas, and Tina, and added some tables with bar stools. They even have a band on some nites, although the singer I saw last time creeped me out. Actually, the new owner creeped me out too.

X.

[QUOTE=Cuchulain; 1239290]I love activiity on this forum. But the substance is usually in questoin.

How about sharing some detailed information. Like which bars have the cheapest bar fines?

Any reviews on the former silver dollar?

Any other new bars open up in the last year?

This info would be greatly appriciated to us that get to cebu once a year.[/QUOTE]

Most of the barhopping was between 9-12 during 2 days; only was at 9 bars. Many Koreans and some Japanese at the bars. Not sure if waves of Asians take out the best girls early.

1) Love City had decent girls; maybe best overall in General Maxilon St; all in bikinis, just like all the other bars I was at. Bar fine was the highest at 4000 pesos; everything included. Asked the mamasan if it was ST or LT; she said it's up to you. It was different from 4 years. Back then, some of the girls were naked. Couple were outstanding, maybe 9s, but they were of dubious age. Was told at that time that the place was owned by a local that was connected. But now, there is a sign that says "No Barfines", and all the girls were in bikinis. Seems things have changed.

2) Papillon: Marginal girls (6s). Barfine is 3000 pesos; girls get half; everything included. Asked a girl if it was ST or LT; she said it was negotiable with the girl.

3) Dimples: Girl told me barfine was 2000 pesos without tip; 3000 cost with everything included. She said those prices are normally ST; she said we needed to give more tip if you want LT.

4) Planet X: Maybe the largest bar; decent girls.

5) BJs (?) : Barfine was (less than 2K. Forgot, between 1700 to 1900) ; then need to tip.

6) Sisters: Marginal girls; most expensive SML at 75 pesos. Girl said barfine was (less than 2K; between 1700 to 1900) ; then girl said she got half; got confused if that is correct; total barfine then seems too cheap.

7) Red Lips: Marginal girls; many cars out in front; numerous locals in the bar.

8) First time at J Ave (the old Juliana) in Mango Square. Got there at 11 PM during the weekday. 100 pesos cover coupon for your first drink. Half the tables were occupied; not that crowded. Half the girls were with local guys, and the other half were alone with other girls. Most seemed to be in a stoned stupor. They were just sitting at the tables, just staring at nothing. They definitely weren't aggressive in searching for punters. Some other poster said the action started at 3:30 when the bargirls got out; that's way past my bedtime.

[QUOTE=GreenBud;1240094]6) Sisters: Marginal girls; most expensive SML at 75 pesos. Girl said barfine was (less than 2K; between 1700 to 1900) ; then girl said she got half; got confused if that is correct; total barfine then seems too cheap.[/QUOTE]Sisters, of the Viking's group. Barfine was 1800. The girl gets half. No tip requested or mentioned (p100 given for taxi). Took the same girl on a Monday and repeated on Wednesday, because she had a friend outside the bar who was willing to 3-some for p600. Liked the friend better than the bargirl.

[QUOTE=GreenBud;1240094]7) Red Lips: Marginal girls; many cars out in front; numerous locals in the bar.[/QUOTE]The locals who frequent Red Lips (Viking group) are mostly local city officials or connected businessmen. They sit on the sofas against the wall on the left as you enter and they get taken care of and do not pay for drinks or for girls to come sit on there lap while they sneak a feel. They will not visit Vikings on Mango, someone might see them going in or coming out but the quiet side street location of Red Lips is perfect for them to visit unseen. Just mind your own business with these guys.

Has anyone stuck there head inside Cobra Bar to see what's on offer? This bar has been around since September or October 2011 and is located on Ramos on the same side as Bo's Coffee and Neo-Neo and across from K1 Spa. I see some girls (GRO) hanging out there some evenings with the door open and some music playing (mostly older 28+ 5's and 6's) but I have never been inside. It gives off a locals vibe but again unsure.

It's a small place and I think many guys failed to notice a new bar opened.

Just wondring whats the 411.

[QUOTE=GregLondon; 1239599]I can't see any reason for those in such a situation to bother to visit a bar in Cebu which as far as I can see are all dingy, disappointing and way overpriced,

The action in Cebu is almost entirely in the freelancer / non pro scene. If you want bar reviews I suspect we need some newbie or infrequent viitors to step forward.[/QUOTE]Yes I agree that the bulk of the action lies with amateurs but going out bar hopping with your friends every now and again can be great fun. Sitting at home with the gf every night can get old!

The Boss KTV and Bikini Bar on Sanciangko St. Was raided on Thursday March 15th. For those interested in the details, I provided the link but it's pretty standard propaganda that's used for every raid and temporary closure.

[url]http://www.sunstar.com.ph/cebu/local-news/2012/03/17/joint-team-raids-bar-cebu-211682[/url]

Stopped by Mavericks formally known as Silver Dollar on two separate occasions recently in the late afternoon. Happy hour is 1:00 to 5:00 PM and drink specials are 60php, regularly 80php; LD are 150php and 180php all other times. The place seemed tidy and I never saw and roaches. Graeme was there but busy fixing one of the TV's. Met manager Peter who made sure I was having a good time.

As far as the girls go, I was pleasantly surprised. Many where above average with a few hotties! Did not barfine although a few were begging me to take them away. Was quoted a new 'all inclusive' BF of 2800php LT and 2300php ST! But just like Lone Star, if you are in the know it's 800php plus whatever you work out with the girl. A few of the girls were complaining that most of the customers were koripot regulars but I did see a group of Japanese stroll in. This bar still remains a good venue to start off your evening!

On a final note, Chris the former owner of Silver Dollar and Blue Angels had a heart attack in his sleep and died recently.

[QUOTE=Mattrick; 1270150]Stopped by Mavericks formally known as Silver Dollar on two separate occasions recently in the late afternoon. Happy hour is 1:00 to 5:00 PM and drink specials are 60php, regularly 80php; LD are 150php and 180php all other times. The place seemed tidy and I never saw and roaches. Graeme was there but busy fixing one of the TV's. Met manager Peter who made sure I was having a good time.

As far as the girls go, I was pleasantly surprised. Many where above average with a few hotties! Did not barfine although a few were begging me to take them away. Was quoted a new 'all inclusive' BF of 2800php LT and 2300php ST! But just like Lone Star, if you are in the know it's 800php plus whatever you work out with the girl. A few of the girls were complaining that most of the customers were koripot regulars but I did see a group of Japanese stroll in. This bar still remains a good venue to start off your evening!

On a final note, Chris the former owner of Silver Dollar and Blue Angels had a heart attack in his sleep and died recently.[/QUOTE]He won't be missed.

[QUOTE=Mattrick; 1270150]Stopped by Mavericks formally known as Silver Dollar on two separate occasions recently in the late afternoon. Happy hour is 1:00 to 5:00 PM and drink specials are 60php, regularly 80php; LD are 150php and 180php all other times. The place seemed tidy and I never saw and roaches. Graeme was there but busy fixing one of the TV's. Met manager Peter who made sure I was having a good time.

As far as the girls go, I was pleasantly surprised. Many where above average with a few hotties! Did not barfine although a few were begging me to take them away. Was quoted a new 'all inclusive' BF of 2800php LT and 2300php ST! But just like Lone Star, if you are in the know it's 800php plus whatever you work out with the girl. A few of the girls were complaining that most of the customers were koripot regulars but I did see a group of Japanese stroll in. This bar still remains a good venue to start off your evening!

On a final note, Chris the former owner of Silver Dollar and Blue Angels had a heart attack in his sleep and died recently.[/QUOTE]Ohh Sad News. RIP Chris. I had some good times in Silver Dollar, my very first bar in Cebu was Silver Dollar, My first Bar fine in Silver Dollar. After a while I read, the bar kinda went downhill, hope with new owners pick it up

Hi All,

I have never been to Cebu, but I would like to chagne that on my next trip. I've read in prior posts that it is a scaled down version of Manila, with better Resorts nearby. I hope it is cleaner.

To sum up, what would you say are the top 2 differences between Manila and Cebu from the mongering perspective?

[QUOTE=Mattrick; 1270150]Stopped by Mavericks formally known as Silver Dollar on two separate occasions recently in the late afternoon. Happy hour is 1:00 to 5:00 PM and drink specials are 60php, regularly 80php; LD are 150php and 180php all other times. The place seemed tidy and I never saw and roaches. Graeme was there but busy fixing one of the TV's. Met manager Peter who made sure I was having a good time.

As far as the girls go, I was pleasantly surprised. Many where above average with a few hotties! Did not barfine although a few were begging me to take them away. Was quoted a new 'all inclusive' BF of 2800php LT and 2300php ST! But just like Lone Star, if you are in the know it's 800php plus whatever you work out with the girl. A few of the girls were complaining that most of the customers were koripot regulars but I did see a group of Japanese stroll in. This bar still remains a good venue to start off your evening!

On a final note, Chris the former owner of Silver Dollar and Blue Angels had a heart attack in his sleep and died recently.[/QUOTE]Mattrick,

Thanks for the 411 update on Mavericks including prices. Yah alot of the guys on the bar stools are regular expats that like to hang out a few times a week and spend a portion of there SSC on drinks.

Chris kicked the bucket, wow. Last time I saw Chris he was sitting on the corner of Mango and Ramos one evening a few months ago chatting with a couple of young street walkers. He looked like shit. His hair was all messed up and his shirt was untucked, seemed as if he was on a bender for several days. I just walked past as he was showing the girls his business card or whatever. I didn't stop.

I was wondering anyone heard any news about Club Harem. Is it sill closed.

[QUOTE=Boofa69;1270619]I was wondering anyone heard any news about Club Harem. Is it sill closed.[/QUOTE]Last time I heard it was still closed.

Whats happening with the cebu bar scene. It seems to have gone downhill over last year or so. With a few bars closed down. Also the quality of the girls at the remaining bars at a all time low. I remember a couple years ago I found the cebu bar girls to be far more prettier compared to the dark skinned Samar girls of Angeles city. But we all know everyone has different tastes.

[QUOTE=Boofa69;1271066]Whats happening with the cebu bar scene. It seems to have gone downhill over last year or so. With a few bars closed down. Also the quality of the girls at the remaining bars at a all time low. I remember a couple years ago I found the cebu bar girls to be far more prettier compared to the dark skinned Samar girls of Angeles city. But we all know everyone has different tastes.[/QUOTE]The Cebu bar scene has been going downhill for many years now and that's because all the bar expenses are increasing and the number of customers have been decreasing. The end result is most bars are for sale and some of the smaller bars have closed.

Cebu is known for the good Cebuana GFE you can find online and not for the bars. Guys visit Cebu to meet regular women and tend to barfine once in awhile.

[QUOTE=Boofa69;1271066]Whats happening with the cebu bar scene. It seems to have gone downhill over last year or so. With a few bars closed down. Also the quality of the girls at the remaining bars at a all time low. I remember a couple years ago I found the cebu bar girls to be far more prettier compared to the dark skinned Samar girls of Angeles city. But we all know everyone has different tastes.[/QUOTE]Cebu is a freelancer place. You can find better and sometimes prettier girls on the street, mall, etc. Girls feel they can be discreet than working in bars and putting up with bosses.

Also plenty of chatgirls are available.

[quote=boofa69;1271066]whats happening with the cebu bar scene. it seems to have gone downhill over last year or so. with a few bars closed down. also the quality of the girls at the remaining bars at a all time low. i remember a couple years ago i found the cebu bar girls to be far more prettier compared to the dark skinned samar girls of angeles city. but we all know everyone has different tastes.[/quote]you are right, being from asia, i can tell you its the "greed" & the "self-destructive" nature of people in power thats eventually breaks camels back. its not only in cebu, but all over asia you will find the same thing, its same in pattaya. in india we had great bar scene in the 90's but was eventually destroyed by the greed of government. the kick backs and bribe keeps increasing 10 fold all the time never mind the logic these people in power have drunk the poison of greed that brings a day when nothing is sustainable and the business breaks on its own.

remember jaguar bar, the owner could not come up with the ever increasing greed of people in power, he delayed the payment, the bar was raided in the name of **** scam and it is still closed. there was a great night club paseo like juliana now, it too was closed down few years back. i hope not, but feel julianna's days are numbered too or the guy must have solid backing of people in power or his cousin runs it. lol.

if you don't have connections and are willing to grease the authorities in asia for ever 10 fold every other year. say good bye to your business.

if you don't believe. look at germany, it has legal prostitution, everyones pays taxes and the business is booming, bars are expanding & renovating its a win win for everyone. just read the threads on german fkk. almost every month new bars are opening

[quote=starchild2012;1271419][snip]remember jaguar bar, the owner could not come up with the ever increasing greed of people in power, he delayed the payment, the bar was raided in the name of **** scam and it is still closed. there was a great night club paseo like juliana now, it too was closed down few years back. i hope not, but feel julianna's days are numbered too or the guy must have solid backing of people in power or his cousin runs it. lol.[/quote]from what i heard the owner of jaguar stepped on a few toes of someone he shouldn't. let's just say there was a dispute and leave it at that. money and payola was not the reason the bar closed. the owner of jaguar tried to get around this issue by re-opening the bar and listing the official owner of the bar under another persons name. when someone realized what had happened, the new license had been granted and could not be torn up. so city council created a new law. if a bar is forced to close it can't be re-opened in the same spot under different ownership.

j. avenue (former juliana) is owned by a korean with deep pockets.

[QUOTE=Stroker Ace88;1271484]J. Avenue (former Juliana) is owned by a Korean with deep pockets.[/QUOTE]And by a well connected pinoy so I don't think there is much chance Julianas suffering the same fate. Alcoholgy (spelling?) is becoming more popular as a rival to Juliana

[quote=starchild2012;1271419]remember jaguar bar, the owner could not come up with the ever increasing greed of people in power, he delayed the payment, the bar was raided in the name of **** scam and it is still closed. there was a great night club paseo like juliana now, it too was closed down few years back.[/quote]no amount of payola could have saved jaguar from being raided as it was not an ordinary raid. the prominent club was targeted by ijm, a uk based organization in conjunction with other agencies and featured on tv as part of cnn's freedom project. it was a well known fact that the club was a bastion of minor activity sad to say.

as far as the demise paseo, it was a land use issue as their lease was not renewed.

Has anyone played with Raquela and willing to share info. I bumped into her once or twice in the cebu bars and Julianas. Very dark skinned, kids, but slim and trim. Something a little different, but there was also something edgy about her. X

Anyone knows if the International Bar Complex near the international convetion center is still open?

[QUOTE=X Man;1288282]Has anyone played with Raquela and willing to share info. I bumped into her once or twice in the cebu bars and Julianas. Very dark skinned, kids, but slim and trim. Something a little different, but there was also something edgy about her. X[/QUOTE]This girl from j ave? She now has a sponsor seems just after these photos they met and she has not been back on the market.

No, thanks anyway. The gal I know is very dark and has kinky hair. She might be half black, but her tight, slender body seems to indicate otherwise.

[QUOTE=Frenzy3;1291906]This girl from j ave? She now has a sponsor seems just after these photos they met and she has not been back on the market.[/QUOTE]

Information about Camotes Islands would be appreciated. I already have some ferry transportation info from Cebu and Danao (but not at the moment, so sorry for not sharing) , but don't know much more than that. Any hotel recommendations? I've already arranged some company so don't need any gal info.

[QUOTE=X Man;1291926]Information about Camotes Islands would be appreciated. I already have some ferry transportation info from Cebu and Danao (but not at the moment, so sorry for not sharing) , but don't know much more than that. Any hotel recommendations? I've already arranged some company so don't need any gal info.[/QUOTE]Just google camotes and you will find all you need to, easy realy, as have many threads there for you

[url]http://www.sunstar.com.ph/cebu/local-news/2012/06/12/17-trafficked-women-rescued-226391[/url]

Jenny was one of the 17 women who were rescued from the bar on Gen. Maxilom Ave, Cebu City last Friday night. Two female bar employees were arrested.

Four of the rescued women are believed to be minors, but only one admitted she is below the legal age of 18, police said.

The Department of Social Welfare and Development (DSWD) 7 is verifying the ages of the 17 alleged trafficking victims.

NGO parasites strike again. You should put "rescued" in quotations.

[QUOTE=X Man;1291926]Information about Camotes Islands would be appreciated. I already have some ferry transportation info from Cebu and Danao (but not at the moment, so sorry for not sharing) , but don't know much more than that. Any hotel recommendations? I've already arranged some company so don't need any gal info.[/QUOTE]X I visited Camotes about a year ago. Took the ferry from Danao. If it's windy the ferry is often postponed, so good idea to double check. Trip to Consuelo on Pacijan Island takes around two hours. Santiago Bay Garden Resort about 20 minutes south of the teminal is probably the best place to stay. Nice grounds, decent rooms. Air con. Swimming pool and expansive views of Santiago Bay from the elevated open restaurant. Opt for their Cottage accomodation, as the cheaper family rooms are more likely to be crowded and noisy.

Not easy to travel around as I believe there no public transportation available. Hired one of those mini jeepnies for the day to circumnavigate the Island for 1500P. Bakhaw Beach at the north end is worth a swim and Madgonlong Rock Resort is worth visiting for it's views, a swim and a meal. A new resort was being constructed next door, but I don't have any info on that. Night life consists of a few very basic restos on Santiago Beach with Kareoke. Nice for a few quiet days and definitely a BYOB kind of place. Next time I plan to visit Poro Island and a fast cat goes there from Cebu City.

Thanks Q, I appreciate you taking the time to give a field report. Please allow me to add a few facts .....blah, blah.

Discussion on Camotes Islands is moving to the general thread since I mistakenly posted in bars thread. Sorry.


[QUOTE=Questor55; 1292393]X I visited Camotes about a year ago. SNIP .[/QUOTE]

Bars? Has anyone been to MO2 in the Cebu area?

The old Silver Dollar was better IMO. They had a room in the back you could short time. Still it is one of the few bars that opens early afternoon so go for it.

[QUOTE=Starchild2012;1270231]Ohh Sad News. RIP Chris. I had some good times in Silver Dollar, my very first bar in Cebu was Silver Dollar, My first Bar fine in Silver Dollar. After a while I read, the bar kinda went downhill, hope with new owners pick it up[/QUOTE]

Went couple of times last year with GF. Outdoors is more family oriented with live bands and starts earlier. Indoors is more of a DJ / Elegant option and.

Starts rolling much later, like 11pm. No dance floor but some dancing between tables.

Not a monger venue but some middle class / well-dressed ladies on bar stools. Best to bring your own.

Cheapy.

[QUOTE=X Man;1294589]Bars? Has anyone been to MO2 in the Cebu area?[/QUOTE]

Read all about it:

[url]http://www.sunstar.com.ph/cebu/local-news/2012/06/23/nbi-raids-bar-saves-trafficked-women-228283[/url]

[QUOTE=X Man;1294589]Bars? Has anyone been to MO2 in the Cebu area?[/QUOTE]Just to add to what Cheapy said.

Located near Park mall and is actually three clubs in one: An outdoor live music venue, open air covered lounge and disco.

Live music ends around 1:00 AM. Disco goes well into the morning. This is on the weekends. Observed lots of women getting trashed and certainly available. One night a group of Korean women tried to muscle their way passed me to get a spot to hang out so I pinched one in the butt for her effort!

[QUOTE=Mattrick; 1296301]Read all about it:

[url]http://www.sunstar.com.ph/cebu/local-news/2012/06/23/nbi-raids-bar-saves-trafficked-women-228283[/url][/QUOTE]You beat me to it Mattrick.

[url]http://www.cdn.ph/news_details.php?id=13913[/url]

The owner is the same as Vikings. What is happening? I ths is for certain people and political reasons so they get their names in the press as elections soon as well as the 'rescuing' of ladies. Hoepfully not the Koreans moving in as am told is happening in AC.

Red Lips was a nice bar as is Vikings. Always went there with cebu hotties who wanted to see what a bar was like

[QUOTE=Wicked Roger; 1296319]You beat me to it Mattrick.

[url]http://www.cdn.ph/news_details.php?id=13913[/url]

The owner is the same as Vikings. What is happening? I ths is for certain people and political reasons so they get their names in the press as elections soon as well as the 'rescuing' of ladies. Hoepfully not the Koreans moving in as am told is happening in AC.

Red Lips was a nice bar as is Vikings. Always went there with cebu hotties who wanted to see what a bar was like[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Mattrick; 1296301]Read all about it:

[url]http://www.sunstar.com.ph/cebu/local-news/2012/06/23/nbi-raids-bar-saves-trafficked-women-228283[/url][/QUOTE]Ohh No. Just when my days to Cebu nears. The doom sets in. I just digged a little further on these wannabe Jesus Christs and Guess what. The hall marks of western NGO's to the rescue of third world poor souls is at it all over again.

It really does not look good at all for Cebu, Seems like Cebu is their ground zero for operations.

-From Wikipedia.

[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Justice_Mission[/url]

International Justice Mission (IJM) is a USA-based non-profit human rights organization US based No surprises there.

Established 1997.

President Gary Haugen.

Staff

VP and COO: Gary Veurink.

Chief of Staff: Shelley Thames.

Budget US$24. 6 Million (annually, FY2010)

Location HQ: Washington, DC.

Field offices: Guatemala, Bolivia, Thailand, Cambodia, the Philippines, Kenya, Uganda, Zambia, Rwanda, India.

Yes. You read that correctly. 24. 6 Million USD Thats 1. 01854603 billion Philippine pesos.

So the country that I was born and that I want to ran away from to enjoy are both in the list. The founder is a lawyer.

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Results.

In 2010, IJM's Project Lantern reviewed[13] its programs in Cebu, Phillipines, supported by the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation[14] and concluded that there were 79% fewer minors in the sex trade in Cebu than before the program started, over 200 minors were rescued, over 700 law enforcement officials were trained, and over 100 traffickers were charged. In 2011, IJM stated that they had worked with local authorities to free over 2500 bonded laborers in the Indian states of Tamil Nadu and Andra Pradesh since 2001. [15]

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So What we are seeing is Project Lantern in operation. I'm from India and I guarantee you, They have DONE NOTHING. Its just a hog wash to receive more funds and donation. Saving people have become a big business now.

Its all for NUMBER's to get in more AID. In 2010. 79% in Cebu now they will say 82% NEVER 100, or else how they would get money flowing in.

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The blood sucking vampire's they are. THEY WON"T CLOSE all the bars in Cebu or raid it all at once. Else, they won't have anything Evil to Kill and ask for more AID. Its a BUSINESS. Cebu bars will be opened but expect more raids from them to match on their numbers.

Starchild2012, that is your best post ever. These NGO parasites are desperate to find ways to justify their pitiful existence and keep the money rolling in so they can keep living "high on the hog".

i got the lowdown from my nbi contact they are cracking down on ****, it not just the ngo making trouble.

red lips had 16yo girls working there. even he was saying that the bar owners have to stop getting the younger girls in to work, and that they where warned.

[quote=frenzy3; 1296549]i got the lowdown from my nbi contact they are cracking down on ****, it not just the ngo making trouble.

red lips had 16yo girls working there. even he was saying that the bar owners have to stop getting the younger girls in to work, and that they where warned.[/quote]i think the problem lies with the mamasans / managers who should do their job better and really check the ages etc. this was the complaint in the ac thread also.

but life is not help but some ngos. some of whom i am sure go to bars purely for 'research' purposes

i would say the ngo helped them get info, i was red lips a few times and do not recall seeing any **** looking girls, or any private rooms. if a ngo went there asking for a younger look maybe the mama sun tried to help.

either way i would never own a bar in this town.

[QUOTE=Wicked Roger;1296653]I think the problem lies with the mamasans / managers who should do their job better and really check the ages etc.[/QUOTE]I don't have any sympathy for bars who employ under-age girls.

The rule everywhere is quite clear about this, whether guys want to quibble about it or not.

If, as WR says, the managers / mamasans are too lazy or stupid to do their due diligence about ages then they deserve all they get, whether it is an NGO or a City Council who "outs" them.

[QUOTE=Starchild2012; 1296376](...)
From Wikipedia.

[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Justice_Mission[/url]

International Justice Mission (IJM) is a USA-based non-profit human rights organization US based No surprises there.

(...)

Field offices: (...) Thailand, (...) [/QUOTE]Do they accept applications for field officers? If they need anyone to do some undercover checks of the Thailand agogo bar scene, I'm available. ;)

[QUOTE=Starchild2012; 1296376]Ohh International Justice Mission (IJM) is a USA-based non-profit human rights organization US based No surprises there. Budget US$24. 6 Million (annually, FY2010)

In 2010, IJM's Project Lantern reviewed[13] its programs in Cebu, Phillipines, supported by the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation[14] and concluded that there were 79% fewer minors in the sex trade in Cebu than before the program started, over 200 minors were rescued, over 700 law enforcement officials were trained, and over 100 traffickers were charged. In 2011, IJM stated that they had worked with local authorities to free over 2500 bonded laborers in the Indian states of Tamil Nadu and Andra Pradesh since 2001. [.[/QUOTE]But if they stated being so auccessfull, how comes the numbers are still there? It is like a CEO proud of having re-set the budget, getting a bonus and the year after the balance sheets are red again? Have been sleeping on his laurels that year? Enjoying the bonus?

Some great reader comments on the bar raid story: [url]http://www.sunstar.com.ph/cebu/local-news/2012/06/23/nbi-raids-bar-saves-trafficked-women-228283[/url]

Looks like Liza's in Mandaue has made the "trafficking" hit list.

[url]http://www.sunstar.com.ph/cebu/local-news/2012/08/18/17-women-rescued-pub-raid-238068[/url]

[url]http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/252164/couple-arrested-in-mandaue-bar-raid[/url]

i have been to liza's pub a few times, although some time ago.

i could never imagine that any of the women there were ****. far from it, they all seemed like thay had more than a few miles under their belts.

but nevertheless, i like it as a place to have a quiet and relaxed beer.

g

[quote=punter 127; 1316664]looks like liza's in mandaue has made the "trafficking" hit list.

[url]http://www.sunstar.com.ph/cebu/local-news/2012/08/18/17-women-rescued-pub-raid-238068[/url]

[url]http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/252164/couple-arrested-in-mandaue-bar-raid[/url][/quote]

[QUOTE=Punter 127; 1316664]Looks like Liza's in Mandaue has made the "trafficking" hit list.

[url]http://www.sunstar.com.ph/cebu/local-news/2012/08/18/17-women-rescued-pub-raid-238068[/url]

[url]http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/252164/couple-arrested-in-mandaue-bar-raid[/url][/QUOTE]But no punters mentioned and must have not been onsite or let go.

Always such a relief in the name of humanity when these girls are "rescued".

Anybody know if the bars are operating normally around Mango, etc? I'd read elsewhere that some were operating a no bar-fine policy, but would think that in practical terms, very littlepractical implication for us mongers.

Have tried to contact a few friends on the ground in Cebu, but they must all be pre-occupied so can't be all that bad!

Hello guys,

I will be in Cebu tomorrow, I have not been there since 2006. This was before I found this wonderful site and all the information.

I was hoping to go to Viking bar and some of the other well known Mango bars. Should I be concerned with all the raids? Will there be an issue getting a girl BF?

I would appreciate any info, the last time I went I was not prepared and I'll informed. This time I feel I am ready for a great experience.

Thanks

Its the forked tongued Washington based charity for profit IJM. As discussed countless times here, they want to keep up their numbers to get more funding from US government & foundations and Cebu is on the hit list.

[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Justice_Mission[/url]

In 2010, IJM's Project Lantern reviewed[13] its programs in Cebu, Phillipines, supported by the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation[14] and concluded that there were 79% fewer minors in the sex trade in Cebu than before the program started, over 200 minors were rescued, over 700 law enforcement officials were trained, and over 100 traffickers were charged.

[QUOTE=MiamiGuy76; 1317302]Hello guys,

I will be in Cebu tomorrow, I have not been there since 2006. This was before I found this wonderful site and all the information.

I was hoping to go to Viking bar and some of the other well known Mango bars. Should I be concerned with all the raids? Will there be an issue getting a girl BF?[/QUOTE]If it's not too late, there are plenty of ladies operating in Tagged at the moment. 2-3 polite messages with a lady should result in a phone number and meeting at Ayala.

I was in Cebu recently, and in Vikings.

They were still barfining girls there, so it looks like maybe a temporary blip on the radar screen.

G.

[QUOTE=MiamiGuy76; 1317302]Hello guys,

I will be in Cebu tomorrow, I have not been there since 2006. This was before I found this wonderful site and all the information.

I was hoping to go to Viking bar and some of the other well known Mango bars. Should I be concerned with all the raids? Will there be an issue getting a girl BF?

I would appreciate any info, the last time I went I was not prepared and I'll informed. This time I feel I am ready for a great experience.

Thanks[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Gangles; 1317924]I was in Cebu recently, and in Vikings.

They were still barfining girls there, so it looks like maybe a temporary blip on the radar screen.

G.[/QUOTE]Thanks Gangles,

Just got back from a great BF from Papillone.

[QUOTE=Gangles; 1317924]I was in Cebu recently, and in Vikings.

They were still barfining girls there, so it looks like maybe a temporary blip on the radar screen.

G.[/QUOTE]The force between pinay pussy and foreigner cash is very strong.

[quote=gangles; 1317924]i was in cebu recently, and in vikings.

they were still barfining girls there, so it looks like maybe a temporary blip on the radar screen.

g.[/quote]depends, depends, depends.

depends if there are any locals in the bar. depends if you are a regular customer and they know you. depends if you are asking multiple girls and the mamasan for specific barfine information. depends on the gossip going around in cebu about raids. depends if you brushed your teeth and used underarm. depends if you are an old horny devil and you need depends so you don't [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] your pants.

alot of bars in cebu are nervous these days. the raids are becoming more frequent and sometime the reason is **** and sometime it's license issues, and not just the payoff problems of old.

also look towards the front door when you are inside a bar in cebu. if there's a red light flashing it usually means its "code red" and no barfine activity is discussed. usually it's because there are locals in the bar who could be undercover. or it could mean i am in the bar and have pissed my pants, either way it's just another day in the queen city of the south.

enjoy cebu.

[quote=stroker ace88; 1318239]depends, depends, depends.

depends if there are any locals in the bar. depends if you are a regular customer and they know you. depends if you are asking multiple girls and the mamasan for specific barfine information. depends on the gossip going around in cebu about raids. depends if you brushed your teeth and used underarm. depends if you are an old horny devil and you need depends so you don't [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] your pants.

alot of bars in cebu are nervous these days. the raids are becoming more frequent and sometime the reason is **** and sometime it's license issues, and not just the payoff problems of old.

also look towards the front door when you are inside a bar in cebu. if there's a red light flashing it usually means its "code red" and no barfine activity is discussed. usually it's because there are locals in the bar who could be undercover. or it could mean i am in the bar and have pissed my pants, either way it's just another day in the queen city of the south.

enjoy cebu.[/quote]its all over for cebu, as long as ijm is around and they have more dollars than bars owners can think of paying off local cops.

[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/international_justice_mission[/url]

in 2010, ijm's project lantern reviewed[13] its programs in cebu, phillipines, supported by the bill and melinda gates foundation[14] and concluded that there were 79% fewer minors in the sex trade in cebu than before the program started, over 200 minors were rescued, over 700 law enforcement officials were trained, and over 100 traffickers were charged. in 2011, ijm stated that they had worked with local authorities to free over 2500 bonded laborers in the indian states of tamil nadu and andra pradesh since 2001.

these guys are sponsored by bill gates and us government of all people and they have millions and millions of dollar to play with. the ceo, presidente is a farang. who is a laywer and a hardcore christian. hahaha. no chance in hell now, it would be that easy anymore.

[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/gary_haugen[/url]

its all about business and the more number they show, the more money they get. don't bet on local undercover, the recent raid on liza pub in mandaue was carried out by andrey sawchenko, looks like an eastern european on a mission.

[url]http://www.sunstar.com.ph/cebu/local-news/2012/08/18/17-women-rescued-pub-raid-238068[/url]

i think it would be regular occurrence in cebu. more like every other month. 2000 pesos and there are plenty of farangs who would rat out like in pattaya during the raid. after a while they won't even need an excuse, they will just create one and raid. its all good business for them

[QUOTE=Starchild2012;1318280]Its all over for Cebu, as long as IJM is around and they have more dollars than bars owners can think of paying off local cops.[/quote]From what I have been told by a few current and former bar owners, they do not pay off the PNP. It's the local officials who will request some cash for there 're-election campaign'. Sometimes a few city officials will visit a bar and drink for free. They pick a BG who will be sent to a hotel room later and they don't pay for anything.

[quote]Its all about business and the more number they show, the more money they get. Don't bet on local undercover, The recent raid on liza pub in Mandaue was carried out by Andrey Sawchenko, looks like an eastern european on a mission.[/QUOTE]The red light near the front door is meant to warn the staff when locals are in the bar and a few bars have been using the system for years.

If a foreigner is hell-bent on visiting the bars and using that info to raid them it will be more difficult for a first time visitor to Cebu who just wants to barfine a cutie. The regular customers will have a chat with the mamasan, pay the barfine with his bill and meet the girl outside the bar.

The bar scene in Cebu has been going downhill for years IMO and owning a bar in Cebu is not a sound business plan.

Cebu is very catholic, most locals who can change things here do not like the bars, or to see Cebu become another AC, you can still exchange numbers with girls, if you live here and the bars know you and you spend up the girls may meet you.

Hi,

I have a friend that asked me if she could borrow money, I said no but she could earn it, so if any guy wants a hook up pm me for CP# she does live in lapu lapu though.

[QUOTE=Stroker Ace88;1318573]The bar scene in Cebu has been going downhill for years IMO and owning a bar in Cebu is not a sound business plan.[/QUOTE]Do you think that will lead to more freelancer activity? (if that is possible?)

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This thread is a classical example of too many Cebu threads nowadays.

Very few entries, last one about two months ago, same as multitude of other current Cebu threads. Have to look through all of them, just in case. Waste of time.

Put Cebu back where it was before, about three threads, example. 1. Bars and Nightlife. 2. Hotels and Restaurants. 3. Other Info

I heard recently the old club harem has re opened under a different name. Some japanese name. Anyone who lives there know what it's called now. Any mongers been there to give us update info.

[QUOTE=Boofa69;1344254]I heard recently the old club harem has re opened under a different name. Some japanese name. Anyone who lives there know what it's called now. Any mongers been there to give us update info.[/QUOTE]Last time I passed by it was a Korean karaoke joint, about 6 months ago.

[QUOTE=Stroker Ace88; 1318573]From what I have been told by a few current and former bar owners, they do not pay off the PNP. It's the local officials who will request some cash for there 're-election campaign'. Sometimes a few city officials will visit a bar and drink for free. They pick a BG who will be sent to a hotel room later and they don't pay for anything.

The red light near the front door is meant to warn the staff when locals are in the bar and a few bars have been using the system for years.

If a foreigner is hell-bent on visiting the bars and using that info to raid them it will be more difficult for a first time visitor to Cebu who just wants to barfine a cutie. The regular customers will have a chat with the mamasan, pay the barfine with his bill and meet the girl outside the bar.

The bar scene in Cebu has been going downhill for years IMO and owning a bar in Cebu is not a sound business plan.[/QUOTE]I hear Liza's is back open but under different terms. I think she no longer has all the girls, just a few serving drinks, kind of like standard western bar. I'll try to get more info in a few weeks. Kind of pointless if you ask me, it's really too far out of the way just for a drink, nice atmosphere though.

Totally agree. It is as if the current system was designed only to make it harder to research!

[QUOTE=Sxxxx; 1336827]This thread is a classical example of too many Cebu threads nowadays.

Very few entries, last one about two months ago, same as multitude of other current Cebu threads. Have to look through all of them, just in case. Waste of time.

Put Cebu back where it was before, about three threads, example. 1. Bars and Nightlife. 2. Hotels and Restaurants. 3. Other Info[/QUOTE]

Any opinions about this place?

Last time I was there I bought a gal a ladies drink and had a beer. Came back about two hours later, walked in and told the waitress just a minute, I am looking for someone (previous gal). Next thing I know this guy with a thick Aussie accent, real neanderthal type, askes me: "do you like the girls mate, do you like the air conditioning mate, buy a drink or get the f out."

Is this place that bad, or did I hit it on the wrong night?

You can't expect the owners, managers, or even customers at these places to be polite or classy. If you're not sure that you want to stay, just order an overpriced bottle of water. Then just take it with you if you want to exit early. There are some ISG member who dislike certain east asians that come in, don't order anything, get gals paraded in front of them, point at what they want or sometimes don't point. And then walk out. You will never see that happen at LS. At least I haven't yet. So maybe they have a non-discriminatory policy. You come in, you order a drink. Every place has it's pros and cons. I just wish there were more places in Cebu.

Does anyone remember the (now gone) Firehouse about half way between downtown and midtown. I liked that place before it became a warm beer place. Then it disappeared. As for edgy mama and managers, the Black Hole was the Cat's Meow.

[QUOTE=HenryV; 1345037]Any opinions about this place?

Last time I was there I bought a gal a ladies drink and had a beer. Came back about two hours later, walked in and told the waitress just a minute, I am looking for someone (previous gal). Next thing I know this guy with a thick Aussie accent, real neanderthal type, askes me: "do you like the girls mate, do you like the air conditioning mate, buy a drink or get the f out."

Is this place that bad, or did I hit it on the wrong night?[/QUOTE]

I was having Hot tea at the lone star and the Aussie guy comes by and ask why I am not drinking beer. I ordered two just to shut him up. He did not seem like a nice person to customers he did not know.

One time I was the only customer in there during prime time. I got up and left. I wonder if the girls keep dancing if no customers are there? Kind of like a tree that falls in the forest and no one is there to hear it. So does it make a sound?

I agree that a few guys have met a Aussie with attitude, it still a good bar to meet girls, since you go there to meet girls and not men just let the mysterious Aussie go back to his chair and enjoy the dancers.

I never had any guy complain that I do not buy a drink or bar fine any girls there I only buy a water if I am thirsty and play pool. Maybe I am that aussie that you are talking about? Is he 6'3 and 245 lb (110kg)?

Polite or classy? Civility will do.

How good of a bar can it be anymore if you are greeted with" "buy a beer or get the fuck out." As Hannibal Lector once said: "discourtesy is unspeakable ugly to me."

Lastly, only you can tell me if you are the one who, before I even had a chance to sit down, told me to buy a beer or get the f out.

[QUOTE=Frenzy3; 1345458]I agree that a few guys have met a Aussie with attitude, it still a good bar to meet girls, since you go there to meet girls and not men just let the mysterious Aussie go back to his chair and enjoy the dancers.

I never had any guy complain that I do not buy a drink or bar fine any girls there I only buy a water if I am thirsty and play pool. Maybe I am that aussie that you are talking about? Is he 6'3 and 245 lb (110kg)?[/QUOTE]

A few years ago I believe it was the black Hole that had a real good looking mamson. I think she was a manason, she hung out at the bar and tried to pawn a girl off to you.

Last time I was in Cebu (7 mo ago) I walked down to where the firehouse was, did not see any sign of life.

I know this is vague, but its the best I have to go on; there was a bar somewhat out of the way and on top of a hill that someone told me is up and going again. It was a larger place with a big stage type dance floor. There was a big clique of gals that hung out left of the stage. Fished a few out of there a number of years ago. Again, I know it is not much to go on, but was wondering if anyone else heard of it's revival.

Does anyone remember the (now gone) Firehouse about half way between downtown and midtown. I liked that place before it became a warm beer place. Then it disappeared. As for edgy mama and managers, the Black Hole was the Cat's Meow.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=HenryV; 1345464]Polite or classy? Civility will do.

How good of a bar can it be anymore if you are greeted with" "buy a beer or get the fuck out." As Hannibal Lector once said: "discourtesy is unspeakable ugly to me."

Lastly, only you can tell me if you are the one who, before I even had a chance to sit down, told me to buy a beer or get the f out.[/QUOTE]As far as I know owner of LoneStar is a South African who migrated to Australia. He likes to push the Aussie barrow. His attitude might come from the Apartheid days. What he has to remember is times have changed. Its not the first time I have heard him telling customers to "fuck off". Mood swings. The guy has been awfully sweet one min and told same guy to fuck off next. I was there, saw it happen. Never bothered to return, and never will. He does not fit into the Cebu scene and he himself will be told to "fuck off" one day.

Lone Star. 'Lone' is most appropriate in his case. But 'Star', not, LOL

My girlfriend and I are coming to Cebu for the first time. We have been to Thailand, Colombia, and Panama among other places and will enjoy threesome action at times.

She's very attractive and girls always like her.

How easy or difficult will it be to meet very nice girls that would be interested in joining the two of us?

Are there some bars in particular that cater to this or are they all basically the same?

[quote=henryv; 1345464]polite or classy? civility will do.

how good of a bar can it be anymore if you are greeted with" "buy a beer or get the fuck out." as hannibal lector once said: "discourtesy is unspeakable ugly to me."

lastly, only you can tell me if you are the one who, before i even had a chance to sit down, told me to buy a beer or get the f out.[/quote]graham, the owner of lonestar (and silver dollar) can be quite rep001hing at time but i think this is just his humor and way to gauge the personality of people. i'm not saying it's proper or acceptable, but i think when you get to know him its an easier personality to deal with. that said, without being confrontational, i'm quite a feisty character myself and give as good as i get when it comes to banter, but i can fully understand how people may be offended especially not there as part of a group where an equally rep001hing response is easier to come by.

often graham has bought the regulars a beer when i've been in there and, on his own, is quite a good guy to sit and have a beer and a bit of witty conversation with. and i agree with x-man, the atmosphere for me is much more amiable than vikings, erik the reds etc because of the clientele. more likely to get hearty banter both amongst the customers and the girls, than girls lining up to the highest bidder. i actually favor silver dollar over lonestar, but some of my friends are the other way around. but to each his own, surely there is somewhere for everyone in cebu!

[QUOTE=HenryV;1345470]Does anyone remember the (now gone) Firehouse about half way between downtown and midtown. I liked that place before it became a warm beer place. Then it disappeared.[/QUOTE][/QUOTE]Club Harem was closed by authorities, now re-opened under different name. Taxi drivers still know it as Club Harem. P100 entrance, think it was P100 beer and a silly P300 for ladies drinks. Didn't see anything there worthy of a P300 drink. Top off for all of them, some bottom too, especially the less pretty ones, LOL. Pinoy place where you would have to behave or suffer the consequences. Some distance out, I shall not return, unless they get back to the top standards they had some time ago.

Firehouse has been non existent for years, anything three to five years in my estimation. I always looked down the laneway to see if there was any life in the place. Patient did not recover from bad reputation it started to build, plus being down an alleyway was no help.

Someone on this page, down below, has posted "once you get to know owner of Lone Star, he is good guy' sort of thing. Well, he does not let you get to know him unless you quickly start ordering ladies drinks and pay his rip off all up front barfine I have heard about, which includes bar fine and a forced substantial girl tip before the girl even leaves the premises, all up, paid up front, admittedly applies usually only to newbies, which equates to a rip off in my opinion. If you are a big spender he is nice, if your looking for value without being a cheap charlie, you run the risk of being told to fuck off. In another separate case, a friend of mine was there and witnessed a guy enter, he ordered and got his beer, starting drinking then asked cashier next to him what was the price of ladies drinks and the barfine. Owner was sitting two bar stools away, he turned around and shouted out aloud "fuck off", thats all. His Security with gun was standing next to him. Think he should rename bar Intimidation. Feel sorry for the girls, must be hell working for someone like that.

[QUOTE=Sxxxx; 1347261]As far as I know owner of LoneStar is a South African who migrated to Australia. He likes to push the Aussie barrow. His attitude might come from the Apartheid days. What he has to remember is times have changed. Its not the first time I have heard him telling customers to "fuck off". Mood swings. The guy has been awfully sweet one min and told same guy to fuck off next. I was there, saw it happen. Never bothered to return, and never will. He does not fit into the Cebu scene and he himself will be told to "fuck off" one day.

Lone Star. 'Lone' is most appropriate in his case. But 'Star', not, LOL[/QUOTE]Graham can never be confused with someone who cares about customer service. He doesn't give a flying jerjer if the guys who come into his bars have a good time or if the girls provide good service and take good care of the guys. He doesn't care if the girls barfine or just become drink sluts because at the end of the day he is not concerned with making a profit. Enough said.

I have been in Lonestar and have witnessed his wild mood swings. He often yells at looky-loo's "you like the free aircon, you like the free look at the girls, well buy a fuckin' drink because' this bar doesn't run on FREE!". He does have a point sometimes. I have seen guys come in and stand around and try to get a CP number or barfine a girl without buying a drink and when asked by a mamasan to buy a drink they run into the CR. These guys are cheap charlies not regulars who often will barfine the same girl several days in a row. One guy actually took out his reading glasses and tried to get as close to the stage as possible to look at the girls. Lucky all he got was words thrown at him and not something heavier LOL.

Graham doesn't care if the girls take good care of the guys, if they provide good service or if they turn into drink-sluts with no intention of being barfined. The girls in his bars have developed bad habits.

At the end of the day it is his bars, his rules, his money, but it's also his loss. I voted with my feet and took my pesos somewhere else that provides better service and hires GRO's that want to be barfined and make the customer happy.

[QUOTE=Sxxxx;1347480][/QUOTE]Someone on this page, down below, has posted "once you get to know owner of Lone Star, he is good guy' sort of thing. Well, he does not let you get to know him unless you quickly start ordering ladies drinks and pay his rip off all up front barfine I have heard about, which includes bar fine and a forced substantial girl tip before the girl even leaves the premises, all up, paid up front, admittedly applies usually only to newbies, which equates to a rip off in my opinion. If you are a big spender he is nice, if your looking for value without being a cheap charlie, you run the risk of being told to fuck off. In another separate case, a friend of mine was there and witnessed a guy enter, he ordered and got his beer, starting drinking then asked cashier next to him what was the price of ladies drinks and the barfine. Owner was sitting two bar stools away, he turned around and shouted out aloud "fuck off", thats all. His Security with gun was standing next to him. Think he should rename bar Intimidation. Feel sorry for the girls, must be hell working for someone like that.[/QUOTE]I'm with Stroker on the cheap charlie thing. With all due respect, your friend sounds like someone I would tell to f*k off as well and not really somebody I would want in my bar either. I find the atmosphere a million times better than some of those on mango filled with Korean's who line up the girls in a demeaning way and show about the same level of personality and banter of the cockroaches that scurry at their feet. I do find myself thinking that some would find more what they are looking for in Pattaya more and more these days. But to each his own, I'd like to think there are a few people who can hold a conversation and drink a beer without being grotesque 24/7.

Let your feet do the talking. There are enough bars on Mango to accommodate everyone's tastes, never mind in Cebu as a whole. I've only ever had one problem with a girl from there, I told Graham and the next one was on the house. Would I have the problem resolved with one of the mamasans elsewhere? I don't know, but I doubt it would be so easy. Personally, I think there are more attractive women in other bars than Lonestar. There are plenty in Planet-x, but on more than one occasion I've been tipped off that the girls do not have up-to-date health cards. Who knows? Besides, I'm now told that the rules have changed so that the entirety of the fee goes to the girl and she works out an agreement with the bar. I don't know if its still the case, but I'll be back in 2-weeks to find out.

As for whether its hell to work there, I am fortunate to know most of the girls personally, many of whom have been there several years and they always tell me they love their job (both the waitresses / bar tenders and the GRO's) and how Graham will often treat them to parties so its far from hell. Again, they'd just walk into another bar if that was the case. The ex-pat atmosphere has always been good when I've been there, which is certainly more than can be said for some others. Sxxxx, you talk like you know everything about these places but then use the phrase "I have heard about". I prefer to listen to the opinions and experience of people who have actually been in the bars they are critical of, or equally, quick to praise.

[QUOTE=Jimmy Di; 1347330]My girlfriend and I are coming to Cebu for the first time. We have been to Thailand, Colombia, and Panama among other places and will enjoy threesome action at times.

She's very attractive and girls always like her.

How easy or difficult will it be to meet very nice girls that would be interested in joining the two of us?

Are there some bars in particular that cater to this or are they all basically the same?[/QUOTE]JD

Like in any bar just ask, set your menu and be prepared to pay. Make sure she is what she says and will do what you agree and make sure again, get your girl to ask as some will say yes and then be 'shy'.

Some 'nice girls' maybe curious IMHO but if you are there for a ST then nice girls turning bi curious into full bi takes time. Effort is needed.

Check your PMs

[QUOTE=Jimmy Di;1347330]How easy or difficult will it be to meet very nice girls that would be interested in joining the two of us?[/QUOTE]I too have a penchant for 3somes and I had moderate success when I visited Cebu, but as WR stated it will require a bit more effort. One thing to keep in mind is that a lot of girls may agree to a 3some, but their idea of it is taking turns and not a full "girl on girl" encounter. So you want to be specific to the point of at least finding out if she will allow your girl to touch her and of course go down on her.

Good luck and I look forward to your FR's; hopefully accompanied with some photo's.

[QUOTE=Jimmy Di; 1347330]My girlfriend and I are coming to Cebu for the first time. QUOTE]

Forgot to ask, when are you planning to visit? If you've RTFF you'll know that certain times of the year may be better than others, like when tuition is due.

I haven't been to Lone Star in Cebu for around 5 months so I guess it is possible that in that time Graham might have turned schizoid or something.

I must say that reading some experiences here related to Graham's behavior makes me wonder if I do live in one of Murakami's parallel universes.

I have NEVER seen anything like what is reported here.

I am not saying it couldn't or didn't happen but I can only surmise that a few incidents must have tipped Graham "over the edge" regarding punters abusing his bar in some way.

He has always been welcoming to me and has always greeted me in the same friendly way.

He knows I look after Mummy Josephine too who always, in turn, looks after me. I must go back again soon and see what transformation has taken place in the bar.

[QUOTE=Red Kilt; 1348017]I haven't been to Lone Star in Cebu for around 5 months so I guess it is possible that in that time Graham might have turned schizoid or something.

I must say that reading some experiences here related to Graham's behavior makes me wonder if I do live in one of Murakami's parallel universes.

I have NEVER seen anything like what is reported here.

I am not saying it couldn't or didn't happen but I can only surmise that a few incidents must have tipped Graham "over the edge" regarding punters abusing his bar in some way.

He has always been welcoming to me and has always greeted me in the same friendly way.

He knows I look after Mummy Josephine too who always, in turn, looks after me. I must go back again soon and see what transformation has taken place in the bar.[/QUOTE]It's been going on for years, not months. As always YMMV.

Based on the coduct of the owner (Lone Star) , I would sooner coil up with a snake than get to know him.

I, too, voted with my feet and never went back. I will tell everyone I know to avoid both the Lone Star and the Silver Dollar.

[QUOTE=Sxxxx;1347480][/QUOTE]Someone on this page, down below, has posted "once you get to know owner of Lone Star, he is good guy' sort of thing. Well, he does not let you get to know him unless you quickly start ordering ladies drinks and pay his rip off all up front barfine I have heard about, which includes bar fine and a forced substantial girl tip before the girl even leaves the premises, all up, paid up front, admittedly applies usually only to newbies, which equates to a rip off in my opinion. If you are a big spender he is nice, if your looking for value without being a cheap charlie, you run the risk of being told to fuck off. In another separate case, a friend of mine was there and witnessed a guy enter, he ordered and got his beer, starting drinking then asked cashier next to him what was the price of ladies drinks and the barfine. Owner was sitting two bar stools away, he turned around and shouted out aloud "fuck off", thats all. His Security with gun was standing next to him. Think he should rename bar Intimidation. Feel sorry for the girls, must be hell working for someone like that.[/QUOTE]

Thanks for the info.

Will be in Cebu in a coupe months, anything new, or improved in the Colon Street area. Have not been down there for quite a while.

[QUOTE=Sxxxx;1347480][/QUOTE]Club Harem was closed by authorities, now re-opened under different name. Taxi drivers still know it as Club Harem. P100 entrance, think it was P100 beer and a silly P300 for ladies drinks. Didn't see anything there worthy of a P300 drink. Top off for all of them, some bottom too, especially the less pretty ones, LOL. Pinoy place where you would have to behave or suffer the consequences. Some distance out, I shall not return, unless they get back to the top standards they had some time ago.

Firehouse has been non existent for years, anything three to five years in my estimation. I always looked down the laneway to see if there was any life in the place. Patient did not recover from bad reputation it started to build, plus being down an alleyway was no help.

Someone on this page, down below, has posted "once you get to know owner of Lone Star, he is good guy' sort of thing. Well, he does not let you get to know him unless you quickly start ordering ladies drinks and pay his rip off all up front barfine I have heard about, which includes bar fine and a forced substantial girl tip before the girl even leaves the premises, all up, paid up front, admittedly applies usually only to newbies, which equates to a rip off in my opinion. If you are a big spender he is nice, if your looking for value without being a cheap charlie, you run the risk of being told to fuck off. In another separate case, a friend of mine was there and witnessed a guy enter, he ordered and got his beer, starting drinking then asked cashier next to him what was the price of ladies drinks and the barfine. Owner was sitting two bar stools away, he turned around and shouted out aloud "fuck off", thats all. His Security with gun was standing next to him. Think he should rename bar Intimidation. Feel sorry for the girls, must be hell working for someone like that.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Pip Jaeger; 1348012][QUOTE=Jimmy Di; 1347330]My girlfriend and I are coming to Cebu for the first time. QUOTE]

Forgot to ask, when are you planning to visit? If you've RTFF you'll know that certain times of the year may be better than others, like when tuition is due.[/QUOTE]We're planning to visit either January or February and thinking about one week in Cebu and one week in Boracay, more or less. Does that sound appropriate?

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[QUOTE=Pip Jaeger; 1348012]We're planning to visit either January or February and thinking about one week in Cebu and one week in Boracay, more or less. Does that sound appropriate?[/QUOTE]January in Cebu can be very wet, one year it rained every day in January I was there. Stopped me from going to a planned Bohol trip. Why go there? Stay where I was with the cutie

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[QUOTE=Jimmy Di; 1348420]January in Cebu can be very wet, one year it rained every day in January I was there. Stopped me from going to a planned Bohol trip. Why go there? Stay where I was with the cutie[/QUOTE]Agreed. January used to the the start of 'summer, ' the rainy season over, but it might be climate change that is making January rainy like December.

[QUOTE=Wicked Roger; 1348521][QUOTE=Jimmy Di; 1348420]January in Cebu can be very wet, one year it rained every day in January I was there. Stopped me from going to a planned Bohol trip. Why go there? Stay where I was with the cutie[/QUOTE]What month would you suggest? Ans where did you stay?

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[QUOTE=Wicked Roger; 1348521]What month would you suggest? Ans where did you stay?[/QUOTE]I prefer March and April before the rains but I also like October and Novemeber (but was toild it was raining yet again!)

In Cebu I stay at the Hotel Elizabeth, In Bohol thee are a few nice place and Alona Beachh is popular

This one says Cebu gets 10 inches of rain even in April, but I think that's wrong. Most graphs say only around 25 mm.

Sorry for the out of thread topic.

[url]http://www.tripadvisor.com/Travel-g294261-s208/Cebu:Philippines:Weather.And.When.To.Go.html[/url]

[QUOTE=Gettin Trim;1349148]This one says Cebu gets 10 inches of rain even in April, but I think that's wrong. Most graphs say only around 25 mm.[/QUOTE]All graphs represented on tourism websites give an average rainfall or maximum and minimum temps based on previous records.

They cannot be used to determine what will happen in a 2-week visit.

My experience with Cebu (or virtually anywhere in the tropics) is that it can rain like the clappers or be stinking humid hot at any time of year, despite what you might hope for. However, in recent years, there has been quite unexpected heavy rains OUTSIDE of the usual rainy season boundaries, particularly in Visayas. Today in Manila it has been extremely hot; so much so that the lobby of my condo closed the doors and turned on the lobby aircons which is usually only done in high summer time.

Despite these unpredictable perturbations, in general, Philippines is cooler from November to end of February. In Northern Luzon around Christmas and New Year, there are actually low-lying fogs in the morning and a coat of some sort is needed later at night and especially early morning as it gets very cool.

The cold shower with the ground water from the well and the bucket and pail is no fun when you are roughing it with the locals.

I went there Friday night and as usual the entrance is 200 guys 500 girls, the ladies drink is 600 per hour and they say there is no barfine, you can have a VIP room if you buy a ladies drink, all in all I saw a few girls I would barfine what I like about arena is the girls may do a bar fine once a month, I had to chat up the mamasan to get her to tell me I could bar fine but you have to buy her a ladies drink before she will let you, the bar fine is 7000

I always like arena and I will keep going there, tonight they have a party for their 16 birthday, so I am sure they will be arround for a long time

RK, I've noticed the same thing. I tend to go direct to Cebu in July to avoid the Luzon rains, but include MNL / AC on my Dec / Jan trips. But my most recent trip Dec / Jan I had plenty of sunshine in MNL / AC, but lots of cloudy rainy weather on Cebu island. I spent three days at Moalboal and didn't even get a tan line.

[QUOTE=Red Kilt; 1349560]All graphs represented on tourism websites give an average rainfall or maximum and minimum temps based on previous records.

They cannot be used to determine what will happen in a 2-week visit.

My experience with Cebu (or virtually anywhere in the tropics) is that it can rain like the clappers or be stinking humid hot at any time of year, despite what you might hope for. However, in recent years, there has been quite unexpected heavy rains OUTSIDE of the usual rainy season boundaries, particularly in Visayas. Today in Manila it has been extremely hot; so much so that the lobby of my condo closed the doors and turned on the lobby aircons which is usually only done in high summer time.

Despite these unpredictable perturbations, in general, Philippines is cooler from November to end of February. In Northern Luzon around Christmas and New Year, there are actually low-lying fogs in the morning and a coat of some sort is needed later at night and especially early morning as it gets very cool.

The cold shower with the ground water from the well and the bucket and pail is no fun when you are roughing it with the locals.[/QUOTE]

I spent a week in Cebu and didn't barfine at all. One gal I knew from before, one gal from the Internet, and a dia gal I met in MNL last year who was kind enough to visit me from Mindanao.

I did pop into a few of the bars. The thing I notice about Cebu girly bars is that you often see the same faces. One lady I've known for three years. Yikes. THis trip I especially liked Maverick and Pussycats. That's odd, because those bars used to have the less attractive gals. I even met an architecture student who was quite nice to talk to. And seemed to have a naughty streak.

I've heard that Liza's in Mandaue has reopened, but I never made it out there. I did text one of her girls and she seemed willing to come over for a visit. Sadly, I couldn't squeeze her in.

Restaurant notes:

Vienna cafe continues to serve good Italian food in the middle of Mango bar area.

I noticed a Spanish restaurant on Ramos near the Diplomat. Has anyone eaten there?

Abuhan on Ramos always had good food and was open all night. I didn't eat there this time, but I did notice that there is a "for rent" sign at the front. So does anyone have any late night alternatives in the Fuente Osmena / Mango area?

X

[QUOTE=X Man;1372237]I spent three days at Moalboal and didn't even get a tan line.[/QUOTE]X.

That is because you were in the room all the time coming out only at night for air LOL

WR, there may be some merit to what you've written, but my pale skin only takes about 30 min of Philippine sunshine to turn a bright red. Nevertheless, the gal basically said I could have it whenever I wanted it and she kept to her word. In fact, I tried to get her out of the room as much as possible. If we were in the room and there was any lull in the action over about 40 minutes she'd start making almost imperceptible touches to her nether regions. If not distracted she would eventually be giving me that longing look with her fingers firmly on her panties / love spot. She just about killed me!

Note for next time I meet her. Get her some sexier panties. And maybe some Asian Rain-style thigh socks.

[QUOTE=Wicked Roger; 1372783]X.

That is because you were in the room all the time coming out only at night for air LOL[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Pimpin Sam;1349148]This one says Cebu gets 10 inches of rain even in April, but I think that's wrong. Most graphs say only around 25 mm.[/QUOTE]10 inch is about 25 cm, not 25mm. Someone must have gotten their conversion factors wrong.

April is actually the driest month: [url]http://www.weather-and-climate.com/average-monthly-Rainfall-Temperature-Sunshine,Cebu,Philippines[/url]

I've heard about a place in Mandaue, but never made it. Name is? M20? Sorry. Never made it to Pump this time, but enjoyed it in the past.

Between Fuente Osmena circle and the Mango bars (walking distance) there is the so-called Mango Square (or is it Mango One?) with discos, restaurants, bars, etc. As has been reported there have been some changes. There is a new disco called Alcohology, or something like that. THe old Julianas has been renovated and is called J Ave. I went to both places and much preferred J Ave. The music was better, the freelancers were better, and the toilets worked.

There are several other places in this complex. At least one seemed to have a live band, but I'm not sure. Outside J Ave you will find girls looking, you will also find quite a few lady boys. In the wee hours, this is a place to keep your wits. I grabbed a skinny little arm out of my pocket once as I was getting into a taxi. Street kid.

I really miss the Sunflower club with its live bands. A big city like Cebu needs a Sunflower.

[QUOTE=X Man; 1372799]I've heard about a place in Mandaue, but never made it. Name is? M20? Sorry. Never made it to Pump this time, but enjoyed it in the past.

Between Fuente Osmena circle and the Mango bars (walking distance) there is the so-called Mango Square (or is it Mango One?) with discos, restaurants, bars, etc. As has been reported there have been some changes. There is a new disco called Alcohology, or something like that. THe old Julianas has been renovated and is called J Ave. I went to both places and much preferred J Ave. The music was better, the freelancers were better, and the toilets worked.

There are several other places in this complex. At least one seemed to have a live band, but I'm not sure. Outside J Ave you will find girls looking, you will also find quite a few lady boys. In the wee hours, this is a place to keep your wits. I grabbed a skinny little arm out of my pocket once as I was getting into a taxi. Street kid.

I really miss the Sunflower club with its live bands. A big city like Cebu needs a Sunflower.[/QUOTE]That would be MO2 located next to Parkmall Mandaue, NRA.

Juilians name change was a long time ago. Alcohology has been opened a long time, maybe a year+, not new.

[QUOTE=Stroker Ace88; 1372995]That would be MO2 located next to Parkmall Mandaue, NRA.

Juilians name change was a long time ago. Alcohology has been opened a long time, maybe a year+, not new.[/QUOTE]MO2 is a good place for live music and is fun also. J Ave is expanding and a much bigger one is planned (but people stll refer to it as Julianas. I do sometimes and I know the owners!)

I spent the week before Christmas in Cebu and tried to visit as many bars as possible.

I always enjoy the company of bar girls and when they have a modest understanding of English like they do in the Phils, is a real pleasure for me. I don't worry so much if the girls are 9's or not. They all had beautiful smiles, great attitude and created the illusion that I was in Shangri-la. I am a real sucker for it and I was rarely disappointed in any of the Cebu bars.

Some general comments.

I found the bars to be relatively quite (compared to my trip 4 years ago in April) – lots of customers back home with family for Christmas, and some bars were closed Christmas / Christmas eve. I found a similar thing when I arrived in Manila on Christmas day.

Some positives about this. The girl to customer ratio was high and I guess the theory is it makes the girls compete more for our attention. In lots of the bars (Lone Star, Planet x, Viking, Sister, Dimples to mention some) I never had a problem with 4 or more girls trying to surround and fool around with me. Frequently I was the only customer.

Now some negatives. I think because the girls were more 'hungry', they lied more (well that's my feeling). I had girls trying to hide periods or illness and who shouldn't have been in the bar in the first place.

Overall the level of activity was very mixed. A bar could be rocking at midnight but dead a few hours after. The girls looked lethargic and more bored than usual. Or they just gave up and slumped in the lounges or dark corners of the bar like they were sleeping and this made it hard to screen the available talent.

While I am winging, I found the bars aggressive with lady drinks as well. Not sure if they were trying to compensate for lack or customers or something else.

I routinely buy lady drinks and sometimes I was overly generous as well. But that never slowed down the waitresses. However I always found was that whenever I politely said 'no' to a waitresses, she did seem to respect it, for at least 20 minutes anyway.

The Silver Dollar.

I never visited the Silver Dollar on my earlier Cebu trip so I was surprised (and pleased) to find it close to my hotel (Crown Regency Towers). After entering the Dollar, I sat down, ordered a beer and quickly got crowded by smiling angels. I got this warm reception almost every time I went there.

The Silver dollar is a long but narrow place. When sitting at the bar the dancers are only a few meters away in front of you, and you can freely mingle with the girls around. The expats / regulars I met there were a friendly bunch. A few times I bought one a drink and picked his brain about girls but unfortunately never followed up on any tips. My bad, but so many distractions.

On my second day at the Silver Dollar I take out 2 girls. I don't think they were the best girls there but after 2 days of molesting me I finally gave into their wicked ways. My other blunder was forgetting their names, so for this report I will be boring and just call them Girl 1 and 2.

Both girls were cute and relatively petite. Girl 1 was 27 years, more energetic and lively of the two and appeared to have more experience. Girl 2 was younger, I think 23 and a little taller as well.

After settling the account for them, (2800P each) , we first go to Robinsons which is 2 minutes away. I buy the girls a bikini each (total was 1250 P). We come back to the hotel, change, girl wrap in towels and with drinks in hand we go find the swimming pool. Now, this time of year there are about 100 Korean families at the hotel. I can estimate from their gazes what many were thinking, and its not the kind of attention I look for, but to the girls credit they didn't ham it up and we all still had a great time.

After the swim we just towel off and go straight to the room. Both girls assured me they were experienced in 3'somes which is what I wanted to hear as my previous experiment with directing one ended in a shamble.

Well this is what happened. We get out of our swimmers and ready for a group shower when Girl 2 comes into the bathroom excited and apologetic telling me about 'having blood' and displaying the evidence. Not a good start After her performance was finished she still insisted she was ok for vaginal intercourse. Not sure if she was really sincere, but given the other girl had a pussy in working condition I declined her offer, and told her she can watch me when I am with Girl1.

Now as soon as Girl 1 was ready, she wanted to mount me lying on my back. I mean she really wanted to mount me. The period girl comes out of the bathroom and now asks if she can go on faceook when I am having sex with her friend. It kind of make me loose my train of thought and Girl 1 is putting a condom on but I tell the period girl she can now give me a double blow job with her friend which she agrees to this. But then Girl 1 mounts and start riding me and doesn't stop.

Girl 1 rode me like she hadn't had sex in a long time. I admit while it wasn't my plan, there is something satisfying about being used like that, and after she 'got off' she let me have my way with her.

So over all another failed 3some and some lessons learnt but I was more determined than ever to try it again another day.

Lovecity.

The set up in Lovecity is a bit different to most other bars in Cebu. In one corner there is a small bar but most customers sit around in lounges which surround a central pole dancer stage. To one side of the stage are about 10 rows of seats which is where the girls sit and mill around, and depending on where you sit you could easily view them.

Another difference here is because the girls are not sitting 'at a bar' and not free mingling, you need to formally select the girl to sit with you. This is more of a Korean style setup I think and not to everyone's taste.

The girls were kept on constant rotation to dance. Usually just 1 or 2 at a time. With a few dozen or more girls available, they always seemed fresh. On average the girls tried harder to dance. But the crazy thing was, the dance pole was not smooth but had ribs in it which prevented the girls from smooth sliding and doing real pole dancing. Argh!

Something else I noticed, is the girls dressed how they liked and also chose the songs they danced to. On one night there, I watched a girl called Emilaya get on stage wearing nipple tassels and a g-string. This is as close to full nudity as possible I think in Cebu.

Emilaya has a sexy body, obvious tattoos, is a good and strong dancer, and danced to a rap / hip hop mix. The outfit, dance, and personality all went well together.

As a side note, I like to watch girls differentiate themselves. It makes the bars more interesting and our job easier when selecting them. Unfortunately most girls at Lovecity still played it safe and Emilaya was more the exception I think.

A ltttle more about Emilaya, she previously worked at Vikings, was 26 and probably one of the oldest girls there. One another day I was able to arrange a day time date with her. We done the buy a bikini at Robinsons / swim and drink by the pool / back to bedroom routine. She was no superstar but a good companion, no complaints about her.

Regarding the barfines, Lovecity is 4000P while most other bars are in the 2800 to 3300P range. I am not sure if this price difference is supposed to reflect a higher quality of girls. I was told that many girls at Lovecity speak better Korean than English if that's any clue. I think they did try harder to dance and I liked their presentation a little better, but for the most part I found the quality of girls between all the cebu to be mostly good and similar.

And one final side note. Frequently when I asked girls, they didn't have or forgot to bring their swim wear. Fortunately, Robinsons department store was just around the corner for me and each time, the girls didn't waste time or too much money- Emilayas cost 500P and another girls, MJ was about the same.

Anyway, I don't like the feeling that I might be seen as some kind of sex tourist pervert in the lingerie department waiting for his bar girls (though mostly true).

But every time I went there, there always seemed to be an excessive number of department stores girls just doing nothing and looking at me. This is Christmas time and they should all be busy! But that's the Phils for productivity.

I had a lot of experiences in Cebu so will try to write one more installment in this section.

[QUOTE=KingsWood; 1377516]I spent the week before Christmas in Cebu and tried to visit as many bars as possible.

I always enjoy the company of bar girls and when they have a modest understanding of English like they do in the Phils, is a real pleasure for me. I don't worry so much if the girls are 9's or not. They all had beautiful smiles, great attitude and created the illusion that I was in Shangri-la. I am a real sucker for it and I was rarely disappointed in any of the Cebu bars.

Some general comments.

I found the bars to be relatively quite (compared to my trip 4 years ago in April) – lots of customers back home with family for Christmas, and some bars were closed Christmas / Christmas eve. I found a similar thing when I arrived in Manila on Christmas day.[/QUOTE]Christmas, Sinulog and Holy Week are bad times to visit IMO if your plan is to chase BG's. Many girls are busy with holiday activities and couldn't care less if you are in town. Some take time off from the bar to go back and visit family in the province.

[quote]Some positives about this. The girl to customer ratio was high and I guess the theory is it makes the girls compete more for our attention. In lots of the bars (Lone Star, Planet x, Viking, Sister, Dimples to mention some) I never had a problem with 4 or more girls trying to surround and fool around with me. Frequently I was the only customer.[/quote]See my comment above. You visited a few days before Christmas and customers in the bars are few that time of the year. Also IMO the bar business in Cebu is not a money-making operation by any means and the sector has been in serious decline since 2007. There currently is one bar in Cebu that's for sale for around 35000USD. That's alot less than the expat owner paid when he bought the club. I personally know of half a dozen previous expat bar owners who lost everything after buying a gogo bar in Cebu and then pissed away their life savings trying to maintain a bar. Total money pit. The customers are just not there.

For the most part when a guy comes to Cebu the first couple of times they start off banging bargirls but quickly find all the filipina pussy they want online or by chance encounters around town. Paying 2800++ for a bargirl gets old fast when you can meet and bang a semi-pro for 500-1500php depending on the girl. Cebu is better known for non-pro GFE filipinas, and not for bars.

[quote]Now some negatives. I think because the girls were more 'hungry', they lied more (well that's my feeling). I had girls trying to hide periods or illness and who shouldn't have been in the bar in the first place.

Overall the level of activity was very mixed. A bar could be rocking at midnight but dead a few hours after. The girls looked lethargic and more bored than usual. Or they just gave up and slumped in the lounges or dark corners of the bar like they were sleeping and this made it hard to screen the available talent.

While I am winging, I found the bars aggressive with lady drinks as well. Not sure if they were trying to compensate for lack or customers or something else.

I routinely buy lady drinks and sometimes I was overly generous as well. But that never slowed down the waitresses. However I always found was that whenever I politely said 'no' to a waitresses, she did seem to respect it, for at least 20 minutes anyway.[/QUOTE]Yikes! You were still in a bar at 2am in Cebu without pulling a girl, wow. Chances are very good the bar wanted to close but your lush ass kept them there. You should make your choice earlier in the evening and go back to your room to bang some beaver but as always that`s up to you.

As I stated above, low number of customers mean you will be hounded more for LD's. The girls have to try and make money some how and LD's are the best option. I also think you visited the bars later and without alot of customers the girls often sleep all over the bar. That`s common. Just because you are jet-lagged and on western time doesn`t mean the girls have to be awake and perky at 2am di ba.

[quote]The Silver Dollar.

I never visited the Silver Dollar on my earlier Cebu trip so I was surprised (and pleased) to find it close to my hotel (Crown Regency Towers). After entering the Dollar, I sat down, ordered a beer and quickly got crowded by smiling angels. I got this warm reception almost every time I went there.[/QUOTE]Silver Dollar changed owners two years ago and is now called Mavericks Bar. Graham make a bunch of new signs but didn`t cover up the highest silver dollar sign for whatever reason. Many taxi drivers and locals still call it silver dollar but it`s not.

[quote]After settling the account for them, (2800P each) , we first go to Robinsons which is 2 minutes away. I buy the girls a bikini each (total was 1250 P). We come back to the hotel, change, girl wrap in towels and with drinks in hand we go find the swimming pool. Now, this time of year there are about 100 Korean families at the hotel. I can estimate from their gazes what many were thinking, and its not the kind of attention I look for, but to the girls credit they didn't ham it up and we all still had a great time.[/quote]The pool at Crown Regency is fuckin`gross. If you swim in the kidney shaped pool next to the glass elevator take a second to look at the tiles, they are green and covered in slime when they should be blue. No chlorine in that pool at all plus plenty of kids pissing in it creates a real health hazzard. That`s why the jacuzzi is closed, no chemicals were ever added to the water. I took a walk around the pool deck area one morning before the pool opened and the water in the jacuzzi was black. If you must swim try the large rectangle pool tucked in the back near tower 3. Not alot of kids in that pool and its much much cleaner as a result.

[quote]Well this is what happened. We get out of our swimmers and ready for a group shower when Girl 2 comes into the bathroom excited and apologetic telling me about 'having blood' and displaying the evidence. Not a good start After her performance was finished she still insisted she was ok for vaginal intercourse. Not sure if she was really sincere, but given the other girl had a pussy in working condition I declined her offer, and told her she can watch me when I am with Girl1.

Now as soon as Girl 1 was ready, she wanted to mount me lying on my back. I mean she really wanted to mount me. The period girl comes out of the bathroom and now asks if she can go on faceook when I am having sex with her friend. It kind of make me loose my train of thought and Girl 1 is putting a condom on but I tell the period girl she can now give me a double blow job with her friend which she agrees to this. But then Girl 1 mounts and start riding me and doesn't stop.

Girl 1 rode me like she hadn't had sex in a long time. I admit while it wasn't my plan, there is something satisfying about being used like that, and after she 'got off' she let me have my way with her.

So over all another failed 3some and some lessons learnt but I was more determined than ever to try it again another day.[/QUOTE]You need to do a better job checking the girls in the bar. If you want to barfine ask if she is shaved or not. Ask to see her kitty and then tell her it looks so good and for 50php can you play with her some. You will find out alot for the 50php and it might save you some trouble in the room. I say might because some BG`s stick a sponge inside to fool guys while aunt flo is in town and then remove it when in your hotel room CR. YMMV.

[quote]And one final side note. Frequently when I asked girls, they didn't have or forgot to bring their swim wear. Fortunately, Robinsons department store was just around the corner for me and each time, the girls didn't waste time or too much money- Emilayas cost 500P and another girls, MJ was about the same.

Anyway, I don't like the feeling that I might be seen as some kind of sex tourist pervert in the lingerie department waiting for his bar girls (though mostly true).

But every time I went there, there always seemed to be an excessive number of department stores girls just doing nothing and looking at me. This is Christmas time and they should all be busy! But that's the Phils for productivity.

I had a lot of experiences in Cebu so will try to write one more installment in this section.[/QUOTE]I don`t think you understand the way things work in the Philippines. In most department stores the sales people are assigned a small area. Usually two or three racks max. That`s their area of responsibility. When no customers are around and the boss is busy somewhere else they just stand around. And stand they do, hours and hours a day are spent on their feet. Working long hours for average pay and often once the 6 month contact is up getting renewed is slim. FYI the second time you showed up looking to buy a bikini with a different filipina you were pegged as a sexpat and all the girls were busy chickax2 about you and your girl (s) after you left. No big deal.

Hello yellowstar45,

I saw your ad cool going to Cebu Feb 4 to Feb 28 can call that girl for some extra cash.

[QUOTE=Stroker Ace88;1377802]Ask to see her kitty and then tell her it looks so good and for 50php can you play with her some. You will find out alot for the 50php and it might save you some trouble in the room. I say might because some BG`s stick a sponge inside to fool guys while aunt flo is in town and then remove it when in your hotel room CR. YMMV.[/QUOTE]I appreciate the reply Stroker.

I remember an occasion at Sisters seeing a guy taste testing a girl on the couch. At the time I just thought is was a new level of debauchery which I hadn't seen yet, but makes more sense now in light of your comment.

Regarding my comment on productivity in the phils. I was remarking on business practices there. Excessive workers per work available.

The workers have nothing to do, its not their fault, and they do deserve better.

[QUOTE=KingsWood; 1377850]I appreciate the reply Stroker.

I remember an occasion at Sisters seeing a guy taste testing a girl on the couch. At the time I just thought is was a new level of debauchery which I hadn't seen yet, but makes more sense now in light of your comment.

Regarding my comment on productivity in the phils. I was remarking on business practices there. Excessive workers per work available.

The workers have nothing to do, its not their fault, and they do deserve better.[/QUOTE]Well the fact is alot of BG's lie and tell stories to get you to barfine them. They will promise you the World in the bar and agree to everything and then deliver mininal in the room. Playing with her in the bar is a good way to see if she really likes you or likes your cash more. Some guys play with a kitty to check if it smells (possible STD). You learn alot that way. If she agrees take the 50php bill you promised her and stick it under your SML bottle or whatever drink you have and play with her some. Does she get wet or does she keep her eyes on the 50php? You get alot of info for the 50php, just make sure to position both her and your body so it's more private and doesn't allow her to lose face. Some BG's will try and ask for 100php and it's a good sign she wants max money, so I usually just say no hon 50php and a LD is what I will offer. If she says no or wants to think about it drop her and go back to sipping on your drink and watching the girls on stage.

A long time ago I was in Silver Dollar sitting on a bar stool talking with a BG that I always liked but for whatever reason never barfined before. I was just about to buy her a LD when another customer walked in and she jumped up and down and ran to hug him making a big scene. LOL no big deal so a second BG came over to fill her spot standing next to me. When the guy didn't stay the first BG came back and wanted that LD. I laughed inside and then I asked the second BG what she wanted to drink and she positioned herself between the barstool and the bar sitting on the front of my chair. I am a spiteful bugger at times. I started to talk with the second BG and she was very happy to get the LD, and went on to tell me some bola story that she was a fish monger in Manila before and was just visiting Cebu to work. (common for girls to leave their home island to become a BG in another city). She also told me she can't barfine because of some medical problem, that her kitty is all messed up and she is on meds. Yikes, I got her off my barstool and away from me LOL. No telling what was wrong with her so better safe than sorry.

About productivity. The sales people are paid on a daily rate not hourly like in the west so to have a worker stand at the assigned area all day doesn't cost more. Other workers in the Philippines are paid on a monthly rate (manual work like gardeners, maids or yaya's ect) and are usually paid on the first and fifthteenth of every month (first and third Friday). The rate is slightly different for each region in the Philippines. The daily rate (Central Visayas) was increased recently by DOLE from 307php to 327php for the Metro Cebu area. That means the sales workers get 327php for working one day. That's roughly $8. 20USD per day, and most work a 10hr day 6 days a week. Store owners find ways to lower the wages by getting the sales people to buy the uniform and shoes from the store.

About service in the Philippines. Sometimes it's nice to have a sales person standing there available so if you want another size shoe or shirt they will go to the back and get it for you. Try to find a sales person in Walmart or Home Depot is like finding gold in the ground, you know it's there but you have to search really hard to find it. Makes the service in the Philippines seem 5star sometimes.

Yo Gents, Thought I would chime in. I've been to Cebu twice and the 3rd trip is in a couple of weeks. I have TR's on my last visits but in a nutshell the Mango St bars are hit and miss. One night you'll see the most beautiful filipinas (dancing and available) and the next night they're not there. I'm talking, Vikings, Red Lips, those are my 2 favorites. I know there are a few others in that same area but the two I mentioned have the most beauties IMO. That said these bars are also the most difficult for a (western) monger to operate in. Last time I met a Viking stunner named Summer. The interview was good and the fun on the couch was good and because I wanted her to be happy I bought her the 6 or so LDs. We end up at the hotel later and we start a hot session and then she shut it down. When this happens I don't waste any time I go right back to the club for a credit or refund. This time the Viking bar manager was nowhere to be found for the next 3 nights. When this drink * hustler Summer saw me in the club she would not come out of the dressing room, haha. I would purposely go there to shut her action down. So watch out in the Viking and Red Lips, the hotties (not all) are out to hustle you for drinks. If you BF them you might not have recourse if the girl changes her mind about what was promised before you BFed them. Worthwhile clubs you have to be on your game in.

This trip I will pursue more options than the bars. Here are a few pics of Summer. She is / was an extremely sexy women. Petite and curvy. Man I thought I hit it out of the park w / her but soon after these pics were taken she quit. Maybe it was the camera. When they look that hot and fuck that good I want to take the pics but it can also backfire on you. That might of been the reason for the abrupt change. The other pic is of an awesome 3some procured out of the Viking Bar. The one on the right is riding my face and the other one riding my dick. The one on the right was very beautiful, very. Time was going in slow motion and I was the happiest man on the planet while they were on top of me. Indescribable happiness. Headin back for more soon.

KingsWood, Thanks for the detailed report. For me I fuck them before buying any gifts. Cheers. <<

[QUOTE=Stroker Ace88;1377802]Also IMO the bar business in Cebu is not a money-making operation by any means and the sector has been in serious decline since 2007. There currently is one bar in Cebu that's for sale for around 35000USD. That's alot less than the expat owner paid when he bought the club. I personally know of half a dozen previous expat bar owners who lost everything after buying a gogo bar in Cebu and then pissed away their life savings trying to maintain a bar. Total money pit. The customers are just not there.[/QUOTE]You're probably referring to Cobra, which started out with an asking price of something like that. The price has been dropped several times and I think it's now $23, 500 or something close to that. That's for a combo bar, KTV, and massage. Of course, it's on F. Ramos, which is a second-rate location. Still, a bargain seemingly, if I were interested (which I'm not) and if I could legally own a business (which I can't).

But it's probably not a bargain, because what you note is true. These bars don't seem to make money.

[QUOTE=Azil;1384304].These bars don't seem to make money.[/QUOTE]And if you did make money, you would have real trouble with opposing Filipino owned bars. Buying a bar is for mugs only.

[QUOTE=Azil; 1384304]You're probably referring to Cobra, which started out with an asking price of something like that. The price has been dropped several times and I think it's now $23, 500 or something close to that. That's for a combo bar, KTV, and massage. Of course, it's on F. Ramos, which is a second-rate location. Still, a bargain seemingly, if I were interested (which I'm not) and if I could legally own a business (which I can't).

But it's probably not a bargain, because what you note is true. These bars don't seem to make money.[/QUOTE]Yes the bar I was talking about is in fact Cobra bar. Lots of crap being thrown around about this bar by local expats about the sale and ownership of a bar in Cebu. Some are trying to convince visitors or fresh expats that owning a bar is a good investment ect ect. While other expats are more realisitic about the bar ownership experience in Cebu which creates a bit of tension.

Sorry the current owner is in a 'rush sale' position but I wouldn't even take the bar if it was given to me for free. Alot of Cebu expats think the same way and that means the bar is reduced to the value of on-hand alcohol inventory, minus the previous owners agreed upon monthly lease payments.

Best suggestion I heard was to try and sell the bar to a Korean and the owner might get double the current asking price if he was prepared to wait 12 months or so.

I know of a few other bars that are currently for sale or should I say 'permanently up for sale' in and around Cebu. No takers.

I spent a couple of hours checking out the "old" Silver Dollar on Saturday night.

It is suffering an identity crisis. The sign at the door says "Silver Dollar"; the waitresses and staff wear "Mavericks" tee shirts and the menu says Mavericks.

When I entered a girl said "Welcome to Silver Dollar sir".

When I questioned the name she said that everyone knows it as Silver Dollar, including all taxi drivers.

As stated in various places here, the place has been revamped by Graham, the "new" owner (who I know from Lone Star). I say "new" because it is the first time I have been back since the change of owner. I liked what I saw.

I especially liked the line-up of dancers. Much fresher than the former tired models. Something for everyone was on rotation. Tall, slim, short, spinner, younger, more mature, boobless and D cup sizes.

I didn't stay long but the drinks (not happy hour prices) were 80 for a beer. 180 for girls drink. 2800 barfine with 800 to bar and 2000 to the girl. The bar opens early and happy hour runs to 7pm.

[QUOTE=Red Kilt; 1390733]I especially liked the line-up of dancers. Much fresher than the former tired models. Something for everyone. And D cup sizes.

I didn't stay long but the drinks (not happy hour prices) were 80 for a beer. 180 for girls drink. 2800 barfine with 800 to bar and 2000 to the girl. The bar opens early and happy hour runs to 7pm.[/QUOTE]Thanks, RK. I'll have to put this back on the to do list. The Old Silver Dollar had a short time room and a shower in the back but I guess Graham is using it for something else now.

It is a very belated trip report, happened in last October. I owe a BIG THANK YOU to Wicked Roger, without whose help, the Cebu trip would not have been so successful. We met one night and had dinner. What a classy guy! Thank you, WR.

It was a very short trip to Cebu before I moved on to Angeles City. I had a few dating sites' girls already lined up. Since time was in short supply, I had only one night at my disposal to check out the bar scene on Mango Avenue.

It was a Monday night and I reached the Vikings bar around midnight. The bar was dead, as expected. One girl latched on to me, I bought her a drink and started chatting. A Japanese guy came and bought drinks for all the girls. It was his birthday. The bartender told me that from June the barfine went up from 2000P to 3000P. I liked her a lot, but she said she could only leave the bar at 4 AM. She was willing to take 2000P. I told her that it is too late for me and left the bar around 1:30 AM. I saw a cab waiting on the end of the block and headed for it.

Before I could open the cab door, two girls just grabbed me and pushed me inside their bar. About a dozen girls came running at me and they threw me on the sofa. I looked around and I was the only patron in the bar. Before I could say anything. 5 girls took a position in front me, two next to me on sofa, another three stood very close to me. Two girls instantly opened my fly, took my Johnson out and started hand job. One of them started blowing me also, although it was predominantly hand job. All these were happening in front of the mamasan, right in the middle of the bar, which was quite spacious and nicely decorated. Then all of a sudden, I got really scared. I remembered that I did not have much cash with me. I immediately called the mamasan and gave her 1000 Peso. I said that that's what I had and she can buy drinks for them. However, no one should expect me to pay whatever else they are doing. Mamasan said not to worry and went to bring the drinks.

Then I started relaxing. Instead of being a passive player, I became quite active. The girls sitting next to me opened their boobs and pussy and I started playing with them along with generous DFKs. The girls standing next to me took my finger and put in her pussy. The front girls were changing places and giving blow and hand job. I could not believe what was happening. For almost 40 minutes I was the King of that bar. There are blow job bars in AC, Thailand. But that's what they are. You go there to get that service and you pay for that service. That is never my style and I never visited those places, because I enjoy having sex in my hotel room. Tonight, I became the center of an impromptu semi sex session, just by chance. All the girls (about 25) participated in some form or other. There were the active girls and the rest of them came very close and started watching. I believed they locked the front door, because when I left someone opened the door for me.

My dick felt sore from all these yanking. Of course, I never came. Finally, I took one of the cuties and left. There was never a pressure to pay any more. I told the mamasan that I will pay the girl in my hotel room, since I really did not have any more money left.

A very slow Monday night and lots of horny bar girls. Fantasy can turn to reality.

Bandy.

PS: I purposely did not name the bar to avoid any trouble they may get into.

[QUOTE=Bandy;1397719]Two girls instantly opened my fly, took my Johnson out and started hand job. One of them started blowing me also, although it was predominantly hand job. All these were happening in front of the mamasan, right in the middle of the bar.The girls sitting next to me opened their boobs and pussy and I started playing with them along with generous DFKs. The girls standing next to me took my finger and put in her pussy. The front girls were changing places and giving blow and hand job. I could not believe what was happening. For almost 40 minutes I was the King of that bar. There are blow job bars in AC, Thailand. But that's what they are.[/QUOTE]Congrats on a great session Bandy, I love it when similar things happen, it's what I get my biggest kicks from! . Had something similar happening but with fewer girls, at the same side of Mango Ave, might have been the same bar. Love it.

[QUOTE=KingsWood;1377516]The set up in Lovecity is a bit different to most other bars in Cebu.you need to formally select the girl to sit with you. This is more of a Korean style setup I think and not to everyone's taste.[/QUOTE]I did not like Love City at all when I visited, poor service from bartenders and most girls looked bored or tired, almost like they did not want to be there, also the price for drink was more than double compared to my favored bars on the other side of the street.

[QUOTE=Frenzy3;1360970]I always like arena and I will keep going there, tonight they have a party for their 16 birthday, so I am sure they will be arround for a long time[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info Frenzy3, it seems most people don't bother visiting Arena due to high prices and the somehow unconvenient location. Can you please describe more about what you like about this place, are the girls more beautiful (in what way) , is it more fun? I am trying to build up the case visiting om my next trip.

[QUOTE=Wiild;1399487]Thanks for the info Frenzy3, it seems most people don't bother visiting Arena due to high prices and the somehow unconvenient location. Can you please describe more about what you like about this place, are the girls more beautiful (in what way) , is it more fun? I am trying to build up the case visiting om my next trip.[/QUOTE]Unfortunately, Frenzy has left this forum for a different one thanks to a few idiots who post here.

[QUOTE=Wiild;1399483]I did not like Love City at all when I visited, poor service from bartenders and most girls looked bored or tired, almost like they did not want to be there, also the price for drink was more than double compared to my favored bars on the other side of the street.[/QUOTE]Arena a similar experience. Visited it recently. Some pretty girls, but place designed, and organised for looking, not for touching. Only touching is, touching up, you the customer with high prices. Pleasant enough if you don't mind high prices and not in a hurry for sex. If you want straight forward sex procurement, go elsewhere, my opinion.

[QUOTE=Sxxxx;1399824]Arena: Only touching is, touching up, you the customer with high prices. .go elsewhere, my opinion.[/QUOTE]THanks Sxxxx, I suspected Arena to be something like that

[QUOTE=Wiild;1399891]THanks Sxxxx, I suspected Arena to be something like that[/QUOTE]Seeing you were so kind to say Thanks, I offer you a little more insight into Arena, LOL.

P200 entrance. Beer P110, or was it P150? P30 service charge each time you pay the bill, so only pay once, LOL. Can not sit at premium seats if only one person. But seats still ok elsewhere around t shaped stage. Arena cater for Japanese, Korean and well heeled Filipino's, not us guys. Chances are your the only white guy there, surrounded by SE Asian people. We want sex, they seem to want other things, pretty girl on the arm etc, trophy girls.

Arena is titillation. Good enough show, with pretty enough dancing girls, total say 50 of them, usually only one girl at a time, on big stage. Japanese slip P500 and P1000 notes into their bikini, all for a smile. Myself P100, if at all LOL. Ladies drink P300 if Cebu girl, P600 if Manila girl. Ask beforehand where your girl of choice comes from. Mama-san also gets a mandatory Ladies drink, P300, first time you order ladies drink only. Girl stays limited time with you for each ladies drink, most probably 40 mins. After 20 or 30 mins I let mine go, very sweet, charming, lady like, but not sexy. Some nice dancing girls there, but they are not thinking what we are thinking, good night of sex. That was my impression anyway.

Another 50 or so additional girls who are not dancing girls, wearing full length dresses. Management makes no attempt to show you these girls as you enter, but if your Japanese or Korean and you enter, they call all of them to the front door so Japanese etc can select a companion to sit with them. You will see these girls bunched sitting around one side of the stage. You can go with mama-san and select etc. I figure these non dancing girls are easily bar fineable if you want to pay around Pesos6, 000 bar fine or more, and give girl expected tip of P2000 or more after the deed. My info has it they are not sex machines, they are expecting the SE Asain treatment. 3 mins, small Johnson, big tip, then out the door (girl). Apparently very few stay all night. Depends on your generosity. If you were 22yrs old and hansum, they might stay till lunchtime, and only need your dick, not a tip, LOL.

A good night out for a SE Asian is looking at pretty girls, talking to them, acting big with them, that is, ladies drinks, tips for mamasan, tip waiters, tip girls, a smile, then out the door, empty handed. Western guys are looking for something more, sex.

Easy money for the girls who do not have to put out. Some of those pretty dancing girls are genuine students on a high monthly Arena salary, scooping ladies drinks, tips. Enough for them. Have hansum local boyfriend or sugar daddy businessman in the background. Don't need to grind away all night with one of us, and maybe boyfriend or sugar daddy forbids such anyway. Once again, if 22 yrs old and hansum, you might break the house rules, LOL.

Without talking forever, its a bit of a luxury environment, seats etc, pretty but hard to bar fine dancing girls, dancing sexy style, and other not quite so pretty bar fineable long dressed girls. SE Asain guys go there and look for hours, do not seem to bar fine anyone. They are also upstairs in the expensive cubicles, with their chosen companion. Believe nothing happens in those rooms, with windows that anyone can see into. Waiters and mama-sans keep entering and leaving them all the time, too.

Satisfies the clientele they cater for. Even in downtown dance places local poor guys do the same, look but do not touch, or barfine. Strange behaviour, and very frustrating for western man who is seeking sex for the night.

Stories of guys passing cellphone numbers to Arena girls to avoid P6000 bar fine, tell me that some, only some, do turn up at hotel, but they only do what they do for SE Asian customer, lie on the back. No BJ, no anal, no this that. Not even photo's. Don't know, never bothered to try cause Arena girls do not put out sexy vibes. Eye candy, titillation, voyeur kind of place.

If your pragmatic type who wants to get some action without ceremony, then Arena is not for you. Eye candy yes, guaranteed western style sex action, no. The fact that very few foreigners visit the place is proof, it is not for us, its for persons of a different culture, with different wants, needs.

I do not regret visiting the place. But suggest, do not go there if your desperate for sex, go there on your off night when sex is not important to you, LOL.

[QUOTE=Sxxxx;1399965]Seeing you were so kind to say Thanks, I offer you a little more insight into Arena, [SNIP][/quote]Sxxxx,

Excellent info and insight posted about Arena. I was going to add your post to the ROD section, D33 already posted it.

Very good work.

[QUOTE=Stroker Ace88; 1400265]Sxxxx,

Excellent info and insight posted about Arena. I was going to add your post to the ROD section, D33 already posted it.

Very good work.[/QUOTE]ROD, the sex forums equivalent of an Oscar nomination, Wow!

First I'the like to thank my Mom and Dad for making this possible.

Then there is David33 and Stroker Ace88 too. Plus the taxi driver who took me to Arena, and all the others, you know who you are.

See you newbies, who ask questions, see what you get, if you give feedback, a little thank you, to those who answer your questions. The ones who go silent, once they get what they want, that is, no acknowledgement for answers supplied, are discouraging guys with real info, coming forward. Wild's acknowledgement, and the little 'Thank You', touched my heart, LOL.

I have no edit function when posting. Realised after posting previous one, there were two important aspects I did not explain properly. Will submit clearer info on that soon.

Anyway, I am spent, got no more ROD's up my sleeve, not unless someone kisses my ass, LOL.

Hi Everyone!

Excited about my first trip to the Phillipines. Spending a couple of nights in Cebu before heading south to dive with the whale sharks!

I have been reading through the forums. Sounds like Vikings and Redlips are the place to be? But I wanted to ask for clarification.

Firstly, does the barfine also count as the fee to the girl? My understanding of the barfine is that it a small fee to the owner of the bar to free her from working in the club for a while, but that you then pay a separate fee to the girl later for services rendered. But from what I read, I am never hearing any discussions about fees to the girls, just barfines. Are tips always expected afterwards?

Secondly, what is the story behind Jonquerra? I remember reading a post from about a year ago describing it as a lower end place where new women learn the trade. This would imply newer, fresher girls who are less likely to try and swindle you. Others describe it as a ghetto, with the implications that the girls aren't clean. Anyone with any experience? Is it a safe place? When you travel the world enough, you realize that just because an area of town is run-down doesn't mean it is dangerous. Havana comes to mind.

Thanks!

Yes, Manny you pay a small fee to the bar to free the girl. That amount is 700pesos. Then you pay the girl in the morning 2, 300 pesos. So total barfine is 3, 000 pesos no need to tip girl bcoz the barfine is already expensive. About a year ago the barfine was only 1, 700 pesos. I hear sometimes in off peak times like June you can get a discount barfine of 2,000 pesos.

[QUOTE=Manny51;1400328]This would imply newer, fresher girls who are less likely to try and swindle you.[/QUOTE]Well I'm not sure about the swindling part, but I wouldn't describe the girls there as neither "new" nor "fresh". They are all handled by pimps who will freak you out if you aren't prepared by surrounding your taxi and banging on it when you arrive. I almost had a heart attack when it happened to me which Mortman found hilarious.

[QUOTE=Boofa69;1400349]Yes, Manny you pay a small fee to the bar to free the girl. That amount is 700pesos. Then you pay the girl in the morning 2, 300 pesos. So total barfine is 3, 000 pesos no need to tip girl bcoz the barfine is already expensive. About a year ago the barfine was only 1, 700 pesos. I hear sometimes in off peak times like June you can get a discount barfine of 2,000 pesos.[/QUOTE]Ok, so when forum members are using the term "barfine" they are speaking conversationally and are referring to the total that they paid, even though they actually did two separate payments: first giving money to the mamasan, then later to the girl.

Thanks for the clarification.

[QUOTE=Manny51; 1400785]Ok, so when forum members are using the term "barfine" they are speaking conversationally and are referring to the total that they paid, even though they actually did two separate payments: first giving money to the mamasan, then later to the girl.

Thanks for the clarification.[/QUOTE]Hey Manny,

Go to dateinasia. Com to get girls in Cebu. Some are really pretty and you do not have to go through the bullshit of bars, barfine etc. If you like them you can take them on your diving trip.

Nice to dive underwater as well as muff diving!

Many girls are extremely friendly and once you explain to them that you are not looking for serious relationship they are ok with it. However you need to chat with few before you get the right girl.

Hi guys,

Anyone have experience or feedback regarding a bar near Mango, actually I forgot the name as I was totally wasted.

But when exiting from Vikings you will turn right and right again after the Caltex gasoline station next to it.

Then you will continue just about 100 meters and it's on the right side.

There is a big round couch were a lot of girls are sitting and the dance stage is kind of L-shape.

When I was there on Thursday place was pretty quiet and I was in a hurry with my friend, but I just remember that there were some good looking girls.

Thanks for any comments.

[QUOTE=Going Low; 1434831]Hi guys.

Anyone have experience or feedback regarding a bar near Mango, actually I forgot the name as I was totally wasted.

But when exiting from Vikings you will turn right and right again after the Caltex gasoline station next to it.

Then you will continue just about 100 meters and it's on the right side.

There is a big round couch were a lot of girls are sitting and the dance stage is kind of L-shape.

When I was there on Thursday place was pretty quiet and I was in a hurry with my friend, but I just remember that there were some good looking girls.

Thanks for any comments.[/QUOTE]Hi Going Low,

Sounds like temptations to me, but it isn't a bar I can say I frequent all that often so I don't have much experience to report (certainly not been there sober recently). The only other bars in that specific area are El Gecko (but from your description it definitely isn't that as Gecko is very small) and the other is Red Lips, but that is down an alleyway before the Caltex if U-turn right out of Vikings.

[QUOTE=SexBomb123; 1435041]Hi Going Low,

Sounds like temptations to me, but it isn't a bar I can say I frequent all that often so I don't have much experience to report (certainly not been there sober recently). The only other bars in that specific area are El Gecko (but from your description it definitely isn't that as Gecko is very small) and the other is Red Lips, but that is down an alleyway before the Caltex if U-turn right out of Vikings.[/QUOTE]Wrong. Exit Viking and turn right and you will be in the Caltex lot! To get to Red Lips you exit Vikings and turn [b]LEFT[/b] Then turn left again down the dead end street in between Kalidades flower shop and yellow cab.

There are two bars located on Jacosalem 50meters down from the Caltex on Mango, Club Tokyo and Club Tempation. Mostly they cater to Korean and Japanese clients. The bar fine is higher than viking group bars, and from time to time they will charge 100p admission fee + mamasan drink if you are a newbie. Some higher-end young filipina eye-candy, but most will not barfine with Kanos unless the guy is younger and gwapo. Most prefer the bigger tips and LDs from asian clients, less work and more php.

Anyone have any experience with the KTV bar diagonally to the right across the street from the Elizabeth Hotel?

Will be here in Cebu for 2 nights, wanted to find some nice places before my main trip.

Thanks / G

[QUOTE=Stroker Ace88; 1435124]Wrong. Exit Viking and turn right and you will be in the Caltex lot! To get to Red Lips you exit Vikings and turn [b]LEFT[/b] Then turn left again down the dead end street in between Kalidades flower shop and yellow cab.

There are two bars located on Jacosalem 50meters down from the Caltex on Mango, Club Tokyo and Club Tempation. Mostly they cater to Korean and Japanese clients. The bar fine is higher than viking group bars, and from time to time they will charge 100p admission fee + mamasan drink if you are a newbie. Some higher-end young filipina eye-candy, but most will not barfine with Kanos unless the guy is younger and gwapo. Most prefer the bigger tips and LDs from asian clients, less work and more php.[/QUOTE]Stroker,

I stand corrected; thanks for the info. Of course Red Lips is down the side of Yellow Cab. Rarely am I in any fit state when exiting Viking / Eriks / BG's and Hotlips is a bar I do not frequent. I have only ever been to temptation once, even though I am young and gwapo. For the very reasons you have mentioned. Normally I have one in Planet-x / sisters then onto Lonestar.

[QUOTE=Fritobugger;1435132]Anyone have any experience with the KTV bar diagonally to the right across the street from the Elizabeth Hotel?[/QUOTE]Do you mean Infinity?

I have not been there in years, but from what I remember the LD's were crazy expensive and the barfine was more than what Mango bars charged. Got the feeling they cater to a local clientele with alot of richer and older locals hanging out. No idea what the deal is now. If you're in Cebu maybe you could take one for the team and pay them a visit. Be sure to post a FR with updated info, but be prepared to spend $$$.

Cheers.

[QUOTE=Boofa69;1400349]Yes, Manny you pay a small fee to the bar to free the girl. That amount is 700pesos. Then you pay the girl in the morning 2, 300 pesos. So total barfine is 3, 000 pesos no need to tip girl bcoz the barfine is already expensive. About a year ago the barfine was only 1, 700 pesos. I hear sometimes in off peak times like June you can get a discount barfine of 2,000 pesos.[/QUOTE]Barfine is 1700 plus mandatory 5 LDs (5×150) , IMO cebu girls are less appealing than AC and expensive.

[QUOTE=Gajith;1435577]Barfine is 1700 plus mandatory 5 LDs (5×150) , IMO cebu girls are less appealing than AC and expensive.[/QUOTE]The only thing new is you. That's the newbie DF (drink fine). Regulars do not pay it as long as they are not kuripot.

Sit, drink and buy a LD for the gal you choose. 5 LD minimum is in place in most Cebu bars to even out the playing field.

Koreans generally like to walk in, get a line up, pick, pay, and leave. All without sitting down. Makes things fair for the Kanos that generally enjoy a drink (or 10 LOL) while watching the show.

[QUOTE=Gajith;1435577]Barfine is 1700 plus mandatory 5 LDs (5×150) , IMO cebu girls are less appealing than AC and expensive.[/QUOTE]Never had to pay this in ANY bar in Cebu before. If they insist, go somewhere else. Plenty of girlie bars and too many girls in Cebu to be held to ransom. If you think it's expensive, go to Alchology or even easier J. Ave. If you can't get a girl in there, working (for a fraction of the price) or not, something must be seriously wrong.

i went to every bar on mango st. on two occassions last month (all except redlips). nobody quoted less than 3k or 3. 5k. at least one or two ld's are what they strongly suggest to you before they warm up to you. while i made it clear i was bar hopping and would consider picking up a gal for lt later, i didn't see many at each bar that were jumping at the opportunity. in fact at many places they were just not interested and i even found two places where they never barfined ladies and even had a notice to that effect. i think that one was opposite one of the viking bars.

and then i didn't find many gals that were worth the extra 1 to 1. 5k over an fl at jl's.

will post about the jl experience later.

-peeman

[QUOTE=Stroker Ace88; 1435591]The only thing new is you. That's the newbie DF (drink fine). Regulars do not pay it as long as they are not kuripot.

Sit, drink and buy a LD for the gal you choose. 5 LD minimum is in place in most Cebu bars to even out the playing field.

Koreans generally like to walk in, get a line up, pick, pay, and leave. All without sitting down. Makes things fair for the Kanos that generally enjoy a drink (or 10 LOL) while watching the show.[/QUOTE]Yeah! I am the only new thing I agreed, but I was with a veteran who is living in a Condo within the vicinity of the Fuente Osmena and had been living there from 2008. I met him at the Robinsons and the generous gentleman took me to each bars along Osmena Blvd and Mango Ave. We had walked at least 7-8 Kms in that evening. I might be agree with you if I went the bar alone and they asked me 5 LD, but this Gentleman knows all the Bars and people for years asked on behalf of me. I clearly heard, the ladies told him this is a new policy they put recently. I was in Cebu on Mon & Tue and I had familiarized as much things I can because the gentleman's advice. I was just walking with him and pleased with his approach and level of confidence when he approaches even a little girl. I was also surprised 100 % of the girls had responded him when he say hi to them. He told me he picked up girls from Bars may be in his youth, but for some years, the girls are visiting his house and he is giving them maximum 200 P for their travelling expense.

He knows many things, and he cared me like a son and advised me what to do and what not do. He also took me to the nearby college to show me the possibilities within the city. When he sees a girl, he tell me what type of the girl she is; if she is waiting for her BF or waiting for Foreigners or customers.

BTW, I was not at all desperate in fucking a girl but I had really good time with 20 YO girl at Sisters. She liked me badly and loved to hug and play with me. 2 LDs for her had provided 1 or more hour happiest time. Even she rejected one of the customers for me but I was AC hangover or may be tired so I never quoted anything above 2000, but she was asking for 2500. The next day also I went to Sisters and she came to me and started hugging and kissing me and lay on my shoulder like a baby. This time I quoted 2500 but she wanted 2800. I don't know, but I am that horny during the last days of my phil trip. Finally she came to me and told, somebody offered 3. 5 K for her and if I could release her she can go with him. She was a good girl, bad is me. Even I have had enough money I never shown up. Surely it was due to AC effect. Anyway I love bar hopping nowadays.

Went to Viking (Eric) ; bought a Beer and walked through all the 3 Viking (I don't know if you guys know that, you can buy a drink at any Viking and go to other 2). Nothing fantastic at the other two, just chit chat with Cathy (Waitress) at a bar and went back to Eric. Mitch and other lady came to me and talked, I liked Mitch and I decided to barfine her. The girl was really awesome, she was like my tuition teacher! I remembered, some guys here talking about the One legged Ostrich or something. She taught me on how to play in that position. Her BBJ was awesome with good feel and eye contact.

One more thing, the LDs were tequila shots and she offered me two of them. She left in the morning after the breakfast and I collected her number, but her original name is different BTW.

May I ask you Stroker Ace88, Are you a resident at Cebu? If yes please help to go to Viking and confirm if there is new rule or not.

Thanks / G

[QUOTE=SexBomb123;1435883]Never had to pay this in ANY bar in Cebu before. If they insist, go somewhere else. Plenty of girlie bars and too many girls in Cebu to be held to ransom. If you think it's expensive, go to Alchology or even easier J. Ave. If you can't get a girl in there, working (for a fraction of the price) or not, something must be seriously wrong.[/QUOTE]SexBomb123, I don't have any problem :P I just said comparing to AC, cebu is little expensive; may be because I am new to the Cebu. But, the availability of local girls rate looks much higher than Manila & AC. I am not like the DIA kings here, but I opened the account 1 week before. Still I got 12-15 phone numbers and 2-3 meetings. Many girls wanted to meet me and one of my friend in Butuan referred her sister in Cebu to take care of me. Girls are Sooo sweeet, they know how to make Men happy. And one more thing, the overbridge at Mango Avenue is one of the good pick up point I felt, even the circular bench inside (just after the over bridge beside the CR) the Robinsons can also provide better option to mingle. Couple of girls came and talked to me on my first day, but looks Cebu girls doesn't speak better English like central Manila. From my Phil visit I had learned many things, if we have 1 week time; we can do many things. Looks phil girls like to refer their friends, cousins & sisters.

Gajith,

I can't say for sure what happened to you, all I know is some bars charge a minimum number of LD's to try and get guys to sit and drink awhile instead of pick and run. Some GRO's make good money from just LD's. The bars are trying to encourage customers to sit and drink, so customers buy a couple of LD's for a few dancers and that way alot of GRO's get a small payment instead of only the one you barfine.

I have not been to Vikings in a couple of months, so it could be a new thing, but I doubt it. It's more likely staff tried to charge you a tax because you were new.

Also, the longer you spend time in the Philippines the less you barfine. Most of the expats often find one (or several) top-notch filipinas and stick to them and sprinkle in a few new ones here and there. After awhile the expats just go out to the bars to drink, socialize, and watch a show. I said most (LOL) but not all. *insert big grin smiley*

[QUOTE=Stroker Ace88; 1436348]Gajith,

I can't say for sure what happened to you, all I know is some bars charge a minimum number of LD's to try and get guys to sit and drink awhile instead of pick and run. Some GRO's make good money from just LD's. The bars are trying to encourage customers to sit and drink, so customers buy a couple of LD's for a few dancers and that way alot of GRO's get a small payment instead of only the one you barfine.

I have not been to Vikings in a couple of months, so it could be a new thing, but I doubt it. It's more likely staff tried to charge you a tax because you were new.

Also, the longer you spend time in the Philippines the less you barfine. Most of the expats often find one (or several) top-notch filipinas and stick to them and sprinkle in a few new ones here and there. After awhile the expats just go out to the bars to drink, socialize, and watch a show. I said most (LOL) but not all. *insert big grin smiley*[/QUOTE]The first Paragraph is just general Knowledge and that is how the system works.

Please, help to check with Viking when you go there next time about the new policy. Frankly, I can't believe they try to play with the Gentleman with me.

I agreed with you on third Para. But since I was there for 2 nights each in different locations, didn't have time to look around and wait for the best lady.

[QUOTE=Fritobugger;1435132]Anyone have any experience with the KTV bar diagonally to the right across the street from the Elizabeth Hotel?[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Stroker Ace88; 1435570]Do you mean Infinity?

I have not been there in years, but from what I remember the LD's were crazy expensive and the barfine was more than what Mango bars charged. Got the feeling they cater to a local clientele with alot of richer and older locals hanging out. No idea what the deal is now.[/QUOTE]I had a beer there a year ago, seemed like set-up for Japenese / Korean customers or possibly locals as all the girls were sitting in one big line / group and showed no interest in coming over to have a chat with me as I was sitting in the bar. I did not get a single glance, smile from the girls or any offer from the staff. Boring place.

Ok, thanks. I have walked by there so many times and it seems mostly dead but a good location.

[QUOTE=Wiild;1437851]I had a beer there a year ago, seemed like set-up for Japenese / Korean customers or possibly locals as all the girls were sitting in one big line / group and showed no interest in coming over to have a chat with me as I was sitting in the bar. I did not get a single glance, smile from the girls or any offer from the staff. Boring place.[/QUOTE]

had a beer in each of several of the bars in vikings group recently, including vikings and sisters. bf in sisters is 2000, but in vikings i was asked by two girls and a waitress not to refer to the word barfine. and it was 3000 to take a girl out. didn't take anyone, was just there to have a drink. in all 3 bars, way too few punters, and mostly korean. got the same treatment in two bars: attack the customer with 4-5 girls the moment he walks in, and try and get ld's for all of them right away, just after they sat me down. no thanks; which caused the mamasan to rep001ter them away from me. in vikings there was almost no pressure. one of the bars was between sisters and planet x i think. the mama pushed all the girls with me towards the young koreans (about 6 of them at one table, they appeared to be about 20, and i was the only other customer). they already hade a dozen girls fawning over them, and her pushing another 5 towards them just cluttered up the area. so one of the cuties just came back over to sit with me for 20 minute while i finished my drink. inquiry to the barfine: 2000.

pics attached from the daytime. vikings on the far left where the security guy is. sisters the other pic. and the other pics are the bars across the street (dimples, love city). all of this falls under the shadow of that inglesia and christo church (haha).

reporting live from cebu city: westcoast1

2k barfine? thats odd. at no bar did anyone quote less than 3k to me. i ended up picking up fls from j ave each time.

-peeman

[quote=peeman; 1440040]2k barfine? thats odd. at no bar did anyone quote less than 3k to me. i ended up picking up fls from j ave each time.

-peeman[/quote]if the mamasan knows you the barfine is only 700 php and they trust that you will pay the girl the expected amount.

if they don't know you (or you seem to be a bit cheap and shifty) , then they will charge you 2700 or, in your case. 3000.

[QUOTE=Red Kilt; 1440055]If the mamasan knows you the barfine is only 700 php and they trust that you will pay the girl the expected amount.

If they don't know you (or you seem to be a bit cheap and shifty) , then they will charge you 2700 or, in your case. 3000.[/QUOTE]RK: What's the expected amount? For several years I've taken girls from Sisters, PlanetX, Eric's, and Vikings. The BF was 1800, and the girls always told me they got either half of that, or 1000. Across the street, the quoted BF was always 3000 or so.

[QUOTE=Westcoast1;1440094]RK: What's the expected amount? For several years I've taken girls from Sisters, PlanetX, Eric's, and Vikings. The BF was 1800, and the girls always told me they got either half of that, or 1000. Across the street, the quoted BF was always 3000 or so.[/QUOTE]I will PM you WC.

[quote=peeman; 1440040]2k barfine? thats odd. at no bar did anyone quote less than 3k to me. i ended up picking up fls from j ave each time.

peeman[/quote]i've never paid more than 2k on the vikings side of street.

Hi Guys,

Any busty pinays in Maverick bar? Hope to meet WR there later in the week.

[QUOTE=D Cups; 1451443]Hi Guys,

Any busty pinays in Maverick bar? Hope to meet WR there later in the week.[/QUOTE]There is one that has worked there a while now. Her name escapes me, she's had a couple of kids but you would never guess it looking at her great body. I haven't been there personally, so to speak, as I can't say her face is all that but she's not bad compared to some I've seen.

[QUOTE=D Cups;1451443]Any busty pinays in Maverick bar? Hope to meet WR there later in the week.[/QUOTE]How about posting a FR on your assessment of the new version of SD?

[QUOTE=Buko Max;1458118]How about posting a FR on your assessment of the new version of SD?[/QUOTE]Some of the girls from SD / LS will have migrated to Pussycats. I understand its under new ownership.

Ask for Maricel at Silver Dollar. Hot body and terrific provider.

[QUOTE=Buko Max;1458118]How about posting a FR on your assessment of the new version of SD?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=D Cups;1458688]Ask for Maricel at Silver Dollar. Hot body and terrific provider.[/QUOTE]Was not looking for any recommendations. All I was asking was if you could string a few sentences together in a FR about how an out-of-towner views the new and improved Maverick's.

[QUOTE=Buko Max;1460672]Was not looking for any recommendations. All I was asking was if you could string a few sentences together in a FR about how an out-of-towner views the new and improved Maverick's.[/QUOTE]It's not markedly different than the old Maverick, BM, except no back room for short time. The girls come and go. I don't stay very long there.

[QUOTE=Buko Max;1460672]Was not looking for any recommendations. All I was asking was if you could string a few sentences together in a FR about how an out-of-towner views the new and improved Maverick's.[/QUOTE]I'm not quite sure what you're expecting here either. The place has barely changed since the first time I was in 3. 5 years ago. Same owner, some of the same girls. The owner still refers to it as SD, as do the staff, as do the regulars, taxi drivers, etc.

However, I understand they have introduced some theme nights, BOGOF on local drinks, lingerie night and school uniform night but this is a new thing since I was last there and haven't had first hand experience of it yet. :-(

[QUOTE=SexBomb123; 1461351]I'm not quite sure what you're expecting here either. The place has barely changed since the first time I was in 3. 5 years ago. Same owner, some of the same girls. The owner still refers to it as SD, as do the staff, as do the regulars, taxi drivers, etc.

However, I understand they have introduced some theme nights, BOGOF on local drinks, lingerie night and school uniform night but this is a new thing since I was last there and haven't had first hand experience of it yet. .[/QUOTE]Sure sounds like you have never been there. The owners have changed hands three times within the last 5 or so yrs. From Chris and John to Carl and now to Graham.

Can you post where you heard about the BOGOF on SML? That's news to me. Please explain.

When was the last time you visited?

[QUOTE=Stroker Ace88; 1461453]Sure sounds like you have never been there. The owners have changed hands three times within the last 5 or so yrs. From Chris and John to Carl and now to Graham.

Can you post where you heard about the BOGOF on SML? That's news to me. Please explain.

When was the last time you visited?[/QUOTE]Stroker, if you read carefully I said I first went 3. 5 (three and a half) years ago. Graeme was the owner then and still is. I'm a regular there and if you were to ask anyone for me there personally, including Graeme, the girls and the other regulars they would know me (hence why I know he is the new owner of pussycats and I'm guessing only people on the ground would know this recent news) but I'm not going to get into one of the "mine is bigger than yours" contests that you seem to love to host here. I have no reason to lie and have nothing to prove. I'll accept you are the font of all knowledge, I have no need to get into a pissing contest.

I was last there 10 weeks ago. The news on their theme nights I received on my facebook page via their profile there, so it's a new thing. (Pic attached)

[QUOTE=SexBomb123; 1461806]Stroker, if you read carefully I said I first went 3. 5 (three and a half) years ago. Graeme was the owner then and still is. I'm a regular there and if you were to ask anyone for me there personally, including Graeme, the girls and the other regulars they would know me (hence why I know he is the new owner of pussycats and I'm guessing only people on the ground would know this recent news) but I'm not going to get into one of the "mine is bigger than yours" contests that you seem to love to host here. I have no reason to lie and have nothing to prove. I'll accept you are the font of all knowledge, I have no need to get into a pissing contest.

I was last there 10 weeks ago. The news on their theme nights I received on my facebook page via their profile there, so it's a new thing. (Pic attached) [/QUOTE]SB123,

3. 5yrs ago? LOL that's rather impossible or you're really bad with math. Carl was the owner three years ago.

If you look back on the "General Information" thread in the Cebu seb-section you can clearly see my posts dated 4-10-2011 and 4-23-2011 that deal with Graham taking over ownership of SD from Carl. I knew a month before the official transfer who the new owner was. I kept my mouth shut, because until it happened no need to announce anything. Pussycats? LOL, there's more coming but I will keep my mouth shut.

I have known Graham since he was in short pants. Did you know Chris and John? Did you know Carl? I met Carl in Cebu before he even owned SD. He asked for my advice because he settled on two bars and didn't know which one to buy. I told him the bar business is a shite business but I always kinda liked SD.

Anyways no need to get into a pissing match so long as you get your facts straight.

[QUOTE=Stroker Ace88; 1461880]SB123,

3. 5yrs ago? LOL that's rather impossible or you're really bad with math. Carl was the owner three years ago.

If you look back on the "General Information" thread in the Cebu seb-section you can clearly see my posts dated 4-10-2011 and 4-23-2011 that deal with Graham taking over ownership of SD from Carl. I knew a month before the official transfer who the new owner was. I kept my mouth shut, because until it happened no need to announce anything. Pussycats? LOL, there's more coming but I will keep my mouth shut.

I have known Graham since he was in short pants. Did you know Chris and John? Did you know Carl? I met Carl in Cebu before he even owned SD. He asked for my advice because he settled on two bars and didn't know which one to buy. I told him the bar business is a shite business but I always kinda liked SD.

Anyways no need to get into a pissing match so long as you get your facts straight.[/QUOTE]Maybe my math is bad, as I did not know either Chris or John. May 2011 would tie in as I'd possibly only been to LS before then and my visits to Cebu were less frequent. Either way, everyone still refers to it as SD and the flyer shows there's not exactly been a change in branding over the last 2. 5 years.

Hope you can enlighten us on what other than Pussycats is coming, whether the other proposed new place is back on the cards. So much happens in what seems like a short space of time when out of town. Have you been to pussycats since the refurb? Opinions? It was never one of my favourites previously and I never got a good feeling for the place or the pushy mamasan.

Happy to meet up for a beer if you're about when I am back next.

Anyone been to Ferrari yet and can post a report?

Drink prices? Barfine or KTV setup? LD prices? Local-Kano-Korean clientele?

Bueller? Bueller? Anyone?

Anyone been in the new [b]Sapphire Bar[/b] And can post a report?

Info on drink prices and if they serve food the prices on that too. Are the drink prices the same at the bar downstairs vs upstairs?

I understand that the new setup means there is a regular bar on the street level and filipinas are on offer upstairs, can someone confirm and post what the prices are? Is massage still on offer or did the new owner cut it?

For those that do not know, Cobra Bar over on F. Ramos was sold awhile back and after renovations it reopened as Sapphire Bar. Not to be confused with the Sapphire Bar that's located over at Movenpick Resort Mactan.

I used to visit the old Cobra Bar but I haven't been to the new setup.

Cheers.

I was there twice and wasn't overly impressed. The downstairs bar is done up nicely, but both times there were too few customers so the upstairs was closed. I never saw the upstairs. There were a few rather plain gals around, but none made eye contact nor seemed interested in conversation. Basically they all hung around watching tv. Filipino TV. Later at J Ave I bumped into one of the gals. Took her to my room and was disappointed with her performance.

I don't know the prices of the extra services, but it's worth going to for a beer to check it out. I was at Holiday Plaza so it was just a few meters down the road.

Another new place is Cubano, which is on the same street as Red lips (the street between Vienna Cafe and Yellow Cab pizza). They have an outdoor section which was packed. There was live music. Inside the place is nice and might be good for a date or even some hunting. It was quiet the time I went inside, but things might pick up. X.

[QUOTE=Stroker Ace88; 1462855]Anyone been in the new [b]Sapphire Bar[/b] And can post a report?

Info on drink prices and if they serve food the prices on that too. Are the drink prices the same at the bar downstairs vs upstairs?

I understand that the new setup means there is a regular bar on the street level and filipinas are on offer upstairs, can someone confirm and post what the prices are? Is massage still on offer or did the new owner cut it?

For those that do not know, Cobra Bar over on F. Ramos was sold awhile back and after renovations it reopened as Sapphire Bar. Not to be confused with the Sapphire Bar that's located over at Movenpick Resort Mactan.

I used to visit the old Cobra Bar but I haven't been to the new setup.

Cheers.[/QUOTE]

Thanks for the reports X Man. I am coming to Cebu in a few weeks for my annual 6 month stay. Always looking for the new places in town. Will check out Cubano for sure.

Hi members,

I would be grateful if the senior members can help me with the usual barfine in the various bars in cebu like vikings, etc. Last week when I was there I was asked for 3000 and 5 LDs which I politely declined.

[QUOTE=PrinceMak; 1474676]Hi members,

I would be grateful if the senior members can help me with the usual barfine in the various bars in cebu like vikings, etc. Last week when I was there I was asked for 3000 and 5 LDs which I politely declined.[/QUOTE]PrinceMak,

So how about a trip report? What bars did you visit and what was the result? Thoughts? The 3000php might be the regular barfine a bar / KTV but no way to know for sure because you did not post any details.

This is not 7th grade english class, so no need for a book report. Just post the basics. When, where, and WTF happened.

I'm with WR on this. Newbs need to contribute more and ask less.

Give and take di ba.

Did you just write,"annual 6 month stay"? No offense, but I really, really hate you.

Another new place is the Irish bar in the same area as J ave, but toward F. Osmena circle.

As for Sapphire (formerly Cobra) on Ramos, I just came across a message on another message board that says the 2nd floor isn't finished. So, the good news is that things might become more interesting at Sapphire in the future. The bad news is that they lied to me. Or to the other guy. I was told closed because of lack of customers in August. The recent post was early September.

A place I wanted to investigate, but never got the chance was MO2 in Mandaue. I've also heard Liza's Fun Sea Pub in Mandaue has reopened. Hope the Old Dog can investigate further. X.

[QUOTE=LevDog;1474503]Thanks for the reports X Man. I am coming to Cebu in a few weeks for my annual 6 month stay. Always looking for the new places in town. Will check out Cubano for sure.[/QUOTE]

See the link below, usual suspects involved in the raid.

And all the customers are "dirty old men". Speaking for myself I wash / shower every day LOL.

Note what the club's lawyer says. Makes no difference with or without a search warrant it seems.

[url]http://www.sunstar.com.ph/cebu/local-news/2013/09/23/43-saved-2-cebu-bars-304799[/url]

[QUOTE=Stroker Ace88; 1475008]PrinceMak,

So how about a trip report? What bars did you visit and what was the result? Thoughts? The 3000php might be the regular barfine a bar / KTV but no way to know for sure because you did not post any details.

This is not 7th grade english class, so no need for a book report. Just post the basics. When, where, and WTF happened.

I'm with WR on this. Newbs need to contribute more and ask less.

Give and take di ba.[/QUOTE]I visited Mango vikings, where I spent some time and bought a LD to the girl I liked and had called over to sit with me. When I asked her about the barfine to take her out she quoted the mentioned 3000 and 5 LDs. When I told her I was looking for a ST. 2-3 hrs. 2 pops, she came down to 2500 and 3 LDs which I politely declined.

Got out and headed to J Ave. Filled with koreans. Danced and bought a girl who said she was from infinity a drink. She quoted 3000 for the same ST. Managed to get her down to 2000 and when we were about to leave she insisted I pay her in advance which I refused based on the advice of the senior members here. Met another really hot looking girl and after the usual drinks and dancing she quoted 4000 for ST. Which I had to refuse again. And sadly went back to my hotel alone.

[QUOTE=PrinceMak; 1475664]I visited Mango vikings, where I spent some time and bought a LD to the girl I liked and had called over to sit with me. When I asked her about the barfine to take her out she quoted the mentioned 3000 and 5 LDs. When I told her I was looking for a ST. 2-3 hrs. 2 pops, she came down to 2500 and 3 LDs which I politely declined.

Got out and headed to J Ave. Filled with koreans. Danced and bought a girl who said she was from infinity a drink. She quoted 3000 for the same ST. Managed to get her down to 2000 and when we were about to leave she insisted I pay her in advance which I refused based on the advice of the senior members here. Met another really hot looking girl and after the usual drinks and dancing she quoted 4000 for ST. Which I had to refuse again. And sadly went back to my hotel alone.[/QUOTE]Read the link posted by WR below. 3000php is the going rate around Mango if you're new. The regular customers / expats get a slightly better rate but YMMV.

Personally you should have taken the 2500php short time offer. Best if you're a newbie to discuss all the things you want from the GRO while in the bar BEFORE paying and make sure she is ok with all of it. Bargirls are like lions, they can smell a newbie from a long way off. You're fresh meat to them LOL. I personally would have bought a drink for the bargirl and after awhile asked to see her kitty. You are doing this to check if she is on her period and to see if she is comfy with you inside her panties. If you get any kind of resistance get rid of her and find another one because that resistance will only increase once in the room.

Get the bargirl to call over the mamasan to seal the deal and once again go over all the details with both the bargirl and the mamasan listening so there is no misunderstandings. Buy the mamasan a drink if one of the three LD's were not already given to her while the bargirl is in the back getting ready.

[QUOTE=X Man; 1475197]Did you just write,"annual 6 month stay"? No offense, but I really, really hate you.

For the last 30 years I was coming to the Philippines for 1 to 2 weeks a year. My plan was when I retire to stay long term and this will be the 3rd consecutive year thatI will be here from October- April. My dream has worked even better then I expected. I don't use the bars or dating sites for my mongering, and I did detail in the past my modus of acquiring pristine 18- 21 year old girls. Unfortunately the haters came out, the principal one was apparently arrested- what a surprise!..[/QUOTE]I have not decided yet, but I am thinking of paying more this year for my short term girls. In the past two years, I always gave 1,000 for short time which included at least 2 rounds. However, I am thinking of raising it to 1,500 this year. One reason is that I always want to help my girls and the money is very important to them. Many of my girls come to me when they need money for school tuition and then return because quite frankly they need money for so many other reasons. Usually the money goes to support their families, and I think 1,500 would be more then fair. Again, thanks for the update X.

Senior domestic monger here (check my posts in Atlanta) but a noob to the Phils:

I have a Filipina MILF here in the US. She's from Cebu (province). Always heard, via reports, that visiting the Phils was best in January because air tickets are cheaper and the weather is cooler. She told me that in January that there's a festival called Sinulog, so air ticket prices are more expensive then. Is that true? I would think that mongers wouldn't care about such events as the influx of tourists would increase pussy prices and ruin it for local mongers. Therefore, what is the best month / price to visit Cebu from a mongering standpoint?

[QUOTE=Niteluvr;1475963]I have a Filipina MILF here in the US. She's from Cebu (province). Always heard, via reports, that visiting the Phils was best in January because air tickets are cheaper and the weather is cooler. She told me that in January that there's a festival called Sinulog, so air ticket prices are more expensive then. Is that true? I would think that mongers wouldn't care about such events as the influx of tourists would increase pussy prices and ruin it for local mongers. Therefore, what is the best month / price to visit Cebu from a mongering standpoint?[/QUOTE]Don't visit Cebu during Sinulog. Usually the last week in January. I have tried it twice now (once in 1999; a second in 2008) , and vowed never again.

Traffic clogs all streets and doesn't move, so taxis, if you can get one, find it hard to move; pickpockets are everywhere and the city is packed with visitors. Hotels are booked out and service in them (such as breakfasts) is chaotic. Your stay will not be restful.

Anytime from December 1 through to end Feb is OK from a weather point of view (excluding the Christmas / NY week)

Hi Red, I will be there Jan 2. 8 and assume that will be ok. Taking a sweet young thing to Bodos Bamboo Resort in Alcoy for two of those days. I've already booked all of my hotels through agoda.

[QUOTE=Red Kilt; 1475984]Don't visit Cebu during Sinulog. Usually the last week in January. I have tried it twice now (once in 1999; a second in 2008) , and vowed never again.

Traffic clogs all streets and doesn't move, so taxis, if you can get one, find it hard to move; pickpockets are everywhere and the city is packed with visitors. Hotels are booked out and service in them (such as breakfasts) is chaotic. Your stay will not be restful.

Anytime from December 1 through to end Feb is OK from a weather point of view (excluding the Christmas / NY week) [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=D Cups;1476134]Hi Red, I will be there Jan 2. 8 and assume that will be ok. Taking a sweet young thing to Bodos Bamboo Resort in Alcoy for two of those days. I've already booked all of my hotels through agoda.[/QUOTE]No problem with those dates mate, and the weather will be OK too.

Visiting Cebu right up until the day before the Sinulog week starts is OK.

It's just the crazy nature of the crowds that annoys me. The street parade is fantastic, but it is just like all the other street parades (Masskara in Bacolod; Sandugo in Bohol, Ati Atihan in Kalibo; Dinagyang in Iloilo; Kadayawan in Davao etc).

Been there. Seen them all. Have a tee shirt as proof LOL

[QUOTE=Niteluvr;1475963]Therefore, what is the best month / price to visit Cebu from a mongering standpoint?[/QUOTE]From the USA, the lowest airfares are January through May and October up until December 15. You might be taking your chances in October weather wise. Avoid the holidays including the third weekend in January where Sinulog festivities come to a crescendo and hotel rooms are sold out at 100% markup. Bonus time is when students are between semesters!

Good to know, thanks, Red. I'm not much for crowds, either.

[QUOTE=Red Kilt; 1476734]No problem with those dates mate, and the weather will be OK too.

Visiting Cebu right up until the day before the Sinulog week starts is OK.

It's just the crazy nature of the crowds that annoys me. The street parade is fantastic, but it is just like all the other street parades (Masskara in Bacolod; Sandugo in Bohol, Ati Atihan in Kalibo; Dinagyang in Iloilo; Kadayawan in Davao etc).

Been there. Seen them all. Have a tee shirt as proof LOL[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Wicked Roger; 1475340]See the link below, usual suspects involved in the raid.

And all the customers are "dirty old men". Speaking for myself I wash / shower every day LOL.

Note what the club's lawyer says. Makes no difference with or without a search warrant it seems.

[url]http://www.sunstar.com.ph/cebu/local-news/2013/09/23/43-saved-2-cebu-bars-304799[/url][/QUOTE]Seems that the IJM doesn't have as much pull as they thought. Both clubs have re-opened, but are still on the city's radar and are not out of the hot water yet. I wonder if any of the GRO's have returned? I'd be cautious about these places until they get their affairs in order (read as until all of the payoffs are completed and things settle down again).

[url]http://cebudailynews.ph/news/story/20261/rama-wont-close-bars-despite-trafficking-cases[/url]

[url]http://www.sunstar.com.ph/cebu/local-news/2013/09/26/2-bars-were-raided-will-continue-operating-305505[/url]

[QUOTE=Pip Jaeger; 1477525]Seems that the IJM doesn't have as much pull as they thought. Both clubs have re-opened, but are still on the city's radar and are not out of the hot water yet. I.

[url]http://cebudailynews.ph/news/story/20261/rama-wont-close-bars-despite-trafficking-cases[/url]

[url]http://www.sunstar.com.ph/cebu/local-news/2013/09/26/2-bars-were-raided-will-continue-operating-305505[/url][/QUOTE]I saw the same news and heard from a cutie (college girl) who was thinking of going there for extra pocket money but decided to go to Arena instead. Her rationale being the same as yours and she did not want her father finding out via a call from the police LOL.

Also she used to be in Arena and knows the score, and is super cute so is bound to get her semester fees sorted out soon.

Newbie in Cebu but some exp from other places. Checked out Vikings Bar on Saturday. Quiet but funny ladies. Very bubbly. Went to the bar next door and next door and next door then mango square. The hottest cutie was a LB so back to vicking 2:30 my 2 girls were still there. Waited till 3 to leave with them back to mango square. Woke up next to another cutie. 21 lovely body. Don't know how that has happened. I am new here and not sure how the picture policy is. So I'll read later this week and maybe post them. Any other advice on good spots is welcome. Will report more soon.

[QUOTE=Buko Max;1476900]From the USA, the lowest airfares are January through May and October up until December 15. You might be taking your chances in October weather wise. Avoid the holidays including the third weekend in January where Sinulog festivities come to a crescendo and hotel rooms are sold out at 100% markup. Bonus time is when students are between semesters![/QUOTE]Thanks for the info BM. Are you currently living there? Would like to ask you some questions via PM if you don't mind. Got a Filipina MILF here in the US from Cebu, the reason for my inquiries.

[QUOTE=Niteluvr;1479181]Thanks for the info BM. Are you currently living there? Would like to ask you some questions via PM if you don't mind. Got a Filipina MILF here in the US from Cebu, the reason for my inquiries.[/QUOTE]No problema, ask away!

Another one closed but seems no IJM. Odd as I know this place and they never let me take their clothes off. I am not a lover of KTV and only go there for a specific reason. May it is Christmas and the turkey is not fat enogh. Last few paragraphs make interesting reading.

[url]http://www.philstar.com/cebu-news/2013/12/21/1270523/lewd-obscene-shows-city-padlocks-bar-one-year[/url]

Rumour Hits that they are closed / last night over a dispute between owners?

[QUOTE=Col Law;1518608]Rumour Hits that they are closed / last night over a dispute between owners?[/QUOTE]As far as I know, they both have the same owner.

[QUOTE=Col Law;1518608]Rumour Hits that they are closed / last night over a dispute between owners?[/QUOTE]Same owner. Whatever chismis (gossip) you heard does not sound as if it comes from an informed source, since they didn't know both bars are owned by the same guy.

However there's talk around Cebu about issues / problems surrounding the pussycats / jaberwockey situation. I will not go into detail.

[QUOTE=Stroker Ace88; 1519060]Same owner. Whatever chismis (gossip) you heard does not sound as if it comes from an informed source, since they didn't know both bars are owned by the same guy.

However there's talk around Cebu about issues / problems surrounding the pussycats / jaberwockey situation. I will not go into detail.[/QUOTE]I know my sources , have lost there daily income, no prizes for guessing there occupation. But that are still closed tonight also!

[QUOTE=X Man; 1474284]I was there twice and wasn't overly impressed. The downstairs bar is done up nicely, but both times there were too few customers so the upstairs was closed. I never saw the upstairs. There were a few rather plain gals around, but none made eye contact nor seemed interested in conversation. Basically they all hung around watching tv. Filipino TV. Later at J Ave I bumped into one of the gals. Took her to my room and was disappointed with her performance.

I don't know the prices of the extra services, but it's worth going to for a beer to check it out. I was at Holiday Plaza so it was just a few meters down the road.

Another new place is Cubano, which is on the same street as Red lips (the street between Vienna Cafe and Yellow Cab pizza). They have an outdoor section which was packed. There was live music. Inside the place is nice and might be good for a date or even some hunting. It was quiet the time I went inside, but things might pick up. X.[/QUOTE]Sapphires is now an American oriented sports bar. Watched the football games today and he will be open to watch the games next week and the Super Bowl also. Live. Cute waitresses, but no takeout. Except for food.

[QUOTE=Col Law;1519068]I know my sources , have lost there daily income, no prizes for guessing there occupation. But that are still closed tonight also![/QUOTE]You might know your sources, but if they didn't even know both bars are owned by the same guy, they are not informed. They will insist they are in-the-know (local pride / save face) , but they are the last to figure / find things out.

I remember when Carl owned Silver Dollar. I went in one afternoon and sat at the bar and chatted to a few girls I knew. I ordered a SML and it arrived warm as [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url]. That's a big no-no and I asked to get a cold one. The bartender told me the beer order just arrived and it was the first order they had delivered in two weeks, and it was COD (Cash on Delivery). I asked one of the girls what was going on. She shrugged her shoulders so I asked the bartender what was up. She gave me a glass with ice for my SML and she also told me things were slow at the bar and the credit card machine was taken out a few days before. The writing was on the wall. It was clear to me the bar was on it's last legs. The staff didn't seem to think anything was wrong, or they played it off to the customers that things were still cool but I had known them a long time and could tell they didn't know or didn't care.

[QUOTE=Stroker Ace88;1519827]You might know your sources, but if they didn't even know both bars are owned by the same guy, they are not informed. They will insist they are in-the-know (local pride / save face) , but they are the last to figure / find things out.[/QUOTE]Instead of having an argument about who knows most, is Silver Dollar aka Mavericks open or not?

Is Lone Star open or not? Sinulog is fast approaching. Graham better get his act together.

[quote=red kilt; 1519843]instead of having an argument about who knows most, is silver dollar aka mavericks open or not?

is lone star open or not? sinulog is fast approaching. graham better get his act together.[/quote]ahh and therein lies the crux of the matter. sinulog.

confucius bamboo grapevine says, better to lay low and choose not to open, than to get closed down di ba.

[quote=stroker ace88; 1519858]ahh and therein lies the crux of the matter. sinulog.

confucius bamboo grapevine says, better to lay low and choose not to open, than to get closed down di ba.[/quote]\\\\rumour strikes me that the lone star might have changed owner, so i have heard but retain the jabawoker and silver dollar

Col Law,

If you're in Cebu you might want to personally visit SD / Mavericks. You reported it closed but I'm hearing it's open.

If anyone else is in Cebu, would appreciate an update. I'm not in CC at this time.

One visit to SD / Mavericks and or Lone Star will put this rumor to bed.

Heading to Cebu next week, after a ten-day stint in Pattaya. It's been a while since I was on Mango Ave, but I'm wondering if there are any bars with skillful blow job girls working there. Compared to Thai ladies, I've always been unimpressed with the Filippina work ethic (and skill level) around giving a good blow job, so as I head over to Cebu I'd appreciate any pointers in the right direction. I'll post a FR report on my activities, by way of appreciation.

Thanks in advance,

- Gunga

[QUOTE=Stroker Ace88; 1520784]Col Law,

If you're in Cebu you might want to personally visit SD / Mavericks. You reported it closed but I'm hearing it's open.

If anyone else is in Cebu, would appreciate an update. I'm not in CC at this time.

One visit to SD / Mavericks and or Lone Star will put this rumor to bed.[/QUOTE]I Heard silver was only closed for 1 day, lone star had no news from her since last Thursday then it was still closed she said.

[QUOTE=Gunga Din; 1521344]Heading to Cebu next week, after a ten-day stint in Pattaya. It's been a while since I was on Mango Ave, but I'm wondering if there are any bars with skillful blow job girls working there. Compared to Thai ladies, I've always been unimpressed with the Filippina work ethic (and skill level) around giving a good blow job, so as I head over to Cebu I'd appreciate any pointers in the right direction. I'll post a FR report on my activities, by way of appreciation.

Thanks in advance,

- Gunga[/QUOTE]I don't know of any but am sure others will correct me, but the Filipinas I know have a great work ethic in the bedroom never any complaints about BBBJ and shagging. Depends who you meet and their level of experience GD. Same in Thailand, but I find the girls there much more mechanical.

If there was a 'blow row' someone (local government, do gooders, IJM etc) would have tried to close it down. Recently the mayor refused to reopen a KTV where the girls were appearing naked. Gosh how bad is that.

So Cebu (and the Philippines) is much tamer in that respect to Thailand. Even the blow row in AC was raided a few days ago (see FRs and news feeds).

[QUOTE=Col Law;1521360]I Heard silver was only closed for 1 day, lone star had no news from her since last Thursday then it was still closed she said.[/QUOTE]Lone Star reopened on Friday close today for festival

Hello all Cebu experts!

I have some questions I hope you can answer about Cebu. Basically I'm wondering where to find some good girls but with a bit of a tight time frame.

So I'll be in Cebu for about two nights then on to Bohol to visit some friends for a week next month. I'm flying from Tokyo but arriving really late, almost midnight. Then I'll be staying at the waterfront or similar for two nights before I move on. I visited last year and hooked up with two girls from planet X as I arrived earlier. I bar fined one the first night then had both over for a private threesome the next day. I kept in contact with one who promised to meet up and hook me up with her friends. But I think she's moved abroad to Hong Kong and has blocked my Facebook. Oh well.

Given this what's the best way to hook up an afternoon session with some hot girls? I prefer early twenties so I'm thinking

A. Wait until the next day then head to mango Street meet a bar girl or two then bar fine? Which bar do you guys think the best and friendliest girls are at now?

B. Try J Ave or similar club for hook up with someone for the night? I've never tried a Cebu regular night club

C. Use dia or a website to arrange something before I arrive? I never know what to look for on the site.

For some more detail, I'm half Filipino, half Caucasian 30 years old, well dressed and don't have too much trouble finding girls where I live in Japan right now. I know it's a stretch but If anyone could be good enough to recommend a girl via pm I'd be really grateful. Of course in happy to help if you want to know about Tokyo girls too!

Happy hunting all.

BC

[QUOTE=Basementcello; 1522930]Hello all Cebu experts!

I have some questions I hope you can answer about Cebu. Basically I'm wondering where to find some good girls but with a bit of a tight time frame.[/QUOTE]This is what Stroker suggested back in November 2012 when you asked a similar question.

[QUOTE=Stroker Ace88;1348097]Pay for it. If you are searching for the hottest filipina and you have only a few hours, go to the Mango bars where you can pick exactly the type of filipina you desire. If you prefer chasing semi or non pros on dating sites it will take time to meet and sort out the quality from the average filipinas, time you do not have. There are alot of young bucks around Cebu these days, so being 30 will get you a few more looks and giggles but in the end we all have to pay one way or another.[/QUOTE]Sound advice.

Being half pinoy IMHO could be an issue for some girls certainly the ones know always shy away from any 'pinoy'. Odd because some will see Koreans or Japanese but the word 'pinoy' seems to be a no-no.

[QUOTE=Col Law;1521503]Lone Star reopened on Friday close today for festival[/QUOTE]Can we please have an on-the-ground status report on these 2 bars?

Are they both open again or not? Don't care about last week or any tsismis or who owns what or even what happened during Sinulog; I just want to read a current situation report.

[QUOTE=Red Kilt; 1523622]Can we please have an on-the-ground status report on these 2 bars?

Are they both open again or not? Don't care about last week or any tsismis or who owns what or even what happened during Sinulog; I just want to read a current situation report.[/QUOTE]Both open as of last night.

[QUOTE=Dirtdog;1526166]Both open as of last night.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the update DD.

Seems like back to normal again.

Gentlemen and others,

Flying to Cebu Tues evening Philippine time, so time is short for info I suppose.

Someone said, time back, Mermaid Bar on Mactan Island is similar in quality girls, prices etc as Arena back in Cebu. Is this correct?

Any other places worth visiting? Thanks. I did place a full report on Arena a while back, couple of guys nominated it for Reports of Distinction, where it ended up.

On return from Mactan, will report my findings.

Thank you gents, and others.

[QUOTE=Sxxxx; 1526693]Gentlemen and others,

Flying to Cebu Tues evening Philippine time, so time is short for info I suppose.

Someone said, time back, Mermaid Bar on Mactan Island is similar in quality girls, prices etc as Arena back in Cebu. Is this correct?

Any other places worth visiting? Thanks. I did place a full report on Arena a while back, couple of guys nominated it for Reports of Distinction, where it ended up.

On return from Mactan, will report my findings.

Thank you gents, and others.[/QUOTE]IMO you can find a few gems at Mermaid, but the quality is lacking versus Arena.

Arena is the place to go if you want top shelf, but the price is also upper deck.

It's been awhile since my last visit to Mermaid so my info could be outdated. Last I heard Mermaid Bar was a hang out for Mactan Koreans and a few Japanese PEZA managers. They have a website and a FB page, but it hasn't been updated in years.

[url]http://www.club-mermaid.com/index.html[/url]

If you visit Mermaid post a report, I'm curious to read an update.

Enjoy Cebu.

[QUOTE=Stroker Ace88; 1526826]IMO you can find a few gems at Mermaid, but the quality is lacking versus Arena.

Arena is the place to go if you want top shelf, but the price is also upper deck.

It's been awhile since my last visit to Mermaid so my info could be outdated. Last I heard Mermaid Bar was a hang out for Mactan Koreans and a few Japanese PEZA managers. They have a website and a FB page, but it hasn't been updated in years.

[url]http://www.club-mermaid.com/index.html[/url]

If you visit Mermaid post a report, I'm curious to read an update.

Enjoy Cebu.[/QUOTE]Thanks for quick and objective response. Going on what you said, sounds like its not what I am looking for. Doubtful I will go, but if I do, yes I will report in detail. Might still go to Mactan, cause its a long time since I have checked out the islands action, and if do check it out, will give a comprehensive round up of all the places I visit.

Thanks

I will be catching up with a few DIA contacts and visiting the Mango Ave bars. I like the slummy shitty action so I will be checking out the Junquera basketball courts (if I can find them). I will give an update after I have been there.

Laters

What time do most of the bars close? And do many of the girls head to j avenue and turn into freelancers at that point?

[QUOTE=PussyFeelsGood;1531807]What time do most of the bars close? And do many of the girls head to j avenue and turn into freelancers at that point?[/QUOTE]I took a look at your posting history, and it's filled with useless comments, condescending posts directed at other members with absolutely zero information paid forward. If you have stayed in various SEA Countries as claimed, you should have took the time to post a trip report (or three) to help someone else out. You sir are a legend in your own mind and as a result you need to RTFF to get your question answered.

I wish you a good day.

Actually I've given info on Sihanoukville

You are right I've given no info on Philippines because there is a group of 5-10 guys here who ruin this section of the forum making up their own rules acting like they run the place when in reality they are just normal members like everyone else.

And looking at your posting history just in the past few pages of this thread it seems all you do is make condescending remarks after everyones posts. Why are you so bitter? Its just a message board try and relax.

[QUOTE=Stroker Ace88; 1532120]I took a look at your posting history, and it's filled with useless comments, condescending posts directed at other members with absolutely zero information paid forward. If you have stayed in various SEA Countries as claimed, you should have took the time to post a trip report (or three) to help someone else out. You sir are a legend in your own mind and as a result you need to RTFF to get your question answered.

I wish you a good day.[/QUOTE]Well said SA.

See this link to a FR I did on the same subject only last month showing he has a dig at anyone who questions him and his MO. Ask question, post no FRs. BTW he said in earlier posts he lives on 900 pesos a month / a day (?) including room and girls so the quality must be high as are his non existent FRs on his adventures.

RTFF Pussy is always the best way to find what you need to find especially when you don't contribute and have been lurking around the boards long enough.

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1972-Angeles-City&p=1520335&viewfull=1#post1520335[/url]

[QUOTE=PussyFeelsGood;1531807]What time do most of the bars close? And do many of the girls head to j avenue and turn into freelancers at that point?[/QUOTE]They all close precisely at 3am and at exactly 03:03am every girl from every bar parade up to the square as they have nothing better to do but put themselves on display again after working a 10 or 12 hour shift. The best viewing spot is right in the middle of the street at the base of the hill (just past the intersection on of M. Gotianuy St) ; stand on the concrete divider and that'll put right in the center of the action! Be sure to report back on your experience.

[QUOTE=Pip Jaeger;1532348]Be sure to report back on your experience.[/QUOTE]That's is the man reason for mine and SA posts as he does not do that. While this is a public forum etc we do share and give and take, but you are a kind guy PJ. I am but she has to slim cute and bisexual LOL.

See you soon.

[QUOTE=Wicked Roger; 1532213]Well said SA.

See this link to a FR I did on the same subject only last month showing he has a dig at anyone who questions him and his MO. Ask question, post no FRs. BTW he said in earlier posts he lives on 900 pesos a month / a day (?) including room and girls so the quality must be high as are his non existent FRs on his adventures.

RTFF Pussy is always the best way to find what you need to find especially when you don't contribute and have been lurking around the boards long enough.

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1972-Angeles-City&p=1520335&viewfull=1#post1520335[/url][/QUOTE]WR,

I think he posted that he was staying in AC on 900USD per month, but I doubt he has ever lived there. May be spent a few weeks (or few days) there on a tourist visa but the newb never lived there. He posted recently on the AC section that there are no freelancer ST pickups available in AC which made me LMFAO, which is total bola.

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[QUOTE=Stroker Ace88; 1526826]IMO you can find a few gems at Mermaid, but the quality is lacking versus Arena.

Arena is the place to go if you want top shelf, but the price is also upper deck.

It's been awhile since my last visit to Mermaid so my info could be outdated. Last I heard Mermaid Bar was a hang out for Mactan Koreans and a few Japanese PEZA managers. They have a website and a FB page, but it hasn't been updated in years.

[url]http://www.club-mermaid.com/index.html[/url]

If you visit Mermaid post a report, I'm curious to read an update.

Enjoy Cebu.[/QUOTE]Did actually motor out to Mactan and checked Mermaid, cause someone said before its like Arena. Not so, Mermaid is rather small, budget furnished, around 15 girls on offer, two or three of non dancer Arena quality. Beer and ladies drinks, standard prices. Did ask barfine price, forgot, but was not Arena high. Most probably high for Mactan, but not for Cebu City. Small number of koreans, majority Western males, in total about 10 guys at Mermaid. If your living in Mactan a place you'd visit regularly I suppose, but motoring all the way from Cebu City, not worth it.

Whilst out there tried White Castle. This might have become an exclusive korean / japanese hangout, because security approached taxi before I could get out of it, and said, only a small number of girls, most of them have gone back to the Province. That is, the place is empty. Taxi driver took off, when he got some distance from the place driver told me, security story bullshit, they didn't want me, an Americano, to enter. Taxi drivers know. If there is a next time I will still enter, regardless of Security story. Bet you find only korean / japanese guys inside the place and bet girls don't want to go with you, per Management directions.

Once again, I don't think Mactan is worth motoring out to from Cebu City, especially if you take a girl, who has to motor all the way back to Mactan next morning, costing her or you around P250 in taxi fare. They feel less secure when taken far from their place of employment. All round, taking Mactan girls, when staying in Cebu City, is not appealing to the Punter or the girls. Staying in Mactan would be a different story though.

[QUOTE=Sxxxx;1534174]Once again, I don't think Mactan is worth motoring out to from Cebu City, especially if you take a girl, who has to motor all the way back to Mactan next morning, costing her or you around P250 in taxi fare. They feel less secure when taken far from their place of employment. All round, taking Mactan girls, when staying in Cebu City, is not appealing to the Punter or the girls. Staying in Mactan would be a different story though.[/QUOTE]I have tried that and it was a disaster as the girl was 'scared' to travel to the city! Insisted and a hotel in Mactan etc and was no fun at all so this is very sensible advice especially for newbies.

[QUOTE=Wicked Roger; 1532419]That's is the man reason for mine and SA posts as he does not do that. While this is a public forum etc we do share and give and take, but you are a kind guy PJ. I am but she has to slim cute and bisexual LOL.

See you soon.[/QUOTE]This is not true, I've been on this board under another name and still got the same ish from the clique that thinks they own the PI section of the forum when I posted my experiences.

95% of the posts in the PI section come from the same 10 guys even though PI is a pretty well traveled place, new posters may drop in but they don't stick around because of said clique.

[QUOTE=Sxxxx; 1534174]Did actually motor out to Mactan and checked Mermaid, cause someone said before its like Arena. Not so, Mermaid is rather small, budget furnished, around 15 girls on offer, two or three of non dancer Arena quality. Beer and ladies drinks, standard prices. Did ask barfine price, forgot, but was not Arena high. Most probably high for Mactan, but not for Cebu City. Small number of koreans, majority Western males, in total about 10 guys at Mermaid. If your living in Mactan a place you'd visit regularly I suppose, but motoring all the way from Cebu City, not worth it.

Whilst out there tried White Castle. This might have become an exclusive korean / japanese hangout, because security approached taxi before I could get out of it, and said, only a small number of girls, most of them have gone back to the Province. That is, the place is empty. Taxi driver took off, when he got some distance from the place driver told me, security story bullshit, they didn't want me, an Americano, to enter. Taxi drivers know. If there is a next time I will still enter, regardless of Security story. Bet you find only korean / japanese guys inside the place and bet girls don't want to go with you, per Management directions.

Once again, I don't think Mactan is worth motoring out to from Cebu City, especially if you take a girl, who has to motor all the way back to Mactan next morning, costing her or you around P250 in taxi fare. They feel less secure when taken far from their place of employment. All round, taking Mactan girls, when staying in Cebu City, is not appealing to the Punter or the girls. Staying in Mactan would be a different story though.[/QUOTE]Yep White Castle caters to an Asian clientele and because of it, I have stayed away. Same with Mermaids in the past, but I might have to check them out again after your report. I agree with WR about taking Mactan GRO's back to CC, most refuse if they are based on Lapux2.

Newbs pay attention. Sxxxx has been on ISG for a long time and he asked a question awhile back about Mermaid, and that he would post updated info if he visited. He then actually followed it up with a trip report to give back to others. He took the time to pay it forward. Give and take as WR pointed out. Something most newbs forget.

Sxxxx thanks for the updated info.

Not forgetting, that was only one relatively brief visit, predominantly Western man in attendance. 3 Koreans, about 7/10 others. Next time it might be predominantly Korean. Girls were of a respectable level yes, with 2 or 3 up to Arena standards, that too can change on a follow up trip. And it was a Sunday night, if I remember right, means could be better on the key night, Friday night. Next time I will enter White Castle, regardless of story by Security, and see what is going on inside the place.

My first trip to Cebu was a success, I was mainly going to do the DIA thing and visit a few bars. I went to the main Mango Ave bars the first night. They were pretty tame. I spent most of my time with DIA chicks. I got propositioned twice by girls in Ayala Mall but I did not partake. I had two successes from DIA, both straight into it and happy with 200 taxi money home. On the whole, I think I prefer straight Pay for Play, so much effort. Took the best of my DIA girls to Panglao Island for a few days on Alona beach. I don't think I will return to either Cebu or Panglao Island. Cebu was pretty ugly in my opinion, maybe I did not get to the nice places. I liked Ayala mall. I honestly liked Manila better, they have Manila bay and its nice to walk along the bay in the morning.

DIA girls are very hit and miss. Some girls I thought would show didn't.

I stayed three nights at the Crown Regency Towers. There is a Girlie bar next to it, it was called Mavericks, I think it is now called Shooters. I really enjoyed it. I went 3 times, first time was Sunday night. Ordered a drink and they gave me two, I'm like sweet! Didn't buy anyone a drink, one chick had her cans out which was nice. Actually I bought the waitress a drink, she was fun. Now that I think about it I did buy one of the girls a drink as well. She was trying to get me hard and talking about giving me a blow job, but at that time of night, with the number of drinks I had had, nothing was going to happen for me.

Next time I went, I saw a pretty little thing and bought her a couple of drinks, tried to get her to get her cans out for me. She wouldn't, I had a feel of them but nothing else. The girls were _all_ very wanting to be barfined. I asked how much, I was meeting a DIA girl so I was not interested. She said 2800, it was hard to hear so I said 1800 and she repeated 2800, no need to tip. I left to meet my girl and that was that.

Went back the next day and suddenly there is a girl on my back, the girl from the day before, not unexpectedly. Bought her a drink, asked her to get her cans out, no deal. She told me that I was correct, the bar fine was 1800. One of the dancers on stage was flashing her nipples, so obviously I bought her a drink and when she finished dancing she comes over and I now have 2 lovelies next to me. Nipple girl was _very_ experienced and she had titties in my face in no time. The first girl was feeling the competition and finally got her cans out and all in all, I had a great time. They were pretty desperate to be bar fined, but again I was meeting a DIA chick.

I went to J Ave a couple of times, the first night I concluded there were no pros in the club and headed out. Outside I was walking past the "Beat" Cafe and the waiter says," you want a beer, you want a girl?" I asked him how much for both, I don't remember how much for either, pretty sure 2500, but again I was too drunk to avail myself of the opportunity. I did have a beer and several of the girls approached me, there was respectable talent there.

I was going to meet one of my DIA girls at the Beat and on the way I saw an attractive girl with a nice tattoo. I said to her "nice tattoo," and she said something. I continued on along mango and just before the Beat cafe the girl is next to me, I am like sweet so I ask her if she wants a drink, and we go to the Beat. So I ask her to show me her tattoo, and she says, what tattoo, I don't have a tattoo. I ask her to turn around and sure enough, no tattoo. So she was just a random SW, I am going to meet my girl in 5 minutes and so I tell her that she needs to go. She says "you can be late," I gave her 100 and moved her on. My DIA girl later told me that she was very uncomfortable meeting at the Beat because it is a well know pimping station.

I found the Junquera Basket ball courts. Surprisingly there is a basketball court there. No action however. I went there twice. Plenty of pimps offering to get you a girl, but no ladies walking about. I sat in the basketball court drinking a couple of beers and the place is full of kids and families, I was talking to an old lady (who also offered to get me girls) and she said the area had been cleaned up. Cheep place to drink though. 35 peco a beer. Red horse is so strong, it knocked me sideways.

I walked up and down Colon St, got propositioned once, didn't ask how much. All the DIA girls warned me about Colon St thieves. Never felt safe there but noone tried to rob me, or touch me.

Great report Newb; thanks for sharing your experiences!

[QUOTE=Newbiee;1536471]My first trip to Cebu was a success, I was mainly going to do the DIA thing and visit a few bars. I went to the main Mango Ave bars the first night. They were pretty tame.[/quote]Just arrived in Cebu myself, the gf had to run off and do something for her sister so I took a ride down Mango Square about 10pm. A lot gong on, but didn't see anything I liked so I headed to the bars. Had the intention of bar hopping, but never made it past the second one, Sisters, where I found something to my liking. Not the best looking one there, but she had a good attitude and I simply got a good vibe from her too, so I took her back to the room for night of fun; my instincts about her for right and we had a great time. Donation was 2K, which was given later and she met me outside down the street a little. Will see her again as she's never been with a girl and is curious to try it as well a 3some.

I agree, the bars there for the most part are much more laid back compared to AC or even to certain degree Subic; I think it depends sometimes on the crowd. As a side note, it looked like the two that were raided and shut down during my last visit in Oct were re-opened. I'll stop in the next time I'm in the area and report back.

[quote]DIA girls are very hit and miss. Some girls I thought would show didn't.[/quote]Quite true, I've had the same experience with many of them. Me thinks some girls jut say yes to be polite and because it's not in their nature to say no. A few others didn't have load on their phone. If they were really hot and we had exchanged a few messages with them expressing what appeared to be a genuine interest in meeting, then I always made sure to get what cell carrier they used. I'd text them and if no reply within a reasonable amount of time then I'd send a 30-50p load. That usually worked, but if it didn't then, oh well, time to move on to the next one; not like there's a shortage of willing girls here.

[quote]I found the Junquera Basket ball courts. Surprisingly there is a basketball court there. No action however. I went there twice. Plenty of pimps offering to get you a girl, but no ladies walking about. I sat in the basketball court drinking a couple of beers and the place is full of kids and families, I was talking to an old lady (who also offered to get me girls) and she said the area had been cleaned up. Cheep place to drink though. 35 peco a beer. Red horse is so strong, it knocked me sideways.[/QUOTE]Might check the BB courts out myself, just out of curiosity. Can you provide directions? PM them to me if you prefer.

There are at least 3 different ways in, the least scariest is to enter from Dionisio Jakosalem Street, Cebu City, Central Visayas, Philippines via a lane halfway between Pantaleon del Rosario Street and A. Bonifacio Street and head in the direction of Junquera.

I found it by a pimp leading me down a lane off P. Cui Street, where the road turns right to go to Junquera, turn left and go down the ally for 100 meters then turn right down an alley which leads onto the BB court.

The scariest is to enter from Junquera and go through a building that is some sort of a Mayoral public building. You go to the right and there is a passage through the building with *hundreds and hundreds* of people who I guess are squatting there.

Don't take your phone, don't take your wallet, the pimps were quoting 1000 Pecos (which I did not try to negotioate) , so if you take 1200 you will have a blast. The pimp was trying to take me to the Dionisio Jakosalem Street entrance for the girls, but I just stopped on the BB courts and bought a drink, they have little hole in the wall shops in the public building. There are lots of kids, lots of mummies. None who showed the slightest interest in me. I went back in the day time and there was still no action. I was there pretty early at night, before 8:00pm so YMMV if you go later.

[quote=newbiee;1536471]my first trip to cebu was a success, i was mainly going to do the dia thing and visit a few bars. i went to the main mango ave bars the first night. they were pretty tame. i spent most of my time with dia chicks. i got propositioned twice by girls in ayala mall but i did not partake. i had two successes from dia, both straight into it and happy with 200 taxi money home.[/quote]imo 200php for short time is extreme kuripot territory. i think you did not partake of any ayala freelancers because they walked away lol themselves silly at a 200php offer. i also think you did not take out any gro's because the barfine was too high for you. lol, i think if you went to arena you would blow a gasket.

your kuripot ways might give you some kind of mental thrill, st for $5usd but [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] off the wrong filipina and she will take you to the cleaners. she might inform her pnp cousin / uncle / neighbor that you need to be taught a lesson. all it takes is a [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] claim against you (the cctv tapes and hotel security as witnesses along with her word) and after letting your cheap ass rot for a few weeks in jail, you will take any sort of offer to settle to get out, minus whatever money you had inside your bank account. in fact if she is already married the case doesn't need to be false because adultery is a crime in the philippines.

cheap charlies are forewarned, give enough to take good care of a filipina (min 1000php st) and not what newbies [b]think[/b] is enough.

Newbiee said: "I found the Junquera Basket ball courts. Surprisingly there is a basketball court there. No action however. I went there twice. Plenty of pimps offering to get you a girl, but no ladies walking about. I sat in the basketball court drinking a couple of beers and the place is full of kids and families, I was talking to an old lady (who also offered to get me girls) and she said the area had been cleaned up. Cheep place to drink though. 35 peco a beer. Red horse."

I asked (in the ISG- Cebu General Info section) about that famous location back in 18 Jan, but no-one replied.

Thanks for the update info Newbiee.

There was always an oversupply of pimps there, so not much has changed.

Like you, I used to sit around there drinking cheap beer and looking out for talent.

Prices have risen a bit and the girls are less obvious, but still available.

[QUOTE=Stroker Ace88;1539604]IMO 200php for short time is extreme kuripot territory. I think you did not partake of any Ayala freelancers because they walked away LOL themselves silly at a 200php offer. I also think you did not take out any GRO's because the barfine was too high for you. LOL, I think if you went to Arena you would blow a gasket.[/QUOTE]200 was a typo, I paid 2000 php but did not bother to correct myself. I gave the girls who I had a meal with, but nothing else. 200 taxi money. I agree it would be criminal to be that tight. BTW, all the girls continue to chat with me, LoLs

was restless and did a little barhopping last night; call it a recon mission as i had no intention of taking a girl (had an earlier session with ms. preggo and was drained). my mo was just to have a drink or two, chat with one or two girls, not buy any lady drinks, but did tip them for their time.

jabberwocky (pussycats renamed) : medium sized; they must be very paranoid since the raid; about 20 girls, most looked to be in mid twenties and even a couple of older looking hags, lots of fuglies (thought two were lady boys, nasty & masculine looking; still not sure and didn't want to get too close, lol) , also lots of rice bellies and baby pouches jiggling around, only two there i was even remotely interested in; local drinks: 80p, was quoted ld's: 200p and 250p after 9pm, take out: 2, 800p given directly to the lady off premises. very small stage with 3 girls dancing at all times, different one comes up after every song as they shuffle to the side. light pressure from the girls and waitresses for ld's, after i told them i was just barhopping i wasn't hassled anymore.

planet x: larger bar, good mix of girls, about 30 or so, some quite good looking, local drinks: 80p, ld's: 150, take out 2k (given direct to the girls; meet outside after she changes, not leave together). stage was hard to see from the bar area due to layout, think large rectangle with the bar at one end and the stage about two thirds of the way away with a few mirrored columns in the line of view; one to two girls dancing at all times. light to no pressure for ld's.

erik the red: medium sized, good mix of girls, about 25 to 30, local drinks: 80p (poured heavy, had a rum and coke. 3 parts rum & 1 part coke) , ld's: was told 250p, but the guy next me was charged 150p (happy hour pricing?) , take out: 3, 700 (last oct i was quoted less, i think 3k, so don't know if the price increased or girl was just trying to get a little extra; also given direct to the girl and meet up outside). light pressure for ld's.

vikings: larger bar with about the best selection last night, about 40-50 girls, of course a few fatties and fuglies, but also a fair amount of cute spinners. same pricing as erik's. light pressure from the girls / waitresses for ld's.

dimples: medium sized, only about 8 to10 girls out of which only 1 or 2 were remotely cute; the rest fugly and / or fat; one tall and super skinny girl there, but even two bags wouldn't help her, lol. got swarmed by 5 to 6 girls after sitting down, they were pretty aggressive about wanting ld's even after i told them i was just barhopping. local drink: 100p, ld's: 230, take out: 3, 700. one to two girls at a time shuffling around on the stage for two or three songs before switching.

lone star: medium sized, about 20 to 25 girls, mix leaned towards fatties, a few fuglies, but also several cuties. local drink: 90p, ld's: 200p, take out: 2, 700p (given off premisis).3-5 girls shuffling around on the stage. light to no pressure for ld's.

most of the bars were fairly empty and had a 50/50 mix of koreans (with a few japanese rep001tered about) and white guys; the only exception was the lone star, which although was not crowed by any means, was only patronized by white guys (usually the case from what i understand).

as always, ymmv.

Too much trouble to apologize? That a pretty big mistake, my friend. I'm pretty sure I'll be bending over backwards to give you the most accurate and detailed info into the future.

[QUOTE=Newbiee;1540445]200 was a typo, I paid 2000 php but did not bother to correct myself. I gave the girls who I had a meal with, but nothing else. 200 taxi money. I agree it would be criminal to be that tight. BTW, all the girls continue to chat with me, LoLs[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Pip Jaeger; 1540480]Was restless and did a little barhopping last night; call it a recon mission as I had no intention of taking a girl (had an earlier session with Ms. Preggo and was drained). My MO was just to have a drink or two, chat with one or two girls, not buy any lady drinks, but did tip them for their time.

Jabberwocky (Pussycats renamed) : Medium sized; they must be very paranoid since the raid; about 20 girls, most looked to be in mid twenties and even a couple of older looking hags, lots of fuglies (thought two were lady boys, nasty & masculine looking; still not sure and didn't want to get too close, LOL) , also lots of rice bellies and baby pouches jiggling around, only two there I was even remotely interested in; local drinks: 80p, was quoted LD's: 200p and 250p after 9pm, take out: 2, 800p given directly to the lady off premises. Very small stage with 3 girls dancing at all times, different one comes up after every song as they shuffle to the side. Light pressure from the girls and waitresses for LD's, after I told them I was just barhopping I wasn't hassled anymore...[/QUOTE]Hey Pip,

I'm considering visiting Cebu for the first time but I'm so addicted to Angeles. Just wanted to hear your thoughts on the two. Dang though, Cebu Barfines are pretty darn expensive eh?

Thanks,

YG

[QUOTE=YG365; 1541040]Hey Pip,

I'm considering visiting Cebu for the first time but I'm so addicted to Angeles. Just wanted to hear your thoughts on the two. Dang though, Cebu Barfines are pretty darn expensive eh?

Thanks,

YG[/QUOTE]Apples and Oranges Bro, you can't really compare the two. Cebu is nowhere near "in your face" as AC, but there's plenty of action here; you just have to work at it a little more and be a little better prepared. The novelty of AC has pretty much worn off for me, not to say I won't go back again, but only for short visits. As many here already know I stay in the Phils for a couple of months each visit so I have the time to pursue other venues and I don't need to rely on bars for entertainment; but in Cebu they are a good backup for those inevitable "Murphy's Law" days when all of your best laid plans go to shit and you're still horny as hell.

As for the barfines here, yeah they tend to be a bit higher then the average in AC (which I would say is about 2K for the non so-called "spotlight" girls) , but then again there's only a handful of bars and IMHO their pricing is not too out of line. Also, many of the bar girls here will meet up privately, IMO even more so then in AC as they are less likely to get busted by the bar. But frankly, you don't even need to step foot into a bar here to find a girl. It was only on my last visit back in October that I first went into the bars here, I've used various dating sites with great success as well as mall meet ups on my prior visits. From there I was, and still am, frequently able to meet a girls friends, cousins, etc; now I'm at the point I rarely even log onto sites like DIA anymore as I have already built up a decent sized contact list of dependable girls. But then again, I don't need a new conquest or different girl every day; I'm more then happy to repeat with girls I like and add new ones to the list when I have the time or am so inclined.

Hooking up in Cebu requires a bit of work, but I like the challenge, I enjoy the hunt (though sometimes the conquest can be anti-climatic as there are starfishes here too, LOL) and I like the varied looks of the girls here. IMHO for guys coming here for just a week or so a multi-pronged approach is best. Arrange meet ups with dating site girls for morning, late morning or mid-day (whenever possible as some may have day jobs) , if it works, then you have all afternoon or even perhaps all night as well to enjoy them. If she's a no show or a dog, then you can pursue other contacts as you still have time. Early evening you can try your hand at the mall girls (I'd say Ayala is the best) , nothing there to your liking, then head to the bars or Mango square for FL action. Even if you had an early day or afternoon tryst you can still meet another dating site girl or head to the bars / Mango square.

As always YMMV, but I prefer the laid back approach in Cebu and so far this trip a day hasn't gone by that I haven't been without a girl since I landed (even with me dumping the gf on day day 3; I won't go into the reasons here) ; although I may a take a day off soon to recoup, LOL. In addition, I've made a few friends here, both foreigners and locals, so it's good to hang with them and catch up. Cebu isn't for everyone, as some past reports indicate, but it works for me and many others who've visited. I'd suggest you give it a try if for no other reason then to say: "Been there, done that, got the T-shirt"; and you never know, you may find the love (or at least lust) of your life here, hahaha.

[QUOTE=Pip Jaeger; 1541157]Apples and Oranges Bro, you can't really compare the two. Cebu is nowhere near "in your face" as AC, but there's plenty of action here; you just have to work at it a little more and be a little better prepared.

Hooking up in Cebu requires a bit of work, but I like the challenge, I enjoy the hunt (though sometimes the conquest can be anti-climatic as there are starfishes here too, LOL)

As always YMMV, but I prefer the laid back approach in Cebu

I'd suggest you give it a try if for no other reason then to say: "Been there, done that, got the T-shirt"; and you never know, you may find the love (or at least lust) of your life here, hahaha.[/QUOTE]Good observation PJ in that it takes work and some can't spend the time to do that as they maybe in the country for 1-2 weeks and want to maximize all the pussy they see ant so AC it is as this is where you can get laid even if you look like Quasimodo LOL

Like PJ been AC done and want really go again unless I arrange a naughty party (which may happen with a girl or 2 that PJ knows) , other than that Cebu is better IMHO but I can spend the time looking, hunting etc so for me it is easier and more fun. As PJ knows I d0nt use the dating sites at all just contacts I have made and they always have cute friends that need more 'education' WR style.

But come to Cebu it is fun nice weather except for the rainy season and Cebuanas are very sexy IMHO also. Ask PJ he seems to be keeping his naughty self very busy LOL

[QUOTE=Wicked Roger; 1541176]Good observation PJ in that it takes work and some can't spend the time to do that as they maybe in the country for 1-2 weeks and want to maximize all the pussy they see ant so AC it is as this is where you can get laid even if you look like Quasimodo LOL

Like PJ been AC done and want really go again unless I arrange a naughty party (which may happen with a girl or 2 that PJ knows) , other than that Cebu is better IMHO but I can spend the time looking, hunting etc so for me it is easier and more fun. As PJ knows I d0nt use the dating sites at all just contacts I have made and they always have cute friends that need more 'education' WR style.

But come to Cebu it is fun nice weather except for the rainy season and Cebuanas are very sexy IMHO also. Ask PJ he seems to be keeping his naughty self very busy LOL[/QUOTE]Hey!

So ya'll convinced me and I booked my ticket yesterday! I'll be flying in tomorrow and I'm as excited as heck to be going to Paradise! LOL. I'll be staying at the Quest Hotel. I think I got a pretty good deal from the Quest Website and from all the research I did on here as well as Agoda.

If anyone wants to get a drink or hang out and teach me the ropes, I'll be in Cebu tomorrow!

Happy Huntings,

YG

[QUOTE=YG365; 1541376]Hey!

So ya'll convinced me and I booked my ticket yesterday! I'll be flying in tomorrow and I'm as excited as heck to be going to Paradise! LOL. I'll be staying at the Quest Hotel. I think I got a pretty good deal from the Quest Website and from all the research I did on here as well as Agoda.

If anyone wants to get a drink or hang out and teach me the ropes, I'll be in Cebu tomorrow!

Happy Huntings,

YG[/QUOTE]Thought I would throw out my 2pesos out there. I don't have the luxury of unlimited time in the PI and so I'm a 2 week millionaire, still and always learning the ropes.

I was there a year ago February and stayed at the Quest and enjoyed the hotel. I met a couple of guys at the pool and they showed me around to places I hadn't found on my prior 2 Cebu visits.

Besides the Mango Bars (full of drink sluts, watch out) there was a KTV / bar a couple of blocks from the Quest. This place had everything w / rooms in the back for Karaoke it catered to Asian (I think) but I felt like I had a chance to pull any girl. There were probably 50 + women w / many lookers. The takeout fee was 3, 500 if I remember right. The LDs are expensive but the girl stays w / you for an hour or so. How to get there?

When you leave the Quest like your going towards Ayala Mall just stay on the Quest side of the street and (to the right) walk down 2 blocks, it is definitely worth a visit, many ladies there. I got the number of a beauty but did not pursue because my new buds wanted to hang at Mango Sq (adjacent to Juliana's).

This was my first time sitting outdoors drinking brews and watching the FLs working the tables. It was fun and I ended up w / 2 MILFs for 1000p each but I got smashed on SML. The MILFs did a good job.

Ayala Mall is a good hunting ground and if you have a little game you can attract better talent. If not there are some obvious (a bit worn) FLs that will hunt you down. The trick is (I have learned) in the malls or probably anywhere involving semi pros is that you have to act fast. If they smile at you pounce on them fast, w / any conversation starter. You're walking by a little babe smiling at you, make a U-turn and set the hook.

Mango Bars I / e Vikings, Eric The Red, Red Lips, etc. Have some very nice talent but I have found that they are either Korean Only and / or drink sluts w / no intention of bfing w / you. I have been burned many times in these bars. I have barfined real hot ones only to have them quit on me at the hotel after 10 minutes in the room. I bring them back to the club for a refund and there is no manager. So I have been fucked (figuratively) more then a few times in these bars, watch yourself. There are some good women in these bars but they're not the drop dead lookers, they were my plan B.

I love Cebu for many reasons but next time it's on in Manila. I will be there in May and will work the babes in Manila for the first time. I am reading the forum now to get a feel for Manila action. It all sounds very good for hunting the lookers.

Oh....and for me AC is void of lookers, a lot of cute 6's but very few stunners are to be found in AC. mo

The pics..... my Mango Sq. MILFs, my Ayala Mall find (in black) w/ her friends in the Quest pool 2 hours after I met them., and plan B from ETReds. She was very sweet but not what I originally wanted.

Good Luck and have a ball.

[QUOTE=Socker; 1542617]Thought I would throw out my 2pesos out there. I don't have the luxury of unlimited time in the PI and so I'm a 2 week millionaire, still and always learning the ropes.

I was there a year ago February and stayed at the Quest and enjoyed the hotel. I met a couple of guys at the pool and they showed me around to places I hadn't found on my prior 2 Cebu visits.

Besides the Mango Bars (full of drink sluts, watch out) there was a KTV / bar a couple of blocks from the Quest. This place had everything w / rooms in the back for Karaoke it catered to Asian (I think) but I felt like I had a chance to pull any girl. There were probably 50 + women w / many lookers. The takeout fee was 3, 500 if I remember right. The LDs are expensive but the girl stays w / you for an hour or so. How to get there?

When you leave the Quest like your going towards Ayala Mall just stay on the Quest side of the street and (to the right) walk down 2 blocks, it is definitely worth a visit, many ladies there. I got the number of a beauty but did not pursue because my new buds wanted to hang at Mango Sq (adjacent to Juliana's)...[/QUOTE]Hey Socker,

So I believe the KTV you're talking about is called Infiniti. I was going to stop by but I decided to skip it and just head on over to the bikini bars. My favorite was Red Lips. After talking to a couple of girls, they wanted 4000P up front. I also believe it's 65P for a beer like SMP or SML and 150P for a lady drink (shot of tequila). After reading so many awful reports of girls quitting after being BFed from the bars, I thought it was too much of an risk to pull the trigger and so I left for the Disco. Managed to pull a girl, get drunk and do the deed back at my room. She didn't want money me but she wasn't going to turn down free money if it was handed to her and so she left with 2000P because I enjoyed her company, I wanted her to do something nice for herself and I totally thought that was still an bargain. The one regret of the night was not having any photos of her.

YG

[QUOTE=YG365; 1542758]Hey Socker,

So I believe the KTV you're talking about is called Infiniti. I was going to stop by but I decided to skip it and just head on over to the bikini bars. My favorite was Red Lips. After talking to a couple of girls, they wanted 4000P up front. I also believe it's 65P for a beer like SMP or SML and 150P for a lady drink (shot of tequila). After reading so many awful reports of girls quitting after being BFed from the bars, I thought it was too much of an risk to pull the trigger and so I left for the Disco. Managed to pull a girl, get drunk and do the deed back at my room. She didn't want money me but she wasn't going to turn down free money if it was handed to her and so she left with 2000P because I enjoyed her company, I wanted her to do something nice for herself and I totally thought that was still an bargain. The one regret of the night was not having any photos of her.

YG[/QUOTE]Sounds like you did well at the disco. I never do well at discos. I'm a fish out of water in them. I'm a hard rocker and I can't slam dance in those places, haha, jk.

In all the bars you have to pay the bf upfront and then the lady expects a tip, which should be spelled out beforehand. The 4000p bf is stiff and in Cebu there is no guarantee, so that stinks. You can tell when you're being played by drink sluts and conversely you can tell when you have a true blue lady who will keep her word. Drinking too much is not a good plan for a monger in these bars.

I also liked Red Lips for eye candy but the hot ones discriminate so it is a disappointment there. Man those fucking women are so sexy, but the whitey can't have them, it kills me.

Infinity is the name of that club and it does cater to asians but I felt I could compete in there. You walk in and turn a corner and it's a large room w / a stage and 20 ladies dancing. They rotate dancers as the "featured dancer" on the center stage. The stage is close and you can relax and watch these incredible creatures slowly twist and turn their bodies. The venue is great for this type of entertainment alone, never mind the bfing, the venue has great lighting and the women are very sexy. If anything it's a great place to have a few drinks and see some eye candy. This is the only KTV bar I've ever been in and it was fine when I went.

The other thing I like about Cebu is it is w / in a few hours of beautiful beaches and islands, Bantayan (4 hrs) , Bohol (2 hrs) , etc.

Good Hunting YG.

[QUOTE=Socker;1543065]In all the bars you have to pay the bf upfront and then the lady expects a tip, which should be spelled out beforehand. The 4000p bf is stiff and in Cebu there is no guarantee, so that stinks.[/QUOTE]This is not my experience in Cebu. The bf in Lone Star, for example, is 2700 php with 700 to the bar and 2000 to the girl (and she picks up the 2000 from the cashier before you leave the bar).

However, if you are known to the mamasan and have a good track record they just charge 700 to you and expect you to give the girl at least 2000 when she leaves you either next morning or later if only S/T.

I have never been hit with anything near a 4000 bf. I would steer clear of places like that.

[QUOTE=Red Kilt;1543359]This is not my experience in Cebu. I have never been hit with anything near a 4000 bf. I would steer clear of places like that.[/QUOTE]Arena that caters for the Japanese and Korean market has high bar fines but you can find some of the girls (well used to) after hours around Mango in the clubs there for a much more reasonable contribution to their school fund.

[QUOTE=Red Kilt; 1543359]This is not my experience in Cebu. The bf in Lone Star, for example, is 2700 php with 700 to the bar and 2000 to the girl (and she picks up the 2000 from the cashier before you leave the bar).

However, if you are known to the mamasan and have a good track record they just charge 700 to you and expect you to give the girl at least 2000 when she leaves you either next morning or later if only S / T.

I have never been hit with anything near a 4000 bf. I would steer clear of places like that.[/QUOTE]I have always heard The Lone Star is a great bar but has average talent and that's why I have never walked over there. The price and attitude there is probably much better I take it. Next time I will make sure to hit it and see for myself. From my meager Cebu experience some of the ladies at Red Lips, Vikings, Infinity, etc. Are way better looking than what I've seen in AC.

Guys that are living / working in the PI have the luxury of waiting the hot ones out. Guys on a 2 week vacation either pay the asking price (or close to it) or do w / out and compromise w / lesser talent.

I have a 10 day trip coming up (a short one) and will not stop by Cebu this time. I am hoping Manila will be a little more user friendly than Cebu. I will scour the Manila forum for a good game plan.

Cheers.

Hey guys,

While in Cebu, Pip Jaeger mentioned to me a bar full of free lancers near all the bikini bars and it just so happens, I found it randomly while in my taxi. I basically jumped into a taxi with my girl outside of Planet X and asked him to take me to J's Ave. He needed to do a U turn, so he pulled in the gas station that's like 15 yards away and did it the legal way. While waiting at the light, I just so happened to notice a bar packed with girls and maybe 2 expats in there hanging out. I didn't get a chance to visit this establishment but perhaps on my next trip.

YG

[QUOTE=YG365; 1544161]Hey guys,

While in Cebu, Pip Jaeger mentioned to me a bar full of free lancers near all the bikini bars and it just so happens, I found it randomly while in my taxi. I basically jumped into a taxi with my girl outside of Planet X and asked him to take me to J's Ave. He needed to do a U turn, so he pulled in the gas station that's like 15 yards away and did it the legal way. While waiting at the light, I just so happened to notice a bar packed with girls and maybe 2 expats in there hanging out. I didn't get a chance to visit this establishment but perhaps on my next trip.

YG[/QUOTE]Geckos has been a around for some time and I would go there to hang out at times even though I don't drink. At times a few vest (singlet) wearing (mainly American or British) expats turn up with their tattoos and drink one bottle of beer all night but it is still IMHO an interesting place to visit.

Good to see you YG and look forward to the next time. The lady was upset she was on her period so you definitely have a date on your return.

I owned a biz in Cebu from '05 to '07 and the main reasons the bars went downhill is the influx of Koreans paying too much. Also, I think some of the Koreans make more likely boyfriends / husbands than us guys from the West. I had 2 or 3 girlfriends that were bargirls who wanted more and were the greatest short-term GFs in my life (1-4 months). Some of the girls get into bars because they love sex (in addition to $$$ or Green Cards) but they are a minority.

I was back in 2012 for 4 months and it just wasn't as bad as most of these reports. BUT you have to realize that the influx of Japanese and Koreans have made Western guys lower on the totem pole. Just do a lot of bar hopping on Mango and as of 2 years ago there's plenty of great looking girls. Have some fun talking to the GROs if you have good game and are friendly to the girls. Good game and being 1/2 decent looking is what will get you what you want. If you don't have it, Cebu is not the best place. Are you funny, a gentleman (treat bar girls with some respect) , and look 1/2 decent? Bar girls will talk to you and you can figure out what's what.

As for internet dating and Ayala pick-ups, I would warn more strongly than others that this takes a LOT of time. Sure the pay-off is worth it. But be ready for a lot of let-down. I was basically looking for a short-term. 1-2 month GF when I did this. I had some amazing experiences but a lot of duds. Do all your "messaging" for this BEFORE you go. Schedule many, many 1st dates a day. On the second date, the right ones you like may be good to go if you meet near your hotel, but it's only 1 in 5 are right, so do a LOT of first dates and be thick skinned but a gentleman.

Many, many of these girls deal with sh! T you can't imagine (date them and you'd see). It's a 3rd world country. Be respectful and think about how twisted it is to inflict sorrow on someone that already MIGHT have a shit life.

There is great hobby in the Cebu, but takes more time to figure out than for example Angeles.

[QUOTE=Wicked Roger; 1544339]Geckos has been a around for some time and I would go there to hang out at times even though I don't drink. At times a few vest (singlet) wearing (mainly American or British) expats turn up with their tattoos and drink one bottle of beer all night but it is still IMHO an interesting place to visit.

Good to see you YG and look forward to the next time. The lady was upset she was on her period so you definitely have a date on your return.[/QUOTE]Hey Wicked!

It was very nice meeting you, Pip and the other guys as well! We all have different hunting styles but in the end, same outcome LOL.

Safe huntings,

YG

[QUOTE=Wander Luster; 1544410]I owned a biz in Cebu from '05 to '07 and the main reasons the bars went downhill is the influx of Koreans paying too much. Also, I think some of the Koreans make more likely boyfriends / husbands than us guys from the West. I had 2 or 3 girlfriends that were bargirls who wanted more and were the greatest short-term GFs in my life (1-4 months). Some of the girls get into bars because they love sex (in addition to $$$ or Green Cards) but they are a minority...[/QUOTE]I actually had my best experience with a girl from one of them bikini bars and no, I didn't donate 4000 pesos LOL. On my short Vaca, I mostly spent it picking up girls from J's Ave. I don't think I donated more than 2000P ever? Most of them also slept over and 2 of them wanted to fuck all night! I remember telling one of the girls after my 2nd pop "The only way I'm going to be able to go a 3rd round was to stick into the forbidden hole" and that quickly ended the night with us going to sleep LOL.

I didn't really mess around with DIA and I don't think I ever will. I just can't get the hang of it, nor do I have the time to build relationships like most of you guys. Maybe if I ever decide to live in the Philippines then I'll give DIA a shot.

YG

[QUOTE=Wander Luster;1544410]Also, I think some of the Koreans make more likely boyfriends / husbands than us guys from the West.[/QUOTE]Will Koreans marry a Filipina?

[QUOTE=David_33;1544516]Will Koreans marry a Filipina?[/QUOTE]Plenty have done and do including my ex g / f now married to a Korean. And the aging gents in Japan just love it as a take away home, from a few parties I have been at to wish the gir la bon voyage, with there Filipino kid. We all look for company s / t or LT some just like very long time

[QUOTE=David_33;1544516]Will Koreans marry a Filipina?[/QUOTE]I've seen a few. When all the best looking guys in Korea marrying the best looking girls, what's the average and below average Korean Male going to do? I would rather take a 9 or 10 Filipina over a 4 and under Korean gal.

Shoot, I'd probably take that deal right now if the right gal came along.

[QUOTE=David_33;1544516]Will Koreans marry a Filipina?[/QUOTE]According to a couple of girls.

"they have smaller dicks, don't want to fuck all day and night, come fast and really just want someone pretty on their arms. Yes they smell kimchi at times but they drink lots so drunk and don't want to fuck and have cash"

So that is one view of life I suppose.

I was referring to the Korean (and Japanese) racism and general disdain for the Filipinos. Not sure how a Filipina would be accepted back in Korea, IF they bring them back.

[QUOTE=Wicked Roger; 1544339]Geckos has been a around for some time and I would go there to hang out at times even though I don't drink. At times a few vest (singlet) wearing (mainly American or British) expats turn up with their tattoos and drink one bottle of beer all night but it is still IMHO an interesting place to visit.

Good to see you YG and look forward to the next time. The lady was upset she was on her period so you definitely have a date on your return.[/QUOTE]WR's review of El Gecko is spot on. I stopped going there a long time ago because of the clientele. Expats who I wouldn't make friends with outside the Philippines so why mingle and get hit up weekly with 'hey man I just need 25000p to cover the security deposit on my new place, can I borrow it from you man, just for a month until my (insert whatever form of Government pension here) cheque comes in." Had two chats there that ended up with a request for 'help'.

[QUOTE=David_33;1544576]I was referring to the Korean (and Japanese) racism and general disdain for the Filipinos. Not sure how a Filipina would be accepted back in Korea, IF they bring them back.[/QUOTE]Good point but I also know some who live in those countries. Many stay in the Philippines and thus enjoy the benefits of their own country with the income of the husband and the additional pin money they get from meeting us. I know one just like that and she is happy as hubby provides but she really likes the western sausage LOL.

ISG needs a "Like" button for posts like these.

[QUOTE=Wicked Roger;1544698]Good point but I also know some who live in those countries. Many stay in the Philippines and thus enjoy the benefits of their own country with the income of the husband and the additional pin money they get from meeting us. I know one just like that and she is happy as hubby provides but she really likes the western sausage LOL.[/QUOTE]

Filipinas thrive over here. Often they come back with their new Korean husband, get citizenship and then divorce. Thanks to their visa status they can get jobs teaching English, and they make enough cash that they can then shop for a new husband that they actually want to marry. Lots of Filipinas over here who are newly single and ready to mingle. Happy days.

There are also a lot of them who work in the factories here, a large community actually in areas like Pusan and Ansan. Koreans are much less racist toward attractive women of any race, colour or creed.

[QUOTE=David_33;1544576]I was referring to the Korean (and Japanese) racism and general disdain for the Filipinos. Not sure how a Filipina would be accepted back in Korea, IF they bring them back.[/QUOTE]

somebody may have already mentioned a few of these things.

pussycats has changed it's name once again and apparently has new ownership. unfortunately they seem to have revived some of the practices of the older failed bars. lots of chubby dancers.

dimples. i bought a skinny girl a drink. she was very affectionate, but couldn't speak much english. one of the other ladies was helping with translation a bit so i bought here a drink. i paid the barfine which i think was 3, 200. as i' waiting for skinny minnie to dress the other gal nags me for some kind of tip. wtf, i already had bought her a drink. but worse was in store for me that evening as skinny was a horrible bed partner. she must have asked about three times,"finished?". i finally got fed up with her and ordered her out. ever the gentleman, i got dressed to speed up her departure thru the lobby and past security. she seemed to think i was going back to the bar to complain. she started crying and apologizing. what a waste of money.

gals at maverick / silver dollar are sometimes not the best looking, but they put in some effort without too much drink pressure. on a recent visit i spent some time with two in the bar. one was a real pro and the other a "virgin". i bought the pair drinks and the pro suggest we move to the back sofa,"because it's too cold here". we get to the sofa and i think it's colder. i guess she thought so too because she reached her are up thru the bottom of my plaid short pants and quick worked me up to a full hard on. her hand must have warmed up nicely. she then cajoled "virg" to get a grip on things as well.

apparently mavericks is to close in may. x

Thanks YG, I didn't see Pip's earlier report and since I'd been to Geckos many times in the past I didn't think much about your post. Wow, I wish I had been paying better attention. The place has changed dramatically.

There is a new owner and a completely new format. There is no barfine, but there are plenty of hostesses, some quite attractive, who will chat with you over drinks. I've met one outside of work hours for some more intimate "chat". WHen I balked at the proposed 2000 "taxi fare", she quickly suggested a more reasonable number.

Keep a look out for the adorable sisters. One who promised to text me after work, but didn't. Last night there was a live band doing old rock and even an old Nate K Cole classic. They were pretty good. There weren't many customers which was good for me, but maybe not so good for the longevity of the bar. But all the bars seem very quiet this week.

One early morning in front of J Ave I bumped into a gal I first met six years ago. She isn't as fresh as she used to be, but still has plenty of bounce in her breasts, not to mention naughtiness in her loins. Unfortunately, her English hasn't improved much. It gets annoying when you have to repeat everything you say, and half of what you say is misunderstood.

The online sites have been pretty good this trip. So far three out of four were ready for fun on the first date. All regular gals, as far as I can tell. The lone holdout was a cute college girl who suggested we go island hopping. But after the second date we both seemed to lose interest.

X.

[QUOTE=YG365; 1544161]Hey guys,

While in Cebu, Pip Jaeger mentioned to me a bar full of free lancers near all the bikini bars and it just so happens, I found it randomly while in my taxi. I basically jumped into a taxi with my girl outside of Planet X and asked him to take me to J's Ave. He needed to do a U turn, so he pulled in the gas station that's like 15 yards away and did it the legal way. While waiting at the light, I just so happened to notice a bar packed with girls and maybe 2 expats in there hanging out. I didn't get a chance to visit this establishment but perhaps on my next trip.

YG[/QUOTE]

miss j and i had agreed to visit a local mango street girlie bar, because she had never been to one before, and she was interested to find out what they are about. a neighbour of hers worked in one of the bars opposite to vikings, so we went there, saturday night, about 9pm.

it is an ordinary foreigner style bar, nothing unusual. 2 girls dancing, a few rep001tered about, only a few customers. my eye was caught by one of the dancers, tall slim. so i called her over, bought her a drink, and asked her if she was interested to be a model for me. she agreed. compared with her salary of 175 pesos per day, my rate was irresistible.

j had a good chat with her friends, and we left. j suggested that we go to another bar in mandaue called sk2. 10 mins by taxi.

it was pretty much the same as curacha in subic.

medium size filipino bar. large central stage, raised, good lighting, a dj who seemed to be controlling things. it is now 11.30.

there are maybe 50 girls here, and maybe 6 vip rooms. various girls coming and going into the rooms.

girls danced singly, some naked, some in various levels of dress. all were good, well trained, far better than in foreigner bars. j was fascinated at naked dancers, even though our models were getting nude.

there were two performances of pairs of dancers. one was a lesbian show, which was obviously unusual, because the other girls in the bar went wild, shouting, screaming. they started dressed, and slowly stripped, sometimes taking clothes off each other. when one lay on her back on the bar, and the other opened her legs wide up, the place erupted, then she went down for daty on the other, the place went bananas, with the girls shouting and cheering, and getting as close as they could to watch. it looked pretty real to me, maybe the girls really were lesbians, or bi. wow. miss j was pretty turned on by all of this. the actual show may have lasted for 10 mins.

the second was also a pair of girls, starting in bikinis and negligees. they slowly began to strip, and then began to pour molten wax over each other from some candles. the guys were fascinated, intent. then the girls got up and took a candle each into the audience. each found a suitable guy who poured more wax on them.

then one of the girls pulled her guy up onto the stage, a fairly handsome young guy. they laid him on his back on the floor, pulled off his shirt.

one gal got naked, sat at his head and put his head onto her naked pussy. the other got naked, and straddled him, across his crutch, grinding him cowgirl. then she opened up his belt and jeans, to get things a bit freer.

the first girl pushed him up and put his hands onto the others boobs for a feel up, then gave him a candle, so that he was pouring molten wax onto the grinders pussy. the place was roaring. who knows what was going happen next. then the dj cut the music and the lights. end of the show. i guess that the young guy's jeans were a bit of a mess.

it was a good night.

the entrance fee was 200 for me. 100 for miss j. beers were 100 each. well worth it, great value for money.

Nice report Gangles!

SK2 was formerly known as Club Harem and they have done a great job with the remodeling. Love this club as it is open late and the girls have great attitudes. Unfortunately, most guys here are only interested in clubs that are located on Mango Avenue!

[QUOTE=X Man;1546967]Apparently Mavericks is to close in May. X[/QUOTE]Again? Geez that is the only place I know that is open in the afternoon. What do I do now? I guess it will be DIA time again (. V.)

[QUOTE=D Cups;1555100]Again? Geez that is the only place I know that is open in the afternoon. What do I do now? I guess it will be DIA time again (. V.)[/QUOTE]I believe a new venue has already been sourced for the replacement.

Tuesday night, and Miss J wanted to go back to SK2. I was amenable, so off we went.

This was about 10pm.

What a difference, not many customers, the dancers not as experienced, so I was pretty well bored quite soon.

However, the one striking feature was that all of the dancers were tall and slim, with pretty faces. The kind of woman that you would take to a formal dinner as eye candy. Kind of a repeat of Julia Roberts in Pretty Woman.

G

[QUOTE=Gangles; 1554693]Miss J suggested that we go to another bar in Mandaue called SK2. 10 mins by taxi.

Medium size Filipino bar. Large central stage, raised, good lighting, a DJ who seemed to be controlling things. There are maybe 50 girls here, and maybe 6 VIP rooms. Various girls coming and going into the rooms.

Girls danced singly, some naked, some in various levels of dress. All were good, well trained, far better than in foreigner bars.

SNIP.

One gal got naked, sat at his head and put his head onto her naked pussy. The other got naked, and straddled him, across his crutch, grinding him cowgirl. Then she opened up his belt and jeans, to get things a bit freer.

The entrance fee was 200 for me. 100 for miss J. Beers were 100 each. Well worth it, great value for money.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Gangles; 1555864]Tuesday night, and Miss J wanted to go back to SK2. I was amenable, so off we went.

This was about 10pm. What a difference, not many customers, the dancers not as experienced, so I was pretty well bored quite soon. However, the one striking feature was that all of the dancers were tall and slim, with pretty faces. The kind of woman that you would take to a formal dinner as eye candy. Kind of a repeat of Julia Roberts in Pretty Woman.[/QUOTE]Great reports G, had to go and check the place out for myself. Unfortunately the night I was there it was slow and in addition a Korean took about 15 of the hottest girls out of the club. Even so, most of those remaining were still pretty good looking and thin; one was a bit chubby, but she was the best dancer there. She danced completely naked and was doing gymnastics on the stage; quite good and quite a show. Despite signs saying "No Bar Fines" you can take a girl out on a "date"; pretty high cost though = 4, 000p. It's still worth going for the shows, some girls will get completely naked, some partially and others won't, most are terrific dancers, but a couple seemed more interested in looking at themselves in the mirrors and doing the Pinay shuffle. Though I did not witness a lesbian show, the few girls there did get a little wild, so don't be surprised if you leave there with your breath smelling like pussy.

One thing that did surprise me a bit was that the servers were mostly males, I expected scantily clad girls who would pressure me to buy ladies drinks. Perhaps that happens if you take a lady into one of the private VIP rooms (maybe they even have a drink minimum to go with the room charge; sorry I didn't inquire about either)

SK2 is located in Mandaue on the national highway (Lopez Jaena St) a little over half a klick north of the Hernan Cortes St / M. Logarta Ave flyover (left side if you're going north). The stage is ringed by 8 private VIP rooms which have comfortable sofas and are set up for Karaoke, but there's plenty of seating around the stage. Prices are as G quoted and mixed drinks run 150p (they a full menu of various local and imported liquors; available by the glass or bottle).

Search for it on Google maps (note: it's still listed there as Club Harem and most taxi drivers may still know it as that too). I tried to paste the link, but the software here keeps truncating it and the link is then wrong.

I have been RTFF a lot over the last few weeks.

I keep hearing that Cebu is more expensive than AC.

But I don't see it.

A hot girl BF is 3000 in either city no?

It just seems like you can play with girls accustomed to Koreans for 6000 if you want in Cebu.

Or find a fugly for 1000 in AC.

Is the selection much better in AC, I don't need that many girls. Just young hot ones LOL.

Cheers

I kinda guess it is taboo to talk about this cause most western guys are protective against any negative comments that might come their way.

Just saying El Gecko as a place I won't sit down in anymore and as another guy pointed out here, those guys in there are the typical "borrow"/ steal. So also as I had the experience with my first beer there, the girl in the bar probably thought I was one of those typical alcohol-likers going there, when she grabbed it and replaced it with an empty bottle. I just wiggled my head a little and left quickly after. Opposite to the thieves in the bar I paid full price for that 1/4th of a bottled beer I drank.

[QUOTE=Denergod;1582403]I kinda guess it is taboo to talk about this cause most western guys are protective against any negative comments that might come their way.

Just saying El Gecko as a place I won't sit down in anymore and as another guy pointed out here, those guys in there are the typical "borrow"/ steal. So also as I had the experience with my first beer there, the girl in the bar probably thought I was one of those typical alcohol-likers going there, when she grabbed it and replaced it with an empty bottle. I just wiggled my head a little and left quickly after. Opposite to the thieves in the bar I paid full price for that 1/4th of a bottled beer I drank.[/QUOTE]DG,

What exactly happened? You were drinking a beer and the barmaid took the bottle out of your hand and gave you an empty one? Was your bottle on the counter / table unattended? Did your beer come with a foam beer holder and did you remove the holder? That's usually is a sign you want another beer. Did you pay for your beer when you ordered or did you start a tab?

Sorry maybe it's me but I'm a little lost. Can you explain in more detail what happened.

I've visited Gecko (across from Ni Christo church) a few times and liked the place. What is a going rate for a girl there? Would 1,500 P for a few hours be reasonable? Thanks.

[QUOTE=Traffic777;1604522]I've visited Gecko (across from Ni Christo church) a few times and liked the place. What is a going rate for a girl there? Would 1,500 P for a few hours be reasonable? Thanks.[/QUOTE]Any girls that are hanging out there are freelancers for the most part because the place is an expat establishment. YMMV but I would think that 1500 php would be on the high end for a few hours of fun but is the going rate for gringos.

[QUOTE=BukoMax;1604691]Any girls that are hanging out there are freelancers for the most part because the place is an expat establishment. YMMV but I would think that 1500 php would be on the high end for a few hours of fun but is the going rate for gringos.[/QUOTE]Thank you for your reply. I don't think they are freelancers be / see they are tending bar, bringing you drinks, etc. So, there is no barfine in Gecko, it's up to the customer and a girl to negotiate fair price?

[QUOTE=Traffic777;1605737]Thank you for your reply. I don't think they are freelancers be / see they are tending bar, bringing you drinks, etc. So, there is no barfine in Gecko, it's up to the customer and a girl to negotiate fair price?[/QUOTE]I did one of the bartenders out of there but actually met her on DIA. If you cut a deal, 1000 p would probably.

Do it. Don't pay 1500 p. That's a Manila rate. Cebu is always cheaper.

Plus, girls around National Book Store (2 blocks away) can go for 700 p.

Enjoy

[QUOTE=Cheapy;1605954]I did one of the bartenders out of there but actually met her on DIA. If you cut a deal, 1000 p would probably.

Do it. Don't pay 1500 p. That's a Manila rate. Cebu is always cheaper.

Plus, girls around National Book Store (2 blocks away) can go for 700 p.

Enjoy[/QUOTE]Thanks! Anything under 1500 P is fine with me. As long as it's nothing crazy like in those clubs around there where barfine is 2000-5000.

[QUOTE=Traffic777;1605737]Thank you for your reply. I don't think they are freelancers be / see they are tending bar, bringing you drinks, etc. So, there is no barfine in Gecko, it's up to the customer and a girl to negotiate fair price?[/QUOTE]Umm, I hate to burst your bubble, but not every Filipina that works in a bar is willing or able to be barfined. Some just work there di ba. So just because a Filipina works in a bar does not in any way make her a GRO, and when it comes right down to it even if she is a GRO they still have the choice to go with a customer or refuse.

As far as El Gecko is concerned, they used to have regular Filipina bar staff, then for awhile the bar had GRO's that could be barfined. The morality crackdown on CC area bikini bars a few years ago (and all bars are still monitored closely) convinced the bar to end official GRO's status in the bar. I agree with Matt er Rick about the freelancer thing. Some of the GRO's still hang around the bar, but most will only go with customers that are known. It never hurts to ask a Filipina that works there if she will go with you, because you never know. Just be respectful.

Personally I would sit at the bar and start a conversation with one of the expat guys and ask him what's the deal with the Filipinas if you're not sure. IMO do not mention barfines! Just ask if the staff can be dated / taken out of the bar. Local PNP have been targeting bars where the staff agrees to be barfined. Some NGO's are using foreigners to enter bars with hidden cameras to trick GRO's and bar staff into discussing barfines and any promised sexual escapades.

So just be cool and you can figure out if the Filipina you like can be yours, if not go back to the hotel and rub one out, or jump on DIA and find someone else.

[QUOTE=Cheapy;1605954]I did one of the bartenders out of there but actually met her on DIA. If you cut a deal, 1000 p would probably.

Do it. Don't pay 1500 p. That's a Manila rate. Cebu is always cheaper.

Plus, girls around National Book Store (2 blocks away) can go for 700 p.

Enjoy[/QUOTE]They are nasty shabu heads for the most part! Stay away from them unless you love to root around the bottom of the barrel, get brought up on charges or set up for a scam payday.

IMO a lot better quality can be found over at Mango Square for one jump in pay grade.

[QUOTE=StrokerAce88;1606117]They are nasty shabu heads for the most part! Stay away from them unless you love to root around the bottom of the barrel, get brought up on charges or set up for a scam payday.

IMO a lot better quality can be found over at Mango Square for one jump in pay grade.[/QUOTE]But his handle suggests he likes that pay grade. Many (if not all) of those Cheapy FRs about I would not touch with a tungsten tipped barge pole. Shabu heads, scammers etc. For sure you may end up losing something or catching a dose or both.

As for prices those quoted are low, more trending upwards and why do guys who spend thousands to get her then spend so little. If you hang around Ayala a few FLs there will do you for those prices but having seen who they go with I again would not get near them.

Paying higher tends to mean better quality, repeats (IMHO) and what is a few extra dollars when some have spent a lot to get there?

I went to Mango Square for the first time last night around 10 pm. I guess it was a little early, not to many WG. Pretty soon many girls around but it was hard to tell WG from civvies going to the night clubs. I sat down at the first bar on the left with out door seating. Had a beer and let the waiter do the brokering for me. He brought up a few girls and I picked one out for 3000 LT. At least I had some assurance she was known around there and not just any FL walking around. Looks 7. 5 service 9. The WG tip the waiters a fee. Great system! Just sit and have a beer and he brings them to you.

Chuckle. She was a well known freelancer, not just any FL. I've sat in those seats myself, but it was a bit later and no waiter was available (nor necessary) to finalize my indiscretions. I would suggest 2 k (or less) as a final nego target, but it depends on the day, the lady and the westerly winds.

[QUOTE=Dg8787;1612153]I went to Mango Square for the first time last night around 10 pm. I guess it was a little early, not to many WG. Pretty soon many girls around but it was hard to tell WG from civvies going to the night clubs. I sat down at the first bar on the left with out door seating. Had a beer and let the waiter do the brokering for me. He brought up a few girls and I picked one out for 3000 LT. At least I had some assurance she was known around there and not just any FL walking around. Looks 7. 5 service 9. The WG tip the waiters a fee. Great system! Just sit and have a beer and he brings them to you.[/QUOTE]

The closest you get to quality in Cebu or anywhere in Phils is a college educated upperclass GFE. Just because you pay more for a hooker does not mean you will not get scammed or STDs. Any monger who thinks otherwise is quite naive.

Anybody who lives in or knows Cebu well, will say the same.

[QUOTE=WickedRoger;1606131]But his handle suggests he likes that pay grade. Many (if not all) of those Cheapy FRs about I would not touch with a tungsten tipped barge pole. Shabu heads, scammers etc. For sure you may end up losing something or catching a dose or both.

As for prices those quoted are low, more trending upwards and why do guys who spend thousands to get her then spend so little. If you hang around Ayala a few FLs there will do you for those prices but having seen who they go with I again would not get near them.

Paying higher tends to mean better quality, repeats (IMHO) and what is a few extra dollars when some have spent a lot to get there?[/QUOTE]

Anyone been to the Silver Dollar lately? Any busty ones thre? I've had some good finds there and I like that it is open early afternoon. Thanks for any replies. I'll be in Cebu City 8 - 10 Nov in case anyone wants to meet up for some San Migs and swap stories. Thanks.

The Cups.

"Spanning the globe for the world's largest bangable boobs".

[QUOTE=DCups;1629927]Anyone been to the Silver Dollar lately? Any busty ones thre? I've had some good finds there and I like that it is open early afternoon. Thanks for any replies. I'll be in Cebu City 8 - 10 Nov in case anyone wants to meet up for some San Migs and swap stories. Thanks.

The Cups.

"Spanning the globe for the world's largest bangable boobs".[/QUOTE]Think I read a few months ago that Silver Dollar closed. Haven't heard if they re-opened with a new owner / leasee, but I already plan to check it out when I arrive (shortly before you).

[QUOTE=PipJaeger;1630301]Think I read a few months ago that Silver Dollar closed. Haven't heard if they re-opened with a new owner / leasee, but I already plan to check it out when I arrive (shortly before you).[/QUOTE]Rats. Hopefully they reopened. Man, they used to have short time right there in the back room.

Maverick was closed in August14 when I stopped by and I doubt that there will ever be another bar there. As for the s / t room, that disappeared a long time ago. Has anyone been to Liza's F. Pub in Mandaue lately?

Also, it's been a long time since anyone reported about things on Mactan. I'm pretty sure the Mermaid GoGo bar is still there. I've heard about some other "regular" bars, that may be of interest. I've often thought that MEPX creates a mother load of young women living in boarding houses. Several times I had early flights out and noticed large groups of young women waiting for jeepneys. It never fails to kick in the early onset of PP depression. LOL.

[QUOTE=DCups;1630306]Rats. Hopefully they reopened. Man, they used to have short time right there in the back room.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=XMan;1630335]Maverick was closed in August14 when I stopped by and I doubt that there will ever be another bar there. As for the s / t room, that disappeared a long time ago. Has anyone been to Liza's F. Pub in Mandaue lately?

Also, it's been a long time since anyone reported about things on Mactan. I'm pretty sure the Mermaid GoGo bar is still there. I've heard about some other "regular" bars, that may be of interest. I've often thought that MEPX creates a mother load of young women living in boarding houses. Several times I had early flights out and noticed large groups of young women waiting for jeepneys. It never fails to kick in the early onset of PP depression. LOL.[/QUOTE]Thanks, X. I haven't been to either of those places. I guess it will be mostly DIAs and mall trolling for trollups then. Hopefully I can get a DIA cutie to accompany me to the exquisite Bodo's Bamboo Bar in Alcoy, South Cebu. Man, I love that place but it is definitely BYO.

[QUOTE=DCups;1629927]Anyone been to the Silver Dollar lately? Any busty ones thre? I've had some good finds there and I like that it is open early afternoon. Thanks for any replies. I'll be in Cebu City 8 - 10 Nov in case anyone wants to meet up for some San Migs and swap stories. Thanks.

The Cups.

"Spanning the globe for the world's largest bangable boobs".[/QUOTE]THe silver Dollar is open at a new place behind harrolds hotel in the 1 way street same owner as maverick, opens 1 pm till 1 am with all the sports on as well.

There are some busty girls there but as usual each days different.

Good to know. Thanks, Paul.

[QUOTE=Paulr1950;1630459]THe silver Dollar is open at a new place behind harrolds hotel in the 1 way street same owner as maverick, opens 1 pm till 1 am with all the sports on as well.

There are some busty girls there but as usual each days different.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=Paulr1950;1630459]THe silver Dollar is open at a new place behind harrolds hotel in the 1 way street same owner as maverick, opens 1 pm till 1 am with all the sports on as well.

There are some busty girls there but as usual each days different.[/QUOTE]Thanks, Paul, do you know if they show NFL American football games?

[QUOTE=DCups;1629927]Anyone been to the Silver Dollar lately? Any busty ones thre? I've had some good finds there and I like that it is open early afternoon. Thanks for any replies. I'll be in Cebu City 8 - 10 Nov in case anyone wants to meet up for some San Migs and swap stories. Thanks.

The Cups.

"Spanning the globe for the world's largest bangable boobs".[/QUOTE]Last week at about 8 pm, it was a good mix of chicas. A few big breasts for the Filipinas. . My recon uncovered the shift times of, 1 pm to 9 pm, second shift at 3 pm to 11 and third shift at 5 pm until 1 am, closing. So 5 pm to 9 pm had a full roster. !! There were 4 doable chicas while I was drinking my first beer which dropped in half as the first shift left at 9 pm, but another beer or 4 would have raised it up again. This was a Saturday? Maybe. The days kind of run together.

[QUOTE=Dirtdog;1633665]Last week at about 8 pm, it was a good mix of chicas. A few big breasts for the Filipinas. . My recon uncovered the shift times of, 1 pm to 9 pm, second shift at 3 pm to 11 and third shift at 5 pm until 1 am, closing. So 5 pm to 9 pm had a full roster. !! There were 4 doable chicas while I was drinking my first beer which dropped in half as the first shift left at 9 pm, but another beer or 4 would have raised it up again. This was a Saturday? Maybe. The days kind of run together.[/QUOTE]Ya, I know what you mean about the days running together. One time I missed my flight back to the states because I forgot what day it was! Thanks for the intel, Dirtdog!

Hi Paul,

I am going to Cebu soon, is the new location of silver dollar the Harolds hotel which is maybe 1 km from Ayala mall?

Thanks for your help.

Sam

[QUOTE=DCups;1633577]Thanks, Paul, do you know if they show NFL American football games?[/QUOTE]Stopped in the SD for a cold one and to do a bit of recon ya the. Think I may have found your future ex-wife there, hahaha. As I just had a session with another regular I didn't take her for a test ride though. I'll PM you with her name.

SD has multiple subscriptions to various sports channels. I was told if an NFL game is on one of them while you're there then they'll be glad to switch the channel on one of their TV's for you. And the, if you promise to behave (read that pay) they might even provide you with your own personal cheerleader (s) too, but BYOC (Bring Your Own Costume, LOL).

[QUOTE=PipJaeger;1634640]Stopped in the SD for a cold one and to do a bit of recon ya the. Think I may have found your future ex-wife there, hahaha. As I just had a session with another regular I didn't take her for a test ride though. I'll PM you with her name.

SD has multiple subscriptions to various sports channels. I was told if an NFL game is on one of them while you're there then they'll be glad to switch the channel on one of their TV's for you. And the, if you promise to behave (read that pay) they might even provide you with your own personal cheerleader (s) too, but BYOC (Bring Your Own Costume, LOL).[/QUOTE]Thanks for the recon, Pip. It would be nice to have a personal cheerleader for half-time entertainment! Cheers!

RIP DIA Catherine mamsang of the Lone star bar just heard it on fb. she seemed young ?

[QUOTE=PipJaeger;1634640]Think I may have found your future ex-wife there, hahaha. [/QUOTE]Hi Pip, thanks again for this. I just LOVE slim and stacked Filipinas. They make me go koo koo for cocoa puffs. If you happen to see her please tell her that I am very interested in meeting her and bar fining her 8 - 9 Nov. I am am also looking forward to meeting you at Mandarin or Silver Dollar. I'll probably be guzzling San Mig Lemons and promoting the Green Bay Packers with my wing man, another Yank, on his virgin trip to the PI. Cheers, mate!

Hello Sportsfans, where can I watch the Green Bay-Chicago game airing at 10 AM on Monday on Armed Forces Network (AFN)?

Silver Dollar doesn't open until 1 PM and the game will be over then. Much obliged for any replies.

[QUOTE=DCups;1641820]Hello Sportsfans, where can I watch the Green Bay-Chicago game airing at 10 AM on Monday on Armed Forces Network (AFN)?

Silver Dollar doesn't open until 1 PM and the game will be over then. Much obliged for any replies.[/QUOTE]Maybe try Marshalls Irish Pub, also see if Emerald Isle Pub (Talamban) is open then as it has shown various sports when I was there, and The Social a new place (4th floor) Ayala) may also be open. Ayala opens at 10 am but check it web site (see earlier FR).

Sorry our paths won't cross so hope you find what you are looking for.

[QUOTE=WickedRoger;1641996]Maybe try Marshalls Irish Pub, also see if Emerald Isle Pub (Talamban) is open then as it has shown various sports when I was there, and The Social a new place (4th floor) Ayala) may also be open. Ayala opens at 10 am but check it web site (see earlier FR).

Sorry our paths won't cross so hope you find what you are looking for.[/QUOTE]Thanks very much, WR! Safe travels! I go to Cebu this afternoon with wingman from US and we check out the chicks at the new Silver Dollar. Perhaps the infamous Pip will be there (smile)!

There is a sports bar on Ramos near Fuente called Time Out. Owned by an American, he has NFL game cast and large screen televisions. Not a bar fine bar, but a great place to watch American Football. You can watch any NFL game. He opens in the morning.

[QUOTE=WickedRoger;1641996]Maybe try Marshalls Irish Pub[/QUOTE]Marshalls (Mango Square area) doesn't open until noon. When I asked last night, a presumably Irish patron also said that even if they were open it would be blasphemous for them for play American football on the TV in an Irish pub, LOL.

[QUOTE=PipJaeger;1642298]Marshalls (Mango Square area) doesn't open until noon. When I asked last night, a presumably Irish patron also said that even if they were open it would be blasphemous for them for play American football on the TV in an Irish pub, LOL.[/QUOTE]Good point. I wonder if it also offers all day breakfast (Irish pun sort of!) as that really annoys me when I think breakfast is 6/7 am and they think 11 am but then again many pinays (including those I see) find it hard to wake before noon.

Good info LevDog.

[QUOTE=LevDog;1642286]There is a sports bar on Ramos near Fuente called Time Out. Owned by an American, he has NFL game cast and large screen televisions. Not a bar fine bar, but a great place to watch American Football. You can watch any NFL game. He opens in the morning.[/QUOTE]Much obliged LevDog. Feel free to join us Monday at 10 AM if you want! As for those Irish drunkards I would invite you too but no doubt you will all be unconscious hahahaha!

[QUOTE=DCups;1641820]Hello Sportsfans, where can I watch the Green Bay-Chicago game airing at 10 AM on Monday on Armed Forces Network (AFN)?

Silver Dollar doesn't open until 1 PM and the game will be over then. Much obliged for any replies.[/QUOTE]I guess that was D cups I met this morning watching the game. You guys have a good trip south.

Went to Viking and Planet X last week (I was in Red Lips before that which I mentioned in another report). The problem with these places is as soon as you sit down the oldest and ugliest girls come over right away to sit with you, then you have to find an excuse to get rid of them and after that no other girl will approach or even look at you! I mean you need a bit of time to look around and choose.

Anyway in Viking the mamasan eventually approached and I just could not see anyone I liked (some guy came and took the only one I thought was above average), so after a bit if chit chat I asked how much was the bar fine and she looked at me horrified and said we don't have bar fine what is bar fine. LOL. My SML was 75 p.

Planet X is bigger and they get 4 or 5 girls to dance on the stage at the same time, which is in the middle, a lot better arrangement. Some better looking girls in there, again once I said let me first have a look around, could not get the attention of anyone after that. My SML was 60 p and they said 200 for lady drink. I mean this is just such a skewed pricing, I guess they want to get punters in, in both places no more than 10 or so guys, rather empty.

In Patong for example you get 180 be for your drink and 200 be for lady drink, now that is expensive but psychologically you don't think twice buying a lady drink, as you say I am already paying a lot for my drinks, what is another one (almost the same). It is a lot cheaper here of course (pesos vs baht), but it is funny how you compare your drink price and lady drink and are put off!

There are quite a few more bars around there and I will probably pop in and have a beer and have a look at some point, for now stick to FL.

By the way I was in Tagbilaran city (and Paglao, Alona beach etc.) for a few days, there are a couple of lady bars there (in the city), just ask around, again 50 p for your drink and 250 p or 300 p for lady drink! Strange pricing? Bar fine around 2500 p to 3000 p. Ask around everyone knows where they are.

I was also propositioned on Alona beach a couple of times, very hardcore pro type, one said you can come to my place near here right now and do me for 1500, this was 11 am, I said I am on my way to an island, she said take me with you and we can do it on the beach!

Off to MO2 area tonight, tired of Mango scene a bit, so see what is like over there, one girl told me there are some FL hang around there too.

[QUOTE=Dirtdog;1642994]I guess that was D cups I met this morning watching the game. You guys have a good trip south.[/QUOTE]It sure was Dirtdog! Good meeting you! I really like that little Time Out sportsbar and would definitely go there again! So convenient, right up the street from Diplomat! Have you been there at night? Curious. Saw they have a band upstairs.

I was there a few years back and there were 3-4 clubs (the White Castle being one of them) and a nice massage parlor which offered full sex. Anyone knows if these places are still around?

Personally I would sit at the bar and start a conversation with one of the expat guys and ask him what's the deal with the Filipinas if you're not sure. IMO do not mention barfines! Just ask if the staff can be dated / taken out of the bar. Local PNP have been targeting bars where the staff agrees to be barfined. Some NGO's are using foreigners to enter bars with hidden cameras to trick GRO's and bar staff into discussing barfines and any promised sexual escapades.

Took you advice, and asked some people I know from other bars, his advice was he has not been able to get a take away from there, he is an expat. Sure there are lady drinks but that buys some company for a while. On the plus side a busy bar with live band and nice atmosphere, can't say I saw any FL a place to visit with a bring your own.

Hi Uzinuzin,

Can you tell me where in Tagbilaran I can find a lady bar?

I know there is a KTV bar in SQ mall but I don't know what goes on in the VIP room as I never rented one.

Cheers

[QUOTE=Uzinuzin;1657541]Went to Viking and Planet X last week (I was in Red Lips before that which I mentioned in another report). The problem with these places is as soon as you sit down the oldest and ugliest girls come over right away to sit with you, then you have to find an excuse to get rid of them and after that no other girl will approach or even look at you! I mean you need a bit of time to look around and choose.

Anyway in Viking the mamasan eventually approached and I just could not see anyone I liked (some guy came and took the only one I thought was above average), so after a bit if chit chat I asked how much was the bar fine and she looked at me horrified and said we don't have bar fine what is bar fine. LOL. My SML was 75 p.

Planet X is bigger and they get 4 or 5 girls to dance on the stage at the same time, which is in the middle, a lot better arrangement. Some better looking girls in there, again once I said let me first have a look around, could not get the attention of anyone after that. My SML was 60 p and they said 200 for lady drink. I mean this is just such a skewed pricing, I guess they want to get punters in, in both places no more than 10 or so guys, rather empty..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Iigorvich;1658408]I was there a few years back and there were 3-4 clubs (the White Castle being one of them) and a nice massage parlor which offered full sex. Anyone knows if these places are still around?[/QUOTE]No response to the above request. Is Mermaid Bar still operational on Mactan by the new bridge? Any other inhouse P4 P or FS massage options? Preferably near Shangrai-la.

[QUOTE=JackRabbit;1683680]No response to the above request. Is Mermaid Bar still operational on Mactan by the new bridge? Any other inhouse P4 P or FS massage options? Preferably near Shangrai-la.[/QUOTE]Frolic Bar is still open, I think. I was there in October or November last year. I did not take girl out, but they asked 1. 500 pesos for LT plus I think 600 ore 700 for the bar.

[QUOTE=JackRabbit;1683680]No response to the above request. Is Mermaid Bar still operational on Mactan by the new bridge? Any other inhouse P4 P or FS massage options? Preferably near Shangrai-la.[/QUOTE]Mermaid is still going strong. White Castle was raided last year but reopened the next day. There are a few smaller bars in downtown Lapu Lapu but probably not worth it. Also a few KTV's beyond Grand Gaisano mall. Nothing really out by Shangi-La in the form of gentlemen's clubs but I can suggest a few regular clubs/discos.

Checked it out tonight. Not bad lineup, had fun GFE experience in back by pool table for 1 lady drink. LOL. Barfine was 3500, asked punter to meet me outside later (had to exchange digits when no one was looking). Didn't even really discuss price for ST. Then power kicked out around 2 am, tried to sneak her out with no success. Was too tired to go wait in hotel (someone recommended Queensland?

Sticking for P4 P freelancers in Boracay. Much better choice & rate.

White Castle is closed now, all the girls are close by in the Star Club, formally Club 7.

[QUOTE=BukoMax;1683973]Mermaid is still going strong. White Castle was raided last year but reopened the next day. There are a few smaller bars in downtown Lapu Lapu but probably not worth it. Also a few KTV's beyond Grand Gaisano mall. Nothing really out by Shangi-La in the form of gentlemen's clubs but I can suggest a few regular clubs/discos.[/QUOTE]

Viking had loads of waitresses and about 20 girls. Not much atmosphere, the Koreans sit in the sofas and there was an American soldier drinking bottled water at the bar. He was speaking to a girl but really looked like an unhappy chap. Only about 7 customers. The dancing routine on stage was rather boring. I thought the quality of the girls was good like 7/8 in general. I had a fun time talking to the girls and the waitresses.

I didn't spend much time bar hopping this trip, but a few quick observations (as of March 2015).

BG's Bar is closed. The former Exotica / Pussycats / etc is now a sports bar. Same owner as Lone Star apparently. The upstairs VIP section is now a tattoo parlor, which is visible from the bar. The waitresses will chat you up, much like Geckos. The night I popped in there was a live band.

Any recent updates on Go Go bars in Cebu city? (preferably near the Radison). How common are SP's lurking around the mall nearby?

Much appreciated fellow punters.

1. Planet X, Twisted Sister, and other go go bars have minimal talent (not sure about before 12 pm). SP's want 3500 pesos++ Went back following day, only decent one I had chatted up night before was taken, so went with her friend. Big mistake. CBBJ, couldn't do anything, body completely different than on stage (all covered up when dancing). Had to finish myself off, playing with milky saddlebags LOL.

2. LIV club had a few SP's but were with their ST BFs. Mostly locals hanging out trying to be look hip.

3. J. Ave the best and only option. Do not waste your time anywhere else. Freelancers galore, young, hot and plentiful. Higher end asking for 3500++pesos but negotiations may be possible. Can't believe NO-ONE has posted this earlier. BAD ISG punters BAD.

[QUOTE=JackRabbit;1724853]1. Planet X, Twisted Sister, and other go go bars have minimal talent (not sure about before 12 pm). SP's want 3500 pesos++ Went back following day, only decent one I had chatted up night before was taken, so went with her friend. Big mistake. CBBJ, couldn't do anything, body completely different than on stage (all covered up when dancing). Had to finish myself off, playing with milky saddlebags LOL.[/QUOTE]First, good on 'ya for telling it like it is. You had a crap experience and you didn't sugar coat it, but IMO you could have reduced your chances of getting a starfish. You should have inquired about what services were on the table BEFORE taking her out of the bar. GRO's that cover up almost always do so to hide shit like bil-bil, sagging tits or messed up stomachs with loose skin due to childbirth. You should have sat in an area of the bar that has less eyes on you (if possible) and bought her a LD then asked to see her goods and played around with her.

I usually put a 50 php bill under my beer and tell her that will be her tip if I can have a peek here and a quick feel there. You can tell if she's really into you or your wallet. If she spends more time looking at the 50 php, you have your answer. If I liked what I saw (good body and willingness to allow me to play around some) I would give her the 50 php, buy her another LD and repeat with a 100 php bill. Usually this way the GRO realizes I'm not a cheap Charlie and let's her know I will take care of her if she takes care of me di ba. That and knowing the bartenders and mamasan on a first name basis and shooting the bull with the owner doesn't hurt either.

[QUOTE]2. LIV club had a few SP's but were with their ST BFs. Mostly locals hanging out trying to be look hip.[/QUOTE]Welcome to Asia mate. Regular nightclubs are usually a younger man's playground or you have to have some game to pick up if you are older. It used to be easier to pull regular non-pro Filipinas from clubs, but it's getting harder and harder for us older gents these days. Not to say it doesn't happen, it just takes a lot more effort and skill.

[QUOTE]3. J. Ave the best and only option. Do not waste your time anywhere else. Freelancers galore, young, hot and plentiful. Higher end asking for 3500++pesos but negotiations may be possible. Can't believe NO-ONE has posted this earlier. BAD ISG punters BAD.[/QUOTE]Umm you might want to retract that last statement. Seems all you needed to do was read some of the regular Cebu threads. For well over a decade Mango square has been discussed on this forum and others as being the best place to pick up a semi-pro looking for some pesos or a GRO that just got off work without a barfine. RTFF mate, it's not a secret, and the reason Mango square is not discussed to a great extent here is because this topic deals mostly with Cebu City and area bars that have a barfine or EWR system.

So BAD on you for not taking the time to RTFF. BTW 3500++php is a joke. They saw you were a fresh-off-the jet two week peso millionaire and priced things accordingly. I routinely pull doubles out of Julianas for a lot less than you were quoted.

[QUOTE=JackRabbit;1724853]3. J. Ave the best and only option. Do not waste your time anywhere else. Freelancers galore, young, hot and plentiful. Higher end asking for 3500++pesos but negotiations may be possible. Can't believe NO-ONE has posted this earlier. BAD ISG punters BAD.[/QUOTE]Only J Ave. That is boring and been around too long (and I tell that to the owners LOL) Try LIV Superclub, try MO2, try Monastery as there are lots of good alternatives, as many of the J Ave girls I know hang elsewhere as the Koreans are taking over J Ave in their view.

Surprised at lack of traffic, taxi drivers not trying to rip you off, lack of beggars however poverty is still obvious.

Stayed 2 nights at hotel pier Cuatro, which is opposite arena KTV, standard room 1200 php but only has 2 single beds, upgrade to a deluxe for 1600 php, includes free breakfast, no safe in rooms, good AC, reasonable shower.

Night 1, headed straight out front door into arena KTV, 200 php entry, 500 php for girl friend entry, didn't pay entry free but was able to have a look inside, looked huge, full of Koreans, girls looked quite high class.

Left and taxied to mango ave (65 php), I didn't take my notes, and find myself in a area full of disco night clubs, FL were obvious but had my girl friend with me so wasn't approached, but plenty of eye contact.

Taxied to voodoo as that was all I could remember from notes, however it was closed down, taxi then took us to to another KTV called infidels, drinks where 100 php, one dancer at a time, you pick a girl cost 500 php, she sits with you for an hour and gets 1 free tequila shot any more drink you have too pay. I picked a girl and she explained the ropes to me, she told me take out was 5000 php, VIP rooms where $1500 php for an hour but included some drinks can't recall how many drinks, surprised that venue was totally smoke free, left after 45 minutes and back to hotel.

Night 2, after a little research headed to Vikings go go bar, but it was closed and opens at 8 pm.

Over the road was a sports type bar called El geckos, with plenty of waitresses, drinks 65 php, LD 150 php great bar, pool table and live band after 8 pm, waitresses can not be barring, and get 40 php commission from drink only, had a blast with the girls so much fun, girls are more than willing to meet after hours.

Night 3. Headed back to El geckos at 7 pm, had a great time brought my 4 waitresses 2 bottles of tequila 3000 php each which totally Shit faced all 4 girls, 8. 30 pm headed to Vikings, again only 1 or 2 dancers at a time, line up was ok similar to AC bars, drinks 65 php, lady drinks 180 php, after 5 minutes got my GF to pick 4 girls for me, brought another tequila bottle for 4000 php, take outs where 3000 php.

Had a great time overall.

Cebu is great place and welcome change to AC.

Back in AC now.

[QUOTE=KiwiBoy;1730936]
Stayed 2 nights at hotel pier Cuatro, which is opposite arena KTV, standard room 1200 php but only has 2 single beds, upgrade to a deluxe for 1600 php, includes free breakfast, no safe in rooms, good AC, reasonable shower.[/QUOTE]Just curious why you picked that particular hotel, was it because it was located to Arena? For another 1000 php per night you could have stayed in a lot nicer place and that's not a dig at you, just a suggestion. Personally if you were only in CC for a few days I would pay the extra and upgrade. I know everyone's different with different needs and budgets so maybe you could post a review on the Cebu Hotel section.

[QUOTE]Night 1, headed straight out front door into arena KTV, 200 php entry, 500 php for girl friend entry, didn't pay entry free but was able to have a look inside, looked huge, full of Koreans, girls looked quite high class.[/QUOTE]After looking around Arena why didn't you stay, or rather what made you leave?

[QUOTE]Taxied to voodoo as that was all I could remember from notes, however it was closed down, taxi then took us to to another KTV called infidels[/QUOTE]Did you mean INFINITY KTV?

[QUOTE=KiwiBoy;1730936]Surprised at lack of traffic, taxi drivers not trying to rip you off, lack of beggars however poverty is still obvious.

Stayed 2 nights at hotel pier Cuatro, which is opposite arena KTV, standard room 1200 php but only has 2 single beds, upgrade to a deluxe for 1600 php, includes free breakfast, no safe in rooms, good AC, reasonable shower.

Night 1, headed straight out front door into arena KTV, 200 php entry, 500 php for girl friend entry, didn't pay entry free but was able to have a look inside, looked huge, full of Koreans, girls looked quite high class.

Left and taxied to mango ave (65 php), I didn't take my notes, and find myself in a area full of disco night clubs, FL were obvious but had my girl friend with me so wasn't approached, but plenty of eye contact.

Taxied to voodoo as that was all I could remember from notes, however it was closed down, taxi then took us to to another KTV called infidels, drinks where 100 php, one dancer at a time, you pick a girl cost 500 php, she sits with you for an hour and gets 1 free tequila shot any more drink you have too pay. I picked a girl and she explained the ropes to me, she told me take out was 5000 php, VIP rooms where $1500 php for an hour but included some drinks can't recall how many drinks, surprised that venue was totally smoke free, left after 45 minutes and back to hotel.

Night 2, after a little research headed to Vikings go go bar, but it was closed and opens at 8 pm.

Over the road was a sports type bar called El geckos, with plenty of waitresses, drinks 65 php, LD 150 php great bar, pool table and live band after 8 pm, waitresses can not be barring, and get 40 php commission from drink only, had a blast with the girls so much fun, girls are more than willing to meet after hours.

Night 3. Headed back to El geckos at 7 pm, had a great time brought my 4 waitresses 2 bottles of tequila 3000 php each which totally Shit faced all 4 girls, 8. 30 pm headed to Vikings, again only 1 or 2 dancers at a time, line up was ok similar to AC bars, drinks 65 php, lady drinks 180 php, after 5 minutes got my GF to pick 4 girls for me, brought another tequila bottle for 4000 php, take outs where 3000 php.

Had a great time overall.

Cebu is great place and welcome change to AC.

Back in AC now.[/QUOTE]Koreans are so entrenched in the bars in Cebu it seems that's all the girls and mamasan pay attention to. Koreans throw some many pesos at the girls and mamasan its crazy.

While everything you wrote is correct. Let me update you about about J Ave. Last time I was there, 1 girl for every 5 guys. It was even impossible to get an eye contact since non-English speaking Koreans filled the joint up and throwing money to FL crowd. So, I would skip J Ave for right now.

[QUOTE=JackRabbit;1724853]1. Planet X, Twisted Sister, and other go go bars have minimal talent (not sure about before 12 pm). SP's want 3500 pesos++ Went back following day, only decent one I had chatted up night before was taken, so went with her friend. Big mistake. CBBJ, couldn't do anything, body completely different than on stage (all covered up when dancing). Had to finish myself off, playing with milky saddlebags LOL.

2. LIV club had a few SP's but were with their ST BFs. Mostly locals hanging out trying to be look hip.

3. J. Ave the best and only option. Do not waste your time anywhere else. Freelancers galore, young, hot and plentiful. Higher end asking for 3500++pesos but negotiations may be possible. Can't believe NO-ONE has posted this earlier. BAD ISG punters BAD.[/QUOTE]

I've just had 5 days in Cebu and here's my take on things, my crazy experience.

Night 1.

Went to Mango Sq about 12.30 am and got shown up to Passions who had a great live band. A street girl wandered in so we had a boogie and a couple of beers. I told her several times I wasn't taking her (tired I'd been travelling for 24 hours) but she can drink with me. Went to couple of other discos, the one we were in closed and then she said she knew another one and headed down a side road.

I walked about 10 metres and it looked a bit dodgy so I said no. She said come to my room just down here for 1500, again I said no. She got agressive so I said I'd give her 500 to go away, she didn't want that either. A taxi came past so I stopped it and got in but she tried to jump in next to me, I kept pushing her away but she started pulling my shirt and scratching my neck. The driver just sat there, so I jumped out and walked away. Then I felt what turned out to be a rock hit my back, I turned around and another one hit my forehead, blood started pouring down my face.

By now I was back next to the security guard at the closed bar we had left and a guy came running up, told me he saw it all and I had to go with him to the police and report it. I decided it was time to get the fuck out of Dodge and head back to the hotel so jumped in a taxi. F'in horrible experience.

Nights 2 and 3.

I was gun shy now plus had a gash on my head so I spent time at Jazz and Bluz bar, saw some great muso / singers there. I did venture into Infinity and spotted one that could have got me. Took her into a VIP / karaoke room where the mamasan explained to spend an hour with her, no sex, was minimum 1500 incl 2 tequilas and fruit platter. While there she gave me the sales pitch to take her out for the bargain price of only 5000, OR I could wait til 3 am when she finished and she would visit my hotel for only 3000. I declined both.

Night 4.

Three nights and still no pussy but still not game enough for a street girl so I wandered the Mango gogo / ktvs and took a girl from Sisters? I think. Cost 3000 all in and was a great all nighter. Confidence restored a bit.

Night 5.

I wanted to climb back on the horse and get another street girl, plus a pal told me off for paying anything more than 1500. So I had a couple of beers at Beat bar Mango Sq and did some window shopping. Then I spotted a little hottie about 4'6" tall but with flesh and curves that I like. A quick chat and I accepted her 1st offer of 1000 plus she was promising to give me everything.

Well she delivered all right, a few hours of both our bodies being totally licked, sucked, groped and fucked had this old dude exhausted so I let her go early, 1000 + taxi 100, good deal I thought.

So from the worst experience to the best in a few days, bring on the next round!

[QUOTE=Mbsl65;1736093]While everything you wrote is correct. Let me update you about about J Ave. Last time I was there {EDIT} [/QUOTE]When was the last time you hit Julianas?

Over multiple trips (motivated more by internet chat mates than P4P) the following is my P4 P experience.

Mango Bars. Fairly average. Rarely would I meet anyone who I would barfine. Planet X (one of the larger bars) I did barfine OK girl on her 1st day in bar. Twice I have been rejected in Planet X because they are not interested in Westerners. Viking bar fined once when drunk and regretted it in the morning. Kim at Viking (long left) was impressive looks and dancer but refused to barfine (only Asians). Barfined at Red Lips but regretted next day. Lower class bars like Papillion, Sisters, Erik the Red are fun but rare in good lookers. Overall cheap compared to Manila bars but rare to find someone worth barfining. But can have some good fun having a few drinks.

KTVs. More oriented towards the Koreans and in general not interested in Westerners. Love City (part of Mango bars), Infinity (near Ayala), Ferarri (in manadue) and Volvo (near Robinson's mall) all owned by same owners. Volvo is my preferred place to visit each trip with at least some decent looking girls. Never met anyone even interested in sitting with at Infinity but last trip decided to try with a girl I would still not pass as bar finable. She told me she is making 40000 pesos per month mainly all Korean customers. SK2 in Manadue have some clothes removal but not good lookers here. Las Vegas near SM mall (I forget new name?) I visited on its first reopening week. Sat with one girl who was quite pretty but she told me there was no bar fine (but maybe she was making excuse). Arena is obviously highest class option in Cebu but prices are steep at 1200 per hour sitting fee. Had stand up fight at Arena because mamasan failed to disclose to me that sitting fee was 600 for girl but also have to pay 600 for mamasan. Have never asked bar fine price at Arena.

Mango Square. Went to JAve at 9.30 pm. Empty. This is really a midnight + option and I am too old to be an early morning party goer.

Overall don't come to Cebu for P4P and the Koreans have completely overrun the Cebu P4 P scene anyway.

[QUOTE=MsAccount;1745659]Overall don't come to Cebu for P4P and the Koreans have completely overrun the Cebu P4 P scene anyway.[/QUOTE]While Korans and Japs dominate the punters you seem very sad. Lots of times in Cebu no FRs so why now. Maybe you had a bad experience and now are mad etc so blame everyone but yourself?

Also maybe the girls not like you for other reasons as they do like nice guys also, respectful and not drunk out of their skulls helps as well. So many factors could result in rejection so take a look at yourself also.

But if you don't come here all the better for those who are as one less punter.

All of those I know have no issues with the market and many never go near Mango. Plenty other places.

Let us read the FRs that lead to this FR about how bad you think it is here as I love it here and am not Asian LOL.

[QUOTE=WickedRoger;1745953] Lots of times in Cebu no FRs so why now. [/QUOTE]Yep long time lurker so doing my best to make amends. Experience in Cebu is probably 12+ trips over the last 3 years (every 3 months) mainly motivated by chat mates. But I visit the P4P scene each trip but with no high expectations.

[QUOTE=WickedRoger;1745953]While Korans and Japs dominate the punters you seem very sad. Lots of times in Cebu no FRs so why now. Maybe you had a bad experience and now are mad etc so blame everyone but yourself?

Also maybe the girls not like you for other reasons as they do like nice guys also, respectful and not drunk out of their skulls helps as well. So many factors could result in rejection so take a look at yourself also.
[/QUOTE]Nope no bad experiences and I am at the other end of the spectrum. Too polite, never grope, well presented, rarely drunk as always by myself. There is a genuine bias towards Koreans (against Westerners) in the KTV's and high end bars (Viking etc). The last rejection example two weeks ago at Planet X. The girl was dancing on the stage and had never sighted me. She went to sit at the back bar and rejected me sight unseen because Westerner (as relayed to me by waitress). And I don't think it has anything to do with equipment size. The girls just know where their bread is buttered. On checkout at Waterfront, a Korean guy checking out next to me slides a wad of blue notes to the receptionist saying in poor English "you become my girlfriend". And there is no racism bias in my comments (my stepmother is Asian).

[QUOTE=WickedRoger;1745953]All of those I know have no issues with the market and many never go near Mango. Plenty other places.[/QUOTE]You have a lot more experience in the Philippines than me and all I can compare to is Manila. I have never been to AC. But after 12+ Cebu visits (with multiple nights exploring the P4P scene) I stick by the comment. As an average punter (with no contacts or inside knowledge) you would not come to Cebu purely for P4P. Maybe there are other motivations to come to Cebu. As a city I like it and have developed a nice set of non P4P contacts but I never expect much out of the Cebu P4P scene other than some fun drinks. For the average punter other than mango bars, mango square, other high end night clubs, and the KTV scene (which I listed in my report) - where else do I go? Maybe I need to venture out after midnight and try the club scene but it is not my style. Maybe I have not given Mango square enough effort (there seems to be nice bars with bands other than the nightclubs). Rarely do I meet in the Cebu P4P scene (including KTV's) a girl I would be attracted to enough to want to barfine. Compared to say Kojax on Burgos (just as an example) where you are flooded with choices. Agree prices are different but not that much different (2.5 K barfine in the cheap bars, 4 K barfine in Viking or the KTV's including girl compared to 5600 (2600 bar 3000 girl) in Kojax). Really open to your advice of "plenty other places". I will always still come to Cebu but not motivated by P4P.

I stopped the other day into the new Silver Dollar location behind Henry hotel and had a few drinks. G man was there playing pool with his special guest. Nice little place, but I found the prices high. 90 php for a sml and it was not that cold, 200 php for a LD and the standard 300 php for the bucket of Ping-Pong balls.

They are open from 1 am to 1 pm and happy hour runs from 1-5 pm. Happy hour prices 60 php for a sml and 150 php for a LD. There is no mamasan, only a papasan Mr. G. That's a smart move to save a salary.

I recognized a few old faces from the original Silver Dollar location near Fuente and got caught up on their lives (dancers and an expat). The line-up of dancers and GRO's is mostly older Filipinas. There are a few borderline younger thinner providers that might be barfinable if ever I got that drunk.

The dancers told me things have been quiet, with the bar surviving on the daily patronage of a few regular customers. A few of the GRO's were laying the sell tactics on thick trying to get me to barfine them. Telling me 'ohhh we could do this and that and barfine my friend so we can have more fun together'. LOL, no thanks! I know when a GRO is all talk, and once I say ok get dressed she will change into the "no" girl in the room no matter what she told me in the bar. Plus they were butt ugly or tambok. I prefer spinners so it was a no-go screwing a tambok GRO for 3 k when so many younger hotter semi-pro Filipinas are in CC for the taking in the 1-2 k price range.

So G Man, get some younger thinner Filipinas in there. The current crop of high mileage dancers you have might be loyal and easy to manage, but they're not doing you any favors unless guys find them attractive enough to barfine. Barfines are where you can actually make money. Guys who buy drinks do not provide the bar with enough cash flow to pay all the bills. As you get a better crop of dancers working in the bar, word will spread and business will pickup. Just my two cents.

Do you recall if the busty one named Cindy still works there? QUOTE=Stroker Ace88;1767642 I stopped the other day into the new Silver Dollar / QUOTE].

[QUOTE=DCups;1767844]Do you recall if the busty one named Cindy still works there? [/QUOTE]DCups,

I did not see any dancer / GRO's in the bar with boobs bigger than a Bcup, but there are two shifts so it's possible she might still be working there.

I think the P4P scene in Cebu has gone drastically downhill within the past 4 yrs or so. Red Lips used to be one of my favorite bars, I don't know if they still do, but they used to have 100 php lady drinks, which equates to a cheap interview, after which I've barfined a few different girls over the years, but non within the past 3 yrs. Like I said, all down hill. Part of it is due to the raids over the years and I also blame the Koreans. Not pulling any punches here, the girls have gotten spoiled by easy Korean cash. I agree with you the P4P bar scene is not worth it.

The dating scene on the other hand is a different story. I find Cebu girls to be really friendly. If you have the time to work DIA, it can really pay off.

[QUOTE=MsAccount;1745659]Over multiple trips (motivated more by internet chat mates than P4P) the following is my P4 P experience.

Mango Bars. Fairly average. Rarely would I meet anyone who I would barfine. Planet X (one of the larger bars) I did barfine OK girl on her 1st day in bar. Twice I have been rejected in Planet X because they are not interested in Westerners. Viking bar fined once when drunk and regretted it in the morning. Kim at Viking (long left) was impressive looks and dancer but refused to barfine (only Asians). Barfined at Red Lips but regretted next day. Lower class bars like Papillion, Sisters, Erik the Red are fun but rare in good lookers. Overall cheap compared to Manila bars but rare to find someone worth barfining. But can have some good fun having a few drinks.

KTVs. More oriented towards the Koreans and in general not interested in Westerners. Love City (part of Mango bars), Infinity (near Ayala), Ferarri (in manadue) and Volvo (near Robinson's mall) all owned by same owners. Volvo is my preferred place to visit each trip with at least some decent looking girls. Never met anyone even interested in sitting with at Infinity but last trip decided to try with a girl I would still not pass as bar finable. She told me she is making 40000 pesos per month mainly all Korean customers. SK2 in Manadue have some clothes removal but not good lookers here..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=DCups;1767844]Do you recall if the busty one named Cindy still works there? QUOTE=Stroker Ace88;1767642 I stopped the other day into the new Silver Dollar / QUOTE].[/QUOTE]She's still there. If you happen to go in on her day off, or when she's off shift, then just ask one of the other girls to call her. I'm sure she'll remember you and will be happy to cum there for you, LOL.

[QUOTE=Kazeu;1768538]I think the P4P scene in Cebu has gone drastically downhill within the past 4 yrs or so. Red Lips used to be one of my favorite bars, I don't know if they still do, but they used to have 100 php lady drinks, which equates to a cheap interview, after which I've barfined a few different girls over the years, but non within the past 3 yrs. Like I said, all down hill. Part of it is due to the raids over the years and I also blame the Koreans. Not pulling any punches here, the girls have gotten spoiled by easy Korean cash. I agree with you the P4P bar scene is not worth it.

The dating scene on the other hand is a different story. I find Cebu girls to be really friendly. If you have the time to work DIA, it can really pay off.[/QUOTE]Glad someone agrees with me regarding the P4 P bar scene.

I made a very quick trip to Cebu during the UN conference last month. As mentioned in a previous report I was determined to give Mango Square a better shot. I went there with two girls with their stated objective to find and negotiate a "take home" girl.

We ended going to three discos: Hype, Alcohology and a third one I can't remember the name (not JAve). All were very crowded mid week but my assessment is very difficult to detect genuine vs P4P girls in these nightclubs. Maybe Jave is the main one for P4P which we didn't go to. Its almost impossible to hear so how would you ever be able to negotiate with a P4P girl. For a single guy turning up to these nightclubs I think it would look odd.

Sure there was lots (maybe 20+) of P4P girls wandering around the square outside the discos but I didn't really see anything I was interested in.

Would appreciate some feedback whether I should persist with Mango Square.

JAve is full of P4P girls, you're best bet to get a P4 P girl is there. I would guess that at least half the girls are P4 P on any given night. Yea, the rest of the clubs on Mango Square are filled just ordinary folks.

I wouldn't worry about turning up alone to JAve. I go there alone all the time. Plenty of guys go there alone. The only one that likely cares is you. Smile, be friendly. Have a good time.

[QUOTE=MsAccount;1769415]Glad someone agrees with me regarding the P4 P bar scene.

I made a very quick trip to Cebu during the UN conference last month. As mentioned in a previous report I was determined to give Mango Square a better shot. I went there with two girls with their stated objective to find and negotiate a "take home" girl.

We ended going to three discos: Hype, Alcohology and a third one I can't remember the name (not JAve). All were very crowded mid week but my assessment is very difficult to detect genuine vs P4P girls in these nightclubs. Maybe Jave is the main one for P4P which we didn't go to. Its almost impossible to hear so how would you ever be able to negotiate with a P4P girl. For a single guy turning up to these nightclubs I think it would look odd.

Sure there was lots (maybe 20+) of P4P girls wandering around the square outside the discos but I didn't really see anything I was interested in.

Would appreciate some feedback whether I should persist with Mango Square.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Kazeu;1769450]JAve is full of P4P girls, you're best bet to get a P4 P girl is there. I would guess that at least half the girls are P4 P on any given night.[/QUOTE]I have to call bola on that. Outside ya sometimes there are a lot of semi-pros and later you get the wave of unbarfined GRO's that get off work and come looking for someone to take to Queensland. I say wave but it literally is a wave of GRO's that walk down Mango from the Viking area bars around 1 am.

Some nights the number of regular Filipinas in Julianas far exceeds the P4 P girls. Remember there's an entry fee, SOP the P4 P girls will stay outside begging free drinks from the guys they know and to try and pickup someone without having to pay the fee. I heard a few of the regular P4 P girls know the owner and get in for free because they are young, gwapa and good for business.

From my experience talking with the P4 P girls they will only pay the entry fee if there are a lot of Koreans inside (usually packed with them), think 3-3-3 rule. They generally throw around TONS of cash on drinks and chicks. Be warned that this weekend they are having what's being called the "Korean Festival Weekend Party" with top DJ's from Korea so the place with be packed with young, drunk and clueless Koreans.

FYI do not try to hit on some of the Hi-so Filipinas that occasionally visit the club and sit in the VIP area, save yourself a lot of problems.

[QUOTE=MsAccount;1769415]Glad someone agrees with me regarding the P4 P bar scene.

Would appreciate some feedback whether I should persist with Mango Square.[/QUOTE]The real issue some guys have when they visit Cebu is actually bringing themselves to pay for the play. Seems the increasing amount of under 30's young studs coming to town who refuse to pay because they think they are gwapo, They read all the info on various boards about how easy sex is to obtain in the Philippines and they think they are God's gift and therefore they call it a "freebie".

That may be true five or so years ago in Cebu, but most of the Filipinas who engage in the P4 P scene these days want straight cash. They would rather go with an older gent who pays them well, takes them out to eat and buys them shoes. They are not dumb and can figure out pretty fast if you're kuriput or a keeper.

The real quality Filipinas who are in the P4 P scene are getting rare. Most are kept under wraps by Koreans, Japanese and rich locals who pay a lot to have the quality a phone call away. The Filipinas who are chubbier and less attractive have lower prices and standards and these are the ones who sleep with the younger bucks for 'free'.

I remember years ago 2010? I was in LAC in Manila one night and in walked three International male models. Under 30, white, tall, very very good looking guys. They made the rounds of the disco upstairs and even back then the quality wouldn't go with them. I asked one Filipina why not and she told me " why go with him, sure he's hot and I can have a story to tell but they will not pay me anything, and I don't work for free". Everyone watched as only the chubby and fugly P4 P girls went up to the guys. Even the girl I was with was drooling, in fact they all were LOL. But in the end the guys declined the chubbies and left. Moral of the story, the first P means pay. If they would have offered cash the guys could had the picked any girl in there and they would have jumped, but they wanted it for free.

Excellent! Thanks, Pip! Have fun in the DR, man.

[QUOTE=PipJaeger;1768805]She's still there. If you happen to go in on her day off, or when she's off shift, then just ask one of the other girls to call her. I'm sure she'll remember you and will be happy to cum there for you, LOL.[/QUOTE].

Bingo. DIA then skype then confirm dates, times, reminders and allow for 30 minutes for trapic before you go to Plan be. The only girlie bar I visit in Cebu now is Silver Dollar.

[QUOTE=Kazeu;1768538]

The dating scene on the other hand is a different story. I find Cebu girls to be really friendly. If you have the time to work DIA, it can really pay off.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=StrokerAce88;1769559]The real issue some guys have when they visit Cebu is actually bringing themselves to pay for the play. Seems the increasing amount of under 30's young studs coming to town who refuse to pay because they think they are gwapo, They read all the info on various boards about how easy sex is to obtain in the Philippines and they think they are God's gift and therefore they call it a "freebie".
.[/QUOTE]Certainly getting play for free is not an option for me age and looks wise. However a combination of young bucks as well the not honest mongers are probably taking advantage of nave girls. Case in point. I met on my last trip at Ayala a chat mate from FC. Very cute and tall. Wore her heart on her sleave. Had a UK BF then a Canadian BF whose main entertainment was taking sex videos of her. After he dumped her she self harmed. Showing me her slash marks on her wrist. Two weeks before I met her she had met a Japanese monger from DIA who took her to Mactan resort for 4 days telling her he wanted to marry her. Also ejected inside her and told her as long as it seeped out after there was no chance of pregnancy. No money given by the Japanese. As soon as he goes back Japan no more contact. She then meets a 31 year old LA guy who takes her out clubbing and then bangs her. No money and then ignores all messages.

I know a lot of guys on this board would say that it is just part of the game. But I can't help but feel some of these guys have lost all sense of humanity.

Just speaking from personal experience. 1 am seems a little bit early to me, most of the girls bars close at 3 am. Maybe earlier if there are no customers.

I've been to zebu quite a few times over the years. I don't live there, but my basic MO used to include staying within walking distance and checking out JAve every night during my visit. Girls that you see there every night are almost guaranteed to be P4 P. I still stand by the 50% P4P rate. On weekends, I'd guess that there are slightly more regular folks just there to party.

JAve is a known hooker hangout. I have a few respectable Filipino friends and when ever I mention that I've been to JAve, I inevitably get an "Oh really?" look in response.

There are no Hi-So Filipinos in this club. Its mostly Koreans and their hookers sitting up in the VIP booths. There are better places to go in Cebu for the real Hi-so.

Anyways 50% or 30%, whatever. Its probably this guys best bet. Just my experience. YMMV.

[QUOTE=StrokerAce88;1769546]I have to call bola on that. Outside ya sometimes there are a lot of semi-pros and later you get the wave of unbarfined GRO's that get off work and come looking for someone to take to Queensland. I say wave but it literally is a wave of GRO's that walk down Mango from the Viking area bars around 1 am.

Some nights the number of regular Filipinas in Julianas far exceeds the P4 P girls. Remember there's an entry fee, SOP the P4 P girls will stay outside begging free drinks from the guys they know and to try and pickup someone without having to pay the fee. I heard a few of the regular P4 P girls know the owner and get in for free because they are young, gwapa and good for business.

From my experience talking with the P4 P girls they will only pay the entry fee if there are a lot of Koreans inside (usually packed with them), think 3-3-3 rule. They generally throw around TONS of cash on drinks and chicks. Be warned that this weekend they are having what's being called the "Korean Festival Weekend Party" with top DJ's from Korea so the place with be packed with young, drunk and clueless Koreans.

FYI do not try to hit on some of the Hi-so Filipinas that occasionally visit the club and sit in the VIP area, save yourself a lot of problems.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MsAccount;1769604]Certainly getting play for free is not an option for me age and looks wise. However a combination of young bucks as well the not honest mongers are probably taking advantage of nave girls. Case in point. I met on my last trip at Ayala a chat mate from FC. Very cute and tall. Wore her heart on her sleave. Had a UK BF then a Canadian BF whose main entertainment was taking sex videos of her. After he dumped her she self harmed. Showing me her slash marks on her wrist. Two weeks before I met her she had met a Japanese monger from DIA who took her to Mactan resort for 4 days telling her he wanted to marry her. Also ejected inside her and told her as long as it seeped out after there was no chance of pregnancy. No money given by the Japanese. As soon as he goes back Japan no more contact. She then meets a 31 year old LA guy who takes her out clubbing and then bangs her. No money and then ignores all messages.

I know a lot of guys on this board would say that it is just part of the game. But I can't help but feel some of these guys have lost all sense of humanity.[/QUOTE]I hope you opened her eyes and explained the reality.

[QUOTE=David_33;1769655]I hope you opened her eyes and explained the reality.[/QUOTE]Yeah I did my best to tell her that given her looks (tall, busty, cute face) she was underselling herself and did my best to explain the mechanics of impregnation. I didn't do anything with her this trip but I am sure I will meet up with her next trip. The cheap Charlie Japanese guy seems to be contradictory to my other posts of the Jap / Korean big spenders. But according to her he had perfect English. You don't hear from chatmates that there is a lot of Koreans / Japanese using the chatmate websites. Hopefully that remains the case.

On a side question not totally relevant to Cebu bars. From feedback from a Korean girl I met in Australia who had studied English in Cebu. Most of the Korean students in Cebu are just using it as a cheap way to study English before they start tertiary study in a Western country. If they have enough funds they would prefer just to study English in the western country they intend to end up in. In which case the Korean students in Cebu are not going to be flushed with funds. Sitting at Bo's Ayala last trip there was an extremely cute Korean girl (they tend to be taller than Filipinos). You always see lots of them at Starbucks at Ayala. Anyone had any success with picking up Korean girls in Cebu or is that an impossible expectation?

Doesn't hurt to try, but I've never seen a Korean girl in the Philippines with anyone other than a Korean guy.

[QUOTE=MsAccount;1769833] Sitting at Bo's Ayala last trip there was an extremely cute Korean girl (they tend to be taller than Filipinos). You always see lots of them at Starbucks at Ayala. Anyone had any success with picking up Korean girls in Cebu or is that an impossible expectation?[/QUOTE]

I have not dated any Koreans in PI but did so in Korea many years ago. Yes, there are always some lookers in any country but Filipinas are sweeter and don't smell like kimchi.

[QUOTE=MsAccount;1769833]Yeah I did my best to tell her that given her looks (tall, busty, cute face) she was underselling herself and did my best to explain the mechanics of impregnation. I didn't do anything with her this trip but I am sure I will meet up with her next trip. The cheap Charlie Japanese guy seems to be contradictory to my other posts of the Jap / Korean big spenders. But according to her he had perfect English. You don't hear from chatmates that there is a lot of Koreans / Japanese using the chatmate websites. Hopefully that remains the case.

On a side question not totally relevant to Cebu bars. From feedback from a Korean girl I met in Australia who had studied English in Cebu. Most of the Korean students in Cebu are just using it as a cheap way to study English before they start tertiary study in a Western country. If they have enough funds they would prefer just to study English in the western country they intend to end up in. In which case the Korean students in Cebu are not going to be flushed with funds. Sitting at Bo's Ayala last trip there was an extremely cute Korean girl (they tend to be taller than Filipinos). You always see lots of them at Starbucks at Ayala. Anyone had any success with picking up Korean girls in Cebu or is that an impossible expectation?[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=Kazeu;1769956]Doesn't hurt to try, but I've never seen a Korean girl in the Philippines with anyone other than a Korean guy.[/QUOTE]Same here. In my brief talks with a few who I did get to know I was told many want to date foreigners or even better off Pinoys, but they are petrified of being gossiped about (within their own tight knit group). In addition, their supremacism and xenophobia comes into play.

[QUOTE=MsAccount;1769833] Sitting at Bo's Ayala last trip there was an extremely cute Korean girl (they tend to be taller than Filipinos). You always see lots of them at Starbucks at Ayala. Anyone had any success with picking up Korean girls in Cebu or is that an impossible expectation?[/QUOTE]They also tend to be lighter skinned as well.

I managed to pop 2 K-Poppers, but both were with the assistance of Pinays. The first one, early last year, (skinny, cute, but rather plain looking) was eyeballing my GF1 and GF2 at a club we were at. GF1 (who tended to more aggressive when it came to approaching girls) picked up on the signals, motioned for her to go to the ladies room and there they exchanged numbers. After a bit of furious texting (still at the club) GF1 found out that the girl was bi-curious. Initially she wasn't interested in having me join, but since they would be using my bed she agreed to let me watch and just play with / touch with my girls. I left with GF2 and GF1 followed shortly thereafter in a separate taxi with the K-pop girl. Once back in the condo GF1 and 2 took no time in getting the K-popper naked and into bed. GF2 spoke to her about the wonders of having a guy in the mix and both told her that I was a really nice guy. It wasn't long before she relented and it turned out to be one of the wildest and best nights, day and second night I ever had. Period.

The second one was late last year. She was staying in a dorm where one of my other girls stayed (GF4) and they became friends. This K-popper (who was really gorgeous) told GF4 she was curious about older white guys and about the rumors that they were good lovers. GF4 educated her, LOL, and offered to intro her to me. After a couple of false starts she finally worked up the courage to come over one night to my condo for dinner with GF4. GF4 had hoped to turn it into a 3 some, but the K-popper would have none of that; she was only into guys. That one was good, but nothing special. She later told GF4 that she was more than satisfied that night, but was too afraid to try it again as she thought her K-pop friends might find out and tell her family.

Bottom line: it's not impossible, but you need to be extremely discreet about it. Should you do find one that makes eye contact with you and smiles, or gives off some other signal that she's interested, I would certainly try to pass her your number and take it from there. If you can find an intermediary, then it would be better. I have heard / read that it's easier to score a K-popper in MNL. Perhaps because it's a larger city and they feel more anonymous there.

At the-Cups: neither of the 2 I had smelled or tasted like Kimchi, more like fresh strawberries, LOL.

Cebu has never really been known as a destination for straight up P4 P; which I define as it's (overpriced) bar and SW scene. Most of the hardcore girls you find at Mango Ave clubs (and even at the malls) I would classify as being in the SW, bargirl or former bargirl category. On the other hand, Cebu has long been known for finding high-quality regular type girls who I guess you could classify as semi-pros as well as regular girls who are curious about foreigners and know they can score a little extra cash. Plus you have the girls who are hoping to find a husband / sponsor (and eventually marry him).

During the eight months I stayed in Cebu, I went to the Mango Ave area an average of three times a month. Usually it was with a few of my girls to let them have a night out dancing and drinking at some of the clubs. As the girls bounced between the clubs I would grab an outside table with another expat or two who I knew, drink a few beers and admire the scenery. I would have to agree that a large percentage of the girls there were actively seeking to hook up with a foreigner for the night; especially after the Mango Ave girly bars and the Karaoke joints closed. It was relatively easy to spot the hardcore P4 P girls (and the numerous ladyboyz too) as they were not shy about approaching guys. What I looked for were the girls who hung out in the "shadows", so to speak. They tended to be the semi-pros or even the occasional first timer who was looking to hook up. Sometimes by themselves, but often in groups of 2 or 3. They often would sit at the tables outside of J-Ave or up on the one of the balconies at one of the other clubs as well as slowly troll thru the square. If they were in groups it wasn't hard to pry one loose from their friends and arrange a meet up for that night or a subsequent one. Even though I often had the advantage of just sending one of my girls over to chat up a target, I would frequently just get the girl's number and see her another night. Though twice my girls returned to the table I was at and were met by a newbie girl. One did join for a more-some, but the other declined and I met her a few days later after convincing her that I would both be alone, and that none of the other girls would be jealous (and kill her, LOL).

I'll disagree with SA in that gorgeous girls can't be found there (either regular, semi-pros or P4 P) and that most are all being "kept" or sponsored by Koreans, Japanese and wealthy Pinoys. There's plenty of hot looking girls who are free to do as they please. But if you limit your hunting grounds to the bars and clubs around Mango Ave then I can see how one can get that impression. Mango Ave, and in particular J-Ave, are seemingly over run with K-poppers of all ages. I also noticed an influx of middle easterners (I guess due to growth of the IT Park call centers as most of the ones I talked to or overheard seemed like computer geeks, LOL), presumably from India, however many of the girls tended to shy away from them.

WR met a few of my girls (or seen pics) and he'll back me up as to their all (well most of them anyhow) being extremely attractive. 2-3 of them are / were P4 P bar (I meet them privately) or former bargirls and the others I found via online dating sites or they were referrals / friends / cousins / sisters of girls I already knew. Two of my girls who are straight up P4 P types don't care for the Koreans or Japanese, but have been with a few only because they were dumb enough or desperate enough to pay the girls a ridiculously high amount (6 K or more). They would just throw out a high number and if the dumb asses went for it then they would go with them. Both have independently told me that have gotten over 10 K on a few occasions. One was taken as arm candy to Boracay for 4 days, the Korean guy never touched her (he would watch her masterbate and jerk himself off). They stayed at a +300 USD a night resort, he took her shopping and easily spent 15-20 K PHP on her and after they returned gave her 40 K PHP. I seen the items and cash with my own eyes as she came right to my condo after she left him (she was horny as all hell, I don't know if was because she hadn't had a a dick in few days or if it was because of the cash; and I really don't care).

Most of the girls I know, several of whom are bargirls, or who I have chatted with wouldn't be seen dead with a Korean or Japanese guy, even if they do tend to (over) pay more. Pinays have their prejudices too and many believe that both of the aforementioned don't treat woman well, that they all have small dicks, that they're very rude and that the Koreans smell bad.

[QUOTE=PipJaeger;1770222]Cebu has never really been known as a destination for straight up P4 P; which I define as it's (overpriced) bar and SW scene. Most of the hardcore girls you find at Mango Ave clubs (and even at the malls) I would classify as being in the SW, bargirl or former bargirl category. On the other hand, Cebu has long been known for finding high-quality regular type girls who I guess you could classify as semi-pros as well as regular girls who are curious about foreigners and know they can score a little extra cash. Plus you have the girls who are hoping to find a husband / sponsor (and eventually marry him)..[/QUOTE]Thanks PJ and Kazeu for the feedback. Outsourcing the search and negotiations at Mango Square was my strategy but the girls I took didn't do a very good job of it. PJ, your summary of Cebu (not so good for P4 P but big enough to have a decent pool of non P4 P candidates who don't fear small town transparency) is consistent with my assessment of Cebu. Your stories (which I am surely envious of) validate (1) been in the right place at the right time and (2) the power of a network built over time. Part timers like me can be easily deceived that we can repeat the success of some of the FR's we read here. However on that front, as you may have seen from FR's I wrote in the Makati section, I am very bearish economically. Given I am assuming my work opportunities will dry up in the near future I plan to use the downtime to give the Philippines a longer stint beyond the 1+ weeks every 3 months I currently do. I am currently tossing around Manila vs Cebu vs AC vs Davao. I am sure there are other threads on the merits of long stints in different towns so I will RTFF before commenting any further.

[QUOTE=Kazeu;1769635]Just speaking from personal experience. 1 am seems a little bit early to me, most of the girls bars close at 3 am. Maybe earlier if there are no customers.[/QUOTE]What bar stays open until 3 am? Maybe some of the KTV's but for sure none of the mango bikini bars. Business is slow and has been for years. When was the last time you visited Cebu?

[QUOTE]I've been to zebu quite a few times over the years. I don't live there, but my basic MO used to include staying within walking distance and checking out JAve every night during my visit. Girls that you see there every night are almost guaranteed to be P4 P. I still stand by the 50% P4P rate. On weekends, I'd guess that there are slightly more regular folks just there to party.[/QUOTE]Talk to one of the owners, talk to the bouncers, the bartenders, the doorman. Ask them who is and who is not a pro / semipro.

[QUOTE]JAve is a known hooker hangout. I have a few respectable Filipino friends and when ever I mention that I've been to JAve, I inevitably get an "Oh really?" look in response.[/QUOTE]Maybe you shouldn't tell them where you go.

[QUOTE]There are no Hi-So Filipinos in this club. Its mostly Koreans and their hookers sitting up in the VIP booths. There are better places to go in Cebu for the real Hi-so.[/QUOTE]I agree, the Hi-so crowd does prefer to go to other more upscale clubs, but I have on many an occasion bumped into a small but elite clique of Filipinas / chinoys. I was introduced to them years ago during a black tie new years eve party in Busay and when they see me in the club they invite me to join them in the VIP. They too detest the crowds of drunk krong-krongs and usually visit Julianas when a bigger named DJ is spinning. So you telling me there is no Hi-so that go to the club is laughable.

Great post by PJ. Thanks. The guy who says the Kgals smell like kimchee should write a report about his exploits. I'm guessing he is smell sensitive and is a bit of a racist. Love the chichimi. Actually, I can smell K food as I type. Love the smell of cooked garlic

The last time I was in Cebu (last month) I did the M Ave once.. So loud. I also met two p4 p gals from the past, and spent some quality time with them. Then there was the lovely time with a gal I've been nurturing for several years. Half my age, but willing to please. Way too many love you messages afterwards. What shall I do? X.

[QUOTE=PipJaeger;1770222]SNIP

During the eight months I stayed in Cebu, I went to the Mango Ave area an average of three times a month. Usually it was with a few of my girls to let them have a night out dancing and drinking at some of the clubs. SNIP [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=XMan;1770882]Great post by PJ. Thanks. The guy who says the Kgals smell like kimchee should write a report about his exploits. I'm guessing he is smell sensitive and is a bit of a racist. Love the chichimi. Actually, I can smell K food as I type. Love the smell of cooked garlic

The last time I was in Cebu (last month) I did the M Ave once.. So loud. I also met two p4 p gals from the past, and spent some quality time with them. Then there was the lovely time with a gal I've been nurturing for several years. Half my age, but willing to please. Way too many love you messages afterwards. What shall I do? X.[/QUOTE]To x, I lived in Korea for over a year. Have you been there? If so you would know the country reeks of Kim chi in the spring. Not my favorite smell but to each his own. I have many korean friends. My first P4 P was korean. You are another long time poster who thinks you know everything.

I'm just here to get laid, I don't care what HI-So Filipinos go where. I stated my opinion as a data point for others to make there own decisions. I don't care what you think. Go have fun with your Hi-so Filipinos. Have a blast. Find the wave of hookers at 1 instead of 3. I don't care. I try not to be confrontational. You seem to try for the opposite. Again in my opinion; Its counterproductive. Have a nice day.

[QUOTE=StrokerAce88;1770844]What bar stays open until 3 am? Maybe some of the KTV's but for sure none of the mango bikini bars. Business is slow and has been for years. When was the last time you visited Cebu?

Talk to one of the owners, talk to the bouncers, the bartenders, the doorman. Ask them who is and who is not a pro / semipro.

Maybe you shouldn't tell them where you go.

I agree, the Hi-so crowd does prefer to go to other more upscale clubs, but I have on many an occasion bumped into a small but elite clique of Filipinas / chinoys. I was introduced to them years ago during a black tie new years eve party in Busay and when they see me in the club they invite me to join them in the VIP. They too detest the crowds of drunk krong-krongs and usually visit Julianas when a bigger named DJ is spinning. So you telling me there is no Hi-so that go to the club is laughable.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=DCups;1771221]To x, I lived in Korea for over a year. Have you been there? If so you would know the country reeks of Kim chi in the spring. Not my favorite smell but to each his own. I have many korean friends. My first P4 P was korean. You are another long time poster who thinks you know everything.[/QUOTE]Cups. I've lived here for almost a decade. Korea does not smell like Kimchi in the spring. Aside from that, I'm not here to argue, and given your predilection for big ones, Korea was never going to be for you. Very few Dcups here, and 99.9% are sadly bolt ONS!

Best thing about Korea? We live close to the Phils.

[QUOTE=Suwon;1771380]Cups. I've lived here for almost a decade. Korea does not smell like Kimchi in the spring. Aside from that, I'm not here to argue, and given your predilection for big ones, Korea was never going to be for you. Very few Dcups here, and 99.9% are sadly bolt ONS!

Best thing about Korea? We live close to the Phils.[/QUOTE]Hi suwon, agreed. I was stationed at osan. Off base at song tan the smell was pretty bad. Ya, I know the kgs don't have big ones but there was an exception in song tan and she was quite popular.

[QUOTE=Kazeu;1771268]I'm just here to get laid, I don't care what HI-So Filipinos go where. I stated my opinion as a data point for others to make there own decisions. I don't care what you think. Go have fun with your Hi-so Filipinos. Have a blast. Find the wave of hookers at 1 instead of 3. I don't care. I try not to be confrontational. You seem to try for the opposite. Again in my opinion; Its counterproductive. Have a nice day.[/QUOTE]You were the one who posted there are no Hi-so women that visit Julianas, not me. I know that's not true.

You say you try not to be confrontational, but when you post crap that's not correct, be prepared to be confronted.

Thank's to know! I was thinking that SilverDollar was completely closed replace by the 7/11 at the old location.

And Thank's to you because:

I stop by at the new place yesterday around 14 h30, good they have a parking, was only one car (probably the staff) but the guard was little power trip asking to backup 10 inch more.

Inside dark another corridor type shape no more booth like the old place. I was the only customer.

Order a beer Booknow Kayo (Very cold) and yes it was very cold Beer.

The girl on the floor was average. Some older was dancing she replace by a younger one but with a kind of attitude no smile I think she was boring and not happy to go to dance.

A girl came and seat next to me at my left and chat.

I was wearing short she put her hand on my legs and start to massage my shoulder. I said I just stop by to take a beer because was very heavy traffic.

Her hand go more high on my laps and surprising touch my dick. She continue to rub it and she call the other girl another girl arrived stand up also at my left and asked if she can touch it also!

Then a third girl at my right seat very tight to my seat.

I got six hand touching me everywhere!

She asked me if I want an hand job (was already start without asking and was really hard) She asked 1000 I said sorry was not planning to come here and I was shy to do that right there at the bar counter.

Immediately she lower the price to 600 saying that they will share 200 pesos each because they was hungry and no customers. So I agree.

Wow the one at the left was already put her top down and her boops touch my arm so I turn her boops was an 8/10 very lovely and she asking me to suck it in the same time I still have six hand on me.

Put some baby oil and gave me a lovely handjob! The one athe right also let me suck her boops and the three let me finger their pussy all wet!

A customer arrived and seat at the bar and watching my face on the mirror I told the girl and she said don't worry it's a regular don't be shy and enjoy.

The barmaid go around the bar and came just beside us (like that I guess she want to see my dick) and asked if I want to buy ladydrink to the three girl but the girls said no its ok no need.

They finished the job and make me come in a napkin and clean me well.

Wow was not expected that.

I paid the 600 to the girls they didn't asking more and was very happy, paid my beer and go to work when I left the parking a cute staff was arrived to work!

I been maybe twenty time in the pass at the old Silver Dollar been touch and rub but not a complete hand job like that!

That's remember me.

Few years ago in downtown a dancer young maybe 19 cute come to seat with me and touch me also and I guess she like what she touch and said to go in the back table section because more quiet.

Was very dark place she put my dick out give it a kiss put a condom and seat on me facing opposite and put my dick on her pussy and she is the one who fuck me! After finished she asking me 500 pesos!

I returned few weeks later but the bar was closed.

Many time Foreigners pay very too high here been ask 2 or 3 thousand for a short intercourse is make non sens! The price is usually between 500 and 700 pesos! (filipinos will pay between 300 to 500).

[QUOTE=StrokerAce88;1767642]I stopped the other day into the new Silver Dollar location behind Henry hotel and had a few drinks. G man was there playing pool with his special guest. Nice little place, but I found the prices high. 90 php for a sml and it was not that cold, 200 php for a LD and the standard 300 php for the bucket of Ping-Pong balls.

They are open from 1 am to 1 pm and happy hour runs from 1-5 pm. Happy hour prices 60 php for a sml and 150 php for a LD. There is no mamasan, only a papasan Mr. G. That's a smart move to save a salary.

I recognized a few old faces from the original Silver Dollar location near Fuente and got caught up on their lives (dancers and an expat). The line-up of dancers and GRO's is mostly older Filipinas. There are a few borderline younger thinner providers that might be barfinable if ever I got that drunk.

The dancers told me things have been quiet, with the bar surviving on the daily patronage of a few regular customers..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Tylenol;1774176]
Order a beer Booknow Kayo (Very cold) and yes it was very cold Beer. SNIP

I was wearing short she put her hand on my legs and start to massage my shoulder. I said I just stop by to take a beer because was very heavy traffic. SNIP

Immediately she lower the price to 600 saying that they will share 200 pesos each because they was hungry and no customers. So I agree.SNIP

Many time Foreigners pay very too high here been ask 2 or 3 thousand for a short intercourse is make non sens! The price is usually between 500 and 700 pesos! (filipinos will pay between 300 to 500).[/QUOTE]Tylenol,

Are you a local?

[QUOTE=Tylenol;1774176]
I been maybe twenty time in the pass at the old Silver Dollar been touch and rub but not a complete hand job like that!

[/QUOTE]Good story, T. The old Silver Dollar had a room in the back you could short-time in although I don't think it was widely known. I used it a couple of times. Once with a girl named Maya who I also bar-fined and will never forget. She was a true porn queen. She worshipped the schwantooka on video and enjoyed playing with the spunk. Geez I wish I could find her again.

[QUOTE=DCups;1775197]Good story, T. The old Silver Dollar had a room in the back you could short-time in although I don't think it was widely known. I used it a couple of times. Once with a girl named Maya who I also bar-fined and will never forget. She was a true porn queen. She worshipped the schwantooka on video and enjoyed playing with the spunk. Geez I wish I could find her again.[/QUOTE]It was common knowledge to the regulars.

The previous owner of SD was living in the back room (which was also the VIP room) after he blew through all his savings.

Pretty sad to see him stagger out into the bar in search of a dark corner to sleep when someone wanted to use his bed for a quickie.

I returned yesterday around same time 14 h 30 to Silver Dollar.

This time the guard didn't border to come to check how I park. It was raining.

I order a beer and again many girls come to me and they want to do the same. For the same price 600 (200 pesos each).

But my pant's was tight so they put my dick out to do the hand job.

One young sexy came to dance on the stage just in front of me and make a sexy dance looking at my dick licking her lips and rubbing her pussy.

A guy arrived and seat at the bar little bit more fare, two girl go to join him.

I sid to the girls that I was shy that other customer was there and again that not worry was also a regular she put her boobs out and asked me to suck it and to forget about that guy!

Then I saw one of the two girl with that guy the head between is legs to give him a blowjob!

The guards came inside and when in the back of the bar to take a glass of water like nothing append!

The girls told me that if next time I want a blowjob like the girl it's 500 pesos for one girl.

They finished to do the job with me and clean me up.

The girl who was dancing in front of me seat on the bar and told me that's it's up to me if I want her to do for me next time!

I count a dozen of girl on the floor yesterday pm.

And oh yes I forget my Beer was Very Very Cold nothing to complain about it.

[QUOTE=DCups;1775197]Good story, T. The old Silver Dollar had a room in the back you could short-time in although I don't think it was widely known. I used it a couple of times. Once with a girl named Maya who I also bar-fined and will never forget. She was a true porn queen. She worshipped the schwantooka on video and enjoyed playing with the spunk. Geez I wish I could find her again.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=StrokerAce88;1775043]Tylenol,

Are you a local?[/QUOTE]No I am a foreigner but work in the Philippines for many years.

[QUOTE=Tylenol;1775405]No I am a foreigner but work in the Philippines for many years.[/QUOTE]Since you're not a local, and you have posted on the board for over a decade (even if it's one post every few years) you should be smarter than that to openly post activities that could get the owner of the bar in trouble, and possibly get his mayor's permit revoked.

I know that the expat community is smaller than you think in Cebu, and word will get back to the owner if he doesn't already read the board. If you mess with a man's way to make a living or cause the bar to close everyone loses bro, including you.

Use your big head instead of your little one when posting, because you have openly bragged about your activities a couple of times. So clearly you have no clue or simply don't care.

Tried to send you a PM about this issue, but you're not a member so no choice but to post here.

Oh you completely correct.

Stroker Ace88.

But. (I personally prefer the Butt of the girls and not waist time like that) I was thinking that the Moderator of this board was the Admin as indicated not you! "This forum thread is moderated by Admin".

So:

Well when people wrote that they pay 1 k 2 k 3 k for a short time you don't confronted. Them I want to make the point that the price is more lower and that this kind of tourist that blow money.

Make the price raise.

When they wrote that the beer was warm. No confrontation well my four beer was Very Very Cold.

Well, when people wrote that the previous place as a room at the back that the girls screw customers no confrontation.

Same as the majority as the report of activity where they give the name of the place no matter bar or massage parlor the price and the name of the girl. No confrontation from you.

In fact look board of other country Thailand, Korea, Japan, Singapore, USA, Mexico, Australia. I visited nice place and got Great time and I avoid bad place when I travel or work on many country.

Because some honest users wrote the fact and the price, the name of the place.

The name of the girls and what was her specialty.

And some one indicate the road and way to find the place!

Well I think this board need to change the rule like that you will be happy and not confronted other users that wrote the fact!

Should be now some report like this:

"Somewhere (cannot say the name of the place) someday with some girl she offer me a blowjob in the bar for 500 pesos!. ".

Like that the mayor will not know where and will preserved the owner. And you will be happy!

But good luck to other user to find the place and good luck to tell if it's the truth or not.

And you will probably confront them also because what they wrote cannot be verify.

Hum I will think about it I will continue to read time to time here. And I don't know when I will write again. I have respect for "Senior".

I know that old people can become very irritate and also they like to bitching on other people what else they can do when they become to old.

I am not old enough for that. And to be a senior.

And what the Hell if people don't like what I wrote and I give them Headache Hehe they just need to take too pills like me.

Tylenol.

P.S. Yes I know that you don't do confrontation only with me. :

[QUOTE=Tylenol;1776216]
Well when people wrote that they pay 1 k 2 k 3 k for a short time you don't confronted. Them I want to make the point that the price is more lower and that this kind of tourist that blow money.[/QUOTE]Yes info like that is exchanged and posted on the forum, but the main difference is when you barfine someone (EWR) you are paying to take them [B]OUT OF THE BAR[/B], and all activities that happen outside of the bar between two consenting adults means the bar is no longer responsible.

[QUOTE]When they wrote that the beer was warm. No confrontation well my four beer was Very Very Cold.[/QUOTE]I'm happy you were served a very very very cold beer, but the beer I was served was not very very very cold, hence my post.

[QUOTE]Well, when people wrote that the previous place as a room at the back that the girls screw customers no confrontation.[/QUOTE]That info was posted [B]AFTER THAT BAR LOCATION WAS CLOSED[/B], not while it was open. There is a big difference, but clearly you understand very very very little of what is posted on the board.

[QUOTE]Same as the majority as the report of activity where they give the name of the place no matter bar or massage parlor the price and the name of the girl. No confrontation from you.[/QUOTE]IMO it is taboo to post on the open forum about any sexual activity [B]INSIDE THE BAR[/B] that can directly result in the bar getting raided or having a business permit revoked. That info might be posted once in awhile about the bars in AC where things can get wilder at times, but usually it's newbies who don't have a clue that post that shit. It's because of idiots like you that mango area bars no longer acknowledge there's a barfine. The fact you can't tell the difference between the two means I'm probably wasting my time trying to explain it.

[QUOTE]In fact look board of other country Thailand, Korea, Japan, Singapore, USA, Mexico, Australia. I visited nice place and got Great time and I avoid bad place when I travel or work on many country.[/QUOTE]If you travel and monger in other Countries it would benefit the forum if you post some FR's, but this is the Cebu section and openly posting shit on an open forum that can get the bar shut down is just dumb. In Thailand and many other places things are more open, but Cebu it's much more monitored. When a Cebu bikini contest get closed down because of morality issues, you know the mango area bars are walking a fine line.

In fact I think you're as dumb as a bag of rocks, because you fail to realize you drove your car to the bar. The guard even helped you park it. When the guard helped you, he took out his log book and wrote down your license plate number. You posted that you did not know why he helped you park the first time but the second visit in the rain he didn't move. Well since you have no clue, it's because he ALREADY has your plate number in his book so no need to move the second day you visited. Since you posted your "adventures" in the bar, if the bar closes.

You know what, fuck it. I had a much longer detailed post to TRY and explain things to you, but screw it I'm done trying to enlighten the blind.

Wow.

I just travel back in Cebu beginning of September for few weeks, now I am at Bohol and after I flight back Manila before go another country.

I don't have car, the two time I borrow it from two different owner.

Well sorry if the truth hurt you!

Owner (Filipino or foreigner I don't know and I don't care I am not racist).

Should be happy to know what append during day time when he is not there like that he can make sure it's not append again if he is not agree with that.

If for him it's normal well he is the one who play with fire.

I think you need more of two Tylenol.

I never call you any bad words you just show how educated and intelligent you are and I will not lower at your level.

Wish you the best in your life.

This is my last message.

Tylenol

[QUOTE=StrokerAce88;1776688]Yes info like that is exchanged and posted on the forum, but the main difference is when you barfine someone (EWR) you are paying to take them [B]OUT OF THE BAR[/B], and all activities that happen outside of the bar between two consenting adults means the bar is no longer responsible.

I'm happy you were served a very very very cold beer, but the beer I was served was not very very very cold, hence my post.

That info was posted [B]AFTER THAT BAR LOCATION WAS CLOSED[/B], not while it was open. There is a big difference, but clearly you understand very very very little of what is posted on the board.

IMO it is taboo to post on the open forum about any sexual activity [B]INSIDE THE BAR[/B] that can directly result in the bar getting raided or having a business permit revoked. That info might be posted once in awhile about the bars in AC where things can get wilder at times, but usually it's newbies who don't have a clue that post that shit. It's because of idiots like you that mango area bars no longer acknowledge there's a barfine. The fact you can't tell the difference between the two means I'm probably wasting my time trying to explain it..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=StrokerAce88;1776688]IMO it is taboo to post on the open forum about any sexual activity [B]INSIDE THE BAR[/B] that can directly result in the bar getting raided or having a business permit revoked. That info might be posted once in awhile about the bars in AC where things can get wilder at times, but usually it's newbies who don't have a clue that post that shit.

If you travel and monger in other Countries it would benefit the forum if you post some FR's, but this is the Cebu section and openly posting shit on an open forum that can get the bar shut down is just dumb. .[/QUOTE]Now I don't always agree with SA but the bit about writing about activities inside the bar can possibly cause grief. A place was closed under 12 months ago for 'nudity' albeit I think (not sure) the girls were topless. Something I have seen in AC (and more) and Burgos is well frowned upon in Cebu.

So best keep that type of information to PMs or private. But seems you don't have a PM so why not pay $20 and get one (Also. Where are all the FRs? Long time member we can see (12 years) but very few FRs of real substance and certainly and none in many of he places you mentioned.

Tylenol, just upgrade your account here and PM the folks who spend a lot of time in Cebu. People here are always happy to exchange tips and share specific info. I agree with SA and WR that what you wrote should be kept on the down low. Maybe just share details on the kind of girls you find there and what they look like but I don't think we need to draw extra attention by the authorities or cause grief to the owners of these places that many guys enjoy supporting. I personally don't hit the bars much but I know some do so why spoil it for them. And we all know what we should spend but every situation may be different. Remember most of us just visit or work in Cebu and want to enjoy what we do without rocking the boat here. We are guests here in the Phils and we are treated pretty darn great in exchange for spending money supporting folks here. Being too loud and boisterous just causes trouble to owners of places that may get closed and even leads some hobbyists to find themselves in jail as we have seen. And no one is happy with either of those two situations. BTW, I'm back in Cebu come the end of November so if any of you savvy veterans are around and want to have a coffee or drink shoot me a PM. Be nice to meet some other folks from here and see ones I've already met.

[QUOTE=WickedRoger;1776772]Now I don't always agree with SA but the bit about writing about activities inside the bar can possibly cause grief. A place was closed under 12 months ago for 'nudity' albeit I think (not sure) the girls were topless. Something I have seen in AC (and more) and Burgos is well frowned upon in Cebu.

So best keep that type of information to PMs or private. But seems you don't have a PM so why not pay $20 and get one (Also. Where are all the FRs? Long time member we can see (12 years) but very few FRs of real substance and certainly and none in many of he places you mentioned.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=WickedRoger;1776772]Now I don't always agree with SA but the bit about writing about activities inside the bar can possibly cause grief. A place was closed under 12 months ago for 'nudity' albeit I think (not sure) the girls were topless. Something I have seen in AC (and more) and Burgos is well frowned upon in Cebu.

So best keep that type of information to PMs or private. But seems you don't have a PM so why not pay $20 and get one (Also. Where are all the FRs? Long time member we can see (12 years) but very few FRs of real substance and certainly and none in many of he places you mentioned.[/QUOTE]Mr. G is a decent guy who's just trying to run a business. He doesn't need or deserve a load of crap being dumped on him.

It's fair to say many of the senior members that post on the Cebu board hear stuff, see stuff and experience things that are best left to PM or shared in person. Posting stuff that could get a bar that many of us enjoy closed down crossed a line.

Will PM you next time I'm in town.

Regardless of what Stroker ace says, if you ask your Hi so friends to go to Julianas. Be prepared to be confronted.

[QUOTE=StrokerAce88;1771570]You were the one who posted there are no Hi-so women that visit Julianas, not me. I know that's not true.

You say you try not to be confrontational, but when you post crap that's not correct, be prepared to be confronted.[/QUOTE]

Have I been there? I've been to Seoul twice and once to Chinhae (navy base). From Chinhae I took a bus to Busan for a short visit. I've dated two Korean women (long time ago) and didn't notice any odors (small sample I must admit). I have Korean friends and work associates. Currently I live across the street from a Korean restaurant.

I did not know that Korea smells like kimchi in the spring, nor do I care. Do you have any more questions?

[QUOTE=DCups;1771221]To x, I lived in Korea for over a year. Have you been there? If so you would know the country reeks of Kim chi in the spring. Not my favorite smell but to each his own. I have many korean friends. My first P4 P was korean. You are another long time poster who thinks you know everything.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=XMan;1778615] Do you have any more questions?[/QUOTE]Not for you, X. Thanks and Good Day, sir.

[QUOTE=DCups;1771221] If so you would know the country reeks of Kim chi in the spring. Not my favorite smell but to each his own. [/QUOTE]It's the time of the year when families prepare extremely large quantities of Kimi chi for the rest of the year. It is not a dozen heads of cabbage but bundles that a family buys and prepares. I love Kimi chi and have it whenever I can. Better get used to it as it usually accompanies every meal.
I love Korean women and their silken skin. They take good care of themselves.

[QUOTE=StrokerAce88;1767642]I stopped the other day into the new Silver Dollar location behind Henry hotel and had a few drinks. (...)
I prefer spinners so it was a no-go screwing a tambok GRO for 3 k when so many younger hotter semi-pro Filipinas are in CC for the taking in the 1-2 k price range. (...)[/QUOTE]Just to avoid confusion: the new silver dollar is not located behind Henry hotel but behind Harold's hotel, close to the Golden Peak hotel.

And BTW. What do you mean by "CC"? Cebu city? Or does that stand for a particular place or bar?

Cheers.

[QUOTE=Biggusdickus;1788155]Just to avoid confusion: the new silver dollar is not located behind Henry hotel but behind Harold's hotel, close to the Golden Peak hotel.

And BTW. What do you mean by "CC"? Cebu city? Or does that stand for a particular place or bar?

Cheers.[/QUOTE]You sir are absolutely correct. It is Harold's Hotel. I visited a wingman who was staying at Henry's, I had that Hotel name on my mind. Brain fart, my bad.

Yep CC= Cebu City. IMO it's just easier to type CC when I am talking about the city proper area.

Was staying at the Waterfront airport hotel overnight. I had previously visited the KTV there last year but decided to give it one more shot.

When I walked in only two girls sitting in main area (where last time I was there, maybe 15 were in public area). No customers in public area. Mammasan asked if I wanted line up so I said ok. About 10 girls in line up. None I really would have chosen but for research purposes chose one. 24 year old, pretty face but chubby. 410 per hour sitting fee plus standard drink price to buy her drink (expensive but not totally out of control). Asked her the standard questions of how the place worked. 70% Korean customers. She barfines for 5000 (not sure now whether that was private arrangement or price paid to bar). At 11.00 pm they have a show with all girls. Suddenly 7 tables of customers came out of private rooms and all up probably 30 girls on stage. A few were not bad but obviously already taken in the private rooms. Maybe also never offered to Westerners. After show everyone disappeared again and I was left by myself with the chosen girl in the public area. Strange culture the Asian KTV private room culture. The hour was up and wasn't going to extend so gave small tip (which she was still appreciative of) and left.

Don't think I will bother again if I am staying at the airport. Generally I have not spent any time in the Mactan bar scene. I don't remember a lot of FR's here on Mactan. But I would suspect the Koreans dominate the bars on Mactan and so I don't think I will bother either researching FR's here or visiting. Unless an expert says I am missing out on Mactan gems?

Still in Cebu, nice change from Angeles. Cebu has got vibes, certain amount of charm. The people are just simply nicer.

Arena Cebu still there, P100/110 beer, P300 Ladies Drink, P6500 Bar Fine, officially. Nice gaggle of ladies. Indians noticeable this time, blocking entrance to toilet, talking in private, group of 5/7 , out of sight of everyone. Tactics as to who would pay and who of the 7 would go first I suppose.

Place is dominated and dependent on Koreans and Japanese. Girls will ignore all others if K's in attendance. I got a nice girl, even so. Being hansom helps, LOL. Once K fans found out through her I am a good fuck, the K fans gave me the come on too, much to the changrine of the K's.

Downtown sleaze, Sangcianko / Pelaez, still on. Not for the faint hearted.

Checked two tips, Mandaue. SK2 pronounced 'eskeetow' , formerly Club Harem. Arrive, its now called "45" something. A Jollibee lady (overweight) tried her best. Nothing compares with Harem. Then another new bar show place, to me: Ferrari, nearby "near J Mall, in A S Fortuna St (Mandaue). Drivers know it. Enter, P174 beer, P659 Ladies Drink, P6000 Bar Fine. Small to medium sized place, nice looking, furnished etc. Some very nice looking girls here, similar to Arena standard. Friendly, read 'hungry' only four customers in the place, 20 or so girls, and an off night Sunday. Worth checking out on a Thurs Frid but tough looking woman ie manager, closely watching everything. Exchange of phone numbers, thus avoiding bar fine, not likely to happen methinks. Price kills it, otherwise very nice little nooky.

Met a lot of charming people, girls. Beats Angeles Manila for that.

Previous Sunday night Mango bars near Church all empty, 2 or 3 girls and one or no customers in each and every one of them. Exception: Vikings (1st bar on left, down the stairs) , around 40/50 girls it seemed and 5/6 customers. Hit Vikings and you will not be wasting your time, if its a Sunday night, that is.

Cebu Pacific planes. ETD 8 am Cebu City, 10 am we are told to board that plane. 11 am we are still in the plane on the tarmac. On arrival Manila we had to stay in the plane on tarmac for 20 minutes before being able to exit. Clark, a 9.15 pm CP plane changed to 1.15 pm next day. People who had to overnight etc did not receive any help or compensation. Compare that with me getting a P16,850 cash in hand refund from Cebu Pacific, all because I knew someone in a travel agency who knows her job. If I tried, would not have happened. Thats my first refund in SE Asia, and a big one at that. Tempted to spend some of it on a Ferrari girl, but didn't. Silly prices.

By the way, arrival Cebu airport, white taxis relocated from upper level to ground level, domestic arrivals level. Exit, turn right. Worse than previous arrangement upstairs. Three locations in three years it seems. Round and round they go, never to arrive at their destination. The upper level arrangement was right, lower level arrangement not so good, but hey its Phils.

Must say, called into L A Cafe once, too. Day time 1. 30 pm, some nice girls there. No suggestion of me having to buy a drink or anyone, incl waitresses asking for a drink. Yet that has been reported here by others. No hassles for me, anyway.

Bit of a ramble but had to punch it out, in between heavy schedule.

See previous report yesterday Sunday, re Ferrari club / show place. Called back Monday more girls and more pretty ones. Prices given to me Sunday wrong. Beer P95 , Ladies Drink P464. Still expensive. If you can secure her via cellphone, she expects her half of the official bar fine, she expects P3000. Don't think you will get one for less at this place. Nice experience with one I consider a 8 plus. Personality, looks, friendly. Tonight I will consummate the romance, LOL.

[QUOTE=Sxxxx;1792081]
Cebu Pacific planes. ETD 8 am Cebu City, 10 am we are told to board that plane. 11 am we are still in the plane on the tarmac. On arrival Manila we had to stay in the plane on tarmac for 20 minutes before being able to exit. Clark, a 9.15 pm CP plane changed to 1.15 pm next day. People who had to overnight etc did not receive any help or compensation. Compare that with me getting a P16,850 cash in hand refund from Cebu Pacific, all because I knew someone in a travel agency who knows her job. If I tried, would not have happened. Thats my first refund in SE Asia, and a big one at that. Tempted to spend some of it on a Ferrari girl, but didn't. Silly prices.

By the way, arrival Cebu airport, white taxis relocated from upper level to ground level, domestic arrivals level. Exit, turn right. Worse than previous arrangement upstairs. Three locations in three years it seems. Round and round they go, never to arrive at their destination. The upper level arrangement was right, lower level arrangement not so good, but hey its Phils.

.[/QUOTE]Issue with the planes is FR in Manila thread as much is due to NAIA and the totally inadequate airport facilities and 1 runway. I usually find the 8-9 am planes leave on time so am surprised (and worried) that this happened to you Sxxx but Cebu Pac has 'upgraded' its systems so the issue is now worse. See FRs in Manila also.

Taxis. I like the new set up as no scammers and no carrying heavy bags up a ramp etc. I like the new set up yes can be better but I think is way better than the scramble before Unless you went p to departures).

Thanks for the report. It's been many years since I played in Lapu2, but I remember that Mermaid had some hot ladies. I'm not sure if it's still there. Coming from the airport you could see the neon sign (at night) just before you took the curve onto the bridge off of Mactan Island.

Has anyone been to Liza's Mandaue since the big raid? I don't remember the name exactly, but my alcohol addled brain wants to type Liza's Sea Fun club.

[QUOTE=MsAccount;1791733]Was staying at the Waterfront airport hotel overnight. I had previously visited the KTV there last year but decided to give it one more shot.

When I walked in only two girls sitting in main area (where last time I was there, maybe 15 were in public area). No customers in public area. Mammasan asked if I wanted line up so I said ok. About 10 girls in line up. None I really would have chosen but for research purposes chose one. 24 year old, pretty face but chubby. 410 per hour sitting fee plus standard drink price to buy her drink (expensive but not totally out of control). Asked her the standard questions of how the place worked. 70% Korean customers. She barfines for 5000 (not sure now whether that was private arrangement or price paid to bar). At 11.00 pm they have a show with all girls. Suddenly 7 tables of customers came out of private rooms and all up probably 30 girls on stage. A few were not bad but obviously already taken in the private rooms. Maybe also never offered to Westerners. After show everyone disappeared again and I was left by myself with the chosen girl in the public area. Strange culture the Asian KTV private room culture. The hour was up and wasn't going to extend so gave small tip (which she was still appreciative of) and left.

Don't think I will bother again if I am staying at the airport. Generally I have not spent any time in the Mactan bar scene. I don't remember a lot of FR's here on Mactan. But I would suspect the Koreans dominate the bars on Mactan and so I don't think I will bother either researching FR's here or visiting. Unless an expert says I am missing out on Mactan gems?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=XMan;1793111]...Has anyone been to Liza's Mandaue since the big raid? I don't remember the name exactly, but my alcohol addled brain wants to type Liza's Sea Fun club.[/QUOTE]Try Liza's Sea Food Club, LOL.

Somewhere I heard Liza's changed to a non bar fine policy. Really don't know. My m. O. Is, if folks are not talking about it, you can safely forget it.

Yeh, Liza's was good when it was. But seems it aint, anymore.

Has anyone tasted Liza's lately? I too am curious about its status nowadays.

Out that way, and on a trip few days ago, I only tried and reported on Ferrari and SK2 , which is now called '45' something.

Vikings was the big plus place when I was in Cebu. But then I am just a *****monger, not a Skogy look alike. Lucky lad that he is (looks, youth, money, and game). Although I agree with him, not too sure about his future 'health'. Might need a penis transplant or two?

Gents,

Red Lips is closed by order of CC Mayor Rama. Only time will tell if the bar will re-open under a new name.

IMO the writing was on the wall after the bar was raided back in 2012.

Personally I liked the bar. There was always a good range of GRO's, with a couple of quality spinners. What I didn't like about the bar, were the locals who would sit against the wall to the left as you entered. You could tell they were there for a reason (not sex related) and watched everything that went on in the bar from a distance.

[URL]http://www.sunstar.com.ph/cebu/local-news/2015/11/26/mayor-closes-bar-trafficking-charges-443819[/URL]

[QUOTE=StrokerAce88;1805879]Gents,

Red Lips is closed by order of CC Mayor Rama. Only time will tell if the bar will re-open under a new name.

IMO the writing was on the wall after the bar was raided back in 2012.

Personally I liked the bar. There was always a good range of GRO's, with a couple of quality spinners. What I didn't like about the bar, were the locals who would sit against the wall to the left as you entered. You could tell they were there for a reason (not sex related) and watched everything that went on in the bar from a distance.

[URL]http://www.sunstar.com.ph/cebu/local-news/2015/11/26/mayor-closes-bar-trafficking-charges-443819[/URL][/QUOTE]Sad news as was not a bad place. Some college girls I know used to work there part time and Red Lips was not fused if they came and went at times. Owned by the Scandie who owns Vikings etc so I wonder where he is now.

The college girls (UC, USJR and other colleges) were never trafficked, they went there of their own accord knowing exactly what would happen. One of them her father encouraged her to do as family needed cash, she was happy, they were happy but of course the IJM and other kill joys were not LOL.

[QUOTE=WickedRoger;1805939] ..............................Owned by the Scandie who owns Vikings etc so I wonder where he is now........................................[/QUOTE]Are you talking about the original owner of Vikings, Peter (Scandinavian, known as Peter the Viking)?

He died many years ago, at a guess, twenty years ago. Many a story can be written about him, especially in the original Viking location, near Ramos St (Mango Ave), 1980's.

Phil wife proved to be a smarter bar owner than Peter, and before Peters body had got cold, expanded Vikings, apparently with money from a sucker foreigner investor. Peter the Viking (as he was called) has been dead a long long time.

[QUOTE=Sxxxx;1807261]Are you talking about the original owner of Vikings, Peter (Scandinavian, known as Peter the Viking)?

He died many years ago, at a guess, twenty years ago. Many a story can be written about him, especially in the original Viking location, near Ramos St (Mango Ave), 1980's.

Phil wife proved to be a smarter bar owner than Peter, and before Peters body had got cold, expanded Vikings, apparently with money from a sucker foreigner investor. Peter the Viking (as he was called) has been dead a long long time.[/QUOTE]I thought it was another Scandie Sxxx as not Pete I referred to. Never knew the guys name as I rarely went to bars (still don't) unless I have visitors or know a girl who works there etc.

Whatever, is sad as I like Red Lips and so did the girls I knew there as was much easier to work there and less restrictions I was told.

Some college girls worked there o and off when they pleased. When they did I would always pop in and say Hi and buy them a drink etc.

[QUOTE=StrokerAce88;1805879]Gents,

Red Lips is closed by order of CC Mayor Rama. Only time will tell if the bar will re-open under a new name.

IMO the writing was on the wall after the bar was raided back in 2012.

Personally I liked the bar. There was always a good range of GRO's, with a couple of quality spinners. What I didn't like about the bar, were the locals who would sit against the wall to the left as you entered. You could tell they were there for a reason (not sex related) and watched everything that went on in the bar from a distance.

[URL]http://www.sunstar.com.ph/cebu/local-news/2015/11/26/mayor-closes-bar-trafficking-charges-443819[/URL][/QUOTE]I loved and hated that bar. The layout was nice and it was off the beaten path but it was K friendly to the extreme. I don't like.

Being discriminated against so no love lost here. Bye Bye.

Fucking Cebu / Mango Square, they really play an anti western game there, fuck them.

Koreans pay up.

[QUOTE=StrokerAce88;1805879]Gents,
Red Lips is closed by order of CC Mayor Rama. Only time will tell if the bar will re-open under a new name.
][/QUOTE]All the girls from red lips are working at bg's so bg's has a rich picking of girls now. Chatting some ex red lips girls on the first night after closure and they are still saying reopen in five days but maybe they are getting optimistic feedback from management.

[QUOTE=MsAccount;1807855]All the girls from red lips are working at bg's so bg's has a rich picking of girls now. Chatting some ex red lips girls on the first night after closure and they are still saying reopen in five days but maybe they are getting optimistic feedback from management.[/QUOTE]I asked a local who works in shall we say upper management here in Cebu about the situation. I was told the rule is, a GRO type bar cannot immediately open in the same place where one was closed down, any new owner must wait one year before re-opening.

I was also told there are ways around the rule, so we will have to wait and see what will happen.

I ventured into the new Silver Dollar this trip. I went to the old bar once during the day back in 2013. Ticked that off the list not sure I need to go back again.

I went to Ferrari based upon feedback here. Nice renovated decor. Was shown maybe 20 girls in line up. Better looks than the Mango bars. Was originally quoted sitting fee of something like 674 (I don't remember the exact figure but they use silly non rounded prices). But both a ladies drink and mammasan drink so total would be something like 1300+ for one hour. I said you have to be joking. At which the price was adjusted to something like 457 pesos (guessing again some silly non rounded number) which still meant something like 900 pesos for 1 hour. I said ok. Chose a quite pretty girl from CDO. Was quoted 6000 barfine but did not partake. Upon receiving my change the mammasan sort of demanded a tip for her and the waiter at which I lost my patience and gave her a soapbox lecture on the need for her to improve her customer relationship skills. In general I didn't like the culture of this place. Dishonest vulture culture (similar to Arena's culture). Can I ask if other reviewers paid both the girl sitting fee and the mammasan fee or was I ripped off? Would I go back. Hmmm I don't like to patronage places where I feel they treat me as an idiot to be ripped off even though the looks of the girls was not bad.

[QUOTE=Socker;1807794]I loved and hated that bar. The layout was nice and it was off the beaten path[/QUOTE]Your post brought back memories of my first visit to Red Lips.

I spent the day drinking at an Aussie buddy's place over in Guadalupe. I was pretty drunk when I left and I took a taxi to the old Silver Dollar around 7 pm to continue my liver abuse. Later I walked from Fuente over to Red Lips and grabbed something to eat along the way.

I walked into Red Lips around midnight and paid no attention to the filipina who was standing just inside the door, as all my attention was focused on the lovely ladies on stage. Well, it seems the filipina was there to point out and warn customers of the rather large step DOWN into the bar. LMAO I missed the step and almost crumpled to the floor and my body twisted sideways in a serious attempt to avoid kissing the floor. I landed on one of the small sofas, thankfully no one was sitting there and the bar was pretty empty. There were 6 or 8 dancers on stage and half of them laughed and the other half gasped. I was ok, with only a bruised ego. Talk about a way to make an entrance.

I ordered a bottle of water and low and behold the waitress who delivered the water I knew very well from another bar. She busted my balls about my entrance for awhile, which was all in good fun. I decided it was only water or soda for me the rest of the night because I was still feeling drunk, so I started to buy her LD's. Usually GRO's or dancers will order rum and coke (hold the rum) or ice tea, but she wanted tequila, so we left the sofa and went over to the bar where she proceeded to pour herself a shot. I knew from partying with her in the past that she liked to drink. She had 5 or 6 shots in the hour or so we were at the bar. Now this is where things get interesting.

I knew her for a couple of years at that point. We partied in GRO bars and in regular bars around Mango. She was never the prettiest filipina around me, kinda nerdy looking with glasses and didn't have that thin lean spinner body that I usually lust after, but there was just something about her. She had a very good command of the English language and had a way with words. I lusted after her on many occasions, but alas, it seems my game wasn't up to par with her because she always shot me down. So I was kinda shocked when she started to flirt back at me. It was playful at first but after awhile she leaned close and she started to talk dirty, the likes I have never heard a Filipina utter before or since.

I thought the filth coming out of her mouth was a wind-up, just bolax2 GRO talk to tease or try to entice a barfine, but I knew she didn't barfine or go with customers so here I was sitting there listening to her filthy raunchy potty mouth half shocked and the other half totally turned on. She told me her shift was over and if I want to go somewhere with her to meet her near Yellow Cab in ten minutes. I said alright sounds good. I paid my tab and she took my arm and in a hilarious way escorted me over to the door and made sure to point out the step I missed on the way into the bar.

I waited out near Mango for awhile and I came to the conclusion her filthy talk was just another way to joke around with me and so when she asked me to go somewhere else with her it was probably going to be bar hopping around Mango like we had done so many times before. Well 10 minutes turns into 15 and I'm sure she played me but when I was about to hail a taxi and leave, out she comes from the bar and she looks good. I dunno what she did but dang she looked hot. I asked her where she wanted to go and she whispered "Queensland" into my ear so the guard at Yellow Cab could not hear. As she leaned close I could smell her body spray and my mind did somersaults trying to drink in her essence.

I said alright let's go and took her hand and moved towards Mango to hail a taxi, but she pulled away and said no this way. She pulled me towards Vienna and I thought to myself now what LOL? She told me to "wait awhile" as she went into the restaurant and in seconds she came out with a helmet and told me some relative or other works there so she keeps her helmet there and parks her bike out front for free. She goes over to her bike and puts on her helmet and said, "get on biotch" LOL I was taken aback. I did not expect that at all.

I tried to talk her out of it since I was still somewhat drunk and she had been drinking but she dismissed it. I got on and together we drove down Mango. As we passed the Mango-Gorordo intersection some CITOM dude stopped us. I was not wearing a helmet so I just passed the guy 200 P and he let us continue LOL. What a crazy ride down Mango on the back of a bike driven by a half drunk Filipina. Good thing at that time of the night there wasn't a lot of traffic around.

So we get to Queensland and I paid for a three hour stay and to the room we go. Once the Queensland staff closed the door, she literally jumps on me. What ensued was nothing short of pure animal sex. Biting scratching full out passion. After we finished we both drifted off to sleep and I woke up when one of the staff members came to the door to inform me my three hours was almost up so I told him to change it the daily rate. We went at it again, but this time it started softer and gradually built up into amour fou, or more precisely, all consuming crazy love making. After, we fell asleep once again and hours later I woke up to an empty bed.

I got dressed and paid for the room and stumbled out into the street. The blazing sun scorched my face as my eyes tried to adjust to the brightness. I got into a taxi and I checked my phone and read the texts from her, all sweet, witty and thanked me for the evening. I left for another island later that day and when I came back to Cebu a week later I went back to the bar to see her again, but as luck would have it she no longer worked there. We texted each other for a couple of months after but that too ended when she changed SIM cards and I lost track of her.

I keep thinking I will bump into her again one evening around Cebu, as I did so many times before, but for now at least that day has yet to arrive. I guess it just goes to show that sometimes, the best experiences in life come from the people you would least expect it.

Great post. I went to Red Lips for their opening party, and I tripped several times. At some point they put some kind of light strips along the uneven parts of the floor. That was better but not completely drunk-proof.

I'm going to agree and disagree with your last line. I've had some fantastic sexperiences. But for me it was the first date or first barfine. Subsequent trysts usually weren't as good. I'm not complaining. X.

[QUOTE=StrokerAce88;1815011]Your post brought back memories of my first visit to Red Lips.

SNIP
I guess it just goes to show that sometimes, the best experiences in life come from the people you would least expect it.

[/QUOTE]

Great story Stroker Ace, I've made some great entrances myself like walking into a sliding glass door. I was in a nice restaurant w / deck over looking San Francisco bay, left my table for the rest room and someone closed the sliding glass door behind me. Came back from the CR and was strutting down towards the deck and BAM! Almost broke the damn thing, chuckled w / everybody else and tried to forget about it w / another drink.

The thing about the Mango St bars is they really play the western dudes, or maybe just me. Some of the hottest Filipinos are in those bars and will have nothing to do w / you. When a few K dudes walk in the mamasan is yelling for a line up, the girls are all hot and bothered hoping to be chosen, it just pisses a guy off. Good for the Ks but bad for me. Sure the 2nd tier ladies are ready to fill the void but man, I want my first choice!

You see the lady of your dreams and she might as well not be there, you have no chance. In 2010 during my first trips to the PI I hit AC and then to Cebu and Cebu is where the most beautiful ladies were but they were brutal. Ac in those days was not so discriminatory, I was never turned away from the best AC had to offer but they did not compare w / the best Cebu had to offer.

So I have a lot of bad memories of Cebu and Mango Sq. The women were incredibly fine w / hearts the size of a pea. A few times I was played like a fish on the line, playing me for LD after LD w / the promise of a bar fine but the bar fine never happened. Once in a while I would get lucky and bar fine one of the hotties only to see her shut it down once in the room. I would react quickly and take them back to the bar for a refund but there was never a manager to hear my complaint, hence waste of time and money.

My last experiences were in Red Lips and a few of the ladies were just so intensely hot but either they would not look at me or play me for LDs. So over the top and I was a sucker for it, I blame myself. I remember one spinner so beautiful, nothing close to her in AC, she eventually ended up w / 2 drunk Ks in the back seating. They were mauling her, tossing her this way and that. As I sat there watching the stage and especially her w / her K pals her face was turning from extreme laughing to extreme anguish back and forth. I would have freaking bought the bar for her but she would rather be a rag doll tossed around by these average looking drunk Ks. It just makes you sick.

So on my last 3 visits to the PI I have bypassed Cebu because of this abuse. It still pisses me off that the BGs are that stupid. Conversely in Makati the same talent level is not discriminatory so that's on my PI itinerary every trip. Also, lately you hear about AC turning into another Cebu w / this race discrimination and it's f-ing not good. I'm sure things in the PI will change for the better, these kinds of trends usually do but man I wish I could get my hands on that killer Cebu pussy, they're just too stupid to let it happen.

I'll return there but I will have to control myself and that ain't easy either. I am jealous of the guys who live in Cebu or spend a lot of time there. Those are the guys who have the time to wait out the bullshit and find the choice Cebuanas to fuck. Those Cebuanas will always be in my mind, clearly the most beautiful Filipinos are there.

Happy New Year!

[QUOTE=Socker;1821272]I am jealous of the guys who live in Cebu or spend a lot of time there. Those are the guys who have the time to wait out the bullshit and find the choice Cebuanas to fuck. Those Cebuanas will always be in my mind, clearly the most beautiful Filipinos are there.

Happy New Year![/QUOTE]Cebuana. Enjoy!

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;1822527]Cebuana. Enjoy![/QUOTE]HNY Westie!

My Mango St ladies.

[QUOTE=Socker;1822839]HNY Westie!

My Mango St ladies.[/QUOTE]Great pics!

[QUOTE=Socker;1822839]HNY Westie![/QUOTE]Same, right back atcha! Long live the lovely, skinny, photogenic, round-assed cebuana.

I forgot this super spinner. She was amazing to look at, barely as high as the light switch.

Soon after these pics were taken she shut it down and I returned her to Vikings, she was a brand new BG.

On my last trip there (2013) a couple years after these were taken I saw her at Vikings and she looked terrible. That's every where.

And just dried up, kind of shocking to see how far she had fallen.

In 2010 she was breath taking, extremely petite, a one of a kind babe.

[QUOTE=Socker;1821272] Those Cebuanas will always be in my mind, clearly the most beautiful Filipinos are there.

Happy New Year![/QUOTE]I agree that the Cebuana does have a very good and distinctive look. For me I don't look to meet them in the bars though. There are the same pretty girls with much better attitudes in offices, in shops, in restaurants, in malls. They may not be dressed in bikini and heels when first meeting but they will still have the underlying beauty.

I can't wait to get back there.

BD.

[QUOTE=Socker;1823157]I forgot this super spinner. She was amazing to look at, barely as high as the light switch.[/QUOTE]You have the knack for spinners. This (extremely) shy cebuana is a bit more chubby / busty.

Thread's slowing down. Nobody with feet on the ground in Cebu?

Sorry for the late post. I departed Cebu city earlier this year.

Mango street: Geckos Bar and All Star Sports Bar. Both have live bands (some nights) and friendly female staff. All Star is the former Pussycats. At least one lady is still there from the girly bar past. Have a beer, flirt a bit, buy a drink, but that's about it. If you want to take things further, slip a lady your contact info.

The old Temptation Bar seems to be a KTV now. I didn't go inside. As reported earlier, RedLips is gone. On the same street, Cubano is a decent place to stop for a drink or some food. They have outdoor seating, usually with a live band. They have space indoors which is much like a smallish disco. I've never seen many people inside the "disco", but maybe I was too early.

The biggest surprise for me was Sisters Bar. The interior has been completely renovated since last time I was there in 2015. I have to say it is a big improvement and the vibe was also very different. The women tended to be slimmer than I remember and there seemed to be less drink pressure. I spied one petite dancer sitting offstage and busy putting on makeup at one of the mirrors. She apparently noticed my attention in the mirror as she turned to give me a coquettish little smile. Later when she stood up and walked away, looking at her in the dim lights, I thought she could be mistaken for a child, especially viewed from behind. Once she got on stage I could see she was probably well into her 30's, and had extensive tattooing. I suppose you'd have to be into tiny ladies to like her, but I found her combination of girlish cuteness along with the ink to be an interesting combination. Unfortunately, other commitments prevented me from buying her a drink and getting to know her.

Leyte (Ormoc) and Biliran (east coast) - will add info only if someone really needs it. X.

Had a family vacation on Mactan. My brother in law and I escaped on a Sunday afternoon having to be back by dinner. He wanted to see some Cebu bars. I had researched on ISG some of the Mactan bars given I have never really frequented the Mactan bar scene. Talking to the taxi driver he implied they all didn't open until 8 pm. So we hiked into Cebu city. Confirmed that Silver Dollar was shut. Ended up at All Star. Graham, the owner of All Star was also the owner of Silver Dollar. He was there at the time. So closure of Silver Dollar wasn't anything to do with health issues as reported here but simply poor business location. No girls working other than the core bar staff. Then headed up to El Geckos. They do have 4-5 girls working that sit with you. Brother in law was happy and we headed back to Mactan. Overall summary. No real daytime bar options in Cebu other than for a few drinks.

[QUOTE=MsAccount;1828641]SNIP> Ended up at All Star. Graham, the owner of All Star was also the owner of Silver Dollar. He was there at the time. So closure of Silver Dollar wasn't anything to do with health issues as reported here but simply poor business location. No girls working other than the core bar staff. [/QUOTE]I guess you mean "Lone Star" not "All Star".

I am glad to hear Graham is OK.

I always thought you could never re-invent Silver Dollar in another location, so it seems it has finally died.

Or he meant All Star Sports bar, which is where the old Pussycats was. I think All Star and Geckos are open in the afternoon.

[QUOTE=RedKilt;1828812]I guess you mean "Lone Star" not "All Star".

I am glad to hear Graham is OK.

I always thought you could never re-invent Silver Dollar in another location, so it seems it has finally died.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=XMan;1828820]Or he meant All Star Sports bar, which is where the old Pussycats was. I think All Star and Geckos are open in the afternoon.[/QUOTE]The bar next to Dimples amongst the Mango bars. That is All Star Sports Bar? I don't know Lone Star. Where is that?

[QUOTE=XMan;1828558]Westy, thanks for incentivizing me to finally make this post[/QUOTE]Welcome. Anything I can do to help, X.

And as always, watch out for flying bullets while in Cebu.

[QUOTE=MsAccount;1828894]The bar next to Dimples amongst the Mango bars. That is All Star Sports Bar? I don't know Lone Star. Where is that?[/QUOTE]My apologies. I didn't know about All Star.

Graham owned Lone Star which is in the street parallel to Mango aka Gen Maxilom and it is (was?) around the corner from Beverly Boutique Hotel close to the big Iglesia church. It was my favorite bar for more than 10 years.

Now I recall that someone may have said on here that Lone Star has CLOSED, so Graham may well have taken over All Star Sports Bar as a replacement.

It's a while since I was in Cebu so locals please step up and sort this one out.

Seems I don't get to post enough cebuanas here.

[QUOTE=RedKilt;1829225]My apologies. I didn't know about All Star.

Graham owned Lone Star which is in the street parallel to Mango aka Gen Maxilom and it is (was?) around the corner from Beverly Boutique Hotel close to the big Iglesia church. It was my favorite bar for more than 10 years.

Now I recall that someone may have said on here that Lone Star has CLOSED, so Graham may well have taken over All Star Sports Bar as a replacement.

It's a while since I was in Cebu so locals please step up and sort this one out.[/QUOTE]RK,

Graham has not been involved with Lone Star in a long time.

AFAIK Lone Star is still open, but IMO it was better back in the day.

Cheers.

[QUOTE=XMan;1828558]Leyte (Ormoc) and Biliran (east coast) - will add info only if someone really needs it. X.[/QUOTE]X,

I'm interested in your thoughts on Ormoc if you have the time.

I have never visited, but it's on my radar.

Cheers.

Went out the other night with another board member and did a bit of barhopping on Mango Ave. ; Sister's, Planet X, Eric the Red's, and Viking's. I have to say I was rather impressed with the quality of the girls at Sister's and Planet X. We went early so the selection was still good. The bars for the most part were not busy, but then again it was early and it was an off night (not a Friday or Saturday). I found a very hot looking tall and skinny girl with a great ass at one of the bars. The donation to the bar for the girl's EWR was 3,500 pesos.

Sister's had just opened and the girls were still getting ready. I seen a really cute little spinner who I plan to go back and get. As X previously reported, the bar has been completely renovated and I agree it's a significant improvement. The service bar is against the back wall now and the center stage is ringed in a semi-circle /"you" by comfy sofa's. Local drinks were 100 pesos each; single LD's were 180 pesos.

At first Planet X was empty, but at about 8:30 pm things did seem to pick up a bit. 2 groups of K-poppers came in (separately) and of course they demanded a lineup. It was funny to watch the girls as you could readily see which ones were not into the K-boys; they would linger on the fringes of the semi-circle or even try to hide behind a column or behind the backs the other girls. OTH, it was also obvious which ones were anxious to be selected by the K-poppers as they would elbow their way to the front and center of the group. I was glad to see that the 2 girls I had "bookmarked" tried to hide. It wasn't my turn to pay, so no idea what drinks cost.

Eric's was dead and from what we could see the selection there was mediocre, we didn't stay.

Vikings had a mix of spinners to curvy and a few who were quite chubby. They danced solo with an occasional duo shuffling about on the stage and they would change after each song. A few did put on a good show and were good dancers. Local drinks were 100 peso; single LD's were 180 pesos.

Even though I have a string of girls I see here, I'll certainly go back another night to Sister's for the spinner. And most likely for a few others that I seen there and at Planet X too.

Sorry for the late reply. Ormoc is easy to get to from Cebu. I think this is the kind of place to use online sites, or maybe bring your own. I've done both. I'll add more later.

[QUOTE=StrokerAce88;1831295]X,

I'm interested in your thoughts on Ormoc if you have the time.

I have never visited, but it's on my radar.

Cheers.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=XMan;1834073]Sorry for the late reply. Ormoc is easy to get to from Cebu. I think this is the kind of place to use online sites, or maybe bring your own. I've done both. I'll add more later.[/QUOTE]Only 2 hours or so from Cebu from the port, pricing is fairly cheap also.

Irony Monger did some good FRs in 2013 on Ormoc and hotels, doubt if much has changed.

BYO yes but plenty cuties there just more provincial minded maybe.

I know a good MILF from Ormoc who likes Greek also (ad I also like her daughter LOL).

[QUOTE=RedKilt;1829225]My apologies. I didn't know about All Star. Graham owned Lone Star which is in the street parallel to Mango aka Gen Maxilom and it is (was?) around the corner from Beverly Boutique Hotel close to the big Iglesia church. It was my favorite bar for more than 10 years. Now I recall that someone may have said on here that Lone Star has CLOSED, so Graham may well have taken over All Star Sports Bar as a replacement. It's a while since I was in Cebu so locals please step up and sort this one out.[/QUOTE]I finally visited Lone Star. Started off at Volvo then ventured to Jave then wandered down to Mango bars and finally walked to Lone Star as Red Kilt described the location above. Apparently Graham used to be partner but sold out and Alastair (Aussie) is still owner. Stage in middle with girls dancing. Fairly basic looking girls but friendly waitresses. So Lone Star is still kicking.

[QUOTE=MsAccount;1848543]I finally visited Lone Star. Started off at Volvo then ventured to Jave then wandered down to Mango bars and finally walked to Lone Star as Red Kilt described the location above. Apparently Graham used to be partner but sold out and Alastair (Aussie) is still owner. Stage in middle with girls dancing. Fairly basic looking girls but friendly waitresses. So Lone Star is still kicking.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the up-date Ms A.

I am glad LS is still kicking, as I always had a good time there and always managed to find someone to my liking.

I am trying to imagine what "basic-looking girls" means but as always, YMMV.

[QUOTE=RedKilt;1848652]I am trying to imagine what "basic-looking girls" means but as always, YMMV.[/QUOTE]A little bit older, a little bit chubbier but maybe a little bit friendlier.

Visited the Mango bar scene three times on my recent trip. The memory and observation skills of the bar girls never ceases to amaze me. Remembering your name from a previous visit when I didn't even remember talking to them is not uncommon. I met up with a non P4 P girl I have known for 2 years who brought her friend. Her friend says to me I have met you before. I said no I don't remember you. Turns out she was working in one of the Mango bars and recognised me from visiting her bar.

I will concur with other reports Sisters has improved its talent pool.

Cebu.

I will share my experience from last visit In Cebu.

1. Massage.

My first idea was some massage parole. Because you can't be sure that you have something more then simple HJ at the end, I read this forum and chose the places with guaranty of BJ as "happy ending" Massage 4 You.

Taxi driver have some problem to find the place, but I didn't expect what I will see.

This place is total shithole. It's like Russians *house for truck drivers in deep Siberia (dirty room with box made of material curtain. It's take me 10 second to turn around and move out quickly. This place have good review on this site, but it is (very) low standard place for some brave (and desperate) man.

2. Clubs (Sister's, Planet X, Viking's etc).

I went in all this club (7 or 8). They are very close one from another.

In my opinion it isn't best option if you looking for some lady companion.

First of all, When you enter the club (no meter which one) it's Open Season for hunting and you are the walking target.

Because you pay upfront, in my opinion it is not best option. In my experience, the girls try best before money change hands. When you (already) pay, your only leverage is tips at the end. That's why I recommend point 3.

3. Girls outside J. Ave.

In this place situation change. You're on the hunt, and girls are (easy) target. It's easy, because almost all of that girls sitting outside looking for companion. The price is about 2,500 (you can negotiate).

Why it's better then looking in the Clubs inside.

A) You can look freely, no drinks to buy (as entry ticket), no hidden cost.

B) When you find some companion, you can speak with her and try to negotiate (what you want, how much it will cost you etc). There is no fix price, no "bar fee".

C) You can pay at the end. You have control on that meeting. For example, when my companion try to play "you pay for only one shot", I play the same game "you try renegotiate our agreement, OK- I can renegotiate the money". It's working.

Choice (selection) of girls in my opinion they looks more amateurish than those in clubs.

There is only one danger Ladyboys. Some of them look magnificent, and it is really easy to make mistake.

Face, boob's, figure, hair, timbre of voice there is no clue, there look and speak like girl. Choose wisely.

[QUOTE=Zdzichu;1854480] ...........................Girls outside J. Ave.
In this place situation change. You're on the hunt, and girls are (easy) target. It's easy, because almost all of that girls sitting outside looking for companion. The price is about 2,500 (you can negotiate).

There is only one danger Ladyboys. Some of them look magnificent, and it is really easy to make mistake.[/QUOTE]There is another danger. Of theft from your room. You do not know where they live or their real name etc, that is they can disappear, with your valuables. Ones hanging around outside can be bar girls freelancing. Significant number of girls inside disco are not hookers. Be careful.

Has anyone been to the Mactan bar lately? Like Mermaids ect. ? I know there are more expensive than Mangos area.

Also has anyone been to the mango bars lately?

Just wondering how things are now have not been to that area In a couple of years.

[QUOTE=Beach1708;1870693] has anyone been to the mango bars lately?[/QUOTE]Its golden week holiday in Japan. Not a good week in the bars and ktvs. Just headed out for a drink only. One regular bar I visit that normally has 10 to 15 girls sitting on the lounge waiting; lounge was empty. The Japanese are hoovering up whoever is available. Good for the girls / bars. I presume it is the same in manila.

[QUOTE=XMan;1834073]Sorry for the late reply. Ormoc is easy to get to from Cebu. I think this is the kind of place to use online sites, or maybe bring your own. I've done both. I'll add more later.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info XM.

[QUOTE=WickedRoger;1834077]Only 2 hours or so from Cebu from the port, pricing is fairly cheap also.

Irony Monger did some good FRs in 2013 on Ormoc and hotels, doubt if much has changed.

BYO yes but plenty cuties there just more provincial minded maybe.

I know a good MILF from Ormoc who likes Greek also (ad I also like her daughter LOL).[/QUOTE]WR,

I have IR's Ormoc FR's booked-marked, thanks for the reminder.

[QUOTE=Zdzichu;1854480]Cebu.

I will share my experience from last visit In Cebu.

1. Massage.

My first idea was some massage parole. Because you can't be sure that you have something more then simple HJ at the end, I read this forum and chose the places with guaranty of BJ as "happy ending" Massage 4 You.

Taxi driver have some problem to find the place, but I didn't expect what I will see.

This place is total shithole. It's like Russians *house for truck drivers in deep Siberia (dirty room with box made of material curtain. It's take me 10 second to turn around and move out quickly. This place have good review on this site, but it is (very) low standard place for some brave (and desperate) man.[/QUOTE]Where did you go? You didn't name the place.

[QUOTE]2. Clubs (Sister's, Planet X, Viking's etc).

I went in all this club (7 or 8). They are very close one from another.

In my opinion it isn't best option if you looking for some lady companion.

First of all, When you enter the club (no meter which one) it's Open Season for hunting and you are the walking target.

Because you pay upfront, in my opinion it is not best option. In my experience, the girls try best before money change hands. When you (already) pay, your only leverage is tips at the end. That's why I recommend point 3.

3. Girls outside J. Ave.

In this place situation change. You're on the hunt, and girls are (easy) target. It's easy, because almost all of that girls sitting outside looking for companion. The price is about 2,500 (you can negotiate).

Why it's better then looking in the Clubs inside.

A) You can look freely, no drinks to buy (as entry ticket), no hidden cost.

B) When you find some companion, you can speak with her and try to negotiate (what you want, how much it will cost you etc). There is no fix price, no "bar fee".

C) You can pay at the end. You have control on that meeting. For example, when my companion try to play "you pay for only one shot", I play the same game "you try renegotiate our agreement, OK- I can renegotiate the money". It's working.

Choice (selection) of girls in my opinion they looks more amateurish than those in clubs.

There is only one danger Ladyboys. Some of them look magnificent, and it is really easy to make mistake.

Face, boob's, figure, hair, timbre of voice there is no clue, there look and speak like girl. Choose wisely.[/QUOTE]This has to be up there for the "worst FR ever" award.

-If you make a deal with a freelancer and she goes back on her word when she's in the room, just pay her what you agreed upon. Do NOT try and renegotiate the deal. You might think you have the upper hand because you have the money and she's poor but it's the other way around. I know a guy that tried it, and in the end cost him several hundred thousand php to make the fake charges disappear. Pay her the agreed upon price, send her on her way, and find someone else.

-So according to the OP barfining a GRO is not the way to go to get NSA company. Many guys (myself included on occasion) barfine and usually have very good experiences. Sure there can be "issues" when you barfine but that's just the way things go sometimes.

[QUOTE=StrokerAce88;1879142]Where did you go? You didn't name the place..[/QUOTE]I wrote the name- it is "Massage 4 You". This place was mentioned / recommended on his forum.

[QUOTE=StrokerAce88;1879142]
This has to be up there for the "worst FR ever" award.

-If you make a deal with a freelancer and she goes back on her word when she's in the room, just pay her what you agreed upon. Do NOT try and renegotiate the deal. You might think you have the upper hand because you have the money and she's poor but it's the other way around. I know a guy that tried it, and in the end cost him several hundred thousand php to make the fake charges disappear. Pay her the agreed upon price, send her on her way, and find someone else.

-So according to the OP barfining a GRO is not the way to go to get NSA company. Many guys (myself included on occasion) barfine and usually have very good experiences. Sure there can be "issues" when you barfine but that's just the way things go sometimes.[/QUOTE]Can you explain what you mean?

I don't know this name: FR, OP, GRO, NSA I'm new in this "activity".

And I don't understand what you suggest: "just pay her what you agreed upon".

If I agree on one night (long time few "action") and girl wants all money just after first "shot", shot I pay for her (in your opinion)? I reminder her our agreement (X money but after all night, not after one "shot".

I didn't renegotiate the contract, I just don't agree to swindle me. I still want pay the same amount of money, but after the long time.

I she prefer short time and want leave after the first "shot" OK, but in my opinion it is new agreement, and for short time market price is lower then for the all night.

[QUOTE=Zdzichu;1884273]I wrote the name- it is "Massage 4 You". This place was mentioned / recommended on his forum.

Can you explain what you mean?

I don't know this name: FR, OP, GRO, NSA I'm new in this "activity".

And I don't understand what you suggest: "just pay her what you agreed upon".

If I agree on one night (long time few "action") and girl wants all money just after first "shot", shot I pay for her (in your opinion)? I reminder her our agreement (X money but after all night, not after one "shot".

I didn't renegotiate the contract, I just don't agree to swindle me. I still want pay the same amount of money, but after the long time.

I she prefer short time and want leave after the first "shot" OK, but in my opinion it is new agreement, and for short time market price is lower then for the all night.[/QUOTE]It seems you are of the 'Manager' class, consequently you will have problems wherever you go. Payment of the $20 membership fee might assist in gaining the juicy inside info necessary for successful whoring.

[QUOTE=Zdzichu I wrote the name- it is "Massage 4 You". This place was mentioned / recommended on his forum.

Can you explain what you mean?

I don't know this name: FR, OP, GRO, NSA I'm new in this "activity".

Field Report.

Ocean Pacific.

Guest Relations Officer.

National Security Agency.

[QUOTE=Sxxxx;1884613]It seems you are of the 'Manager' class, consequently you will have problems wherever you go. Payment of the $20 membership fee might assist in gaining the juicy inside info necessary for successful whoring.[/QUOTE]What's your point?

You want to share some knowledge or just try to be clever guy" on the forum?

How paying the membership will help me with girls who try to renegotiate the deal?

One more time because you didn't read carefully. It wasn't my idea to renegotiate the deal.

The girl try to take money for long time, and do the short time (one "finish" and over).

This is one of my all time favorite bars in the entire country, formally known as Liza's Sea Fun Pub. Not much has changed with Liza still at the helm. They have added a live band and the lead singer is quite the spinner with a Daisy Duke outfit on and Medusa-like hair! The night I stopped in there were about a dozen GRO'S most with above average looks.

This place is a little difficult to find. Located in Mandaue, about a five minute walk from the Metro Park hotel. Tell the cab driver to head for MANPARK Cemetary and never ever try to go here during All Saints holiday. Shot many photos but I'm only including the signage, to protect the innocent. They have a FB page.

[QUOTE=BukoMax;1900504]This is one of my all time favorite bars in the entire country, formally known as Liza's Sea Fun Pub. Not much has changed with Liza still at the helm. They have added a live band and the lead singer is quite the spinner with a Daisy Duke outfit on and Medusa-like hair! The night I stopped in there were about a dozen GRO'S most with above average looks.

This place is a little difficult to find. Located in Mandaue, about a five minute walk from the Metro Park hotel. Tell the cab driver to head for MANPARK Cemetary and never ever try to go here during All Saints holiday. Shot many photos but I'm only including the signage, to protect the innocent. They have a FB page.[/QUOTE]When called Liza's Sea Fun Pub (hell what a name, LOL) . They were raided by Police, and from that point on it was reported that you could not barfine the girls. Did you barfine girls? I believe you still can not barfine girls, not sure. Did you barfine girls?

What is the new name?

Useless for newbies trying to find the place if you can not barfine, LOL.

Oh I see, Liza's is now called BHP.

[QUOTE=Sxxxx;1900546]When called Liza's Sea Fun Pub (hell what a name, LOL) . They were raided by Police, and from that point on it was reported that you could not barfine the girls. Did you barfine girls? I believe you still can not barfine girls, not sure.[/QUOTE]Was with my crew of girls and in all the excitement, did not ask Liza about BF. Yes she spent a few days in jail and thus the name change. But since it is a GRO type bar, what you do is between you and the girl.

[QUOTE=BukoMax;1903765]Was with my crew of girls and in all the excitement, did not ask Liza about BF. Yes she spent a few days in jail and thus the name change. But since it is a GRO type bar, what you do is between you and the girl.[/QUOTE]Owner would not let girls she is paying to extract ladies drinks etc off the premises without cashing in. Owner would not let girls exit bar on the arms of a foreigner and thus risk imprisonment again.

Guys you could take a long shot and ask girl to call at your hotel room next day, before she starts work. But first you have to find the place. Need Liaza's latest cellphone number, taxi driver calls her, she directs him to location, using local language. Problem always was. Taxi drivers not knowing the place. More so now with name change. Suggest you use old name in addition to new one.

Frustrating, when you have attractive girls, but cannot take them with you, then and there. 'Tomorrow' is not good enough for me. High attrition rate with that m. O. Too.

Liza has a different idea of fun, to me, LOL.

This is for Stroker or anyone else with boots on the ground. Has anything like Silver Dollar sprung up in the same general area? Geez I miss that place. And it was so close to Mandarin where I normally stay. Replies appreciated.

Just want to give back to the forum on my experiences of a few days in Cebu.

Took a nice girl, Clara from Lonestar and she was a solid performer in the bedroom. Despite heading there a few times that place never seems to get busy possibly due to its location but also because they only have around 8 girls. Only 2 of them attractive in my view.

Be G next door to Viking was one of my favorite places and there was a couple I'd have taken if I had the chance. One who was all over me and with her tongue down my throat would have been in my bed but could only do ST due to mothering duties. Others were busy while I was there. On the first night there I was talking to a cute waitress there and bought her a couple of drinks and asked her about barfining her and she said it was 5000 ! WTF? Apparently the waitresses go for more than the dancer despite most of the waitresses standing around with nothing to do. I guess this is one of those things that us foreigners are just not meant to understand.

Viking was quite good on a Monday night, especially for low season, there were quite a number of nice friendly girls but I didn't partake as I had a girl from Blendr on the go.

Planet X had some real lookers but was largely a waste of money if you aren't Korean. When the Koreans roll in all the best girls make a beeline for them and the rest of us are left with the dregs. I won't be back.

Heard some good things about AllStar bar and have to say that I don't get it. Very ordinary girls, albeit mostly friendly. We preferred Howling Dogs up the road for an early drink. Lots of FL wander in and out.

Went to some other places like Sisters and thought it was boring and expensive. Other places just aren't worth the time to talk about.

Thought I'd give a field report on two Mactan bars I haven't see much written about lately: Frolics and More. Went to them with my girl recently.

Both are on Basak-Marigondon Rd, just after the old bridge. From Cebu take the old bridge aka Osmena Bridge and keep going straight, More and Frolics will be on your right in a few minutes as the road starts to curve. If you see Jollibee you have gone WAY too far.

Frolics.

Foreigner bar, 6 dancers (5-7's on the looks scale) 2 bartenders, one mama working, and only 1 other customer besides me and my girl when we arrived around 10:30 pm. The girls say that it is often very slow like this.

Local drinks: SML 85, tequila shots 150.

Lady drinks: 200.

BF: 2800 (2000 to the girl, 800 to the bar). Tips appreciated but not expected.

More.

The bar called "More" is just down the street from Frolics towards the bridge. There were a bunch of motorcycles parked outside. Walked in, and had to pay 60 for my girl at the door. Turns out it's a pinoy bar. Over 50 customers and at least 15+ girls dancing in shifts, mostly 6-8's. Very crowded. Was the only foreigner there, got a few stares going in, but sat down and ordered a beer and everything was fine.

I forgot to write down exactly how much local drinks were here, but I remember they were pretty cheap.

Lady drinks: 200 for a small, 400 for a large.

According to the girl we bought a drink for, "there is no barfine here, only penalty of 3500". When pressed, she admited that the "penalty" for leaving work early is split between the girl and the bar (a barfine by another name). She also said that most the local customers just drink beer and watch the girls dance, unless a rich pinoy comes in and spends 10 k+ and takes home a couple girls.

[QUOTE=IronyMonger;1913428]Thought I'd give a field report on two Mactan bars I haven't see much written about lately: Frolics and More. Went to them with my girl recently.

Frolics.
Foreigner bar, 6 dancers (5-7's on the looks scale) 2 bartenders, one mama working, and only 1 other customer besides me and my girl when we arrived around 10:30 pm. The girls say that it is often very slow like this.

[/QUOTE]Did you meet the owner of Frolics? I am wondering if Steve from Washington state is the owner. He had another bar near Love City, but I think he sold that one for this one.

Did you happen to catch the name of the owner? I wonder if Steve, from Washington state, owns it. He used to have a bar near Fuente Osmena, near Love city, but sold that one for another on Mactan Island. Anyone know?

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;1823075]Same, right back atcha! Long live the lovely, skinny, photogenic, round-assed cebuana.[/QUOTE]Nice! That ass looks the same like the girl I am meeting some times when in Cebu, she got any tats?

I've visited Cebu several times over the past 14 years, and I've never developed any affinity for the place. I've always felt it was a sort of mini Manila without the redeeming qualities of Greenbelt and BGC. I'm just wrapping up a brief visit here that's confirmed this perspective, and again I'm wondering what so many people appear to see in this place that I just don't see.

Last night, accompanied by a buddy who lives here (and who is leaving since he's decided he really doesn't like it much), I hit many of the bars on and around the Mango area: Planet X, Sisters, Eric the Red, Vikings, and a bunch on the other side of the street. There were very few customers in most of the bars. Though I realize that tastes in women differ widely, neither my friend nor I saw anyone that either of us would even consider. The bars were fairly shabby, lacking in much energy, and in general not much fun.

For the sake of nostalgia, we wound up the evening at Lone Star, which had at least as many available women as any of the other bars visited. Though the mood was a bit more relaxed, the options on offer were equally dis-spiriting, and we left after a single drink.

I'm told by my friend that our tour des boîtes was fairly typical of his last few visits, though granted a Tuesday evening may not have been the best time to have taken a random sample.

GE.

[QUOTE=GoodEnough;1942630]I hit many of the bars on and around the Mango area: Planet X, Sisters, Eric the Red, Vikings, and a bunch on the other side of the street. There were very few customers in most of the bars. Though I realize that tastes in women differ widely, neither my friend nor I saw anyone that either of us would even consider. The bars were fairly shabby, lacking in much energy, and in general not much fun.... told by my friend that our tour des botes was fairly typical of his last few visits, though granted a Tuesday evening may not have been the best time to have taken a random sample.[/QUOTE]I have been hitting Mango bars at least two nights per month for the last year (and every three months prior to that). Mainly with no expectations other than having a few drinks. About 10% of the time I stumble upon someone worth barfining. So I concur with your opinion. You would not come to Cebu for the P4 P bar scene. The bar with the best lookers is Planet X but this bar has a clear Korean bias. But to be fair to Cebu, the Cebu bar scene is far better than the Davao scene. From what I see from other FR's there is really no acceptable P4 P bar scene outside of AC and Manila. Maybe others will counter with Subic, Puerto Galera etc. It raises the question why cities like Cebu don't have better quality local girls working in the P4P scene (either bars or KTV's). When I talk to Burgos girls, the majority do not tell their family exactly what job they are doing. So I think working in the bar scene in your local town is probably too close to home for most girls. Just my thought.

I stayed a few days in Lapu Lapu (I have built up quite a few chatmates I see from Lapu Lapu). On a Sunday night I ventured out to Club Mermaid. It is tricky to find. It is set back from the main road from the airport to the new bridge with poor signage on the main road so unless you look down the driveway you can't see it easily. Maybe Sunday is not a good guide. But there was probably 10 girls. They tended to only dance when there were enough customers (or the right customers as after a big group left they stopped dancing on the stage). I was offered a show up of 3 girls which was fairly sad. For research purposes I did buy one girl a drink. Forget the price sorry. But overall there was nothing to encourage me to come back but the girl assured me Friday / Saturday was much better. Next I tried VIP Club. This is a mini Arena KTV style with a large public stage area. VIP Club is on the road to Shang past the runway. So it is a fair hike from Lapu Lapu city. There was 18 girls (every hour they have full girl display on stage). There were 2 girls I would have chosen. Sat with one for 600 per hour. Didn't barfine but my memory was it was 5000. VIP club would probably be the highest quality lineup on Mactan.

[QUOTE=MsAccount;1943517]I have been hitting Mango bars at least two nights per month for the last year (and every three months prior to that). Mainly with no expectations other than having a few drinks. About 10% of the time I stumble upon someone worth barfining. So I concur with your opinion. You would not come to Cebu for the P4 P bar scene. The bar with the best lookers is Planet X but this bar has a clear Korean bias. But to be fair to Cebu, the Cebu bar scene is far better than the Davao scene. From what I see from other FR's there is really no acceptable P4 P bar scene outside of AC and Manila. Maybe others will counter with Subic, Puerto Galera etc. It raises the question why cities like Cebu don't have better quality local girls working in the P4P scene (either bars or KTV's). When I talk to Burgos girls, the majority do not tell their family exactly what job they are doing. So I think working in the bar scene in your local town is probably too close to home for most girls. Just my thought.[/QUOTE]After more than a decade here, and several trips to Cebu, I question why anyone would choose to live there. The air quality is not good; it's running out of water; the traffic is approaching a Manila standard, and the bars suck. I fail to get the allure.

I'm settled in Davao with a long-term asawa and I never hit the bars, but I've heard from others confirming your point, that they're not very good. However, there are women all over the place here, easily approachable, and from what I can see, the quality of life in Davao beats Cebu hands down. Of course I know this town and I really don't know Cebu well, so perhaps my comparisons are invalid.

GE.

[QUOTE=GoodEnough;1943543]After more than a decade here, and several trips to Cebu, I question why anyone would choose to live there. I fail to get the allure.[/QUOTE]The Vikings bars have better-looking bars than most of the AC bars. However, there is a large barfine (p3 k I think), considering its Cebu; similar to Atlantis in AC.

The draw for me are two things that don't involve those bars:

1) The girls who hang around in the J Ave area, and.

2) Regular girls, either from dating sites, or referrals (from my regular girls or from you good BM's). This second category has been a serious windfall for me the last several years (as seen in the PG, page 28, post #8026 / backdoor adventure). The girl in the pic is from a dating site and has been with me for many years now. When I'm in Cebu, she stays with me every night (unless I tell her to take a night off). She goes home to her parents, siblings, and kids, and to her boyfriend, who lives with the family, when they are 'on'. Every morning she goes home to her kids and mom, and she, her mom, and one of her sisters goes to church 4-7 days per week in the mornings before lunch (crazy for church, her FB gets updated with pics of her at church or on church missions several times / week). She has brought me to the family home several times (when she is in an 'off' period with the boyfriend / father of her kids). She rarely speaks, seems constantly happy, and she's pretty. She has never once asked me what I do in the daytime when she's gone home. Yes that's my other playtime with my other regulars, who tend to bring more regulars (and thanks WR for your little hottie referral).

The city is filled with prettier girls than Manila (IMHO), who are slightly less sophisticated and more accepting of doing anything that I want when they are with me (sex, staying in, going out, they rarely suggest a bar or restaurant, happy with whatever I choose). And regular cebuanas are happy (giddy) with half the pesos of her Manila counterparts in the morning.

GE is right about traffic and such, but Cebu (for me) is a place I can go to (without telling anyone in advance) and be assured there will be a girl in my bed not only nightly, but also a different girl in the daytime, or no girl at all when I want a day off.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;1944797]1) The girls who hang around in the J Ave area, and.

2) Regular girls, either from dating sites, or referrals (from my regular girls or from you good BM's). This second category has been a serious windfall for me the last several years
Yes that's my other playtime with my other regulars, who tend to bring more regulars (and thanks WR for your little hottie referral).

The city is filled with prettier girls than Manila (IMHO), who are slightly less sophisticated and more accepting of doing anything that I want when they are with me (sex, staying in, going out, they rarely suggest a bar or restaurant, happy with whatever I choose).

GE is right about traffic and such, but Cebu (for me) is a place I can go to (without telling anyone in advance) and be assured there will be a girl in my bed not only nightly, but also a different girl in the daytime, or no girl at all when I want a day off.[/QUOTE]We all have different flavors but I prefer Cebu over say Manila but I also like Davao but I just gravitate there for the reasons you say. But I also know Davao is equally nice and the traffic is way better. Traffic is a pain at certain times so 4-7 pm around Ayala Center and SM are unpleasant. It is not all day IMHO and I have taken 2 hrs to go from Makati to Ortigas so that has never happened to me in Cebu but I admit Davao is so much less stress and delay. The main road to Country Mall and Banilad can be slow for sure (is why Pip J drives a motorbike not a car when he is there), going to Tamaban at say 630 pm can take a while but again is not like Manila and is acceptable to me (while it could be not so great for others).

Referrals always best and I have never used a dating site in years or go to bars unless am going with friends. Am not a great person for bars / loud music and smoke. I have been to Alcohology and J Ave plus other clubs for short time. Plenty pickings if you have time etc but referrals best (is how I got to know that hottie WR and still do and she has friends also).

IMO the hottest lookers I've seen in the PI have been in (Cebu) Mango St bars. I have little experience in Cebu, only Ayala Mall and Mango St bars on 3 or 4 trips but I ended up taking Cebu out of my PI rotation a couple of years ago. I took it out because the Mango St bars (Vikings etc) are full of DDG dr**k s**ts that have total power over me. I mean some of these women were incredible looking but they were out to hustle and lie for drinks only.

They are also very Asian oriented so you are in their bar being ignored and some Ks walk in and the ladies go crazy over them. It's just unpleasant and disappointing. They'd make more money w / me (in most cases) but they are adverse to westerners in the extreme, so I don't go there anymore.

But you guys have me thinking about the place again. The Cebuanas are hotter than their Manila counterparts but the Manila ladies treat me w / respect and affection.

Never been to Davao. Is there a vibrant bar scene there WR? I only have time for BGs or SGs, I want to see and talk w / them before I make a purchase.

Cheers Guysg

[QUOTE=Socker;1947949]IMO the hottest lookers I've seen in the PI have been in (Cebu) Mango St bars. I have little experience in Cebu, only Ayala Mall and Mango St bars on 3 or 4 trips but I ended up taking Cebu out of my PI rotation a couple of years ago. I took it out because the Mango St bars (Vikings etc) are full of DDG dr**k s**ts that have total power over me. I mean some of these women were incredible looking but they were out to hustle and lie for drinks only.

They are also very Asian oriented so you are in their bar being ignored and some Ks walk in and the ladies go crazy over them. It's just unpleasant and disappointing. They'd make more money w / me (in most cases) but they are adverse to westerners in the extreme, so I don't go there anymore.

But you guys have me thinking about the place again. The Cebuanas are hotter than their Manila counterparts but the Manila ladies treat me w / respect and affection.

Never been to Davao. Is there a vibrant bar scene there WR? I only have time for BGs or SGs, I want to see and talk w / them before I make a purchase.

Cheers Guysg[/QUOTE]Socker,

I prefer my regulars and office girls / students as you know. I have been to the bars in Mango and the clubs where the Cebuanas are very tasty at times. I prefer the latter to bars for many reasons that you know.

The bar scene in Davao. Not sure as not been there much and when I did I already had some one with me or was pre arranged. But there used to some good clubs (maybe GE can assist more).

But next time you arrive try the non BGs etc as they are great fun, won't lie (well not as much) and are great company in and out of bed LOL.

As for treating you with respect you know money does help in that also my friend LOL. AM always treated with respect because am so good looking and have the body of an Adonis LOL.

[QUOTE=WickedRoger;1948141]Socker,

I prefer my regulars and office girls / students as you know. I have been to the bars in Mango and the clubs where the Cebuanas are very tasty at times. I prefer the latter to bars for many reasons that you know.

The bar scene in Davao. Not sure as not been there much and when I did I already had some one with me or was pre arranged. But there used to some good clubs (maybe GE can assist more).

But next time you arrive try the non BGs etc as they are great fun, won't lie (well not as much) and are great company in and out of bed LOL.

As for treating you with respect you know money does help in that also my friend LOL. AM always treated with respect because am so good looking and have the body of an Adonis LOL.[/QUOTE]Yeah I know how you guys operate and that you're happy but I prefer point and click at the bars. I like the J Ave pick up scene too, sitting there and enjoying the craziness. I hope it's still going on.

The disrespect thing happens a lot in Cebu bars (by the stunners) but not in AC or Makati. The ladies in the latter 2 places are naturally fun to be around w / out over the top hustling. So if I lived there or spent more time there I would probably try your methods but I have a small window and I want the young honeys who are ready to go. I see them, talk to them and then decide.

I'm heading to El Salvador in 3 hours so a bit off center. El Salvador is not like the Philippines. All the doormen have shotguns where I'm going, no exaggeration. Drinking some wine now.

[QUOTE=Socker;1947949]IMO the hottest lookers I've seen in the PI have been in (Cebu) Mango St bars. I have little experience in Cebu, only Ayala Mall and Mango St bars on 3 or 4 trips but I ended up taking Cebu out of my PI rotation a couple of years ago. I took it out because the Mango St bars (Vikings etc) are full of DDG dr**k s**ts that have total power over me. I mean some of these women were incredible looking but they were out to hustle and lie for drinks only.
.......
Never been to Davao. Is there a vibrant bar scene there WR? I only have time for BGs or SGs, I want to see and talk w / them before I make a purchase.
[/QUOTE]Maybe in past years Mango Bars had the hottest lookers but certainly that is not the case now. You cannot compare the Cebu P4 P scene with Burgos. But totally agree, the Korean / Japanese bias in the key good looker bars (Viking / PlanetX / Kampai) is demoralising. Mango visitors might not be aware of Kampai. It is about 100 metres down the side street where El Geckos is and you can't really see it from the main street if you look down the side street. The name gives away its bias but it does have some good looking girls. Planet X is still my favorite bar because it serves foreign beers, the only one I know that does in Cebu.

As for Davao compared to Cebu, there was some discussion in this thread between GoodEnough and I.

[QUOTE=Socker;1948335]Yeah I know how you guys operate and that you're happy but I prefer point and click at the bars. I like the J Ave pick up scene too, sitting there and enjoying the craziness. I hope it's still going on.

The disrespect thing happens a lot in Cebu bars (by the stunners) but not in AC or Makati. The ladies in the latter 2 places are naturally fun to be around w / out over the top hustling. So if I lived there or spent more time there I would probably try your methods but I have a small window and I want the young honeys who are ready to go. I see them, talk to them and then decide.

I'm heading to El Salvador in 3 hours so a bit off center. El Salvador is not like the Philippines. All the doormen have shotguns where I'm going, no exaggeration. Drinking some wine now.[/QUOTE]Socket,

You miss the point I think the disrespect does not happen to WR as he look handsome man aka Mr Gwapo so why disrespect a Brad Pitt lookalike as they know they won't get the chance often in their lives LOL.

Now in your case the AC Manlal girls are not as choosy or are short sighted etc and cannot discern handsomeness from the ugliest LOL.

BTW next time in Manila PM me.

Enjoy El Salvador and make sure the guns are pointed the right way LOL.

[QUOTE=WickedRoger;1948548]Socket,

You miss the point I think the disrespect does not happen to WR as he look handsome man aka Mr Gwapo so why disrespect a Brad Pitt lookalike as they know they won't get the chance often in their lives LOL.

Now in your case the AC Manlal girls are not as choosy or are short sighted etc and cannot discern handsomeness from the ugliest LOL.

BTW next time in Manila PM me.

Enjoy El Salvador and make sure the guns are pointed the right way LOL.[/QUOTE]You should come back home and start your comedic career, you always get me laughing. They get a lot of strange too! Save yourself some money haha! I'll be in touch next March.

LOL.

Hello folks.

I am heading back to cebu again in Dec. Last time I was there I took a girl with me and we headed to liv super club. I loved the music and the dj was playing some nice tunes. I did notice quite a lot of girls who were in groups but due the fact that I already had a girl with me it was hard to approach any of them.

The question I ask you folks is. Can you pick up girls at these clubs. Are they free lancers. What's the approach. Do you need to book a vip table.

Do help.

Tc.

G.

[QUOTE=Gunners1;1952623]Hello folks.

I am heading back to cebu again in Dec. Last time I was there I took a girl with me and we headed to liv super club. I loved the music and the dj was playing some nice tunes. I did notice quite a lot of girls who were in groups but due the fact that I already had a girl with me it was hard to approach any of them.

The question I ask you folks is. Can you pick up girls at these clubs. Are they free lancers. What's the approach. Do you need to book a vip table.

G.[/QUOTE]Anything is possible if you know what to do and say (plus have some cash). Having a VIP table will mark you out as someone with cash and that will attract a few FLS or just girls looking for a sugar daddy for the evening. I have picked a few at Liv, J Ave and Alcohology plus others (Basic) but I am not into loud music / smoke so I tend to be focused and won't spend too much time as prefer to have a private party not hang around and chat too much LOL. At times a few promo girls will be in the club selling tequila, brandy whatever, and they can be cute trust me (I knew a few). While they are working they can be persuaded LOL.

You know my details so message if you want further advice.

Red Lips has finally reopened in the last 3 weeks after shutdown in police raid late last year (or early this year?) Went there on Saturday night. Have transplanted a lot of girls from Viking and BG's (same owner) so line up was around 20+ girls. I was quite impressed with the new stage layout. Much larger than before. At 10 pm on Friday and Saturday they have show including display of all girls (I would have chosen 2 but just watched show). All up for old Red Lips fans it is well worth revisiting.

Hi,

I've seen references to Mango Square (which I can find on the map), Mango Street (which I can't find on the map), and Google maps seems to think there's a Mango Avenue but it keeps pointing to General Maxilom Avenue. When people talk about Mango / Mango street, do they actually mean Mango Square?

In a similar sense, I've seen J Ave and J Ave. Is this the name of a bar or a street? And if it's a street, what's the street actually called?

Last question (for the moment). Are there any FL bars (not clubs) in Cebu like LA Cafe in Manila? I've RTTF for the past couple of years and haven't seen anything mentioned. Maybe I should have read more?

Cheers in advance.

Mango is in fact General Maxilom Avenue. The mango trees are long gone unfortunately. J. Ave is a disco in a complex called Mango Square. It is the freelance place. The music is very loud, and it really doesn't get going until fairly late. You can find freelancers inside the disco as well as hanging around out front. BTW, not every gal is p4 p and not every gal is a real gal.

The area adjacent to J. Ave is under construction. Does anyone know what is planned for that spot?

[QUOTE=StevieW;1990501]Hi,

I've seen references to Mango Square (which I can find on the map), Mango Street (which I can't find on the map), and Google maps seems to think there's a Mango Avenue but it keeps pointing to General Maxilom Avenue. When people talk about Mango / Mango street, do they actually mean Mango Square?

In a similar sense, I've seen J Ave and J Ave. Is this the name of a bar or a street? And if it's a street, what's the street actually called?

Last question (for the moment). Are there any FL bars (not clubs) in Cebu like LA Cafe in Manila? I've RTTF for the past couple of years and haven't seen anything mentioned. Maybe I should have read more?

Cheers in advance.[/QUOTE]

Thanks for the post. I agree with your points. It's a much better setup than before. I stayed for only one beer because the staff kept pushing me to select a woman. But I would go back.

It's not called Red Lips anymore. It is Mango Bar.

[QUOTE=MsAccount;1973088]Red Lips has finally reopened in the last 3 weeks after shutdown in police raid late last year (or early this year?) Went there on Saturday night. Have transplanted a lot of girls from Viking and BG's (same owner) so line up was around 20+ girls. I was quite impressed with the new stage layout. Much larger than before. At 10 pm on Friday and Saturday they have show including display of all girls (I would have chosen 2 but just watched show). All up for old Red Lips fans it is well worth revisiting.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=XMan;1990551] J. Ave is a disco in a complex called Mango Square. It is the freelance place. The music is very loud, and it really doesn't get going until fairly late. You can find freelancers inside the disco as well as hanging around out front. BTW, not every gal is p4 p and not every gal is a real gal.

The area adjacent to J. Ave is under construction. Does anyone know what is planned for that spot?[/QUOTE]So J. Ave is a FL disco. But are there any FL bars in the style of LA Café? I liked LA Cafe as it wasn't loud and there's plenty of tables to sit at, unlike discos.

[QUOTE=StevieW;1990623]So J. Ave is a FL disco. But are there any FL bars in the style of LA Caf?[/QUOTE]No, there are no full-FL bars in Cebu like G-point or LAC. For J Ave, there are some FL both hanging around the tables out front, and also inside. However there are plenty of regular folk there also (both inside and outside), so careful what you say to various girls.

[QUOTE=StevieW;1990623]I liked LA Cafe as it wasn't loud and there's plenty of tables to sit at, unlike discos.[/QUOTE]That depends on time of day. By 10 pm the place has filled up and it can be difficult to find a seat. However, the waitresses will often clear a girl (s) off her seat to make room for a foreigner (s). But yes its less noisy than a disco like J Ave.

[QUOTE=XMan;1990551]J. Ave is a disco in a complex called Mango Square. It is the freelance place. The music is very loud, and it really doesn't get going until fairly late. You can find freelancers inside the disco as well as hanging around out front. BTW, not every gal is p4 p and not every gal is a real gal.
[/QUOTE]I have never had a positive result from going to J Ave (which is only about 6-7 times). So in my view JAVE is more general disco that FL. The last time I went on a Saturday night it was packed and impossible to call it a FL pick up joint. Maybe during the weekdays it is more obvious who are FL. My assessment is most of the girls sitting at the tables near the main entrance would be FL. I met a girl from a dating website who admitted Jave was her main income. So I was tempted to employ her one night to show me the ropes. But have not got around to it yet. Picking someone in a Mango bikini bar is a far easier option.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;1990735]No, there are no full-FL bars in Cebu like G-point or LAC. For J Ave, there are some FL both hanging around the tables out front, and also inside. However there are plenty of regular folk there also (both inside and outside), so careful what you say to various girls.[/QUOTE]Thanks. I usually lack the balls to go chat up a girl, so I much prefer these FL places. I'll go check it out in a few weeks. Cheers.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;1990735]That depends on time of day. By 10 pm the place has filled up and it can be difficult to find a seat. However, the waitresses will often clear a girl (s) off her seat to make room for a foreigner (s).[/QUOTE]Last time I was in Manila, it was only for 2 days / nights, I didn't really find it that difficult to find a seat in the evenings. I mean, yeah, it was busy, but even so.

[QUOTE=StevieW;1990877]Thanks. I usually lack the balls to go chat up a girl, so I much prefer these FL places. I'll go check it out in a few weeks. Cheers.

Last time I was in Manila, it was only for 2 days / nights, I didn't really find it that difficult to find a seat in the evenings. I mean, yeah, it was busy, but even so.[/QUOTE]Try LIV super club and Alcohology. Much the same as Jave but many office girls go there and many on the look out.

Try Monastery in Lahug also.

Have spent some time staying in Mactan so thought I would summarise my understanding of Mactan bar / clubs options starting with the biggest (no of girls).

Aurora KTV. Attached to Waterfront Airport Hotel. I wrote a FR a year ago. [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3301-Cebu-Bars&p=1791733&viewfull=1#post1791733[/URL] Been here twice but not recently. There was about 30 girls but my feeling was an anti Western bias. 410 per hour sitting fee plus standard drink price to buy girl a drink. 5000 barfine.

VIP Club. On the road to Shangrila from Lapu lapu city just before Bigfoot studios. I wrote a FR here. [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3301-Cebu-Bars&p=1943527#post1943527[/URL]. About 20 girls. Have been here 3 times and it is always empty. Last time I went at 10 pm and I was the first customer for the day. 600 per hour sitting fee plus drinks at standard prices. 5000 bar fine I think.

Club Sakura. Only open 6 months. Tricky to find. On the road going up to the airport maybe 100 metres from the main highway there is a road off to the right. Its 100 metres down that road. Maybe 20 girls. 450 per hour sitting fee plus standard drink price. Barfine is unusual - 3000 plus the sitting fee up until closing time of 3 am. So if you barfine at midnight total barfine would be 4350. Oriented towards Japanese / Korean.

Club Mermaid. The most famous of bars on Mactan. Multiple FR's here including mine in the link above. Talking to someone who had worked there a long time this was a real happening place 15+ years ago. They used to have the upstairs section active as well. Talking to a Burgos bar owner, the start of internet dating sites meant guys didn't need to go to bars as their sole pick up option and resulted in the demise of the bikini bar in the Philippines. I have barfined here one time but I forget the price. Only about 10-15 girls working and not generally very pretty.

Frolics and More. Have been to these two bars once based upon reading Irony Monger's FR here [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3301-Cebu-Bars&p=1913428&highlight=frolics#post1913428[/URL]. He has described in detail prices etc. I wouldn't go back to Frolics and More.

Have I missed any? There used to be FR's for White Castle. This FR ([URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3301-Cebu-Bars&p=1688973&highlight=white+castle#post1688973[/URL]) says it closed and the girls went to Star Club. I am not sure that exists anymore as well?

Just a summary of options if you are staying in Mactan. Alternative is to go to AS Fortuna Street in Mandaue which will be the subject of a future FR.

Nice FR Ms Account! Yeah you pretty much summed it up for Mactan. There are a few more (Angel's and Evening across from Super Metro) along with a few local joints. There used to be a local bar down the street from Mermaids that had plywood floors and plastic tables and chairs. Only checked the place out once and that was enough. Drove by the former White Castle mansion and it appears the are rehabbing the place. Have heard some skuttlebutt on a few other places both western and Japanese style but you have to be in the fold to find them.

Mandaue used to be a great place to barhop in bars like Club Harem, Goldfinger, Bullfrog and the infamous Int'l. Bar Complex. But due to the political climate, have been shuttered. Mostly KTV style bars there now but make sure you visit the Boat Haus, one of my favorite all time bars! Looking forward to your FR.

I have always seen all of these Clubs / KTV's on AS Fortuna Street from the taxi on the way to the airport. So over the last few trips to Cebu I have explored this street. Most of this information certainly has not been written up before.

To make it easier to summarise each place I will define a "pure" Japanese KTV as follows (as many follow this model):(1) sitting in an open public area but with discrete cubicles but still able to see stage (2) fixed amount per hour ranging from 400 pesos (some have a happy hour at this price) up to 600 pesos per hour that includes all you can drink (beers / whiskey / soft drinks / soju but no wine) and the company of one girl you pick from a show up (3) a girls drink usually cost 200 pesos but you don't have to buy a girls drink and they won't pester you to buy one (4) so realistically over an hour it would cost approx. 1000 pesos including two lady drinks (5) you have free entertainment of Japanese and Korean male customers going up to the stage and singing songs accompanied by their girl standing next to them clapping (6) the girl will have to follow strict rules like never sitting cross legged (Japanese men will think you are bad girl) other wise they get fined (7) there is strictly no barfine but depending on the girl they may give you their number if you ask or they may volunteer it with the convention they meet after closing or next day with 3000 fairly standard compensation. They don't seem to hide giving the number from the management and many places have specific name cards the girl writes their name and number on. I can't give a realistic assessment of how prevalent meeting customers outside is and whether it only pertains to certain places. Of the approx. 10 times I have visited these places I was given their number without asking maybe 6 times and I only actually met one. One only promised dinner and the other 4+ I wasn't really interested to pursue. (8) I have never saw a Westerner customer in these places but they tell me they do get them.

AS Fortuna Street is a few kilometres long. I will describe the places I have visited starting from the end closest to Mactan / Old Bridge:

Ferrari: this is not a pure Japanese KTV as described above. There have been a few FR's for this place including me. So I am not going to repeat the details refer back to those FR's. Ferrari does have girls dancing in two piece like a traditional Mango bar. Definite bias and favouritism towards Japanese / Koreans (like getting ignored).

Atami KTV (not walking distance from Ferrari) - cheaper pure Japanese KTV at 500 pesos per hour and 150 drink price. Run down and poorer selection of approx. 15 girls.

Lady Mysterious (long but walkable from Atami) - pure Japanese KTV at 600/200 pesos. Maybe 15 girls but an improvement in looks on Atami.

Club Hannabi (100 metres from Lady Mysterious) - not a pure Japanese KTV. It is 2000 pesos minimum charge per hour with drinks and food charged up against that minimum. Sitting with a girl will cost 800 pesos per hour which is included in the 2000 minimum charge but their drinks are standard prices as per menu. It would be hard to spend more than 2000 pesos in one hour so in effect the cost is 2000 pesos per hour for all food and drinks you can consume in one hour and one girl sitting with you. I usually sit in the public area but most customers go to a private room. Largest selection of girls in Cebu. I was told 110 work there but depending on what time you get there a show up might be 60-70 girls. This is a very busy place so the girls disappear quick. As you would expect with such a large volume of girls of course you get some decent looking girls. This is a bar fine place with 5500 bar fine. So combined with the 2000 per hour minimum charge this would mean 7500 to take a girl out which is comparable to Burgos. This I would have to add to the must visit places in Cebu given the volume and selection of girls.

Komachi KTV (taxi ride from Club Hannabi. I walked it once and it was too far) - a pure Japanese KTV with happy hour of 400 but usual 600 pesos. Seems more strict in not giving out numbers but that may have been the two girls I have met here. Maybe 20-25 girls and a few I would say were stunning (but always taken early).

Club Queen - (500 metres walking from Komachi) - pure Japanese KTV 600 per hour. Smaller with about 15 girls with lower quality girls than Komachi.

Club King (not exactly in AS Fortuna. A taxi ride around the corner opposite Country Mall) - a pure Japanese KTV with same owner as Club Queen with another one called Club Ace in Mabolo I have not been too. Quite large with maybe 30+ girls and definitely some I would have been interested in but all taken early.

There are other places in Mandaue other than AS Fortuna Street (like Boat Haus, SK2 and?) but this FR was more about AS Fortuna Street. I will defer Boat Haus to another FR.

So what is actionable from this FR? Ok maybe give the pure Japanese KTV's a miss. But Club Hannabi although expensive is a place to experience given the volume of girls.

The site that once was Papillon has been renovated and has reopened. It has a new name, but I don't remember what it is. I heard that they are paying the gals 500 per day, which means they will likely have some good talent.

I popped in but didn't stay. The layout is different. It is more brightly lit. The seating is sofa style, which is pretty common in Cebu and are better suited to large groups (I. E. , East Asians). There was no one on the dance floor. Again, it's common for Cebu. One or two dancers dance and then leave the dance floor. Sometimes it takes a minute for the next dancer to get up. It's pretty depressing if you've just come from AC where some bars have twenty or more girls on stage.

I'd like to go back for more research, but so far my phone contacts have provided me with plenty of fine women who come straight to my room.

Yesterday's gal is one I hadn't had for over five years. Wow, I knew there must be a good reason I'd kept in touch with her. What a wildcat in bed. Life is good.

[QUOTE=XMan;2005987]The site that once was Papillon has been renovated and has reopened. It has a new name, but I don't remember what it is. I heard that they are paying the gals 500 per day, which means they will likely have some good talent. I popped in but didn't stay. The layout is different. It is more brightly lit. The seating is sofa style, which is pretty common in Cebu and are better suited to large groups (I. E. , East Asians). There was no one on the dance floor. Again, it's common for Cebu. One or two dancers dance and then leave the dance floor. Sometimes it takes a minute for the next dancer to get up. It's pretty depressing if you've just come from AC where some bars have twenty or more girls on stage.[/QUOTE]The Filipino lady (who I have never met or seen in any of her bars) that was married to the now deceased Norwegian who started Vikings has taken over both Papillion and Dimples. Papillion has reopened as Mango Bar and Resto about a month ago completely remodelled as reported by Xman above. Dimples is currently under renovation. So this means she will be running 6 bars: Vikings, BG's, Erik the Red, the reopened Red Lips now called Mango Bar and Restaurant, the reopened Papillion also called Mango Bar and Resto and soon to reopen Dimples (presumably also to be called Mango Bar and Resto). The decor she uses is consistent across all bars: the orange sofa seats in an open fairly bright room. Both Papillion and Dimples were dark with many private dark corners. So no hanky panky in her bars. I think she is stretching her stable of girls too thin as evidenced by XMan's comment about the amount of girls dancing. Not sure her new bar naming strategy is a good idea. But I agree with XMan, the enthusiasm and energy in Cebu Mango bars is sad compared to Manila and AC. Has anyone ever met the original Norwegian man or met his wife now running the bars. I heard from girls that he was constantly drunk passed out on the Viking sofas.

[QUOTE=MsAccount;2006061]The Filipino lady (who I have never met or seen in any of her bars) that was married to the now deceased Norwegian who started Vikings has ..........................................[/QUOTE]Sure did meet him, Peter the Viking, as he was called. His original and only bar was further up Mango near corner of F. Ramos St (near start of Robinsons). He was usually drunk and very aggressive. We kept clear of him, he was not good company at neighboring bar to his, Kentucky Bar, where we all drank. Kentucky was the top bar of Cebu, top all time bar, ever (Cebu). For me personally anyway, LOL. Uncle Neil from Kentucky bar had to be airlifted back to Kentucky where he died. Phils kills, if you let it, LOL.

Time? Mid 1980's in my case. Around that time Peter was riding his motorbike, another bike came up along side him, two pinoys on board, passenger fired two shots into Peters body. He survived.

His eventual death, maybe 1990 or thereafter, was slow and painful. He became very thin and very sick. Nobody seemed to know his ailment. Once argumentative Peter was out of the way (dead) , story goes wife met another foreigner who put money up for beginning of current Mango bars. To me she was smart, cause with Peter it was one dormant bar. With him out of the way, she spread her wings and became the dominant bar owner around town.

Never met her. She might even be dead by now, and siblings running the show. Don't know, don't care. She's the force behind Vikings success anyway, not Peter.

[QUOTE=Sxxxx;2006081]Sure did meet him, Peter the Viking, as he was called. with Peter it was one dormant bar. With him out of the way, she spread her wings and became the dominant bar owner around town......Never met her. She might even be dead by now, and siblings running the show. Don't know, don't care. She's the force behind Vikings success anyway, not Peter.[/QUOTE]Wow good to get the exact history and correcting my mistaken impression he started Vikings. Talking to a bar owner in Burgos (he bought in 2001), his view is that the ability for guys to meet girls on the internet has destroyed the bikini bar. Maybe that is why the Koreans / Japanese dominate the KTV / bar scene as they don't have the ability to use dating sites as easily as English speakers. Sxxxx, would you say the pre internet era was better or worse for the goal of meeting prospective girls? Was bars the only source back in the 80/90's?

[QUOTE=MsAccount;2006224]Wow good to get the exact history and correcting my mistaken impression he started Vikings. Talking to a bar owner in Burgos (he bought in 2001), his view is that the ability for guys to meet girls on the internet has destroyed the bikini bar. Maybe that is why the Koreans / Japanese dominate the KTV / bar scene as they don't have the ability to use dating sites as easily as English speakers. Sxxxx, would you say the pre internet era was better or worse for the goal of meeting prospective girls? Was bars the only source back in the 80/90's?[/QUOTE]Peter to most, if not all, at Kentucky Bar, which was next door to Peters Viking Bar, and a nice guys Brown Bear bar (3 together) . Peter was in my opinion objectionable, when he drank at Kentucky. If ever I found myself sitting next to Peter, I just shut my mouth and smiled. Peter was gifted at starting an argument, LOL. Hence folks shooting him, and maybe poisoning him (thin, wasted away, died of 'unknown' causes).

Well, I am sure he started Vikings at the original and old location, further up Mango near corner of F. Ramos St. All three bars at that location, Kentucky, Vikings, Brown Bear were located on a 'squatters' block of land. Peter was the first out of the block to re-locate to where Vikings is today. He was the first to set up there, others followed over time. Kentucky and Brown Bear were eventually squeezed out to allow for 'development'.

So, I would credit Peter with the establishment of Vikings where it is today. But no credit for Vikings development. He scared people away from his bar, if anything, LOL.

Bar scene:

I arrived on the Phils sex scene early 1970's, been going there regularly ever since. Nice girls and pretty girls sold pussy via the bars and working girl houses (Casas) those days. Some freelancing too. Along came 'cable TV' , then Internet, and the gradual disappearance of really pretty girls with nice attitudes working in bars. Subjective, the way I see it.

In recent years these pretty girls are becoming a rare-ity in bars. Maybe its because I am now a 'fossil' , and not young myself nowadays. They don't see me, and I don't see them, LOL.

Its a question I keep asking myself: "Where have the pretty girls gone" ?

My theory is, nice girls in 2017 , do not have to stand in a skimpy bikini, publicly (bars) , and be stared at by all and sundry strangers anymore. Plus risk the chance of Police Raids, being hauled off to prisons. They must have a fear of their police raid mugshot showing up in newspapers, family and friends really do know what they are doing in that far away city, then. Nice looking girls can get on the dating sites, and even get money without having sex with anyone, and without bearing 'all' in a public beer house (bar). For the girl, its private and controlled via dating sites. No one knows she if fucking in hotels and making pussy money. Its discreet. And those Internet 'money for nothing' Sponsors must be a treat and a great motivator for the good looking girls to earn via dating sites.

There are pretty girls in bars today, but they are harder to find. In "the good old days" they were much more numerous in the bar scene. Subjective. And in the good old days I was much younger = easier to score with pretty young things.

The bar scene for me is exciting. Dating sites are frustrating, even for younger guys. Suggest you make contact say about two weeks before your arrival in Phils. Internet conversation longer than that might lead to "the sick caribou" (spelling?) or other money requests. Dating site girls will arrive late or not at all, at your Hotel. If not careful they will arrive at same time you have another girl in the room. Nothing beats 'vibes' which you can only assess in a personal meet, face to face eg Bars. Patience is required, if you want to succeed via internet, and preferably a photo of yourself 10/20 yrs ago, too LOL.

The old saying: "Nothing worth having, ever came easy".

For a young guy say up to 40 (or 50 but looking 40 in their eyes) Internet must be good. For old guys, bars are a cinch, but girl quality is down, compared to pre Internet. Freelancers in the 2nd millennium, are a risk, and I never partake nowadays. Got some nice freelancers in the innocent 1970's. Aaah "the good old days".

In 2060 someone will be talking about the "good old days" in 2017 , LOL.

Disclaimer: Everything is subjective. Different guys will have a different take on the same subject. Guys, no good sitting in mumma's cellar. Get up, buy that air ticket, and find out for yourself, at the' Front. Stop sponsoring girls on the Internet, too, LOL.

[QUOTE=MsAccount;1994783]I have always seen all of these Clubs / KTV's on AS Fortuna Street from the taxi on the way to the airport. So over the last few trips to Cebu I have explored this street. Most of this information certainly has not been written up before.

(8) I have never saw a Westerner customer in these places but they tell me they do get them.

AS Fortuna Street is a few kilometres long. I will describe the places I have visited starting from the end closest to Mactan / Old Bridge:

So what is actionable from this FR? Ok maybe give the pure Japanese KTV's a miss. But Club Hannabi although expensive is a place to experience given the volume of girls.[/QUOTE]Nice and comprehensive FR Ms A. I have been the odd white man in the KTVs mainly to see ladies I know who work there and not for any other reason. I went so I could show support in staying an hour and chatting etc (kudos for them as a white guy they told me). Some are now married to Koreans / Japs who are 99% the clientele of these places.

KTVs are not for me but worth a visit as Ms A did just for hell of it. There are many rules, you will feel like a fish out of water, but Ferrari and Hannabi are better ones but KTVs are still not my style or flavor.

The girls are a mix and some are clearly looking for a way out and some truly dislike the drunken behaviors of many of the clients (and many were drunk trust me) - is why a white guy was welcome (if also rare).

Sorry, I left out Pimps in my previous post. In addition to Bars and Casas (working girl houses) they were significant suppliers of girls, but also faded away to an extent once Internet was established. From a pimped girl you could make contact with say students, who then brought their classmates around, especially when they need exam fees, LOL. College and University girls, of legal age. Contacts, other than straightforward ugly pimps, are still a source, if you know how (experience). Flexibility, innovation, patience = success, even in 2017.

[QUOTE=Sxxxx;2006354]I arrived on the Phils sex scene early 1970's, been going there regularly ever since. Nice girls and pretty girls sold pussy via the bars and working girl houses (Casas) those days. Some freelancing too. Along came 'cable TV' , then Internet, and the gradual disappearance of really pretty girls with nice attitudes working in bars. Subjective, the way I see it..[/QUOTE]Great wisdom from a long experience. Shame it is embedded down in the Cebu bars thread.

[QUOTE=Sxxxx;2006354] The bar scene for me is exciting. Dating sites are frustrating, even for younger guys.*......... Patience is required, if you want to succeed via internet, and preferably a photo of yourself 10/20 yrs ago, too LOL. The old saying: "Nothing worth having, ever came easy".[/QUOTE]I have been heavily plowing the dating sites (mainly within Cebu and less so Manila) for 2 years (and less intense for 2 years before that) and to tell the truth I have had enough. Its hard work. I have been flamed before for saying it is not easy. I get told its like shooting fish in a barrel. I prefer the analogy of trying to herd cats. But in Cebu you have no choice. I would be spending 3-4 nights per month in the Cebu bar scene and very rarely do I encounter a girl I would want to barfine. In recent times I have developed a strong referral network within Cebu but that has taken a long time and my standards for accepting a referral is lower than what I would accept from an internet dating site (mainly because the referral is so easy).

[QUOTE=Sxxxx;2006354] In 2060 someone will be talking about the "good old days" in 2017 , LOL.[/QUOTE]I am an economic and political doomsayer. You have experienced the Philippines through the great era of globalised peaceful prosperity. I envy you. Wish I had been around in those days. I am not sure the next 20 years will be as peaceful and prosperous. Sounds melodramatic but I am not sure the Philippines will be conducive to mongers in the future. Maybe we a re closer to the Spanish sitting on his porch in 1898 than the period 1970.

Since we are on the fascinating topic of Cebu History, can anyone elaborate on St Moritz Hotel and Eddie of Eddie's Log Cabin and Eddie's Hotel?

St Moritz Hotel is still in business. I plan to do a FR soon. X Man.

[QUOTE=XMan;2009595]Since we are on the fascinating topic of Cebu History, can anyone elaborate on St Moritz Hotel and Eddie of Eddie's Log Cabin and Eddie's Hotel?

St Moritz Hotel is still in business. I plan to do a FR soon. X Man.[/QUOTE]It's good to know it's open again X.

It was closed for quite a long time between around 2010 - 2015 (my dates are fuzzy, but it was definitely closed down).

[QUOTE=XMan;2009595]Since we are on the fascinating topic of Cebu History, can anyone elaborate on St Moritz Hotel and Eddie of Eddie's Log Cabin and Eddie's Hotel?

St Moritz Hotel is still in business. I plan to do a FR soon. X Man.[/QUOTE]X Man,

In response to your question.

First arrived Cebu in the early 90's. As I recall, at the time, there were only two or three "5-star hotels" in Cebu City, including the Magellan, where I stayed the first day, with a golf course (but which hotel subsequently burned down) and the Cebu Plaza up in Nivel Hills, which years later became the Marco Polo Plaza.

At the time, a friend of mine suggested I might have more fun by transferring to the nearby but much smaller St Moritz, which I did. He was right. At the time, St Moritz had an attached bar, with a half-dozen young women dancers, similar in concept to some small clubs in Angeles. Informal and friendly. Rooms were on the noisy side at night, from the loud music from the bar. Attached restaurant served German food, which attracted some German and other European guests.

Didn't really care much for Cebu at the time, and so didn't return to Cebu for many years. Haven't been back to St Moritz since the original visit. St Moritz was a bit on the run-down or shabby side at that time, so can only imagine what condition it is in now, more than 20 years later. Also, can only guess that the friendly young women there are long gone. Location relatively close to what is now Ayala, in the general direction of the Elizabeth Hotel, but perhaps in a small side street or run-down area? Frankly, I wouldn't expect much.

Don't know about Eddie's.

Hope that helps!

OM.

[QUOTE=XMan;2009595]Since we are on the fascinating topic of Cebu History, can anyone elaborate on St Moritz Hotel and Eddie of Eddie's Log Cabin and Eddie's Hotel?

St Moritz Hotel is still in business. I plan to do a FR soon. X Man.[/QUOTE]Could write a lot about Eddy, his log cabin and his Hotel.

Log Cabin was first coffee shop in Cebu. Eddie in Phils war time, after which, he set himself up as a road / bridge builder, war salvage lad, real estate investor, etc etc. Piled up millions of dollars. Spent many times with him in coffee shop (Log Cabin) , including when one of his nine wives fronted. Lung cancer got him. He had a sign up on the Log Cabin wall: "Smoking. You can breath in, but not out" . Character Eddie, claimed to be of Red Indian stock, supposed painting of his father hanging in coffee shop, in full Indian regalia. Last time I saw him, he gave me a lift in his car to show me his new Eddies Hotel. Had to carry an oxygen cylinder with him everywhere he went. Laying on one of his hotel beds, attached to a cylinder, he smiled and said farewell. He was dead, next time I called in to Cebu. St Moritz yeh, belonged to that era too.

Oops, forgot. Eddie told me Imelda stayed at his house once, and the inevitable happened. He always told you these stories with a cheesy grin. I never knew if they were fact or fiction. When young and already wealthy he claimed to 'know' many Miss Philippines too, LOL. Gave me tips on how to score with quality ladies and so on. But I wasn't rich and handsome like Eddie.

Too many stories, too little time, LOL.

I went with a friend there. The food was outstanding, and at a very reasonable price. Furthermore, the waiter was very attentive, a rarity.

I miss the place, and the shell / souvenir stalls on Briones St.

[QUOTE=Omega3;2009621]X Man,


At the time, a friend of mine suggested I might have more fun by transferring to the nearby but much smaller St Moritz, which I did. He was right. At the time, St Moritz had an attached bar, with a half-dozen young women dancers, similar in concept to some small clubs in Angeles. Informal and friendly. Rooms were on the noisy side at night, from the loud music from the bar. Attached restaurant served German food, which attracted some German and other European guests.

s. Haven't been back to St Moritz since the original visit. St Moritz was a bit on the run-down or shabby side at that time, so can only imagine what condition it is in now, more than 20 years later.

OM.[/QUOTE]One of first bars / hotels I took a BF from in Cebu, way way way back in the day was the bar next to St Moritz. Maybe lates 1980's. Girl took me in hand and led me to the hotel and called reception. Damn, a real blast from the past. Had totally forgotten about that place.

Hi Guys. I have RTFF but can't determine which is currently the best Go Go bar in Cebu. I'm there tonight for just one night so can't waste time exploring. Thank you for your expert recommendations. Joe.

[QUOTE=JoeBanana;2014533]Hi Guys. I have RTFF but can't determine which is currently the best Go Go bar in Cebu. I'm there tonight for just one night so can't waste time exploring. Thank you for your expert recommendations. Joe.[/QUOTE]I don't purport to be a Cebu expert. But when I was there a few weeks ago, the best line-up I saw was at Vikings. This could however change from day to day.

GE.

[QUOTE=JoeBanana;2014533]Hi Guys. I have RTFF but can't determine which is currently the best Go Go bar in Cebu. I'm there tonight for just one night so can't waste time exploring. Thank you for your expert recommendations. Joe.[/QUOTE]Just returned from 3 nights in Cebu. Don't know what hotel you are at, but go to "Love City" and a lot a bars are next to each other or across the street from each other. At the time. 3 sisters had the best lineup. I went a little early, so Love City did not have all their girls on the floor.

As discussed in previous report. The Mango Bar queen has reopened Dimples now called Wild Rose. Same theme as the rest of her bars: bright open layout and the mauve orange chairs. There is a connecting door now to the old Papillion bar next door. I don't often bar fine in Mango bars but was quite happy with the girl I had asked to sit with me at Wild Rose. Had already bought two LD at 180 each. I was expecting the BF to be 3500,4000 worst case. Manager tells me policy is 5 LD plus an amount the girl specifies. So the girl tells me 4500. So assuming the 2 LD I had already bought counted within the 5 the BF was really 5 K. I called the manager back and told him he was nuts. Why wasn't he implementing the same policy as all the other Mango queen bars. I was a little tanked so regrettably I got a little verbose with him. But to be honest the last time I BF on Mango was Erik the Red about two years ago and it was 3.5 K. Am I out of date? Has anyone recently barfined in any of the Mango Queen bars (Viking, Erik the Red, BG's, the old Red Lips, the old Papillion and now the old Dimples)? 5 k for BF on Mango bars. Seriously? I think the manager was just going rogue. Or is it the start of the Mango Bar queen using her monopoly on Mango bars (she now has 6 out of 12 or so bars on Mango) to raise prices?

[QUOTE=MsAccount;2026125]As discussed in previous report. The Mango Bar queen has reopened Dimples now called Wild Rose. Same theme as the rest of her bars: bright open layout and the mauve orange chairs. There is a connecting door now to the old Papillion bar next door. I don't often bar fine in Mango bars but was quite happy with the girl I had asked to sit with me at Wild Rose. Had already bought two LD at 180 each. I was expecting the BF to be 3500,4000 worst case. Manager tells me policy is 5 LD plus an amount the girl specifies. So the girl tells me 4500. So assuming the 2 LD I had already bought counted within the 5 the BF was really 5 K. I called the manager back and told him he was nuts. Why wasn't he implementing the same policy as all the other Mango queen bars. I was a little tanked so regrettably I got a little verbose with him. But to be honest the last time I BF on Mango was Erik the Red about two years ago and it was 3.5 K. Am I out of date? Has anyone recently barfined in any of the Mango Queen bars (Viking, Erik the Red, BG's, the old Red Lips, the old Papillion and now the old Dimples)? 5 k for BF on Mango bars. Seriously? I think the manager was just going rogue. Or is it the start of the Mango Bar queen using her monopoly on Mango bars (she now has 6 out of 12 or so bars on Mango) to raise prices?[/QUOTE]Thanks for the update Ms A.

This is the reason why I don't bother to barfine anyone as why waste time etc when I can find lovely cuties for half that price and not LDs. Unfortunately the bar market is not for westerners who have an idea of pricing / market rates and are not the target customer. This is probably why prices are rising (or the girls are wanting that from every guy know the Koreans / Japs will pay whatever for very short time).

Have lots of contacts and ask to meet their friends, sisters and cousins in my advice.

[QUOTE=WickedRoger;2026247]Thanks for the update Ms A.

This is the reason why I don't bother to barfine anyone as why waste time etc when I can find lovely cuties for half that price and not LDs. Unfortunately the bar market is not for westerners who have an idea of pricing / market rates and are not the target customer. This is probably why prices are rising (or the girls are wanting that from every guy know the Koreans / Japs will pay whatever for very short time).

Have lots of contacts and ask to meet their friends, sisters and cousins in my advice.[/QUOTE]I still think bars and BF's have their place (particularly for less frequent visitors). I am a keen fan of the key bars on Burgos. Without a lot of chatmate search / meet effort you can turn up find a very cute girl who given they wear a skimpy bikini you can validate has a good figure and generally will have a good GF experience. Admitted its a little bit on the expensive side. Alternatively you have AC (which I have limited experience of with only one trip) which is cheaper with a larger quantity of bars and girls but maybe not the lookers you get on Burgos. Unfortunately the Cebu scene is in the middle. More expensive than AC but cheaper than Burgos. Lower volume of options than both AC and Burgos. And probably equivalent quality of AC not Burgos. There is no reason to come to Cebu on the basis of the bar scene alone. It would be better to stay in AC or Manila. But if you have put the effort into chatmates then Cebu has the advantage of being big enough to have a good base of hotels / restaurants and big enough that girls are not hindered by the risk of getting caught by friends / family. I have the impression (particularly from reports like Westie in CDO) that the smaller towns tend to result in more conservative girls as everyone knows what everyone is doing.

[QUOTE=MsAccount;2026743]I still think bars and BF's have their place ..........[/QUOTE]For me Cebu never was a good bar town. Did visit them, rarely bar fined any. Cebu was a 'Contact' town from the start. You can have a busy and pleasant time in Cebu if you take the time to develop female Contacts (not males). Tip the Contact, its much much cheaper than barfines and ladies drinks, I assure you, LOL.

How do you find Contact / s? Well, could start with dating sites, get one girl, then ask her for 'friend / s'. Make it clear she will be rewarded too. One day you will come across a Contact that will supply super stuff, one day. Worth it, more fun, less commercial, less hard core. You only get prostitutes via bars, LOL.

Thanks for the report. The Mango Bar Queen. First time I heard that. I wonder what kind of connections the MBQ has.

BTW, Dimples and Pap always had an inside passageway. I'd roll into one, and if I didn't see anything promising I'd keep on walking right into the other bar. It saved the doorman the trouble of opening the door. There was a curtain, so it wasn't obvious. One of the dancers told me about it.

[QUOTE=MsAccount;2026125]As discussed in previous report. The Mango Bar queen has reopened Dimples now called Wild Rose. Same theme as the rest of her bars: bright open layout and the mauve orange chairs. There is a connecting door now to the old Papillion bar next door. I don't often bar fine in Mango bars but was quite happy with the girl I had asked to sit with me at Wild Rose. Had already bought two LD at 180 each. I was expecting the BF to be 3500,4000 worst case. Manager tells me policy is 5 LD plus an amount the girl specifies. So the girl tells me 4500. So assuming the 2 LD I had already bought counted within the 5 the BF was really 5 K. I called the manager back and told him he was nuts. Why wasn't he implementing the same policy as all the other Mango queen bars. I was a little tanked so regrettably I got a little verbose with him. But to be honest the last time I BF on Mango was Erik the Red about two years ago and it was 3.5 K. Am I out of date? Has anyone recently barfined in any of the Mango Queen bars (Viking, Erik the Red, BG's, the old Red Lips, the old Papillion and now the old Dimples)? 5 k for BF on Mango bars. Seriously? I think the manager was just going rogue. Or is it the start of the Mango Bar queen using her monopoly on Mango bars (she now has 6 out of 12 or so bars on Mango) to raise prices?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=WickedRoger;2026247]Thanks for the update Ms A.

This is the reason why I don't bother to barfine anyone as why waste time etc when I can find lovely cuties for half that price and not LDs. Unfortunately the bar market is not for westerners who have an idea of pricing / market rates and are not the target customer. This is probably why prices are rising (or the girls are wanting that from every guy know the Koreans / Japs will pay whatever for very short time).

Have lots of contacts and ask to meet their friends, sisters and cousins in my advice.[/QUOTE]I completely agree with WR's view on this. However, our perspective may differ from those who just hit town and want quick results with a minimum of effort or hassle.

BGs who are newly arrived and are "fresh" may still be lovely. However, BGs who have been around for awhile tend to acquire a rather unattractive veneer. Non BGs tend to be more of the "real deal" and can be quite endearing.

Just one man's view.

OM.

I heard from a close reliable source that the mayor is cracking down on bars and hence the popular j'ave will close soon.

I am also told that the mayor wants the bars to move out of the city and towards manduae. I new club Octagon is opening and is supposed to be better than liv.

Can someone please confirm about j'ave?

Thanks.

G.

[QUOTE=Omega3;2027098]I completely agree with WR's view on this. However, our perspective may differ from those who just hit town and want quick results with a minimum of effort or hassle.

BGs who are newly arrived and are "fresh" may still be lovely. However, BGs who have been around for awhile tend to acquire a rather unattractive veneer. Non BGs tend to be more of the "real deal" and can be quite endearing.

Just one man's view.

OM.[/QUOTE]The bars have the advantage that there is no waiting game. At the same time though those girls with the veneer can really leave you jaded. In five years of visits I have not paid a bargirl in Cebu.

Even hitting town as a newbie it really doesn't take too much work on DIA to line up a few options. Tinder is good. I'm sure even going to JAve and not going inside would result in a sure thing. As would gliding past Bo's Coffee at Ayala.

I am sure I posted a report on here about the 26 yo Tinder girl I 'dated'. God she was good in the bed. I invited her to spend a few days while I worked and without prompting she would give me a BJ while I worked. A true performer. Everything was available and all she wanted was breakfast and some respect.

Oh, maybe that's the rub, for the guys that don't have the respect to give, they should be going and paying top dollar at the bars.

BD.

[QUOTE=BrainDrain;2030512]I'm sure even going to JAve and not going inside would result in a sure thing. As would gliding past Bo's Coffee at Ayala.

BD.[/QUOTE]JAve is OK but full Koreans etc so sometimes not the best. At Bos (aka my office) be careful of some of the walkers. They are cheap, well known, some are LBs also. There is also a MILF who wanders around past Bos and Seattle and smiles. If you need a sexy MILF I know a few but I would never take the walkers. Also the LB lan at times descend on Bos, make a lot of noise and at times pull out their boobs and feel each others. Some Aussie guys were with them a while back and I really wonder if he knew who he was with LOL.

However a few students turn up to study in Bos and that can be fruitful if you have your game. And if she is in the uniform and heels of 4-6" she is definitely looking as the schools have very strict rules on hell length (2" or less or flat only).

Yes JAve is already closed and the place all boarded and fenced up.

[QUOTE=ClearWater;2033264]Yes JAve is already closed and the place all boarded and fenced up.[/QUOTE]Thanks for that, but what is the gossip behind reason for closing. Gos is important you know, LOL.

Was it cause owned by Koreans= give filipino competition a leg up? Thanks for any gos you have.

[QUOTE=Sxxxx;2033595]Thanks for that, but what is the gossip behind reason for closing. Gos is important you know, LOL.

Was it cause owned by Koreans= give filipino competition a leg up? Thanks for any gos you have.[/QUOTE]The pinoy behind JAve is / was a prominent councillor with whom I have had dinner with a few times. He has also appeared in the press many times so I will ask him and PM you when I find out. If it is juicy of course.

The rest of the complex was a mess. If you're rode the escalator up you'd find empty shops. When there was a business, it would be gone six months later. Neighboring hotels suffered from the noise.

Cebu is booming for better or worse.

[QUOTE=Sxxxx;2033595]Thanks for that, but what is the gossip behind reason for closing. Gos is important you know, LOL.

Was it cause owned by Koreans= give filipino competition a leg up? Thanks for any gos you have.[/QUOTE]

From all the reading, JAve seemed to be the best venue to pick-up high quality freelancers, but it's now closed based on the latest report.

I will be in Cebu next week, any recommendation on bar, club or place where I can easily pick-up pretty / high quality freelancers, without having to spend too much time on searching?

I only have 2 days / 2 nights and want to optimize my time. Please PM me if you have any contact. Thank you!

[QUOTE=GHaribo;2043036]From all the reading, JAve seemed to be the best venue to pick-up high quality freelancers, but it's now closed based on the latest report.

I will be in Cebu next week, any recommendation on bar, club or place where I can easily pick-up pretty / high quality freelancers, without having to spend too much time on searching?

I only have 2 days / 2 nights and want to optimize my time. Please PM me if you have any contact. Thank you![/QUOTE]You won't have time to build up relationships over web sites etc unless you start now and say at am in Cebu week of. Who would like to meet me at then filter the replies and chat / cam with the prospects to eed out LBs etc.

There are a few clubs around but LIV, MO2 are nice. If in the hills near Maro Polo there is Monastery but also much depends on what day you are there are these places are generally busy weekends. Go there weekdays there is still some people partying but is quiet.

And some of the FLs are really office girls / uni students so you need a game plan.

Lots of variables in this for a 2 day trip and for some is easy to hang around Mango and the bars. But be careful sammers etc as plenty there.

PM me for more information.

[QUOTE=GHaribo;2043036]From all the reading, JAve seemed to be the best venue to pick-up high quality freelancers, but it's now closed based on the latest report[/QUOTE]No need to fret as J Ave has opened a second location in Mandaue and the party has moved there including all the FL's. Refer to their FB page.

[QUOTE=WickedRoger;2043175]There are a few clubs around but LIV, MO2 are nice. If in the hills near Maro Polo there is Monastery...[/QUOTE]Monastery has been closed for at least six months and it was a great place to drink craft beer and see live music. But not really known as a FL bar. Pity it has closed.

[QUOTE=BukoMax;2043363]No need to fret as J Ave has opened a second location in Mandaue and the party has moved there including all the FL's. Refer to their FB page.

Monastery has been closed for at least six months and it was a great place to drink craft beer and see live music. But not really known as a FL bar. Pity it has closed.[/QUOTE]Shows how often I go to the hills as the traffic to get there is IMHO not worth the bother and staying in and around 'sea level' is much better. When I lived in that area I head driving there is why I won't live Nivel ever again.

JAve was and is full of young Koreans so I would sit outside watch the eye candy as they pop out for drinks etc at times and sat down.

Plenty clubs around but some last a few months. Went to basic once and was quiet yet close to Ayala, very few people and just not enough of anything fpr me.

Hey,

What's up guys, I'll be in Cebu tomorrow and have been reading lots of information you guys posted.

I just wanted to come in and thank you for the updates, and will try to make some updates of my own on the ground and when I return.

So. I've left cebu yesterday. And been to mango square a couple of times. The 1st time uber drobbed me on the other side of the street. I didn't know where's the square. Then there was this lady mid 30's was waving at me and calling me. She knew that I was looking for the clubs. We crossed the street and she told me that she wants a beer I said why not. But wasn't intending to take her because she wasn't the prettiest and also I wasn't looking to take someone with that night. She was talkative and when she realised that I'm not going to take her she said something about her phone and wants 350 . I said fine I'll tip you. She tried to walk to the clubs with me then she told me that she'll wait for me tomorrow. I was like what LOL.

The 2nd time I was there I stayed outside the club ordered a beer then there's this lady came up to me and said something o don't remember them she sat down. Was kinda old and one of her teeth looks bad. She wanted a beer then her friend came too "I'm pretty sure that she was a ladyboy " and started talking and trying to convince me to go with her. She asked probably 30 times. And my response was the same. Then they kept telling me to go inside and to dance. I don't what's that about. I gave her a top to shut her up and to leave me alone. The 1st one as soon as she had her beer she slept!

About the clubs. Hmm I tried all of them. Probably holic was the best in all of them. Still not that good.

[QUOTE=WickedRoger;2043433]

JAve was and is full of young Koreans so I would sit outside watch the eye candy as they pop out for drinks etc at times and sat down.

Plenty clubs around but some last a few months. Went to basic once and was quiet .[/QUOTE]Been there 4 months ago. It was ok to find plenaty FLs. But heard from reliable sources from the ground now that the gathering area in front of the clubs is dead. Deserted. No FL there anymore. Mango in general a sad area now. Only old hogs and LBs.

As you on the ground, can you confirm and if --where did all the FL's move to?

[QUOTE=Amadeuss;2056439]

As you on the ground, can you confirm and if --where did all the FL's move to?[/QUOTE]Did you not read Post 497 in this very thread?

[QUOTE=RedKilt;2056442]Did you not read Post 497 in this very thread?[/QUOTE]Excellent reply! LOL. I not asking about the discos but the FLs who did hang around there in big packs. Those chicks never went into the discos. And the area in Mandaue is not really to compare with Mango and all the little pubs and shops to hang around.

So. Are you on the ground?

Just went to the new J Ave in Mandaue after two very disappointing DIA date (lots of eating, just a few kissing, many sms, but no sex) . It was like Gangnam or new Seoul, full of Koreans in their 20's. No space for me there, I won't ever come back there, so different from the J Ave I remember in Mango.

I will give Cebu one last day, then I'll run away.
I'm so unlucky WR is not reading my PM, my fault to write him last second...

[QUOTE=OnTheRoad;2067454]Just went to the new J Ave in Mandaue after two very disappointing DIA date (lots of eating, just a few kissing, many sms, but no sex) . It was like Gangnam or new Seoul, full of Koreans in their 20's. No space for me there, I won't ever come back there, so different from the J Ave I remember in Mango.

I will give Cebu one last day, then I'll run away.
I'm so unlucky WR is not reading my PM, my fault to write him last second...[/QUOTE]LOL WR is reading but been on planes but we are in contact OTR.

Never do bars and DIA can take time and when a few days DIA can be very good or just awful!

Check the PMs.

Hello?

Next week, I am flying to Cebu for 5 nights and am staying at Mandarin hotel.

I would hit some clubs at night such as Liv, Oqtagon to pick up FLs and have massages during the day time eating at Ayala malls.

However, for 1 or 2 days I would like to give a shot to pick up freelancers during daytime and since J avenue is closed where I can go to pick up FLs or seek for day time actions.

Can you please tell me where the good places are for fishing FLs and do they have any day-time bars to barfine like AC?

In addition, as far as I know the price for S / T is 1000 1500 peso and L / T is for 2500 3000 peso. Is this correct?

Thanks a lot in advance.

[QUOTE=Xfreak0000;2111320]Hello?

Next week, I am flying to Cebu for 5 nights and am staying at Mandarin hotel.

I would hit some clubs at night such as Liv, Oqtagon to pick up FLs and have massages during the day time eating at Ayala malls.

However, for 1 or 2 days I would like to give a shot to pick up freelancers during daytime and since J avenue is closed where I can go to pick up FLs or seek for day time actions.

Can you please tell me where the good places are for fishing FLs and do they have any day-time bars to barfine like AC?

In addition, as far as I know the price for S / T is 1000 1500 peso and L / T is for 2500 3000 peso. Is this correct?

Thanks a lot in advance.[/QUOTE]Freelancers can be found at Ayala Mall around Bos Coffee on the terraces from about 11 am. S / T 1000 - 1500 and L / T 1500 - 2000. Make eye contact and smile. If the gaze is reciprocated make your move. Be wary of LBs.

[QUOTE=Xfreak0000;2111320]Hello?

Next week, I am flying to Cebu for 5 nights and am staying at Mandarin hotel.

I would hit some clubs at night such as Liv, Oqtagon to pick up FLs and have massages during the day time eating at Ayala malls.

However, for 1 or 2 days I would like to give a shot to pick up freelancers during daytime and since J avenue is closed where I can go to pick up FLs or seek for day time actions.

Can you please tell me where the good places are for fishing FLs and do they have any day-time bars to barfine like AC?

In addition, as far as I know the price for S / T is 1000 1500 peso and L / T is for 2500 3000 peso. Is this correct?

Thanks a lot in advance.[/QUOTE]Check your PMs Xfreak.

The FLS around Ayala I would never touch with a tungsten tip condom. Many well used by anyone and anything. And some are 500 pesos but if you have no taste then go for it LOL.

There is a fugly MILF with a maniac smile and if you smile back she pounces. I see this from my 'office' and chuckle a lot. Seen may fooled by the LBs who come to Bos are loud show off their boobs and then get thrown out. They go to Watsons for a freebie hair curl and make up before hitting the clubs. They hang around the area overlooking the central area so watch out as seen many westerners be fooled. Most return fairly quickly once they realise who they are with LOL.

PM if you want to.

[QUOTE=WickedRoger;2114328]Check your PMs Xfreak.

The FLS around Ayala I would never touch with a tungsten tip condom. Many well used by anyone and anything. And some are 500 pesos but if you have no taste then go for it LOL.

There is a fugly MILF with a maniac smile and if you smile back she pounces. I see this from my 'office' and chuckle a lot. Seen may fooled by the LBs who come to Bos are loud show off their boobs and then get thrown out. They go to Watsons for a freebie hair curl and make up before hitting the clubs. They hang around the area overlooking the central area so watch out as seen many westerners be fooled. Most return fairly quickly once they realise who they are with LOL.

PM if you want to.[/QUOTE]Yeh, I agree, I would not [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] on them. "tungsten tipped condom", liked that one. 500 would be too much methinks, 200 for local lads, methinks. "no taste" helps when you have a tight budget, but do not expect a tight pussy, LOL. If he is fooled by Phil lady boys he'd better keep away from Thailand where even people like me (aka 'genius') gets fooled for a minute or two, LOL. We are talking "bottom feeder" here. You only have one shot in life, might as well have a good one, stay home save up respectable amount of money and fuck decent looking women, ha ha. Merry Christmas (or if on a tight budget. Merry syphilis).

Hello?

This is my short trip FR.

Stayed in Cebu city for 3 nights and in Mactan for 2 nights.

Oqtagon club:

Went there 3 times. Always got myself a table and it is 2600 peso consumable. The atmosphere and facility are good, but it is not suitable for fishing. Zyzzyx in Manila is more suitable for that.

It is not that difficult to pick up a FL, but it is also not easy because of the atmosphere and some FLs are at VIP table which is higher level than the normal table area so you have to look them up and also difficult to talk.

Lotus:

This club is owned by the same owner of Oqtagon, but much smaller and old fashion, but I would say this one is more proper for Phillipines.

I went Friday, but not even full. A few FLs are there, but not pretty. Actually I did not see any pretty at clubs including oqtagon.

Freelancers;.

I only visited Ayala mall since it is next to my hotel and also checked the outside balcony areas where bo's coffee is. Saw some freelancers, but there are all in their 30's or even 40's. Never actually saw FLs in their 20's so they were not my cup of tea.

Bikini Bars:

Went mango av. And visited all the bars.

Sisters has a good selection of girls and they were the most welcoming and cheerful ladies.

Planet X: I did not like the setup. It is like american dining restaurant, but it is difficult to see all the girls at one sight and some of the tables were really like dining tables with partition so if you do not want to be seen by other customers it is good, but if you don't care about it this is not so good because it blocks your view.

The rest of bikini bars I don't remember the names, but did not see any girls fancy so only had beer at sisters. - they accept credit card charging 6% commission.

KTV.

I normally go to KTV / JTV, but this time I decided to give a go so visited Hanabi because I thought this was the most expensive KTV with the most beautiful girls, but I got to know from my barfined lady from Hanabi that Area is the no. 1 and East paris is No2. If I knew it I would've tried Arena.

Anyway, visited at about 7:30, but most of the ladies were putting make-up on their face so had to wait for about 20 minutes. Only 1 girl was pretty so barfiend her.

You do not need to drink there and you can barfine lady directly so I did to go to Oqtagon, but I asked mamasan about the price and the price is for 1 hour 400 for lady and 400 for mamasan and beer is about 120 peso. I did not ask, but the mamasan did not mention about set price such as 2000 peso that was mentioned in this forum.

Hanabi credit card commission is also 6% as I recall.

Not so much info, but hope this helps your plan.

[QUOTE=Xfreak0000;2116323]Hello? This is my short trip FR..[/QUOTE]Good report. Nice to read a post minus hype and misleading info.

Re Arena:

Arena I know very well indeed. Although haven't been there for a year or so now, been there 30/50 times before. Entrance fee 200/300, beer 110, tip to waiter expected.

Dance girls virtually off limits, they don't need to fuck with strangers, they get big tips (500/1000) from almost exclusively Korean / Japanese / wealthy Filipino, audience, just for being on stage. No touching etc for 1000. You'll be the only whitey there, normally. Better dancers also have Sponsors setting them up in apartments, plus generous shopping etc allowances, whilst in the background these same girls fuck with trike drivers, LOL (joking).

Non dance / standby girls (up to 50 by the looks of it) supposedly 6000 bar fine and expect 1/2000 tip. Not good sex, is what I hear. No pics, no videos.

I specialise in the dance girls via "sneak out," no bar fine, but you need lots of experience, balls, game, to pull that off. I do not bother with the fully dressed standby girls. A girl in semi nude (dance girls) impresses me more. Fully clothed girls can be covering up a not so great body.

Ladies drinks used to be 600 Manila girls, 300 Cebu girls. Last time only 300 regardless of where girl came from. 30 minutes of her time for that. They control the time (not so in Angeles, similar place). Last ladies drink girl I had there, delighted in telling me how she has arranged for a guy she met at Arena to be arrested on arrival at Manila airport. Arena girls can be switched on and informed (about their 'rights'.

OK, go there, have a couple of drinks and perv on sensual dancing in skimpy gear, although not as good as it used to be, hence I have given it a miss last 12/18 months.

A Korean / Japanese haunt. Any white guys who enter do not seem to stay for long. I stay long time, cause I am a perv at heart, and it takes time to secure a nice dancer, more than one visit, and more than one ladies drink, that is. And that's the experience of a handsome man. Me, LOL.

After 3 days of warm up in Hong-Kong, I'm arriving in Cebu with cebu pacific airlines around noon. It was in January 2018. I take a taxi at the airport and 40 minutes later I'm arrived at my hotel, the Quest Hotel close to the ayala mall. It's a big hotel, nice room, a medium size swimming pool and of course Girl-friendly.

My plan was to pick-up a freelance in the afternoon but when I'm arrived, the first building of the mall was still in fire and all the ayala mall was close. So for the first afternoon I just do classic tourism in the city.

When arriving the night-time, after dining, direction the Mango square , it was not in fire , LOL , just a few people (it was sunday night ) , i'm seating at the terrace of the first disco and drinking some beers and watching what happen around . a few ladyboys try to seat at my table , but i refuse .
when i'm finished my second beer , a shy small filippina freelancer come to my table for talking . it was funny how she try to explain me that i can fuck her in exchange of money , hehe , it's the main purpose of my travel in Philippines . her name is "pinky" from Cebu ,22 years old , very very friendly and adorable . after negociation we take the direction of my hotel for a ST 1500 PHP .
she take a shower then she directly remove my pants and starting a very good BBBJ , after 5 minutes it was at me to produce pleasure for her , i'm licking her pussy and she look to appreciate a lot . after that she mount on my cock bareback , she is in the category small size , around 37-38 Kg but her pussy was not very tight , LOL . she ride me furiously for around 5 minutes but i finish her in missionary with cum outside
re-shower , i take some photos and i give her money , i said her she will come back to the mango square but she said me " i'm not a hard worker , i go sleep now " not sure she tell me the truth . me i was happy and tired so i stayed to my room

I'm adding some pictures (vidcapps) of pinky in action.

[QUOTE=Boeing787;2154834]When arriving the night-time, after dining, direction the Mango square , it was not in fire , LOL , just a few people (it was sunday night ) , i'm seating at the terrace of the first disco and drinking some beers and watching what happen around . a few ladyboys try to seat at my table , but i refuse .[/QUOTE]Nice FR Boeing but one word advice. Maybe pixel out, cut off the face in your photos. Many mongers have been caught out with posting photos with full face and the lady in question of friends / relatives somehow get to know it. One monger I know had to visit the NBI and explain, another was very worried about threats he received and left AC that night the other side saw his photos.

Just a word of advice as the Philippines tries to 'protect' the 'innocent' pinays from being corrupted by us filthy foreigners. But tends to ignore some pinoys who allegedly corrupt the sexy cuties as well as the foreigners.

She maybe a FL but she likely has friends in the PNP etc when and if someone saw they saw her pic on this forum.

In the past few trips I've traveled in the Visayans and then flew into Clark for some fun before bussing down to Manila for my flight out of the country.

This time I'm moving in the opposite direction and it's a bit depressing.

In Angeles I could and did go to Soya at 10 am or Arcadia at noon and there would be 15+ gals on stage, some of them stunningly attractive. And things got better from there.

Now, let's jump to Cebu. First night in Cebu and I walk into Lone Star at 8:30 pm and there is one chubby dancer on the stage. Another chubby dancer comes over to entertain / annoy me. And you have to sign off on every damn order. Why? Even the TV was on the fritz. To be fair to Lone Star, I went to one other place and took a look. One dancer on stage.

But on the plus side, I've seen more sunshine in the past twelve hours in Cebu than I did all week in Angeles!

[QUOTE=XMan;2214825]Now, let's jump to Cebu. First night in Cebu and I walk into Lone Star at 8:30 pm and there is one chubby dancer on the stage. Another chubby dancer comes over to entertain / annoy me. And you have to sign off on every damn order. Why? Even the TV was on the fritz. To be fair to Lone Star, I went to one other place and took a look. One dancer on stage.

![/QUOTE]You not a newbie. Why you even visit one bar, knowing all of the bars in Cebu are crap! If you are a drinker and bird watcher, stay in AC or Burgos.

Cebu has many other opportunities to get laid.

[QUOTE=Amadeuss;2215114]You not a newbie. Why you even visit one bar, knowing all of the bars in Cebu are crap! If you are a drinker and bird watcher, stay in AC or Burgos.

Cebu has many other opportunities to get laid.[/QUOTE]Yeh, Cebu never was a bar town, except perhaps 1970's to 1980's, prior to invasion of Internet "Walking Penises" , LOL.

For 38 yrs Cebu supplied me extremely well with non bar girls, that well I rarely if ever visited Manila or Angeles. Times change. We as individuals change, enter: Angeles, 2012, LOL.

Cebu City is not a good bar town, correct. Lazy, indifferent, runner attitude prevails.

For me Cebu has become a Dating Site town, thousands to choose from, no bar fine, no ladies drinks. What more could you want?.

Problem for me, need to post a pic on dating site for results, and I don't have any pics of myself earlier on in life. Current pic would scare them all off, LOL. Enter. Angeles bar scene!

[QUOTE=Boeing787;2154834]After that she mount on my cock bareback , she is in the category small size , around 37-38 Kg but her pussy was not very tight! LOL. She ride me furiously for around 5 minutes but I finish her in missionary with cum outside.

Re-shower , I take some photos and I give her money , I said her she will come back to the mango square but she said me " Im not a hard worker , I go sleep now " not sure she tell me the truth . Me, I was happy and tired so I stayed to my room.[/QUOTE]Pinky said that she was not a hard worker but her loose pussy said otherwise. LOL! Small girl but due to regular poundings from huge monger cocks you experienced the hotdog thrown down a hallway effect. LOL!

[QUOTE=Sxxxx;2114988]Yeh, I agree, I would not ... on them. "tungsten tipped condom", liked that one. 500 would be too much methinks, 200 for local lads, methinks. "no taste" helps when you have a tight budget, but do not expect a tight pussy, LOL. If he is fooled by Phil lady boys he'd better keep away from Thailand where even people like me (aka 'genius') gets fooled for a minute or two, LOL. [/QUOTE]Yeah, tight wallet gets loose pussy. LOL! At least if they fool him, he will enjoy tight, elastic, malleable butthole. LOL!

[QUOTE=Sxxxx;2215238]Problem for me, need to post a pic on dating site for results, and I don't have any pics of myself earlier on in life. Current pic would scare them all off, LOL. Enter. Angeles bar scene![/QUOTE]Perhaps, you need to use Photoshop and some filters or retain the services of a starving graphic artist on Fiverr. For the cost of a cup of coffee and a pack of Shirley biscuits, a graphic artist can make you look less like the Crypt Keeper and more like Brad Pitt. LOL! Just make sure your dates come directly to your hotel room, and keep the lights turned way down. Keep the light on the dresser on with a stack of 100-piso bills to lure them in like moths to the flame.

I had 4 nights in Cebu last month. A huge shout out to Wicked Roger, whose intel and contact proved immensely useful and fulfilling.

Picked girls on all nights from bars on Mango Avenue mostly. All of them stayed well into the next day and left only when I told them I had to go out for the day. Sure, it is not cheap. Barfines are set at 3 k, 4 k, and even 5 k in some places. Almost every bar will slip in the double LD if you are not paying attention. Some bars even have a ridiculous rule of 3 double drinks or 5 single drinks before the girl can be barfined and taken out.

But I was there for just 4 nights and I liked the girls I saw. So I paid what was asked for. And I got what I wanted. GFE while not fucking. PSE while fucking. No girl objected to anything. All good. I always carry chocolates when going to the Philippines. Girls were happy with the Toblerone bar and a 100 peso tip.

One of WR's contacts came over for a longish ST on one of the days. And she delivered as promised. I had a great time with her. She was up for everything. A real LBFM, but a smart one at that. She can hold a conversation with you on most subjects. I gave her 2 k she asked for and another 200 peso tip with some more chocolate.

On other days I managed to get ST visits from girls on Tinder and WeChat. One girl did not have her ID and hence could not get her into my room. Just replaced her with another. All ST girls were paid between 1200 - 1500 for their services. Only one refused a BBBJ. No one insisted on a condom. But then, I will not take a chance with working girls in the Philippines.

Hey all, noticed the last post referencing Liv or J-Ave is from about this time last year; are those spots and the surrounding club scene enticing enough to warrant a visit from Manila?

This Autumn I'm staying in Makati for a few weeks for some good ol' medical tourism, but the similarities to my normal locale (albeit 5 x the size and 1/5th the cost) leave me feeling more stressed than a vacation should (no loving God would allow for six rush hour periods in a day). A visit to AC is de rigeur, but I've also been considering a side trip to Cebu for a week or two. I could arguably have some of my outpatient needs taken care of out there, but my main interest would be the difference in nightlife. Would you say the atmosphere Liv, J-Ave, or similar clubs in the area have are worth the trip?

I'm aware there are other night options, but this approach is the type I prefer, knowing the years left where I won't be woefully out of place at these types of places are dwindling. It sounds like one might have to get into a series of bottle wars to wrest attention away from the Koreans in VIP, but I'm okay with that. I'm more concerned with the quantity and quality of women at these spots Thurs-Saturday, and 5 k+ barfines are no problem at all if it's for the right one.

Sorry for getting wordy: is the Mango Square nightlife scene a welcome enough departure from it's Makati counterpart to warrant a visit? Nightclubs are traditionally a bit more fickle as far as where the crowd goes, so RTFF past 2017 only helps me so much. And if you're in Cebu over the Fall, always happy to buy the first round (unless you're doing some wild sketch-ass illegal shit in which case sorry no beers)!

I lived there a few years ago. The place is a waste. There isn't even a performance theater there. There is nothing. Why incur the expense of coming from Manila? Waste of money.

[QUOTE=PirateMorgan;2225397]I lived there a few years ago. The place is a waste. There isn't even a performance theater there. There is nothing. Why incur the expense of coming from Manila? Waste of money.[/QUOTE]Hi Pirate,

Ever since Silver Dollar bar moved and then closed down I agree the bar scene in Cebu sucks. The Mango bars are way overpriced and the selection is not good. Seems as though the Koreans have cornered the market on any beauties. If I didn't have some regulars there with big tits I would never go there. On the south side of the island there are some nice, quiet resort areas (E. G. , Alcoy, Dalaguete) but you have got to bring your own babe. Cheers.

[QUOTE=PirateMorgan;2225397]I lived there a few years ago. The place is a waste. There isn't even a performance theater there. There is nothing. Why incur the expense of coming from Manila? Waste of money.[/QUOTE]I don't go to performance theatre so no loss.

It all depends on what you are looking for. Never really spent time there so cannot comment but it will be my next stop off after Manila. I'll take a Airbnb for a month then decide if I want to stay longer.

Since I am not into bars and clubs and that sort of activities, I just may find what I am looking for there and decide to stay longer.

[QUOTE=Advantageous;2225372]Hey all, noticed the last post referencing Liv or J-Ave is from about this time last year; are those spots and the surrounding club scene enticing enough to warrant a visit from Manila?

I'm aware there are other night options, but this approach is the type I prefer, knowing the years left where I won't be woefully out of place at these types of places are dwindling. It sounds like one might have to get into a series of bottle wars to wrest attention away from the Koreans in VIP, but I'm okay with that. I'm more concerned with the quantity and quality of women at these spots Thurs-Saturday, and 5 k+ barfines are no problem at all if it's for the right one.

Sorry for getting wordy: is the Mango Square nightlife scene a welcome enough departure from it's Makati counterpart to warrant a visit? Nightclubs are traditionally a bit more fickle as far as where the crowd goes, so RTFF past 2017 only helps me so much. And if you're in Cebu over the Fall, always happy to buy the first round (unless you're doing some wild sketch-ass illegal shit in which case sorry no beers)![/QUOTE]Cebu is way better than AC which I see as a soulless pit mainly but many would disagree. Need more patience than AC and the Mango night scene is smaller while the clubs are good (the one you mentioned and others). Plenty around if you are patient. Koreans are everywhere not just Cebu as are the Chinese I just ignore them even if I go t a KTV (rarely I admit).

I prefer Cebu to Burgos also but again some of friends from the board would disagree with that statement. Just depends on what you like / want / are used to.

If you visit Cebu make sure is for a week or so and that way you will benefit. FI a flying 1-2 day visit it maybe be tougher.

[QUOTE=PirateMorgan;2225397]I lived there a few years ago. The place is a waste. There isn't even a performance theater there. There is nothing. Why incur the expense of coming from Manila? Waste of money.[/QUOTE]I live here on and off and I would 100% disagree with you but each to his own as some see AC as the height of taste and intellect LOL. I don't, never have and rarely visit AC unless for some sex party that I do here in Cebu LOL.

And why come to Cebu for a theatre? Have you been to those in Manila? And what about AC? Bigger LOL.

Lots to do in Cebu if you know what to do, where to go, have patience etc.

Am not into bars (like KG) and rarely visit unless some suggests we go an look, no need pick up as have plenty friends. Nice to sit in my 'office' and watch the world go by at times and is a lovely place IMHO. If you prefer Manila or AC good for you but is not for everyone.

[QUOTE=WickedRoger;2225502]Cebu is way better than AC which I see as a soulless pit mainly but many would disagree. Need more patience than AC and the Mango night scene is smaller while the clubs are good (the one you mentioned and others). Plenty around if you are patient. Koreans are everywhere not just Cebu as are the Chinese I just ignore them even if I go t a KTV (rarely I admit).

I prefer Cebu to Burgos also but again some of friends from the board would disagree with that statement. Just depends on what you like / want / are used to.

If you visit Cebu make sure is for a week or so and that way you will benefit. FI a flying 1-2 day visit it maybe be tougher.[/QUOTE]Got it; I was thinking of something within the 2-3 week range, but after reading your post and listening to some other wisdom, I think I'll give it a trial run for a week and sus it out from there. Between the Mango Square clubs, does one tend to have hotter / a higher number of higher-quality girls in / around the VIP area?

[QUOTE=Advantageous;2225606]Got it; I was thinking of something within the 2-3 week range, but after reading your post and listening to some other wisdom, I think I'll give it a trial run for a week and sus it out from there. Between the Mango Square clubs, does one tend to have hotter / a higher number of higher-quality girls in / around the VIP area?[/QUOTE]All sorts but watch out in the Mango area for the street kids (as you would likely elsewhere also) as they can crowd you and have great skills in picking your pockets (same in Colon area).

Icon is popular and I know some of the dancers and shagged one of the nicest ones so PM me if that is your idea of fun but I know some nice ones and they are all sorts, some super kinky (aka Vampiress) some very hot but straight and others in between but bi and love anal. But this has taken time, am patient and a nice guy etc.

[QUOTE=WickedRoger;2225505]I live here on and off and I would 100% disagree with you but each to his own as some see AC as the height of taste and intellect LOL. I don't, never have and rarely visit AC unless for some sex party that I do here in Cebu LOL.

And why come to Cebu for a theatre? Have you been to those in Manila? And what about AC? Bigger LOL.

Lots to do in Cebu if you know what to do, where to go, have patience etc.

Am not into bars (like KG) and rarely visit unless some suggests we go an look, no need pick up as have plenty friends. Nice to sit in my 'office' and watch the world go by at times and is a lovely place IMHO. If you prefer Manila or AC good for you but is not for everyone.[/QUOTE]I have to agree with WR here. I went to Cebu in August and had a complete whale of time. It was not my first visit to Cebu, but it was after a long time and exclusively for mongering. My previous trips were really corporate getaways.

The key is preparation. Get to know the lay of the land, the hot spots in town, pricing, custom & practice, places to eat, places to just chill out, short day trips from the city, etc. Its all out there on the internet. PM a couple of veterans like WR here, who will happily help, if you ask intelligent questions that reflect your preparation.

And then, you will have the same whale of time I did.

[QUOTE=Blanquiceleste;2225798]I have to agree with WR here. I went to Cebu in August and had a complete whale of time. It was not my first visit to Cebu, but it was after a long time and exclusively for mongering. My previous trips were really corporate getaways.

The key is preparation. Get to know the lay of the land, the hot spots in town, pricing, custom & practice, places to eat, places to just chill out, short day trips from the city, etc. Its all out there on the internet. PM a couple of veterans like WR here, who will happily help, if you ask intelligent questions that reflect your preparation.

And then, you will have the same whale of time I did.[/QUOTE]I would completely agree here. I visited Cebu recently for a short trip (4 nights) and had not done any pre work as in pipelining through any social media. All I could manage to have a good time was with girls from the bars. Drinks and BF all were expensive and you don't have a choice there but to pay. Last minute social media didn't materialise and neither was the quality available in the Discos during my visit enticing. I did visit both clubs in mango mall as well as Liv and octagon, waste of time and money this time.

Daytime was pretty much nothing to do except finish work and in spare time become a mall rat or go eating. Didn't have enough time to do any day trips. Luckily for me I was traveling to AC from here hence had good times there. But overall Cebu is a very different scene and one cannot visit it like a typical monger destination. Girls are sweet, service quality is good or maybe I was lucky.

I would be visiting in near future and would invest time in social media beforehand to make my trip better comparatively.

I visited Cebu City around five years ago, and I had an amazing time. I enjoyed the great body-to-body massage given in a private room by a 19 years sweet stunner. The shop name was maasage4 you near Park Mall. I found great freelancer in Mango square, too. Now I am going to visit Cebu city soon, just for two days, and I don't have any idea, about the current situation. People are saying, that you should invest time in preparation, and using Apps, but there are tons. Which one works good in Cebu city? What would you suggest if you have just two days?

Thanks for help in advance.

Stopped by yesterday. March 27,2022.

Beer is 75 php.

Lady Drinks are 220 php.

BF is 5 K.

[QUOTE=BigKahuna;2679555]Stopped by yesterday. March 27,2022.

Beer is 75 php.

Lady Drinks are 220 php.

BF is 5 K.[/QUOTE]What would you rate the talent on the looks scale and also any of the other bars nearby look like they were open yet? Going to be there in a few weeks! Thanks for the report.

[QUOTE=ThomasCasey;2679583]What would you rate the talent on the looks scale and also any of the other bars nearby look like they were open yet? Going to be there in a few weeks! Thanks for the report.[/QUOTE]Paying 5000 Barfine plus 1000 on drinks before and 1000 as tip. They must be looking gorgeous!

(In reality those are just off the shelf single mothers, not wanted anymore by the local guys and now doing her job).

[QUOTE=BigKahuna;2679555]Stopped by yesterday. March 27,2022.

Beer is 75 php.

Lady Drinks are 220 php.

BF is 5 K.[/QUOTE]I was in there Friday night just before midnight. Maybe 4-5 customers and 15 or so girls. Didn't see any cute girls. Confirmed 5000 for barfine. Philly's had a couple cute freelancers and a couple cute hostesses. Got phone number of hostess but didn't feel like waiting until she got off work at 3 am to hook up. She was ok but nothing on the cute girls you see in Pattaya bars.

The quality of mango / Viking was never worth 5 k barfine, in fact not even worth half of that amount. When Viking first reopened during travel bans those girls would literally do anything for 300 tip (read my previous posts for details) and some of them worked freelancers online or behind national bookstore for 1 k. I actually enjoyed Viking / Mango during travel bans. But now that all tourists are back so I will never set a foot there again.

Does anybody have info on club wild girls in Lapu Lapu? I believe it's bikini bar I think?

Hey everyone. Does anyone know of any bars that show / stream mixed martial arts events? Specifically for this coming Sunday at noon local time for UFC 282.

Not entirely sure if it'll be offered given that it'll be a pay per view event.

Thanks in advance!

Over a couple of days I swung past Ayala Terraces and had some drinks at Social.

First night I arrived about 7 pm. A couple of tables of what I would suggest are freelancers or dancers that had that friendly glance around the room. Lots of regular bar goers in groups. I had someone lined up for 8 pm so I didn't follow-up any of the glances. In contrast to the 'glancers' are the death stares. I didn't need to return these looks they were very clearly ladyboys, group of 3 sitting near Brique. Just way to obvious. It's an interesting 'tell' how a real girl can give a flirting glance but a LB has to over compensate. Lesson for Ph newbies.

Second visit I got there about 9, this time wanting to find the glancers but they had moved on. Had a beer and left.

I also found the waitresses at Social reasonably flirty and gave a nice positive vibe. But never shit in your own nest.

I would recommend Social for an early evening pickup place if nothing else on the agenda.