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This is a thread to discuss the named topics and share my adventures here in the Dominican Republic (DR). A catch all place for things that just don't fit into the action packed threads of the different cities that are focused solely on the pro action. Cultural observations, philosophy, economics, game, chica psychology, negotiation, and anything else that leads to getting the panties on the floor action (POF) that we are all looking for.
AFC wanted to stay in all day, just chill with her friend and use the pool. We hopped in the Grand Jefe (Big Boss) mobile to go pick up her friend. After we got back to the apartment it started raining very hard here. Pool activities were out. So we went back to her friends house so she could get her manicure / pedicure supplies.
Her friend is a cute little thing that is a couple of inches taller than my girl who is 5'3". Her friend has a cute little spinner body like my girl. My girl is a 10. Her friend is a 8. She is a police officer. But she gets paid so little that she has to do nails on the side to make ends meet. That the biggest shame of this country. Public servants forced to make money in other ways to survive.
After her friend took care of my girls feet and toes, she had her friend take care of me. So, here I am on Valentine's Day getting a my hands and feet done by this attractive 21 year old, in front of my TV, on my chase, in my living room. When she was finished I asked her how much. She refused to take money from my girl because she is her friend. But she didn't have a problem charging me. And I didn't mind paying. She said 300 pesos. I gave it to her with a smile and a 50 peso tip. Man I love this country inside of my four walls.
Then all AFC wanted was to go out to the local shack that's really close in the barrio (neighborhood) behind my building and get some Yaroa (I think that is what it is called). We came back and I ate mine at the table while she was on the chase watching TV.
I give them BFE. So I get GFE.
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;1840008]AFC wanted to stay in all day, just chill with her friend and use the pool. We hopped in the Grand Jefe (Big Boss) mobile to go pick up her friend. After we got back to the apartment it started raining very hard here. Pool activities were out. So we went back to her friends house so she could get her manicure / pedicure supplies.
Her friend is a cute little thing that is a couple of inches taller than my girl who is 5'3". Her friend has a cute little spinner body like my girl. My girl is a 10. Her friend is a 8. She is a police officer. But she gets paid so little that she has to do nails on the side to make ends meet. That the biggest shame of this country. Public servants forced to make money in other ways to survive.
After her friend took care of my girls feet and toes, she had her friend take care of me. So, here I am on Valentine's Day getting a my hands and feet done by this attractive 21 year old, in front of my TV, on my chase, in my living room..[/QUOTE]First, welcome to the hole (what I call the bottom part of the DR forum). Keep the reports coming dude. We talked at the party and I got the impression that you were satisfied with your style even though I offered my opinion on handling things different, and I decided to move past it to other topics. But now that you want to discuss things on an open forum, let me share my views.
I learned the same lessons as you but let me offer up some more to maybe help others.
Taxi scam:
I had a main girl who would visit me at Napolitano back in 2010. She would charge me 400 pesos each way for a cab and I would give her 2500-3000 pesos for dinner and an over night stay. After the second trip I noticed that the same raggedy, old taxi would pick her up and drop her off with the same guy driving. I asked "Jose the tout" about this and he said from where she lived to Napolitano is 150-200 pesos each way. He said girls have regular taxis that give them discounts. My next time I called her I said she was only going to get 200 pesos for a taxi and she protested so I hung up the phone after telling her to forget the date. Five seconds later she said she was on her way. I never paid more than 200 pesos for her taxi again. Girls will over-charge for a taxi to unsuspecting newbies.
Drinks:
Girls will ask you to buy them a beer and we think its only 90 Pesos, why not? But then she orders a Carona beer at 300 pesos and we don't know the difference until the bill comes. Always tell the waitress or bartender that the girl wants a presidente piqueno so everything is understood.
Dinner:
A girl I met through a couple in Cuba always had us double dating with me paying the full bill. After the first expensive dinner I explained to my girl that the money we spent on food should have gone to her for being with me alone. She cut the friends back to their disgust but my girl had to understand the rules and not play the full game.
Back to Subcmdr that "I don't mind mind paying" mentality should have limits. No price was previously discussed for the mani / pedi and they were riding in your jeep and hanging out at your house (and came to swim in your pool) but when it came to conclusion, you weren't her friend so you had to pay? Your main girl should have checked her for running this bullshit on her man but she played along. If you take them out for wings and the bill comes and you say" I'm paying for my lady but her friend has to pay for her wings' both those Dominicanas would have called you cheap and cussed you out before refusing to pay. What made you ask her "How much do I owe you" if no money was previously discussed for this service among so called friends? Did you feel sorry for the cop who had to do manicures on the side? She didn't feel good enough to give you the friends discount?
I got a manicure the day before the super bowl at this salon in Andres. It was 300 pesos and she was professional. She sterilized the equipment, soaked my hands, trimmed my nails and the sides then filed them. She finished with a brush to get the dead skin off my hands and a clear coat. If she did all this for a mani and pedi it was a great deal. Just maybe the girl didn't follow through with the hustle which was to charge you for both because she thought you were a nice guy but I still have a problem with your main girl letting you be charged anything if it was set up like friends hanging out killing an evening. Tell your girl not to bring friends or family around to hustle you unless its previously discussed, and that should end that.
I'm probably going to get the standard "Its my fucking money and I will spend it like I want" answer but if you can't understand or care what is really going on, then this forum should be titled "spending my money and I don't give a fuck what anyone thinks LOL".
Hopefully you will review this reply as coming from a friend and not just a poster here. Peace.
Mr. Gogo,
Thank you for your post. Your response is exactly why I started this new thread in the hole in the first place. I believe that your information, experiences and opinions are useful. And that is exactly what I want. Your response is completely different from the initial responses that I received when I first started posting in the upper sections of the ISG-Dominican Republic Forum. You are not attempting to ridicule or engage in an exercise of one-upmanship. Your response was reasoned and well thought out. It explains your experiences and details what you learned and how you corrected them. You provided solid information on how to handle chicas (girls) here on the island. And quite honestly, I don't really think we differ in how we approach things. You pointed out to me in our conversation on Super Bowl Sunday that when the writer is writing about things already experienced sometimes important details are left out that leave questions for the reader.
If I understood our conversation correctly, and the posts we have shared with each other in the open form and through private messaging, you think I'm getting ripped off, scammed, and hustled (your words). But, it's not really that important that we agree. It's not really that important what my style is or what your style is. And it's not really about the money. The world of economics is not absolute. We all place different values on different things. This is because of the Concept of Bounded Rationality in decision-making.
I would like to introduce you to the concept of Bounded Rationality in decision-making (my apologies if you are already familiar with the concept). I will go through it for the benefit of others unfamiliar with it.
This is the concept that concept that decision makers (irrespective of their level of intelligence) have to work under three unavoidable constraints:
1. Only limited, often unreliable, information is available regarding possible alternatives and their consequences.
2. The human mind has only limited capacity to evaluate and process the information that is available.
3. Only a limited amount of time is available to make a decision. Therefore even individuals who intend to make rational choices are bound to make satisficing (rather than maximizing or optimizing) choices in complex situations.
Let's apply the concept to my situation on V day. Her plan was to hang out and go swimming with her friend. My thoughts were that's a great plan all things considered. Not having to go through usual V day hassles. Gives me the opportunity to bestow valuable benefits on others without it costing me a dime, thereby creating goodwill. This is because I've already paid for use of the pool in my monthly rent. And the cost of picking up her friend is simply the per kilometer cost of operating the Grande Jefe (Big Boss) mobile and my time. And my time had already been allocated to AFC as this was V day.
Bad weather that day scrubbed the initial plans. So, we adapted and switched gears. As I stated in my original V day post. We returned to get her friends manicure / pedicure equipment. And when we did she returned with two bags of manicure / pedicure supplies, equipment and her plastic bowl for soaking, washing and rinsing your hands and feet. When we returned to the house she boiled water and placed her instruments in the boiling water and they hung out in the kitchen for a while. They returned and her friend did her hand and feet and then it was my turn. Was she a professional? I don't know. I didn't ask to see her cosmetology license. But I've been enough in enough salons and had enough manicure / pedicures to recognize the equipment, processes and products that she used similar to the "professional" manicure / pedicures I've had in the past. She performed a proper manicure / pedicure. She went over the top when it came to working on my feet because I play tennis and it is really hard on them. The results were of the same quality as I've had by favorite nail technicians in the ee. Uu (United States). And it was the same when it comes to my hands.
The factors you are failing to consider: Weather caused a change in the original plans; Cost of transportation to your salon and return; That I received my manicure / pedicure in my living room in front of my TV (The feeling was quite decadent); She was rubbing her breasts all over my feet while she was working. (A minor sensual pleasure but enjoyable none the less); She gave me an excellent massage on legs / feet and hands / arms; She was professional in how she provided her service (she is just doing what another poster on here recommends: only running a business with no overhead).
How Bounded Rationality applies to my V Day.
Given the limited information that was available to me regarding possible alternatives and their consequences, my brain's limited capacity to evaluate and process the information available and with only a limited time available to make my decision, I made one that was satisficing. I paid 300 pesos (6 dollars and 55 cents US) for my manicure / pedicure and gave her a 50 peso tip (1 dollar and 9 cents US). Wao!
[QUOTE=MrGogo;1840080]...but if you can't understand or care what is really going on...[/QUOTE]Of course I do. It's very clear to me. You are bothered by how I spend my money. You are bothered by how I run my operations. Never mind that fact that I was very satisfied with the service I received. I don't believe in taking advantage of others just because I can. I live here. I'm not here to leave a path of carnage and wreckage after getting my dick off at the lowest price possible and then hopping on a plane.
With all due respect Mr. Gogo, if you want to play the role of the latin male neanderthal, knock yourself the fuck out. I'm sure your girls leave happy and satisfied. And you never give up one more peso than necessary to bust a nut. But don't hate because I run a different operation than you. My operations does not require me to be on the clock because I've got wheels up by a certain time. It was V day. My girl didn't ask for much. And her friend was alone and made a little money that day off of me. You need to tell me what was so bad about that. I honestly don't see how you could have perceived my experience so negatively.
Now, if you can't see my point of view, then maybe you should rename your section "ATTENTION READ THIS: Mr. Gogo knows everything about girls in the Dominican Republic and you don't. " LOL! Meanwhile, I'm going to spread the news that if it feels this good getting used, they can just keep on using me; until they use me up! ROTFLMAO!
Gozando vivir mi amigo (Enjoying life my friend).
Blast from the past.
On the contrary my blog brother, how you spend your money has no effect on me but when you demonstrate that you don't know Latin women I feel a need to offer my advice. Latin women like to follow and be led, being it dancing, love making or just general things in life. Being perceived as gullible and not knowledgeable to this only leads to men being taken advantage of by a Latina. Its not about taking advantage of a situation but demonstrating that you are to be respected. Understanding the "Latin male Neanderthal" will allow you to enjoy Latin women at half the price generous gringo pays, as you said you live there. As I posted I paid before 800 pesos for a taxi and and 3000 pesos for the girl which I think is very generous, so I'm not a cheepo trying to get the best deal but I don't like being taken advantage of. Understand there was a growth process I had to learn to cut through the bullshit and develop a situation where mutual respect was required.
What would I have done differently? First, I would wonder why my main girl would bring a friend for our special Valentines day. Then I would have stated that we are all friends so why charge me? I would do this to test their reaction. Would my main girl forsake me and side with her friend? Would her friend get hostile? Would they call me cheap? Their reaction would tell me things about them. Maybe they would both say I'm right and they wouldn't charge me. I would have my answers to what I'm dealing with and in the end I probably would pay the 300 pesos for that info.
You have the jeep, you have the crib with the pool, you have the money, be that "Latin Neanderthal" and call the shots and dictate what goes and what doesn't, be the boss. As you said" I live there".
Early in my relationship with AFC, I got sick. She had a heavy course load (as a pre-med student in university) and was able not be there to take care of me. She was literally crying on the phone because of it. I was fine with it. Don't have any difficulties handing anything in my life. I told her right from the beginning school and work should be her priorities. I would be there when she had time.
She called her favorite taxi and sent me food in it. I had to pay for the food and the taxi. But I did not mind. Because, although I had not been in country that long. I knew the price of the food and the taxi ride was correct. He actually gave me a receipt for the food. And I gave him a tip.
My number two said, "I'll take care of you. You take care of me. " I respect that. I also respect that it was over a year before she said "Te quiero" (I love you). I believe her. After hearing so many women tell me they love me or that they want to be my girlfriend after the first fuck. Damn straight! I believe her.
After we had been seeing each other for seven months, I ask her how she's doing. She says not well. I can tell she's having a serious problem. I ask what is it. She said "It's money". She tells me that her ex refused to buy his sons school uniforms and she needed money to enroll in school. I asked: "How much do you need?" She stated that she needed 3000 pesos. But if I could not give her all of it anything I could give her she would appreciate. Now, this is a girl that has never asked me for anything. Except for something to eat and drink when in casa (house) with me. When she came by the next day I was just going to give her the money she needed, but she was having none of that. She came thorough the door stripped. Got on her knees, sucked, no she gorged and gagged herself on my dick. Bent over for me. Flipped over for me. She rode. Then we finished up in our favorite position. After some rest and cuddling. She went down on me like a nuclear sub commander and did not surface until "me leche fue en su estomago (my milk was in her stomach). ".
It is about helping good people when they help you. And if you are conducting business as opposed to building relationships then you better know your prices. Because if you get ripped off by someone here in the DR that is your own damn fault.
[QUOTE=MrGogo;1840546]...but when you demonstrate that you don't know Latin women I feel a need to offer my advice.[/QUOTE]I appreciate that Mr. Gogo. You know everything there is to know about Latin women and I know nothing. It's amazing I can even get pussy here and that I'm not broke and in the street crying over the fact that "I ben don wrong" given my total lack of knowledge of Latin woman.
[QUOTE=MrGogo;1840546]Latin women like to follow and be led, being it dancing, love making or just general things in life. Being perceived as gullible and not knowledgeable to this only leads to men being taken advantage of by a Latina. Its not about taking advantage of a situation but demonstrating that you are to be respected.[/QUOTE]With this I agree. But I fail understand how I have demonstrated a lack of knowledge about Latin women or gullibility.
[QUOTE=MrGogo;1840546]Understanding the "Latin male Neanderthal" will allow you to enjoy Latin women at half the price generous gringo pays, as you said you live there.[/QUOTE]So because I don't follow the Mr. Gogo gorilla pimp style of chica management, my girls don't respect me. And I overpay for their company.
[QUOTE=MrGogo;1840546]What would I have done differently? First, I would wonder why my main girl would bring a friend for our special Valentines day. Then I would have stated that we are all friends so why charge me? I would do this to test their reaction. Would my main girl forsake me and side with her friend? Would her friend get hostile? Would they call me cheap? Their reaction would tell me things about them. Maybe they would both say I'm right and they wouldn't charge me. I would have my answers to what I'm dealing with and in the end I probably would pay the 300 pesos for that info.[/QUOTE]Well Mr. Gogo, I'm not you! I hate holidays and tradition. V Day is a hallmark holiday designed and perpetrated on the world by capitalist interests. To the contrary, the just any other day mentality that my girl had for V Day was perfectly fine with me. And I didn't even see my number two. All she wanted to know was where her V Day gift was. Because I live here I don't have to wonder about the loyalties of my girls. I know exactly with ones are loyal to me and which ones are loyal to my money. But I never forget the real question: Is there a difference? I find it interesting that you have to actively play games with people in order to ascertain motives. I'm much more refined and distinguished. And more importantly, it is precisely because I live here that I have the time to make observations and allow those around me to demonstrate their loyalties to me. I've spent a lifetime as an observer. It's my nature.
[QUOTE=MrGogo;1840546]You have the jeep, you have the crib with the pool, you have the money, be that "Latin Neanderthal" and call the shots and dictate what goes and what doesn't, be the boss. As you said" I live there".[/QUOTE]Damn straight Mr. Gogo! You have the most amazing ability to state the obvious. You go ahead, be the "Latin Neanderthal". My suggestion to you is to continue to wield your pimp stick with authority and keep your chicas in line. It works for you. It is you!
Now, I am much more distinguished. I choose to exercise and employ a different leadership style with my girls. I lead by example. I explain what I like and what I want. I exercise subtle control precisely because I have the apartment with the ocean view, the grand jefe (Big Boss) mobile and the money. No expenditure of money happens without my approval. And I get exactly what I want. That a man of your worldly experience cannot recognize the effectiveness of my leadership style is surprising to me.
But there are two sayings that apply here Mr. Gogo:
1. When you are a hammer. The entire world looks like a nail.
2. The Kia owner always believes the BMW owner paid too much for a car.
Of course I do!
I try not to laugh at the guys that come back-and-forth and think they are really know something about the Dominican Republic while they are passing through. You don't really know a place until you live there. I'm not just saying this about the DR. Same thing happened to me when I moved to Las Vegas. I have been going to Las Vegas since I was a kid with my parents. As I grew up and became an adult, I continued to go there. But it wasn't until I moved there that I really began to know Vegas. And if you think you know Vegas because you visit a lot. I can tell you for certain that you don't. Life as a resident there is very different. Same for the DR. But I'm really going to reference Santo Domingo. Because that's what I know. I'll stipulate to the fact that there are any number of people on the forum that know a lot more about other cities in the DR than I do.
Most of the guys in this forum are dealing with women who regularly fuck for money (not the women who consider themselves to be in the top tier of their society). The women who have jobs, goto university and have ambition to make something out of themselves. Most of guys on this forum don't know a damn thing about the Dominican Republic past how to pay to get into a woman's pants. And any thought that these women that are fucking them for money give a damn thing about them other than what they have in their wallet is self-delusion.
For those with the "Kia mentality" who are gnashing their teeth when they read my posts, rest assured. I'm not driving up the price for the street Chicas (girls), Casa girls and Dominican Cupid chicas that are looking for a foreign man to fund their life. I'm flying in FAA class A airspace. Most are unqualified to fly at my altitude. They strictly operate at lower altitudes. There is a level, the 10% of high quality mujers (women) that exist here, that most will never see nor would the woman pay a bit of attention to them because they lack of refinement, language skills and have the "Kia mentality".
When you tell one of your mujers (women), as I have before, that you are sick and they buy or prepare food for you, then call a taxi they have a relationship with and send the food to you in the taxi, well that's a whole another level of human interaction that most of guys in this Forum will ever understand as long as they castigate my methods and the way that I do things. I'm hanging with young women who are going to university and studying medicine, engineering, business, government. We are strolling through Agora mall. They are shopping. They have their own money. Not even interested in mine. They are just traveling in style with me. We are chilling out in the mall at Santo Domingo's having cafe (coffee). No different than any other modern city.
The way I operate would be considered being a sugar daddy in the United States. But I do it for a 10th of the price I would have to pay in the US. I'm offering insight into a different game. It's not for everybody but it works for me. I appreciate everyone's insight and I listen to them. But most of what I read simply is not representative of my experiences. And most are not interested in reading, understanding and appreciating my experiences.
I'm living like a motherfucking boss, like a 1%er. A lifestyle that I could never even get close to in the US for the same money and I'm enjoying every minute of it. So if that lifestyle requires me to pay over two times what someone else does ($3 at Rainbow verses $7 at Forever 21) for a dress so be it. Why do I buy my girls, computers, cellphones, name brand clothes, shoes and designer handbags? Because I motherfucking can! The girls that I bring into my life give me experiences impossible to pay for. They come to the table with way more than just pussy! I suited up to attend a military reception. One of my girls invited me to her families 24th gathering. One of her Aunt's was back from Spain to celebrate the event. She owns a house here and one in Spain. All of this has required time and investment of energy into developing real relationships with people. It requires Spanish skills and the perception that I have enough money to be in their class.
I understand the perspective here on the forum, but nobody here seems to be able, or has the desire to understand mine. I hope this gives you better insight into where I'm coming from when I post. I'm considering the possibility that maybe no one is really interested in what I'm doing. They are simply interested in advancing their views, inflating their egos and ridiculing others. Bragging about their conquests as if sticking their dick into women who regularly fuck for money requires game.
You want GFE. I don't believe you can pay for that. You have to give BFE. And remember that your vacation is my life each and every motherfucking day!
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;1840815]Of course I do!
I try not to laugh at the guys that come back-and-forth and think they are really know something about the Dominican Republic while they are passing through. You don't really know a place until you live there. I'm not just saying this about the DR. Same thing happened to me when I moved to Las Vegas. I have been going to Las Vegas since I was a kid with my parents. As I grew up and became an adult, I continued to go there. But it wasn't until I moved there that I really began to know Vegas. And if you think you know Vegas because you visit a lot. I can tell you for certain that you don't. Life as a resident there is very different. Same for the DR. But I'm really going to reference Santo Domingo. Because that's what I know. I'll stipulate to the fact that there are any number of people on the forum that know a lot more about other cities in the DR than I do.
Most of the guys in this forum are dealing with women who regularly fuck for money (not the women who consider themselves to be in the top tier of their society). The women who have jobs, goto university and have ambition to make something out of themselves. Most of guys on this forum don't know a damn thing about the Dominican Republic past how to pay to get into a woman's pants. And any thought that these women that are fucking them for money give a damn thing about them other than what they have in their wallet is self-delusion.
For those with the "Kia mentality" who are gnashing their teeth when they read my posts, rest assured. I'm not driving up the price for the street Chicas (girls), Casa girls and Dominican Cupid chicas that are looking for a foreign man to fund their life. I'm flying in FAA class A airspace. Most are unqualified to fly at my altitude. They strictly operate at lower altitudes. There is a level, the 10% of high quality mujers (women) that exist here, that most will never see nor would the woman pay a bit of attention to them because they lack of refinement, language skills and have the "Kia mentality".
When you tell one of your mujers (women), as I have before, that you are sick and they buy or prepare food for you, then call a taxi they have a relationship with and send the food to you in the taxi, well that's a whole another level of human interaction that most of guys in this Forum will ever understand as long as they castigate my methods and the way that I do things. I'm hanging with young women who are going to university and studying medicine, engineering, business, government. We are strolling through Agora mall. They are shopping. They have their own money. Not even interested in mine. They are just traveling in style with me. We are chilling out in the mall at Santo Domingo's having cafe (coffee). No different than any other modern city.
The way I operate would be considered being a sugar daddy in the United States. But I do it for a 10th of the price I would have to pay in the US. I'm offering insight into a different game. It's not for everybody but it works for me. I appreciate everyone's insight and I listen to them. But most of what I read simply is not representative of my experiences. And most are not interested in reading, understanding and appreciating my experiences.
I'm living like a motherfucking boss, like a 1%er. A lifestyle that I could never even get close to in the US for the same money and I'm enjoying every minute of it. So if that lifestyle requires me to pay over two times what someone else does ($3 at Rainbow verses $7 at Forever 21) for a dress so be it. Why do I buy my girls, computers, cellphones, name brand clothes, shoes and designer handbags? Because I motherfucking can! The girls that I bring into my life give me experiences impossible to pay for. They come to the table with way more than just pussy! I suited up to attend a military reception. One of my girls invited me to her families 24th gathering. One of her Aunt's was back from Spain to celebrate the event. She owns a house here and one in Spain. All of this has required time and investment of energy into developing real relationships with people. It requires Spanish skills and the perception that I have enough money to be in their class.
I understand the perspective here on the forum, but nobody here seems to be able, or has the desire to understand mine. I hope this gives you better insight into where I'm coming from when I post. I'm considering the possibility that maybe no one is really interested in what I'm doing. They are simply interested in advancing their views, inflating their egos and ridiculing others. Bragging about their conquests as if sticking their dick into women who regularly fuck for money requires game.
You want GFE. I don't believe you can pay for that. You have to give BFE. And remember that your vacation is my life each and every motherfucking day![/QUOTE]I had a chica make me some home-made cough medicine with honey, red wine, and god knows what else and it nearly killed me. But the fact that she went to the trouble of making the medicine and bringing it to me was very moving. It was a while ago and I think I gave her a few hundred pesos as a thank you gift. I now realize I was politically incorrect and I beg for the forgiveness of the board. Next time I would tell her to fuck off and drink it herself.
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;1840835]Without a doubt you have failed to follow the Mr. Gogo school of chica management. If I understand the Mr. Gogo school of chica management techniques correctly:
1. You should have questioned her intentions. 2. You shouldn't have drank her cough medicine that was not from a pharmacy. 3. After tasting it you should have spoken to her harshly for disrespecting your mouth, by preparing her ill tasting elixir and bringing it to you. 4. And you most certainly should not have given her a couple of hundred pesos. After all, how much did the chica have invested in her home-made remedy.
We are going to have send you back for remedial training. LOL.[/QUOTE]My memory fails me a bit as this was about 5 years ago, but I believe it was one of the two chicas Jenny and Kathy mentioned by Tempoecorto just a couple of days ago on this board. At that time those two girls were renting a room in the same hotel as Tempoecorto and myself, sharing with a third girl and paying $400 per month for a somewhat crummy room. So they were kind of honorary mongers. They complained that it did not have a view of the pool and of course one bathroom could never be enough for three chicas to make themselves beautiful. They used to come up to my apartment which had a kitchen and use my stove to fix their meals and use my computer to communicate with their online "friends". All I got out of the deal was. Well, I forget, but whatever it was I enjoyed with all three of them, although never all three at one time. I now realize that they were disrespecting me by using my kitchen, but at the time it seemed like a good idea and it saved me having to go outside to get a girl..
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;1840835]Without a doubt you have failed to follow the Mr. Gogo school of chica management. [/QUOTE]LOL. I guess they are only trying to help but this witchcraft of remedies that they are privy to can go to hell. A couple of days ago I had stomach problems. The girl I brought to BQ's party told me to chop up fresh garlic and carrots together and eat it. (Hierve un diente de ajo con zanahoria rallada y tomate lo). Then a couple of hours later said did you do it? LOL. Hell no. I took my ass to a pharmacy.
Then I was out to eat because I thought my stomach was finally able to hold something. I sent her a picture of the fresh Thai chicken noodle soup that I was about to feast on and she said that looks horrible. I said you are Dominican. You don't know anything about food. All you know is carne y papas, pollo y arroz.
Then when I hurt my foot a few months ago they all wanted to tell me a remedy to make it better. Never mind that I have been going to a freakin podiatric surgeon twice a week for the past 3 months and they have had to cut out flesh and grow new meat and skin to rehab the area. But want me to try their outhouse remedy vs how many years of professional medical experience.
Don't listen to them island chicas no matter how kind you think they are trying to be. They will have you 6 feet under down there. Next patient, same treatment.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1840850]LOL. I guess they are only trying to help but this witchcraft of remedies that they are privy to can go to hell. A couple of days ago I had stomach problems. The girl I brought to BQ's party told me to chop up fresh garlic and carrots together and eat it. (Hierve un diente de ajo con zanahoria rallada y tomate lo). Then a couple of hours later said did you do it? LOL. Hell no. I took my ass to a pharmacy.
Then I was out to eat because I thought my stomach was finally able to hold something. I sent her a picture of the fresh Thai chicken noodle soup that I was about to feast on and she said that looks horrible. I said you are Dominican. You don't know anything about food. All you know is carne y papas, pollo y arroz.
Then when I hurt my foot a few months ago they all wanted to tell me a remedy to make it better. Never mind that I have been going to a freakin podiatric surgeon twice a week for the past 3 months and they have had to cut out flesh and grow new meat and skin to rehab the area. But want me to try their outhouse remedy vs how many years of professional medical experience.
Don't listen to them island chicas no matter how kind you think they are trying to be. They will have you 6 feet under down there. Next patient, same treatment.[/QUOTE][URL]http://www.dibdabdoo.com/articles/diseases/211/using-carrot-juice-for-relieving-constipation.html[/URL]
Actually carrot juice and garlic is recognized as a treatment for constipation, so not witchcraft. Carrot juices contain certain oils that work on the mucus membranes of the stomach and colon. This helps with digestion and starts your bowels functioning properly. Carrots are high in fiber and beta-carotene, an antioxidant, which the body converts to vitamin A. Carrots can make your stools softer and larger. Garlic helps in stimulating intestinal movements (peristalsis).
So actually that chica knew her shit. And carrots and garlic are cheaper than anything in the pharmacy. Next time you see her ask if she has a herbal remedy from the vegetable section to replace Viagra.
[QUOTE=Frannie;1840858]Actually carrot juice and garlic is recognized as a treatment for constipation, so not witchcraft.
So actually that chica knew her shit.[/QUOTE]And there in lies the issue. The problem was not that I could not go, but that I could not stop going. So that would have just compounded the interest.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1840872]And there in lies the issue. The problem was not that I could not go, but that I could not stop going. So that would have just compounded the interest.[/QUOTE]LOL. That is why she does not have a medical degree. It is important to take an accurate history and assess for allergies before prescribing treatment.
Since amoeba infections are so common in the DR, she should have ordered a microscopic examination of a stool sample, and then perhaps some Immodium, and an antibiotic like Flagyl if the stool sample was positive. If you want free medical consult in the DR, usually the pharmacists can make recommendations for common ailments such as diarrhea.
Yesterday, AFC was waiting for me on the curb with all of her stuff for me to pick her up. That was surprising as she usually is lollygagging around and I just wait for her to get ready while amusing myself with my iPhone. She loads her stuff up in the Grand Jefe (Big Boss) mobile hops in. Gives me a big hug and kiss. Tell me she missed me and we are off.
I was feeling bad all day and needed to get to grocery shop essential things for the kitchen. I wasn't able to get it done during the day. We decided to skip the La Sirena near her house opt for Bravo near mine because it is open late. She was hungry so we stopped by the shack in the barrio behind my building. There is a makeshift food court along the main drag and it has excellent street food. There is also a colmado (store) along the same block.
We park. I hop out and wait for to get out and come around. She's like wait. And drops down and ties my shoe. Then she takes my and guides me across the street, like they do old people here. LOL We get to our favorite shack and she ops for a burrito. I'm not hungry. But I do have a taste for a President light. She says, do you want me to buy one for you. I say yes. Give her a 1000 peso note (it's all I have) sit down in a plastic chair on the sidewalk and she's off.
After a brief moment her lovely body is headed back towards me. She has my beer and says that tells me the colmado (store) did not have change to the guy in the store had to go out and look for it. And I saw him. That's what he was doing. Checking with the other vendors to see if they could break the 1000 peso note. After a little while he gave her the high sign and she went back to the colmado and got the change. And brought it back to me. All of it. Her food was ready. She paid. And we headed back to the truck and I got the same safety escort back to the Grand Jefe mobile.
We get back to the apartment and park in our short term spot. I'm tight with front gate day and night security. So I can park pretty much wherever I like when they are there. We head up to my apartment where we just hang out a bit while she eats. She tells me about her plan for her new residence and other things about her day.
After she is finished eating we head back out for the day. Where she pushes the cart and gathers everything we need to just get us by in the morning. We return home park in our regular parking space and head back up my apartment. We share the load carrying in the groceries. She heads into the kitchen and puts the groceries away. I'm preparing her uniform because she doesn't iron very well. I'm getting rid of the wrinkles and putting those sharp creases in where she needs them so she will look great. Everything is set for tomorrow. She tells me that last week someone came to work 30 minutes late. And her commander gave him 3 days in jail. She tells me she doesn't want to be late. So we set our alarms and head to bed.
5:30 AM and the alarms go off. She hops out of bed come around and shuts mine off. Then she heads into the kitchen to make me lunch before she has to goto work. Now, this is her idea. Not mine. She cooks my lunch. Puts mine away. Preps her lunch and gets ready. Now you know what it's like when a woman has to get ready to go somewhere. So I'm just chilling waiting for her to get ready. It's five minutes after we need to leave and I'm just a little irritated. Going to have to put my foot in a bit together there on time. So, I do just that. We arrive just inside her 10 minute grace period. Too close for my comfort. But I'm not one that will have to do time. LOL.
Sambil Mall is nice. That's where I initially went to when I first moved here only because that was my friend, who has lived here for over 3 years introduced me to.
But AFC lived near Mega Central. And Mega Central is where the real eye candy is. It sits in the middle of several different barrios and attracts what I feel are the hottest, most accessible girls in the city. On top of that, they are coming to the end of a substantial renovation and upgrading the stores that are located there. And best of all, a metro stop is under construction within walking distance. In November, a Forever 21 opened there. That is the hottest clothing store for the 20 to 30 something crowd. Give a girl a gift from there. That carries weight. Maybe not for street chicas. But for the girls I deal with, yes! Now, I'm not suggesting you take your girl shopping there. Here is what I do. I watch the Forever 21 site for sales. Order your gifts from there. Buy the sizes by how you like your girls. Small are for your spinners, Medium for curvy, and Large for the amazons. Sometimes, Forever 21 has skirts, dresses and tops for as low as $2 on clearance sales. Sure you can buy clothes cheaper at Rainbow. But I've been inside a Rainbow. That's nothing but no name, poor quality crap. Fine for street chicas. But if you are rolling with young girls, the type you find making their way through life everyday like regular people, for them Forever 21 is the bomb!
Now, if you really want to go upscale head to Agora mall. Operating in Agora mall is strictly for veterans not for freshman. Bring that Sosua / Boca Chica attitude up in there. Better be prepared to strictly enjoy the eye candy. Agora has an excellent food court. It's a great place to chase girls if you have any real game. Or to bring a girl you want to impress. It looks just like the food court in any major mall in the United States. You can sit near the windows and have an elevated view of the city from four stories up. I took some great pictures the last time I was there. And the girls were smoking hot!
If you are into MILF's the hottest ones are to be found in Gallera 360. It's right across from Agora mall. Gallera 360 also has an a Americana. This is a hardware store that rivals any Home Depot or Lowes to be found in the United States. Next to Gallera 360 is IKEA. And the best thing about this area is that's it's right on a metro stop.
After I delivered the photos to BQ Ribs he reviewed all of them and told me he liked my work. He had asked to receive all the photos in raw format. Something I explained before that I don't usually do. But he is my friend, so no problem. He suggested that we take the metro to Agora mall and have lunch there. The metro costs 20 pesos for a one-way trip. And that alone makes it worth the trip. I liked it so much I bought a metro card. A metro card cost 100 pesos. And it is good for two trips. After that you recharge it for 360 pesos for 20 trips. It's new, clean and efficient. Down in the depths of the capital you will find real girls, working and going to school. Making their way about life. So much eye candy in there I must of looked like a real life bobble head. BQ Ribs had to keep telling me to watch my step.
It's Saturday, 71 degrees, mostly sunny, and the sea state is calm. There's a cruse ship that just came over the horizon. I can see it from my balcony. When it docks. I'll be able to see it from my bedroom window. A man is playing the sax in the park across from me. He's actually good. The music is soothing. AFC is snoozing and when she wakes up she'll parade her smoking hot body all over my apartment in just her panties. I'll fix breakfast. She'll fix lunch. Later in the afternoon we'll be headed to IKEA today. It's their 6th anniversary sale this weekend. Going to take my apartment game to another level with some IKEA chic. This is how roll. I'm not on vacation. I live here.
So, if you don't know. Now you know. Santo Domingo 101. Class is in session. And Professor SubCmdr invites anyone interested to partake of his knowledge.
You ever go to Venezuela Ave as I feel the baddest of the bad Girls are there. My favorite area in Santo Domingo. I have met some cool and very hot girls there.
[QUOTE=Revere;1842209]You ever go to Venezuela Ave as I feel the baddest of the bad Girls are there. My favorite area in Santo Domingo. I have met some cool and very hot girls there.[/QUOTE]Mr. Revere,
I've only been to Bar / Restaurant Barricia. I like to sit upstairs in the part that overlooks Venezuela Avenue and watch the movement on the street. I concur. When I'm up there I do see some of the baddest of the bad girls enjoying the nightlife.
Barricia is a nice place. I like it. The food is good. The prices are reasonable. You can sit outside and get away from the loud music. Or go inside and dance. The drinks are weak. But they are sweet and the girls love them. I've only taken a date there and then catch hell for looking around. SMH.
LOL.
Just because there are certain cultural norms here doesn't mean you have to follow them. Take for example male / female relationships. Most Dominican girls are NOT looking to hook up with a extranjero (foreigner). They are perfect satisfied with meeting a Dominican man and doing the Dominican cultural norm. So by definition, the women you meet in Sosua, Boca Chica, Santiago, Santo Domingo and any other city in the DR and online are already outside of their cultural norms. Dominican men look at them as lost. And they are not envious or jealous at all. And why should they be? They fuck for free or much less than you do when you are not time sharing the pussy during your fuck vacation. LOL.
Which is why the only social convention I follow here is the one that says "You are the man. And as such what you say goes. " For me that means, if I want to buy my girls, computers and cell phones, it's perfectly within my right to do so. If you choose not to, well then that's how you roll in your world. Man law says I shouldn't give a fuck about how you roll, and you shouldn't give a fuck about how I roll. What I will not do is let an entire family into my pocket simply because I stick my dick in to a pussy that happens to be a member of said family.
I know my regulars. I've been to their homes. I've met their families. And I give my regulars allowances, very generous allowances. And I tell them don't ask me for more. That will get you cut off quick. I don't care if your Mother, Brother, Sister, Cousin (you get the idea) is sick, or is in need of money. If you want to help them, then you break something off of your allowance and give it to them. The first time they ask for more to help a relative out I tell them this. And I add that I don't ever want to hear a money request like that again. If I do we are done.
Now I came to this hard line position after moving along the learning curve for a bit. AFC asks me for 9000 pesos. She wants to help her Aunt buy a washing machine. I asked did your Aunt put you up to this. She told me yes. And I went off. Fuck your Aunt and fuck you. Your family is not going to be in my pockets and on and on and on. After a lot of whining, complaining and temper tantrums on her part. I'm like this has got to stop. She was living with her Aunt and getting a lot of pressure to come through with the goods from her rich American boyfriend. We finally reached an agreement that she would accept her allowance being reduced by 1000 pesos for nine months in return for the 9000 pesos now. I agreed but was still pissed. So I made her Aunt wait two months for the money. Turns out that it was a bad deal on my part. AFC made it up by little requests here and there. I changed our arrangement to 500 pesos a week. And made her fully account for every peso from that point on. She didn't like it but got the message.
Fast forward to today. This week her cousins baby was in the hospital. I get this 911 text in whatapp. "I'm in dire need of money to pay for treatment that my cousins baby needs", she says. "Will you loan me the money and I'll pay it back? She asks. No! I tell her, "I'm holding 9000 pesos for you. (I do that for her because she has a spending problem). If you need some money come get it". Well, that killed the urgency. She never came and got the money. And when she saw me she never mentioned it again. Oh, her cousin's baby was indeed sick. I saw the pictures and was the personal taxi for her Cousin and her cousin's baby ride back home from the hospital. But it's amazing what happens and how priorities change when it's coming out of their pocket and not yours.
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;1843267]Mr. Revere,
I've only been to Bar / Restaurant Barricia. I like to sit upstairs in the part that overlooks Venezuela Avenue and watch the movement on the street. I concur. When I'm up there I do see some of the baddest of the bad girls enjoying the nightlife.
Barricia is a nice place. I like it. The food is good. The prices are reasonable. You can sit outside and get away from the loud music. Or go inside and dance. The drinks are weak. But they are sweet and the girls love them. I've only taken a date there and then catch hell for looking around. SMH.
LOL.[/QUOTE]Always a tough call to take a regular to place where you know hot girls will be looking at you and you have to pretend not to look back at them. This is when I make the waiter my friend to get digits, although one chick caught me and I denied it and said the waiter gave it to me I did not ask for it. Never admit wrong. Just deny it.
[QUOTE=Revere;1843593]Always a tough call to take a regular to place where you know hot girls will be looking at you and you have to pretend not to look back at them. This is when I make the waiter my friend to get digits, although one chick caught me and I denied it and said the waiter gave it to me I did not ask for it. Never admit wrong. Just deny it.[/QUOTE]Mr. Revere,
Excellent advice. I'll have to try your method next time. I don't mind checking a place out with a regular. Usually I go because they recommend it. And it never hurts to be seen in a venue with a pretty girl. It's not like the other girls care. It just makes you a challenge.
These dominican dudes tried to hustle me at the car wash. Inviting me to play pool. Losing and then offering to play for money. Initially, I told them I only speak English. Imagine their surprise when I told them in perfect Spanish that although I had only been in their country for a short time, I am a man of the world. I am not a idiot. I am here to wash my guagua (truck) and play a friendly game of pool. Took the wind right out of their sails. LOL The car wash is great day for those who have day game. Never been in one where the women were not smoking hot. When I was there I saw six women. None of them were less than a seven (7).
After I finished at the car wash I went out to get myself something to eat and I saw a building a friend wanted me to check out for him. I was driving. I needed to turn. So I couldn't get him any pictures. It's was located in a very good area within walking distance of everything.
After, picking up my food. I came home. I split off some of my lunch. And gave it to the security guy that takes care of the front gate during the day. That's the only way I know how to operate. Take care of people so they take care of you.
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;1844761]These dominican dudes tried to hustle me at the car wash. Inviting me to play pool. Losing and then offering to play for money. Initially, I told them I only speak English. Imagine their surprise when I told them in perfect Spanish that although I had only been in their country for a short time, I am a man of the world. I am not a idiot. I am here to wash my guagua (truck) and play a friendly game of pool. Took the wind right out of their sails. LOL The car wash is great day for those who have day game. Never been in one where the women were not smoking hot. When I was there I saw six women. None of them were less than a seven (7).
After I finished at the car wash I went out to get myself something to eat and I saw a building a friend wanted me to check out for him. I was driving. I needed to turn. So I couldn't get him any pictures. It's was located in a very good area within walking distance of everything.
After, picking up my food. I came home. I split off some of my lunch. And gave it to the security guy that takes care of the front gate during the day. That's the only way I know how to operate. Take care of people so they take care of you.[/QUOTE]Even without face shots both of those chicas will work for me.
No my brothers, Santo Domingo is NOT Sosua. Getting pussy here is hard. It's not easy. We don't import, hunt or fish. No pimp sticks needed or back up plans. In Santo Domingo, we straight get up everyday and goto work. We talk to women. Build networks. Learn the city. Learn the hangouts. We are out and about. Yes, we operate on a daily basis. Like surgeons. We are the pussy whisperers. It takes time and it takes skills and it takes knowledge. La chicas untando unas piernas similar a mantequilla en el pan tostado. (And the girls be speadin dem legs like butter on toast). Santo Domingo is strictly or veterans not for freshmen. Cause if you ain't got the skills just say "hell no" because you not getting laid rain, sleet, hail, snow.
Today one of my boys has some time to kill in the morning. He gave me a holla. "I want one of your 1500 peso girls". I'm like bet. Give me a moment. Reached out on whatsapp. Who's available? Sent the picture. My boy said: "That one will work. " Sent the digits. He went to work. Couple of hours later I receive notification from my boy that all went well. Sugar Daddy techniques or no. It's all about the network in Santo Domingo. My girls take care of me. Because I take care of my girls.
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;1846361] La chicas untando unas piernas similar a mantequilla en el pan tostado. (And the girls be speadin dem legs like butter on toast)[/QUOTE]Thank god, you are adding the English. Otherwise, I would have a hard time understanding "untando unas piernas" - smearing / greasing some legs?
[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;1846774]Thank god, you are adding the English. Otherwise, I would have a hard time understanding "untando unas piernas" - smearing / greasing some legs?[/QUOTE]Professor Tempoecorto,
Thank you for your non-spanish lesson. And for your literal translation of my phase.
The verb Untar means: 1. To spread. 2. to smear. 3. to grease. Untando (spreading, smearing, greasing) is the gerund (if you don't know what that means look it up).
The verb Separar means: 1. To separate. 2. to split. Separando (separating, splitting) is also the gerund. Taking notes Tempoecorto?
So we have two words in Spanish that mean spread. Similar to: "She spread the butter on the toast. " or "She spread her legs like butter on toast" in English. Separando sus piernas (separating / spreading their legs) would be the proper use of Spanish. Please make a note of it. How's my Spanish now?
I'm here to kick knowledge in people's ear. Not make fun of them. LOL. It's a funny thing: I'm able to communicate here in the Dominican Republic and in United States (with Spanish speakers) just fine. And my girls understand me. Yes, sometimes they have to translate my Spanish to others not used to hearing my American accent. But, if I speak a phase incorrectly they CORRECT me. My biggest problem is how fast people speak down here. It's really difficult for me to understand when people speak rapidly. I'm working hard on training my ear.
An individual who is sincerely interested in helping someone with their language skills corrects the individual. You and Professor Frannie are simply interested in parading your knowledge with a tone of superiority within your posts. You are both probably the type of people that make fun of individuals for whom English is not their first language, that make fun of their speaking patterns and accents. I know plenty of people like you and Professor Frannie. Although I wish I didn't.
What else do you do with your time when are not here in the DR paying girls to fuck you?
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;1846957]So we have two words in Spanish that mean spread. Similar to: "She spread the butter on the toast. " or "She spread her legs like butter on toast" in English. Separando sus piernas (separating / spreading their legs) would be the proper use of Spanish. Please make a note of it. How's my Spanish now?
I'm here to kick knowledge in people's ear. Not make fun of them. LOL. It's a funny thing: I'm able to communicate here in the Dominican Republic and in United States (with Spanish speakers) just fine. And my girls understand me. Yes, sometimes they have to translate my Spanish to others not used to hearing my American accent. But, if I speak a phase incorrectly they CORRECT me. My biggest problem is how fast people speak down here. It's really difficult for me to understand when people speak rapidly. I'm working hard on training my ear.
An individual who is sincerely interested in helping someone with their language skills corrects the individual.[/QUOTE]The problem is that it seems you are trying to translate a colloquialism which does not work out too well. No Spanish speaker would use "to spread" in that manner. They would use the verb abrir (to open) when referring to someone parting their legs. So when you try to speak in that manner it will confuse a lot of people.
As you get more familiar with languages you pick up on how some words are used and how others are not used. It is best to keep it simple if you wish to be understood.
It is not that people in DR speak rapidly. It is that many people in the DR are uneducated and speak Dominican or broken Spanish instead of standard Spanish. It is similar to looking at an interview with a Memphis rapper. You speak English and he is from the USA, yet you can not tell what the hell he is saying because his grammar and enunciation skills are so poor.
I remember a long time ago talking to a chick and she was saying "como tu ta. " I could not for the life of me understand what the hell she was saying. Come to find out she was cutting off her words as is common with uneducated people and she was actually saying "como tu estas. " You can tell an educated Dominican right off the bat because they speak clearly and use correct Spanish. You do not have to guess at what they are saying.
When I am writing or talking with a chick I demand they use standard Spanish instead of the BS they are known to use. If they can not do that then I personally have no business talking to them. I explain to them that Spanish is not my first language. When I learned Spanish, I learned standard Spanish. I was not taught hood Spanish or Dominican. I lose a lot of chicks right there because they simply are not able to communicate in actual Spanish, not that they do not want to they simply do not know how to.
I have told the story before of being in Sosua talking to a girl I knew when another girl approached. The girl who I was talking to had the nickname of Mosquito. The girl who came up was calling her Mokito. She asked for her phone number and the way she was saying it was exactly how she entered it into her phone.
I guarantee that if you were to step into Colombia or Costa Rica you would swear that your Spanish comprehension went from 20% to 80% overnight. It is because in those countries more people are educated and a greater percentage of the population speak standard Spanish instead of a non-standard dialect.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1846986]The problem is that it seems you are trying to translate a colloquialism which does not work out too well. No Spanish speaker would use "to spread" in that manner. They would use the verb abrir (to open) when referring to someone parting their legs. So when you try to speak in that manner it will confuse a lot of people.
As you get more familiar with languages you pick up on how some words are used and how others are not used. It is best to keep it simple if you wish to be understood.
It is not that people in DR speak rapidly. It is that many people in the DR are uneducated and speak Dominican or broken Spanish instead of standard Spanish. It is similar to looking at an interview with a Memphis rapper. You speak English and he is from the USA, yet you can not tell what the hell he is saying because his grammar and enunciation skills are so poor.
I remember a long time ago talking to a chick and she was saying "como tu ta. " I could not for the life of me understand what the hell she was saying. Come to find out she was cutting off her words as is common with uneducated people and she was actually saying "como tu estas. " You can tell an educated Dominican right off the bat because they speak clearly and use correct Spanish. You do not have to guess at what they are saying.
When I am writing or talking with a chick I demand they use standard Spanish instead of the BS they are known to use. If they can not do that then I personally have no business talking to them. I explain to them that Spanish is not my first language. When I learned Spanish, I learned standard Spanish. I was not taught hood Spanish or Dominican. I lose a lot of chicks right there because they simply are not able to communicate in actual Spanish, not that they do not want to they simply do not know how to.
I have told the story before of being in Sosua talking to a girl I knew when another girl approached. The girl who I was talking to had the nickname of Mosquito. The girl who came up was calling her Mokito. She asked for her phone number and the way she was saying it was exactly how she entered it into her phone.
I guarantee that if you were to step into Colombia or Costa Rica you would swear that your Spanish comprehension went from 20% to 80% overnight. It is because in those countries more people are educated and a greater percentage of the population speak standard Spanish instead of a non-standard dialect.[/QUOTE]That's what I'm talking about Mr. E. You are kicking real knowledge. And you are correct on all accounts. That explains why after I leave my Spanish class at APEC and head out into the street, I have a hell of a time understanding things. You are right. I have to learn how words are used exactly. It takes time. My point was that Professor Tamponcorto didn't offer up any useful information when it came to improving my Spanish.
I'm lucky to have very educated girls around me. They know how to speak and write proper Spanish and how to speak on the street. In fact, I can hear the difference when they are talking to me and other people. They change into that "Dominican or broken Spanish instead of standard Spanish. " That's what they do here. Even my REAL Spanish professor said she does that when she's on the street or at home. And yes, I'm always trying to translate my American colloquialisms (that was on my SAT test if I remember correctly). My girls love it. They say that's one of your English expressions. Because I have noticed, many Dominicans are in love with all things American (especially New York city). And although we have to work through the language with an explanation sometimes, the way I communicate makes me, me. LOL!
You can get caught up in the proper way to say things or you can just say it and let them correct you. I'm all about communication. That's what's most important to me. It's taken me a while but I'm functioning quite successfully in most situations except for complicated medical and legal ones. But I'm not above taking direction and seeking to improve. I had to take time off from my formal studies of school to take care of other issues. I'm going to return in the fall.
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;1847010]That's what I'm talking about Mr. E. You are kicking real knowledge. And you are correct on all accounts. That explains why after I leave my Spanish class at APEC and head out into the street, I have a hell of a time understanding things. You are right. I have to learn how words are used exactly. It takes time. My point was that Professor Tamponcorto didn't offer up any useful information when it came to improving my Spanish.
I'm lucky to have very educated girls around me. They know how to speak and write proper Spanish and how to speak on the street. In fact, I can hear the difference when they are talking to me and other people. They change into that "Dominican or broken Spanish instead of standard Spanish. " That's what they do here. Even my REAL Spanish professor said she does that when she's on the street or at home. And yes, I'm always trying to translate my American colloquialisms (that was on my SAT test if I remember correctly). My girls love it. They say that's one of your English expressions. Because I have noticed, many Dominicans are in love with all things American (especially New York city). And although we have to work through the language with an explanation sometimes, the way I communicate makes me, me. LOL!
You can get caught up in the proper way to say things or you can just say it and let them correct you. I'm all about communication. That's what's most important to me. It's taken me a while but I'm functioning quite successfully in most situations except for complicated medical and legal ones. But I'm not above taking direction and seeking to improve. I had to take time off from my formal studies of school to take care of other issues. I'm going to return in the fall.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]My point was that Professor Tamponcorto didn't offer up any useful information when it came to improving my Spanish. [/QUOTE]I told you how to tell if a noun ending in 'o' is masculine or feminine, so that should help your Spanish a lot. Also how to use 'adentro'.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1846986]The problem is that it seems you are trying to translate a colloquialism which does not work out too well. No Spanish speaker would use "to spread" in that manner. They would use the verb abrir (to open) when referring to someone parting their legs. So when you try to speak in that manner it will confuse a lot of people.
As you get more familiar with languages you pick up on how some words are used and how others are not used. It is best to keep it simple if you wish to be understood.
It is not that people in DR speak rapidly. It is that many people in the DR are uneducated and speak Dominican or broken Spanish instead of standard Spanish. It is similar to looking at an interview with a Memphis rapper. You speak English and he is from the USA, yet you can not tell what the hell he is saying because his grammar and enunciation skills are so poor.
I remember a long time ago talking to a chick and she was saying "como tu ta. " I could not for the life of me understand what the hell she was saying. Come to find out she was cutting off her words as is common with uneducated people and she was actually saying "como tu estas. " You can tell an educated Dominican right off the bat because they speak clearly and use correct Spanish. You do not have to guess at what they are saying.
When I am writing or talking with a chick I demand they use standard Spanish instead of the BS they are known to use. If they can not do that then I personally have no business talking to them. I explain to them that Spanish is not my first language. When I learned Spanish, I learned standard Spanish. I was not taught hood Spanish or Dominican. I lose a lot of chicks right there because they simply are not able to communicate in actual Spanish, not that they do not want to they simply do not know how to.
I have told the story before of being in Sosua talking to a girl I knew when another girl approached. The girl who I was talking to had the nickname of Mosquito. The girl who came up was calling her Mokito. She asked for her phone number and the way she was saying it was exactly how she entered it into her phone.
I guarantee that if you were to step into Colombia or Costa Rica you would swear that your Spanish comprehension went from 20% to 80% overnight. It is because in those countries more people are educated and a greater percentage of the population speak standard Spanish instead of a non-standard dialect.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE] I remember a long time ago talking to a chick and she was saying "como tu ta.[/QUOTE]It is common in Dominican dialect and some other dialects of Spanish, to drop the 's' sound except at the beginning of a word or before a vowel, like Sosua. As a linguist you should know this. Get used to it.
[QUOTE=Frannie;1847080]It is common in Dominican dialect and some other dialects of Spanish, to drop the 's' sound except at the beginning of a word or before a vowel, like Sosua. As a linguist you should know this. Get used to it.[/QUOTE]And which other dialects of Spanish would this also be common in? So how do you account for the "es" that is dropped at the beginning of "estas"? As I said it is an informal dialect aka improper Spanish. That is not taught at schools. You will not see that written in a book nor on the evening news. It is a part of being uneducated.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1847085]And which other dialects of Spanish would this also be common in? So how do you account for the "es" that is dropped at the beginning of "estas"? As I said it is an informal dialect aka improper Spanish. That is not taught at schools. You will not see that written in a book nor on the evening news. It is a part of being uneducated.[/QUOTE]Cuba, Puerto Rico, Venezuela, Andalusia, the Canary Islands.
And like I said, there are grammatical rules for the aspirated 's', which you as a linguist should know. In "como estas" both esses are aspirated or deleted, but in "Sosua" neither of them are. I already explained this rule to you. Every chica knows this linguistic rule, but you do not.
[URL]http://web.haskins.yale.edu/sr/SR119/SR119_15.pdf[/URL]
Calling it a sign of lack of education or ignorance is just like calling African American speech ignorant because it does not conform to Standard American speech as used on CNN or CBS. Half the mongers on this board refer to "Sousa" instead of Sosua, so most of the chicas have one up on them.
In any dialect of English, you will, of course, find that the people who speak the broadest form of the dialect tend to be less educated than those whose speech conforms more closely to the written language, but so what?
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1847085] So how do you account for the "es" that is dropped at the beginning of "estas"? As I said it is an informal dialect aka improper Spanish. That is not taught at schools. You will not see that written in a book nor on the evening news. It is a part of being uneducated.[/QUOTE]In linguistics, elision or deletion is the omission of one or more sounds (such as a vowel, a consonant, or a whole syllable) in a word or phrase. Sometimes sounds are elided to make a word easier to pronounce. The word elision is frequently used in linguistic description of living languages, and deletion is often used in historical linguistics for a historical sound change.
In French, elision is mandatory in certain contexts, as in the clause c'est la vie (elided from *Ce est la vie).
In Spanish, elision occurs less frequently but is common in certain dialects. It is never marked by an apostrophe in writing. Of particular interest is the word para, which becomes pa. Multiple words can be elided together, as in pa trabajar for para trabajar and pa delante or even pa lante for para adelante.
From Wikipedia.
In the example you give of "como ta" for "como estas", the e vowel is elided as the tongue moves forward from the position in the o sound to its position behind the upper front teeth for the t sound. If you say "como eta" quickly, the e sound is hardly heard at all, so it is convenient to slide over it, Professor E.
[QUOTE]My point was that Professor Tamponcorto didn't offer up any useful information when it came to improving my Spanish.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Frannie;1847076]I told you how to tell if a noun ending in 'o' is masculine or feminine, so that should help your Spanish a lot. Also how to use 'adentro'.[/QUOTE]You referenced my post but I didn't mention you at all. Furthermore you didn't add any new information. So what was the purpose of your post? Were you just trying to make yourself feel good again Professor Frannie? Were you feeling left out of the praise?
I'll help you out with a little feel good praise and some constructive criticism. I appreciate your Spanish instruction also Professor Frannie. But your presentation sucks so your lesson often gets lost in your within the depths of your pedantic style of writing.
Continuing to LMFAO at you!
You can get a HIV blood test from any reputable lab in the Dominican Republic for 200 to 400 pesos and get the results the next day. In fact you can get an entire STD screening from 1800 - 2500 pesos depending upon the lab. But that will take three days because that's how long the culture for Chlamydia takes to grow and provide a result. Best part about it. Once you see a doctor and receive the lab order you can pick up the results, read them, and decide for yourself if you need to return for treatment.
Oh, I forgot to mention you will get your results in Spanish. If you are like me and you don't really have a good command of the language, you might want to seek out assistance from one of the many Spanish Professors available here on the board. LOL.
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;1846957]An individual who is sincerely interested in helping someone with their language skills corrects the individual. You and Professor Frannie are simply interested in parading your knowledge with a tone of superiority within your posts. You are both probably the type of people that make fun of individuals for whom English is not their first language.[/QUOTE]Unfortunately I am not here to help improve anyone else, financially, spiritually, morally let alone linguistically. I only commented because, if there are others who would like to learn Spanish, reading your posts, they would be get wrong cues. The reason has been ably explained by Mr. E.
As far as superiority, it would be hard for me to comment but I sure find it amusing to read people whose first language IS English. Granted, this is not the forum that discusses The Economist articles.
[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;1847880]Unfortunately I am not here to help improve anyone else, financially, spiritually, morally let alone linguistically. I only commented because, if there are others who would like to learn Spanish, reading your posts, they would be get wrong cues. The reason has been ably explained by Mr. E.
As far as superiority, it would be hard for me to comment but I sure find it amusing to read people whose first language IS English. Granted, this is not the forum that discusses The Economist articles.[/QUOTE]For those of you who do not know, English is not Tempoecorto's first language.
[QUOTE]An individual who is sincerely interested in helping someone with their language skills corrects the individual. You and Professor Frannie are simply interested in parading your knowledge with a tone of superiority within your posts. You are both probably the type of people that make fun of individuals for whom English is not their first language. [/QUOTE]I post here mainly for the benefit of people reading who want accurate information about traveling to the Dominican Republic, meeting women there, learning to speak Spanish, and so on. If you are posting something on a discussion board that can be read by anyone anywhere in the world, then whatever you post becomes of general interest.
You posted what you though was a Spanish phrase that contained some errors. By doing this you showed that many beginners in Spanish have a hard time knowing whether a noun ending in 'o' takes the masculine or feminine form for article and adjectival agreement. I wrote down a simple explanation of which nouns ending in 'o' are feminine (very few indeed, and 'la mano' is the only one your really need to know.). You did not know that. Now you do. But more importantly, anyone reading this will have the same information and they will not go to the DR believing that 'la toto' is the Spanish for 'pussy'.
As far as me writing in a 'pedantic' fashion, I am writing for people all over the world, some of whom may not speak English as a first language (like Tempoecorto!) It just makes sense to try to write as clearly and unambiguously as possible. If I were to try to write in my native dialect, it would be hard for most people to understand, and anyway there would be no need for it. But here is a sample:
Along wi three friends fra t'dialect class.
Ah wor gi'en a lift t'other Monda'.
But t'step wor too 'igh, an' Ah really did try.
Ah thowt Ah weant ger in 'ere till nex' Sunda'.
Mi skirt wor too tight, an' try as Ah might.
Ah just cudn't get mi leg ovver.
Bert wor reight gud, an' 'e gev mi a shove.
But Ah caused 'I'm a fair bit o' bother.
The above contains a number of linguistic features that will be of interest to some readers like Professor E.
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;1844761]These dominican dudes tried to hustle me at the car wash.
( . . . )
[/QUOTE]That reminds me of that '70's movie Carwash ([URL]http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0074281/?ref_=nv_sr_1[/URL]).
[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;1847880]Unfortunately I am not here to help improve anyone else, financially, spiritually, morally let alone linguistically.[/QUOTE]Yes, that was what I thought. It was the point of my earlier post. But it was good to hear it directly from you. Thank you Professor Tamponecorto.
[QUOTE=Frannie;1848223]But more importantly, anyone reading this will have the same information and they will not go to the DR believing that 'la toto' is the Spanish for 'pussy'.[/QUOTE]Professor Frannie,
Toto is indeed a masculine noun meaning "female genitalia". It is considered vulgar language. And you would not use the world in polite company. So you would indeed interpret the word to mean "pussy". Now I when I wrote "la toto", I was trying to say "the pussy". So I should have wrote, "el pussy". But if I had of wrote "toto" for "pussy", it would have been correct.
Like I said before I'm here to kick knowledge. If my knowledge is incorrect, correct me. Don't just keep repeating yourself trying to make your point and to make yourself feel good.
Continuing to LMFAO at you!
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;1848718]Professor Frannie,
Now I when I wrote "la toto", I was trying to say "the pussy". So I should have wrote, "el pussy".
If my knowledge is incorrect, correct me.
[/QUOTE]Nope, you should have written 'del pussy' because you were trying to say 'inside the pussy' (dentro del toto).
Good luck with your studies. You will soon know how to ask for some pussy in Spanish. Alternatively you could just ask "¿ficky ficky conmigo?
[QUOTE=Frannie;1848917]Nope, you should have written 'del pussy' because you were trying to say 'inside the pussy' (dentro del toto).[/QUOTE]Thank you for the correction Professor Frannie.
[QUOTE=Frannie;1848917]Good luck with your studies.[/QUOTE]Thank you Professor Frannie.
[QUOTE=Frannie;1848917]Alternatively you could just ask "ficky ficky conmigo?[/QUOTE]That's Spanlish. And I'm surprised you would advocate such a poor use of language. I'll leave that for those without true ability to communicate with girls or game such as yourself.
[QUOTE=Frannie;1848917]You will soon know how to ask for some pussy in Spanish.[/QUOTE]I don't have to ask for pussy in Spanish or any other langusge. I know how to get into pussy without asking. Do you Professor Frannie?
[QUOTE=Frannie;1848917] Alternatively you could just ask "ficky ficky conmigo?[/QUOTE]Wonder how "ficky ficky" got so popular from Thailand to the DR. Idiots could not pronounce "fucky" or it came from German "Ficken"? Idle curiosity.
[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;1848941]Wonder how "ficky ficky" got so popular from Thailand to the DR. Idiots could not pronounce "fucky" or it came from German "Ficken"? Idle curiosity.[/QUOTE]"In Hamburg, witnesses described groups of young men who followed women calling out "*****! Ficky ficky!" " (quote from recent newspaper report).
Now, in Sosua what you find are groups of young women following men calling out "Mi amor! Ficky ficky!
It just seems like we have a kind of mismatch situation going on.
[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;1848941]Wonder how "ficky ficky" got so popular from Thailand to the DR. Idiots could not pronounce "fucky" or it came from German "Ficken"? Idle curiosity.[/QUOTE]I have never heard anyone here in Thailand say ficky ficky. They all say boom boom. Maybe you are thinking about Vietnam. Although I did not hear it in Vietnam either, I think the lady in the Full Metal Jacket movie said fucky fucky or sucky sucky. But your idea is the same as the word bambino that we discused before.
Frannie I guess the hunter has become the hunted in Sosua.
Professor Frannie,
You are always on my case about my written Spanish. But I seem to be able communicate with Spanish speakers (other than you of course) just fine. People are not telling me "Que" o "No entiendo". And I don't have any problems with my girls understanding me. How do you explain that?
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;1849597]Professor Frannie,
You are always on my case about my written Spanish. But I seem to be able communicate with Spanish speakers (other than you of course) just fine. People are not telling me "Que" o "No entiendo". And I don't have any problems with my girls understanding me. How do you explain that?[/QUOTE]My spanish sucks from a technical aspect but I also have no problems communicating with the locals and to me that's all that matters. I'm too busy having a good time to worry about whether I conjugated a verb correctly or not.
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;1849597]Professor Frannie,
You are always on my case about my written Spanish. But I seem to be able communicate with Spanish speakers (other than you of course) just fine. People are not telling me "Que" o "No entiendo". And I don't have any problems with my girls understanding me. How do you explain that?[/QUOTE]1. Money talks.
2. Usually if Spanish speakers do not understand something they say "como?" for the English "what? So it is no surprise that you are not hearing people say "que?" if they do not understand you!
[QUOTE=Manizales911;1849603]My spanish sucks from a technical aspect but I also have no problems communicating with the locals and to me that's all that matters. I'm too busy having a good time to worry about whether I conjugated a verb correctly or not.[/QUOTE]To let you into a secret, so does mine. Getting things right when you are having a full speed conversation can be much harder than doing it on paper since you cannot look up vocabulary that you are uncertain of, so you have to think ahead to figure out how to get round the word that you don't know. On the other hand the locals appreciate it if you make an effort. If you learn as an adult, your spoken Spanish can never be flawless, anyway.
[QUOTE=Frannie;1849656]Usually if Spanish speakers do not understand something they say "como?" for the English "what? So it is no surprise that you are not hearing people say "que?" if they do not understand you![/QUOTE]Professor Frannie,
That has not been my experience. When I first hit the island and I was trying to speak Spanish I heard "que?" quite a bit. I rarely heard "como?" I also found that the Spanish I was learning in the classroom was very different from the Spanish that was being spoken to me in the street. But, when I was in a formal business setting I heard more formal Spanish. At this point I seem to be able to communicate just fine. And I'm in many situations where money is NOT the issue.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1849442]I have never heard anyone here in Thailand say ficky ficky. They all say boom boom..[/QUOTE]Can't remember my Vietnam days well but you are right about boom boom, LOL. Perhaps I heard ficky ficky in Jakarta?
"The European Chamber of Commerce in the Dominican Republic has announced it will be hosting the Dominican Republic Forum to promote the country as a tourist destination. Special guest speakers will be Minister of Tourism Francisco Javier Garcia and ambassador Alberto Navarro, head of the European Union delegation in the Dominican Republic. The event is scheduled to take place at the JW Marriott on 6 April 2016. The theme will be discussing the potential of the Dominican Republic for becoming the hub of the Caribbean, and center of multi-destination tourism.
The conference is taking place at a time when leading US airlines have announced they will begin flying to Cuba.
Upon making the announcement, chamber president Hans Witsenboer advocated for less taxes to attract more tourists. He said that air arrivals pay charges of US $93.50 per air arrival. He proposes to reduce this to US $33.50 to encourage more visits.
Witsenboer said that to encourage cruise ship visits, the government considerably reduced the taxes charged for sea arrivals. A total of 300,000 are already expected this year, with prospects to increase to 600,000 in 2017 and one million by 2018. " - from another popular website about the DR.
If the government of the Dominican Republic takes the same step to it did to increase cruise ship visits that should lower ticket prices. That is if airlines pass on their tax savings to their customers.
Uber gives a fare estimate of 1300 pesos from SDQ to greater Santo Domingo.
Go up to 2nd floor there is a van that takes locals in town. I have taken it 3 times with no problem 100 pesos. It requires persistent looking but is well worth it.
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;1853578]Uber gives a fare estimate of 1300 pesos from SDQ to greater Santo Domingo.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=OldKool;1854152]Go up to 2nd floor there is a van that takes locals in town. I have taken it 3 times with no problem 100 pesos. It requires persistent looking but is well worth it.[/QUOTE]I'm going to have to give that a try the next my next trip. Thanks!
Of course I do!
One of the esteemed members of this forum has suggested that I don't really know much about the Dominican Republic because I have not traveled the country in constant search of new pussy. To this charge I plead: No contest.
I have not found the need to travel the island in search of pussy. All the good pussy I know has legs. And I have found most of it to be very eager to deliver itself to my doorstep right here in Santo Domingo. But when you roll like I do (luxury apartment with a ocean view and a pool), it's not that hard to establish relationships with personal pussy suppliers willing to service you in ways best left to your imagination. But being a "hombre completo" (complete man) I am always open to suggestions. And have I decided to venture forth to explore the island. My adventures will be detailed here.
Live long! And may the pussy be with you!
So I bought this chica a Pink fishnet catsuit (That's right I did it. I'm better than Santa Claus. I'm a philanthropist. I give all year!) and she is parading around here in it. Then cuddling up next to me on my chase to watch the game. This is the stuff Penthouse fantasies are made of. LOL.
I fingered her to an orgasm during half time. And late in the game when her team was starting to get blown out she proceeded to give me some of the most lovinging head. Teasing and moving slowly and lightly. It drove me crazy. Felt so good I almost passed out when I finally blasted a big load of cum in her mouth. She kept sucking until she drained every drop. Then discreetly made her way to the bathroom to spit.
Man after that I'm here to announce to the esteemed member that I'll be canceling all future trips. I have no interested in taking up gardening at this point in my life. I'll leave it to the esteemed members of the forum to hoe the fields and work with the garden tools. LOL.
Live long and may the pussy be with you!
[QUOTE=Frannie;1849424]"In Hamburg, witnesses described groups of young men who followed women calling out "*****! Ficky ficky!" " (quote from recent newspaper report).
Now, in Sosua what you find are groups of young women following men calling out "Mi amor! Ficky ficky!
It just seems like we have a kind of mismatch situation going on.[/QUOTE]Late to the conversation, sorry, but, yes, I'd say the volume of German sex tourists in Thailand accounts for the use of the word "ficky. ".
As you said, the German verb for F is "ficken" which I can easily see gets shortened to "ficky. ".
Regular women are motivated by more than just money. They are often interested in different experiences. Many members of the esteemed membership fail to understand this. Probably because all they have to offer is money. But there are an elite few that know how roll like I roll!
Had the "Pan Frances" working today. The chicas drop their panties for my American cooking. I post pictures of my meals on my Whatsapp. I tell them you only get breakfast if you spend the night with me. I currently have a waiting list. LOL.
Live long and may the pussy be with you!
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;1849747]Professor Frannie,
That has not been my experience. When I first hit the island and I was trying to speak Spanish I heard "que?" quite a bit. I rarely heard "como?" I also found that the Spanish I was learning in the classroom was very different from the Spanish that was being spoken to me in the street. But, when I was in a formal business setting I heard more formal Spanish. At this point I seem to be able to communicate just fine. And I'm in many situations where money is NOT the issue.[/QUOTE]Trivia point.
There are often very different regional uses of Spanish.
In some places, people say "Que?" some, "Como?" (in Mexico, they often say, "Mande?" -Mexican has its oddities).
For example, "Gua gua" is Caribbean; in most of Latin America, its "Autobus".
[QUOTE=Yanqui69;1859280]For example, "Gua gua" is Caribbean; in most of Latin America, its "Autobus".[/QUOTE]In Colombia one of those little buses is called a buseta. But in Brazil a buceta is a pussy.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1859330]In Colombia one of those little buses is called a buseta. But in Brazil a buceta is a pussy.[/QUOTE
]Yes. And in Colombia, a van is a "camioneta" (camion = truck) and a small plane is an "avioneta. ".
Differences in local terms can cause confusion.
In many places "tirar" is to shoot, or throw. In Colombian slang, it also means to F*.
I read somewhere about a gringo talking about wanting to throw someone into the street, "tirar" somebody en la calle".
And the amused group wondered why he wanted to F* the guy in the street.
Mr. Oakie,
I saw that you indirectly referenced my post in the Sosua section. So I do not clog up the valuable flow of information being shared about Sosua. I've decided to answer your post here. Point by point.
[QUOTE=Oakie;1862901]Every so often we have guys here getting into pissing contests.
That's OK, but when they start talking about "keeping it real", I start to laugh, and feel the need to chime in.[/QUOTE]No, my man. Saying anything other than "Sousa is great" disturbs the throngs of pussy faithful who make their annual pilgramage (and more) to pay hommage to chicas.
[QUOTE=Oakie;1862901]First of all Sosua is a brothel. Got it?[/QUOTE]An entire town is a brothel? You are wrong about that. Almost 50,000 people live in Sousa. According to the information I have read in the Sosua forum there are about 200 - 300 sex workers available. If that is the case, what exactly are the other approximately 45,500 people doing? At best Sosua has a red light district. And don't think for a minute that if they can find a way to replace the income the sex tourists bring in that they won't shut it down.
[QUOTE=Oakie;1862901]You are a regular customers of hookers. A john, a trick.[/QUOTE]Here you are speaking about yourself. I am sure it is a very accurate description of what you do in Sosua. But, I have not read where you have been appointed spokesperson for the Association of Men who pay for sex.
[QUOTE=Oakie;1862901]You are not "lovers", not a "harem keepers".[/QUOTE]Once again I understand that's you. And quite possibly it is not possible to do in Sosua what I do Santo Domingo. Nor would you be interested in doing it.
[QUOTE=Oakie;1862901]You go to Sosua because you are needy.[/QUOTE]Are the men who travel to Sosua in such dire NEED (your word) that they travel to another country to pay women for sex? My thoughts are that if that is the case then maybe they should seeing a health care provider in their respective country of origin. I've always thought that paying women for sex was a lifestyle choice. I hope individuals are not allowing themselves to become such a repulsive human beings as to only have Sosua as a sexual outlet.
[QUOTE=Oakie;1862901]If all DR women are just beef, you are just a convenient ATM machine, and they play you like fiddles.[/QUOTE]Once again you are only speaking about the women that you pay for. The professional women working the streets and bars of Sosua. You think you can buy any woman in the DR? YOU CAN'T! Don't get it twisted my man. And check yo self in the mirror.
[QUOTE=Oakie;1862901]As for your 10's. If what gets posted here from time to time are 10's, you need to reshuffle the deck. Just post pictures, let the guys decide.[/QUOTE]When I am in Sosua fucking women for money and they want their photos posted for advertising purposes I'll do that. And no you won't find any 10's in Sosua. 10's don't need to go there.
[QUOTE=Oakie;1862901]And those other know it all guys who have all the "game" they need to get it for free, whatever, but you need to be posting somewhere else, or just stay home with all that "game".[/QUOTE]I haven't seen anyone posting about free sex in the Sosua section. Or talking about game. Exactly where is this coming from. My thoughts is that it must be a reading comprehension problem.
[QUOTE=Oakie;1862901]So lets really keep it real, and remember that that the cute McDonalds server who smiles at you is not likely to be in love with you. If you don't pull out your cash fast enough, she'll stop smiling and call the cops.This may upset some of the more egotistical among you, but I learned this a long time ago, and have more satisfactory reality based relationships, both long term and short. Sosua is great, but cash is king, not you :) And when you are bragging here about "cheap sex", don't forget to factor in that air fare and hotel bill, and maybe a week off work![/QUOTE]Oh so the man who laughs when someone says something about keeping real now wants to keep it real with us. They problem is that your reality is based solely upon your opinion. But my post was referencing a trip report written by someone else. According to your logic the experiences of another person are not real when they fail to support your beliefs.
That my man is not keeping it real it is Solipsism.
Mr. Sammon,
You said:
[QUOTE=Sammon;1862948]I do not know what the argument is about. We go to DR for sex. One way or another we pay for it.[/QUOTE]Is that any different from how you operate in your own country? So we have no argument there. If you review the posts carefully in the Sosua section it started when a member of this esteemed forum had the nerve to write a negative review of the Sosua section. It upset the true believers.
[QUOTE=Sammon;1862948]Once in a while we get lucky and meet a horny lady who does not want money. It is not a regular occurance but can happen. To say you go to DR with empty pocket hoping to score free is not going to work.[/QUOTE]Everybody on the board is paying for sex. Please show me the posts where people are saying they get free sex.
[QUOTE=Sammon;1862948]To say every girl you meet is faithful to you and keep her legs closed waiting for you is just a myth. More so in Spanish culture than Asian culture. Asians in their defense can wait for sex long time. But each girl will get into bed with anybody anytime without regard to loyalty to one if she so chooses.[/QUOTE]Who on this board said anything about monogamy? I hope you are not expecting monogamy from a woman you are paying for sex. Or for that matter from a woman you met while on vacation and fucked for free (no matter what her country of origin). And please tell me how this is any different in your country of origin?
You want to talk culture. How about the fact that here in the DR Sosua is not mentioned in mixed company? Did you know that? Prostitution is legal not socially approved. At least not in the social circles I run in. That's a big difference that the sexual tourists don't understand. No woman here is trying to advertise outside of their tight circle of friends that they sleep with men for money. Just because it's wide open in Sosua does not make it so in the rest of the country. And if you need proof of that simply RTFF. Compare Santo Domingo or Santiago to Sosua or Boca Chica.
The Defense rests.
Shout out goes to Grownman and Grownman Hair Enterprises. He made a brief stop on the way to the Sue to hook me up with some hair for my #1. He was like "Who is the lucky lady? I told him. He said 'she's going to love it'. He was right!
I gave it to her and she started jumping up and down in her bra and panties. And then she began dancing around my bedroom. I'm thinking: "Damn this is a lot more interesting than being in a strip club". LOL. After the impromptu dance show she tore into a packet and declared the quality to be good. And so it was.
Later that night we went to her place. She was showing her hair off to some other chicas and yes, as Grownman told me, the other chicas declared the quality to be good. And so it was. One of them wanted to put in an order. I hit Grownman up. Told him I needed to re-up.
But the chica wanted to make payments. I'm thinking: "Does the Subcmdr look like a bank or hair finance company to you". I might be Santa Claus. I might be a philanthropist. I might let the chicas rummage through my bank account. But this is business. I don't offer terms. I need cash baby. Pesos. I'm waiting to hear back.
There are many critics out there. But you are a man in the arena, so credit goes to you not to them. Thank you Grownman!
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;1871119]Shout out goes to Grownman and Grownman Hair Enterprises. He made a brief stop on the way to the Sue to hook me up with some hair for my #1. He was like "Who is the lucky lady? I told him. He said 'she's going to love it'. He was right!
I gave it to her and she started jumping up and down in her bra and panties. And then she began dancing around my bedroom. I'm thinking: "Damn this is a lot more interesting than being in a strip club". LOL. After the impromptu dance show she tore into a packet and declared the quality to be good. And so it was.
Later that night we went to her place. She was showing her hair off to some other chicas and yes, as Grownman told me, the other chicas declared the quality to be good. And so it was. One of them wanted to put in an order. I hit Grownman up. Told him I needed to re-up.
But the chica wanted to make payments. I'm thinking: "Does the Subcmdr look like a bank or hair finance company to you". I might be Santa Claus. I might be a philanthropist. I might let the chicas rummage through my bank account. But this is business. I don't offer terms. I need cash baby. Pesos. I'm waiting to hear back.
There are many critics out there. But you are a man in the arena, so credit goes to you not to them. Thank you Grownman![/QUOTE]Thanks for the shout-out I knew she would love it. It's funny 30 minutes prior to you calling my friends were asking about the guys who shared the Coors with them during the Superbowl. They told me to tell you thank you again for the switch up. And then you called. I don't know if a chica wants to make payment plans you are in a great position. You are here all the time. I wish I can give some of these chicas payment plans. When they have their money I am not here. You are here all the time. I had to learn the long way women buying shit different. They put a claim on things before they have their money. The good thing is once they put their money down they are going to try hard to hurry and pay it off.
Once your girl starts hooking her friends up with hair she will become empowered. The girls love the attention they get from their friends. I sit at my number one distributor's casa watching an influx of new pussy buying hair pretending I'm not interested. They give me the look like I wish I can f*** you instead for this hair. A few have.
[QUOTE=Cerebro;1612839]I grew up in DR Santiago till I was 20 years old. That was like 25 years ago. Back then going to brothels or finding hookers was not the norm and was some type of aberration that many did, but discreetly. An uncle took me to a brothel in Santiago when I was 16, but he asked me then not to tell my mother or anyone. Although it seems from staying in Sosua or Boca Chica and seeing so many chicas and guys looking for them and because it also legal that getting the chicas is normal, it is still considered a lifestyle of the perverted. The perception of most foreigh people also changes from being on those chica populated places and I noticed that many think that all Dominican women are putas or chicas and this is not true at all. From the time I was living there till today, I can see that prostitution has grown greatly, but it is still not view in the Dominican society as a good thing...as no one wants it to be known that that they visit brothels frequently or go to Sosua or other places to get hookers. Or just try this experiment, try to assimilate the society, move to a nice middle class or upper class neighborhood, and tell people that you are a gringo that goes to DR to pay for chicas, bring the chicas in to the neighborhood, be opened about it, and see how people will react. You will be called soon "el gringo de las putas" and will soon be an outcast despised in the neighborhood. The chicas will still love you though and Sosua will still receive you with open arms.[/QUOTE]Mr. Cerebro is keeping it real. This is a classic post. So when I speak of the "Sexual Tourist" I mean it in a descriptive term. Nothing more. All those who don't know now you know.
[QUOTE=XXL;1876709]I'm still in two minds about whether to retire to Thailand or to some other country. The DR would be on my radar since I like black girls and speak the lingo. However the reports I'm reading here about problem girls and police hassle are sobering. How would you guys rate the DR compared to a wall-to-wall scam country such as the Philippines (or a relatively scam-free country such as Thailand)? Confrontation with greedy police is something I don't want to have to worry about on a weekly basis. In particular, if I become a resident in the DR and find myself a local semi-pro as a regular girl or even a cohabitant (whom I rewarded at the going rate) is there any chance of getting rid of her when I want to or would I face an insurmountable blackmail and drama worse than if I had married her? Thanks for any opinion.[/QUOTE]Mr. XXL,
I'm answering you in my thread to avoid the nonsense that populates the Sosua thread.
I can tell you about the DR, specifically my experiences in Santo Domingo. But I can't really compare them to Thailand or the Philippines.
Problem girls
Those are tourists talking. You know what you like and you speak the language. This is a not a problem for those who are street smart and know the deal. These women are the professionals. Unless you are on the street buying pussy everyday no one is a veteran compared to these girls. You need a straight poker face. Because if you have a tell they will read it and use it. Just got back from my first time to The Sue and BC. Had a great time. No problems. I had a good advisor and my skill set from the inner hustler that served me well. Planes take off and land everyday. You only read about failures. It's similar on ISG.
Police Hassle
If you are not drunk, fighting or driving you are unlikely to ever have an encounter with the police. If you do have an encounter with the police how you handle it depends on if you are doing something wrong, how much time you have, and how much you are willing to pay. It's up to you.
Companionship
I have wide range of girls available to me:
Girls with jobs, barely surviving, going to university.
Girls without jobs living in poverty going to university and trying to improve themselves.
Girls without jobs who claim to be living in poverty but show up in designer jeans, full make up, hair and nails perfect claiming the are going to university and trying to improve themselves(marketing). Their story is they need milk for their baby(guilt trip). I tell them: "Buy all the milk you like with the pesos I give you. My milk is for you. ".
Girls with boyfriends both here and via western union that are open with me and therefore I am open with them.
Semi-pros.
Pros.
I would never live with a girl here. I do business with a Dominican that is about the same age as I am. He has 4 children, all by different girls and has never lived with any of them. He tells me never to let a Dominican girl live with you. Invite them over, go to their house, take them to cabanas, but NEVER let them live with you.
Once you help a girl out financially. You can tell her no as much as you want. She's not going to stop dealing with you because of a temporary setback. You have helped her before she is going to stay with you because of the possibility you will help her again. I never have to "get rid of her". You either have a position on my team or you get cut. When you get cut I don't answer your texts or phone calls. They get the message. If I want to give them another chance I just reach out on whatsapp. If it's about the money 9 times out of 10 I get a response. The only ones that have refused to continue to deal with me are the ones that had real feelings for me or wanted the type of relationship that I was not interested in.
I have an income similar to yours available to me. I maintain both a US and a DR household. My girls think I only have half the money to live on that I do. I tell them I've paid for everything over there and that's how I can do it. I live like a fucking boss on $2000/ month. I support my harem (which currently consists of three girls) on less than the sexual tourists pay for their plane ticket.
My advice is to do long term rentals in all three countries before you decide where you want to set down.
This report has been written by a persona that might best be described as a verbose exercise in "narcissism" who never seems to miss an opportunity to promote the wonder and beauty that is him. You may receive mental discomfort through your eyeholes by reading this report. Reader discretion is advised.
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;1881319]This report has been written by a persona that might best be described as a verbose exercise in "narcissism" who never seems to miss an opportunity to promote the wonder and beauty that is him. You may receive mental discomfort through your eyeholes by reading this report. Reader discretion is advised.[/QUOTE]So, on the drive back from The Sue, Mr. GoGo teaches me how to handle an AMET speed trap. We are rolling south. Speed unknown because I'm riding shotgun. And we are on an approach vector. The uniformed AMAT officer is on the left side of the road waving his radar gun. He begins walking out into the road waving more franticly. We are closing the distance. He is standing in the middle of northbound lane at the dividing line, waving both arms like a crazed man, just as we blow past him. Mr. GoGo doesn't so much as tap the breaks, ease off the accelerator, or miss a beat when it comes to our conversation. Why he doesn't just change his Spanish name to Santiago is beyond me.
Mr. GoGo drops me off at my ocean view apartment and rolls to the airport to turn in his SUV. I head into my apartment. Dining room is flooded due to heavy rains while I was gone. Fuck it. I'll clean it up later. I got pussy to catch. Drop the big bag. Load up the small bag and head back out. I pull up to the airport in the gran jefe mobile just as Mr. GoGo is coming out. I love it when a plan comes together. Now we are rolling to Boca Chica and it is raining like a very hard. But it's not a problem because we are big dogs, off the porch, and running without a leash. Don't hate mother fuckers (you know who you are)!
So we arrive in Boca Chica at the Villa Capri Hotel to check in. Mr. GoGo has a reservation, but I'm just winging it, and I don't. They don't have a room for me. The only room they do have is the two bedroom suite with a balcony. Mr. GoGo graciously invites me to share his room so we split the first night. It's $35 each. Now that's a damn good deal. Drop the luggage and head off to the Strip for a bite to eat. We decide on Village by the Beach. It is still raining very hard and although the table is under cover rain is coming off the overhangs like it being poured from buckets.
It's very nice. Sits beach front with a rustic dark wood tropical feel. We are just relaxing and chilling after the long drive back. Mr. GoGo's phone is vibrating so much, because of all the chicas trying to get on his jock now that he's back in town, a waitress is threatening to sit on it. I'm sitting there at my table over looking the beach and something terrible happens to me. A horrible offence to my eyeholes just penetrated my brain and left me traumatized. On the beach is a fucking white jabba the hut with two chicas at his table at the restaurant next to us. I know this is the beach but there should be some kind of law against that. What's next him putting leashes on the two chicas.
Ok, back to reality. I'm looking at that and for the first time I'm feeling sorry for the chicas. I'm thinking DAMN, I may be old but at least I'm not a repulsive human being like that mother fucker over there. Those chicas are earning every peso of their money today. Smh. Back to the menu. It looks good. I order some chicken, vegetables and a salad. Food comes and we have a nice relaxing lunch interspersed with rain and sun. We get the check, pay and bounce.
As we head (oh shit, another bad pun) out we are besieged by the massage girls. Mr. GoGo explains that the type of uniform is the tell (fuck or no fuck). Neither one of us interested in service at this point so we move on. I want to buy some fruit. So we go for a casual walk down the BC strip. There are a few chicas on the stroll but nothing that really catches my eye. I find the local street fruit vendor and have him fix me up a plate. It's freshly cut exactly how I want it. 100 pesos. Bet. I grab my fruit plate and head across the street to the BC park where the guaguas arrive and leave. I have a seat on the park bench and take in the sights. Mr. Gogo posts up on the corner for the best view. He points out the Argentinians street vendors in the park, the working girls and the touts. After making a dent in my fruit place I tell Mr. GoGo let's walk. There are two working girls sitting at the colmado near the park but it's too early to make a choice yet. Mr. GoGo shows me more of the strip and on the way to the other end the massage girls run up on us again. Must be a slow day because about a half dozen of them just sitting around doing nothing. They are not trying to give a brother no conversation so get the fuck out of of here. Mr. GoGo show me more. We head to another one of his spots. It has an ocean view and is a great place to have a relaxing drink. I meet a BC fixture named Bob. We are like hey we have something in common. A little chit chat and small talk about where we are from and then back into the gran jefe mobile, to the hotel and it's chill out time.
So, we back at the Villa Capri. Mr. GoGo ain't in the room for 5 minutes til he off on a chica run. DAMN Brother, I'm afraid of you. I'm still in straight chill mode. I get a knock on the door. "My chica has a friend for you" I hear from the other side of the door. I'm like "what does she look like". Mr. GoGo has a picture. Chica looks good. Mr. GoGo ain't making me take one for the team and I appreciate that. Out onto the balcony to hang out with GoGo and his chica. GoGo got the music playing through his iPad. We chilling. Life is good. Critical mother fuckers, don't see any of why'all in sight. Why would I? We are men in the arena.
Other chica arrives. She looks fine. GoGo grabs beer for all of them water for me. I'm in straight lightweight mode cause I gots some dominican superbug up in me and it's kicking my ass. I still can't drink. Back to the chicas: Houston we have a problem. Chica got attitude and I get enough of that at home from my harem. Chica got to go. Quick side bar with GoGo to apprise him of the situation. Then I take the chica inside and explain (in my poor Spanish) that I appreciate the fact she came out to see me and that she looks good. But we just don't share any chemistry and I am sorry about that. She says that's life. I leave her on the couch and GoGo being the gentleman he is cleans up the mess. He decides to kick his chica loose for the night and bang her out tomorrow. NICE. That's what gran hefe's do. We running things. Change of clothes and we are once again mission ready and cleared for takeoff.
So we take a walk to the strip from the VC down the side street. We exit out the front gate and turn the corner and this chica on drugs hits GoGo up with a "cum anywhere you like" 1000 peso offer. I'm like "shit what the fuck has GoGo got me into". Gogo waves her off like a plane making a bad carrier approach. While we continue our walk GoGo informs me that's one of the things he doesn't like about BC. There is heavy drug use by chicas here. I'm thinking "oh really, I've never considered fucking a chica on a "E ticket" ride. Damn good idea my brother".
Two blocks down is a casa. Huge yellow complex thinly disguised as a "discotecha". We enter to take a look. We are invited in and GoGo is feeling the girls. But I am hungry and I'm getting a bad vibe (or is that just my stomach rumbling). We are offered a seat at a table and I'm like "hey GoGo let's come back later. I want to get something to eat". Something is not right. Don't know what it is but I'm not interested in sticking around to figure it out. Being a good flight leader GoGo listens to me and we peel out of there. We continue our walk down to the strip and come to the conclusion that we should take a moto to return in order to decrease our exposure to the "colorful element" that populates that part of BC.
Now we are walking along the strip and looking for something for me to eat because GoGo is not hungry. I'm not feeling any of the establishments so we wind back up at a table in the street in front of Village by the Beach. I decide on a hamburger and GoGo orders his drink of choice. While sitting at our table the working girls on the stroll are passing by. It appears to me that the Italians got BC on lock. Every smoking hot dark skin chica seems to have Italian attached to her. They must be dropping some serious money. Because those perfect hair, nails, dresses, skirts and heels that the chicas are sporting gettin paid for by somebody.
At a restaurant next to us this short stocky Italian guy has TWO smoking hot dark skinned chicas at his table. They finish their meal and he takes a walk with them with his hands behind his back while his girls trail him a step behind. Now I'm thinking "What a dumb mother fucker. He has NO idea what he has there. " Two fine ass chicas like that were with me I'the have them hanging all on me. Wouldn't be walking in the street as if I'm in a military procession". But hey to each there own my brothers. Dowhatchalike!
So the hamburger comes out and I ask for 1000 Island Dressing. The owner comes to my table and apologizes. He tells me that they don't use anything out of bottle. If it's on your plate they made it here. Since they don't get many requests for that they don't have any. But next time I visit their fine establishment, as soon as I sit down make my request. They will get started on it right away and have it ready with my meal. BOOYAO motherfuckers! Now that's what I call customer service. They just made a customer for life. He suggests mixing the ketchup and mayonnaise as temporary solution. That works for me.
During dinner GoGo is telling me to chill out with the electronics. I got two smart phones and my hotspot out. I'm in the process of upgrading the equipment of the mobile command post MPC (a gran hefe like me needs that kind of stuff) and I'm still working out the bugs. A chica happens by that I fancy but I'm not finished with dinner or ready to make a choice. I'm having technical difficulties with my MCP in the field. Not really being that bright all this new equipment is kicking my ass.
I'm not making a connection with her via whatsapp, so she thinks am full of it (and sometimes I am). The SubCmdr can't catch a break from NOBODY. I finally get my electronic act together but by then she has moved on frustrated. Oh well. Fuck ya later! No battle plan survives contact with the enemy. While continuing to take in the sights we saw this European blonde. She was an older lady (relatively speaking to my preferences but I would still fuck if asked), great body, walking along the strip strutting her stuff with two Dominican boy toys trailing her. Go on sister. Dowhatchalike!
Dinner is finished the bill is paid and it's time to hit the streets again. I'm in search and penetrate mode and my missile tipped with a moisture seeking work head is in seeking mode. It's tracking but no tone yet. After the last few days in The Sue, I'm a card carrying member of the STICK AND MOVE Crew. I don't see the point of seeking GFE from working girls. I'm looking for PSE. Straight fucking; no kissing.
Move as team, never move alone, so welcome to the pussy zone!
Mr. GoGo and I head down the street walkin, talkin and taking in the sights. We get to another establishment where GoGo has VIP status. The waitresses are in a near riot of who gets his table. I'm hoping a fight breaks out and some serious hair pulling starts going down. I never try to miss out on a good marketing opportunity. One of the waitresses with a past history with Mr. GoGo (I'll let him provide the details if he wants) wins the battle. While observing the tussle I find one the waitresses attractive. So, I roll up on her. We chat and a let her know I want her phone number and I'll wait for her until after her shift. Then I walk off. All rise! The honorable SubCmdr is holding court. Please be seated.
We are at the table and the waitress gives me attitude because I order water. I'm getting used to it but it can't be helped. And trust me, I'm as unhappy about it as they are. LOL. A table full of chicas sits down next to us. One of them is very interesting to me. She does not fit the program. Does not look the part. She's a white girl in a sea of color. Cute face with a sweet look, jeans, t-shirt and tennis shoes. I like her. She notices my interest and Mr. GoGo calls her over. Says something to her and she comes over to me and starts rubbing on my chest. Starts talking to me about a massage how she is ready to go to the room. I'm like I'm not interested in no massage. So she hits me with the, ok not just a massage sucky-sucky, fucky-fucky and I look at her like DAMN girl, slow your fucking roll. Pump your breaks. GoGo tells her "my friend doesn't like that, you need to be more tranquilo with him". I tell her maybe later but not right now. So she sits down. I ask GoGo, "How does a girl that looks that sweet go from 0 to sucking dick in 5. 1 seconds?" She had me until she broke into that mode. He tells me the girls are hardcore here in BC. They all have a hard edge and that's what makes the experience qualitatively different from operating in The Sue. Damn straight my brother.
While still recovering from assault with a pussy weapon, my waitress I fancy rolls up with a napkin and tell me she gets off at 2 AM. Excellent! The back up plan is in place. My thought if that all else fails I'll be busting my nut all up in ya by 3. Gogo invites an interesting group of brothers to the table. They have names. But I don't remember any of them. One of them claims to have taken over the apartment of the owner that ran the Jamaican restaurant. Said the owner had to return to his country to handle pressing business. I left it at that. Apparently they were also a VIP group in the BC, because after they sat down the pussy parade kicked into high gear. I observed. And I found it was good.
I'm having a great time because it's a seedy, edgy place. Yo soy tan barrio. It's my kind of place. The evening progresses and we are talking about all kinds of stuff at the table. It's the kind of conversation that you can only have live and in person. Where everyone is on vacation and having fun. Pussy is parading around the table. Up and down the street. In and out of the bar, man I'm loving this scene.
GoGo comes back to the table and tells me that the waitress that I'm waiting on propositioned him in the bathroom. I'm like did you fuck her? He's like "She was suppose to be waiting on my boy". I'm like "No man you are supposed to take that opportunity". He told me he left to tell me about it and I'm like "You passed up the pussy?" he's like "I think she is on drugs or drunk". I say, "That's great". He tells me "I need to ask her about it". I tell him "Ask her about what? I'm still going to fuck her if you didn't". Like Rick James says "The kind you don't take home to mother. " LOL But I respect what you did bro. Being the narcissist that I am. If the situation was reversed, I would have fucked her and told him about it later. But hey that's me. And everybody here knows me. Right?
I was already in the twilight zone, but now we just moved into the third dimension of craziness. He's pointing to her and saying that's her. That's her. Yeah my man that's her. LOL I had over to talk to her about it. But of course she denies it, lights up a cigarette and asks me to buy her a beer. Too cool. I tell her maybe later. I tell her I want to have a beer with her after work. She tells me she has another hour. For me it's all good. Hit me on whatsapp when you are done with work. I'm going to Batay. And I head back to my table. It's about midnight maybe one in the morning I am not keeping track. GoGo wants to show me Batay. I'm cool with that. I got the waitress' number as the fall back position if nothing is going down there.
So we walked down the street to Batay. Up the stairs and in. It's great. I love the place. It's huge, wide open, but pretty desolate inside because this is an off night. But I actually like these conditions. We run into this crazy woman GoGo calls Ms. Santiago. She's all up in my grill. But there is just something not right about this girl. So we dance a little bit then I send her on her way because optical sensors just picke up a target of interest, a smoking hot chica that's behind her. Turns out the chicas I am interested is the cousin of one of Gogo's friends. He explained the relationship to me, but to be honest, he lost me because I wasn't really listening. I was focused on the smoking hot chica!
I rolled up on my target and start talking. She's doesn't understand me at all. I'm thinking my Spanish is bad but it's not that bad. Her cousin tells me she's only been in the country for five days. It's French, Creole and a little bit of English. Oh hell yes! High value target 12 o'clock. I'm tracking. The cousin of the chica invites me to sit down at their table. We are having a conversation and it's a blast because it just like picking up a girl in a regular nightclub. I buy the cousin and her drinks. They are drinking Pina Colada's and they really got me on that one it was 400 pesos, for both. LOL. It's time to arm the moisture seeking missile. Onto the dance floor for some dirty dancing. She's grinding that big O ass on me. I am authorized to engage. I got tone! I got tone! Out the door and down the stairs to waiting motos. We are up, we are on and we are off. I'm on my second Moto ride of the trip with a chica. I'm feeling her up her up really good and I'm liking everything I be puttin my hands on. Riding into the night with a pure sense of anticipation of the bedroom adventure coming up. BOOYAO!
So we arrive at the Villa. GoGo says no matter how good your game is BC always gets you for from 100 to 500 pesos. It's just so relentless that it happens to everybody. Tonight is my turn: Normally it's 50 pesos to ride from the club where I picked up my Haitian hottie to my hotel. So two people is 100 pesos. We arrive at the hotel my date is Haitian, the driver is Haitian and he tells me "My brother we are both black and I know you're going to take care of me so just give me what you want. " I'm thinking oh shit, I'm about to get jacked. He's trying to play on "I don't want to look cheap in front of my date" but I give him the standard hundred pesos that I know is right. At which point he goes off. "Is that THAT the best you could do for me my brother? I'm thinking: "don't hit this mother fucker, don't hit him. I know that's what he needs right now but don't do it. Stay calm, I got this smoking hot chica here. She's ready to go and no you're not going to do this to me. You are not going to spoil my mood and my adventure". I gave him another hundred pesos. Go away fuck away with your trifling ass.
In the front gate, into lobby, stop by the front desk, hands over her cedula? Five days in the country and you have a cedula? Hmmmm. How did that happen? The pending action puts that question on the back burner. Up the stairs and into the room. She's a sweetheart. The panties come off and her entire ass is tatted up. It was big. It was firm. It was the kind of ass "even white boys have to shout Baby got Back". She was very sensual and loving. But when it was time rock the party, she took the dick with no complaints about me going too hard, being to big or position changes. I spent a lot of time in doggy so I could observe the work she had done. It was great. It was actually better then any sex I've had with a Dominican here on the island. It was the second experience with a Haitian chica that I've had like that. She left me completely satisfied.
She hit the shower afterwards and even though it was late she wanted to go home. Although we never discussed money, I left some for her when she was in the shower. She comes out of the shower, gets dressed. She looks at it, picks it up, counts it. She has a sad pouty look on her face. I ask if something is wrong. She says yes. "What's wrong?" I ask. It's not enough. I'm like no? How much do you want? She tells me. I say not a problem for you my love and give it to her. She lights up. I don't care. The experience for me was priceless!
Even though it is late (almost 4 AM) she says she wants to go home. So we are down the stairs. She retrieves her ID and the front desk clerk sees her out. I'm back up the stairs and checking my phone. Nothing. I hit up my waitress. I ask if she was still interested. I received an immediate response. She said yes. But tells me she saw me with another chica and so didn't want to bother me. Good chica, I like that. She asked if she could see me now. I told her I needed to get some sleep. I would holla at her later. She's on my to do list for next trip.
Lights out!
Great report, that is your true calling, not wasting energy on useless debates. You remember things in the report I had forgotten. You made me live it again which a good report will make happen.
Thanks
That was much better than your first time in Sosua report. Your details put me right there with you.
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;1881438]So, on the drive back from The Sue, Mr. GoGo teaches me how to handle an AMET speed trap. We are rolling south. Speed unknown because I'm riding shotgun. And we are on an approach vector. The uniformed AMAT officer is on the left side of the road waving his radar gun. He begins walking out into the road waving more franticly. We are closing the distance. He is standing in the middle of northbound lane at the dividing line, waving both arms like a crazed man, just as we blow past him. Mr. GoGo doesn't so much as tap the breaks, ease off the accelerator, or miss a beat when it comes to our conversation. Why he doesn't just change his Spanish name to Santiago is beyond me.
Mr. GoGo drops me off at my ocean view apartment and rolls to the airport to turn in his SUV. I head into my apartment. Dining room is flooded due to heavy rains while I was gone. Fuck it. I'll clean it up later. I got pussy to catch. Drop the big bag. Load up the small bag and head back out. I pull up to the airport in the gran jefe mobile just as Mr. GoGo is coming out. I love it when a plan comes together. Now we are rolling to Boca Chica and it is raining like a very hard. But it's not a problem because we are big dogs, off the porch, and running without a leash. Don't hate mother fuckers (you know who you are)!
So we arrive in Boca Chica at the Villa Capri Hotel to check in. Mr. GoGo has a reservation, but I'm just winging it, and I don't. They don't have a room for me. The only room they do have is the two bedroom suite with a balcony. Mr. GoGo graciously invites me to share his room so we split the first night. It's $35 each. Now that's a damn good deal. Drop the luggage and head off to the Strip for a bite to eat. We decide on Village by the Beach. It is still raining very hard and although the table is under cover rain is coming off the overhangs like it being poured from buckets...[/QUOTE]Nice detailed report. It was so clear that I thought I was walking the clubs in Manilla & Angeles City, Philippines. Good job Sub.
[QUOTE=GrownMan1;1881696]That was much better than your first time in Sosua report. Your details put me right there with you.[/QUOTE]Thank you GrownMan and Mr. GoGo. Only men in the arena can recognize quality work when they see it. The critics are worried about spelling, grammar, improper word use and punctuation. But when you are a critic that's all you have to offer. And we know the credit doesn't go to them.
Had to spend a little time putting the idiot savants of the board in check. Now I have time to move onto more creative endeavours. That was the cliff note version of Sosua. My initial impressions. As they say in the news, the story is still developing.
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;1881438]I'm having a great time because it's a seedy, edgy place. ! High value target 12 o'clock. I'm tracking. The cousin of the chica invites me to sit down at their table. We are having a conversation and it's a blast because it just like picking up a girl in a regular nightclub... The panties come off and her entire ass is tatted up. It was big. It was firm.
She hit the shower afterwards and even though it was late she wanted to go home. Although we never discussed money, I left some for her when she was in the shower. She comes out of the shower, gets dressed. She looks at it, picks it up, counts it. She has a sad pouty look on her face. I ask if something is wrong. She says yes. "What's wrong?" I ask. It's not enough. I'm like no? How much do you want? She tells me. Even though it is late (almost 4 AM) she says she wants to go home.![/QUOTE]So much does a high value target with a fully tatted ass found in a seedy place where it was like picking up a girl in a regular nightclub get for short-timing you?
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;1881497]Mr. Frannie, thank you for being a voracious reader of my posts. I'm glad you liked it. Still haven't put me on ignore yet? Out of a 4073 word report that is your comment. Interesting!
That makes you a critic. Try being a MAN in the arena for once![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Frannie;1881915]I thought that was the most interesting aspect of your post.[/QUOTE]Thank you for proving that you are nothing more than just a critic and still not ready to step into the arena. I understand. And so do most others.
[QUOTE=Golfinho;1881773]So much does a high value target with a fully tatted ass found in a seedy place[/QUOTE]Mr. Golfinho, I picked her out of Batay. Here is what I actually wrote:
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;1881438]So we walked down the street to Batay. Up the stairs and in. It's great. I love the place. It's huge, wide open, but pretty desolate inside because this is an off night. But I actually like these conditions.[/QUOTE]Wasn't seedy in there. It's a state of the art club that attracts both tourists and Dominicans and on the weekends it is packed. It's the place to be in BC after hours. If you don't know know you know.
Maybe you didn't read my report accurately? No comprendo. Que es su pregunta otro vez? (I don't understand. What was your question again)?
[QUOTE=FlbMac31;1881724]Nice detailed report. It was so clear that I thought I was walking the clubs in Manilla & Angeles City, Philippines. Good job Sub.[/QUOTE]Thank you FibMac. Only men in the arena recognize quality work when they see it. The rest are critics and we know they do not count.
[QUOTE=Golfinho;1881773]So much does a high value target with a fully tatted ass found in a seedy place where it was like picking up a girl in a regular nightclub get for short-timing you?[/QUOTE]So how much does a high-value target with a fully tatted ass found in *Batay?* where it was like picking up a girl in a regular nightclub get for short-timing you (leaving at 4 am)? Comprende?
[QUOTE=Frannie;1881915]I thought that was the most interesting aspect of your post.[/QUOTE]I have not read Subcmdr's "Boca Chica" notes but going through his usual retorts to prove his Manhood (and without fail, on an abrasive note), I noted "endeavor" and "skeptic". You being a Brit, may have wondered why.
[QUOTE=Golfinho;1882004]So how much does a high-value target with a fully tatted ass found in *Batay?* where it was like picking up a girl in a regular nightclub get for short-timing you (leaving at 4 am)? Comprende?[/QUOTE]Mr. Golfinho, are you continuing to have reading comprehension problems? Here is what I wrote:
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;1881438]Although we never discussed money, I left some for her when she was in the shower. She comes out of the shower, gets dressed. She looks at it, picks it up, counts it. She has a sad pouty look on her face. I ask if something is wrong. She says yes. "What's wrong?" I ask. It's not enough. I'm like no? How much do you want? She tells me. I say not a problem for you my love and give it to her. She lights up. I don't care. The experience for me was priceless! Even though it is late (almost 4 AM) she says she wants to go home.[/QUOTE]Objection! The question assumes facts not in evidence. Sustained. Rephrase the question Mr. Golfinho.
Dime su pregunta otro vez. Comprende?
[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;1882116]I have not read Subcmdr's "Boca Chica" notes but going through his usual retorts to prove his Manhood (and without fail, on an abrasive note), I noted "endeavor" and "skeptic". You being a Brit, may have wondered why.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=SubCmdr;1881763]The critics are worried about spelling, grammar, improper word use and punctuation. But when you are a critic that's all you have to offer. And we know the credit doesn't go to them.[/QUOTE]Enough said!
[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;1882116]I have not read Subcmdr's "Boca Chica" notes but going through his usual retorts to prove his Manhood (and without fail, on an abrasive note), I noted "endeavor" and "skeptic". You being a Brit, may have wondered why.[/QUOTE]This post really surprised me, because I consider you are very mellow and fair guy. So for you not to scan below for his report before you make a new judgment is completely out of character for you. Maybe you were so concerned about siding with your fellow Brit instead of doing research and fully understanding and then making a judgment shows that country loyalty trumps being fair.
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;1882138]Mr. Golfinho, are you continuing to have reading comprehension problems? Here is what I wrote:
Objection! The question assumes facts not in evidence. Sustained. Rephrase the question Mr. Golfinho.
Dime su pregunta otro vez. Comprende?[/QUOTE]I'll ask. What was your original offering? How much more did you give her? Pesos or dollars?
[QUOTE=MrGogo;1882226]... siding with your fellow Brit[/QUOTE]I don't think Tempoecorto will be very pleased to be called "a Brit".
[QUOTE=MrGogo;1882226]This post really surprised me, because I consider you are very mellow and fair guy. So for you not to scan below for his report before you make a new judgment is completely out of character for you. Maybe you were so concerned about siding with your fellow Brit instead of doing research and fully understanding and then making a judgment shows that country loyalty trumps being fair.[/QUOTE]Gogo,
The spelling automaton on this forum did not allow readers such as yourself see the fun of Sherlocking (if one could coin such a word) by looking at words used: I had written "Endeavor (with an added u)" and "Skeptic (with a see rather than the K)" that did not come through but those British spellings were used by the original author and it was curious. Perhaps this person was raised in the islands many of which has strong British influence. The words appeared not in his long mail (for which I do not have patience) but in his short and periodic retorts to whoever dares to write a comment. I have no interest in siding with no one (double negatives intended), other than the fact that this person has an abrasive tone that detracts from the usual information exchanges. But in this specific case, a spelling quirk was merely an interesting pointer, and certainly not meant as a critique. Finally, as Charles Pooter pointed out, I have no fellow Brits in this forum, LOL.
This is a thread to discuss the named topics and share my adventures here in the Dominican Republic (DR). A catch all place for things that just don't fit into the action packed threads of the different cities that are focused solely on the pro action. Cultural observations, philosophy, economics, game, chica psychology, negotiation, and anything else that leads to getting the panties on the floor action (POF) that we are all looking for.
[QUOTE=GrownMan1;1882801]I asked her for a BJ and she said only with a condom. I told her I do not want a CBJ.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Bravo;1882892]On my last trip to Sosua, about 90% of the girls I was with, insisted on CBJ. [/QUOTE]And now we have another example of the "qualitative difference" I spoke about between sex with regular women and sex with working girls. I do not receive offers for CBJ from my harem girls. But my experiences in The Sue and BC mirror those of the above posters at about a 75% rate of CBJ.
I have regular girl on my list who is at best a 7. However the sex with her is a 10. She is no super freak but sex with her is just real. She enjoys it and you can feel it. Sex is 90% mental. Sport fucking is a blast when you have been cooped up for months in the States. Now the down side of the quote regular girls. They need to courted and groomed. This takes money and time. If you have both then go for it.
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;1882957]And now we have another example of the "qualitative difference" I spoke about between sex with regular women and sex with working girls. I do not receive offers for CBJ from my harem girls. But my experiences in The Sue and BC mirror those of the above posters at about a 75% rate of CBJ.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=OldKool;1883152]Sex is 90% mental. Sport fucking is a blast when you have been cooped up for months in the States. [/QUOTE]For me I like my sex to be more physical. I get asked why I deal with a lot of Haitians. In my experience, the Haitians fuck game is overall better. I don't want super pretty in the bed if she can't work her ass. Those pretty ass Dominicans coming out of Classico don't look like they are ready to put in work. They have the attitude like I am pretty and that's all I need to be. Those bunnies (ol taught me that term) don't want you to messy up there hair and make them sweat. They are for the guy that love the idea of sexing a pretty girl even if the session is average. I always tell my friends first you going to fuck girls of your dream. After you get that out your system you're going to want to choose a chica you can have fun with.
[QUOTE=GrownMan1;1883399]I always tell my friends first you going to fuck girls of your dream. After you get that out your system you're going to want to choose a chica you can have fun with.[/QUOTE]The Germans have a word for a girl who's very good-looking but not that much into sex. They call her an "optical fuck" ("Optikfick"). It means you get aroused by what you see and not so much by what you feel.
This being said I'd have thought the main difference between a regular girl and a one-night-stand girl is that the former would agree to go bareback given enough guarantees. Bareback makes much difference.
Even if the sex is covered I find CBJ a joke. If a girl anywhere offers me CBJ I turn it down because it makes my cock deflate like a punctured balloon.
I have found that there is absolutely no difference between any type of sex with a condom and bareback. When I say no difference I mean that quality of my sexual experiences has not been affected by either of those factors. I have received excellent sex while using a condom complete with CBJ. And I have had mediocre sex during completely bareback encounters.
I have a tendency to feel the energy and vibe of the situation and go with it. By going with the flow and letting her choose the activities she is comfortable with when we are together the first time, I tend to get a better performance out of her. This is true for my harem, booty-call and working girls.
Now, I don't really require much out of my sexual experiences. Tacit cooperation and not fighting me is more important than engaging in any one type of physical activity. But she needs to be able to take the dick and have some endurance. If she taps out, as long as she is willing to finish the job some other way I'm appreciative of that.
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;1884774]I have found that there is absolutely no difference between any type of sex with a condom and bareback. When I say no difference I mean that quality of my sexual experiences has not been affected by either of those factors. I have received excellent sex while using a condom complete with CBJ. And I have had mediocre sex during completely bareback encounters.
[/QUOTE]You said that when you were in Sosua, on one occasion you described, you found it difficult to climax. That could have been partly because of using a condom which would reduce sensitivity.
We are all different. Personally I cannot stand using a condom for any kind of sex, and would rather go without sex than use a condom, though obviously there are times when it would be foolish not to use one. Mucus membranes beat rubber every time. Sex with a condom is like jerking off into a sandwich wrapper.
Mr. Frannie this is what you said then:
[QUOTE=Frannie;1884107]Executive Summary: Went to Sosua, got a room, walked around a bit, got something to eat, found a nice-looking hooker, struck a deal for sex, but found it hard to finish the act due to taking Viagra.[/QUOTE]This is what you say now:
[QUOTE=Frannie;1884991]You said that when you were in Sosua, on one occasion you described, you found it difficult to climax. That could have been partly because of using a condom which would reduce sensitivity.[/QUOTE]Actually you are wrong on both accounts. This is what I said in my report:
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;1883665]The problem is endurance. She can't take no dick. And she hurting herself because just when I'm about to give her the only gift I have (the gift of leche) she gets tired of the position and wants to change.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;1885171]Mr. Frannie this is what you said then:
This is what you say now:
Actually you are wrong on both accounts. This is what I said in my report:[/QUOTE]From your report:
[QUOTE]She goes into this tirade about taking to long to fuck her, being on Viagra, not giving her my leche quickly enough and because of all that I have to give her 500 more pesos. [/QUOTE]It is a well-known fact that both taking too much Viagra and using a condom both make it harder to climax in a reasonable time. You did not specifically deny that you used Viagra, not that it really matters. Anyway she thought you were having trouble coming in a reasonable time, but you thought she had difficulty having sex for a normal length of time for a man to come. Who knows?
The girls we sport fuck with are often not aroused consequently the sex is not comfortable for them. I bring lube and use massage to gain ease and compliance. Men can not perform when they are not aroused but women can fake it. I noticed in the past that some girls limit your penatration. It became obvious to me when a Haitian girl open wide and pulled me in deep.
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;1885171]Mr. Frannie this is what you said then:
This is what you say now:
Actually you are wrong on both accounts. This is what I said in my report:[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Frannie;1885334]Anyway she thought you were having trouble coming in a reasonable time[/QUOTE]Mr. Frannie,
With all due respect, when did the woman who is being paid for sex get to dictate the "reasonable time" the man who is paying has to cum? Presuming there was even such a thing and there isn't (unless the Dominican Supreme Court has made a ruling I'm not aware of). OK, let's play this out to a level of complete absurdity: Wouldn't it be better for her to state specifically the amount of time you had and then set a stop watch? Of course this would all need to be discussed before hand in order to determine if the man was going to be satisfied with the time allowed. To do anything else is simply a "bait and switch" tactic. In this particular case in Sosua it did not happen.
Getting back to my original post:
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;1884774]I have found that there is absolutely no difference between any type of sex with a condom and bareback. When I say no difference I mean that quality of my sexual experiences has not been affected by either of those factors. Tacit cooperation and not fighting me is more important than engaging in any one type of physical activity. But she needs to be able to take the dick and have some endurance. If she taps out, as long as she is willing to finish the job some other way I'm appreciative of that.[/QUOTE]From my Sosua trip report.
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;1883665]But to my surprise she goes ahead and finishes the job. She spits and is pissed.[/QUOTE]Although she could not take the dick nor was she tacitly cooperating. She finished the job and therefore I was appreciative of that. The use of the condom ultimately proved to be unrelated to my perceived satisfaction. The more you quote from my report, the more you provide support for the points I made in my original post.
[QUOTE=OldKool;1885360]The girls we sport fuck with are often not aroused consequently the sex is not comfortable for them.[/QUOTE]You are quite right about pro women not being aroused. However, the other side of the story is that nowadays, thanks to watching too much porn, and to medication, many men think humping for one hour is the norm. Indeed if you hump for too long, your dick gets sore and is not too much of a happy camper after three days of orgy and so, it is not a win for a man either.
[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;1885483]You are quite right about pro women not being aroused. However, the other side of the story is that nowadays, thanks to watching too much porn, and to medication, many men think humping for one hour is the norm. Indeed if you hump for too long, your dick gets sore and is not too much of a happy camper after three days of orgy and so, it is not a win for a man either.[/QUOTE]I always tell a chica if she can makes leche early she's really done her job. For me good pussy Trump's a good session.
[QUOTE=GrownMan1;1886663]I always tell a chica if she can makes leche early she's really done her job. For me good pussy Trump's a good session.[/QUOTE]I usually go for 30-40 minutes. I always bring my own lube and condoms so I know they are safe.
In the old days, I would go for 2 shots on goal. But now I prefer as much "IN" time as possible.
[QUOTE=RedNose1;1887548]I usually go for 30-40 minutes. I always bring my own lube and condoms so I know they are safe.
In the old days, I would go for 2 shots on goal. But now I prefer as much "IN" time as possible.[/QUOTE]That's right Mr. RedNose1! Men in the arena go hard. Welcome to the club.
[QUOTE=OldKool;1888261]When you have girls who meet your needs and are not working girls you build special relationship. They provide you with very good sex and GFE. You provide them gifts and cash when it is reasonable for you. The sex with these ladies is usually a step above the average spot fuck.[/QUOTE]Thank you Mr. OldKool for your "straight no chase" explanation of the concept I have described as the "qualitative difference" between regular women and street chicas. You are indeed a man in the arena!
Back to the subject of my thread:
Some of you motherfuckers come on this board and want to brag about how much support you provide your temporary employees. The poor women of Sosua are just feeding their families and you have flown with dick in one hand and pesos in the other to provide much needed relief for the economic misery that pervades the lives of chicas throughout the island. It is time for a reality check. Better close your eye holes cause the Subcmdr about to kick some real knowledge in ya cerebral cortex about the cost of living in the Dominican Republic.
1000 pesos a month will feed one kid. That's right! I said 1000 pesos feeds one kid for a month. And you paying the chicas 1000 to 1500 pesos a fuck? You are helping feed her kids? Only if you are her first fuck of the month? Nah man, more likely you be paying for the iPhone / Samsung Galaxy, hair and nails prepared in the salon, clothes, shoes, visits to the gym and the boyfriend who knows or doesn't know how she is really making her money. Trying to maintain their dignity my ass! They are there because they made a choice. It's easy money for them. That's my opinion. You don't have to like it. This is a user blog. I'm not clogging up the main forum with the diatribe posted daily by most of the membership.
Yet some wish to take issue with the way I run my PPDS (Personal pussy delivery service). I operate from the knowledge of what things really cost here. I can support my entire harem (currently 3) on less than the average cost of a plane ticket for the Sexual Tourist. And that's before they have paid for hotel, food, gifts (some expensive; most are cheap) and hourly (or nightly in some cases) pussy rental.
When presented with the possibility that since I live here I might actually know more about parts of the island other never explore and that I have the chance to deal with a different type of chica in a different way, well that idea is immediately rejected. When presented with the idea that there are significant differences in the different chicas available on the island, the Sexual Tourists are confronted with an idea that simply does not compute and it throws them into an apoplectic fit. From the very moment of my first post I have understood this.
I did not have to negotiate an amount up front before any of my harem girls slept with me. There wasn't a quid pro quo. I didn't have to interview them for a detailed list of sexual acts they would or would not perform with me. In fact none of my harem girls ever asked for any money up front. In addition we have the advantage of being adults. Healthy relationships based on mutual respect. I don't have to stalk them on Facebook or lose sleep watching their "last active" status on Whatsapp. We are all free agents. But we take care of each other. That's what's understood. The question of if the respect is based on their personal enjoyment of me or my money is an exercise left for the reader. I'm perfectly content with enjoying getting my dick sucked as much as I want or fucking them until one of us taps out. With my harem girls, I don't have to exercise some enhanced sense of manhood, "my way or the highway" mentality in making sure my pussy is on call and available to me. I'm perfectly fine with working around the things that come up in the day-to-day lives of regular women (kids, work, school, periods, in some cases boyfriends).
Booty call girls are a little different. There is a straight puta personal aspect to those relationships. And they have a more traditional transactional nature to them. But it's still a little more gentile than the straight street chica mentality I experienced in Sosua or Boca Chica. But of course my philosophy is more along the lines of: "Your time, your money, your dick!
An esteemed member and I had a conversation. I was wondering why so much of the membership is unable to make the fine distinctions between the different types of chicas that live here. Of course my position is very clear. Touristas de sexo (Sex Tourists) think they know the Republica Dominicana because they have been coming here for years and they have traveled the island working with garden tools to sow their oats within the narrow confines of the fertile lands they seek. Somehow they feel the narrow view of the country and its culture they experience makes them experts on the people and culture within the entire Dominican Republic. That's the real problem I have with the Sexual Tourists and critics. They project their experiences onto others and make assumptions about the country they are visiting based on a very narrow range of experiences. Then they have the nerve to be critical of me or to tell me I don't know what I'm doing. Of course I do motherfuckers. I live here! But the critics are many; they are vocal; they are the critics. And men in the arena know that they do not count.
Every seen a Haitian woman pushing a baby stroller through the barrio loaded with candy and snacks for sale? If you haven't then maybe you should get out more. My number #3 works 5 days a week, 10 hours a day. Goes to university on the sixth day. On the seven day she rests. She makes 12000 pesos a month. My cash gifts add seventeen percent to her monthly income (do the math). She cooks for me and cleans my (ocean view) apartment when she's here. She fucks and sucks me as much as I want. She wants to be here more than I want her to be. This is what I am speaking of when I say "qualitative difference". It is well documented that only about 20% of all women in the Dominican Republic are involved in prostitution. How do the other 80% of women survive since they are not interested in being paid to take your dick? May we have the envelope please?
They put in work! They put in work someplace other than on their backs or on their knees.
Just saying!
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;1889303]
1000 pesos a month will feed one kid. That's right! I said 1000 pesos feeds one kid for a month. And you paying the chicas 1000 to 1500 pesos a fuck? You are helping feed her kids? Only if you are her first fuck of the month? [/QUOTE]I would like to know how you calculated this and what nutritional standards you consider to be reasonable.
I agree that rice is pretty cheap and older children can drink water, not juices or sodas, and fresh fruit is fairly cheap in the DR, but you say you can feed a child (age unspecified) for 1000 pesos a month, but one glass of milk daily or a small carton of chocolate milk would use up more than half of this budget of about US $0. 75 per day regardless of whether you buy ready made or the powders like Nido or Alpha plus that have added vitamins and minerals formulated for children. School lunches in the DR cost 100 pesos or more daily, so that alone could be 2000 pesos per month. [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord131][CodeWord131][/url] are 15 pesos each if bought singly and a bit cheaper if bought in larger packs, but 2 or 3 per day would meet your 1000 pesos. How about health insurance and the cost of medications? A bottle of pediatric Augmentin is how much? I think about 400 pesos. A bottle of cough medicine? A copayment at the pediatrician office? And then there is the cost of childrens clothing, school uniforms, shoes, back-to-school supplies, and so on. Transportation to school in a guagua will run about 2000 pesos a month and not much cheaper using motoconchos. And then women may have to pay caregivers to mind the children while they work if they don't have mothers doing this.
[QUOTE=Frannie;1889542]I would like to know how you calculated this and what nutritional standards you consider to be reasonable.[/QUOTE]In your reply, you jump all over the age spectrum in your estimate of costs and we both know they will differ dramatically depending on the specific age of the child. Since you desire to challenge my statement, I would like to see your age specific list of expenses for raising a child in the Dominican Republic at Dominican standards in pesos. Pick any age you would like. Give me your specific examples of how much it costs to feed your child or the child of someone you intimately know. Feel free to do this by PM if you don't want to reveal this private information in a public forum.
[QUOTE=Frannie;1889542]How about health insurance and the cost of medications? A bottle of pediatric Augmentin is how much? I think about 400 pesos. A bottle of cough medicine? A copayment at the pediatrician office? And then there is the cost of childrens clothing, school uniforms, shoes, back-to-school supplies, and so on. Transportation to school in a guagua will run about 2000 pesos a month and not much cheaper using motoconchos. And then women may have to pay caregivers to mind the children while they work if they don't have mothers doing this.[/QUOTE]You have a valid point. You have pointed out that there are additional costs of raising a child (age unspecified) here in the Dominican Republic. But my post did not address those issues. I specifically addressed the costs of feeding a child. Here is what I wrote:
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;1889303]1000 pesos a month will feed one kid. That's right! I said 1000 pesos feeds one kid for a month. And you paying the chicas 1000 to 1500 pesos a fuck? You are helping feed her kids? Only if you are her first fuck of the month? Nah man, more likely you be paying for the iPhone / Samsung Galaxy, hair and nails prepared in the salon, clothes, shoes, visits to the gym and the boyfriend who knows or doesn't know how she is really making her money. Trying to maintain their dignity my ass! They are there because they made a choice. It's easy money for them. That's my opinion. You don't have to like it. This is a user blog.
It is well documented that only about 20% of all women in the Dominican Republic are involved in prostitution. How do the other 80% of women survive since they are not interested in being paid to take your dick? May we have the envelope please?
They put in work! They put in work someplace other than on their backs or on their knees.
Just saying![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;1889764]In your reply, you jump all over the age spectrum in your estimate of costs and we both know they will differ dramatically depending on the specific age of the child. Since you desire to challenge my statement, I would like to see your age specific list of expenses for raising a child in the Dominican Republic at Dominican standards in pesos. Pick any age you would like. Give me your specific examples of how much it costs to feed your child or the child of someone you intimately know. Feel free to do this by PM if you don't want to reveal this private information in a public forum.
You have a valid point. You have pointed out that there are additional costs of raising a child (age unspecified) here in the Dominican Republic. But my post did not address those issues. I specifically addressed the costs of feeding a child. Here is what I wrote:[/QUOTE]When you are buying food for a family, it is almost impossible to quantify the exact amount of food bought for a single child at any specific age point, but you have claimed that a child can be fed for less than a dollar a day. I know of a child whose mother was paying around 2000 pesos per month for school lunches, so that is about 100 pesos per school day, so already double the amount that you state is the norm in the DR. The exact amount varied depending on exactly what she ate. It was no cheaper to pack lunches or snacks for the child to take to school.
But a small ice cream cone is about 30 pesos, a quart carton of milk is about 42 pesos, a small bottle of cold water is 10 pesos, a can of beans is 40 pesos, so how can you feed a child on about 33 pesos a day, which is what you say?
Since you have this certain knowledge that it only costs 1000 pesos per month to feed a child in the DR, I am sure there are lots of readers and lost of families who would like to know how this is done. If you can feed a child on 75 cents a day in the DR, you can probably do it on 50 cents per day in the US.
I realize you said this is just for food, and does not include other expenses of raising children, but I think that when girls say they need money to feed their children, they are just simplifying the whole story a bit to avoid going into details. If the chica's mother is taking care of the children, the chica is probably sending her money out of which the grandmother will also feed herself, buy [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord131][CodeWord131][/url], milk formula, and other things the child needs. When a chica says she needs money for food for her children, that is not a promise to spend any funds received on absolutely nothing but nutrition for the child (ren).
Anyway, you have made this claim that a child in the DR can be fed on 1000 pesos a month, which is less than a dollar a day. Now please explain what this will buy for the child, so that we know you are not just bullshitting. You are the person on the ground who has this superior knowledge that we do not have. I, on the other hand have lived in the DR for more than 2 years (though I am not there now) and fed two children at various ages and do not see how one could feed a child on 1000 pesos per month even if you eliminated all luxuries and treats and minimized portions of proteins like chicken, fish, and eggs and fed the child mainly on rice and beans.
Share your knowledge with us, if you have any.
You missed the entire point of my post. Women do not need to be prostitutes to feed their children. If you wish to debate this issue with me then address the fact that it is estimated only 20% of women are prostitutes in the Dominican Republic, but 80% of the children in the Dominican Republic are not starving. Do any of you care to share your knowledge on this issue? Do you have any to share? Here is my knowledge on the issue: I've taken my #2 to the store and she has spent 5,500 pesos on just food (acknowledging that it takes a village of critics to raise a child) for herself, two children, her sister and her child (to share) and the Aunt who lives with her. She has told me the food would last a month. Three adults and three children: 916.67 (rounded to the second digit) per human being.
Pick any reasonable number you wish. I'll stipulate to it. Then put your money where your mouth is and hand it to me. I will take the money you hand to me and I will give it to a regular woman and ask her if she can feed her kid with it for a month. I bet she will be able too. In reality, the individual that has made the challenge in my user blog is not using his pesos in Dominican Republic to directly buy food for a child or children. That individual is just talking about it. I am and I have. When I was at the store with my #2 the money came out of my pocket. I loaded the food into my rather large "gas guzzling" vehicle that uses diesel fuel. I drove from the store that was further than two blocks from my house. And all of this required that I leave my apartment. But when I don't you can be certain I'm enjoying my ocean view with or without company.
I'm kicking street knowledge straight in your eyeholes motherfuckers. Open them up! My point remains that prostitutes make a choice. A choice the majority of women on this island do not make. If the parties involved feel like they are doing social work instead of doing business when they are together. I'm fine with that. But don't tell me they need to do it for their children.
Just saying!
There are a lot of prostitutes in the DR. You say it is estimated that 20% of women there are prostitutes. Where does that figure come from? I think it's way way way too high. 1 in 5 women are not prostitutes.
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;1890283]You missed the entire point of my post. Women do not need to be prostitutes to feed their children. If you wish to debate this issue with me then address the fact that it is estimated only 20% of women are prostitutes in the Dominican Republic, but 80% of the children in the Dominican Republic are not starving. Do any of you care to share your knowledge on this issue? Do you have any to share? Here is my knowledge on the issue: I've taken my #2 to the store and she has spent 5,500 pesos on just food (acknowledging that it takes a village of critics to raise a child) for herself, two children, her sister and her child (to share) and the Aunt who lives with her. She has told me the food would last a month. Three adults and three children: 916.67 (rounded to the second digit) per human being.
Pick any reasonable number you wish. I'll stipulate to it. Then put your money where your mouth is and hand it to me. I will take the money you hand to me and I will give it to a regular woman and ask her if she can feed her kid with it for a month. I bet she will be able too. In reality, the individual that has made the challenge in my user blog is not using his pesos in Dominican Republic to directly buy food for a child or children. That individual is just talking about it. I am and I have. When I was at the store with my #2 the money came out of my pocket. I loaded the food into my rather large "gas guzzling" vehicle that uses diesel fuel. I drove from the store that was further than two blocks from my house. And all of this required that I leave my apartment. But when I don't you can be certain I'm enjoying my ocean view with or without company.
I'm kicking street knowledge straight in your eyeholes motherfuckers. Open them up! My point remains that prostitutes make a choice. A choice the majority of women on this island do not make. If the parties involved feel like they are doing social work instead of doing business when they are together. I'm fine with that. But don't tell me they need to do it for their children.
Just saying![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;1890283]You missed the entire point of my post. Women do not need to be prostitutes to feed their children. If you wish to debate this issue with me then address the fact that it is estimated only 20% of women are prostitutes in the Dominican Republic, but 80% of the children in the Dominican Republic are not starving. Do any of you care to share your knowledge on this issue? Do you have any to share? Here is my knowledge on the issue: I've taken my #2 to the store and she has spent 5,500 pesos on just food (acknowledging that it takes a village of critics to raise a child) for herself, two children, her sister and her child (to share) and the Aunt who lives with her. She has told me the food would last a month. Three adults and three children: 916.67 (rounded to the second digit) per human being.
Pick any reasonable number you wish. I'll stipulate to it. Then put your money where your mouth is and hand it to me. I will take the money you hand to me and I will give it to a regular woman and ask her if she can feed her kid with it for a month. I bet she will be able too. In reality, the individual that has made the challenge in my user blog is not using his pesos in Dominican Republic to directly buy food for a child or children. That individual is just talking about it. I am and I have. When I was at the store with my #2 the money came out of my pocket. I loaded the food into my rather large "gas guzzling" vehicle that uses diesel fuel. I drove from the store that was further than two blocks from my house. And all of this required that I leave my apartment. But when I don't you can be certain I'm enjoying my ocean view with or without company.
I'm kicking street knowledge straight in your eyeholes motherfuckers. Open them up! My point remains that prostitutes make a choice. A choice the majority of women on this island do not make. If the parties involved feel like they are doing social work instead of doing business when they are together. I'm fine with that. But don't tell me they need to do it for their children.
Just saying![/QUOTE]The food might last a month or more if it is rice, dried foods, or canned stuff, but that is not the same as saying that they would not need to buy any more food for a month. Fresh meats, fruits, vegetables, milk, bread will not last that long and most Dominicans don't have freezers and the electricity supply is somewhat unreliable, so people don't stock up on perishables.
My Peruvian cleaning lady in Spain used say that the working girls are too lazy to trapear I. E. Cleaning other people's shit. She worked hard, six days a week and made a decent living. I doubt if she actually knew anyone selling ass, but I still agree with her to some degree. My experiences may not be valid in DR, but might be, as well.
I don't know any other group of people that love money and buying things with that money, like these girls, except their families. Of course there are the Wall Street brokers or other groups of people, but I don't know them, so I don't talk about them. There are families that don't know anything, what these girls are doing or how much they earn, but there are also many families that close their eyes and refuse to think about it, when they receive a lot of money, which cannot be earned cleaning hotel rooms or waiting tables.
I have known many girls that have had hard times in some moment of their lives and have started selling tail to get over it, but when they get used to having money they don't want to start cleaning other people's houses anymore. Too much work for so little money. They want the house. They send the down payment for the house back to their families. The families make the down payment, but not all the money received goes to the house, because they needed a television. The two children of the girl are so much trouble that they need to hire somebody to take care of them. The children need new school uniforms. Not just two new school uniforms, but three, because the cousin's daughter also needs a new uniform and the girl in Spain makes a LOT of money cleaning hotel rooms. The children of the girl are miserable because their mother is far away, so she buys them 2 four wheelers. One is not enough and it is actually the girl's brother who wants the four wheelers, because the daughters are still 8 and 9 and cannot drive them. And if she doesn't send the family more money, they complain and threaten to sell the house.
The girls sacrifice a lot to get all that money to buy things to their families and to themselves. They want the latest iPhone and the Louis Vuitton wallet to show their colleagues and they want the most expensive suitcase, just in case someday they can afford to travel for holidays back home. It's not cheap, because there are so many family members that need to be bought a present.
I am not moralizing anybody, how could I? I am happy when somebody wants my money when I want her body to rent. I am not saying I don't like money, but there are so many things in my life, and I suppose in your lives too, that are more important than money (when you reach a certain level of financial security). Maybe most of the girls in RD have started the business to get Pampers and milk to their fatherless children, but partying, drinking Presidentes every night, iPhones and fast money becomes a way of life very easily and it is difficult go back to normal life.
[QUOTE=Nordico;1890699]My Peruvian cleaning lady in Spain used say that the working girls are too lazy to trapear I. E. Cleaning other people's shit. She worked hard, six days a week and made a decent living. I doubt if she actually knew anyone selling ass, but I still agree with her to some degree. My experiences may not be valid in DR, but might be, as well.
I don't know any other group of people that love money and buying things with that money, like these girls, except their families. Of course there are the Wall Street brokers or other groups of people, but I don't know them, so I don't talk about them. There are families that don't know anything, what these girls are doing or how much they earn, but there are also many families that close their eyes and refuse to think about it, when they receive a lot of money, which cannot be earned cleaning hotel rooms or waiting tables.
I have known many girls that have had hard times in some moment of their lives and have started selling tail to get over it, but when they get used to having money they don't want to start cleaning other people's houses anymore. Too much work for so little money. They want the house. They send the down payment for the house back to their families. The families make the down payment, but not all the money received goes to the house, because they needed a television. The two children of the girl are so much trouble that they need to hire somebody to take care of them. The children need new school uniforms. Not just two new school uniforms, but three, because the cousin's daughter also needs a new uniform and the girl in Spain makes a LOT of money cleaning hotel rooms. The children of the girl are miserable because their mother is far away, so she buys them 2 four wheelers. One is not enough and it is actually the girl's brother who wants the four wheelers, because the daughters are still 8 and 9 and cannot drive them. And if she doesn't send the family more money, they complain and threaten to sell the house.
The girls sacrifice a lot to get all that money to buy things to their families and to themselves. They want the latest iPhone and the Louis Vuitton wallet to show their colleagues and they want the most expensive suitcase, just in case someday they can afford to travel for holidays back home. It's not cheap, because there are so many family members that need to be bought a present.
I am not moralizing anybody, how could I? I am happy when somebody wants my money when I want her body to rent. I am not saying I don't like money, but there are so many things in my life, and I suppose in your lives too, that are more important than money (when you reach a certain level of financial security). Maybe most of the girls in RD have started the business to get Pampers and milk to their fatherless children, but partying, drinking Presidentes every night, iPhones and fast money becomes a way of life very easily and it is difficult go back to normal life.[/QUOTE]Yes, you do see a variety of situations. For some, its temporary. For some, single mothers with 3-4 kids, its the only way for a single income to make it. Some get "addicted" to the relatively easy money, earning a month's pay in a few days.
I once met a Dominican woman working in a bordello in Germany. Like many of them, she contracted with an agency to work for a time in Europe. She was not a young kid. She was married, with children. Her objective was to earn enough money to buy a business back home.
In a country with such a low pay scale, money is spent as soon as it is earned. Anyone with ambitions for more and needs to accumulate money in less than a lifetime, has to work in the sex industry or get involved with the drug trade. Honest jobs there barely cover living expenses. A dentist in Puerto Plata for example (a medical professional) earns about 600 US a month. Compare that with most, who barely have a high school education.
You presented me with a challenge to provide a specific example. But your rebuttal to my specific example is based on generalities. I was not talking about most Dominicans. I was talking about one particular woman who lives in the Dominican Republic that is not using prostitution to feed her kids.
You are going to tell me what she does or does not know about her household? Not possible. Do you know what she purchased? No you do not. Were you with us? No you were not. Have you been in her home when she serves her meals? No, you have not. I can answer of the questions that I proposed in the affirmative.
How much more food does she need to buy? How do you know she does not have a freezer? Yes, the electrical supply is not reliable, but what does that have to do with the choices she made when she purchased food during my trip with her? Exactly what is your point anyway? When the electricity goes off food stays cold in both the refrigerator and the freezer unless it is off for an extended period of time. If we are talking about the possibility of food spoilage then you are talking days. Even in the Dominican Republic unless you are talking about a natural disaster of some type the electricity is not off for days at a time. And she is a smart woman (she hangs out with me after all). I'm certain she would make an effort to prepare the food before it got to that point.
What should be done, what can be done and what has to be done are often three completely different situations. Critics talk about what should be done. Men in the arena do what has to be done. The woman in my example is not using prostitution to feed her kids. Mr. GoGo and the others can criticize my personality and lifestyle choices in Sosua Reports all they want. You can debate with me about the specific amount actually needed to feed a child in the Dominican Republic until your fingers get tired of typing. None of that will ever change my opinion that women in the Dominican Republic do not need to be prostitutes to feed their children. They have made a choice.
My thoughts are your friend Mr. GoGo has it right: "you are just talking out of your ass as usual". And if you wish to continue to do what he says you do: "Frannie keeps exposing him as a fool and he still hasn't caught on", well then you are going to have you are going to have to come stronger to the basket than that. Because I have rejected your shot into the stands and the crowd has gone wild!
[QUOTE=Frannie;1890672]The food might last a month or more if it is rice, dried foods, or canned stuff, but that is not the same as saying that they would not need to buy any more food for a month. Fresh meats, fruits, vegetables, milk, bread will not last that long and most Dominicans don't have freezers and the electricity supply is somewhat unreliable, so people don't stock up on perishables.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=JJ341;1890670]There are a lot of prostitutes in the DR. You say it is estimated that 20% of women there are prostitutes. Where does that figure come from? I think it's way way way too high. 1 in 5 women are not prostitutes.[/QUOTE]Mr. JJ341,
You may be right!
Here are the numbers I was able to source from my internet research. Percentage of Population that are women: 49.8. Using this number to estimate the number of women in Sosua: 24,682. Number of women in Sosua working as prostitutes: 1000. Percentage of women working as prostitutes in Sosua: 4%. It is impossible to project even this number into the general female population of the island. But as a amateur sociologist, I can make the following statement with complete confidence: "Mr. E's posts in the General Information section present anecdotal evidence that females under report themselves as prostitutes". ROTFLMAO!
Could you let Frannie know that the lower we push the estimated number of prostitutes in the Dominican Republic, the stronger my argument becomes that a woman does not need to be a prostitute to feed her children? He can pick any number he likes when it comes to the cost of raising a child. Because if poverty was the sole reason women enter prostitution in the Dominican Republic we would expect that number to be around 35 - 40%. That would be in line with the percentage of women living in poverty in the Dominican Republic. Or we could take the female rate of unemployment in the Dominican Republic: 23.4%. Trying to make the argument based purely on economics shows that someone is out of touch. Others have outlined qualitative factors unrelated children's economic well being that have lead women into or keep women in prostitution. Mr. GoGo has indicated that I am the one out of touch. I'll leave it to the reader to figure it out.
Sources:
[URL]http://countrymeters.info/en/Dominican_Republic[/URL]
[URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...nican_Republic[/URL]
[URL]http://www.dominicantoday.com/dr/loc...Sosuas-tourism[/URL]
[URL]http://data.worldbank.org/country/dominican-republic[/URL]
[URL]https://www.quandl.com/collections/dominican-republic/dominican-republic-unemployment[/URL]
Sister of my number one is pregnant. Lives in the country. Has a problem with her baby. Pregnancy has encountered a problem. Water breaks. Baby does not come. Baby has stopped moving. Bad scene. Her sister is not satisfied with the medical advice or care she is receiving in the country. So she comes into the city and arrives where my #1 stays.
Together they seek out medical care for the baby. Recommendation is a cesarean section. The surgical procedure is expensive for her. So using public transportation and on foot they seek out prices from three other clinics. They find a quality clinic with recommendations my #1 is satisfied with. Her sister does not have insurance. The public hospital system is not trying to help her because she is has a pregnancy with complications. Her sister needs money. Her spouse deposits the money in my #1's account and it's off to the bank to collect the money. This has taken up the entire day. They are back in my #1's place and her sister is resting. It's after 8 PM and her sister is insisting that she keeps her commitment go visit me. But my #1 insists on taking a taxi instead of me picking her up in my rather large, expensive "gas guzzling" vehicle.
Now, I've been putting diesel fuel in it since I bought it. I explained that to Mr. GoGo while I drove through a rainstorm that was really hampering visibility on our trip to Boca Chica. Good thing he was riding shotgun on that trip. Hwy 3 runs right past Boca Chica and the Villa Capri. Since I had never left my apartment before we went on our trip, I'm certain I wouldn't have found Boca Chica without his help. LOL! My vehicle allows me to forge shallow rivers formed after heavy rains due to the poor water management infrastructure that creates water hazards on the roads. This often leaves people pushing their cars out of the standing water. My vehicle also handles the rough and ready road conditions that you find in the poorly maintained parts of the city where I roam. Leaky apartment in my barrio on the ocean is where I stay. Talking out my ass again Mr. GoGo? Nah! Got pictures and videos (in focus) to prove it. Wait! I don't need those. You have been in my apartment. You have seen the view. I have explained exactly why and when my apartment leaks and you know it's not "every time it rains". Expensive? Well that depends on your budget. Only used to drive two blocks? My odometer is rolling. Excessive? It wasn't for me. It's worth every peso I paid for it. But I diverge.
After she arrives, she insists on cooking even after I offer to take her out, because she knows my money is low. You know what they say "A fool and his money is soon parted". She cooks a great meal of rice, chicken with a homemade sauce and a salad. All the while acting like a mobile command post for her family who are blowing up her phone and mine in great anticipation of operation "Baby arrival".
We are off to the bedroom where she puts in a "Pyramid scheme" like performance. We are sleeping hard. But when morning arrives, I'm still up early. She sleeps in late. But her phone is blowing up. I wake her up and she learns the baby is here and she's an Aunt once again. She insists on cleaning my ocean view apartment, scrubbing every tile in both of my bathrooms (that have views of downtown Santo Domingo when you are taking your shower), sweeping and mopping the balcony, doing her laundry, and making enough chinola juice to last me a week. She makes lunch for us both and prepares meat for me to cook for myself later that night because she will be spending the night in the clinic with her sister. But everyone receives this sort of treatment from their girls right? It's just that I happen to be one of those suckers who have to overpay because I'm a permanent Sugar Daddy. LOL! After all that we are off to the clinic, in my rather roomy, expensive, "gas guzzling" diesel powered vehicle. We enter the room and it's filled with baby love. I'm shaking hands, kissing and holding the baby. She is really small. I'm speaking my bad Spanish and being misunderstood by everyone. LOL! But I'm having a great time.
My #1 spends the night with her sister helping her take care of the baby. During the next day there is a long procession of family members and friends from the city and county to the clinic to visit her sister and her new baby. They bring meats, fruits and vegetables. The fruits and vegetables they bring from the country of are of higher quality than anything I can consistently buy in my beloved city of Santo Domingo Este. In the afternoon she heads back over to her house, takes a shower and rests for a few hours. She goes back to the clinic. In the evening she hits me in whatsapp to tell me she would like a medium pizza from Papa Johns when I come to visit her sister and her new baby in the clinic. Thirty minutes later she texts and tells me not to buy the pizza.
She needs money tomorrow for her medical school registration. Her sister had some expenses she needed to pay for and she used the last of her money she earned last month from work helping her sister. She would rather for me to help her pay for her medical school registration instead of buying her a pizza because she knows my money is low right now. Here we have another example of the "qualitative difference" that I personally seek out. After I arrive, she has six plantains from the country for me. I've seen plantains sold on the street ranging from five pesos with a price ranging all the way up to 16 pesos in the store. The plantains she gave me are of excellent quality. They were similar to ones I that I purchased on the side of the highway when I returned from Barahona. (Yes, I said Barahona. It's further than two blocks from my house. No, I can't explain it. I guess you just have to ask Mr. GoGo. He made the statement). I can use two to prepare mangu for me. Mangu is one of my favorite Dominican dishes. Add some meat and a vegetable and you have a rather inexpensive meal now don't you?
We are all hungry so everyone wants Pica Pollo. We head down the street from the clinic, which happens to be in the barrio my #1 grew up in. I want some Chow Fan. So my girl orders me some Chow Fan, 5 pieces of chicken and French fries. My cost: 250 pesos. I eat my chow fan in the restaurant along with a piece of chicken. She has a piece of chicken and some fries. After that, we return to the clinic and she smuggles the Pica Pollo into the clinic. Where her cousin, sister and one other visitor share the three pieces of chicken and fries that are left. And while they are doing that they are expressing concern that I bought the food but I am not eating. My number #1 explains that I ate in the restaurant and I also let them know I am fine. When they are done it looks piranhas have been in that to go box. There is nothing but bones left.
When you motherfuckers residing in the private club of the Sosua Reports Forum are done being critics and are instead interested in educating yourself on the realities of real women instead of remaining in your fantasy world with prostitutes; after you are done debating the actual number of pesos it takes to raise a child living here; I suggest you head on over to Youtube and search for the video "Lamado A La Patria".
This video was shot in the barrio where my #1 spends most of her time when she is not working, going to medical school, studying with her classmates or taking care of family and friends. It is the barrio of her Aunt. Look at those images motherfuckers! Better yet, listen to what they are saying. The images and lyrics of this video represent a most inconvenient truth to the Sexual Tourists and critics. These are the images I see weekly in person. After viewing them you tell me the children in that video are having 3000 pesos or more spent on them each month or receiving 2000 pesos a month for school lunches alone. I'm out of touch with reality? Hardly!
The children you see in that video are not the children of prostitutes earning 1500 2000 pesos a fuck. That was the actual point of my original post that was reposted from my user blog to the main forum of the Sousa Reports section. Where is Tomjackin when you need him? My point remains that prostitutes in the Dominican Republic make a choice. A choice the majority of women on this island do not make. If the parties involved feel like they are doing social work instead of doing business when they are together. I'm fine with that. I am not making a moral judgement against either party. But don't tell me they need to do it for their children.
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;1891193]
Could you let Frannie know that the lower we push the estimated number of prostitutes in the Dominican Republic, the stronger my argument becomes that a woman does not need to be a prostitute to feed her children? He can pick any number he likes when it comes to the cost of raising a child. Because if poverty was the sole reason women enter prostitution in the Dominican Republic we would expect that number to be around 35 - 40%. [/QUOTE]Your whole concept is way off beam. We are not just talking about all Dominican women, but about (mostly) single mothers who do not have college educations. Now in the US only a very small number of such women prostitute themselves, but on the other hand they can usually earn at least $10 per hour in unskilled jobs, and they have access to food stamps (SNAP), subsidized or capped rentals via HUD, Medicaid, CHIP free school breakfasts and lunches, free schools, free school buses, Social Security disability (in some cases), and some other programs. She can probably also earn $40 for 2 hours work off the books cleaning someone's house. Now what is the Dominican equivalent to food stamps? Are groceries and formulas cheaper in the DR than in the US? How much can she earn for cleaning someone's house in the DR?
Here is an example. I know a pleasant young Haitian woman (attractive). She lives with her family in Montellano. She is a legal resident of the DR. She is married, but her husband is in Haiti. She is not a hooker. She is hard working and intelligent and honest and likes to go to school and do courses. I have known her for about 5 years. She worked for me for about 2 years. She got 5000 pesos from me every 2 weeks, plus transportation fare, plus free meals on the job.
After I left the DR she was left jobless. She now has a new job working 6 days a week in a clothing store in Sosua as a sales assistant. After she pays 100 pesos a day for transportation to and from Montellano plus pays for her daily lunches she has 1500 pesos per two weeks left over for herself (and to feed a child, but she doesn't have a child) or to give to her mother.
So that is just an example of the economics of life for a young women in unskilled work. Now give me your example of someone you know and how much they earn, how much it costs them to get to work, and so on.
The other point I take issue with you on is the question of how often women accept money for sex. You are kind of assuming that women will have several clients per day for most of the days in the month, , make a lot of money, and spend most of it on luxuries, but while that might be the case for some hard core pros fpr a limited time in their short careers, I don't believe it is the case with the majority of part timers who just get a paying client or boyfriend when they can, or when they really need extra cash to pay bills or something.
Incidentally another Haitian woman who also worked for me who was older, uglier, fatter, and stupider, is currently living in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil. When I asked how she got over there, of course the answer was that she had a boyfriend who took her. So yes, Dominican and Haitian chicas are ingenious and find ways to travel all over the world, but it is rarely without financial help from someone else.
In my user blog, I've already provided three examples of women living in the DR without being prostitutes. Two of my examples have children. Now you have provided the fourth. All of the examples provided between the two of us are anecdotal and therefore cannot be projected through any population of women living here (single mothers, uneducated, unskilled or otherwise). Do you have some academic research to show me that indicates a woman needs to be a prostitute to feed her children or survive in the Dominican Republic? No, you don't. Because if you did you would have quoted it by now.
My point is and will remain that a woman does not need to be a prostitute to feed her children or survive in the Dominican Republic.
[QUOTE=Frannie;1891548]Here is an example. I know a pleasant young Haitian woman (attractive). She lives with her family in Montellano. She is a legal resident of the DR. She is married, but her husband is in Haiti. She is not a hooker. She got 5000 pesos from me every 2 weeks, plus transportation fare, plus free meals on the job. She now has a new job working 6 days a week in a clothing store in Sosua as a sales assistant. After she pays 100 pesos a day for transportation to and from Montellano plus pays for her daily lunches she has 1500 pesos per two weeks left over for herself (and to feed a child, but she doesn't have a child) or to give to her mother.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;1891602]My point is and will remain that a woman does not need to be a prostitute to feed her children or survive in the Dominican Republic.[/QUOTE]Agreed. She just needs to find herself a big boss sexpat, preferably one with an SUV that can ford streams and rivers, to pay her a monthly stipend and for her medical school registration, in exchange for sexual favors and janitorial service on an ocean view apartment that may or may not leak during rain. Because this sugar baby / sugar daddy relationship is definitely NOT prostitution.
Of course I do!
[QUOTE=Parkinsons;1891872]Because this sugar baby / sugar daddy relationship is definitely NOT prostitution.[/QUOTE]Mr. Parkinsons, Let me kick a little knowledge into your eye holes.
Prostitution: the business or practice of engaging in sexual relations in exchange for payment or some other benefit.
Sugar Baby: A female or male who is financially pampered / cared for by a sugar daddy or sugar mama in exchange for companionship (I. E. Sexual favors).
Here is some additional information for you:
"In light of recent events, we thought it might be time for a refresher course in the definitions of Sugar. Many are quick to label the Sugar lifestyle choice as prostitution, but there are many differences between this lifestyle and the oldest profession. High-end or not, a call girl is not an interchangeable word for a Sugar Baby. Here are four reasons why.
1. A Relationship vs A Transaction.
A prostitute and a client have a transaction relationship. They meet, exchange funds, and participate in some sort of physical act and part ways. Typically, this is a one time occurrence. A job. There is no relationship, and no possibility for a relationship. And that is the key difference really: Relationship. Sugar Babies and Sugar Daddies have on-going relationships, not transactions. More often than not, a Sugar relationship will resemble that of a girlfriend-boyfriend relationship. There are real connections and real possibilities at romance, something that is not in the realm of possibility with an escort or prostitute. Just because a relationship doesn't follow the traditional rules of courtship, doesn't mean it isn't valid. It also doesn't mean it's illegal.
2. Being a Sugar Baby vs being a Prostitute.
Sugar is a lifestyle choice, not a profession. A sugar baby is a woman who wants to date financially secure men who can provide her with the lifestyle she desires. She's selective about who she dates; a prostitute isn't picky about who she takes on as a client. The risks involved with prostitution are countless, and include exposure to crime, abuse, sexually transmitted diseases and theft of service. Many prostitutes are also subject to physical and emotional abuse, especially when involved with a pimp. And in Sugar, sex is never a requirement, only an aspiration.
3. Dating a Sugar Baby vs ordering a prostitute.
A Sugar Daddy is generous, and wants to see their partner succeed. When two people are involved in a mutually beneficial relationship, they respect and value one another's time. Sugar relationships can turn into long term serious relationships. Prostitutes are paid to perform a service, while Sugar Babies sometimes receive funds as an added benefit of dating a generous man. A john doesn't want a hooker to stick around, and a Sugar Daddy doesn't want his Sugar Baby to leave. While an escort might have a sordid sexual history, a Sugar relationship is often monogamous.
4. Quality vs Quantity.
Most Sugar Babies aren't solely involved in the sugar world. Sugar Babies are also teachers, college students, actresses, and business professionals. They seek successful mentors that can advance their career, not a temporary fix. Sugar Babies can be present in the lives of Sugar Daddies because they have long-term professional goals, and interesting personalities to keep everyone intrigued. Prostitutes on the other hand, use their trade as a source of income it's a last resort for many women who are pressed for money. They aren't looking for mentors or anyone with a specific level of expertise. You may meet hundreds of prostitutes before finding anyone to fulfill your emotional needs. Prostitutes are hired to role play for the evening they'll be whomever you want them to be, but they won't necessarily be themselves. She treats you like a job, not like a man".
Source: [URL]http://blog.seekingarrangement.com/2014/07/14/four-differences-between-sugar-prostitution/[/URL].
Now, If you have read what I have written before then you know I don't agree. In case you haven't seen my previous work:
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;1885441]You pretty much hit this nail right on the head. To say it's something else is simply self-rationalization. We know the ability of individuals to self rationalize is infinite. I think you are dealing with the difference of what society approves as opposed as what is legal. Anecdotal evidence has been presented on this board that prostitution is legal in the Dominican Republic but it is not approved. And it's unlikely to ever be approved outside of the circles that engage in it.
Chicks exchange sex for money, goods and services all the time for a ST, TLN, week, month, year, or lifetime. Societal approval is provided for the length of time and type of relationship. Prostitution is legally allowed within societies where it tends to facilitate and assist the society. And it is suppressed in societies where it perceived to be disruptive to society.
It is not surprising to me that chicks do not want to admit in engaging in an activity not approved within their society. But you are dead on with your definition.[/QUOTE]What you fail to understand is that this is the thread UTR's, Non-Pros (NP) and Sugar Babies (SB). Read through all of my posts and tell me where I have said the Sugar Baby / Sugar Daddy relationship is not prostitution. My contention has always been that I have found there is a "qualitative difference" between prostitutes working the streets of Sosua and Boca Chica and UTR's, Non-Pros (NP) and Sugar Babies (SB) I have encountered throughout the Dominican Republic.
Now from your previous responses to my posts I see that you like to debate and be critical. Go ahead and do that my man. You can debate what prostitution is until your fingers get tired of hitting the keyboard. I'm not interested in that. If you desire to engage in an intellectual discussion of definition of prostitution, knock yourself the fuck out. I prefer to leave such things as an exercise for the reader. Be a man in the arena! Don't be a critic, because then you don't count.
Let Mr. GoGo levitate. Let Mr. Frannie pontificate. Both can notate, meditate ruminate, debate, orate and evaluate all the different reasons they have to berate. Unfortunately for them it amounts to nothing more than a mental attempt to masturbate, self-fellate and placate. That's what critics do. Why concentrate on the critics as they corroborate to misevaluate? As far as I'm concerned they can fornicate or defecate. It makes no difference to me. I prefer to disseminate knowledge that educates. So that others can imitate and operate in a way that creates a life that is far from boilerplate.
A little word play for you motherfuckers, because things were getting a little too serious up in here. LOL!
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;1891996] Let Mr. GoGo levitate. Let Mr. Frannie pontificate. Both can notate, meditate ruminate, debate, orate and evaluate all the different reasons they have to berate. Unfortunately for them it amounts to nothing more than a mental attempt to masturbate, self-fellate and placate. That's what critics do. Why concentrate on the critics as they corroborate to misevaluate? As far as I'm concerned they can fornicate or defecate. It makes no difference to me. I prefer to disseminate knowledge that educates.[/QUOTE]I love this! Are you sure you were not a student of Prof. Henry Higgins in your last incarnation, I mean, in GBS's mind, that is?
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;1891996]Of course I do!
Mr. Parkinsons, Let me kick a little knowledge into your eye holes.
Prostitution: the business or practice of engaging in sexual relations in exchange for payment or some other benefit.
Sugar Baby: A female or male who is financially pampered / cared for by a sugar daddy or sugar mama in exchange for companionship (I. E. Sexual favors).
Here is some additional information for you:
"In light of recent events, we thought it might be time for a refresher course in the definitions of Sugar. Many are quick to label the Sugar lifestyle choice as prostitution, but there are many differences between this lifestyle and the oldest profession. High-end or not, a call girl is not an interchangeable word for a Sugar Baby. Here are four reasons why.
1. A Relationship vs A Transaction.
A prostitute and a client have a transaction relationship. They meet, exchange funds, and participate in some sort of physical act and part ways. Typically, this is a one time occurrence. A job. There is no relationship, and no possibility for a relationship. And that is the key difference really: Relationship. Sugar Babies and Sugar Daddies have on-going relationships, not transactions. More often than not, a Sugar relationship will resemble that of a girlfriend-boyfriend relationship. There are real connections and real possibilities at romance, something that is not in the realm of possibility with an escort or prostitute. Just because a relationship doesn't follow the traditional rules of courtship, doesn't mean it isn't valid. It also doesn't mean it's illegal.
2. Being a Sugar Baby vs being a Prostitute.
Sugar is a lifestyle choice, not a profession. A sugar baby is a woman who wants to date financially secure men who can provide her with the lifestyle she desires. She's selective about who she dates; a prostitute isn't picky about who she takes on as a client. The risks involved with prostitution are countless, and include exposure to crime, abuse, sexually transmitted diseases and theft of service. Many prostitutes are also subject to physical and emotional abuse, especially when involved with a pimp. And in Sugar, sex is never a requirement, only an aspiration.
3. Dating a Sugar Baby vs ordering a prostitute.
A Sugar Daddy is generous, and wants to see their partner succeed. When two people are involved in a mutually beneficial relationship, they respect and value one another's time. Sugar relationships can turn into long term serious relationships. Prostitutes are paid to perform a service, while Sugar Babies sometimes receive funds as an added benefit of dating a generous man. A john doesn't want a hooker to stick around, and a Sugar Daddy doesn't want his Sugar Baby to leave. While an escort might have a sordid sexual history, a Sugar relationship is often monogamous.
4. Quality vs Quantity.
Most Sugar Babies aren't solely involved in the sugar world. Sugar Babies are also teachers, college students, actresses, and business professionals. They seek successful mentors that can advance their career, not a temporary fix. Sugar Babies can be present in the lives of Sugar Daddies because they have long-term professional goals, and interesting personalities to keep everyone intrigued. Prostitutes on the other hand, use their trade as a source of income it's a last resort for many women who are pressed for money. They aren't looking for mentors or anyone with a specific level of expertise. You may meet hundreds of prostitutes before finding anyone to fulfill your emotional needs. Prostitutes are hired to role play for the evening they'll be whomever you want them to be, but they won't necessarily be themselves. She treats you like a job, not like a man".
Source: [URL]http://blog.seekingarrangement.com/2014/07/14/four-differences-between-sugar-prostitution/[/URL].
Now, If you have read what I have written before then you know I don't agree. In case you haven't seen my previous work:
What you fail to understand is that this is the thread UTR's, Non-Pros (NP) and Sugar Babies (SB). Read through all of my posts and tell me where I have said the Sugar Baby / Sugar Daddy relationship is not prostitution. My contention has always been that I have found there is a "qualitative difference" between prostitutes working the streets of Sosua and Boca Chica and UTR's, Non-Pros (NP) and Sugar Babies (SB) I have encountered throughout the Dominican Republic.
Now from your previous responses to my posts I see that you like to debate and be critical. Go ahead and do that my man. You can debate what prostitution is until your fingers get tired of hitting the keyboard. I'm not interested in that. If you desire to engage in an intellectual discussion of definition of prostitution, knock yourself the fuck out. I prefer to leave such things as an exercise for the reader. Be a man in the arena! Don't be a critic, because then you don't count.
Let Mr. GoGo levitate. Let Mr. Frannie pontificate. Both can notate, meditate ruminate, debate, orate and evaluate all the different reasons they have to berate. Unfortunately for them it amounts to nothing more than a mental attempt to masturbate, self-fellate and placate. That's what critics do. Why concentrate on the critics as they corroborate to misevaluate? As far as I'm concerned they can fornicate or defecate. It makes no difference to me. I prefer to disseminate knowledge that educates. So that others can imitate and operate in a way that creates a life that is far from boilerplate.
A little word play for you motherfuckers, because things were getting a little too serious up in here. LOL![/QUOTE]From what I can make out from the ejaculations you expect us to gobble down, a Sugar Daddy is about the same thing as a Western Union novio?
Or rather Sugar Daddy is a term used on certain prostitution Web sites in the hope of avoiding legal sanctions and of persuading some gullible young women to prostitute themselves while fooling themselves into thinking they are not. Having had a bit of a browse of the Web site you link to, I find the Western Union novio thing in the DR infinitely honester and more likely to give satisfaction to both sides.
[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;1892191]I love this! Are you sure you were not a student of Prof. Henry Higgins in your last incarnation, I mean, in GBS's mind, that is?[/QUOTE]Other than having an eye for the Fair Ladies, I see no point of resemblance.
I've been in this game for years. It made me an animal. There's rules to this shit. I wrote me a manual. A step-by-step booklet for you to get your two balls drained while many pesos remain.
Rule numero uno: Never let a chica know how much dough you hold cause you know. The chicas be use pussy against thee but don't you be a sugar daddy like me.
Number two: Never let them know you next move. Don't you know mongers move in complete silence without violence. Take it from your highness. Arrive unannounced and always much new pussy you'll pounce.
Number three: never trust what chica may say. She will lie every day to get the pesos in play. She be making stuff up to get that fast buck. You need to set the tool straight and let her know what's up.
Number four: know you heard this before. Never get sprung just because you cum.
Number five: never let chica rest where you rest at. I don't care if the chica wants to pout; tell her out!
Number six: chica want god damn credit, dead it. You think a chica be paying you back, shit forget it.
Seven: this rule is so underrated, Keep your chica and your personal business completely separated. Chicas and money don't mix. Ignore this. Find yourself broker than shit.
Number eight: never keep big money on you. Those chicas fucking you will steal your stuff too.
Number nine: should been number one to me. Two chicas you don't know will bring you certain whoa. Threesome in your room is always a no go. Turn head for a minute you be left with nothing in it.
Number ten: A strong word called compassion. Strictly for freshmen, not for veterans. If a chica has a problem just say "hell no". She's only there to suck and fuck, rain, sleet, hail, snow.
Follow these rules you have plenty of pussy to bang up. If not, you might just have a bad wake up.
I'm out!
[QUOTE=Frannie;1892223]Other than having an eye for the Fair Ladies, I see no point of resemblance.[/QUOTE]Jajaja, that was a good word play but then I think of Pygmalion rather than Rex Harrison!
[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;1892653]Jajaja, that was a good word play but then I think of Pygmalion rather than Rex Harrison![/QUOTE]Well, yes, but My Fair Lady was a successful movie that won the Oscars for Best Film, Best Actor, and Best Director in 1964. Audrey Hepburn probably missed out on a shot at another Oscar due the the slight controversy over Julie Andrews not getting the part after starring in the stage version on Broadway. However Andrews got the consolation prize of the lead role in Mary Poppins in the same year and did win the Oscar for Best Actress for that year. So that is where most people will know about Professor Higgins from.
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;1892373]I've been in this game for years. It made me an animal. There's rules to this shit. I wrote me a manual. A step-by-step booklet for you to get your two balls drained while many pesos remain.
Rule numero uno: Never let a chica know how much dough you hold cause you know. The chicas be use pussy against thee but don't you be a sugar daddy like me.
Number two: Never let them know you next move. Don't you know mongers move in complete silence without violence. Take it from your highness. Arrive unannounced and always much new pussy you'll pounce.
Number three: never trust what chica may say. She will lie every day to get the pesos in play. She be making stuff up to get that fast buck. You need to set the tool straight and let her know what's up.
Number four: know you heard this before. Never get sprung just because you cum.
Number five: never let chica rest where you rest at. I don't care if the chica wants to pout; tell her out!
Number six: chica want god damn credit, dead it. You think a chica be paying you back, shit forget it.
Seven: this rule is so underrated, Keep your chica and your personal business completely separated. Chicas and money don't mix. Ignore this. Find yourself broker than shit.
Number eight: never keep big money on you. Those chicas fucking you will steal your stuff too.
Number nine: should been number one to me. Two chicas you don't know will bring you certain whoa. Threesome in your room is always a no go. Turn head for a minute you be left with nothing in it.
Number ten: A strong word called compassion. Strictly for freshmen, not for veterans. If a chica has a problem just say "hell no". She's only there to suck and fuck, rain, sleet, hail, snow.
Follow these rules you have plenty of pussy to bang up. If not, you might just have a bad wake up.
I'm out![/QUOTE]Now this is a good one.
[QUOTE=Frannie;1892714] So that is where most people will know about Professor Higgins from.[/QUOTE]You are right. Curiously, I read the book long before I got into the theater, as I do not like musicals and found the book (like all others of GBS) to be way superior not to speak of GBS' forwards and of course, his language and wit. So Audrey Hepburn notwithstanding, it is Pygmalion, for the undersigned.
And I did think Subcommander had a nice way with his wordplay.
Latest reports show that 4.5 million Dominicans or 45.7% of the population are borderline poor. The report says that 17.1% already live in poverty and 8. 8% in extreme poverty. The UNDP defines poverty as living on an income of between US $4 and US $10 a day. The 2015 report is based on 2014 data. Gentlemen, (using the term very loosely) that is between 184 and 459 pesos a day. Which translates to 5,520 to 13,770 pesos a month. Going back to the numbers from one of my earlier original posts:
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;1891193]Because if poverty was the sole reason women enter prostitution in the Dominican Republic we would expect that number to be around 35 - 40%. That would be in line with the percentage of women living in poverty in the Dominican Republic. Or we could take the female rate of unemployment in the Dominican Republic: 23.4%. Trying to make the argument based purely on economics shows that someone is out of touch. Others have outlined qualitative factors unrelated children's economic well being that have lead women into or keep women in prostitution.[/QUOTE]And what Mr. Franne has to say:
[QUOTE=Frannie;1891548]The other point I take issue with you on is the question of how often women accept money for sex. You are kind of assuming that women will have several clients per day for most of the days in the month, ,make a lot of money, and spend most of it on luxuries, but while that might be the case for some hard core pros fpr a limited time in their short careers, I don't believe it is the case with the majority of part timers who just get a paying client or boyfriend when they can, or when they really need extra cash to pay bills or something.[/QUOTE]You take issue with me based on what knowledge? Because you have run prostitutes and know how often they are fucking?
A prostitute has to fuck 10 times (at 1500 pesos / fuck) before she crosses the "borderline poor" income line out of 13,770 pesos a month. And if she has a child then she would have to double that number to bring both her child and her over that line. I have presented this most inconvenient truth. It's time for you and all my other critics to explain how women around the 5,520 peso range are living and feeding their children. Do you have any suggestions about how they do it? Are they relying on Sexual Tourists flying dick in one hand and pesos in the other to assist mothers to feed the poor starving children of the Dominican Republic?
In addition you write:
[QUOTE=Frannie;1891548]Your whole concept is way off beam.
Here is an example. I know a pleasant young Haitian woman (attractive). She lives with her family in Montellano. She is a legal resident of the DR. She is married, but her husband is in Haiti. She is not a hooker. She is hard working and intelligent and honest and likes to go to school and do courses. I have known her for about 5 years. She worked for me for about 2 years. She got 5000 pesos from me every 2 weeks, plus transportation fare, plus free meals on the job.[/QUOTE]Using your example, if this employee worked 40 hours a week she made 62.5 pesos an hour. That means for two years you paid her an income left her in the "borderline poor" category. Yes, it was on the upper end of the range but still you were paying wages that left this hard working and intelligent, honest, university course attending young woman "borderline poor"!
Now if we take the market rate of 1500 pesos for a short time and you are willing to stipulate that a short time is 2 hours. If you hire prostitutes at that rate you are paying them 700 pesos an hour. That means you are paying the woman who licks your ass over ten times more an hour than the woman that cleaned up after your ass! Although, I'll stipulate they are both equally unpleasant tasks. How do you justify that situation which is totally within your control because as the employer you set the rate of pay in both cases? Now I don't know what the lady did for you (or the prostitutes for that matter). Nor am I am in the position to state the value of the additional compensation you provided through transportation and meals. But even if you add 2000 more pesos per month that still leaves her in the "borderline poor" category.
Are you going to continue to take issue with me saying prostitutes do not make more money than the "borderline poor"?
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;1902482]
In addition you write:
Using your example, if this employee worked 40 hours a week she made 62.5 pesos an hour. That means for two years you paid her an income left her in the "borderline poor" category. Yes, it was on the upper end of the range but still you were paying wages that left this hard working and intelligent, honest, university course attending young woman "borderline poor"!
Now if we take the market rate of 1500 pesos for a short time and you are willing to stipulate that a short time is 2 hours. If you hire prostitutes at that rate you are paying them 700 pesos an hour. That means you are paying the woman who licks your ass over ten times more an hour than the woman that cleaned up after your ass! Although, I'll stipulate they are both equally unpleasant tasks. How do you justify that situation which is totally within your control because as the employer you set the rate of pay in both cases? Now I don't know what the lady did for you (or the prostitutes for that matter). Nor am I am in the position to state the value of the additional compensation you provided through transportation and meals. But even if you add 2000 more pesos per month that still leaves her in the "borderline poor" category.
Are you going to continue to take issue with me saying prostitutes do not make more money than the "borderline poor"?[/QUOTE]She did not work anywhere close to 40 hours per week for me, so all your calculations are in vain. She loved working for me. However I am not going to explain why, because that is private business.
[QUOTE]Nor am I am in the position to state the value of the additional compensation you provided through transportation and meals.[/QUOTE]About 100 pesos per day for transportation, and you know perfectly well how much food costs in the DR and how much it costs to feed one more person on regular household meals.
Anyway, your arguments are about what constitutes poverty are meaningless without context. If she lived with her parents and sisters, which she did, and had no rent or utility bills to pay other than her cell phone, and ate communally with her family, and had no children, there is no comparison for the cost of living for a single mother who lives away from her family.
What I did say was that when she was no longer able to work for me because I no longer maintained a residence in the DR, the kind of job that she was able to get barely paid for her fares to and from work and her lunches, so she was much worse off. Although she never has and probably never will engage in prostitution, other members of her family have done so, and one married and moved to Europe, one can easily see that many young women will turn to casual prostitution for quick money.
Actually, you have reminded me of the innocent, religious young virgin I met several years ago in Sosua, who was saving herself for her husband, which she did, and when she turned 21 she married. I often fantasized about sex with her, but I never thought it would happen. Less than a year later she had sex with me a few times, so that she could get the money for a new kitchen stove (and also experience oral sex for the first time). Then I didn't see her for a few years until I bumped into her in the street distributing religious tracts to passers-by. She had split from her husband and was living a celibate life. She had not experienced oral sex since, so I took her over to my place and worked her over again for old times sake, although she had added some poundage in the meantime, and she was super orgasmic. She used the donation to buy a new dress.
I might have continued the relationship, except that I had just gotten involved with someone else whom I am still with 5 years later.
Yes, of course some prostitutes make a lot of money, but most don't because they don't have a high volume of clients and their careers in prostitution are short. But there are numerous part times who will accept donations if you catch them at the right time and in the right mood. This is part of the system by which wealth in the DR, which is largely held by older men, is transferred to young families.
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;1892373]I've been in this game for years. It made me an animal. There's rules to this shit. I wrote me a manual. A step-by-step booklet for you to get your two balls drained while many pesos remain.
Rule numero uno: Never let a chica know how much dough you hold cause you know. The chicas be use pussy against thee but don't you be a sugar daddy like me.
Number two: Never let them know you next move. Don't you know mongers move in complete silence without violence. Take it from your highness. Arrive unannounced and always much new pussy you'll pounce.
Number three: never trust what chica may say. She will lie every day to get the pesos in play. She be making stuff up to get that fast buck. You need to set the tool straight and let her know what's up.
Number four: know you heard this before. Never get sprung just because you cum.
Number five: never let chica rest where you rest at. I don't care if the chica wants to pout; tell her out!
Number six: chica want god damn credit, dead it. You think a chica be paying you back, shit forget it.
Seven: this rule is so underrated, Keep your chica and your personal business completely separated. Chicas and money don't mix. Ignore this. Find yourself broker than shit.
Number eight: never keep big money on you. Those chicas fucking you will steal your stuff too.
Number nine: should been number one to me. Two chicas you don't know will bring you certain whoa. Threesome in your room is always a no go. Turn head for a minute you be left with nothing in it.
Number ten: A strong word called compassion. Strictly for freshmen, not for veterans. If a chica has a problem just say "hell no". She's only there to suck and fuck, rain, sleet, hail, snow.
Follow these rules you have plenty of pussy to bang up. If not, you might just have a bad wake up.
I'm out![/QUOTE]Nice play on Biggie's [b]Ten Crack Commandments[/b], lol :-D
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYb_8MM1tGQ[/URL]
[QUOTE=Frannie;1902709]Anyway, your arguments are about what constitutes poverty are meaningless without context. Yes, of course some prostitutes make a lot of money, but most don't because they don't have a high volume of clients and their careers in prostitution are short. But there are numerous part times who will accept donations if you catch them at the right time and in the right mood. This is part of the system by which wealth in the DR, which is largely held by older men, is transferred to young families.[/QUOTE]Mr. Frannie,
What is your basis for making the above statement?
Nothing in your statement contains a single hard fact. You have failed to present any information other than your personal opinions, along with your personal suppositions about poverty, the income received by prostitutes and the transference of wealth in the Dominican Republic. Who owns the wealth in the US? The wealthiest 160,000 families own as much wealth as the poorest 145 million families, and that wealth is about 10 times as unequal as income. Care to guess the age and racial composition of the patriarchs of those families? But I digress!
Originally you took issue with my statement of how much it costs to raise a child. Since you feel the need to put things into context, remember that I was illustrating that the majority of women manage to raise their children without becoming prostitutes. I rejected the idea that prostitutes are just trying to get by and feed their children. I presented both anecdotal evidence and statistical facts to support my argument. I have shown that even though there is a high rate of poverty in the Dominican Republic. The majority of women do not resort to prostitution to make it economically. Furthermore, I showed how a prostitute does not need to fuck that much (10 fucks can be acheved in one weekend) to bring herself out of the borderline poor category. I have provided you with the context. You cannot simply declare them to be meaningless because you don't like what I've written. Ignoring the facts doesn't change them.
Your post contained some interesting stories. I found them to be entertaining.
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;1903487]
Originally you took issue with my statement of how much it costs to raise a child. Since you feel the need to put things into context, remember that I was illustrating that the majority of women manage to raise their children without becoming prostitutes. I rejected the idea that prostitutes are just trying to get by and feed their children. I presented both anecdotal evidence and statistical facts to support my argument. I have shown that even though there is a high rate of poverty in the Dominican Republic. The majority of women do not resort to prostitution to make it economically. Furthermore, I showed how a prostitute does not need to fuck that much (10 fucks can be acheved in one weekend) to bring herself out of the borderline poor category. I have provided you with the context. You cannot simply declare them to be meaningless because you don't like what I've written. Ignoring the facts doesn't change them.
Your post contained some interesting stories. I found them to be entertaining.[/QUOTE]It may be true that the majority of (single) women in the DR get by without selling sex, but also true that the main reason those who sell sex do so is to get by financially.
I had a friend several years ago who ran a nightclub where they had 20-odd girls living on site who were taken out by men for a 500 peso salida. He kept an Excel spreadsheet that he showed me several times of the salida earnings for the population of girls. It was a bell curve thing. There were a few girls who got taken out pretty much every day they worked, but the majority were hardly ever called upon, and some not at all. I am pretty sure that is the same in any area where there is prostitution in the DR, so that is why I doubt that it is easy for most women to get sex with 10 tourists in a weekend. Also, based on conversations and relationships with some other women I have known, and their friends, I find this to be doubtful. I have also spoken to women who work in the massage parlors, and they say that most days they don't make any money at all. For them a day in which they get two paying customers is a godsend.
[QUOTE=Frannie;1903665]It may be true that the majority of (single) women in the DR get by without selling sex, but also true that the main reason those who sell sex do so is to get by financially..[/QUOTE]Based on the anecdotal evidence you presented this remains simply your opinion.
Anecdotal: based on personal observation, case study reports, or random investigations rather than systematic scientific evaluation.
Once again you choose to take a series of stories based on personal observations, case study reports and random investigations rather than using any systematic scientific evaluation, and instead simply stating that this is your opinion you present the information as if they are the actual facts in all of the situations involving prostitution in the Dominican Republic. You cannot use those anecdotal stories to make a statement that covers all situations involving prostitution in Dominican Republic. It may be true that, in the cases you presented, the women involved in prostitution within the Dominican Republic were not making much money. But it's still not possible for you to state with systematic scientific evaluation that this is the case for "any area in which there is prostitution in the DR".
In your stories you did not even detail the city in which the "nightclub" and massage parlor operations were located. Are you taking the position that there is no difference in demographics, per capita income, or market demand for prostitution across all of the cities and towns located in the Dominican Republic? Furthermore, the idea that sex is being sold mainly to get by financially is once again simply your opinion that you have chosen to present as a statement of fact for 100% of the women who have entered prostitution. Yet, using your own example:
[QUOTE=Frannie;1902709]Less than a year later she had sex with me a few times, so that she could get the money for a new kitchen stove. She had not experienced oral sex since, so I took her over to my place and worked her over again for old times sake, although she had added some poundage in the meantime, and she was super orgasmic. She used the donation to buy a new dress.[/QUOTE]She used the money to buy a new kitchen stove and for buying a new dress. I didn't see a woman in that story that could not feed her children or that was going to starve. Yet, you and other employers pay hourly wages that leave women in the "borderline poor" category while continuing to pay prostitutes hourly wages that are well above that standard.
You are entitled to your opinion that women who enter prostitution do not make a lot of money at it. But being a prostitute is one of those economic activities where you get paid like being a pilot. A pilot only gets paid when the engines are running. A prostitute is only gets paid when one of her holes is being penetrated. But the hourly rate of pay received in both cases exceed the average in both cases.
[QUOTE=Frannie;1903665]It may be true that the majority of (single) women in the DR get by without selling sex, but also true that the main reason those who sell sex do so is to get by financially.
I had a friend several years ago who ran a nightclub where they had 20-odd girls living on site who were taken out by men for a 500 peso salida. He kept an Excel spreadsheet that he showed me several times of the salida earnings for the population of girls. It was a bell curve thing. There were a few girls who got taken out pretty much every day they worked, but the majority were hardly ever called upon, and some not at all. I am pretty sure that is the same in any area where there is prostitution in the DR, so that is why I doubt that it is easy for most women to get sex with 10 tourists in a weekend. Also, based on conversations and relationships with some other women I have known, and their friends, I find this to be doubtful. I have also spoken to women who work in the massage parlors, and they say that most days they don't make any money at all. For them a day in which they get two paying customers is a godsend.[/QUOTE]Sex work is not a regular job, with a fixed income. It is more like fishing. There are productive periods, and long dry spells. Even for the most attractive chica, there may be periods when clients are plentiful, and other periods, when there are none. But even during the dry spells, their overhead / expenses (local accommodations, food, etc) remain.
[QUOTE=Yanqui69;1903730]Sex work is not a regular job, with a fixed income. It is more like fishing. There are productive periods, and long dry spells. Even for the most attractive chica, there may be periods when clients are plentiful, and other periods, when there are none. But even during the dry spells, their overhead / expenses (local accommodations, food, etc) remain.[/QUOTE]And besides that, how many sex workers ANYWHERE do you really see living large? Every now and then a Heidy Fleiss or somebody will come along, but your average, everyday, run of the mill hooker ain't coming down in a drop top Benz or pulling up to a mansion. Most of them are doing it for just bread and meat.
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;1903707]Based on the anecdotal evidence you presented this remains simply your opinion.
Anecdotal: based on personal observation, case study reports, or random investigations rather than systematic scientific evaluation.
Once again you choose to take a series of stories based on personal observations, case study reports and random investigations rather than using any systematic scientific evaluation, and instead simply stating that this is your opinion you present the information as if they are the actual facts in all of the situations involving prostitution in the Dominican Republic. You cannot use those anecdotal stories to make a statement that covers all situations involving prostitution in Dominican Republic. It may be true that, in the cases you presented, the women involved in prostitution within the Dominican Republic were not making much money. But it's still not possible for you to state with systematic scientific evaluation that this is the case for "any area in which there is prostitution in the DR".
In your stories you did not even detail the city in which the "nightclub" and massage parlor operations were located. Are you taking the position that there is no difference in demographics, per capita income, or market demand for prostitution across all of the cities and towns located in the Dominican Republic? Furthermore, the idea that sex is being sold mainly to get by financially is once again simply your opinion that you have chosen to present as a statement of fact for 100% of the women who have entered prostitution. Yet, using your own example:
She used the money to buy a new kitchen stove and for buying a new dress. I didn't see a woman in that story that could not feed her children or that was going to starve. Yet, you and other employers pay hourly wages that leave women in the "borderline poor" category while continuing to pay prostitutes hourly wages that are well above that standard.
You are entitled to your opinion that women who enter prostitution do not make a lot of money at it. But being a prostitute is one of those economic activities where you get paid like being a pilot. A pilot only gets paid when the engines are running. A prostitute is only gets paid when one of her holes is being penetrated. But the hourly rate of pay received in both cases exceed the average in both cases.[/QUOTE]You are just using a lot of high-flown academic terminology to cover up the fact that you have no special information. Of course I do not name the city or club that was run by my friend, because in the current climate of expulsions of foreign club operators from the DR, I don't want to publish information that would identify individuals and their families to possible adverse consequences.
Hower, it is my hypothesis, first of all, that more money is spent on prostitution in the North coast stretch from Puerto Plata to Cabarete than in other parts of the DR, possibly excluding Santiago and Santo Domingo, where the clientele seems to be mainly Dominican. So when I speak of my knowledge of the amount that hookers are earning on the North coast, I am assuming that there are not other areas where they are making considerably more money and finding more customers, otherwise why do so many chicas travel from places like Bonao, La Vega, Santiago, and even Santo Domingo, to Sosua if they could make more money in those other places?
Of course there are some chicas who hit the jackpot and find a man who accommodates them in a luxury apartment, provides a car, (I know a few in the Cabarete area), and in some cases marries them and takes them to Europe, Canada, Brazil, or the US. However they are not making money by a large volume of sex acts, so they fall outside what you are talking about. Anyway, by the time the chica has been with the guy living overseas for a few years, and has children and a job, the questions of her origins and how they met become moot.
Buying a new stove or a new dress are pretty humble aspirations. If someone in the DR is wanting a kitchen stove, it is because they don't have one, or the cooking arrangements they have are pretty modest or inadequate. Maybe they had to cook over at her mother's house. I don't recall the exact details now, about 10 years later. When the chica in question was newly married her husband was working in a junior capacity in the meat department of a well known supermarket, so I don't think he was exactly bringing home a lot of money, but perhaps he got some meat out the back door, I don't know. She was living in Sabaneta, which has a lot of pretty humble homes, many of which would be described as shacks, where I would hesitate to even sit down, never mind sleep. No, you are correct that she was not dying of hunger or suffering from malnutrition, but I did not say that she was.
[QUOTE=SavePros321;1903064]Nice play on Biggie's [b]Ten Crack Commandments[/b], lol :-D
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYb_8MM1tGQ[/URL][/QUOTE]That's right Mr. SavePros. That was the inspiration for The Ten Chica Commandments!
[QUOTE=Frannie;1903781]You are just using a lot of high-flown academic terminology to cover up the fact that you have no special information
She was living in Sabaneta, which has a lot of pretty humble homes, many of which would be described as shacks, where I would hesitate to even sit down, never mind sleep. No, you are correct that she was not dying of hunger or suffering from malnutrition, but I did not say that she was.[/QUOTE]There you go again my man. Another anecdotal story to prove a point that can't be proven solely with the information you have provided. But you are right about one thing. I don't have any special information about prostitution in the Dominican Republic. I will stipulate that you are the expert on prostitution in the Dominican Republic in this discussion.
My hypothesis was that economic conditions do not drive the majority of women in the Dominican Republic into prostitution, neither to care for themselves nor to care for their children. I presented statistical facts about the difficult economic conditions over 40% of the women face here in the Dominican Republic. You counter with stories about prostitutes. My special knowledge and experiences are with regular women that are not prostitutes. I've told you their stories. As I said before, this entire discussion started because you took issue with me over my statement about how much it took to raise a child in the Dominican Republic.
Although your endless stories about prostitutes are very interesting and entertaining they really are not germane to the discussion at hand. You have not provided any specific information even on an anecdotal basis about the economic hardship of your prostitutes that shows this as the driving factor of their entry into prostitution. I have provided at least three examples of regular women (and you provided one) who are surviving on "borderline poor" incomes without resorting to prostitution. And I would like to add that in almost 2 years of living here I personally know many regular women who continue to exist and survive on "borderline poor" incomes. Regular women are my area of expertise. I started the UTR's, Non-Pros (NP) and Sugar Babies (SB) thread to discuss these women.
The argument you make is that most prostitutes are not making very much money. If one were to stipulate to that statement, then the anti prostitution candidate I read about in another thread actually has it right. Sexual Tourism is bad for the city of Sosua. It's bad for the women involved in prostitution because it does not provide a sustainable income. A fact you support: "So when I speak of my knowledge of the amount that hookers are earning on the North coast, I am assuming that there are not other areas where they are making considerably more money and finding more customers. " According to your statement these women would be better off working in jobs similar to the one you provided where they receive wages that leave them "borderline poor". Your statements as an expert and person of special knowledge in this area provides support for the anti prostitution politicians arguments for the need to get rid of prostitution in Sosua because it is holding back economic growth. With the removal of prostitution Sosua can be restored to the place it once was as a beach playground for tourists and families. Right?
[QUOTE=Frannie;1892219]From what I can make out from the ejaculations you expect us to gobble down, a Sugar Daddy is about the same thing as a Western Union novio?
Or rather Sugar Daddy is a term used on certain prostitution Web sites in the hope of avoiding legal sanctions and of persuading some gullible young women to prostitute themselves while fooling themselves into thinking they are not. Having had a bit of a browse of the Web site you link to, I find the Western Union novio thing in the DR infinitely honester and more likely to give satisfaction to both sides.[/QUOTE]Mr. Frannie,
You speak about me asking the forum to gobble down ejaculate. I make no such request of you or any other readers of this thread. Although I am flattered by your offer (I didn't know you rolled like that) I must decline. I have three harem girls that are happy to swallow the copious amounts of ejaculate that my seminal vesicles produce!
Your grasp of the Sugar Daddy concept is at best: faulty.
In no way does it resemble being a Western Union novio. How you managed to reach that conclusion escapes me completely. In your post you appear to reject the information that I provided. If you need more information from what you might deem to be a more credible source then I suggest that you review the extensive bank of material posted by other mongers on the issue.
This information can be found at [URL]http://www.usasexguide.info[/URL]. The majority of the information will be under Virginia: Richmond: "Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" "Amateurs or Not?" in the User Blog section. There is also a very active thread in California: "LOS Angeles: Sugar Daddy Sites" in the User Blog section and a formerly active thread in Nevada: Las Vegas: The Sugar World in the User Blog section.
I've been to The Sue and during my entire time there I didn't see a single establishment advertising that you could find prostitutes inside. Yet you advocate entering places of business (declaring them to be "prostitute bars") with the express purpose of picking up a prostitute, but you wish to accomplish the task while avoiding making a purchase in the establishment. True there is not expressed obligation for you to make a purchase. But the owner of the establishment has invested capital in overhead and has monthly expenses to maintain. And if a woman is sitting in the bar is just having a drink and minding her own business, aren't you the one convincing her and taking advantage of a gullible young women by proposing that she has sex with you for money? LOL!
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;1904003]
You speak about me asking the forum to gobble down ejaculate. I make no such request of you or any other readers of this thread. Although I am flattered by your offer (I didn't know you rolled like that) I must decline. I have three harem girls that are happy to swallow the copious amounts of ejaculate that my seminal vesicles produce!
Your grasp of the Sugar Daddy concept is at best faulty
In no way does it resemble being a Western Union novio. How you managed to reach that conclusion escapes me completely..[/QUOTE]
Urban dictionnary: Sugar daddy.
A man who provides money or other favors in exchange for sexual relations.
"All that ***** wants is a sugar daddy. ".
pros·ti·tute
ˈprästəˌt(y)o͞ot/
noun
noun: prostitute; plural noun: prostitutes
1.
a person, typically a woman, who engages in sexual activity for payment.
[QUOTE]
I've been to The Sue and during my entire time there I didn't see a single establishment advertising that you could find prostitutes inside. Yet you advocate entering places of business (declaring them to be "prostitute bars") with the express purpose of picking up a prostitute, but you wish to accomplish the task while avoiding making a purchase in the establishment. True there is not expressed obligation for you to make a purchase. But the owner of the establishment has invested capital in overhead and has monthly expenses to maintain. And if a woman is sitting in the bar is just having a drink and minding her own business, aren't you the one convincing her and taking advantage of a gullible young women by proposing that she has sex with you for money? [/QUOTE]
You are incredibly naive if you don't understand that certain bars and discos in Sosua (no one calls it 'The Sue") and some other places, exist purely for the purposes of making money out of prostitution, by providing a place where prostitutes can meet johns. They do not advertise this because if they did, they would be shut down, like Passions in Sosua was shut down primarily because it overtly advertised prostitution. The women you have seen sitting in these bars do not go there to "have a drink and mind their own business" even if it might appear that way to a naive prospect like yourself.
Frannie,
You know didn't quote my post as I wrote it. Here is exactly what I wrote:
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;1904003]Mr. Frannie,
You speak about me asking the forum to gobble down ejaculate. I make no such request of you or any other readers of this thread. Although I am flattered by your offer (I didn't know you rolled like that) I must decline. I have three harem girls that are happy to swallow the copious amounts of ejaculate that my seminal vesicles produce!
Your grasp of the Sugar Daddy concept is at best: faulty.
In no way does it resemble being a Western Union novio. How you managed to reach that conclusion escapes me completely. In your post you appear to reject the information that I provided. If you need more information from what you might deem to be a more credible source then I suggest that you review the extensive bank of material posted by other mongers on the issue...[/QUOTE]And your response (edited somewhat):
[QUOTE=Frannie;1904095]You are incredibly naive if you don't understand that certain bars and discos in Sosua (no one calls it 'The Sue") and some other places, exist purely for the purposes of making money out of prostitution, by providing a place where prostitutes can meet johns. They do not advertise this because if they did, they would be shut down, like Passions in Sosua was shut down primarily because it overtly advertised prostitution. The women you have seen sitting in these bars do not go there to "have a drink and mind their own business" even if it might appear that way to a naive prospect like yourself.[/QUOTE]You must be incredibly pedantic if you could not figure out that my response was in jest and my question to you rhetorical. Since you are fond of quoting the Urban Dictionary: LOL. It's original definition was "Laughing out loud" (also written occasionally as "Lots of Laughs" used as a brief acronym to denote great amusement in chat conversations).
What happens when a critic (such as yourself) is having an intellectually challenging conversation with a man in the arena (similar to me) when they run out of logical arguments and find themselves intellectually bankrupt? They resort to misrepresentations and personal insults.
One of my girls saved me 18,000 DOP. I just ordered her a new cell phone. BOOYAO!
I have a friend who's wife is pregnant and she got bit and has it. But she was out of her first trimester and that's when the baby faces the greatest danger from birth defects because that is when the organs affected by Zika are developing. So, far she is just in a lot of discomfort. The baby is fine.
This is a threadjack. Nobody touch a keyboard and no one gets hurt.
[QUOTE=GrownMan1;1907243]Game
Having a deeper understanding of the situation or transaction taking place than person and or people you're dealing with, thereby using it to your advantage. We all got game and gamed. And we all pay something.
Grownman1.[/QUOTE]From man in the arena!
Mr. Revere,
You prefer to be addressed directly? I'm going to do that here. Because according to Mr. Yonkers44 the Sosua Reports section is not the appropriate place to, how did he say it? Inject political or religious views. Since I have no medical skills the only thing I inject is my ejaculate into the holes of the many willing chicas that I run across on this island (But I digress).
[QUOTE=Revere;1908722]Have the people here that keep talking like they know sonething go where I have gone. If you read my La Victoria maximum prison post.[/QUOTE]Actually I did. But we are here to talk about your most recent post. You claim that others "talk shit" and you are here to save us all as the great checker of "weak motherfuckers". Ok. It reminds me of a line out of "Welcome to my Hood" where little Wayne says "I talk a lot of shit and practice what I preach". In addition you drone on and on about your adventures in La Victoria. You claim to have inside knowledge of a jail that is the subject of a detailed report the Dominican government only wants to as "Snoop Dogg" says: "drop it like it's hot". Yes, you have been there and reported what you saw. But your claim of exclusive inside knowledge is dubious at best.
[URL]http://acento.com.do/2016/actualidad/8364588-la-victoria-genera-mas-rd3-millones-semanales-negocios-internos/[/URL]
[URL]http://www.elnuevodiario.com.do/app/article.aspx?id=487907[/URL]
[QUOTE=Revere;1908722]People on the ground. I am on the ground right now! [/QUOTE]Really my man? So you are using your time and experience to be critical of others, give lessons on proper decorum when interacting with street prostitutes, and espousing your personal rhetoric in regards to how visitors of a particular racial background should behave. Give us some real information instead of hinting about seeing secret reports issued by the Dominican Government. Or stories about a Dominican Jail that are unrelated to the issues at hand.
[QUOTE=Revere;1908722]He reminds me of some people on this board who think they know something and have no connections that can help them when the shit hits the fan. Everyone talking tough like they know something has never been in there and trust me you have no connections in there and do not speak spainish you can forget it and pray you make it out. But I am snob. You been in there? [/QUOTE]No have have not "been in there". Unless you happen to be talking about the pussies of many Dominicanas. I've "been in there" plenty of times. And that is a more interesting past time (at least to me). And exactly who are you addressing? The majority of your post seems to address an audience really has not been participating in the discussion. I haven't seen a single post from a "want to be gangster", "weekend baller" or "Thug". (Although it is quite possible in this volatile environment that no one is self identifying as such). The entire point of your post is lost on me.
I haven't been in La Victoria. But if you think you are the only one with connections here on this island you are sadly mistaken. Mr. Oakie has police connections. Mr. E has pictures with high ranking government officials. They are both visitors. And I'm certain that many other long term visitors to this island have the same type of connections. But most importantly they have knowledge about how things operate on this island.
[QUOTE=Revere;1908722]I am as real as they come always respectful, but people want to talk shit like they know something I will check them because weak mothfuckers always want to try to lash out and put you down because they are not shit.[/QUOTE]Real? Maybe. Respectful? Hardly. Knowledgeable user of street lingo and slang? Yeah, I'll give you that one to you my man.
Although I have been known to fuck a mother on occasion, I hope I am not in the minority on that issue and if so I guess it just means I need to hit the gym and throw up some weight. I do not feel like I have been checked like a "weak motherfucker". Although I'm fairly certain that you and members of your critical crew would disagree.
"When a man who is nothing more than a critic has lost the intellectual battle they resort to misrepresentations and personal insults".
Subcmdr
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;1909167]Mr. Revere,
You prefer to be addressed directly? I'm going to do that here. Because according to Mr. Yonkers44 the Sosua Reports section is not the appropriate place to, how did he say it? Inject political or religious views. Since I have no medical skills the only thing I inject is my ejaculate into the holes of the many willing chicas that I run across on this island (But I digress).
Actually I did. But we are here to talk about your most recent post. You claim that others "talk shit" and you are here to save us all as the great checker of "weak motherfuckers". Ok. It reminds me of a line out of "Welcome to my Hood" where little Wayne says "I talk a lot of shit and practice what I preach". In addition you drone on and on about your adventures in La Victoria. You claim to have inside knowledge of a jail that is the subject of a detailed report the Dominican government only wants to as "Snoop Dogg" says: "drop it like it's hot". Yes, you have been there and reported what you saw. But your claim of exclusive inside knowledge is dubious at best.
[URL]http://acento.com.do/2016/actualidad/8364588-la-victoria-genera-mas-rd3-millones-semanales-negocios-internos/[/URL]
[URL]http://www.elnuevodiario.com.do/app/article.aspx?id=487907[/URL]
Really my man? So you are using your time and experience to be critical of others, give lessons on proper decorum when interacting with street prostitutes, and espousing your personal rhetoric in regards to how visitors of a particular racial background should behave. Give us some real information instead of hinting about seeing secret reports issued by the Dominican Government. Or stories about a Dominican Jail that are unrelated to the issues at hand.
No have have not "been in there". Unless you happen to be talking about the pussies of many Dominicanas. I've "been in there" plenty of times. And that is a more interesting past time (at least to me). And exactly who are you addressing? The majority of your post seems to address an audience really has not been participating in the discussion. I haven't seen a single post from a "want to be gangster", "weekend baller" or "Thug". (Although it is quite possible in this volatile environment that no one is self identifying as such). The entire point of your post is lost on me.
I haven't been in La Victoria. But if you think you are the only one with connections here on this island you are sadly mistaken. Mr. Oakie has police connections. Mr. E has pictures with high ranking government officials. They are both visitors. And I'm certain that many other long term visitors to this island have the same type of connections. But most importantly they have knowledge about how things operate on this island.
Real? Maybe. Respectful? Hardly. Knowledgeable user of street lingo and slang? Yeah, I'll give you that one to you my man.
Although I have been known to fuck a mother on occasion, I hope I am not in the minority on that issue and if so I guess it just means I need to hit the gym and throw up some weight. I do not feel like I have been checked like a "weak motherfucker". Although I'm fairly certain that you and members of your critical crew would disagree.
"When a man who is nothing more than a critic has lost the intellectual battle they resort to misrepresentations and personal insults".
Subcmdr[/QUOTE]Ok here is where I am right now. Let's see if you show up. I am hanging on the malecon in ensanche isabelita barrio across from the texaco. It is popping here right now. I am the only one with a cleveland caviliers hat on. No one else has it on cannot miss me. At 1 am I will be at eurphoria right before the bar on the left in the owners vip booth. You want to talk I will be there. You know the owner of eurphoria right should be no problem seeing me. I do not do brothels I like to hang out at hot spots with non pros. You have been to eurphoria on venezuela right? I will be there at 1 am. Hottest club tonight in santo domingo. You know that right. I know you been to eurphoria so you know exactly where the owners vip booth is meet drinks on me.
[QUOTE=Revere;1824329]First, the club next to Eurphoria is Energy Night Club. However, I said in a previous post the girls in groups meet in the next club to Energy on the corner that looks like a country western club and plays Latin music before they go to Energy and Eurphoria. [/QUOTE][QUOTE=Revere;1909410]Ok here is where I am right now. I am hanging on the malecon in ensanche isabelita barrio across from the texaco. At 1 am I will be at eurphoria right before the bar on the left in the owners vip booth. You have been to eurphoria on venezuela right? I will be there at 1 am. Hottest club tonight in santo domingo. [/QUOTE]Mr. Revere,
Welcome to the UTR's, Non-Pros (NP), and Sugar Babies (SB) thread. Given that we both prefer Non-Pros. I'm surprised you have not posted here before. I am familiar with your previous posts. If your invitation was sincere then I'll take a rain check.
I already had plans with my #1. But who wouldn't miss the opportunity to pop bottles with you and your "dimes" at the owners VIP booth in Euphoria. But, if you want to talk, there are better venues and better times. I prefer to have my harem girls keep me company during my prime social times. I don't ask them to fan me because I purchased one after I moved here. But I still enjoy it when they feed me grapes.
Euphoria is actually located in Santo Domingo Este. But you got the street right my man. If you are standing on the sidewalk in front of the Burger King and look across the street you will see Evolution, Euphoria, Energy, La Barrica. My harem girls prefer La Barrica. We sit on the second floor outside, have drinks and watch the street life below.
I hope you had a good evening and a most invigorating night. I certainly did.
P.S. PM me and we can set something up for the future.
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;1844755]Mr. Revere,
Excellent advice. I'll have to try your method next time. I don't mind checking a place out with a regular. Usually I go because they recommend it. And it never hurts to be seen in a venue with a pretty girl. It's not like the other girls care. It just makes you a challenge.[/QUOTE]I am surprised on you own blog you do not remember I did post a message which you said good advice to help you. You okay? I did go to La Victoria I posted pictures but like you did not remember I posted on your blog you did not due your due diligence to see I had posted pictures of La Victoria before you started talking as you always do trying to check me. You got to get it together your not as tight as you think because you would not be making these mistakes. Very sloppy and you know it! Eurporhia was poping last night please tell the board what's better than that on Saturday night. I am all over santo domingo and I do not know where more talent on a satuday night with dimes then eurphoria. Please do not just say better places tell the board. Next time show up you might learn something and meet people you do not know. If i know the owner of eurphoria assume i know a lot of people.
You called me out on your board I told you I am going to respond. Just let it go! You cool with me.
[QUOTE=Revere;1909625]I am surprised on you own blog you do not remember I did post a message which you said good advice to help you. You okay? I did go to La Victoria I posted pictures but like you did not remember I posted on your blog you did not due your due diligence to see I had posted pictures of La Victoria before you started talking as you always do trying to check me. You got to get it together your not as tight as you think because you would not be making these mistakes. Very sloppy and you know it! Eurporhia was poping last night please tell the board what's better than that on Saturday night. I am all over santo domingo and I do not know where more talent on a satuday night with dimes then eurphoria. Please do not just say better places tell the board. Next time show up you might learn something and meet people you do not know. If i know the owner of euphoria assume i know a lot of people.[/QUOTE]I'm fine my man. Thank you. My night with my #1 was very satisfying.
A review of my blog shows that you posted about Euphoria on Venezuela before. Nothing else. And if you read my previous post carefully you will see that I said my harem girls prefer La Barrica. I did not proffer the name of what I felt was the best club in Santo Domingo. Nor will I. I don't need too. You have already done that for me. I posted the pictures because you are not the only reader of this thread. You have not posted a single picture in my thread. I suppose that if someone wanted more information they could use the search function. But to do that they would need correct spelling of names, streets and proper locations.
I make mistakes. I've made many of them. In life and in what I have written on this forum. And when I make mistakes on this board there is a long list of critics to point them out. You are one of them. I make no challenge to the majority of your claims to fame. But if you are going proclaim yourself as the official checker of "weak motherfuckers", I would suggest that you check your spelling and your facts.
Woke up and the sun was shining. I looked out of my bedroom window. What did see? My never changing ocean view. Somehow, I just never seem to get bored with it. Haven't been in a hotel here yet that could match it.
Up early, doing my morning routine because I've got a busy day today. Fire up the Gran Jefe mobile and I'm off to complete my first task. Headed to the Western Union office. My #2 is on the outs with the father of children again and he refuses to pay what's required or anything else. A couple of days ago she let me know her youngest child's birthday was coming up and she wanted to take him to the pool and buy him a cake. I told her to let me know if she needed any help. And left it at that.
Never heard anything back from her. And it's the night before her child's birthday and she still hasn't figured it out. OK, I've got to ask her how much she needs. She indicates the birthday cake she has her eye on costs X (insert whatever large number that you can't afford to pay or that you are too cheap to pay here) pesos, but asks me if I could give her X plus (again just insert whatever large number that you can't afford to pay or that you are too cheap to pay, but add an amount that would make it totally ridiculous here). I tell her: "no problem". Because that's how I roll! But I'm thinking to myself: How, am I going to get the pesos to you? His birthday is tomorrow. I'm in for the night and I'm not headed back out to look for an open Western Union office". Now, if I was back in Vegas, there is a 24 hour place located 10 minutes from my apartment. Wouldn't be any problem. I ask her if tomorrow morning would be fine. And her response is: "Whatever you can do. " I love her to death!
So, I arrive at the Western Union office and get in line. It's longest line I've ever seen in this particular office and they have only person working. The gentleman in front of me was complaining to me about it and I wanted to tell him "It's your country". But thought better of it. Simply agreed and responded that I didn't know why they don't have more people working.
While waiting in this long line and I am multi-tasking like a mug. I have my number #3 on Whatsapp. And I gave the heads up that I would be visiting her in the store and was ready to purchase the items we had discussed. I've got a photo showing me my cart with all my items already there and a question do I want anything else. I tell her the additional things that I want and she goes off to look for them in her store. Sends me the pictures. Not the right stuff. We make a slight correction and she's back with more photos. Bingo! And I'm all set. I let her know I have some things to do before I arrive but I will be there a little bit after noon.
I arrive at the window and the transaction is seamless. My #2 is in the system already. It goes very quickly. And although I receive constant correction from the Spanish Professors in the forum, I'm able to complete the transaction quickly, efficiently and without question. I take a picture of the receipt and send it to my #2 in whatsapp. She's very happy and thankful. I apology for not being there in person (my money it there and that's even better for everyone involved) but I'm there in spirit. I tell her to document the day's event in pictures and send them to me.
Fire up the Gran Jefe mobile back up and I'm off to the store where my #3 works. I arrive and everything that I wanted is there. She is happy to see me and I'm happy to see her. She's right in my sweet spot age wise and we seem to have a special bond going even though we had a rough start. I have a few more things to price and we are off together to look around the store and price out the things I'm looking for. The things I need are so expensive here. You are paying for the boat trip. And they are so heavy I'm not sure it makes since to try and have them shipped in. The price difference on some of the items has me looking into it. My budget is already maxed so we return to her desk and has her boss ring my items up. She gets me a discount. I just love her to death!
So, she has been my personal shopper. She has saved me time, effort and money. And she is an outstanding performer in the bedroom. I decided to take her to lunch with the money she saved me. No, we are not going for empanadas motherfuckers. We are going to Galeria 360 motherfuckers. We are going to eat at the food court motherfuckers. And that is what we did. The eye candy in Galeria 360 is outstanding. I let her pick the food vendor because it's her treat. We had a leisurely lunch and talked about a lot of stuff.
So, it comes around to what I call the "I want to have your baby" discussion. I don't shy away from these discussions. I approach the issue head on. I start by telling her I'm interested but I have few things she needs to know and a few conditions. First thing is I remind her of how old I am. And I point out I'll be even older after 18 years of a child growing up. To a chica they are not phased by that "no importa" is always their response. Then I let her know that she needs keep having my babies until she gives me a son. That gives her pause. Then I let her know that I will not be providing any physical childcare. I'm up for doing fatherly duties and providing financial support (if the baby is mine) but that she better find a relative or hire someone to help her take care of the child or children. Lastly, I tell her she will not be living with me. I will always keep a residence separate from hers and I will be spending most of my time there. To a chica after having this discussion they simply say, "Tu me diste muchos cosas por me piensas" (You gave me many things for my thoughts).
Lunch is over with and I just hang out with her at her desk for the rest of the day. Every once and while I venture out to check out other stores and pick up a few other things. I also take a few pictures of just regular people going about their regular business.
Photos:
1. Old man putting in work. 2. But first, let me take selfie. 3. Ass for days.
All my harem girls (three right now) keep me interested and excited both inside and outside of the bedroom. I made my #2 AND her child happy! She sent me pictures of the pool party and the party with the birthday cake she bought him later that evening. And she saved the sexy photos in her bikini and bikini cover up and sent them to me the next day. Man she is gorgeous! I made my #3's day a little brighter. It was interesting seeing her interact in her work environment. She's a very popular girl and out going. I'm sure she will do well when she finishes university and starts seeking out better employment. It was also fun knowing I had seen her naked. LOL. This is how I prefer spending my time and money. I returned home and my number #1 hit me late in the evening. She had a long day at work.
This is SubCmdr reminding all critical motherfuckers that they don't count. I'm a man in the arena. And because I live here motherfuckers, it's not a trip report it's a life report. Until next time, this is SubCmdr signing off!
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;1910262]Woke up and the sun was shining. I looked out of my bedroom window. What did see? My never changing ocean view. Somehow, I just never seem to get bored with it. Haven't been in a hotel here yet that could match it.
Up early, doing my morning routine because I've got a busy day today. Fire up the Gran Jefe mobile and I'm off to complete my first task. Headed to the Western Union office. My #2 is on the outs with the father of children again and he refuses to pay what's required or anything else. A couple of days ago she let me know her youngest child's birthday was coming up and she wanted to take him to the pool and buy him a cake. I told her to let me know if she needed any help. And left it at that.
Never heard anything back from her. And it's the night before her child's birthday and she still hasn't figured it out. OK, I've got to ask her how much she needs. She indicates the birthday cake she has her eye on costs X (insert whatever large number that you can't afford to pay or that you are too cheap to pay here) pesos, but asks me if I could give her X plus (again just insert whatever large number that you can't afford to pay or that you are too cheap to pay, but add an amount that would make it totally ridiculous here). I tell her: "no problem". Because that's how I roll! But I'm thinking to myself: How, am I going to get the pesos to you? His birthday is tomorrow. I'm in for the night and I'm not headed back out to look for an open Western Union office". Now, if I was back in Vegas, there is a 24 hour place located 10 minutes from my apartment. Wouldn't be any problem. I ask her if tomorrow morning would be fine. And her response is: "Whatever you can do. " I love her to death!
So, I arrive at the Western Union office and get in line. It's longest line I've ever seen in this particular office and they have only person working. The gentleman in front of me was complaining to me about it and I wanted to tell him "It's your country". But thought better of it. Simply agreed and responded that I didn't know why they don't have more people working.
While waiting in this long line and I am multi-tasking like a mug. I have my number #3 on Whatsapp. And I gave the heads up that I would be visiting her in the store and was ready to purchase the items we had discussed. I've got a photo showing me my cart with all my items already there and a question do I want anything else. I tell her the additional things that I want and she goes off to look for them in her store. Sends me the pictures. Not the right stuff. We make a slight correction and she's back with more photos. Bingo! And I'm all set. I let her know I have some things to do before I arrive but I will be there a little bit after noon.
I arrive at the window and the transaction is seamless. My #2 is in the system already. It goes very quickly. And although I receive constant correction from the Spanish Professors in the forum, I'm able to complete the transaction quickly, efficiently and without question. I take a picture of the receipt and send it to my #2 in whatsapp. She's very happy and thankful. I apology for not being there in person (my money it there and that's even better for everyone involved) but I'm there in spirit. I tell her to document the day's event in pictures and send them to me.
Fire up the Gran Jefe mobile back up and I'm off to the store where my #3 works. I arrive and everything that I wanted is there. She is happy to see me and I'm happy to see her. She's right in my sweet spot age wise and we seem to have a special bond going even though we had a rough start. I have a few more things to price and we are off together to look around the store and price out the things I'm looking for. The things I need are so expensive here. You are paying for the boat trip. And they are so heavy I'm not sure it makes since to try and have them shipped in. The price difference on some of the items has me looking into it. My budget is already maxed so we return to her desk and has her boss ring my items up. She gets me a discount. I just love her to death!
So, she has been my personal shopper. She has saved me time, effort and money. And she is an outstanding performer in the bedroom. I decided to take her to lunch with the money she saved me. No, we are not going for empanadas motherfuckers. We are going to Galeria 360 motherfuckers. We are going to eat at the food court motherfuckers. And that is what we did. The eye candy in Galeria 360 is outstanding. I let her pick the food vendor because it's her treat. We had a leisurely lunch and talked about a lot of stuff.
So, it comes around to what I call the "I want to have your baby" discussion. I don't shy away from these discussions. I approach the issue head on. I start by telling her I'm interested but I have few things she needs to know and a few conditions. First thing is I remind her of how old I am. And I point out I'll be even older after 18 years of a child growing up. To a chica they are not phased by that "no importa" is always their response. Then I let her know that she needs keep having my babies until she gives me a son. That gives her pause. Then I let her know that I will not be providing any physical childcare. I'm up for doing fatherly duties and providing financial support (if the baby is mine) but that she better find a relative or hire someone to help her take care of the child or children. Lastly, I tell her she will not be living with me. I will always keep a residence separate from hers and I will be spending most of my time there. To a chica after having this discussion they simply say, "Tu me diste muchos cosas por me piensas" (You gave me many things for my thoughts).
Lunch is over with and I just hang out with her at her desk for the rest of the day. Every once and while I venture out to check out other stores and pick up a few other things. I also take a few pictures of just regular people going about their regular business.
Photos:
1. Old man putting in work. 2. But first, let me take selfie. 3. Ass for days.
All my harem girls (three right now) keep me interested and excited both inside and outside of the bedroom. I made my #2 AND her child happy! She sent me pictures of the pool party and the party with the birthday cake she bought him later that evening. And she saved the sexy photos in her bikini and bikini cover up and sent them to me the next day. Man she is gorgeous! I made my #3's day a little brighter. It was interesting seeing her interact in her work environment. She's a very popular girl and out going. I'm sure she will do well when she finishes university and starts seeking out better employment. It was also fun knowing I had seen her naked. LOL. This is how I prefer spending my time and money. I returned home and my number #1 hit me late in the evening. She had a long day at work.
This is SubCmdr reminding all critical motherfuckers that they don't count. I'm a man in the arena. And because I live here motherfuckers, it's not a trip report it's a life report. Until next time, this is SubCmdr signing off![/QUOTE]Great report!
I'm very experienced in Rio but new to DR. Have had alot of success off The Cupids. Latinamerican, brasil--in Brazil.
How are the non-pros in DR? Am speaking to a student who also works in a bank.
Are they keen to link with gringos? im pretty Young looking-about 30. Good looking. Speaks portuguese but understands spanish. She's 21 and im youthful 45. Thanks.Is it the norm there like brasil-with age discreptancy male-female and vice versa? best
[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;1933133]How are the non-pros in DR? Am speaking to a student who also works in a bank.[/QUOTE]Be careful. Does she work in a banco or a banca?
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1933152]Be careful. Does she work in a banco or a banca?[/QUOTE]Banca de loteria and studies civil engineering but can't afford the books anymore so will drop out.
They say those things all the time to get guys to send them money.
[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;1933195]Banca de loteria and studies civil engineering but can't afford the books anymore so will drop out.[/QUOTE].
[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;1933133]Great report!
I'm very experienced in Rio but new to DR. Have had alot of success off The Cupids. Latinamerican, brasil--in Brazil.
How are the non-pros in DR? Am speaking to a student who also works in a bank.
Are they keen to link with gringos? im pretty Young looking-about 30. Good looking. Speaks portuguese but understands spanish. She's 21 and im youthful 45. Thanks.Is it the norm there like brasil-with age discreptancy male-female and vice versa? best[/QUOTE]Banca de Loteria is not a bank. You play lottery there. Age difference in Dominican Republic doesn't mean much. If you are 45 and decent looking, you can have any girl up from 18. If the girl doesn't have ID, she's probably less than legal age, so be careful. You can meet Dominicanas anywhere, in shopping malls, buses, in the street. Just start talking to them and you have a good chance taking them back to your hotel room. Just be careful with your money, because these girls are even more after your money than the Brazilian girls. They think that you have a printer in your hotel room, where you can print more dollar bills.
[QUOTE=Nordico;1933529]Banca de Loteria is not a bank. You play lottery there. Age difference in Dominican Republic doesn't mean much. If you are 45 and decent looking, you can have any girl up from 18. If the girl doesn't have ID, she's probably less than legal age, so be careful. You can meet Dominicanas anywhere, in shopping malls, buses, in the street. Just start talking to them and you have a good chance taking them back to your hotel room. Just be careful with your money, because these girls are even more after your money than the Brazilian girls. They think that you have a printer in your hotel room, where you can print more dollar bills.[/QUOTE]Thank you. Also do you know if a student at their free university-autonomia do Santo Domingo which has chapters all over DR get their books and materials free-I know tuition is pretty much free at public universities. Or the they have to pay?
This obviously could be a useful, almost plausible scam line.
Appreciated.
Girl is from Francisco De Macoris and works and studies. From poor family.
[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;1935519]Also do you know if a student at their free university-autonomia do Santo Domingo which has chapters all over DR get their books and materials free. Or the they have to pay?
[/QUOTE]No, they have to buy them. It is another scam as they are always updating the required edition and they are incredibly expensive and poorly produced. The upside is the students share books, buy second-hand, and use older editions corrected in ballpoint as far as they can get away with it.
[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;1935519]This obviously could be a useful, almost plausible scam line.
[/QUOTE]If You don't see her you'll never know. Most students even in the first world countries are short of money and a job in a banca de loteria is as good (or bad) as any other job. There are 60000 of them in DR and they are totally legal. Just stay away from WU and don't get involved in her problem solving. As you know, all the Latin women have a long list of problems.
[QUOTE=Nordico;1935578]... and don't get involved in her problem solving. [/QUOTE]This is prudent advice. Just also remind your reader that by not "getting involved in her problem solving" E. G. , without giving the BFE, no chance of getting a GFE, as simple as that quid pro quo. Of course, it is fine for many.
[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;1933133]Great report!
I'm very experienced in Rio but new to DR. Have had alot of success off The Cupids. Latinamerican, brasil--in Brazil.
How are the non-pros in DR? Am speaking to a student who also works in a bank.
Are they keen to link with gringos? im pretty Young looking-about 30. Good looking. Speaks portuguese but understands spanish. She's 21 and im youthful 45. Thanks.Is it the norm there like brasil-with age discreptancy male-female and vice versa? best[/QUOTE]Mr. FuckAfMedDig,
The non-pros in the Dominican Republic are lovely and plentiful. There are plenty of beautiful, young, hardworking women here that are not on the streets, or in the bars and "restaurants" slinging pussy for a living every night. This is the blog where we talk about them. You will not have a problem when it comes to age difference my man. The average age difference of my harem is 22.5 years younger than I am.
BFE gets you GFE. If it's true that the Sosua venue is in decline then bringing some language skill to the table and a bit of game will indeed have you cleaning up as I have been for almost the last two years of living here.
Join me. It pays to be a man in the arena!
[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;1936016]This is prudent advice. Just also remind your reader that by not "getting involved in her problem solving" E. G. , without giving the BFE, no chance of getting a GFE, as simple as that quid pro quo. Of course, it is fine for many.[/QUOTE]Exactly. It is a miracle that older men can fairly easily get the opportunity in the DR to have something that approximates pretty closely to lovemaking with a lithe young under-25. But if that is not your bag, then go for whatever turns you on.
The advice to not get involved in their problems is prudent if your desire is simple to get your dick off. Which I might add is a perfectly reasonable goal. As a sexual tourist to the Dominican Republic you will find a plethora of young women here that provide that service at a reasonable price.
But if you are interested in something different, check out the posts by Mr. Oakie and I. We provide plenty of examples of how you can pursue a different type of experience. Men in the arena do not pay attention the the advice or suggestions of critics.
Chica wants / needs newest Iphone or Galaxy? What if she's out of money to pay a rent? Or maybe she needs a few thousand dollars to pay for University? Or what if her mother has a cancer and needs thousands or even dozens of thousands for medical bills?
[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;1936016]This is prudent advice. Just also remind your reader that by not "getting involved in her problem solving" E. G. , without giving the BFE, no chance of getting a GFE, as simple as that quid pro quo. Of course, it is fine for many.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Bliadun;1936690]Chica wants / needs newest Iphone or Galaxy? What if she's out of money to pay a rent? Or maybe she needs a few thousand dollars to pay for University? Or what if her mother has a cancer and needs thousands or even dozens of thousands for medical bills?[/QUOTE]Its true but you have to think what she would have done if she hadn't met you?- exactly. Carried on surviving or maybe tried to meet a new guy with "stability".
My one just asked reluctantly for some new shoes and dress for her cousin's graduation.
I haven't met her yet but will in October.
I said "love that's not my responsibility".
If I get down there and all is great and I dig her, I might help her with a few school books-in other words I would go with her to buy them.
Once you start indiscriminately shelling out, it won't stop because she needs and you're the nearest ATM. Even if she likes you.
Same with poor hot girls from Rio and rest of Brazil but in Rio theyre very forward with requests for help.
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;1936473]Mr. FuckAfMedDig,
The non-pros in the Dominican Republic are lovely and plentiful. There are plenty of beautiful, young, hardworking women here that are not on the streets, or in the bars and "restaurants" slinging pussy for a living every night. This is the blog where we talk about them. You will not have a problem when it comes to age difference my man. The average age difference of my harem is 22.5 years younger than I am.
BFE gets you GFE. If it's true that the Sosua venue is in decline then bringing some language skill to the table and a bit of game will indeed have you cleaning up as I have been for almost the last two years of living here.
Join me. It pays to be a man in the arena![/QUOTE]I agree-its sounds like Brazil on a smaller scale.
Many good=hearted non-pros to be had-in Br its Cupid etc. No one has ever asked me for money.
DR seems even more empoverished or maybe somewhere like Cupid in DR is an obvious place to try and connect with better off men in an easy environment.
Even the good-hearted girls need help if they come from nothing so its just a choice whether to get involved knee-deep or just help when it really matters to a degree.
To me theres a difference between wanting school books or an Iphone 7. I don't even have an Iphone 7!loool.
[QUOTE=Bliadun;1936690]Chica wants / needs newest Iphone or Galaxy? What if she's out of money to pay a rent? Or maybe she needs a few thousand dollars to pay for University? Or what if her mother has a cancer and needs thousands or even dozens of thousands for medical bills?[/QUOTE]Clearly the answer will depend on how badly you want her, and if you are only meeting people that want Iphone, most likely you are in the wrong neck of the woods. I have bought a iPhone but you want to separate the wheat from the chaff and then use your judgment based on how deep your pocket is and how desirable the object is (and most importantly if your objective is short or long term; Especially if you want to get into rent or medical bills). I have been at this for awhile but I know that I am not a white knight BUT no matter what, one can always treat the person with respect even when the answer is "no", that is where the BFE begins.
[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;1936754]I agree-its sounds like Brazil on a smaller scale.
Many good=hearted non-pros to be had-in Br its Cupid etc. No one has ever asked me for money.
DR seems even more empoverished or maybe somewhere like Cupid in DR is an obvious place to try and connect with better off men in an easy environment.
Even the good-hearted girls need help if they come from nothing so its just a choice whether to get involved knee-deep or just help when it really matters to a degree.
To me theres a difference between wanting school books or an Iphone 7. I don't even have an Iphone 7!loool.[/QUOTE]Damn straight Mr. MedDog!
The guys on this board that can't tell or don't know the difference between a hard working young lady with a real job and those that are out there slanging pussy on the streets, bars and "restaurants" every night need to stay out of this part of the game and in their own lane. They need to stop getting twisted up. This part of the game requires judgement and independent thought. If they can't figure that out then they need to stay in the slow lane.
There is a difference between a chica wanting school books or money for their kids birthday party and a iPhone 7 request. A chica who asked me for a iPhone 7 gets cut, immediately! If I run into a situation that has me pondering, then I run it past my "cabinet of wise men" a group of other mongers who's advice experience and judgement I respect.
You have to know what things cost where and how that chica lives. If a chica is telling you they need 200 pesos for her taxi home and then you watch her get on her phone after she leaves and she gets on a moto, you may have reason to expect that her reputation for veracity is incomplete.
I have found that once you help a chica out, if you tell them no on another request it does not cause a problem. They know that if you helped them out before, you may help them out again later. Also you don't need to every provide assistance for more than they can expect from a Dominican male from their own station in life. Of course all of this takes knowledge developed from experience, time and language skills.
Men in the arena are a triple threat. Knock the bottom of it my man!
[QUOTE=Bliadun;1936690]Chica wants / needs newest Iphone or Galaxy? What if she's out of money to pay a rent? Or maybe she needs a few thousand dollars to pay for University? Or what if her mother has a cancer and needs thousands or even dozens of thousands for medical bills?[/QUOTE]It would be unwise to pay out thousands of dollars for her to go to university unless you wanted to make a long term commitment to a relationship with her. After all it is not uncommon even in the US for one spouse to work to pay for the other to go to law school or medical school or something in the hope that the investment will pay off in the long term.
If a chica is asking for a newest model iPhone or Galaxy from the get-go, I would take that as a warning sign, because more than likely she would be looking to sell the device on or pawn it. If she just wants a smart phone to use for Whatsapp and Facebook, a much later model phone would do the job. For example you could get an unlocked Apple 5 C phone on Ebay for less than $150 that would meet her needs perfectly well, but if she demurred and insisted she wanted the latest model, I would pass her by to avoid future problems. (You could also get her a perfectly good smart phone of various brands for as little as $30.).
There are an almost infinite number of different levels of engagement from occasional weekends for recreational sex without commitments to parenting children together, so there are different levels of financial commitment. If you want the former, it is probably best to just be honest with her about what you want and you might be surprised how well it works out, but of course you will not get exclusivity.
If you have not yet met the woman and started a sexual relationship with her, but she seemed promising, you might send a small token down payment or present one time ahead of meeting her, but I would not go overboard on it--kind of like bringing a bunch of flowers to a first date to show sincerity, but cash rather than flowers.
As far as phones and stuff goes, there is a kind of opportunity cost factor in that in major countries like US and Canada you may be able to buy certain items that are very expensive in the DR for much less money in your country, so that the gift has a higher value for her than the cost to you, especially if she does not have a credit or debit card to make overseas purchases (which is the case for most chicas.) Something like a cheap smart phone combined with a Bluetooth speaker to play music would cost a lot more in the DR than what you would pay for it, or you might want to give her your old phone and speaker and get a new one for yourself.
Low tech is high tech when you have no tech. And it's always the thought behind the gift that counts much more than the gift!
[QUOTE=Frannie;1936808]If a chica is asking for a newest model iPhone or Galaxy from the get-go, I would take that as a warning sign, because more than likely she would be looking to sell the device on or pawn it. If she just wants a smart phone to use for Whatsapp and Facebook, a much later model phone would do the job. For example you could get an unlocked Apple 5 C phone on Ebay for less than $150 that would meet her needs perfectly well, but if she demurred and insisted she wanted the latest model, I would pass her by to avoid future problems. (You could also get her a perfectly good smart phone of various brands for as little as $30.).[/QUOTE]
The more hard core girls are will insist on the Samsung and I phones. In truth DR chicas are very geared toward brand names. As in the US the poorest people want the most expensive things. The status of having one of items can not ne appreciated by us first world mongers.
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;1936870]Low tech is high tech when you have no tech. And it's always the thought behind the gift that counts much more than the gift![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=OldKool;1937030]The more hard core girls are will insist on the Samsung and I phones. In truth DR chicas are very geared toward brand names. As in the US the poorest people want the most expensive things. The status of having one of items can not ne appreciated by us first world mongers.[/QUOTE]That is why you want to avoid the ones who are asking for an iPhone 7 or similar.
Yes, Dominicans are geared towards brand names, but in many cases it is just because those are the only products they have heard of, which is why they will tend to buy heavily advertised brands like Carnation condensed milk, Colgate toothpaste, Kelloggs cornflakes, and Pampers [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord131][CodeWord131][/url] even though there are equivalent cheaper local brands available for half the price. Actually you could also say the same about Americans.
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;1936870]Low tech is high tech when you have no tech. And it's always the thought behind the gift that counts much more than the gift![/QUOTE]I don't know if you still can, but as recently as a few months ago you could buy the Lumia 640 Windows phone in Best Buy for $29.99 and that is a phone with 5-inch display, 4 G LTE connectivity and an 8-megapixel camera and a micro SD card slot.
[QUOTE=Frannie;1937082] Yes, Dominicans are geared towards brand names, but in many cases it is just because those are the only products they have heard of, which is why they will tend to buy heavily advertised brands like Carnation condensed milk, Colgate toothpaste, Kelloggs cornflakes, and Pampers even though there are equivalent cheaper local brands available for half the price. Actually you could also say the same about Americans.[/QUOTE]Once a girl from the DR asked me to bring "Chiclets". I do not chew gums and so I thought she was specific about the brand. Only when I took some to her, I realized that "Chiclets" is a generic world for them for gums, just like you mentioned: "pampers".
Older folks everywhere are brand neutral, focusing more on functionality. We can see through the trick of marketing played my Madison Ave. Young people (as much as in this country as anywhere else) are too taken by the game of "one up-manship" - which is why you see queues in front of Apple store through the night. WTF?
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;1936870]Low tech is high tech when you have no tech. And it's always the thought behind the gift that counts much more than the gift![/QUOTE]When I was kid I didn't realize I was poor until I got into college and started hanging out with people who were really rich. In my family, the concept of the "hand-me-down" ran deep. Dad or Mother got the nicest things and when they replaced something then it came to me or my brother. Now the concept of the "hand-me-down" is something that I have introduced to my Chias. I tell them straight up that when they have worked and saved for the last 30 years then they can have what I have.
The first phone I ever bought a chica was a $30 BLU purchased during a Black Friday sale at Fry's. It was truly a piece of junk. But she was ecstatic to receive it and used that phone until it literally fell apart in her hands. The next phone I got her was a used iPhone 4 8 GB. She was jumping up and down about that one and is still using it to this day. It was having some problems so I bought her a BLU Studio something for $70. She used it for a while and then decided that her iPhone 4 was better so she gave the BLU to her sister that did not have a smartphone. Her sister was very appreciative to receive it and my chica told her that I bought it for her from the US. Thereby earning both her and I some family cred and goodwill. For my chica's birthday I have bought her a refurbished iPhone 4's 16 GB which was the best brand / type / model of phone I have ever owned in my life. She is going to be static. And I am moving her up the tech curve.
Your chica has asked you for a iPhone 7? Do it Dominican male style. Promise her the world and only deliver your cum. Sure baby, bend over and play with mine while I fuck you in the ass and I'll get you one.
Uh huh, LOL!
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;1937278]When I was kid I didn't realize I was poor until I got into college and started hanging out with people who were really rich. In my family, the concept of the "hand-me-down" ran deep. Dad or Mother got the nicest things and when they replaced something then it came to me or my brother. Now the concept of the "hand-me-down" is something that I have introduced to my Chias. I tell them straight up that when they have worked and saved for the last 30 years then they can have what I have.
The first phone I ever bought a chica was a $30 BLU purchased during a Black Friday sale at Fry's. It was truly a piece of junk. But she was ecstatic to receive it and used that phone until it literally fell apart in her hands. The next phone I got her was a used iPhone 4 8 GB. She was jumping up and down about that one and is still using it to this day. It was having some problems so I bought her a BLU Studio something for $70. She used it for a while and then decided that her iPhone 4 was better so she gave the BLU to her sister that did not have a smartphone. Her sister was very appreciative to receive it and my chica told her that I bought it for her from the US. Thereby earning both her and I some family cred and goodwill. For my chica's birthday I have bought her a refurbished iPhone 4's 16 GB which was the best brand / type / model of phone I have ever owned in my life. She is going to be static. And I am moving her up the tech curve.
Your chica has asked you for a iPhone 7? Do it Dominican male style. Promise her the world and only deliver your cum. Sure baby, bend over and play with mine while I fuck you in the ass and I'll get you one.
Uh huh, LOL![/QUOTE]Lool I'm stocking up on used Iphone 4's here in Uk cause theyre dirt cheap. Like 50 $. Presents for my girls in Brazil who don't even have a phone and maybe a few in DR.
Hey man what would be the best way to go from Santiago or Sn Francisco de macoris to SD? I have never travelled there. Trying so hang w a few I've set up if I fly into Santiago then to San Francisco then to SD. And fly back to NY.
I don't drive.
What would be some options -you the expert man!
[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;1937901]Hey man what would be the best way to go from Santiago or Sn Francisco de macoris to SD? I have never travelled there. Trying so hang w a few I've set up if I fly into Santiago then to San Francisco then to SD. And fly back to NY.
I don't drive.[/QUOTE]Since you don't drive then you should have the chick come see you in Santo Domingo or Santiago or you could be in for hella disappointment and / or a bunch of wasted time.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1937911]Since you don't drive then you should have the chick come see you in Santo Domingo or Santiago or you could be in for hella disappointment and / or a bunch of wasted time.[/QUOTE]Yes in SD one of them is comin to see me-landin in Santiago but have a few in Francisco I want to see who can't come to santiago due to university. How would I best get from somewhere like Francisco de Macoris to SD in your expert opinion?
Hire someone to drive?
[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;1937938]Yes in SD one of them is comin to see me-landin in Santiago but have a few in Francisco I want to see who can't come to santiago due to university. How would I best get from somewhere like Francisco de Macoris to SD in your expert opinion?
Hire someone to drive?[/QUOTE]No idea since I drive. But the flake out percentage is high in that area and there is not shit to do there. That is why I say it is best to have them take the bus to you in one of the major cities. You are probably looking at $80-$100 to have someone drive you there. Also I am not aware of any hotels in the area. I have been to cabanas (sex motels) on the outskirts though.
[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;1937085]Once a girl from the DR asked me to bring "Chiclets". I do not chew gums and so I thought she was specific about the brand. [/QUOTE]Gum in Spanish = 'chicle' so she was probably saying 'chicles.'
[QUOTE=Dickhead;1937945]Gum in Spanish = 'chicle' so she was probably saying 'chicles.'[/QUOTE]It is entirely possible but on phone it sounded like Chiclets. Also because that is a brand I have seen. I know nothing about gums in English, let alone Spanish.
I don't have a car. Can you please buy me a Porsche or Lexus. That's how it sounds when someone asks for the latest iPhone or Galaxy. If you don't see the signs then she has the right fool.
[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;1937980]It is entirely possible but on phone it sounded like Chiclets. Also because that is a brand I have seen. I know nothing about gums in English, let alone Spanish.[/QUOTE]LOL. That is because she did say chiclet. DH is giving you the formal word. But nobody goes around saying chicle. Most people use the diminutive chiclet when refering to chewing gum. Pay attention to the root. If a chick told you that she was in her casita (instead of casa) then you would know she was simply saying she was at home.
[QUOTE=GrownMan1;1938193]I don't have a car. Can you please buy me a Porsche or Lexus. That's how it sounds when someone asks for the latest iPhone or Galaxy. If you don't see the signs then she has the right fool.[/QUOTE]Well you are a better man than me. Because I don't hear shit when someone asks for something like that. Dudes too scared to lose out on some pussy. In Thailand I used to mess around with a Filipino chick who was married to a European guy. They had a tight crib with a pool. She drove a big ass Toyota SUV. And she had what appeared to be a new phone. Do you know this bih going to ask me to buy her a new phone? I'm the side guy; I don't have that type of responsibility. Needless to say, the day she asked for that phone was the last day that we ever spoke. Bih was fine, pussy was good, and she treated me like a king. She even had a cookout for my mom and aunts at her house when her husband was out of town. But bih I'm not about to buy your ass a phone.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1937942]No idea since I drive. But the flake out percentage is high in that area and there is not shit to do there. That is why I say it is best to have them take the bus to you in one of the major cities. You are probably looking at $80-$100 to have someone drive you there. Also I am not aware of any hotels in the area. I have been to cabanas (sex motels) on the outskirts though.[/QUOTE]There is Caribe Tours bus service from Santo Domingo to San Francisco de Macoris every hour. Western Union $50 to me and I will send you a free ticket. There is also at least one hotel there Hotel Las Caobas, but it is not close to downtown. The last bus back to Santo Domingo leaves at 6:30 pm.
[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;1937938]landin in Santiago but have a few in Francisco I want to see who can't come to santiago due to university. How would I best get from somewhere like Francisco de Macoris to SD?[/QUOTE]Often by sending a small amount, say 500 pesos as passage money, you are establishing your credibility and making an offer that is hard for them to refuse including "university" girls. Also, you have hometown advantage if they are visiting you and like Mr Enternational states, less risk of flaking not to speak of your wasted travel time. Of course, there is a risk that some may flake despite the money and I have had such things happen to me. Personally I visited that city (3rd largest if I recall) as I had a couple of contacts there and stayed at a hotel in the center. Hotel Libano?
Also check when they say San Francisco, if it is indeed that or other towns close by, like Pimentel, in which case, two sets of buses are required. Actually three, scooter to the first bus that brings you to San Francisco and then another change to Santiago. Easily about a 2-3 hour's jaunt. However, it is entirely possible to do it, I. E. , back and forth the same day.
Re going to SD from there, you would need to check Caribe Tours' website. They have a service from Nagua that passes through Pimentel if I recall, on its way to SD. This means you will have to also find where Pimentel is and get a bus / cab to get to the bus terminus, from San Francisco which is about a 15-20 minutes ride. The alternative is to return to Santiago and catch another bus.
In terms of getting a driver, I have no clue either as I rent a car.
Good luck!
[QUOTE=Frannie;1938249]There is Caribe Tours bus service from Santo Domingo to San Francisco de Macoris every hour. Western Union $50 to me and I will send you a free ticket. There is also at least one hotel there Hotel Las Caobas, but it is not close to downtown. The last bus back to Santo Domingo leaves at 6:30 pm.[/QUOTE]Thanks man. How long us that bus ride BTW? 3/4 hours?
Whats a GF friendly hotel in SD that's good quality as well?
Also do hotels have issues w girls coming up daytime who don't stay over? Non-pros etc.
Sorry-I'm only a Rio expert -not DR at all.
Thanks again gents.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1938225]LOL. That is because she did say chiclet. DH is giving you the formal word. But nobody goes around saying chicle. Most people use the diminutive chiclet when refering to chewing gum. [/QUOTE]It is curious because the French uses "chewing gum" or gum albeit with their accent and the Italians say, "gomma the masticare" or "chingomma" while the Spaniards took the brand name and made a word out of it.
[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;1938332]Often by sending a small amount, say 500 pesos as passage money, you are establishing your credibility and making an offer that is hard for them to refuse including "university" girls. Also, you have hometown advantage if they are visiting you and like Mr Enternational states, less risk of flaking not to speak of your wasted travel time. Of course, there is a risk that some may flake despite the money and I have had such things happen to me. Personally I visited that city (3rd largest if I recall) as I had a couple of contacts there and stayed at a hotel in the center. Hotel Libano?
Also check when they say San Francisco, if it is indeed that or other towns close by, like Pimentel, in which case, two sets of buses are required. Actually three, scooter to the first bus that brings you to San Francisco and then another change to Santiago. Easily about a 2-3 hour's jaunt. However, it is entirely possible to do it, I. E. , back and forth the same day.
Re going to SD from there, you would need to check Caribe Tours' website. They have a service from Nagua that passes through Pimentel if I recall, on its way to SD. This means you will have to also find where Pimentel is and get a bus / cab to get to the bus terminus, from San Francisco which is about a 15-20 minutes ride. The alternative is to return to Santiago and catch another bus.
In terms of getting a driver, I have no clue either as I rent a car.
Thanks for advice!
Good luck![/QUOTE]Thanks again.
I will ship one to Punta Cana when I'm there. Some passage money. Back and forth everyday for sure. How are hotels with day time guests by the way?
San Francisco one is pickin me up in Santiago airport so shd be ok. But for sure will check out which particluar city she's in. Also if I'm going to Punta Cana or from Punta Cana might be easier to fly to Santiago? And back from Santiago to Punta Cana if I'm flying back to Europe from there. Anyone tried domestic flights?
[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;1938797]I will ship one to Punta Cana when I'm there. Some passage money. Back and forth everyday for sure. How are hotels with day time guests by the way?
San Francisco one is pickin me up in Santiago airport so shd be ok. But for sure will check out which particluar city she's in. Also if I'm going to Punta Cana or from Punta Cana might be easier to fly to Santiago? And back from Santiago to Punta Cana if I'm flying back to Europe from there. Anyone tried domestic flights?[/QUOTE]No one can give you a standard answer on hotel guest policy. Some may allow, others not and some others might need ID etc. The all-inclusive resort in places like Punta Cana is a whole different animal, I am given to understand but I have no personal experience there. The short term motels, known as cabanas might do the trick should you run into trouble. In any case, you had better read some of the material written here.
I would never allow anyone pick me up at an airport. When and how I come in and go out is not information that I share, typically, certainly not with someone I have never met.
I have no idea about internal flights. I rent a car.
Have fun!
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1938225]LOL. That is because she did say chiclet. DH is giving you the formal word. But nobody goes around saying chicle. Most people use the diminutive chiclet when refering to chewing gum. Pay attention to the root. If a chick told you that she was in her casita (instead of casa) then you would know she was simply saying she was at home.[/QUOTE]Umm well I hate to tell you, but the diminutive of a noun that ends in "e" is -cito / a, so it would be 'chiclecito. ' I promise you I've been to more Spanish-speaking countries than you have been to, and 'chicle' for gum is quite universal.
[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;1938338]the Spaniards took the brand name and made a word out of it.[/QUOTE]I hope you don't seriously think that. It was completely the other way around. The brand name comes from the French and Spanish words. But in any case, chewing gum is considered 'muy común' in most Spanish-speaking countries.
[QUOTE=Dickhead;1938825]Umm well I hate to tell you, but the diminutive of a noun that ends in "e" is -cito / a, so it would be 'chiclecito. ' I promise you I've been to more Spanish-speaking countries than you have been to, and 'chicle' for gum is quite universal.[/QUOTE]Educate me brother. The only Spanish speaking countries that I have not been to are Honduras, Bolivia, Paraguay and the Canary Islands. I am in no way claiming to be an expert in Spanish either way. I do have a degree in French and was a high school French teacher though.
[QUOTE=Dickhead;1938827]I hope you don't seriously think that. It was completely the other way around. The brand name comes from the French and Spanish words. But in any case, chewing gum is considered 'muy comn' in most Spanish-speaking countries.[/QUOTE]This is what Wikipedia states: "The product's name is derived from Nahuatl word tziktli, in Spanish chicle, the substance from which chewing gum was traditionally and still is made. " I certainly did not know.
Thank you.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1938838]Educate me brother. The only Spanish speaking countries that I have not been to are Honduras, Bolivia, Paraguay and the Canary Islands. I am in no way claiming to be an expert in Spanish either way. I do have a degree in French and was a high school French teacher though.[/QUOTE]Well, the Canary Islands are not a country. They are part of Spain. So assuming you have been to Equatorial Guinea, we might be tied. Been there?
Anybody who really loves pussy has to go to Paraguay. That is the best pussy on the planet. However, it is best experienced out of its native environment because other than pussy, Paraguay sucks. I strongly encourage all mongers to seek out paraguayas in places like Spain and Argentina. I've even found them in Amsterdam.
[QUOTE=Dickhead;1938842]Anybody who really loves pussy has to go to Paraguay. That is the best pussy on the planet.[/QUOTE]I hit one in Troc in Lima. No complaints from me!
[QUOTE=Frannie;1937084]I don't know if you still can, but as recently as a few months ago you could buy the Lumia 640 Windows phone in Best Buy for $29.99 and that is a phone with 5-inch display, 4 G LTE connectivity and an 8-megapixel camera and a micro SD card slot.[/QUOTE]Yes you still can. And although the description you provided of the phone is accurate, it comes with a windows operating system and is not a unlocked phone. IMO a phone that requires a carrier plan before they will unlock it for you is not the optimal purchase to make for anyone that does not live in the USA.
Everybody get your hands up. It's a mother fucking thread jack!
[QUOTE=Wrx2005;1950916]Simple answer before I take everything in. The basic premise of relationship or arrangement between a man and a woman is consensual and it is mutual (use). Nothing wrong with that. The complexity of such things is when deception and unwanted imbalances is introduced, and occurs in those relationships / arrangements (by either party or both concurrently).[/QUOTE]Mr. WRX,
Let's start with simple definitions. I see an arrangement as no more than different type of relationship (I. E. Business relationship, friendship, competitor). And I now have a better understanding of how you are using the word USE (my question was intended to be rhetorical and was written in jest). I see that USE can be both mutual and desired. But is it really that hard to remember that if I'm nothing more than a walking ATM, then they are nothing more than cum depositories? For me personally, no! I have no problem remembering what Slick Rick had to say about the matter. And I'm quite comfortable with that type of relationship and all other types (presuming of course they lead to sex and my CPO stays within my targeted range).
Now, it is the rare relationship that starts with both parties on an equal footing. (And yes I know you are a stickler for precise language. I read what you wrote. Continue to read on). Often times imbalance precipitates the initiation of the relationship in the first place. Mere circumstance can precipitate "unwanted imbalances" and by its very nature any "arrangement" is by it's very nature deceptive. In fact deception is required and demanded. GFE: when when the individual damn well knows she is not your fucking girlfriend and you have no intention on being her fucking boyfriend but the expectation or demand is that her performance is good enough to trick the higher brain functions into believing that is the case. I am uncertain how anyone who says they got it can deny that they were deceived or that they simply chose to be deceived in order to achieve the experience. The only way that that type of interaction could happen without deception is if GFE is defined in terms of specific behaviors.
It is also rare that a certain amount of deception does not creep into every relationship. I look at it like a machine where the specs on how the parts go together change over time but still remain in tolerance for successful operation. When they get out of tolerance catastrophic failure occurs. In an airplane that situation can test the skill of any aviator. If you find yourself in that situation and you run out of altitude before your skill allows you to land safely, it can often be fatal. But if that occurs in a well constructed arrangement or relationship, it should simply be a matter of sticking your head out the door and yelling "next".
The idea of added complexity to me seems like a given as the parties in relationships are not machines and that is exactly what makes the relationships we enter into interesting in the first place. Or maybe not. As the raging debate that seems to be on going about mongering techniques seems to illustrate.
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;1949234]Yes you still can. And although the description you provided of the phone is accurate, it comes with a windows operating system and is not a unlocked phone. IMO a phone that requires a carrier plan before they will unlock it for you is not the optimal purchase to make for anyone that does not live in the USA.[/QUOTE]You can get them unlocked free of charge if you are not a customer of Cricket or ATT and do not attempt to use the SIM provided with the phone (just take it out immediately). Yes, it is Windows operating system, which does not have Snapchat and one or two other apps, but all the same it is a phone at least equal to or better than the iPhone 4 for about $30, which is something to think about considering phones with similar capability have been bought by millions of people for $600 upwards within the last few years. Can be used for Whatsapp, Skype, Facebook, e-mail, texting, phone calls, navigation, Internet browsing, photography, music, Amazon, Spotify, etc.
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;1951495]Everybody get your hands up. It's a mother fucking thread jack!
Mr. WRX,
Let's start with simple definitions. I see an arrangement as no more than different type of relationship (I. E. Business relationship, friendship, competitor). And I now have a better understanding of how you are using the word USE (my question was intended to be rhetorical and was written in jest). I see that USE can be both mutual and desired.[/QUOTE]And I can see USE as mutual too. But I also know certain aspects of mutual USE may be or can be UNdesirable as well as desired.
[QUOTE]But is it really that hard to remember that if I'm nothing more than a walking ATM, then they are nothing more than cum depositories? For me personally, no! I have no problem remembering what Slick Rick had to say about the matter. And I'm quite comfortable with that type of relationship and all other types (presuming of course they lead to sex and my CPO stays within my targeted range).[/QUOTE]Understood in what's applicable to you. For other folks they may have their own interests, motivations within their relationships / arrangements. It might resemble yours to a certain degree, or may differ in other aspects.
[QUOTE]Now, it is the rare relationship that starts with both parties on an equal footing. (And yes I know you are a stickler for precise language. I read what you wrote. Continue to read on). Often times imbalance precipitates the initiation of the relationship in the first place. Mere circumstance can precipitate "unwanted imbalances" and by its very nature any "arrangement" is by it's very nature deceptive.[/QUOTE]Sounds reasonable to me up to the point before, "Mere circumstance can precipitate "unwanted imbalances" and by its very nature any "arrangement" is by it's very nature deceptive. In fact deception is required and demanded. ".
The thing though, I'm not simply a stickler when it comes to language. I pay attention to and apply CONTEXT and APPLICATION to information. By doing that, I try to see where something may be true in a certain context or application, and also where it may not be true or applicable in a different context or situation. I don't pay attention to only conclusions that are made, but also the foundation and criteria that is being used to support those conclusions. Your statement IMO is mainly applicable to a situation or situations that fit the criteria. In which you provide an example, that fits (further down in your post). Alone, without prequalifiers that general conclusion / statement may not exactly be valid in every relationship / arrangement.
Like, if we were to apply your statement to a different type of relationship / arrangement, it may not be applicable. For instance, a different mutual use relationship / arrangement. A boss and the bosses employee. (you can substitute man and woman if you choose to) That relationship can be considered something that does not start off on equal footing, right?. And yes there is an imbalance that initiates their relationship in the 1st place, Right?. In addition, mere circumstance during the course of their interaction can precipitate unwanted imbalances between them as well. But none of that means their arrangement is deceptive by it's very nature. And I will submit, unless I know the specifics of any particular relationship / arrangement (business or otherwise), including one between a man and a woman having sex, I can't conclude that the very nature of their arrangement is necessarily deceptive. Or that deception is required and demanded in that relationship/arrangement.
Just as we can come up with examples supporting what you said, I'm sure we can come up with examples of a relationships between a man and a woman where the arrangement is not by it's very nature deceptive. Here's one. My neighbor downstairs hired a chica to be his housekeeper, and his fuck buddy. He explained to her how much and when she was to get paid. She agreed to the arrangement. There were no specifics regarding when sex was to take place. I'm sure they "worked it out" on their own. So far, we have 2 mutually consenting adults on unequal footing, starting off imbalanced, and as far as I can surmise, mere circumstance may present some unwanted imbalances. Like perhaps she may not clean as well as he likes. Or maybe he fucks her too hard. Now here we have a relationship / arrangement which I think has all of the elements weve been talking about, but there is no deception (by the very nature of their arrangement) going on. So that's 2 different examples that may not apply to situations where there may be unwanted imbalances etc in that arrangement, but deception is not necessarily a variable involved.
My point is, anything can be relevant and valid if the critera supports the conclusion one is making. But when the criteria doesn't fit or certain variables are not there, then one should see a particular conclusion may not be applicable. Of course one can bypass knowing the details and decide to assume (often wrongly) whats going on. Which is often what a lot of folks do on the regular. Another way to put it.. The relationship or sex going on between a man and a woman does not inherently mean deception will be there or demanded. IE, guy goes to Blackbeards to see a particular chick there he likes to bang. He fucks her, pays his money, and goes back home to his wife. Unless I know specifics, there is nothing deceptive by the very nature of that business arrangement or demanded. Its just two consenting adults mutually using each other. Now what he tells his wife on the other hand, thats another story. Or whatever his wife tells him of what she was doing why he was away.
[QUOTE]GFE: when when the individual damn well knows she is not your fucking girlfriend and you have no intention on being her fucking boyfriend but the expectation or demand is that her performance is good enough to trick the higher brain functions into believing that is the case. I am uncertain how anyone who says they got it can deny that they were deceived or that they simply chose to be deceived in order to achieve the experience. The only way that that type of interaction could happen without deception is if GFE is defined in terms of specific behaviors.[/QUOTE]This example matches your premise. The thing I was trying to emphasize is that the behavior of both parties may define the arrangement and it's course. If you have two parties not even operating on that level of GFE, pretend GF etc, and it's just business, there may not be any innate deception.
We know from experience that certain behavior between men and women, there can be deception. What I'm pointing out though, is that there can be relationships / arrangements between two parties where there is no deception by it's very nature or a demand for it. If a man has a 3 some and pays each what is agreed on, does that mean deception was involved just by the nature of their relationship / arrangement? NO, not necessarily. Mind you I'm not saying deception can't occur at all, I'm just saying deception is not necessarily something that happens by the nature of their arrangement / relationship. The example you provided I can see the application within that context. But not in a general business arrangement/relationship.
[QUOTE]It is also rare that a certain amount of deception does not creep into every relationship.[/QUOTE]Given the criteria that fits, I can agree with that. Where it is not applicable I just don't apply it. Lying/deception is something folks do even if it has no impact for or against the association / arrangement / relationship. So the question can be, how much impact does any deception going on have on the relationship or either party? Can there be deception that has zero impact one way or the other? IMO, yes. So we know deception is practiced. Question though? Does it cause conflict in every instance? Not always. Some deception is acceptable, even tolerable.
[QUOTE]The idea of added complexity to me seems like a given as the parties in relationships are not machines and that is exactly what makes the relationships we enter into interesting in the first place. Or maybe not. As the raging debate that seems to be on going about mongering techniques seems to illustrate.[/QUOTE]Yes, interesting is one aspect of outcome one may experience. In addition, frustration, boredom, excitement and the list is endless are just a few others.
I have a buddy, and an ex co worker that used to do this. They would ask people questions. And then they would give you their multiple choice answers. The irony with that, is that very often there were more choices than the ones they gave you to pick from. I've laughed at them internally many times, and outwardly shared with them; . Why don't you just ask me the question, and let me choose my own answers or give my own perspective? Especially since my answer may be more thorough.
This kinda reminds me of our discussion on the sharing of information, giving and receiving advice. What I've noticed, is that very often folks have a script, a perspective. And when they relate to others they operate from their script, and they kinda expect others to follow suit. But when the individuals they relate to end up having a totally different perspective, or approach it is difficult for some to include that other persons perspective as being relevant and valid in a different context or situation.
So folks that are like that only see things from their vantage point, and when it comes to other people, they have an indifference or disconnect when it comes to others operating differently or having their own perspective. In fact, in some instances they may not even care to know the other persons perspective deep down. And because they do not ask for feedback, or if they do ask, they still work from their script for others to follow. They never get to know the interest, motivations or passions of another. And that's why a person like that may ask a question and offer their multiple choice answers instead of just allowing the person to explain how they see it.
One reason may be, the person offering answers has a hard time accepting a perspective that doesn't jive with their own. If you have ever observed some of my rough back and forth exchanges with a few people on this board, then you might know what I'm talking about. 2 in particular always had a habit of trying to reinterpret wrongly the context of my posts, falsely assign how I supposedly felt, and then argue with me based on the contrived information that they created. Its like they invented their own adversary and I was used as a representative. So I ended up going back and forth with them. Some people paid attention to the battle, but not how it started. And why should they? It wasnt happening to them. I guess, no I know I enjoyed it. It was entertainment.
The two guys I mentioned, my ex co worker and my buddy? It was funny the look they had on their faces when I didn't accept the choices they offered, but had my own choices. They had that deer in the headlights look. They even seemed frustrated with me, like I was being difficult or not playing fair. If I'm a stickler for something, I guess you can say I do not allow anyone to assign my feelings or perspective to me. If you want to know how I feel, then let me express myself. If my perspective does not follow the script one has for me, then so be it. Thats their problem, not mine. If I tell them that's not my POV, and they turn it around and act like I have a problem, there will be a problem.
I want to be understood and I am willing to include and accept the other parties perspective for understanding. But when it becomes a challenge instead of for seeking mutual understanding, I want no parts of that. When two parties can articulate each others perspective correctly, and accept it, then a better understanding and relationship can emerge. You wanna measure whether or not someone really understands your POV or is really listening? Ask them to repeat back what they understood of what you said, and you do the same. People usually find out right then and there, that the other person really has no clue what your POV is.
They have their own interpretation which doesnt match yours. Thats because they are working from their script , concentrating on making the communication a challenge rather than seeking mutual understanding. Asking for feedback can help correct misinterpretations and misunderstandings. If that were their MO. Often that isnt their goal. BTW what I just shared has nothing to do with our exchange. I just thought it would be interesting to share and add clarity in how I perceive some aspects of communication.
[QUOTE=Frannie;1951583]You can get them unlocked free of charge if you are not a customer of Cricket or ATT and do not attempt to use the SIM provided with the phone (just take it out immediately). Yes, it is Windows operating system, which does not have Snapchat and one or two other apps, but all the same it is a phone at least equal to or better than the iPhone 4 for about $30, which is something to think about considering phones with similar capability have been bought by millions of people for $600 upwards within the last few years. Can be used for Whatsapp, Skype, Facebook, e-mail, texting, phone calls, navigation, Internet browsing, photography, music, Amazon, Spotify, etc.[/QUOTE]Mr. Frannie,
Are you actually speaking from experience of using the phone yourself or having given it as a gift and received feedback on it's qualities? Are your statements simply based on your personal opinions or reviewing stats on paper? Have you actually owned a iPhone 4 (the one that you are comparing it too)?
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;1952140]Mr. Frannie,
Are you actually speaking from experience of using the phone yourself or having given it as a gift and received feedback on it's qualities? Are your statements simply based on your personal opinions or reviewing stats on paper? Have you actually owned a iPhone 4 (the one that you are comparing it too)?[/QUOTE]Yes, I have owned more than one of the phones, unlocked them free of charge, given them as gifts, owned an iPhone 5, which was about equal except in battery life where the Lumia 640 was much better. Also in my opinion better as you can add as much memory as you like with an SD card for very little money. How about you?
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;1952140]Mr. Frannie,
Are you actually speaking from experience of using the phone yourself or having given it as a gift and received feedback on it's qualities? Are your statements simply based on your personal opinions or reviewing stats on paper? Have you actually owned a iPhone 4 (the one that you are comparing it too)?[/QUOTE]I bought one of the Lumia phones based on Frannie's suggestion, I bought it two years ago unlocked on Ebay for something like $50. I think and it has worked flawlessly for me in the DR and Colombia. I was impressed enough that I bought a second one this year but a newer model. I also own a $700. Factory unlocked Iphone 6's but am perfectly happy using the Lumia phones and the Windows operating system.
Court is in session. The Honorable Grand Jefe is presiding. The question before the court today is: "Can a $30 phone really be as good as phones costing over 20 times as much?
The written arguments have been previously presented to the court.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1952108]There is no way you would be able to pass one of those cheap ass old phones on a Brazilian that guys say they are giving to Dominicans. They are much too sophisticated for that.[/QUOTE]Well that is some good information to have. I guess if you are the type of guy that likes to rock the thrift shop chic Macklemore style: "I'm going to pop some tags. Only got twenty dollars in my pocket". Then you are dead on. Functionality aside that makes a lot of sense to me especially since a phone is much more than just a communication device. OK, I will stipulate that they work great but do they make great gifts? The definitive answer to that question is "it depends".
But then again I think Macklemore makes another good argument that is supported by comments from other posters.
"They be like, "Oh, that Gucci. That's hella tight. ". I'm like, "Yo. That's fifty dollars for a T-shirt. ". Limited edition, let's do some simple addition. Fifty dollars for a T-shirt. That's just some ignorant * (shit). I call that getting swindled and pimped (shit). I call that getting tricked by a business. That shirt's hella dough. And having the same one as six other people in this club is a hella don't. Peep game, come take a look through my telescope. Tryna get girls from a brand? Man you hella won't. Man you hella won't".
[QUOTE=Frannie;1951583]but all the same it is a phone at least equal to or better than the iPhone 4 for about $30, which is something to think about considering phones with similar capability have been bought by millions of people for $600 upwards within the last few years. [/QUOTE][QUOTE=Manizales911;1952820]I was impressed enough that I bought a second one this year but a newer model. I also own a $700. Factory unlocked Iphone 6's but am perfectly happy using the Lumia phones and the Windows operating system.[/QUOTE]Certainly something to think about.
Court is adjourned. All rise!
[QUOTE=Dickhead;1938842]Anybody who really loves pussy has to go to Paraguay. That is the best pussy on the planet. However, it is best experienced out of its native environment because other than pussy, Paraguay sucks. I strongly encourage all mongers to seek out paraguayas in places like Spain and Argentina. I've even found them in Amsterdam.[/QUOTE]Buenos Aires is great place to find beautiful Paraguayanas, without going to Paraguay. Agree that You may get the best GFE from these girls.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1944053]We got to Terra Linda at 10:38 and the guy said the kitchen was closed. Well what time do you close? 11 pm. So how the hell is the kitchen closed? Dominican logic. We went to NY Pizza and they were not going to make anything else either. The girl said that because of the early closing time of the bars, they close early too.[/QUOTE]After spending some time in the Dominican Republic, I returned to my country of origin. One of the most interesting things for me has been observing the difference in the way things get done in the Dominican Republic and my country of origin: Untied States of America. My base operations is: Las Vegas.
One night I went to a Church's chicken and ordered some chicken strips. I was told they were closed. I asked what time did the close. They say 9:30 PM. It was 9:25 PM. I inquired what was the deal and was told the cook turned of the fryers early and they could not prepare more chicken. I was provided with apologies and then it was let's make a deal. He began to offer chicken as bargain prices. Without going through the details of the negotiation I wound up leaving the place with 10 pieces of chicken three sides and some biscuits for about a $2. 00 more than I was going to pay for my original strip meal.
Least you think that it was a one off occasion. I return again a couple of weeks later. This time calling myself smart by arriving a 9:00 PM. This time my chicken strip dinner was available but no biscuits. Substituted two apple pies for my biscuit. Figured as long as I didn't get both apple pies probable wind up with the same damage to my metabolic system.
I have a friend who works for a quick serve restaurant. He a friend that works for a quick serve restaurant right next door. It was about thirty minutes before closing when my friend was there. His friend said watch this. His friend announced via the loud speaker that they could only take cash as the credit card machine had gone down. My friend was confused and asked how can you keep operating if that happens. He explained that the computer system in his restaurant was unified cash and credit. He friend explained to him that theirs were also. He said that they do this when they want to be able to close on time. And they both watched as about half the cars waiting to order backed out of the line and left.
Another night my friend, now being hip to the work avoidance moves of poorly supervised staff, was in his usual Denny's for take out order. He was told that he would not be able to place an order because they did not have any take out boxes available to pack his meal. He told them that was an excellent way to avoid work. The hostess stuttered and stammered until he laughed and decided to go another location.
Dominican Logic? I think not.
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;1954401]Untied States of America. My base operations is: Las Vegas.
One night I went to a Church's chicken and ordered some chicken strips. I was told they were closed. I asked what time did the close. They say 9:30 PM. It was 9:25 PM. I inquired what was the deal and was told the cook turned of the fryers early and they could not prepare more chicken. I was provided with apologies and then it was let's make a deal. He began to offer chicken as bargain prices. Without going through the details of the negotiation I wound up leaving the place with 10 pieces of chicken three sides and some biscuits for about a $2. 00 more than I was going to pay for my original strip meal.[/QUOTE]Same shit happened to me at Church's in Atlanta. They didn't have what I wanted because they were closing. Dude gave me a bunch of other shit that was left and said just give me $2.
This is a thread to discuss the named topics and share my adventures here in the Dominican Republic (DR). A catch all place for things that just don't fit into the action packed threads of the different cities that are focused solely on the pro action. Cultural observations, philosophy, economics, game, chica psychology, negotiation, and anything else that leads to getting the panties on the floor action (POF) that we are all looking for.
When I post and use the term arrangement I'm using it in reference to Sugar Baby / Sugar Daddy arrangements or any other transaction sexual arrangements between a male and female. There is a huge quantity of information previously posted where the discussions are focused on that issue. I didn't think I needed to explain that given the name and nature of this forum.
My last trip to Sosua was before it's style and structure was somewhat modified by the controlling legal / political entities that are currently in place. I wrote about my adventures with a chapiadora. A review of that post will reveal that particular arrangement fit my modified hypothesis that most arrangements are deceptive. But, I also saw two more girls on day two and three.
The girl on day two was one that I met on the street while walking around Sosua. She was new in town and she had a female escort showing he the ropes and doing the talking. It was early in the trip and I was not read to make a move so I took her number and said I'the get back to her. That afternoon my travel partner was wife up and on an adventure to Caberete. I had passed my check ride and he had given me permission to fly solo. The weather was iffy so I was in to interest in heading out to the track to hunt / fish / prowl / troll or any of the other colorful metaphors used to describe the simple process of finding a ho, fucking a ho, paying a ho.
That afternoon I was texting a ho. Me: Hey ho, you available. Ho: yes; Me: I'm in this hotel. Can you meet me in the lobby? Ho: Yes; Me: When? Ho: In one hour. Me: See you then. One hour later I go to the lobby with my cell phone, because this is the Dominican Republic and ho's are never on time. So, I'm just chilling in the lobby and killing time on my cell phone waiting on a ho. So, I'm "posted up in the lobby" I believe that's the term. And I decide to see what cell phone camera can really do. So without moving, I document other mongers doing their monger thing without ever moving from my "post". Ho shows and we go to the desk. She leaves her cedula. And we start walking to the room.
We have never discussed price so I'm thinking this is as good of time as any to bring it up. Me: How much? Ho: This is Sosua and the price is set. It's 2000 pesos. Me: No, love it's what every we decide works for us. Ho: I want 2000 pesos. Me: Ok, but I get to bust two nuts. Ho: No, 2000 for one nut. Me: If I only get to bust one nut then it's 1500 pesos. Ho: She says no 2000 pesos. We were leisurely walking and talking that entire time. And we get to the door and I have my key out. We are standing there and I pause. And at the time I didn't know this but I was about to use a WRX communication method. Ho: I want 2000 pesos for one nut. Me: 2000 pesos for two nuts, 1500 pesos for one nut, or we can go our separate ways right here and now. Yes, that right, I threw in another option. Had my own "choices" so to speak. And then silence. As I learned in sales training after the closing question: wait. And so I did. And we stood there in silence as she pondered my offer. The she took a deep breath. Rolled her eyes and said: OK. Operator: We're in!
Now, I'm of those old guys, Spanish is bad, mind is going, don't read or spell so good, and couldn't logically reason my way out of wet paper bag. In fact, if I didn't have Mr. GoGo to drive me out of there I'the probably still be wondering around in circles. I'm a Sexpat. But that trip I was a sexual tourist. And delighted to be one at that. I'm just so happy to get some pussy that all that talk about CBJ, BBBJ, GFE, PSE does not matter to me. I'm looking for he. Ho experience. That's the straight forward, honest no hassle transaction sexual experience that seems to be the ideal but don't read much about. So, I don't get into all of that stuff during negotiations. It's what's the price? How many nuts do I get? Agreement and let the adventure begin.
I'm thinking as we enter the room that this probably going to be a problem. But it wasn't. She was an absolute sweetheart that was from Santo Domingo. She gave me BBBJ that was so good I had to make her stop before I busted in her mouth. Pounded that thing doggie style. She was a petite little thing but she could take some dick. I busted my nut and she was like is that all. I said yep. She gave me that Staples tag line look: That was easy. And it was. We got dressed. No GFE but hey, I don't look for that when I'm ho hunting. Stick and move. Straight fucking no kissing is fine for me. The excitement of the first time fuck is all the stimulation I need.
She asked if I sold hair. I told her yes. She asked to see it. And it pulled out my sample pieces. She declared the quality to be good (because it is). I paid her and she was on her way. It was a simple straight forward and dare I say "honest" transaction sexual experience. When in Rome mother fuckers! You know the rest.
This is useful sharing of information. And I lead by example. Simply taking issue with people in order to stimulate your mind when you don't have a ho on your dick really does not serve any purpose. I've leaned so much from a few people here. And absolutely nothing from most. I stay focused on the information posted here that is going to get me laid while creating the least amount of problems for self. Grownman said he does not immerse himself in Dominican Culture. And why should he? He knows all he needs to know to accomplish his goals when he is in country. He knows Dominican Ho Game!
I've got nothing to prove. And that goes triple for when the person taking issue with my statements is not adding any usable knowledge to the forum. Because this is not a scholarly journal, debate club, or oral arguments before the court. But when we use examples or better yet actual experiences when we share information helps us all. In other words, information on the Ho's helps us all to get our dick wet. When principles are proffered there's not point in taking issue with them unless they are completely misleading.
Take for example my discussion with WRX on deception. My only concern at the diatribe being spouted ad nauseum distracts from the purpose the forum I started. But engaging in those discussions on occasion keeps the synapses in my brain firing and is good exercise similar to the mornings I play tennis. It was totally useless in my opinion. And I really don't give a fuck about it.
But my larger message that was lost in the minutiae of a war of definitions was deception more often than not is the core issue of that seems to be the fly in the ointment of what should be a fairly straight forward transaction and experience is deception. That was my original message. But I hardly thought I would find myself in an Allen Iverson like situation where the future hall of fame basketball player was being castigated over "practice". Substitute the word "any" for me.
It's more important to me to spend time discussing scenarios that other have experienced that could lead to danger signs. Mr. GoGo's posts are an excellent example this. Describing his experiences along with the activities and actions of the Ho's. The collective sharing and that type of writing within the group allow us to form principles that we pick and choose based on our style of mongering.
Guys,
Any contact with semi pros in Ft. Lauderdale / Miami that you are willing to share?
[QUOTE=TripAdvisor16;1954992]Guys,
Any contact with semi pros in Ft. Lauderdale / Miami that you are willing to share?[/QUOTE]I've got nothing for you man. But if you come to Santo Domingo hola.
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;1955065]I've got nothing for you man. But if you come to Santo Domingo hola.[/QUOTE]Will do and thanks.
Source DR1:
The annual Afro descent Festival organized by the Plataforma Dominicana de Afrodescendientes, the Dominican Committee for the Slaves Route / Unesco and the Centro Cultural de Espaa in Santo Domingo is underway.
The program opened with a lecture and concert at the Centro Cultural de Espaa on Thursday, 27 October and continues on Friday, 28 October in Boca de Nigua with daytime visits to the Boca de Nigua sugar mill, and in the afternoon a workshop at the Centro Cultural de Espaa.
On Saturday, 29 October, there will be an exhibition by artist Geo Ripley accompanied by the Congos de Villa Mella, Guloyas de San Pedro de Macors, Tony * and Jos Duluc, Gag del Batey Bienvenido, among others.
To close the festival, on Sunday 30, in the morning there will be a talk on the historical impact of the rebellion of black slaves at Boca de Nigua, an exhibition of curly hairstyles, and an atabales music performance. In the evening there will be performances by LOS Soneros de Haina, Enerolisa why la Salves de Mata LOS Indios, Folklor Imaginario with Rafaelito Mirabal, Fell Vega, Quiqui Curiel, among others.
[URL]http://ccesd.org/2016/09/afrodescenciafest/[/URL]
I watched a segment on This is life with Lisa Ling on CNN. It was about legal brothels in Nevada. A woman was denied a licence to be a prostitute in one of the counties because she was behind on child support.
For me that is the best example of government regulation to the point of nonsense within the US.
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;1962982]I watched a segment on This is life with Lisa Ling on CNN. It was about legal brothels in Nevada. A woman was denied a licence to be a prostitute in one of the counties because she was behind on child support.
For me that is the best example of government regulation to the point of nonsense within the US.[/QUOTE]Why is that? To me it shows that the law is being applied evenly across the gender line. If a male is behind on child support then neither is he allowed to obtain a license or passport. It is only right for the same thing to apply to a female.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1962985]Why is that? To me it shows that the law is being applied evenly across the gender line. If a male is behind on child support then neither is he allowed to obtain a license or passport. It is only right for the same thing to apply to a female.[/QUOTE]Mr. E,
I usually have mad respect for your views but not this time. This is an example of severe government overreach into the lives of average Americans and furthermore is a most highly illogical regulation that is unfortunately becoming more and more pervasive throughout the US.
In this particular case, the government is denying her the most basic and fundamental right in the US. The right to work! They are denying her the opportunity to have a occupational licence to earn the money she could use to pay child support. Furthermore, since the government knows that a bunch of horny mother fuckers are going to be paying her a lot of money for her sexual services, the government has the opportunity to contact the organization where she is going to be earning the money and require them to withhold the amount they deem necessary.
For the sake of argument, I'll overlook the fact that the only attempt to open a male brothel failed, therefore making this a unique situation only being applied to women. Please provide an example to support your premise that this simply an example of the law being applied evenly across the gender line. Give me an example where a man is denied the opportunity to earn money or denied a occupational licence because he behind on child support. It should also be noted that this is a law specific to a county within Nevada. But, if you wish you can provide an example anywhere within the State of Nevada or any other State within the US simply to illustrate the general premise of your statement.
I yield the floor to Mr. E.
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3144-Mr-Gogo-in-the-Dominican-Republic[/URL]
That is exactly what this person is doing. The case is not closed. Only the mind of the writer.
His so called "decent" Dominican friends are the ones with the money, power and influence to make a profound impact on the social conditions, laws and behaviors that he writes about. Yet they, just like him have chosen instead simply to reap the benefits of operating in the upper class while looking down at those who are struggling within the country where they live the good life.
During my time living here I have found that attitude to be pervasive to an extreme with those that have money. In my opinion, most of the people with money here have those attitudes (as do many of the rich around the world I might add). This is not just my opinion, but is an opinion that has been expressed to me by other Dominicans that I am in contact with. This particular writer is equating decency (having money) with a set of social norms that he has observed, defines and has decided to live by. He loses complete credibility with me by saying my friends and I fuck around but we don't do it with known prostitutes, in known prostitute towns while drinking also. OK. Now, how does that make the writer better than the average sexual tourist? Is it a double standard? I'll leave that as and exercise for the reader.
The attitude the writer illustrates to me a near sociopaths lack of caring for those who live as Mr. Frannie pointed out: "Of course a lot of things are cheaper in the DR, but consumer goods are not, medicines are not, gasoline is not, cooking gas is not, nutrients like milk powder for babies are not. Few people in the DR have air conditioning in their homes in the stifling heat, and even if they have electric fans to sleep at night, the power often goes out. When people cook with gas in their kitchens, the heat and humidity of the whole apartment becomes unbearable".
The writer does not need a lecture. The writer needs a surgical consult for a heart transplant.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1962985]Why is that? To me it shows that the law is being applied evenly across the gender line. If a male is behind on child support then neither is he allowed to obtain a license or passport. It is only right for the same thing to apply to a female.[/QUOTE]Right, but it makes no sense to deprive either men or women of occupational licenses, otherwise how are they going to pay the arrears of child support? Inherit the money, cash in some investments, steal it, win the lottery?
[QUOTE=Frannie;1963176]Right, but it makes no sense to deprive either men or women of occupational licenses, otherwise how are they going to pay the arrears of child support? Inherit the money, cash in some investments, steal it, win the lottery?[/QUOTE]But it makes sense for them to deprive their child? Were they paying or attempting to pay the shit before they needed the license? More than likely not. Because if they were then the shit would not have gone that far. It takes a while for the arrears to hit the system to the effect that you are not able to obtain or keep your license. The shit is not overnight. There is no late today, no license tomorrow. It is more ain't paid in a few months, 3 or 4 warning letters, bye bye license. So it is their own damn fault.
I was not arguing whether the law should exist or not. I was saying that since the law does exist, it is nice to know that they are applying it to everyone and not just one gender, one race, or one economic group.
My problem with the post is that it popped up after a woman could not get a license for fucking. What about all the guys that couldn't get whatever type of license before this? That law did not start this year, so why get up in arms all of a sudden?
My cousin has been behind on child support in Georgia for years. When they finally cut his license and passport off 2 years ago, he was living overseas in Malaysia where his wife is from. He went to the embassy to get more visa pages and they revoked his passport.
Fast forward to August 8 this year. I took him down to the court because he was making arrangements to get his shit together. It is a good thing that I went with him. We were about to leave and I said did you ask him about getting your license back? He had forgotten. So he went back to the guy and asked about his license and passport. The guy gave him a paper to fill out so he could get his license back, but told him that they will not let you get another passport until you are current on your child support.
So there. It is not a big deal. If you have made arrangements to take care of your debt then you will have no problem getting the license. But if you just say fuck it I am not worried about paying that shit then hey. Know the law and how it works before you start crying foul.
[QUOTE=Frannie;1963176]Right, but it makes no sense to deprive either men or women of occupational licenses, otherwise how are they going to pay the arrears of child support? Inherit the money, cash in some investments, steal it, win the lottery?[/QUOTE]In this particular case you are right Mr. Frannie. By his own admission Mr. E has failed to address if is good law or not. In the example given by Mr. E, he has also failed to address if it was a occupational license that was denied due to child support arrears. So, Mr. E has essentially provided a non answer and failed to address the point of the original post, one that I might add, you understood completely.
Understanding the law and equal application of the law was never the issue. This is another example of paradigm and grandstanding taking precedent over actual discussion of the issue at hand.
Driver: Guillermo
Based in Santo Domingo.
Speaks English, French and Spanish.
Full Disclosure: Last time I used him he had a late model mini van with air conditioning. I get nothing from this recommendation. I will not receive any kickbacks, free rides or special consideration of any type. We have worked together since I moved to the island over two years ago. He is not the cheapest but I have found him to be reliable. If you have further questions hit me on the back channel.
Google: Gimnasio Bar Privado Santo Domingo. First link that comes up with give you list of casa locations. Second link is an actual map of locations.
[QUOTE=Wrx2005;1969032]I meant to say rarely "charted" territory, not "unchartered" territory.[/QUOTE]Professor Wrx2005,
If they were exploring by sea, they would be using charts. If they were exploring by air, they would be using charts. But if they were exploring by land they would be using maps. So when were you in a hurry? When you wrote your first post or in the one where you were responding to me? You acknowledged your error. But you didn't seem to be able to get that part right in either post.
Unlike you, I don't need to offer "olive branches" as this is not war. Unlike you, I was not looking for some "golden opportunity" (unless it involves pussy) as this is not a debate club (at least not for me). And unlike you, I am not interested in making sure everything written here is perfect. Furthermore, I don't have to communicate in a way that you find most effective or pleasing (or anyone else for that matter). It's unfortunate that as grown men writing about grown up things I have to address issues like this. But sometimes when people "go rogue" it's necessary.
"And I make that pussy tap out, I knock that pussy out cold. Nigga you get beat the crap out but that's just how the dice roll. These hoes want that hose pipe, so I give all these hoes pipe. She get on that dick and stay on, all night like porch lights" - "Rich as Fuck", Little Wayne.
Last night I was not proofreading my posts looking for errors of word uses in case WRX finds them. No, my time is too important for that. I was out on the town with a lovely non-pro chica. It was her birthday and we had great time. We had dinner on the water and drinks and snacks on rich side of town. Those who fly first class, have ocean view apartments, and gran jefe mobiles can do that sort of thing and not worry about how it affects the budget. (or greater social interactions between men and women for that matter). And when we were back at HER apartment, trust me when I say that golden opportunity was not missed nor did I fuck it up. Actually that's a lie. I fucked it up, down, left, right, on the floor, bed, standing against the wall and bent over the kitchen cabinet in the morning.
Can somebody please call 911? I think she broke my dick!
Thank you for the opportunity to address why (as the moderator) I deleted most of our exchange. I didn't delete our entire exchange. Only the parts where you failed to add any useful information. I left the posts where you actually made a contribution to the objectives of the forum here. You are not in the position to know what is within anyone else's mind. Yet you state what I'm going to do, when I am going to do it and why. Have you actually read anything in my forum other than your own work? I can find any number of exchanges within my forum that have not gone "to my satisfaction" but they are still there. Since you are speaking for the people for the forum now: Why have they stopped engaging me in one on one discourse? And since they have exactly what does that say?
Now before you answer, please note that I don't give a fuck why. If someone, anyone, even if only one person reads something in my forum that helps them enjoy their time on the island better then I'm happy. I don't need anyone to tell me it helped them. I don't need anybody to reply to me. I don't need to make a bunch of posts that don't contain any useful information order to run up my post count. As for the forum being dead my man that's your interpretation. The forum is focused. The focus of my forum is contained in the name. Since most who live on the island or come to the island don't focus on the things I do why would they post in my forum. Prostitutes are very popular here. The Sosua forum is very active. But even with all that activity it contains very little useful information as of late. I do not judge the quality of my discourse in volumes of words used or post count.
I'm glad you think I'm special, but I wonder how you know this as you have never even met me. Oh, BTW I enjoyed our PM exchange also. Resolved or unresolved, it was not a problem for me (think my tennis analogy). Feel free to publish them similar to Mr. E if you would like. Take a moment and actually read the other forums on ISG. The lack of civility (bordering on sociopathic behavior) does not occur on other forums. It's a unique aspect driven by the cast of critics that populate the Dominican Republic forum. They don't count. I'm a man in the arena!
Mr. Oakie said it best and he has it right!
[QUOTE=Oakie;1971687]Folks on this forum are so adversarial now I think it is more about ego than sharing actual experiences. It is basically a pissing match with some posters who will adopt any opinion, no matter how inconsistent, to deride others who are perceived to be a threat to their ego, street cred, rep, their worldview, whatever.
With these would be moderators on the prowl, checking everything from your grammar, language, to the price you pay, and even the propina you give a local, (not necessary they whine, because you could be "spoiling the monger market", with your generosity, reminding you of their "monger's code"[/QUOTE]Reference made to the following post:
[QUOTE=Wrx2005;1971683]Some folks can't handle or admit being wrong or shown their errors, successfully. He deleted an entire exchange between him and I for that reason. Not because it didn't meet the objective of the forum. And it wasn't like it was in Sosua Reports, it was in his personally moderated forum. Further, he is the one who copies information from another forum to address you in his. So if there was a problem with anybodies post/focus not meeting his objective, he shouldn't have copied their post from another forum to address them in his?
Now if the exchange doesn't go according to his satisfaction, chances are the entire exchange will be deleted anyway. Because he cannot delete your exchange in this forum, the damage control effort is gonna be unrelenting. So have fun..[/QUOTE]
From DR1:
"In an article sponsored by the Banco Popular Dominicano, several newspapers are talking about a new application called Costa Dominicana, which is available for iPhones and Android devices. The app covers 133 beaches, 18 of which are shown in virtual reality. Sponsored by the BPD, the content is based on the work of agricultural engineer Domingo Marte, who traveled from the mouth of the Dajabon River in Montecristi (northwest) to the mouth of the Pedernales River on the southwestern coast. Most of this was done on foot or by boat and covered the 227 beaches along the Dominican coastline. The app encourages everyone to emulate Domingo Marte and explore the coastline. The app filters beaches by geographical region and allows the user to find out if there are any options such as the availability of food nearby, or whether access is easy or difficult and finally what kind of infrastructure is available. The app is synchronized with Google Maps, which allows the user to select the best route for reaching a new beach. "
This a great idea and I love the beach. But downloaded the app onto my iPhone and it didn't work.
In every pussy that I go.
The ho's are reducing fees.
For regular gringos like me.
And I still get to cum in their mouth!
I say this because two ho's that I had not seen before because they were asking 3000 pesos and 4000 pesos respectively, told me they would see me for 1500 pesos and 2000 pesos respectively because it was "navidad" and they needed money to buy gifts.
How lovely!
The SubCmdr sends you his greetings from Santo Domingo where the pussy is wet, where we go hard and deep in the pussy and where the men in the arena know the critics do not count! Taking a break from going hard in the pussy and busting nut all over their faces. Cause you know these hoes want that hose pipe, so we give all these hoes pipe, we hope she gets on that dick and stays on, all night like porch lights, that's right! One of my brothers sent me this:
"I dreamed during my recent visit to the Capitol that I spirited off to one the cabanas in north Malecon where several choices are available. It's So much thanks for sharing a UTR, that's under-the-radar, phone number, photos and contact.
Of three potential contacts, she was the first to discuss a reasonable service arrangement - 2500 plus 500 add on for a specific service. Now that arrangement upset the others who asked for more, but negotiated down when the offer was serious, especially when I shared that a slow response means there is no interest. Such arrangements prevent golden-pussy syndrome and the usual haggling. And the next time an offer to dream comes up the lady knows how far to push before the deal goes away.
A curvy girl with no fat, she crawled up on me and laid those puppies in my face. Nice eraser nipples. Kissing was off limits and no desire to play around. All service covered. No oral, and little discussion and lots of spit lube, she mounted reverse cowgirl with experience evident as she knelt on one knee with the other leg flat-footed on the bed. Loud moans were fake and Oscar quality. After about ten she switched to regular cowgirl with the same technique before a quick jump off awaiting instruction. I had asked for BBBJCIM as part of the deal, but denied, until a reminder about the add-on bonus. Off to the bathroom to wash first, she got to business with good but predictable technique, tired easily and didn't understand my need for aggressive head. Once communication improved she turned into suckzilla and developed a rhythm to finish the job, catch the evidence and then off to the bathroom.
Totally satisfied I laid back on the bed and commented that I was at full mast. Unusual with an absent prostate, she made it clear round #2 which was not on the menu. We rested a little bit, laid beside each other and tried to DATY receiving much resistance. She reluctantly consented to a tease contest. Some flicking of the tongue and a finger teasing her vajay produced some now realistic soft moans until her hips began to gyrate in slow motion. She became dripping wet, grabbed my hand and pushed the finger deep into her, lifted up her hips and went into vajay convulsions. She wasn't expecting that and just laid back and pushed my head away. Battle won.
Pros: Semi pro UTR by reference only. Natural curves and no scars. Rides the pony at champion quality. Can follow instructions. With reminders, stuck to negotiated fee without add ONS.
Cons: Was not ready for our appointment and was 90 minutes late for our appointment. Did not follow instructions well to link up at the appointed place. Agreed to pre-paid taxi fare home, but left the cab when I did and insisted I pay the driver. Stupid Gringo syndrome?
Provided digits. Would recommend but negotiate rate and if late for service. Move on. "
Ah shit! Seems like my brother caught some push back from a ho. Seems she may be a little more pro and a little less semi than she initially let on. But mos def UTR. That's what we working wit here. Did a ho lie to me to get what she wanted? No? Say it isn't so. Santo Domingo is not hard. Did you bust a nut my brother? Yes, you did. Can I get a quote from a brother? "Totally satisfied". Word! Nah, two words! You had to take the scenic route, but sometimes the journey is the reward.
But I understand that's not what you are looking for when you are on a time schedule my man. I get that. My apologies to a brother for the ho being late and running the taxi scam. I know I should try the pussy out before I make the recommendation. Cause dis ho def is not making a brother look good in the eyes of another brother. But there is so much pussy here in Santo Domingo and I just don't have enough time to run up in all of it! Give a brother another chance and I'll hook you up with more digits the next time you are running through Santo Domingo on a mission to blow backs out!
The SubCmdr is out but with the following message: If a chica spreads her legs for you and you didn't have any fun, it was your own damn fault!
Drops the microphone and walks off the stage to thunderous applause!
A girl I know came over to my place. She swept my floors, mopped my floors, got down on her hands and knees and scrubbed every square meter of my floors (and balcony) and then mopped my floors again. It was a six hours process. Now I was not standing over her telling her what to do. I explained to her what I wanted (in my poor Spanish since this has been pointed out by the numerous linguistic experts in both English and Spanish here. In face I'm sure this post contains some kind of grammatical or spelling error that is sending at least one of you into a apoplectic fit.) and she took it from there. I left her in my apartment while I went shopping on the rich side of town (I'm just a poor gringo trying to make it). I was gone about four of the those six hours. Nothing was missing. And after she completed her work she asked if I had any other for her. Which I did not at the time. But told her she could count on returning one time each month for same work. She agreed to do that and thanked me when I paid her. I paid her 500 pesos plus 100 pesos for transportation.
Today my view of the ocean is great and my floors, well my floors are sparking. In fact, I'm sitting at my desk right now writing this being bathed in sunlight and occasionally peering out my million dollar (US) view.
So, the next time one of you sexual tourist motherfuckers is arguing with some chica over the money they want to fuck you or lamenting the poor sexual performance you received, keep in mind that the individual you are dealing with is lazy and of poor character. Because most women in the Dominican Republic are not prostitutes. If fact, most are hard working individuals trying to make it under circumstances that would break most people. If you didn't know any of this before, now you know.
*The exchange rate today 01/20/2017 is 46.41 to the dollar.
[QUOTE=CharlesPooter;1988744]Sosua is not the best DR location to find the sort of chica you (and I) prefer, but it is doable. Most of the girls are take-the-money and run types. If you apply your philosophy of "keep trying until you get what you want" indiscriminately you could end up wasting a lot of money.
If you like black girls, many ex-pats and repeat visitors have learned to prefer haitianas to dominicanas because of their generally better attitude.[/QUOTE]Mr. CP,
I find it interesting that you are providing the information on Sosua when many of the self promoting experts are saying nothing. Just an observation. But you are dead on about your assessment of the type of women you find in Sosua. But they do serve their purpose.
Now, I've had two Haitians and they fucked good (no doubt about that) but they played way more games with me than the Dominicans. So maybe it was just the type of girls I hooked up with. One was out of Batay in Boca Chica and the other was a Facebook hit here in Santo Domingo. I do prefer black woman (actually as long as they are butter pecan or darker that works for me. But I've found that the dark Dominicans are the best. They are very appreciative because they are neglected by Dominican men. My experience is that they will serve your every need with a smile.
Dominican dudes are conflicted in this area. They want white babies and to be seen with a white girl to increase their street value. But they will will fuck and run on a smoking hot dark Dominican girl in a minute. Grab one and hit the streets with her and she will turn heads everywhere she goes. I find it interesting. Just last night my girl was entering my apartment building ahead of me and a guy that lives in the building tried to talk to her. Then as he was walking away he continued down the hall looking at her ass. He did not see that I observed the entire thing as I was trailing her at a distance because we were unloading stuff from the Gran Jefe mobile.
Just thought I'd share. It never goes well when I post in the Sosua section and simply don't need the grief. I enjoy your posts my man. Keep up the good work!
At Burger King an apple pie is 80 pesos. Take a look below at what 90 pesos can buy you at a Panaderia four blocks away.
An insight into living rich, poor and in between:
Money and status is really not that important to me. What you have had you might miss when you don't have it anymore, but you never have to wonder about what it would have been like. I live in a apartment that costs me $550.00 a month (US Dollars). I didn't use the internet so I don't think I got market price. Only $550 a month and I rent. Can you look at the price that I pay for my apartment and know if I'm rich or am I poor?
Warren Buffet's house is a modest property in Omaha that he purchased in 1958 for just $31,500. Does that mean that everyone in the United States of America that lives in a house that cost more is rich?
He also says: "Success is really doing what you love and doing it well. It's as simple as that. Really getting to do what you love to do everyday. That's really the ultimate luxury. . . Your standard of living is not equal to your cost of living. " By the standards of Warren Buffet I am successful. And so I consider myself in good company. It's been documented that he is rich. That's a fact.
Am I rich? Using the Latin American Standards published by the World Bank. That would be a yes! And depending upon how old the person is asking me the answer would be: "Yes! I am rich Sir. " got to show respect being a newbie and all that.
But I prefer this answer: [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMFJBd40Awo[/URL].
ROTFLMFAO!
I was wrong.
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sv063nzZIEk[/URL]
Here is what I know for a fact: You can't define someone in terms of Socioeconomic Status (SES) by giving examples of how much a person spends, what they pay in rent, how many cars they own, or by a persons self-definition simply using a few examples. If you want to do that you better have a lot of data. It's the type of data even years of living here in the Dominican Republic can't give you. Window observations and knowledge of others personal situations are simply interesting antidotes. You can only define someone as Middle Class by how much money they make.
I make reference to the paper: "Economic Mobility and the Rise of the Latin American Middle Class" published by the World Bank in 2013. In Chapter 5 of this report "The Rising Latin American and Middle Class" (page 135) in the section "Who is Middle Class in Latin America and the Caribbean" (page 145) it says "This section which draws on Birdsall (2012). " This a reference with "A Note on the Middle Class" a paper written by Nancy Birdsall in 2012 is heavily relied on in the paper.
The middle class in Latin American is defined as a household income between $10 - $50 (In 2005 US Dollars). To find out how much that would be in today's dollars, scale both the lower number and the higher number up by the US rate of inflation. Can any of you do that for us No? OK, no problem. I got this! Using the US Inflation calculator the range in today's dollars (2016) is: $12.29 - $61.45.
In the report you will find a table that contains the data for the Dominican Republic. It shows that in 2000 26.8% of households were middle class. But in 2008 only 20.4% were. If you have more recent or more accurate data, please present it. Using the information I provided for you here any of you interested in knowing if your friends and neighbors are middle class. All you have to do ask how much MONEY they make each month. Then you divide that by 30. That will give you their daily income. Present this information and after you have done that I am prepared to discuss anything you would like about the Dominican Middle Class.
So, although I might not be able to find the market price of an apartment in Santo Domingo / Santo Domingo Este online. I sure as hell know how to do social science research. Which is a infinitely more interesting subject for me. No need for me to squat, reach around and fling it at my audience or to look out the window and simply ponder for that matter. I've been told I easily confuse my facts and opinions. Really?! This report is straight out a episode of Dragnet: The facts ma'am. Nothing but the facts.
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVzvRsl4rEM&list=RDsVzvRsl4rEM[/URL]
My Dad thought all that money he paid for my fancy university degree that received from one of the top undergraduate schools that had one of top ten departments in Sociology in the United States of America (at that time and is still ranked number #4) was a waste of money. I wish he was still alive so I could tell him this story. You know the one about how I just intellectually knocked it out the ball park and into the ocean.
And I bet all those middle class women make excellent Non-Pro finds. If I just get out the barrio for a quick minute. Nah. Never happen!
Pro's, Non-Pro's and Novia's.
[QUOTE=GrownMan1;1995691]When they left I gave my Haitian treat 2000 pesos and a nice dress. Fresh gave his Novia $100 for her $100 for her mother and $200 for her mother to get groceries for his stay when he gets there in two days. He wonders why I don't do Novias or get into meeting their families.[/QUOTE]I can't speak for GrownMan. But the implication is clear. I don't have to wonder. I don't need to read between the lines. The comparison here is stark and clear. The way I see it. It's all about the mother fucking money.
2000 DOP= 42.87 USD*; 100 USD= 4,664 pesos; 400 USD= 18,662 DOP; Wow! And I'm mother fucking Santa Claus? ROTFLMAO! Fresh must a straight 7 figure philanthropist. But I've never been one to comment on how another man spends his money. But I'm quick throw out some figures of relative value. Unfortunately in this case I can't say a damn thing. It's impossible for me to comment on the specific situation that Grownman outlines. Because I use Cost per Orgasm (CPO) as a quantitative comparison of relative value when it comes to busting a nut. And we don't know how many times Fresh busted a nut in order to make the CPO calculation. We also don't know Fresh's ideal CPO budget.
Here is what we know:
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;1902482]Latest reports show that 4.5 million Dominicans or 45.7% of the population are borderline poor. The report says that 17.1% already live in poverty and 8. 8% in extreme poverty. The UNDP defines poverty as living on an income of between US $4 and US $10 a day. The 2015 report is based on 2014 data. Gentlemen, (using the term very loosely) that is between 184 and 459 pesos a day. Which translates to 5,520 to 13,770 pesos a month.
A prostitute has to fuck 10 times (at 1500 pesos / fuck) before she crosses the "borderline poor" income line out of 13,770 pesos a month. And if she has a child then she would have to double that number to bring both her child and her over that line.[/QUOTE]I don't know if Fresh intended his 18,662 DOP as a monthly payment. Or if it was a special payment in addition to the monthly stipend he gives his novia.
"Rozay, don't you know that pussy worth it" - Scrillix Rick Ross, Purple Lamborghini.
Grownman says she is a Dominican 10. She better be! But you can't always judge a book by it's cover. And we don't know the intangible qualities that she brings to the table. For Fresh they may very well be priceless. It's very easy to handle the entire family wanting to ride your back. You just say no. Early on one of my harem girls wanted additional money to give to her father. I told her that her Father was a grown man like me. And if he needs some money she better give it to him out of what I give to her. Or send him to come talk to me about it. I never heard anything about that ever again.
I prefer my non pros to be students, to have jobs, no kids and no history of slinging pussy on the street. If they have kids she better look to daddy to provide the support she needs. We all like different things and have different budgets.
*Today is February 7, 2017. [URL]XE.com[/URL] has the exchange rate as USD= 46.65 DOP.
Sometimes Mr. Camero's basic idea gets lost in the continual back and forth that goes on the other forums. Every ex-pat does things differently. While some may have chosen to study, do homework, over analyze everything and consult the "Expat Standard Operating Procedure Manual" (whatever the fuck that might be), others choose to take action (having already completed their hard knock life degree in a earlier phase in their lives).
[QUOTE=Wrx2005;2045851]For expats that have made the ultimate move / sacrifice to liquidate almost everything they own, and basically transition themselves from living in the country they resided in almost all of their lives, they arent criminals or unsavory characters trying to escape from the law or duty; I call that the ultimate example of someone not stuck in any zone, but a major accomplishment in life. A life changer.[/QUOTE]Yes, Mr. Wrx2005. They live their lives in a linear fashion making course corrections along the way and are not worried about what others think, do, or say here in this forum. We are here to share not to judge or be critical. Living in the Dominican Republic gives you the opportunity to: "Do what you like!" (within the law of course). But you actually have to live there right? These are MY experiences and opinions and in no way do they invalidate or challenge anyone else's.
[QUOTE=Camaro1257;2045239]Are all Dominicans alike?[/QUOTE]Of course not!
[QUOTE=Camaro1257;2045239]It never ceases to amaze me when I speak about some of my experiences with Dominican women with other Dominican women the response is always "todas las mujeres no son iguales" in the beginning I didn't have a come back but now I say " yo se pero la mayoria son similar. .[/QUOTE]I have some common ground with you here. But since all individuals are different, drawing conclusions for an entire group of individuals simply using anecdotal examples is difficult (it's the quantitative social scientist in me). But I do see patterns. And after a while your pattern recognition software accumulates enough data to recognize that "hanging curve ball" and knock it out of the park. I've read where others have referred to "finding the diamond in the rough". Yes, it certainly is possible but you got to have a great screening system, be patient and run them through to do it. You can't find a diamond if you are not moving a lot of dirt. LOL!
[QUOTE=Camaro1257;2045239]I have been giving this issue a lot of thought. Much of my time outside of chicas is spent with other extranjeros specifically ex pats who live here and the majority of us have the same types of experiences however it seems that there are several factors that determine what type of experience we will have.[/QUOTE]I learned the hard way to keep to myself and pretty much stay away from ex pats who lived there and my biggest mistake was associating with a very specific group that I met at a party about a year after I was there.
Since then I have watched my associations more closely and met several high quality expats from my country of origin and others that have extensive travel experiences. Most have dramatically different backgrounds from me. But we are all on the same wavelength when it comes to actually experiencing different cultures and being men of action. We share a common viewpoint on our life experiences in the Dominican Republic. They were my crew of trusted advisers while in country and continue to offer up good advice now that I have left. Interestingly enough, we all came to our conclusions about living in the Dominican Republic independently of each other by actually living there (no homework needed) and they all dovetail like the joints on high quality woodwork.
Since you set the parameters Mr Camaro, I will follow your criteria in my analysis:
[QUOTE=Camaro1257;2045239]1. Family background, is it a two parent household and what role does the father play in the family? Is the family religious and to what degree do they practice their religion? Since the first set of values comes from the family I find this to be very important.[/QUOTE]Pattern I have viewed: The vast majority of Dominican males don't handle their "man" business. Please note I said "vast majority". There are a small number (very small number) that handle their business and their family responsibilities, but they are in the minority. And no I'm not chalking it up to Latin culture or Dominican culture. Handling your business and taking care of your responsibilities is a universal male trait. The ones that are taking care of their families, their business, and still managing to get it in on a regular basis, hats off to them.
The highest quality Dominican males that I interacted with while living there were doctors, followed by military and law enforcement professionals of high rank. I also met one engineer and one business owner and they never tried to rip me off. Always gave me good advice and gave me insight into how the actual Dominican Republic operated on on a day to day life level and culturally. This has been my personal experience. So, I didn't / wouldn't use family background as an evaluation factor when it comes to my girls.
[QUOTE=Camaro1257;2045239]2. Socio economic class, Dominican society is similar to American society in that there is a upper class, middle class, working class and poor class. The difference between the Dominican Republic and the United States is that in the Dominican Republic is the disparity between the classes is much greater. What I have personally discovered is that if a woman in working my interaction with her is generally different than if she is not.[/QUOTE]This happens to be an area of scholarly expertise and personal interest. In my country of origin it's all about the (expletive deleted) money. Studies show that there is greater wealth inequality in the United States of America than in another country in the world and this wealth inequality is even greater than income inequality.
That being said a girl working a regular job or not working in the Dominican Republic can make a difference but I have not found it to be so. It's much more about the personality of the girl. And if she is materialistic or if she is being stretched thin because her family is riding on her back then she can be just a much of a money grabbing hustler similar to ones constantly being discussed working the streets of your favorite puta pueblos (Boca Chica and Sosua). Personally, I've found that having a job or not doesn't necessarily make a difference. Because the are all hustlers (just a matter of degree) and survivors. The type of personality that the girl has is much more important.
[QUOTE=Camaro1257;2045239]3. Level of education is very important also, I have met women in their late 20's who have not completed high school due to pregnancy, being married or other circumstances of life. There is a direct correlation between education and success in life regardless as to what country you are from. I realize there are many college educated Dominicans that are unemployed but those who have not completed high school have less hope for the future.[/QUOTE]I'm surprised to read this statement. You can find at any number of multi-millionaires or in some cases billionaires that are here in the United States of America that don't have high levels of formal education. That being said, this a another area that did not factor at all into my experiences or qualifications with my girls. Even in the Dominican Republic I met girls in the age classifications you described going to school and trying to advance their careers and economic prospects. One of the thing that seem to be unique is there no stigma on taking classes no matter what age you happen to be. I attended classes at APEC taking Spanish at the university level. I helped girls with their homework from their English classes (the only homework I need to do at this point in my life). I've also accompanying them to classes on their various campuses. My perception is that education is highly valued and most (not all) understood that developing and improving the skills most demanded by employers was the key to their economic advancement. Cause there weren't any Dominican males around to do it. Once again it was all about the individual personality of the girl and what they were trying to achieve. Were they playing the cards they were dealt in the best way they could? Or were they unmotivated and not trying to make anything of themselves?
[QUOTE=Camaro1257;2045239]My conclusion is that if I only deal with Dominican women from broken families of low socio-economic status who are uneducated I will generally get the same results. Admittedly the majority of my experiences are similar, but when I have different experiences with Dominican women it is likely due to one of the 3 above factors. Although it is difficult stepping outside my comfort zone I am enjoying the challenge.[/QUOTE]My conclusion: I've got a Ivy league education, I come from a two parent household, and according to Latin american standards I'm rich! But that's not the first thing you see when you meet me. I never really like being judged based on superficial factors. And I've got a very big one that's quite visible for all to see.
I went with a strictly performance based system. Because when you are actually living in the Dominican Republic (instead of talking to others continually about it) you can "Do what you like". I didn't use Mr. Camaro's factors when evaluating, analyzing and reviewing experiences with my girls. And although those factors can be important and there is absolutely nothing wrong with looking at things from that perspective, I found that they were not important to me. And quite honestly why would I? I didn't need to study Harem Construction and Management 101. I didn't need to do any home work. I didn't ask anyone any questions about how to do it. It was MY harem and I built my team for me. I just did it!
I evaluated my girls first on their performance with me: How did they treated me? What they did for me? How they communicated with me? How available they were? And kept my expense ledger updated (got to know your CPO). I tallied up the report card with my qualitative and quantitative criteria. That's how they earned their spot on the roster and I placed in them in line up accordingly. The best girls got the best deals.
Mr. Camaro, I would like to hear how the different factors you outlined have actually played into your interactions with different girls on the island and effected your experiences. Do you consider your girls pros, semi-pros or non-pros? Do you even use those classifications? Why or why not? Others have pointed out that not all Dominican girls are "fucking for money". Have you found that to be the case also? Others have said "they are not impressed when a women refuses or does not ask for money". What has been your experiences along those lines?
You said it best Mr. Camaro "Every ex-pat has to do what is best for them". Real talk brother! And as always I enjoy your contributions to the forum!
May the pussy be with you!
On day before my last day in the Dominican Republic I needed a little taste to remember my time in country. On my last day, while passing through SDQ, I stopped by the Duty Free shop to compare prices. Sexy Dominicans were offering more tastes in cute outfits and their soothing Latina accents. Their English wasn't too good. But nice eye candy and their accents were lovely.
For a 700 ML bottle of Barcelo Gran Anejo I paid 375 DOP.
For a 700 ML bottle of Brugal XV Ron Reserva I paid 435 DOP.
In the duty free store they wanted 15 USD for each bottle. You can always save a little money when you are not on the tourist economy. Nearly three years of actually living in the Dominican Republic taught me a few things. LOL!
Hello all,
I have enjoyed reading all of the threads in this particular forum and hope to being some more discussion on developing relationships with non-pros etc.
I am an experienced SD here in the states in a Big Ten college town, and lately have been enjoying the idea of developing those relationships in sunnier, warmer climates. I do feel it is important to disclose that I am inexperienced when it comes to mongering on an international level. I would like to learn other cultures, and experience them with women whose lives I can contribute to in not only financial ways, but in a relationship that is both encouraging and educating to them (and myself). I have no interest in staying in all-inclusive resorts and spending time with pros. I would much rather assist in helping a few young women in obtaining a better lifestyle, expose them to finer things in life. And truly experience those countries I visit. I have been told my longer term SD / SB relationships here in the states have been extremely beneficial to the women I spend time with by increasing their self-esteem, self worth and goals in life.
Hell, I am most likely naive to think that a 36 year old successful white dude from the midwest can have that kind of impact on a woman in the DR. That said, I'm not scared to try. I just need help finding the woman in the situation I am looking for. I have started a little bit in discussions with women on cupid, and would appreciate some advice on distinguishing pros from non-pros. When it comes to the cultural dynamics of male / female relationships in the DR, this particular forum has been helpful.
Again, my goal here is to help encourage discussion for those of us who want more than a "wham bam thank you ma'am" on our travels to the DR, and really cultivate BFE / GFE experiences on our travels.
Thank you, and Happy New Year to you all.
[QUOTE=Almond812;2124601]Hello all,
I have enjoyed reading all of the threads in this particular forum and hope to being some more discussion on developing relationships with non-pros etc.[/QUOTE]Welcome Mr. Almond. My apologies for your having to wade through the off topic subjects and grown men having the written version of an apoplectic fit while replying to my posts. I'll bring my editing tools to bear with greater precision during redevelopment of the subject.
It would seem that some simply cannot handle being presented with a different world view. Even though they have entire sections in which to talk about prostitution as a method of having sex with girls, there seems to be a visceral reaction when the idea is presented that there are other ways to going about banging out the hot sexy girls (younger and older) that reside on the island.
[QUOTE=Almond812;2124601]I am an experienced SD here in the states in a Big Ten college town, and lately have been enjoying the idea of developing those relationships in sunnier, warmer climates. I do feel it is important to disclose that I am inexperienced when it comes to mongering on an international level. I would like to learn other cultures, and experience them with women whose lives I can contribute to in not only financial ways, but in a relationship that is both encouraging and educating to them (and myself). I have no interest in staying in all-inclusive resorts and spending time with pros. I would much rather assist in helping a few young women in obtaining a better lifestyle, expose them to finer things in life. And truly experience those countries I visit. I have been told my longer term SD / SB relationships here in the states have been extremely beneficial to the women I spend time with by increasing their self-esteem, self worth and goals in life.[/QUOTE]Your experience is welcome here. I too spent a great deal of time roaming through the sugar world in the east, southwest and southern California. You goals are well within reach if you are willing to put in a little time to tighten up your language skills and shed the toxic outer shell those from the United States (including myself initially) arrive with. Finally, stay out of the puta pueblos where so many sexual tourists and sex pats tend to congregate. If you initial efforts do not get your balls off to your satisfaction, you can always fall back to those locations.
Remember prostitution is legal in the Dominican Republic. You can find a prostitute, fuck a prostitute and pay a prostitute. Now, there are those that seem to want to make it more complicated than that. But, I've been to a few of the puta pueblos and I'll let you in on a secret: there is not much more to it than that.
[QUOTE=Almond812;2124601]Hell, I am most likely naive to think that a 36 year old successful white dude from the midwest can have that kind of impact on a woman in the DR. That said, I'm not scared to try. I just need help finding the woman in the situation I am looking for. I have started a little bit in discussions with women on cupid, and would appreciate some advice on distinguishing pros from non-pros. When it comes to the cultural dynamics of male / female relationships in the DR, this particular forum has been helpful.[/QUOTE]Pro / Semi Pro / Non Pro.
The differences are razor thin in Republica Dominicana. Only you can define those differences and what works for you. For example, there are girls who will travel to a puta pueblo in order to make money for (put reason here). They keep it secret and don't want anyone to find out. Others, make no bones about it it. And that is how they are paying for how they like to live and how they help out the others they are providing financial life support for in their lives. Others fuck for money when they have a one time expense (supplies to get the kids prepared for school, money for gifts end of year, insert any number of other reasons here). Others engage in what has been referred to as "girl game". That is getting as many men as possible to provide financial support for them by any means necessary.
Where would you put each of these girls in my examples on the scale? The question is rhetorical. Rather than getting in to the labels, I suggest that making a list of your standards and then sticking with them "holding frame" so to speak. That will be the key to your success! Not anything any of us say here. Your dick! Your money! Do what you like my brother!
[QUOTE=Almond812;2124601]Again, my goal here is to help encourage discussion for those of us who want more than a "wham bam thank you ma'am" on our travels to the DR, and really cultivate BFE / GFE experiences on our travels.
Thank you, and Happy New Year to you all.[/QUOTE]A most worthy goal Mr. Almond. One that I support!
And if I say so myself (and I do). I have a lot to contribute. With well over 1000 RONs (remain over nights) in Santo Domingo Este and other parts of Republica Dominicana not even my haters can continue to contest my qualifications to comment on the subject matter at hand.
Yes, I arrived first class to a throng of greeters at SDQ. The thunderous applause was deafening and took me by total surprise. I have to say that I was quite the experience being greeted and picked up at the airport. That's right! I live on a island. I got the sun in my face and the ocean for a view. I fuck hot girls anytime I like. It's not a dream. It's not a rap video gentleman. It's my life. So don't hate, make of your mind to participate.
Happy motherfucking New Year!
Welcome back.
[QUOTE=Prtyr2;2135618]Try, boga boga, don pepe, sofia, asadero argentino, david crockett. Have a churrasco at don pinchos.[/QUOTE]This is real information! If I'm able to get a Uber I might just check some of them out. Nah, why do that? I'll just take the gran jefe mobile and arrive in style with a smoking hot chica riding shotgun. LOL. Just pass me the hooka!
The only amenity I will ever need is the view off my balcony. Check it out gentleman and ask yourselves if 30 minute blooming onion delivery from Outback is more important than that? Not for me. I don't eat that shit even when I'm in my country of origin!
5 years ago a view similar to this cost 3000 USD a month for a 2 bedroom apartment in my country of origin. I might not be rich, but I can recognize value when I see it. I'm not a elitist and I don't have my nose in the air. The only way you will see me behind the wheel of a Kia is during a test drive in the process of buying for one of my girls. I'm long past the materialistic drive in my life. Good health, good friends and new experiences is the road I travel now!
A little rum, hit the hooka and a sexy chica serving you almuerzo (lunch) in the bikini you bought her. While enjoying it all looking at the view in the photo below. Life is good. Live how you like!
[QUOTE=Sammon;2139649]I have had good fun in Sousa. I tend to do other things if the girl is GFE like going on day trips etc. I do rent a car always. Gives me the mobility I require and girls are impressed too. One girl had her mom in the hospital for some operation and I took her to get her mom. She was more than grateful. Certain minor things you do for them goes a long way rather than wham bam TY.[/QUOTE]You are dead on point my brother. Your positive experiences with doing little things are exactly the same as mine. And shows that even treating a prostitute with respect and as a human being is valued no matter what their profession happens to be or where you are in the country. Remember the bar of male performance in the Dominican Republic is so low that even assholes from other places give better treatment to these women than they receive from the domestic males they have access too. The only thing most males here have going for them is home field advantage. They are here for them day in and day out. My personal experiences bear this out and so do the experiences of others (who live here also) they have shared with me. Excellent "man in the arena" post!
Little things is how people survive the often difficult conditions that they face here. For example, my girl has left to help out a friend of hers that doesn't have any food. I've met her friend. I know her friends situation. She loaded up things from my pantry along with other basic things like toilet paper and headed out to help her cook and clean today. She borrowed 1000 DOP because it is raining very hard here and she wanted to take a taxi. You wait for public transportation in the rain. I understand her situation. It's not a problem. None of it is. My girl will pay me back when she gets paid the money she earns from working. There is not a thing she took for her friend than I couldn't replace if I just skipped a one paid "bust a nut" experience. It's great living a life where I have not only enough to take care of myself but I can be a "small time philanthropist". And even though I don't have a foundation with my name on it funded by millions or billions of dollar that I've earned in business, I can still help others whom I actually know live just a bit better if only for a day. And when I'm done, grab a Barcelo and hit the hooka. Life is good!
Always representing East Side!
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Again, my goal here is to help encourage discussion for those of us who want more than a "wham bam thank you ma'am" on our travels to the DR, and really cultivate BFE / GFE experiences on our travels..[/QUOTE]When will you be in the DR again? It seems like we have similar philosophies and approaches. And we are both a little younger than most guys here. I am always looking for a wingman.
Took my #1 to the cine last night. Regular viewing 2 the: 400 DOP / each. Snacks: 550 DOP. Parking: 60 DOP.
Now you don't have to pay those sorts of numbers to see a movie in Santo Domingo / Santo Domingo este. I don't mind paying them. My money comes fast so that's how I spend it. But I happen to like the theater in Blue Mall better than all the others in the city. Unobstructed views from all parts of the theater. Reserved seating. Lazyboy type chairs that fully recline with a footrest. And a state of the art sound system. Last night four other people in the salon with us. It was like having a private viewing. They also have 2 IMAX screens. We went to see Black Panther on opening night a few weeks ago. The IMAX (with the glasses) experience was worth every peso!
There are some nice amenities on that side. I've read that they have 30 minute blooming onion delivery (from Outback). But, honestly I don't give a fuck about that! One of my favorite stores (PriceSmart) is just 2 weeks away from completion in Santo Domingo este. After they open, the only reason I'm going to have to cross the bridge anymore is for entertainment purposes. I've been to over half a dozen venues over there. One is a take out bar where every women in the place is available. The educator has turned me onto two more venues right in Zona Colonial. And I've got a lead on a new one right here in Santo Domingo este.
I have read opinions that Santo Domingo is not monger friendly. That the "golden age" has passed. Makes me laugh! Straight oyster thinking in my opinion. If you are a hunter with a moisture seeking warhead on your pussy penetrating missile then you are good. I got 99 problems. Hiring a prostitute in Santo Domingo is not one. And Santo Domingo has the advantage of being full of hard working girls that would just like a good time on their one day off. Of course if you are only here on vacation that might not meet your schedule for ball drainage. Santo Domingo / Santo Domingo este are real cities unlike the the puta pueblos of Sosua and Boca Chica and therefore offers many other activities that don't involve busting a nut. There is a reason why Sosua is filled with girls from the big cities, better market conditions.
Right now the V's are invading Santo Domingo. Lot's of them are taking service jobs. They are living in small places with 4 or 5 girls in the place. One of my boys met one in a bar / restaurant / car wash on San Ysidro. Invited her to his place. She asked if she could bring a friend. He told me that they rocked his world all night and into the morning. Actually had to kick them out at noon the next day. Not going to quote the gift of cash he gave them. But it was less than I've seen people being quoted in Sosua (for just one). If you don't know, now you know!
Santo Domingo is hard. Right!
What has changed in the world of girls is the smart phone. The smart phone gives a girl unlimited connectivity to the world no matter what her plight in life may be. This connectivity allow a average girl to be contacted much more than simple approaches in real life allow. One of the biggest differences between men in the Dominican Republic and men in the United States is the open society that allows you to approach girls at will. And approach is what Dominican guys do. They do it all day (and all night) and they do it well. In fact they do exactly the thing that old school guys from the United States decry as being unskilled. They play the numbers game.
All this bullshit about doing a proper interview and taking the time to get to know a girl before you invite her back to the room is a function of just being old, inflexible and unable to adapt to the new social ways of doing things. Now I know we all have different styles. And we should, because we are all different people. But if over the years if your methods and thinking processes do not change then all that time you have spent gathering experience is wasted. If you have reached the point in your life where you think you have nothing to learn from others, if you feel like you must give advice and have it followed in order to be validated, then that points to deep hole in your personality that is not going to be filled by traveling the world and fucking third world WGs.
Men in the arena don't need validation from others in order to attempt great things. They don't have a problem with being a failure at making the attempt. And they especially don't pay attention to those that are critical of them. Men in the arena handle their business. The best of those give back. And the rest, well they just remain in that place and shall forever be one of those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat.
I learn more from new folks passing though Santo Domingo este / Santo Domingo than I have ever learned from the old school folks with their old school ways. And why not, the new generation is the next one. It will be the generation that saves us from the fuck ups we have made in our generation. The surgeon who fixes me will be younger than me and might even be female. My team of student doctors working on my dental issues is composed of two females and one male. Two of which speak English and is over seen by a female doctor who also speaks English. The one student who didn't speak English was kind of hanging back. During a time where everyone was trying to get the x-ray machine to take a good film (yes, it's not all digital here yet), I spoke to her in Spanish and she was amazed. I learned that she was from Cuba. Had grand plans for improving medical treatment in her country when she returns. And she had a great ass (even through those unflattering medical pants.)! But I digress, my team of doctors are suggesting work that no medical professional in the United States every took time to suggest. They took pictures of the problems and explained them too me. When they were computing the price of my work, they were a bit concerned about the price. But the price left me with a internal smile. With half down and the rest to be paid over the number of appointments the work would take to complete.
Cuban student doctor. Yes, she is part of my treatment team. We are not going on a date. But guys I know that travel to Cuba are not telling me about those types of girls, they are not hanging out with those types of girls. But I am! I'm regularly invited to parties full of medical students and doctors. I've got a friend married to doctor who has a sister-in-law as an attorney. That is my Dominican Republic. These are the types of girls old school people don't have access to because they can't communicate effectively with girls. You know those old school guys that only use a fist full of pesos in one hand and pocket full of condoms in the other to attract girls. Real talk!
Yes, I still have to deal with the motos driving on the wrong side of the street without lights, the lights going out and inconsistent, insanely slow internet. But instead of being in a puta pueblo and unable to hack it in a real city of the Dominican Republic. I'm a man in the arena! Who just happens to enjoy live to the fullest. I know where the rich folk at, I know where the 1000 DOP ho's at. Choose to believe it or not. I really don't give a fuck! No one can invalidate anyone else's experiences based on disbelief. And critics don't count.
Knowledge, Experience, Wisdom. There is nothing old school about it!
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Knowledge, Experience Wisdom. Nothing old school about it.
Take a donkey and put him on a cruise ship for a trip around the world. Show him all the exotic ports of call. Give him language training and cultural insights. And when you return to your home port what gets off the cruise ship: a donkey.
Thank you for reading my posts. Thank you for your participation in my blog (if only to hurl personal insults and rant like a girly man while failing to add any useful information).
Your post in my blog has me rolling on the floor laughing. Doesn't everybody have self love? Is it possible to fuck porn stars and prostitutes and have class? Does it define someone as has having no class?
It's possible to fuck both porn stars and prostitutes and be president in my county of origin. But you did get one thing right my man. I am not old school. Not even close.
Everybody has the right to their opinion. And thanks for validating everything I said in my post. You have chosen to be a critic. And you don't count. I learned long ago not to pay attention to your type. It is a long list of those that seem to populate the Dominican Republic forums and you have just added yourself to it. You think your personal views and those of the county are the only one that count. How many times do I have to read in your posts that you do not like casas? Why do you keep repeating yourself? So, if I like casas there is something wrong with me? Just one example of your narrow view on things.
Knowledge Experience Wisdom are not derived from time. It is derived from mental acuity. You missed the point of my post in it's entirety. When old school people get to the point where they are trashing the views of others simply because they are not the way THEY like to do things, they are showing that they have failed to develop the mental acuity needed to use all of the knowledge, experience and wisdom developed over the years. The are showing their closed minds and that they have lost the ability to learn from others. I've had more than one old school guy PM me in order to trash my ideas on both a personal and intellectual level. At least you had the testicular fortitude to do it in the open forum. I welcome it. Because personal insults are the last refuge of the intellectually bankrupt during a discussion based on logic and reason.
Ok, so fucking prostitutes is not worthy of high intellectual discussion. But when it comes to learning from the ideas of others what are old school people afraid of? I don't know you personally, but you have chosen to attack me on a personal level. Point out where I have provided factual information (and let me remind you that the purpose of sharing of information on women is in the founders statement) that is incorrect. Be a man in the arena, because critics do not count!
We can sit down over a good bottle of dominican rum, or just bottle of Brugal Blanco on ice at a colmado take hit of my hooka or new mig vapor and open your mind. It's the modern day peace pipe. Or you can continue to rant and rave at the changes brought on by young people and be left behind. Lift yourself up to a higher level. Or no because everybody is free to do what they like.
"17.5 same color T-shirt" who said it my man and what does it mean?
[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;2169103]BTW, speaking of my haggling "skills", a 19 year old on Tinder, was okay coming to see me today from Pto Plata for 1200 pesos. She started at 2500 but I reminded her that I was not a rich gringo, and she quickly acquiesced! LOL.[/QUOTE]Mr. Tempoeorto, you are a serious man in the arena. You going hard on them. Who you representing? Throw up your sign. LOL!
[QUOTE=Oakie;2169730]I don't know about you but I couldn't live in DR without instant internet access to the outside world, banks, insurance companies, officina, familia. Instant access to schedules, transportation, chicas and no wasted time waiting around, or trying to hook up with friends and chicas. Wifi almost everywhere, bluetooth and Youtube for any kind of music you like! More hot water and A/C.[/QUOTE]You and me both brother! Old school people lament progress. Inflexible, binary, narrow minded, backwards thinking is the Achilles heel of those stuck in old school thought. Hey I know some old school people. They do what they do. But I don't waste my time talking to them or hanging out with them anymore. I'm completely lost without a speedy internet connection. Last night I was working with the Educator. We both trade in the FOREX markets. I'm on a serious roll and wanted to share some new insights and methods with him. I called the meeting of the minds at the McDonald's on Lincoln Ave. Not only does it have a speedy free (but unsecured) internet connection there were some big booty MILF's and young hotties up in there too. So there we are there (and we were not alone using the free WiFi) him with his laptop, and me with my iPad and both of us with our smart phones looking at the charts and doing analysis of the markets. Third world country my ass! Get out of your puta pueblos and check out what a real city in the Dominican Republic looks like.
[QUOTE=Oakie;2169730]For me personally things are better than ever in Sosua. I thought I was "old school". After my last long term relationship with a local, I leaned a lot, like how to set the ground rules from the beginning, stay in overall control of the relationship and budgets. It requires saying no, firmly and meaning it!, and being willing to walk if you have major differences of opinion! Training. It's not easy but when it works, it is great![/QUOTE]Nothing "old school" at all about learning from your current experiences and sharing them with other. Visitors will never be able to understand the culture the way those that live here do. I'm I'm surprised at how much advice is offered by "old school" people that don't even live here to those that live here or even going as far to be critical of those that visit and choose not do do things the way they like. Advice is useless. Information is useful. And that's what I seek in my exchange with others that I have interacted with here. I feel the same way about Santo Domingo este. Things are better than ever for me here.
[QUOTE=Oakie;2169730]Lost 35 pounds, thanks to mi chica's home cooking, and encouragement. My fridge is always full of home made food so literally I only get to a resaurant about twice a week, But lots of Predidente Lite which agrees with me and seemingly I can drink with no loss of control, just a nice little buzz! Spent a long weekend with great local family campo up in the hills, and had the best time of my life! "Livin' the dream", as they say![/QUOTE]Living the dream! That's right. Living the dream not looking at it from off shore through the "old school" paradigm (love that word). We are "all in" on the Dominican Republic. Not just 1 week or 1 month visitors who can't hack a few inconveniences and run back to their North American havens. "The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena".
Your experiences closely mirror mine. I've experienced many of the things you have written about. I've also experienced health improvements and home cooking. I have no need to be in a restaurant or on the street every night in order to validate myself or feel entertained. I've experienced going out into the country and enjoying the unique hospitality that Dominican country folk give you. I've also returned with a huge bounty of fresh fruits and vegetables. But more importantly I just love the sugar cane just cut from the field and fresh coffee directly from the country not processed by the large companies. There is much to be experienced in Republica Dominicana. It's more important to enjoy yourself while you are here than to slavishly adhere to someone else antiquated version of how they should live their life or even spend time on their vacation.
If you are traveling from the US, Fry's has BLU smartphones from 35 USD and up. They work perfectly fine. I have used several different models of them in several different countries and have given them as gifts. Altice is my go to carrier in the Dominican Republic. Show your passport and you can buy a SIM for 100 pesos. You can add as little as 100 pesos for talk minutes or go straight new school baller status and purchase a full unlimited package that includes data.
Don't get stuck in that rut lamenting how the internet has ruined to the good ole days. You can call a chica on whatsapp with just a finger, deliver her to your door using uber, bust your nut in a hour (or whatever your preferred arrangement is) and sent her right back the way you had her delivered. Don't hate! Adjust, adapt, improvise and get your nut.
Hit up my booty call girl cutie I spoken about before because she sent me a message on whatsapp saying she wanted to see me. I hit her back with a few changes I wanted to institute for the second session which she enthusiastically agreed too. Set the meeting place and the time. I'm at the spot five minutes early waiting for her when she hits me with the following message: "It's raining can we meet one hour later". What the fuck? It's raining so you need a one hour rain delay? I sent her a picture letting her know I'm waiting for her at the spot we discussed and she responds that: "I'm a very prompt man". If course I am. I take it as a complement. I'm not Dominican or old school and therefore in my own world. I live in the hear and now. I live in the expanded present where we adapt, survive, improvise and over come. I'm not locked into one way of thinking. I don't call names. I don't have time for that. I'm a man in the arena right now that knows critics don't count. I'm a man that values the information you have for me but who does not need your advice unless I ask for it.
She asks me if will I wait there a hour for her. I tell her no. I know that this is one of those short term rain showers. The sun is going to be out and drying everything up in 15 minutes. And wouldn't you know it was. She sent me a sad face because I won't wait. I tell her perhaps another time very soon. I will not tolerate or reward flaking activity. This is Santo Domingo este where the big dogs roam not some puta pueblo where old school types hang out when they are not writing fictional stories from off shore that are personally critical of others because they don't have the skills or experience to operate in the big city. A man has never held my hand unless they were one of my adult male relatives when I was a child or helping me up. Now I'm all grown up. Much closer to 50 than 60. But that only proves that simply having a few years on ya does not lock you into old school thinking. No one needs to be shown Sosua and Boca Chica because they are both easy. Santo Domingo este and Santo Domingo are hard. Anyone can operate with impunity in a puta pueblo. But in the big city not so much. And quick review of the posts in the Santo Domingo section will verify my statement. Even Grownman has said this in his own user blog.
Back up plan.
Honestly I didn't have one. But then I decided to hit my favorite online provider web sites. I had reviewed things before and saw a couple of promising advertisements so I followed up again with a few "holas" and started to get some responses. Got one from someone I was previously interested in before and found out she was still working in of Zona Oriental. Great, that's close and keeps me for having to cross that mother fucking bridge over to Santo Domingo at peek traffic time. She is available immediately and I'm ready. Initial location is 20 -25 minutes away. Wander around a bit after I get on her street then find a place to park. She gives me a colmado reference point and then gives me the exact location after she scopes me out from the window. I see her and she has a pretty face. I get to her apartment door and her pictures that she posted online are completely accurate.
She is a morena V who has a body type I like. Her smile is warm and genuine. Her voice soft spoken. She leads me back to her bedroom. Offers me something to drink and a opportunity to wash up. I'm already freshly showered as is she so we get undressed and I start to enjoy her soft and sensual nature. That enjoyment leads to doggy style with me finishing up with some hard pounding in prone bone with her pushing that nice ass back at me and giving me proof she has been doing her kegel exercises. We clean up, take a little down time and start on round two. Even more sensual the second round with a little playful banter to boot. She finished me off. And I thoroughly enjoyed myself! I'm adding her to the booty call time line up. A line up I might add that does not have a girl over 30 in it. I don't need any of that fake girl friend shit, because I have real ones! I'm not looking for loving because I'm about straight fucking no kissing. I got real girl friends for that! My CPO is right on target (new school). Hit me on the back channel for the web site, prices, approximate location and phone number. And of course always remember YMMV.
Balls drained. All that really remains is for the old school folks to complain!
Clarity and focus is something I am very good at! And it very clear to me that their are a number of people clearly more focused on what I do and write about in the Dominican Republic than on their own pussy business. I understand why this is. When you are old school, retired and bored, stuck writing critical comments about others from off shore while you wait for the opportunity to come the tropical oasis where I live because you have no real information to share about the Dominican Republic it can be very frustrating.
For example, the photos below were taken off the balcony of the apartment I spend most of my time in when I am in Santo Domingo este. There is so much new construction here and the competition is so fierce, last month my landlord LOWERED my rent. Yes, my brothers you read that right. No new lease, just a straight rent decrease. Care to guess how much it costs me a month now?
Think that being able to invite a girl over to enjoy this view with me does not help me get pussy. Think again my brothers posting your critical words from behind your screens off shore. It's called mental foreplay. The girls enter my apartment, they go straight to the balcony to check out the view. The panties drop. And you know what happens next.
Standing offer for anyone visiting Santo Domingo, hit me via PM, I'll give you my whatsapp number, hit me when you are wheels down, and I will show you around mi bario. Just like I did The G man and many others. The G man even wrote about it in the Santo Domingo forum. The Gran Jefe mobile always has a full tank of diesel fuel. And that shit is getting expensive. 196 DOP / gal. But for my ISG brothers I'll roll til we are on E. And fill it back up again.
But I do have one question: How does a person who has failed at everything in life manage to live like this?
I once got a low grade in a class while I was getting my Ivy league education. But still finished with a 3. 8 GPA in my major and 3. 6 over all. So either someone has reading comprehension problems (that is if they actually saw my university transcripts and they haven't) or they simply do not see eye to eye with me on issues in the Dominican Republic, pussy business, or how they think (because they have not spent any real time with me to know) I conduct my life here.
Focus on getting your nut my brothers. Being critical does not help anyone get more pussy nor does it constitute sharing of information about women.
Enjoy my work!
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Balls drained. All that really remains is for the old school folks to complain![/QUOTE]I don't know my brother I can quiver with you on this. 8 reasons why Sub is Ole Skool.
1. You always on time. I have dealt with the your Wolfpack. They hunting groups and always are late.
2. A puta not on time you dismiss her ass.
3. You have your own vehicle in a foreign country. Because that's how you roll.
4. You easily adjust when plan A doesn't work. So many of us will have waited for the rain to stop, only for the 1 hour to turn into three hours and / or the next day.
5. You have putas for play- and girlfriends for the lay. Some of us don't know the difference.
6. You know how to operate the sites, Casa, and the streets with no problem.
7. You are not on this site for help. You are here for entertainment and to help others.
8. You are the SD expert of the board. Next to BQ ribs.
Sub IMHO ole skool does not describe your age. It describes your wisdom of operation. You ole skool G.
Put some of this OG kush in the hoolker and let me hit it!
Puerto Rico is a US Territory and the last time I checked their passports looked like mine. So it is considered a domestic flight if you happen to be leaving from Florida. It has a US system with US problems and a dollar based economy. So, no real economic advantages on that front. Of course with English spoken there it would be easy for the linguistically lazy folk who only read and speak it well.
Visited twice before. Read up quite a bit on the new problems they are having. No fire sale when it comes to property values. And when they come down it will be in relationship to the US real estate market.
In conclusion, I really don't see any advantages of living there compared to the numerous better choices there are all over the world. And if you are just going for a vacation then Hawaii sits on the same latitude line. Pull out a map and check it out.
[QUOTE=MrGogo;2171890]Apparently as people are fleeing Puerto Rico others are seeing opportunities. Real estate deals, good airport, English spoken, American based system. Crime would be my main concern.
The infrastructure is bad right now, so it can only improve. I'm not high on the idea right now but if I keep hearing about the possibilities maybe I might take a visit in the future.[/QUOTE]
Infrastructure.
About a month ago CNBC reported that six months after Hurricane Maria, approximately 121,000 residents remain without power.
Power trucks and a donated mobile solar generator finally arrive in coastal towns still reeling from the aftermath of the storm.
There are demands for action and a inquiry into allegations of corruption against the island's power authority.
Source: [URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2018/03/20/frustrating-progress-on-restoring-puerto-ricos-power.html[/URL].
So, fly to Puerto Rico and sit in the dark. Sounds like a wonderful vacation spot, doesn't it?
Real Estate.
What exactly constitutes a fire sale? We have been told that one is going on in Puerto Rico. No proof has been provided. How about some verifiable information and you can decide for yourselves.
"Demand for luxury beachfront properties in exclusive areas such as Dorado, Palmas del Mar and Rio Grande is expected to outstrip supply in the coming years, according to Carlos Xavier Velez of real estate consulting firm, RE Advisors.
Prices of beachfront luxury homes have remained stable or in some cases increased from 2012 to 2016, according to Leticia Brunet Gonzalez of Trillion Realty Group. Prices range from US $400 to US $600 per square foot. More specifically in Condado and DoradoBeach, prices of luxury properties can reach US $1,000 per square foot, said* Hiram Albino of Luxury Estates Puerto Rico. " - Global Property Guide (August 2, 2017).
Source: [URL]http://www.globalpropertyguide.com/Caribbean/Puerto-Rico/Price-History[/URL].
Doesn't exactly sound like the nice places to live in Puerto Rico are going for pennies on the dollar, does it?
But out of fairness, and to show I'm not just trying to make a point, here is the link to the CNN Money article quoted by Mr. GoGo from February 21,2016. Gentlemen, I have given you the opportunity to read the entire article instead of just a quote that he presented.
[URL]http://money.cnn.com/2016/02/21/investing/puerto-rico-foreclosure-crisis/index.html[/URL]
Crime.
Crime is usually not something I worry about. If I am thinking about traveling somewhere if I don't think I'm going to be safe there I just don't go. After all why spend the money traveling to a place, even if it is just a short domestic flight available many times a day and you get to check your bags for free, if you are going to get jacked after you get there? World Nomads reported that Puerto Rico is generally a hospitable and safe place for tourists.
Source: [URL]https://www.worldnomads.com/travel-safety/caribbean/puerto-rico[/URL].
Here is my Big Boy Rule about how to avoid crime when you travel or even in your own home town: Stay away from areas that are filled with people that don't have much as you to lose if you wind up with a violent encounter with them. I know that's unsolicited advice, but humor me on this one gentlemen.
Third world country is a term from the Cold War era only used by those who have failed to keep up with current development and economic models.
President Danilo Medina said his country is no longer poor. His statement is backed up by the World Bank list of economies (June 2017) where the Dominican Republic is listed in the Upper Middle Income Group.
Source: [URL]https://dominicantoday.com/dr/poverty/2017/07/26/dominican-republic-is-poor-no-more-medina/[/URL].
Source: [URL]https://data.worldbank.org/income-level/upper-middle-income[/URL].
Although I appreciate the sharing of insights into your personal preferences for where to live, I value a more expansive look at the big picture and the sharing of current facts and information with my readers. I have always preferred facts over opinions and knowledge over advice. Knowledge and facts are always welcome in my blog as I hope they will be in yours also.
Now I'm going to get back to my regularly scheduled enjoyment of life on a Caribbean island where I'm not concerned about using the dollar, real estate prices, who speaks English & Spanish (because I can speak both) or crime. Where is my damn rum and pass me the hooka?
[QUOTE=GrownMan1;2171928]5. You have putas for play- and girlfriends for the lay. Some of us don't know the difference.
6. You know how to operate the sites, Casa, and the streets with no problem.
7. You are not on this site for help. You are here for entertainment and to help others.
8. You are the SD expert of the board. Next to BQ ribs.
Sub IMHO ole skool does not describe your age. It describes your wisdom of operation. You ole skool G.
Put some of this OG kush in the hoolker and let me hit it![/QUOTE]Mr. Grownman,
I like all eight. But these are my favorites of your list. Number five: You are dead on point. Who of us satisfies our sexual hunger on puta play alone? I know I don't. Number six: Is a very astute analysis by you. Who of us restricts our pussy procurement efforts to just one avenue? I know I don't. Number seven: Who needs unsolicited advice? I know I don't. It's useless to me. But real knowledge like the kind you kick or that Mr. Knowledge posted in the Santo Domingo forum about a casa I did not know about, now that is an example of the sharing of information about women that I'm looking for. I followed it up with a personal thank you to Mr. Knowledge and are report on my visit to said casa. Number eight: I'm most honored. It's only important to be a man in the arena. Because we know the critics don't count!
Damn straight my brother, let me put some of that OG kush in the hooka and I'll pass it to ya!
I saw something in one of the blogs that made me think. It was a comment about wanting to remain in the US or the dollar economy. It was something like that. The reason for wanting too do this was not given. It was a puzzling statement because all my financial training (and trust me I've had a lot of it) has taught me that it's your personal lifestyle the determines your cost of living, not where you live or the country that prints you the paper you spend.
Almost anyone can live cheaply or break the bank in any country they choose to live in. In fact if you were to come to the Dominican Republic (something I have actually done) and insist on living the exact same lifestyle you live in (say for example my country of origin) you are going to pay dearly for that! I'm not the first person to say this. You can find posts from Mr. O and Mr. CP that say the exact same thing. If you are living here in the Dominican Republic you are simply going to have to give up some aspects of cushy living that you can easily purchase in your country of origin.
As an example, I happen to like having electricity all the time. Call me soft if you want to but when I'm in the Dominican Republic without electricity I'm pissed about it. Now my solution for this problem cost me 2000 USD and I still have to pay my electric bill every month. Don't get me started on why the mother fucking electric company can't keep the lights on in this place. But needless to say, that particular lifestyle issue forced me to reach deep in my pocket in order to mitigate it. Now when the electric company is fucking up all I hear is a beep from my back up system letting me know it's putting in work. Sometimes I don't even hear the beep and I don't even know my back up system is putting in work. Either way, my lights always stay on and I get to keep putting in work (when I'm using electricity instead of my own personal energy) even when the electric company is fucking up the program.
That being said, the cost of my lifestyle here in the Dominican Republic is not less than in my country of origin. But the exchange rate advantage (it's called international arbitrage for my more sophisticated readers that understand that sort of thing) allows the little money I do have to buy me a better lifestyle than I could afford in my country of origin.
Of course there are several advantages I get to experience when I am in the Dominican Republic that have nothing do with money and everything to do with the culture to be found in the Dominican Republic. I don't have to worry about being shot just because of the color of my skin when I'm stopped by the police here. More people look like me than than they do in my country of origin (and I might add they are often in charge). Nearly everyone in my bank knows me personally (probably because I'm just that sort of personable guy). The tellers and the manager greet me in Spanish and English. I receive excellent customer service. And I'm not not even rich. Girls don't have a problem with my advanced age (anywhere from 50 through 60 depending on who you happen to believe). I receive deference when I pull up at the curb of anyplace I arrive or park because of the vehicle that I drive (one I might add is totally unimpressive by the standards of my county of origin). And it's very inexpensive to keep it nice, clean and looking good. I have a view (off the balcony of my apartment and out of every window in the place) that I could not afford to pay for in my country of origin (more than one ISG person has been in my apartment seen my view and knows I'm not lying or stroking my ego about that). I've made friends of all ages (but mostly younger) that I would have ever had the opportunity to meet and socialize with in my county of origin. I've entered the real club that I'm interested in being in since I've made my move offshore (expat or sexpat depending upon who you ask). My network of Dominican contacts here have real pull in the government and businesses they work and can counsel, give me advice and throw their weight around on my behalf (and they have) within their government and businesses.
Now for you younger big dogs out there who want to get off the porch, I'd like to introduce you to a gentleman that I was turned onto by another young brother I met here on ISG. He is someone who found their path offshore. And he is grinding in Santo Domingo. A younger guy that does not have a retirement income or large portfolio backing him up which only makes what he's is doing more impressive. He's into non pros and everyday proves my point that it's more important to be a man in the arena and to be able to think your way into a situation that you want to be in. He is a living example that critics don't matter. In fact so am I, because if they did I certainly wouldn't still be posting here. And if you followed their advice you wouldn't be reading this because you would have me on ignore right now. LOL! To avoid controversy hit me on the back channel for more info.
Six out of the top ten happiest and healthy places are in Latin American and the Caribbean. No wonder I'm filled with happiness and self love. Maybe my critics should take note. Being a man in the arena in Latin America and the Caribbean is good for ya!
[QUOTE=AllTooHorny;2176889]In any case, Spanish is spoken by many people in the US, too. The vast majority of Americans are English-only speakers.[/QUOTE]With the vast demographic changes occurring the US I question the accuracy of that statement. 52.6 million people speak Spanish in the US. It is a country of 312 million people. There are more Spanish speakers in the US than are in Spain. 17 percent of people speak Spanish in the US. They are often clustered in regions. Try operating in California without Spanish. You can, that is if you are comfortable with a large majority of the people around you speaking a language you cannot understand.
I was not on the island or in the position to dispute the information about Passions that has been posted. But the wonderful thing about the internet is that it allows a motherfucker making claims to be fact checked (emphasis on checked).
The hypothesis (borrowed from you know who): Publicity provided by ISG postings feeds into the general tenor of the political move to shut down establishments that operate on the very periphery of the "no pimping laws".
An example was given of Passions, a nightclub that was shut down in Sosua in early 2014. It was stated that they were a little too public and drew unwanted attention to themselves from the local politicians. These statements are beyond the realm of proof. Because unless you were in the room when the decision was made to move on the owner of Passions legally and shut his business down, you have no idea the real reason behind that particular political decision unless someone has personally told you. Furthermore the official account of why the closing occurred indicated that the owner of the establishment had indeed crossed over that bright line of legality and it resulted in his business being closed and jail time. Unless he proffered the "Marion Barry" defense, my thoughts are to operate with the law, and if you are not going to then treat the people who could rat you out with a very high degree of respect.
When it comes to publicity, from what I been able to find on the internet about Passions there is a short but detailed video that was posted before the raid happened that showed the inside of Passions and it left little to the imagination. Now this was not a undercover video so I doubt it was taken without the permission and knowledge of the former owner of the business. I did not see Cuba Dave taking credit for this video. And from what I have read of his personality he was not shy about taking credit for his work. So, I am not buying the Cuba Dave did it, ISG posts were too explicit, there was too much publicity argument, no matter how dogmatic is it being made.
There was publicity about Passions that was generated independently from ISG and Passions that wound up on youtube and in many other places on the net. One individual proffered it simply may have been that the owner lost his political clout compared to the other property owners. It was bar located across the street from two apartment complexes and a house. And although there are often no zoning laws like in my country of origin so as a business owner and a property owner you are left at the mercy of your the property owners around you and since this more often a nation of men more than a nation of laws the individual that is best able to draw the attention of prevailing legal authority often prevails.
From what I read the owner ran afoul of the no pimping laws. And we all know pimping ain't easy or else everybody would be doing it. He ran his house with a large pimp stick and although he was not hitting his girls with it, he was hitting them with a much more powerful too (and I'm not talking about my dick either). This motherfucker was putting a charge on his girls that cut into the their earnings. He was charging them for stupid things. Now that's some cold blooded mafia type shit! "But I didn't make that much this week. I don't care fuck you pay me". That's some cold blooded US government IRS type shit right there. Now I don't know any of this for a fact. I'm just sharing what I have read in response to what an individual claimed has happened and what he has posted about the incident.
Furthermore I've been unable to verify that Cuba Dave was ever prosecuted for anything in the Dominican Republic. I know he wrote a book about Sosua. Might not of made people happy but it certainly was not illegal. And although he got pinched in Costa Rica. With the help of some very competent attorneys that also figured out that since the "gloves didn't fit then they must acquit". Yes, Cuba Dave beat the rap in a foreign country. That's some straight Chappo type shit if I've ever seen it.
Now if someone wants to help a brother out and bring some real facts to the table then this will continue to be a discussion filled with any number of alternative facts and logical fallacies of all types. I drink and hit the hooka a lot. That's my excuse. But I don't know what the other posters problem is. Did I wander into the shrine to the great pussy pueblo of Sosua (AKA: The Sosua Forum in ISG) and someone felt umbridge? I honestly don't know. And I really don't give a fuck!
But the reaction has been worse than rich Dominicans having to rub elbows with Haitians in Blue Mall. Call fucking 911 because somebody up in here is having a straight apoplectic fit. My offer to entertain have a rum and smoke (complete with putas) was not even addressed. At least my fellow man in the arena did not feel the need to resort to personal insults and name calling like my critics proudly do.
[QUOTE=OldKool;2180658]Sub man has a hard time getting any response because he tends to be an ass.[/QUOTE]OldKool has never met me before and yet he feels the need to repeatedly insult me because simply because he has different personal preferences.
That makes him my critic. And we all know critics do not count. I'm not engaged in a schoolgirl popularity contest. I am here to share information and learn from others.
Be informative not critical!
A blog (a truncation of the expression "weblog") is a discussion or informational website published on the World Wide Web consisting of discrete, often informal diary-style text entries ("posts".
This is a "user blog". It's been proffered by other posters that I am having a conversation with myself. This is the Logical Fallacy: Argument From Authority Tell me where in this definition that it says that by posting my diary-style text entries that I am having a conversation with myself? Because if that is the case then everyone who posts is having a conversation with themselves. Because that is the true nature of a blog.
It has been proffered by other posters that this is the most boring blog ever started on ISG (Straw Man logical fallacy). This is actually a type of Logical Fallacy that I never make and so it's impossible for someone else to shoot down. Other posters have also said that no one reads my blog. This once again the Straw Man logical fallacy is making its way into the argument. Because we have posters replying to my posts in my blog. And we have posters claiming they don't read my blog, but are able to reference it and claim they received information about it through PMs. Somebody read the blog and sent you a PM on it, didn't they? LOL!
Now I've been on ISG for a quick minute. And anyone who has read a post or two of mine no matter what section it is in knows I don't have a problem having a vigorous conversation with anyone who chooses to engage me. I also do not have a problem sending a positive PM about a particular post. That's where posters get it twisted. I am not giving praise to the poster but to the work that he posted. There are a few posters that I don't get good vibes from who still may on occasion make a quality post that is informative or entertaining. But there is a much longer list of posters with whom I've had a minor disagreement in the open forum who turned around and helped me when I sent them a PM requesting assistance in their area of expertise. Mr. Grownman, Mr. E, Mr. Knowledge, Professor Frannie to name a few (forgive me if you have given me assistance and I not giving you public credit here, I hope I least thanked you via PM).
Words like war and shot are being thrown around like a baseball tossed around the infield after a strikeout. Seriously? When the objective is about pussy (let's keep it real please) no matter how you get it, why do you want to take issue with others when they when they actually take the time to post about it no matter what your feelings are on what they post? Remember I said feelings and if that's what your response is about then in my hooka opinion that some serious girly man shit! I don't get that. When I read post that says nothing more than "I went to the store to buy a box of cookies. I looked in the cookie section and didn't see anything I liked and went home". I'm thinking WTF? That post is some bullshit! But I keep that to myself. When I read a post that details an adventure but there is no naming of the particular places that ventured into only obscure references. I also think that post is wack. Now you will not see me take issue with the poster over his post. I happen to know where a "Haitian spot" is in Boca Chica. But because the poster did not name names, I don't know if it is the same spot I know about or if there is a new spot. And yet we have another poster throwing up a "me too" post that he complains about when other posters put one up in a another section. I don't think this a logical fallacy but it most certainly is a double standard. I see questions posted asking when other posters have last been to a certain area or made a report. But others who have posted in the same section that they are offshore and counting the days to wheels down remain unchallenged. That once again is a double standard.
When a individual is writing from the white hot emotion of incorrect perceptions and knee jerk reactions that is fueled by a instigator willing to tell you lies, it's too much to expect that they will be paying attention to make a logical argument and avoid logical fallacies. I understand this. But the personal attacks when you don't even know someone, I don't get that. Most responses to my posts are emotionally based. There is only few select posters that have gone head to head with me and given me a WWF beat down on a logical basis. They know who they are. And I took it like a man in the arena, without the need for a PM cheer-leading section. You shouldn't be posting to a forum of men from an emotional basis. My advice is if your are then take a moment, pause and proofread your work carefully. I've assisted others with this process, they know who are and I still have the copies of their original work. My apologies for the digression. I don't like advice either.
There is no correct section for the majority of the most outstanding posts that I write (oh, there is a bit more of that self love). This post for example: Where should it go? Right here! That's where. I started my blog because no one was playing the game the way I choose to play it (read the responses to my initial posts in the Santo Domingo section). I wanted to talk about how I was making my moves in the game and not catch all the flack about this being the wrong place etc. The plan didn't work. My haters and critics followed me here.
The one thing I noticed is that everybody seems to have their thing. There is a MNLC (me not like casas) guy. There is MKOS (Me king of Sosua) guy. There is IDE4 you (I did everything for you) guy. There is 20 Year+ (I've been living here for 20 years plus) guy. There is IKEAE (I know everything about espanol) guy. These are not intended as insults, but as observations. And I'm not the only person that makes them. Reference is made to a Grownman post where he is also pointing out the particular characteristics of the cast of characters that make up the active posters of the Dominican Republic Forum. And I know you are trying to figure out who I am talking about (come on admit it).
I consider myself a sexual explorer. I hit the island playing the game one way and I evolved. If years after we have being doing something and we are doing it the exact same way then we have wasted our time. I can now get pussy on this island in almost any way I choose. I'm more like a utility man in baseball (except my playing field is the Dominican Republic). I couldn't play all the positions well, but I could play seven of the nine positions well enough to get my team through a inning or two or even a game if the coach needed me to.
People want to keep it real? If you goto Sosua (sexual tourism capital of the world which is not from me it's what's all over the internet about the place just look it up) you find a ho, you fuck a ho, you pay a ho, and the ho leaves. Nobody wants to read that story from anyone so we all spice it up with a few details (that some posters think should not be given) in order to make it more interesting and complicated than it really is. Maybe you can get a newbie to believe that there is something more complex about Sosua? But not a man who has more hours on this island than most of the sexual tourists posting up in here.
News Flash: Prostitution is legal in the Dominican Republic. If you have the ability to communicate you can ask any girl to be your prostitute and Slick Rick them. Now on a social level you are on your own there. But I've never faced a physical challenge here before. But I tend not go get into conflicts with individuals who have less to lose than I do. Being a larger human being on the dark side may help also. And before any of you mother fuckers get it twisted come with me on my barrio tour of Santo Domingo este and tell me I spend all my time in my apartment and never get out. "Everywhere that I go, I got people know, they got people they know so I suggest you lay low. "-Jay-Z.
I have people I trust that have seen my pictures and it's not any of the people others have listed in their posts. The friend who encouraged me to move to the Dominican Republic has seen a picture of almost every girl I've ever fucked on the island. Sorry gentleman but he isn't part of the ISG ecosystem and does not want to be. And I understand that completely. He hears all my stories. And no I don't post everything here. And I don't want to hear it because others say the exact same thing.
No one can successfully challenge my Curriculum Vitae (of sex) in life or the Dominican Republic. Especially the self appointed expert that's only been living on the island for 8 months or the poster who claims to have retired here but really lives full time in Florida and visits for one month at a time and lives in hotel or fully furnished apartments while he is here. The only ones I present my CV to are my true friends in life. They know who they are and I don't have to brag about them here.
Goto the doctor, have surgery, buy a vehicle, rent an apartment and start with four bare walls and your first trip to the hardware store is to buy light bulbs. Go through the process of having your electricity turned on, signing a legal contract to lease your apartment. Open your bank account here in the Dominican Republic. Create jealousy (accidently) in the family of the "hottest chick on the island" wearing your chain because you brought her back a pair of Levi's 535 jeans. I have knocked off things on my non existent "bucket list" and have stories to tell only those that live here believe.
Build a harem from scratch using Dominican cupid and google translator to communicate. Bust your nut in the mouth of the first four women you meet (with three of the four swallowing) after you hit the island and have them all ask to be your girlfriend after the first sexual encounter.
When I tell you I don't know about any of that shit about the problems people have with girls on the island I'm telling you the truth. Everything has not been perfect. But I've never been ripped off by a girl. Only by the male hustlers on the island. And everytime that happened it was over some home improvement issues involving my apartment. Yes, it pissed me off. But it was my bad. But I learned every time and it was a payment of tuition in the school of hard knocks.
When people want to brag about taking me to a puta pueblo I laugh. I went on adventure and returned to my harem in Santo Domingo whom (with the exception of one. You know who that was Mr. Grownman. You saw the picture) fucked me better and were hotter than any of the girls I fucked in Sosua or Boca Chica. The real question is can men have difference opinions, different experiences and express them in the open forum anymore?
I'm a "by any means necessary" kind of person. I don't turn the other cheek. But I do believe that if you don't start no shit there won't be no shit. And if someone breaks bad on me, I have no problem finishing what they started. I want everyone to enjoy themselves when the come to the island. I want them to travel to places where the real Dominicans are. And I don't want them being misled because some posters think they know it all or that they have some ax to grind with me on a personal basis. This is a hand extended in friendship, a "olive branch" so to speak to all my haters and critics. My lethal weapon has alway been my mind, but like a phaser in Star Trek, I keep it on stun.
From the light side or from the dark side: Be strong in the ways of the pussy. And may the pussy with you, always!
*No hooka was smoked or rum drank before the posting of this message.
Enjoy my work!
Catalana? When I was looking to buy, I wanted to check it out. Realtor never called back. Drove by a few times.
View is nice but literally nothing around it. I need to be near bars, restaurants and amenities. I like walking. Would not walk avenida espana at night. You were smart to rent. There are a few other residences on esoana that went downhill fast. In fact the buildings east of it now look very chopo.
I hate driving and want an area with stuff to do within walking distance. Also as you dound out not having a planta sucks. I decided buying in a building with llanta full, gymn and rooftop terrace with ocean view made more sense. Within five min walking Inhabe itakian, spanish and argentinan. 6-8 and way more options, including 17 movie screens, food court, killer ice cream, great coffee spots two ok supermarkets, big mall, and even andre's carne LOL.
[QUOTE=Prtyr2;2185969]View is nice but literally nothing around it. I need to be near bars, restaurants and amenities. I like walking. Would not walk avenida espana at night. You were smart to rent. There are a few other residences on esoana that went downhill fast. In fact the buildings east of it now look very chopo.[/QUOTE]Brother,
You are dead on point about Torres Catalanas. When I first moved here I walked in, saw the view and that was it. For me it was a lifetime dream come true. Fast forward a few years and I'm tired of the deficiencies I've found in the building that I didn't even know to look for when I first moved here.
Over the years Santo Domingo este has changed quite a bit. And so have I. Now although I see the benefits of "the other side" (TOS), I still feel I'm too barrio to fit in over there. Everything I need is on this side of the bridge now. Although I still enjoy the amenities of TOS like the theater at Blue Mall. Heading over the bridge without traffic is a pleasure but the odds of finding a time to do that are longer than rolling a hard six! Santo Domingo este has everything I need and I can roll out for what it does not have.
Avenida Espana is old news now. The new up and coming spot is San Isidro. Two brand new grocery stores from the ground up (Bravo & Jumbo); A major remodeling of La Sirena; A newly constructed PriceSmart opened this month. And two new malls are going up. Long term business owners are tearing down their building and putting up new ones. Two new apartment housing projects and this is just up to Charles DeGuelle. Further east along San Isidro it is straight blowing up. With housing apartment developments and new homes going up faster than Trump tweets. And they are improving the old neighborhoods with street lighting. Things are really changing all over the greater Santo Domingo Metro area. Third world country my ass! Anyone who calls it that simply has not been here and looked at it with their own eyes. Even one of my critics that I took on tour of Santo Dominigo este had to admit that he did't know about the extent of the development in the area (helps to get out of the puta pueblos every once and a while).
Rent first is the advice (yeah I know, I hate advice too) I'd give to anyone considering living here and purchasing property or even a vacation home. My desires have changed from when I first put boots on the ground. View is no longer everything to me. Even with the Gran Jefe mobile at my disposal I prefer to only fire it up for major errands and cross country movements. We all live and learn. And I'll be the first to admit that you couldn't tell me shit when I first moved here. I've learned a lot from from quite a few people and through my personal experiences.
Failure at everything in life, fried brain, no class, and bad Spanish, but I learn from my mistakes and I have no plans to repeat them in the future especially when it comes to my housing arrangements.
There are cool places that are more "barrio" on the other side.
Out by the cabanas on independencia are residencials with sea views but.
Also no planta full etc. I lived out on san isidro back in 2002. One of first.
Zonas with high speed internet. The more time you spend there, the more the barrio loses it's vibe.
Go to car wash magnoli on san isidro on weekends. Lots of waitresses, some tables with single ladies and even.
Two casa chicas stopped by I guess on their day off. Live band was setting up but I was beat so I bailed early.
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;2186096]Brother,
You are dead on point about Torres Catalanas. When I first moved here I walked in, saw the view and that was it. For me it was a lifetime dream come true. Fast forward a few years and I'm tired of the deficiencies I've foin the building that I didn't even know to look for when I first moved here.
Over the years Santo Domingo este has changed quite a bit. And so have I. Now although I see the benefits of "the other side" (TOS), I still feel I'm too barrio to fit in over there. Everything I need is on this side of the bridge now. Although I still enjoy the amenities of TOS like the theater at Blue Mall. Heading over the bridge without traffic is a pleasure but the odds of finding a time to do that are longer than rolling a hard six! Santo Domingo este has everything I need and I can roll out for what it does not have.
Avenida Espana is old news now. The new up and coming spot is San Isidro. Two brand new grocery stores from the ground up (Bravo & Jumbo); A major remodeling of La Sirena; A newly constructed PriceSmart opened this month. And two new malls are going up. Long term business owners are tearing down their building and putting up new ones. Two new apartment housing projects and this is just up to Charles DeGuelle. Further east along San Isidro it is straight blowing up. With housing apartment developments and new homes going up faster than Trump tweets. And they are improving the old neighborhoods with street lighting. Things are really changing all over the greater Santo Domingo Metro area. Third world country my ass! Anyone who calls it that simply has not been here and looked at it with their own eyes. Even one of my critics that I took on tour of Santo Dominigo este had to admit that he did't know about the extent of the development in the area (helps to get out of the puta pueblos every once and a while).
Rent first is the advice (yeah I know, I hate advice too) I'd give to anyone considering living here and purchasing property or even a vacation home. My desires have changed from when I first put boots on the ground. View is no longer everything to me. Even with the Gran Jefe mobile at my disposal I prefer to only fire it up for major errands and cross country movements. We all live and learn. And I'll be the first to admit that you couldn't tell me shit when I first moved here. I've learned a lot from from quite a few people and through my personal experiences.
Failure at everything in life, fried brain, no class, and bad Spanish, but I learn from my mistakes and I have no plans to repeat them in the future especially when it comes to my housing arrangements.[/QUOTE]
My main chica lives in that area, and the apartment complex is nice and quiet. The only thing that I hate is driving in the area, especially at night. Most of the time I make her drive her fathers car. So much traffic, especially motos, and the lack of real lanes in certain areas make me nervous over there.
[QUOTE=Troubleman69;2186862]My main chica lives in that area, and the apartment complex is nice and quiet. The only thing that I hate is driving in the area, especially at night. Most of the time I make her drive her fathers car. So much traffic, especially motos, and the lack of real lanes in certain areas make me nervous over there.[/QUOTE]They repaved the road and didn't paint any lanes. Just one big ass black top. That was some bullshit, like you said especially at night.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2186889]They repaved the road and didn't paint any lanes. Just one big ass black top. That was some bullshit, like you said especially at night.[/QUOTE]With all of the negative comments about driving in the DR, I swear that was the only time I was nervous. And for long stretches they didn't have street lights. I don't know if the power was out or what. A couple of days later, I cancelled a date with another chick I know, because she wanted to meet over there.
Spoiler alert: The following post has no information that will help you get laid. Horny ones have been advised (donk, donk).
I'm going to list a series of statements about the Dominican Republic, ISG and myself that were sent to me by a well known (at least in some circles) visitor and poster who now claims to have found paradise in a peaceful beach town in a country that remains undisclosed (at least to me) "where people love each other and the culture is based on respect". My first question after receiving this information given what I know about the individual who sent this to me was: "How the fuck do you fit in there then?" LOL! But I digress.
First statement that we will deal with is this one: "FYI those people in the DR who are sad to see you leave and happy to see you arrive are only happy for the money you donate to them, surprised you still haven't realized that after living in the DR so long."
This statement is more of a reflection of the author's inability to integrate further than his dick entering pussy for a few pesos exchanged after wheels down in the DR. LOL! His problem was he never really lived in the DR. He was just a bird. He flew in and he flew out. Furthermore he doesn't speak Spanish well. Trust me on that one. I've sat through enough meals with him listening to him muck up the most basic Spanish when ordering.
Now, I'm not knocking sexual tourism. You have never seen a post from me where I criticized another man for how he chose to use his leave or spend his money. A sexual tourist comes to the Dominican Republic seeking to fulfill his or her (yeah fellas the girls are getting tuned up too) sexual desires by paying for them in some form. That hardly qualifies as a donation. Since I've been known to slip a chica a few pesos in return for doing the wild thing and I live here, that would make me as one poster put it a 'Sexpat'.
The notion of a donation is a completely different subject. A donation is something given without expecting anything back. I do that too. Doing that makes me a philanthropist. Is my philanthropy a bad thing? I don't know. You would have to ask the author exactly what he meant by his statement. Because the author has a way of talking a lot of shit and practicing what he preaches. Just because I don't have billions of dollars to give to a foundation that then hires people to figure out the best way to give my money away because I'm so busy making more money does not make my meager contributions (I live check to check like the 800,000+ government workers who are being used at pawns in a political fight by the President of my country of origin) to individuals, corporations and governments any less valuable to those that receive them. You see even though the Dominican Republic is on the come up, there is still a lot of resource poverty and great wealth and income inequality (similar to my county of origin).
Let's start with my donations to the government of the Dominican Republic shall we. For every 1000 USD that I spend here the government collects 180 USD in the formal market. I also pay for a marbete to register my old vehicle that is more than 5 years old. I pay a tourist fee to enter the country and usually pay a overstay fee in order to leave. Since I routinely spend money in the Dominican Republic why wouldn't the government be sad to see me leave and happy to see me return. I know this to be true because every time I arrive numerous representatives from the Dominican government are waiting to see me when I arrive and are always there to give me a rousing send off when I leave.
When I'm stopped by the police (PN) I have often given a donation to the AFPR (Association for Police Refreshment). I'm not ever riding dirty so I've never had a traffic stop conducted on me. I am usually stopped at a checkpoint where the police are soliciting donations from upstanding citizens and respected visitors such as myself. This donation consists of 20 DOP and is given with the notation that it would allow one to buy a Coke at the closest colmado and still have 5 pesos left over. Lately, since the improvement in pay and pensions for the police, the last two time I have been stopped I was just questioned and sent on my way. Now when stopped by AMET they don't play. Their donations are based on the law. During my first year of vehicle ownership (Grand Jefe mobile) I failed to purchase a marbete on time so they stopped me (enforcement this year started on January 8th), impounded my vehicle and it cost me 4000 DOP overall to get it back. Needless to say I have not made that mistake again. I make my donation when I'm supposed to and purchase my marbete on time and display it proudly.
I have friends that pass through the Dominican Republic and live here. I donate a lot of alcohol to my friends when they visit me. They also donate lots of food and alcohol to me. I also donate my time and energy taking them places and showing them things. All have told me they appreciate it. And why shouldn't they? That's what real friends do. I'm always happy to see them arrive and sorry to see them go and it has nothing to do with their donations. LOL!
I get a haircut and a straight razor shave every week. My barber charges 200 DOP for the service I always tip 50 pesos. That 50 pesos is a donation. How do I know this? Because every time I give him a 500 DOP note he gives me back 300 DOP in change and I have to give him the 50 DOP tip. Never assumes that he is going to get it. He has a baby was born with medical problems. Severe medical problems the type where doctors are not certain if he will make it through his first year. I've held his son. I've given his son clothes and pampers. After seeing his son sleeping on the couch I increased the fortunes of Mr. Bezos and ordered a boxinete for his son then paid for it to be shipped here. You can't even buy stuff of that quality here. I know because I did my research. When his son was in the hospital I brought them a packet of baby wipes. I invite all to post and let me know if you think what I did shows somehow that I don't understand what I am doing? That I don't realize that they are appreciative of my "donations" or that the only reason I get smiled and welcomed into their business and home is because of my "donations". You see every time I go for my haircut I'm invited upstairs (he and his wife live above his shop). I'm offered something to eat and drink. Every time! It's a nice view up there. And sometimes I enter the shop and he has five or six other customers waiting for him. They are not invited upstairs.
I put a kid in futbol camp. Cost me 500 DOP. There goes another one of my donations. Got a group picture of his class via whatsup. Just so we can keep this shit in perspective I paid 1840 DOP for a bottle of Aviand aejo tequila. It's good stuff! I recommend it. Bottle had been on the shelf at Ron Depot so long it was collecting dust. I pay 250 DOP consistently when I go thru the drive thru of the new Burger King on San Isidro. After I spend some time internally processing the DOP I spent on these things wind up in the toilet. Just saying.
"FYI those people in the DR who are sad to see you leave and happy to see you arrive are only happy for the money you donate to them, surprised you still haven't realized that after living in the DR so long. ".
Really, my brother? Are you actually that self involved, that cynical that you have lost your humanity? I'm glad you have found your spot where you can focus on self and ignore the plight of others in your life there (if you have any other). I'm not that type of person. And although it may not be the right thing for you to do, it is the right thing for me. And that is how I'm comfortable living my life. For the sake of your own humanity I suggest that you stop being a critic of others and focus on living your life well. Reaching outside of yourself may be the key to finding your inner peace. It's not some particular place. No place is perfect.
I don't have a warrant out for my arrest in my country of origin so I don't need to hide out in another country trying to avoid extradition. I don't need to keep a secret about where I happen to be at any particular point. I spend my time between the Dominican Republic, The United States of America and Mexico. I have access to a fleet of jets from Delta Airlines that I use. Sometimes they even let me sit in first class. I got 99 problems living in Dominican Republic, but trust me on this: a chica ain't one. In fact I've come to the conclusion that it's a better place to visit and vacation in than to live. But I wouldn't have know any of this had I not actually lived here. Yes, I actually lived here. I wasn't a bird dropping bombs as I flew in and flew out. As a man in the arena I choose the ignore the critics, because although it's easy for them to be critics, they don't count. Take the road less traveled, be a man in arena. Be a man who counts!
Now back to my regularly scheduled enjoyment of life. I'm off the hooka. But still on the rum, with a little tequila and vodka thrown in to keep it fresh.
I just looked at a advertisement online where the following offer was made:
Hola Cario, Mi nombre es Madelin. Chica Educada why bonita Dominicana de 18 aos de edad. 💲1. 500 1 Hora💲2. 000 la hora 2 eyaculaciones Vaginal why sexo oral💲3. 000 2 horas 4 eyaculaciones why sexo oral💲4. 000 3 horas 6 eyaculaciones why sexo oral ATIENDO A APARTAMENTOS HOTELES why CABAAS Todo con Protecciand 7 mil la noche desde las 11 pm hasta las 8 am del thea siguiente o acordando horario con trato de pareja Toda la Noche.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2276319]Man also said he paid 7700 for overnight. You think he could not get a girl from CT for that?[/QUOTE]Example of the strawman logical fallacy. You are attacking a position I do not hold. I was not addressing that issue. Your question also contains the "appeal to ignorance" logical fallacy as ignorance is not proof of anything except that one does not know something. No, I do not know the price of all night chica takeout from Casa Teresa costs. And neither do you because if you did you would have given us some factual information. But since the last time I was in Casa Teresa I was quoted 4500 DOP and hour, If I was running the house over night exit would have to to be at lease 7000 - 8000 DOP. That's my thought straight no chase without any logical fallacy mixed in. There is also a report that said "todo la noche" is 7000 DOP. Seems 7000 - 8000 DOP is the going rate when quotes for overnights are being given. I've only been living here almost five years, I just might of picked up on a few things here and there.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2276319]Just because a person did not purchase the lobster, does not mean they have never been to the restaurant.[/QUOTE]Is the restaurant you are referring in Casa Teresa because I was not aware there was a restaurant in the place. That's the "red herring" logical fallacy.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2276319]So you are saying there is a train from Puerto Plata to Santo Domingo? [/QUOTE]Once again you engaged in the "strawman" logical fallacy as that is not position that you can attribute to me. Feel free to review what I actually wrote in my post and I'm sure since you have good reading comprehension skills you will be able to answer your own question.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2276319]I drive everywhere, so how would I know if there was a train covering that route or not.[/QUOTE]That is the "causal" logical fallacy. It's impossible for me to know what you have learned from driving everywhere in the Dominican Republic nor is it possible for you to know what I have learned during the almost 5 years I have lived here in the Dominican Republic. In my opinion (and there is nothing humble about it) your audience would be better serviced by direct statements from you instead of seres of logical fallacies that wastes everyones time fails to provide any information.
Do you have any actual factual information to share or would you simply like to continue to share your logical fallacies and opinions?
Let me start by saying I'm responding to a post from Brother P here as I have no new information to add that I consider useful to others. This is my blog and so this post is designed make a point.
[QUOTE=Prtyr2;2279479]I said walleska went legit. Not sure why that bothered you. If working in a clothing store instead of selling pussy is not legit to you fine. Most people got what I meant.[/QUOTE]Nothing you do Brother P bothers me. I bother you. A review of your posts responding to mine will quickly indicate that. It should be noted I'm not most people. I'm exceptional. And although I'm flattered at your need to improve my understanding of things most of the time is not necessary.
[QUOTE=Prtyr2;2279479]For the record 17 years fulltime, three years previous were on and off. Have rented 8 places, lived in a pension for aboit 7 months and bought one apt. My first apt near you on ave espana was in 1999. The first DR map for mongers was on an old website I did. Before google maps, facebook, youtube etc. When they closed all the places in Gazcue, allen who had Cisne briefly after he had a place off charles de gaulle wrote me and asked me to kill the site as there was a lot of "heat", so I did. Back then there were a ton of places in Gazcue alone and seeing dudes walk into an unmarked MP or casa holding a printout of my hand drawn on computer map. BTW the longest thread by far on Allen's old UG site is by me as well. All about Ficha bars. Ficha bars are very similar to Piano bars but piano bars do not have fichas, all based on propinas.[/QUOTE]Well hasn't technology progress quite a bit since you hit the island Brother P? A most impressive history Brother P. But does that make anything I have said inaccurate or invalid? Let me tell you that history is not what I'm interested in when I look at the Santo Domingo forum. Guys with lots of experience relating stories about the glory days (not just you Brother P many others do it also) may be entertaining but they are not useful for me. Let me explain it to you this way: My most important nut was my last nut. I'm not pining away about nuts I busted years ago or for that matter significant achievements from years back. Furthermore, I do not let my experience in the country blind me to the fact that the experiences of others may be very different. My experiences based on a longer history on the island than someone else do not invalidate the experiences of others. But this is a reoccurring theme in the posts of individuals in the Dominican Republic forum, and of yours Brother P. YMMV is just an expression but is often very true. I'm quick to note that there is no way anyone's experiences can mirror mine because they are not me and therefore unlikely to do things like me. And why do you post your assumptions that are not true?
[QUOTE=Prtyr2;2279479]If you actually wanted info instead of back and forth you learned what the laws are in DR and what a Fiscalia is.[/QUOTE]I'll let you in on a secret my man, of all the posts you have written I have learned very little info from them. Unless you think attitude is useful information for me and others. You think I didn't know what a fiscalia is? Wrong again about me Brother P. I know all about fiscalias. FYI, I have appeared before three different ones and beat the rap every time. But your comment completely missed the idea I was trying to convey: the sharing of useful information for others. Even though I knew what a fiscalia was others may have not. I would hate to see the Santo Domingo forum deteriorate into the Sousa chat type of forum. I'm focused on the sharing information.
[QUOTE=Prtyr2;2279479]As for Piano bars.
Mamayes. up on tiradentes
XXOO. around the block from Mamayes
Puro Caf in Villa Agricolas down the block from Par de 55 which is now Don Juan Caf bar and was across the street from Conejitas. Taxi drivers did not like going to Villa Agricolas.
Jotas Bar whch is on Nunez and would be walking distance from me if it was still around. Loved that place.
Jey Jey. On Romulo after Baba Lu but became a cafeteria. Most Jotas girls went there when Jotas closed. A girl that worked there now runs Mambo and is the wife ir GF of the manager.
Baba Lu. I took maybe twenty Dominican buddies there and none had no idea it existed. Walk into liquor store. Un marked door in the back of the store but inside the store. Open door and maybe twenty hot chicas at 3 in the PM. First place that started having colombianas..[/QUOTE]Finally a post that contains useful information. Mission accomplished! This is some of your work that I actually enjoyed.
And now, I'll return to my regularly scheduled enjoyment of life.
[QUOTE=Bravo;2299298]because my 2 regular girls won't want to go to a "puta hotel" in Sosua. (Yes, I know guests brinng hoes to Victorian house but it isn't as blatant or common as the other hotels in sosua).[/QUOTE]This statement supports my view that Prostitution is legal but not accepted in all circles in the Dominican Republic.
Can I get a witness?
This was written in the Blackbeards Resort User Blog.
[QUOTE=Yanqui69;2296565]Nice report. Comprehensive, and to the point. Good to see trip reports back on the thread, which is why the thread exists. Muchas gracias.[/QUOTE]It was followed up by this:
[QUOTE=CharlesPooter;2296654]Surely you do not prefer fact-filled trip reports to the ten-paragraph posts on the theory of mongering?[/QUOTE]Actually I do prefer fact-filled trip reports. It would seem that there needs to be a Santo Domingo Chat forum and they could use one for Sousa also since it seems like those with diarrhea of the keyboard simply cannot keep negative commentary to themselves while pinning away for their return to the island.
Yes, you can tell someone to RTTF, but it you have to slog through the swap of lame ass commentary about dick slanging, chest beating, where in the world the pussy is better and extreme one upsmanship before you get to some substantial usable information about having sex with girls on the island.
Just my opinion on what I read. I can drop out for six months at a time, return and in the Dominican Republic Forum it's like time stands still.
Very strange that a man who claimed in several email exchanges that he no longer posted on ISG and that others (like Mr. E) had moved on also is back again living in the past and bragging about something he did with me (not for me) years ago.
Let's set the record straight I sent a cease and desist notification to this individual who threatened me with physical body harm one time and then another time threatened me with death. This is the same individual claiming he did so much for me. That is the core of the obsession. The idea that I owe him something or need something from him. The block on whatsapp occurred after the threats. And I tapped that button. So, I guess the conversations he had with me were lies and empty threats. Because I'm still here. All you have to do is read several of his posts to see the level of his emotional imbalance when it comes to the Subcmdr. Or you can PM me and I'll share our personal email correspondence and you can judge for yourself.
Remember the universal law of reciprocity in interpersonal relations: 95% of the time when you don't like somebody, they don't like you either.
[QUOTE=Oakie;2300738]Oh yes "we" are! LOL.
This is just bar talk, been going on forever.
Some mongers who contantly buy sex have frail egos, reps and street cred to maintain. Especially so with the crowd that mongers and hangs together, or used to!
It often turns into a pissing match and sometimes a circle jerk, always ready to jump all over a newbie, with their own fisherman's tales.
"Quality" of chicas is in the eye of the beholder, hence "true value", and of all the photos that have been posted here, I don't recall any I'd be personally interested in fucking!
The result is that newbies get tired of the BS and move on and leave the forum to the old "experts" here. Or they just don't tell the truth anymore about their fishing trips.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the history lesson Mr. Oakie. You are one of the men in the arena. I started posting here in 2015. So it's been going on for that long. Was it the same thing before my time?
I've got 1825 days living on the island. Most of my personal critics to not live on the island. So most to have spent an equivalent time over the last 10 years they would have need to spent 182.5 days a year here. That's more vacation days a year than the average working man has. Mere time on the island means nothing if you aren't doing anything with it. Lucky for me that hasn't been the case.
The idea of the forum is to share information on fucking girls on the island. It really does not matter how you want to find the girls to do that. Payment, online, pulling them from clubs, Day Game in malls, random street meetings, personal introductions, bars, piano bars, casas. At the end of the day the men in the arena are talking about what they have done. Our critics are taking about what we have done.
Critics are going to be critical, but if the critics are also going to read your posts just to know what you are up to, so I don't really care. If you are a critic who is still reading my blog then you are doing so just to be critical of me. If you then feel the need to comment on it even if you don't mention the SubCmdr I'm on your mind and as always happy to share my thoughts and opinions with you.
No matter how critical any particular person happens to be of me, they don't matter. Because it is not the critic that counts. Only the man in the arena!
This post is about a casa.
So me no like casa guy should not have any interest in it. Nor should anyone that questions the validity of my posts. That would include I like big boobies guy who thinks I am a "effin jerk" and does not want to met me anywhere in the world. Strange I don't remember extending an invitation to him. Non pro expert guy that talks a lot of shit and finds my personality annoying. He needs to get up off his knees, put his big boy pants on, stop shilling for other members posting on here and admit you made a very simple mistake. Or is Google Maps wrong? Next time don't kill the messenger. Own your error! Full Stop. Not interested in taking man lessons from you. Real men can make a mistake and be corrected without screaming like as the former Governor of California would say "a girly man".
But first I shall digress to address a few issues: Santo Domingo province was created as a separate municipality in 2001. The dividing line is the Ozama River. That means all geographical features including a street named Venezuela is in Santo Domingo Este. If there is a business located on that street it would be in Santo Domingo Este. If you find this information mentally disturbing, offensive, or disrespectful tough! Deal with it. If you been one of those around so long on ISG that you missed the change I understand that.
But I've lived in Santo Domingo este since I moved to the island. That's the different between the SubCmdr and a lot of other people that post on ISG. I post from a base of street knowledge and could give a fuck about board credibility. Why? Board credibility does not get me laid or anyone else.
Factual correct information that allows me to find and bed girls is what gets me laid. And would guess that's what most of the readership is looking for also. The question that remains in my mind is: Why don't my critics just put me on ignore if you don't want to read my posts or respond to my personal messages? There is a help function to explain the process. And this process is not just available for me, my critics should feel free to use it on anyone they disagree with or find annoying. Respect is earned!
I'm not here for the book of face or grams that be instant. My apologies to the other members for having to wade through the posts made by those failing to share information, that instead having a desire to conduct their personal business and make their criticisms of others in the main forum as a way to develop board credibility and favoritism.
In my opinion, much of it should be handed through the Personal Message system but instead they choose to make the main forum their personal chat room. But I'm not running things up in here. So don't hate the player, hate the game! Now shall we return to sharing information about having sex with girls? We shall see.
I fired up the Gran Jefe mobile and headed out of Santo Domingo Este. When I crossed over the Ozama River I entered Santo Domingo. I know stuff like this because I live here. Rolled up on Young Dude and he hopped in. We hit the road. He showed me some of the pictures hot girls he be working with that I hadn't already seen and just like the other ones they were smoking hot (in my opinion of course). Prolific poster guy and I like big bobbies guy need to take note of this. The Subcmdr and Young Dude also had a nice discussion during the ride to our destination. We were on the search for day casas.
The Penthouse (Ph).
Through a whatsapp conversation with the representative I learned that the Ph was open from 10 AM to 2 AM the next day. Price of service is 1 hour 2 ejaculations. It is located off of Avenida 27 Febrero on Calle Caonabo in Plaza Irene II, Santo Domingo Oeste, Santo Domingo. Send me a PM for the phone number or you can find them online. It's in a commercial plaza that is very busy during the day, but deserted at night. You go up four flights of stairs and it's a unmarked door on your right.
I rung the bell and a old man came to the door looking like we woke him up. He paused a little like he was confused, then told us to wait a minute. He left the security on the door with it cracked. A few minutes later he then came back and let us in. We were led into a salon area that was well lighted with two metal chairs. It is a two story establishment. I could see into one of the bedrooms. The place looked clean. Out came a blonde who told us her name was Tatiana. She was about a 6 in looks with an average body. Average face. She made a little small talk with me and I asked her if there were more girls than her. She told me one other and she came down from the upstairs. She was a 4 and gordita. Not either of our cup of tea. I would have done the blonde and so we asked when there were more girls in house. We were told after 7 PM.
Back on the road in search of day casas. I heard there was one over on the rich side and I had been there before. But it had been a while and when I last hit with one of my road dogs, I wasn't driving and was deep into the crown. So and we drove around a bit but could not find it. It's a casa that always has a full house of 6 to 8 girls and they operate from 10 AM - 10 PM that is their specialty. Holla at me or post it up if you know what I'm talking about.
Back to the Ph. Once you are in their mailing list you get a message from them each morning. I hit the representative back and told them I visited yesterday and there were only two girls in the house. They asked me when I visited. I told them 4 PM. They said OK. I asked at what hour will there be more girls there. They did not respond. They sent Young Dude fake pictures. And I saw their advertisement online today and they are also using fake pictures.
May the pussy be with you. Always!
Mega Centro- Speed Dating Dominican Style.
Walk up to a girl; greet her; complement her; ask for her phone number; ask if she is doing anything right now. Invite her to have a bite to eat in the food court. Buy her something to eat. Afterwards invite her to the cabana or your room. If she says yes, it's on.
If she says no, it isn't over yet. Send her on her way but keep in touch with her via whatsapp. Invite her to the cabana or straight to your room the next day. If she says no at that point all you have lost is your time and the 250 pesos you spent on her for lunch. You got to no quickly. You still had to eat and you made more than one approach that day right?
But you have to execute the lunch date correctly. You eat where you want to eat. Do not ask her where she wants to go. Take the lead and make the order for both of you. Dominicans are a sharing people so she's going to want to try what you are having anyway. The most you need to do is figure out if she likes beef, chicken or fish so you can at least order her something that she likes on a basic level. During this time eating together spend it asking her questions and even if your Spanish is not great find some way to communicate using hand gestures or pointing at things. Say the english word and ask her how you say it in Spanish. All of this is to simply build rapport, making eye contact, smiling and lowering her inhibitions through familiarity. If the vibe is right and you are ready to escalate do not hesitate to tell her you want to spend more time with her in a more private setting and invite her to the cabana or to your hotel room.
Yes, it's that simple gentlemen. You are selling the dream of potential but they know if the panties don't drop immediately they are going to lose that opportunity. Most will not want to take that loss. It's a "right now" culture in the Dominican Republic. They worry about tomorrow when it gets here. Make whatever promises you are comfortable making except when it comes to money. Her immediate request for money is a red flag that should cause you to what Snoop Dogg says and "drop her like she's hot". Remember you have already done something for her (bought lunch / food / desert / drink). Once you have done that you can say maybe all the time and still have an opportunity because she is looking for the next thing you are going to do for her.
The example given above is of actual mall day game in Santo Domingo Este. You can apply the same basic principles to all approaches during the day. Take your cue from how she's dressed. If she seems to be headed to work or getting lunch you have to swoop in and get straight after it. Get that number and keep moving. At most find out when she gets off work or her day off.
One of the reasons I prefer Mega Centro over the upscale malls like Galeria 360, Acropolis and Blue Mall is the down to earth accessibility of the girls roaming around that mall. I have to admit that I'm biased. I started out making approaches in that mall and I also feel the girls there are more attractive than in the other malls. But that's because I'm so barrio myself. I prefer barrio girls over all others. I cut my teeth making approaches in colmados in and around Zona Colonia. Right behind my first apartment in Santo Domingo Este it was straight barrio.
You see barrio is a type not a location. Because you can take the girl out of the barrio but you can't take the barrio out of the girl. You can find barrio girls that goto university and that have jobs. If their families live in the area chances are unless they are married or have kids they are going to stay close to their family and the area where they grew up. So being a barrio girl can have absolutely nothing to do with their actual socio economic position within Dominican society. Keep that in mind everywhere you go in the Dominican Republic.
"Yeah shorty's bad, but she broke and she don't own shit" - Migos can apply to the hot girl that has caught your eye in Blue Mall that just running around and faking the funk as it can to a barrio girl shaking that big ole ass in Mega Centro.
Much success to you gentlemen and good hunting!
Afterward.
This is non-pro advice. You don't have to bother with it if you are chasing putas. With putas all over the island you just have to find one, make a deal with her, fuck her, pay her, puta leaves. It's really no more complicated than that. You just got to know where the putas be at in any particular location you happen to be in on the island.
Now there are those that claim that I'm a know it all. That I post to try and show off my intelligence. I do not post for that reason. I don't know it all. But I know a lot. I'm very intelligent but the knowledge I share here has come from actually living on the island for years.
Look at the posts of these same individuals claiming I know it all and being critical of my writing. They post nothing useful nor provide any tips to new individuals to the Dominican Republic on how to actually pull girls (non pros) in different situations. Now they talk about doing it. And I can name names but I won't because they know who they are and you do too.
Remember while some were claiming to hold my hand, walking me around a puta pueblo nearly three years ago, by the time that happened I had actually lived on the island for more days than they ever visited over the last 10 years. I had put together a harem of six girls from non pros. And I was already doing the things they are just now talking about being able to do in retrospect. Better yet, I experienced it first hand, made my mistakes, posted about them. Took much written abuse from many and yet I am still here throwing up posts like this one. Posts that share actual information on how to have sex with girls in the Dominican Republic.
Although I enjoyed my visit to the puta pueblos of Sosua and Boca Chica. Not a single girl that I was with was more attractive or gave me better sex than any of the girls in my harem or for that matter my booty call girls. And the putas all cost me more and that's not even factoring in having to pay for the hotel room (none of them compared to the view had had of the ocean from my apartment), food away from home (my harem would cook for me) and the over all hassle of having to pack and travel. I haven't been back to Sosua. But Boca Chica is a lot closer and I've visited there a bit more.
You can disagree with my methods, but instead of being just being critical, take time to share the actual techniques you use to successfully pull girls of all type on the island. And I don't mean that bullshit "I goto clubs and pull girls". How some posts on how you actually did it?
You see there is not a shortage of girls here. The death nell to success is failing to have a mentality of abundance. It's said that every day hundreds of girls on the island turn 18. And it's true. If you don't want to fuck around with non pros the idea is not to brag and boast but to share what works for you no matter what type of girl you prefer or the methods you use to get her to wet your dick with her pussy.
But to talk to girls here you have to learn Spanish. I cannot emphasize this enough. It's like breaking the Enigma code. It's like being handed the keys to the kingdom. It's like unlocking the vault of endless pussy. It is a steep learning curve for sure. But one that pays dividends across 20 counties and over 400 million people world wide. Half of those are girls. How many girls are in your home country? Once you can talk to them if you are dealing with non pros you need to bring some degree of game to the table. A lot has to do with just being fearless.
Fuck all this talk about attractiveness and personality. It's been claimed by some that I'm fat, ugly, insecure, a elfin jerk, with an annoying personality that can't speak Spanish very well. But all those personal opinions of me have never stopped me from getting my dick wet and busting a nut with what I consider to be hot young girls (and even a few ugly ones). That should give you some insight into why critics don't matter.
Approach, Approach, Approach and Approach some more. Do it with confidence. That alone is attractive. Domincanas are approached all the time. They say no a lot. But pretty much the only ones that say no have husbands and boyfriends. And the idea is to get to no quickly anyway. You got to be able to take a no and just move on. And if you are going to post up in here you got to be able to ignore the critics keep doing what you are doing. And keep posting about it just like me.
Get your clothing in order. Not flashy or expensive. Neat clean and don't look like a tourist on vacation. Look around and see what other Dominican males in your age range are wearing for clothing. Especially the ones with good looking girls. For 90 percent of the girls here surpassing the bar of the men they usually have the opportunity to hang out with is pretty low. You only need to just clear it to be a success.
I'm not here to win a flame war, have others praise me or count my responses to build my self confidence. I'll leave that to my critics and others. I'm in it for the pussy! I'm a man in the arena. I know that the critics don't count. Because they confuse style with substance. I provide substance. They don't like how I write. They post inaccurate information. I correct it and they have apoplectic fit. Man up!
If just one person reads anything I write and it helps them get some poosy. That's a win! And that makes me happy. Isn't that why were are all here? To bust a good nut? If not, then I can't do nothing for you man. Because, well that's why I'm here. And to share. Share what I've learned the hard way and what others have taught me.
It's the occasional personal contact that I make off of ISG that keeps me here. Yes, my initial experiences meeting people off ISG were all bad. But even one of those initial ones worked out well. Then I met a series of high quality people of like mind and that has made it all worth it.
Anyone with boots on the ground who would like to explore este can send me a personal message and I'll fire up the Gran Jefe mobile. As the expression goes: "I got a full tank of unleaded". I do this for the real brothers because overall it's personal meetings and the information shared with me by those individuals that has been the net plus for The Cmdr.
Side note: There is so much about the Dominican Republic that never winds up in ISG. I think it's because when somebody throws up a post about how they do something and it does not fit what (this small group of critics that populate the forum) they like to do they trash the methods and the person.
Board credibility has very little meaning for me. Post count, length of time on the board. Who cares? I sure don't. Talk to me about the number of remain overnights you have on the island. Post up useful information on what you actually do on this island. And save your personal opinions about people you have never met (non pro guy and big boob guy I'm talking to you) for yourself. Or come out from behind your keyboards. You know where to find me.
There are many brothers on here the have earned my respect. I don't need to list them here because they are not the type that thrive on self validation and promotion in the main forum. They know I respect them because they have answered my personal messages and shared useful information with me. And I have thanked them for it. I also return the favor when I can. Most are way more knowledgeable than me but often can't be bothered to even post anymore because they realize that the Dominican Republic forum has been played out for years. They have earned my respect because they understand and execute the real spirit of the forum. They are my fellow men in the arena. And all of us know that it is not the critic that counts.
May the pussy be with you. Always!
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;2312656]Mega Centro- Speed Dating Dominican Style.[/QUOTE]Excellent write up and suggestions. Personally I have never been to Mega centro but then I am kind of allergic to SD as it is a big city but I am, some what like you, drawn to anything "barrio". LOL! Indeed I would be curious to try it out at this location, once.
One caveat though: You are giving away the secrets and that might not be a good thing by overcrowding the field, eh? .
[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;2313088]Excellent write up and suggestions. Personally I have never been to Mega centro but then I am kind of allergic to SD as it is a big city but I am, some what like you, drawn to anything "barrio". LOL! Indeed I would be curious to try it out at this location, once.
One caveat though: You are giving away the secrets and that might not be a good thing by overcrowding the field, eh? .[/QUOTE]Thanks for the props brother. Hit me if you ever you ever get over your allergy. Trust me I understand. Santo Domingo and especially Santo Domingo este is very different in ways both good and bad from the way it was when I first arrived here.
Yes, I did give away secrets. I did it to show the difference in making a positive contribution to the sharing of information on having sex with girls instead of all of the chest beating, dick measuring and girly man chatting in the hen house that goes on in the regular forum. I started my blog to chat about non pros. It is a subject that gets ignored and when a poster does mention it in the regular forums usually there is no detailed information within. Even when I pointed to a place where you can find non pros and it was confirmed by another poster it was met with a personal assault by no less than three different critics that almost never post any useful information but go around patting each other on the back and I'm sure they are on their knees with each other in praise (and other unmentionables) when they get together. I'm not about that. And it was a error and serious misjudgment of character on my part to meet any of them initially. But I digress.
No fear of over crowding my brother. Many more than you have an allergy to Santo Domingo / Santo Domingo este. I've been told to stay in Santo Domingo este by people who don't even know that Venezuela Avenue is in Santo Domingo este not Santo Domingo. Took another person to confirm what I showed them in a screen shot of google maps (I guess they thought I photoshopped the screen shot).
Many do not want to mess with non-pros because they are more hassle than pay for play with putas. Quite honestly I'm not sure I would mess with them if I was on a clock from wheels down to wheels up. But I'm not. So I have time to play no matter how tough the girl game is. It's one reason I favor online interaction. I don't have to waste my time vetting girls in person. I'm not running all over the two cities chasing pussy. Pussy comes to me. If a girl wants a full blown dinner date before she drops the panties I'm not down with that. Coffee, lunch or drink is all that on offer with this brother. If they are not down with that then I'm moving on.
Remember what I said about hundreds of girls turning 18 every day on the island. It's true. It's the mentality of abundance and I'm all for sharing in the abundance because I didn't know a thing about it until someone shared the idea with me. And no it wasn't the new self appointed SEA expert who claims he did everything for me (that claim is the REAL weird shit).
No, It was a buddy that moved here a year before I did. He doesn't even read the forum or post here. We had taken a trip together to the island about 3 years before and I stopped coming because I liked the place so much that I went back home to clean up my affairs in country of origin so I could spend as much time down here as I wanted. Who starts off in Santo Domingo for their first trip to Republica Dominicana? I did. Who suggests that you start like that? Well let's just say I don't see many suggestions in the main forum that you do it like me. And why should you if you are not like me?
But, now anyone who is interested in running day game in Santo Domingo, Santo Domingo este, Santiago (which I've been told is a tough nut to crack on the non pro side) has a guide. Anyone who wants do what I did (and still do) has a guide that contains solid useable information (actionable intelligence my brothers). They can take what works for them and modify it for their needs. Even my haters ain't got shit to say now because I'm the real deal and always have been. They just don't like my style of doing things and especially they way I write about it. Like Young Jezzy says: "I talk it like I did it cause I lived it by the way".
LOL!
May the pussy be with you always!
Afterward: Light rain in Santo Domingo este as I write this. Which of my critics can give me a weather report on where they are right now?
I had the occasion to be out on the street at night (yes, I do that too). I was rolling along Las Vegas Boulevard (I call San Isidro east as you cross over Charles DeGulle that because it's lit up a little like Las Vegas due to all the cabanas. My critics, you have seen that right?) And I see no less than six to ten putas sitting around the cabanas waiting for a pick up. Now the gran jefe mobile was already filled up and I was heading for my own close encounter of the sexual kind already. Looked at my watch it was three in the morning!
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;2315857]Many do not want to mess with non-pros because they are more hassle than pay for play with putas. Quite honestly I'm not sure I would mess with them if I was on a clock from wheels down to wheels up. But I'm not. So I have time to play no matter how tough the girl game is.[/QUOTE]I cannot speak for others but non-pro (actually a semi pro is more apt) is the only way for me even when I rarely stay longer than a week. I cannot remember when was the last time I got one in Sosua from the streets. It also means that I do not have to negotiate a price or have other issue often spoken of here. Most women I invite wait for you to hold their hand to lead and I do not see any rush. Indeed it is often I that has to suggest that they leave. But all that calls for some advance work that I do on line and given that I am not going to marry anyone, online interactions and photos have so far worked fine with me. I am sure there are quite a few people like you, who follow the same playbook but do not advertise it, reason why I said "kudos" to you for writing about it.
[QUOTE=AlexDeuce;2324821]IMO if you have been coming to DR for more than a year and you are still dependent on pros your doing something wrong.[/QUOTE]I'm a bit confused by this comment. Didn't the conversation start about streetwalkers? If they are not "Pros" who are?
[QUOTE=AlexDeuce;2323801]I thought we were talking about streetwalkers? I been here long enough I don't need pros anymore nor advice. There are several casas that un mil will get you one pop and go outside of the tourist traps.[/QUOTE]Well then I guess we were talking about streetwalkers after all. Care to share information on the several 1000 DOP for one pop casas that you mentioned in your post?
Non pros are the best. Been talking about them since I hit the island. The last trip I relied on pros was my first trip.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2324791]I remember posting reports saying that exact kind of thing in this forum (get a chick and just give her 1000 the next day when you are ready for her to leave) while other members were posting crazy stuff like negotiating and paying 2000 and 3000. And I'm like why are y'all paying so much? I guess the other guys won out because now you got hoes asking 5 and 8 thousand. Fuck that.[/QUOTE]Nobody won out. It's the laws of supply and demand. Also the cost of living. Anyone who lives here and is not on the tourist economy where they are spending money like they are 1%'s know that the cost of living is going up. I see it every week in my grocery bill, combustibles and propane. A lot of you went to college but maybe not all of you did so well in economics. Quick review of laws of supply and demand might help. And for those advanced enough to handle it check out the concepts of Bounded Rationality.
[URL]https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/bounded-rationality/[/URL]
This is real talk. Notice how the writer gives actual experiences then his opinions and does not tell anyone else what to do. Others could learn from him instead of getting defensive and critical. Straight man in the arena talk here.
[QUOTE=YoungDude;2323497]I got a girl from tagged who is a 19 year old university student that was ready to spend 2 hours for 1 mil pesos with as many shots as you can and DFK and BBBJ. I guess it depends from non pros to pros. The pros (girls from the street or casas) know the prices and more about the business, so they want to hustle for the next client. But just offer them a propina of 100 or 200 pesos (2 or 4 dollars) so she can do 2 pops in an hour. There is no casa or club girl that can meet for 1000. I think the least was GBP for 1200. But when they have the special, they throw you in 2 girls for that price..[/QUOTE]Roll The Boss' music for the outro!
[QUOTE=Revere;2302460]Before you come at me with your worthless lectures and have been on this board long before your annoying personality came on. Why not show members here respect. If a member asks you not to send out there information then do not do it. Is that to much to ask from a grownman? Why not show that person respect. Your disrespectful and very insecure as a man. Your life not mine. Stop worrying about me and learn how to be a man and when someone asks you not to do something then do it. Not a lot to ask. Now is it. Do not send me a private email like you done in the past.[/QUOTE]Before you come at me with assumptions and statements about something you know nothing about remember that I could care less about your time on the board. I've been reading your posts for the entire time I've been posting here. But I've failed to see you post anything that is close to being a comprehensive guide to the game that you claim to use to pull non-pros out of various venues across Republica Dominicana. Why? Is it due too fear insecurity or both? I have no such fears or insecurities. Reference is made to my guide to Day Game posted below. Now in fairness to you, if you posted it before I came onto this board please give me the reference. As I am always interested in solid, actionable information.
Before you become a shill for another grown man ask him why he is sending death threats to someone simply because he disagrees / dislikes him? Would you like to see the emails? Probably not as that would cause you to have to confront a inconvenient truth and require you to receive a private message from me. Instead of calling me out about respect, review your own posts for that consistent tone of superiority and constant lack of actionable information. Only an insure person such as yourself would make the statements as you do about other people. It's a projection. When you post incorrect information and I post correct information complete with screen shots and you have a meltdown combined with an apoplectic fit it indicates to me that you not in the position to lecture anyone (except the person you see in the mirror) about the actions of a grown man. Grown men can handle criticism when they are wrong and you clearly were. It's also fairly clear that at least in this forum you can't handle your man business.
My policy is to praise in public and to discuss differences in private. But since you didn't want a private message. This is my response to your rant.
The last post by Mr. E is one of the best posts in the Santo Domingo forum that I have read about game. It contains useful information and actionable intelligence.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2328389]Old Kool that is where game comes into play. Just because someone wants something does not mean you have to give it to them. I honestly do not know how many non-pros I am fucking right now that want a committed relationship. Whenever they mention it I shoot the idea down. Then everything continues as normal.
The problem is that most guys are afraid to lose out on pussy so they give in to what a woman asks, thinking if they say no then the woman is gone in the wind. So what. There are millions more where that one came from. And telling a woman no is the best way to find out why she is really with you.
I was seeing a chick in Colombia and we took a trip to the beach at the beginning of February. She was really impressed at how I could take pictures in the water with my Galaxy Note 9. So impressed that she told me to bring her one just like it next time. I told her no. I offered no excuses and no alternatives, just a flat out no. She never spoke to me again. What me worry..[/QUOTE]True that!
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2300470]I simply asked how do you know whose girl looked better for whatever price seeing that neither have posted pictures of any girls?[/QUOTE]And neither had anyone else who made the challenge about prices. Your normal double standard being applied because of personal biases? Dime (tell me). You didn't challenge the person claiming I'm an internet bully. Seriously?
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2300470]Maybe they both emailed you pictures of the girls for you to judge. Whatever the case you left the question unanswered as to how you knew whose girl looked better. Or is it that you are just assuming that someone one person gives 8000 to would look better than someone another person gives 5000?[/QUOTE]Your entire reasoning is one grand logical fallacy. But you are not alone in this. Many make them throughout the forum. I don't make assumptions. Nor do I post about them in this forum. I have opinions and I really don't give a fuck what you think of them. Then there are facts. And no one has every successfully challenged a fact I have posted about Santo Domingo este in this forum. And how could they? Show me the active poster here has spent more time in este than I have.
But to answer your question (even though I don't have to because I don't answer to you or anyone else on the forum) I know because I've seen the pictures of the girls in his network. I've seen the girls in his network and I've been with the girls in his network. Asked and answered counsel. The defense rests!
[QUOTE=GrownMan1;2393278]Man I miss reading this post I don't know how. Ain't no Thang Sub. Glad to see you're back.[/QUOTE]I ask not what ISG can do for me. I ask what I can do for ISG. My only regret as I have but one dick to give to the chicas.
Live long my brother, smoke, and may the pussy be with you. Always!
This is old but, my first trip to the DR. Santo Domingo - 58 days.
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;2315857]Thanks for the props brother. Hit me if you ever you ever get over your allergy. Trust me I understand. Santo Domingo and especially Santo Domingo este is very different in ways both good and bad from the way it was when I first arrived here.
Yes, I did give away secrets. I did it to show the difference in making a positive contribution to the sharing of information on having sex with girls instead of all of the chest beating, dick measuring and girly man chatting in the hen house that goes on in the regular forum. I started my blog to chat about non pros. It is a subject that gets ignored and when a poster does mention it in the regular forums usually there is no detailed information within. Even when I pointed to a place where you can find non pros and it was confirmed by another poster it was met with a personal assault by no less than three different critics that almost never post any useful information but go around patting each other on the back and I'm sure they are on their knees with each other in praise (and other unmentionables) when they get together. I'm not about that. And it was a error and serious misjudgment of character on my part to meet any of them initially. But I digress.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=GrownMan1;2398966]Damn I feel cheap as hell. I give an average of 1500 pesos to 2000 not by the hour but it's an exit fee. Overnight to me is overrated. I don't want anyone to feel like they're obligated they have to stay. Especially when they really want to leave. I will start off with 1500 pesos to 2000 and if I want her to stay all night, or she asks me, will I even think about extra. I do give gifts but the price range from 3 to 8 dollars gifts. Giving a Chica $125-$180 per night to damn much for in my game plan. 3000 pesos is the most I've ever given a Chica for staying overnight.[/QUOTE]That's some real talk Mr. Grownman. Those new to the country better listen up. Those who already do things they way they do can just keep spending all that money you got how you like!
Photos.
I have action shots of myself. I also have photos of myself in recognizable places in Republica Dominicans. Make sure your photos are clear and are a combination that show your face and body.
Written.
I have my profile in Spanish first and then the English version below it. My profile makes it clear I am not looking for a relationship. I'm looking to have fun right now. It does not put girls off here in Republica Dominicans. Girls here value directness. Those not into what your profile is asking for simply will not swipe right.
Settings.
I like to start with a tight range around me distance wise (5 - 10 miles) and an age range of 4 years. I don't read profiles. I swipe right with abandon not even looking through all the photos. If their initial photo does not catch my interest I swipe left. If you are not a paid Tender member the app will let you know you missed a match. I don't give a fuck.
Matches.
Once you get a match my dialogue is nothing fancy. Goes something like this:
Hello (Hola).
Wait for a response.
How are you doing?
Wait for a response (I don't pay any attention here if they use the usted form when they reply. I'm often much older than the girls I go after and the more educated they are the more formal the Spanish they will use with you).
I ask to see them (Quiero concocerte en persona).
They usually respond with a question of where I'm from.
I tell them where I'm from (But I always tell them where I am. Go to google maps and find the subdivision of the city you are in) I don't give them specific information on the hotel that I'm in until we have an appointment. It's important to let them know you are on the ground and ready to play.
Then once you get a positive response about seeing them I tell them to give me their number and we will talk more in WhatsApp.
Now this next part is optional. Depending upon where you are, you may want to un-match with them after you get their number in whatsapp and make contact. Sometime girls that are difficult (for example the ones from my country of origin) will complain about you and get your account shut down. I've had that happen to me once. I'm very careful when I'm in my country of origin.
Once you have their whatsapp number and have made contact with them. You just cut straight to the chase. Pros are going to tell you they are pros in Tinder and you will simply talk business in WhatsApp. Non-pros or semi-pros will be a bit coy about it and ask what are you going to be doing together. Key: don't promise something you are not going to deliver. They get that shit from Dominican guys all the time. Be a man! Say what you want and deliver on what you promise. That is the best way to avoid chica drama in Republica Domincana.
If the chica asks for a gift, ask her what she wants specifically. If she says: "cash", ask her how much? If she gives you a response in USD and you only have DOP ask her how much in DOP. Some girls are spot on exchange rates. Some are not. Unless the initial amount is within my range, I always counter with less, more services or more time.
A note about services: there are a lot of massage girls that are showing up on Tinder. They are going to try to sell you that massage with happy ending. Make sure to ask specifically about the type of happy ending. If you are not interested tell her and ask for what you want. Most of the time you will get it. It's just a matter of price.
Some pros will just come out and say they are pros in their Tinder profile. Others show you by the types of photos. They don't show their faces. They are in hotels or location that they couldn't afford to be on their own.
When it comes to pros: ask about specifics when it comes to service. Time, covered, anal, ect. A girl claiming to be a pro who will not talk to you explicitly about services is to be avoided. I also avoid the answer to the "oral without condom" question of: depends on your hygiene. She knows your hygiene is never going to be good enough for her and by the time you find this out you are in the mix.
I lead by motherfucking example because that's the type of man I am:
Match RDTC1 (Republica Dominicana Tinder Chica 1).
She contacted me first (unusual but a sign she's ready to play).
Her / Me.
Hello / Hello.
How are you?/ Good and you?
Next day.
I am fine also. Thank you (Gracias) I want to know you in person. (Got heart from her on this one).
Good morning. Yes, when?/ Give me you number and we will make plans in whatsapp.
OK.
She gave me her number. / I gave her my number.
We switch to whatsapp.
The thing I noticed about her is that she paid attention to the little things in our conversation and she had real conversation with me. We talked about our lives and what we were doing and when we were going to meet. We did this over 30 days before I found myself in a situation where I just wanted to see her.
I was a little after midnight and I was just chilling a park on Avenida Espana. So I hit up RDTC1 to see what she was doing. She was just chilling at home. I asked her if she wanted to do something. She indicated that she did. Sent her my location and asked if she would come to me. She agreed, if I paid for the taxi. She got ready and just before she was ready to call the taxi. She asked if we were going to have sex. (It should be noted that not once had there ever been a sexual reference nor innuendo in the previous 30 days we had been talking). Said we could but if we did she needed a gift. I asked what she wanted for a gift and she told me money. I asked how much money and she wanted 3500 DOP. I countered with 2500 DOP. She pleaded with me to give her 3000 DOP because she needed to pay for her university. I agreed.
She arrived. I paid for the taxi. She had on one of those Dominican style off the shoulder tops that chicas tend to favor here; blue jeans (with a phat ass stuffed inside of them), flat white sandals and a lovely black hair thingy that really complemented her overall look. She had pink finger nail and toe nails painted white with contrasted nicely with her lovely dark skin. We went to a cabana.
Got inside and settle in. She started dancing on the pole and undressing all sexy and shit. Rubbing up against me and grinding. When her bra came off she had these huge dark nipples. They could poke your eye out if you were not careful. But the real treat was when the jeans dropped revealing the purple thong all up in that ass crack showing off those lovely cheeks. Sir Mix-a-lot's song comes to mind.
Sexually everything was covered, but that's not really important to me. She barely gave me five minutes of head, before climbing on. But for some reason that wasn't important to me either. She rode me in all kinds of different positions (knees, toes, reverse) before I put her on her back and drove it home in missionary. Light kisses on the lips on occasion. She was very cooperative and even though it was late and I was very tired, I managed to cross the finished line easily. She was not quick to get up. Just a quick check of the condom. I went to clean up. She stayed in the bed and got under the covers. Played around with me touching my nipples and rubbing my back and neck before falling off the sleep. I didn't blame her because she needed to get up early to head to class. So, I just let her sleep admiring her lovely body directly and in the mirror. Her skin was like silk and the color was exquisite. And that ass, yeah she had a lot of that. It was a very mellow session for me but it was just what I needed. She came out when it was really late. Put her work in and I had a good time. What more could I ask for? She woke up and was ready to leave. I wanted to take some pictures of her naked from behind but she told me she didn't like that.
When she went to clean up I put her money under her phone. I asked her if she would see me again and she agreed. I also asked if she had a friend for a trio (threesome). She explained that she did but it would just be for me because neither her or her friend was lesbian. She showed me the picture of her friend and she was fine too and a different body type so that's perfect. I had her call a taxi and walked her out to it. She notified me when she got home and thanked me for everything (what a sweetheart).
The next morning I hit her up in whatsapp. We exchanged greetings. She explained that she was already in class and asked how I was doing. Then she apologized for not spending more time with me but she needed to leave to attend an early class. I told her I understood and that we would spend more time together next time. She asked when that would be. I told her it would be after a brief business trip I have to go on.
Finances.
200 DOP Taxi to me.
200 DOP Taxi home.
3000 DOP for her.
650 for the room (a cabana that since I entered after midnight bought me time until 11 AM the next morning).
Epilogue.
Remember those who talk shit about me and ask them where is their actionable intelligence that they have posted with the specifics on how to pull girls in Republica Dominicana.
"You don't know what you are doing. Of course I do. " - Jay-Z.
Got Mr. E following my lead.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2407868]If you are looking to pay someone I would say Tinder is best. I do not think there is a limit to chicks hoeing on that site. And there is no need to tiptoe around. They will bring up money before they come. I had a 24 year old last night that was just what the doctor ordered. She wanted 3500 for all night, but I got her to 3000 (my new record high).[/QUOTE]Same girl in my post. Imitation is the greatest form of flattery.
[QUOTE=Kelso1;2417265]Yes in country getting pussy is as easy as falling off a log.
I wonder why some guys make it so complicated?[/QUOTE]In which country? Because I've looked and I don't see any "falling off a log" reports for Republica Dominicana from you for the last year.
Why even have a forum if pussy is so easy for veterans to get? Oh, new people have questions about how to get pussy in Republica Dominicana. They ask the questions all the time in the main forum.
The founder must have thought sharing information on how to have sex with girls was important. I wonder why some guys are some having such trouble recognizing that? It shows how much reading compression skills are lacking along with basic trip report writing skills amongst a certain group. Getting pussy is easy in Republica Dominicana. But apparently writing a good trip report in order to help others is very difficult and complicated. Try not to hurt yourself the next time you fall off a log. LOL!
I guess for that group of veterans (sex in the DR not the military type) the spirit of giving back is lacking also. They hit the island and knew everything there was to know right from the beginning. Right? They are all self taught Dominican Republic experts who cut their teeth with their boots on the ground and learned everything needed to know without anyone telling them anything about the country. Nah, I doubt that.
[QUOTE=BrotherP;2417344]Good shit bruh! Serve no wine before it's time! By which I mean the bruthas that are ready to explore will appreciate your info! The others will appreciate it eventually! Enjoy! Peace![/QUOTE]Lead by example eh? Ask your leader if he discovered carnival after reading my post "brutha" and by that I mean it inclusively.
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;2140718]Always representing East Side![/QUOTE]Note the picture.
Also, ask him if he also discovered Sosua and Boca Chica back when I was already informing those who appreciated my info about Santo Domingo / Santo Domingo este.
I don't need a leader. Nor do I lead. I show. And allow others to find their own path. I answer questions about things that I know and I direct them to others in the forum who I know have more knowledge in a particular area (even if they have a history of tangling with me). Because unlike the veterans group, I'm here to help and give back. Because I appreciated the help others gave me and that was provided when the main forum contained trip reports with information on how to have sex with girls.
Whole lotta speculation going on. That's some serious girly man shit. Real men in the arena talk directly to each other. But to each their own.
I remember just last year someone posted they knew of a place where you could get pussy for 1000 DOP. When I PM'ed about it I was told to "fuck off". Now I don't expect anyone to give up their personal contacts. But, I think about things a little differently. If it is a business that caters to the public then why are you withholding the information like it's some secret? And if it only serves a private clientele then why are you bragging about it on ISG? Guys be like: I'm not going to tell you about 1000 DOP pussy, but here is the restaurant where I get lunch for 100 DOP. WTF?
OK, so I rummaged around and found a 1200/ hour pussy deal. PM me about my 1200/ hour pussy experience and I'll give you the number. That's a big difference in the way that a lot of guys do things up in here. Man in the arena difference. When someone posts a trip report and they get attacked for giving out information and doing things in a way that others don't like it does not promote the exchange of information. That's why I like Grownman's blog. It stays on point and he truly welcomes all posts.
A lot of claims being made on how to get pussy (for less money, that's better looking, online) than what I have suggested. But they don't back it up with any hard information like I do. So they remain that, claims. It's so easy to get pussy in Republica Dominicana but no one is willing to share how they are doing it. Isn't that interesting?
When it comes to pussy, I don't care if you are an expat or off-islander. I'm not going to tell you how to spend your money, who to fuck with your dick, or how you should go about finding who you want to fuck with your dick here in Republica Dominicana (unless you ask).
There is pussy and then there are girls with pussy. Sometimes I have a relationship with the girl with the pussy. And man I still miss one. She was worth every peso. If she asked to rummage through my bank account I would have let her. That is how sprung on the cat I was. But she never did. I was leaving for a month and gave her my money clip that had 10,000 pesos in it and told her to take what she needed for the month (this was back when the exchange rate was 33 DOP to 1 USD). She took 4000 pesos. That's right. For the month. Check out this out this response to the very first post I ever made in ISG:
[QUOTE=GrownMan1;1815498]Nice post for the first time here. A thirty year old with a perfect face (10) and over perfect sex (12). (redacted for brevity) Wow. You truly are Santa Claus. Your money is your money like you I wouldn't care what anyone says.[/QUOTE]I've been considered a pussy spend thrift since I started posting here. And I've always had tremendous respect for Grownman saying that right from the jump. Some think I have learned and moderated my spending habits like Grownman (learned a lot from him). Others still have a problem with how I spend my money cause I have more of it than they do. If you can afford to spend 300 USD a day on pussy you probably have more of it than they do too. I also don't have a problem buying two new tennis racquets for 200 USD each if I think it will help me serve better (the weakest part of my game). I like me tennis just tiny bit less than I like pussy. I would never cancel a tennis match in order to get some pussy. But I would cancel a pussy meeting to go play tennis. That's how much I like my tennis!
Someone asked about escorts. Now, I'm seeing a post from someone who said they were not even going to respond. Is that not some weird shit? Who among us are too good to help new people now? Some individuals confuse a question of the style of how you do things with the information a person asked for and the desire to do things the way they want to do it. When you ask a question do you want to know what someone else wouldn't do? Or do you want an answer to your question? There are people who don't rent cars here in Republica Dominicana. Does that mean they can't drive? Do you give a fuck if they don't rent cars if your question is about car rentals? Do you have to jump bad on someone and basically tell them that they are dumb as fuck for doing this every time you read about something that you don't do? How about a simple message about what you actually do? There is a post in the Sosua section that contains information about renting a car. It is not critical of anyone. It simply explains the disadvantages of car rental as the poster sees it and leaves it at that. Real man in the arena post!
My handle is SubCmdr and I approved this message. LOL!
Neither is being a man in the arena.
I've got a poster telling everyone I'm fucked up because I have a vehicle and have not been to San Pedro de Marcoris and yet he does not even have one. He's hoofing it and taking uber. If he cannot even afford a vehicle, how can he tell me where I should be going in mine?
I've got a poster telling everyone I'm fucked up because I actually posted information I had not seen posted before about having sex with girls in the Dominican Republic. And I posted a restaurant review he did not agree with. And I don't know the city as well as he does.
I've got a poster telling everyone because I posted information on an escort agency in Punta Cana that I'm promoting human trafficking. Is he mother fucking Interpol?
All the while there was not one single post from any of them sharing information pertaining to the actual purpose of the forum. And you wonder why I keep repeating that critics don't count?
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;2419878]Neither is being a man in the arena.
I've got a poster telling everyone I'm fucked up because I have a vehicle and have not been to San Pedro de Marcoris and yet he does not even have one. He's hoofing it and taking uber. If he cannot even afford a vehicle, how can he tell me where I should be going in mine?
I've got a poster telling everyone I'm fucked up because I actually posted information I had not seen posted before about having sex with girls in the Dominican Republic. And I posted a restaurant review he did not agree with. And I don't know the city as well as he does.
I've got a poster telling everyone because I posted information on an escort agency in Punta Cana that I'm promoting human trafficking. Is he mother fucking Interpol?
All the while there was not one single post from any of them sharing information pertaining to the actual purpose of the forum. And you wonder why I keep repeating that critics don't count?[/QUOTE]Felicidades. Conociste herrera porque por fin encontraste las sensuales en skokka. Cual es lo mejor steakhouse en Herrera? Ja ja ja ja.
[QUOTE=Prtyr2;2420087]Felicidades. Conociste herrera porque por fin encontraste las sensuales en skokka. Cual es lo mejor steakhouse en Herrera? Ja ja ja ja.[/QUOTE]Gracias hermano. Me alego tenia un oportunidad a aprender algo nuevo. Antes fui in herrera porque mi amigo le gusta un lugar por pico pollo alla. Porque estas escribiendo a mi in espanol? Este es un lugar por ingles. Si o no? Hermano, donde is tu informacion sobre tieniendo sexo con chicas?
[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;2425395]It is kinda ludicrous to speak of numbers on a 1-10 scale as my 10 could be a 5 for others. [/QUOTE]On this I agree. But it does not stop numerous posters from throwing numbers around to judge attractiveness. I see it in posts in many threads in the Dominican Republic forum.
[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;2425395]The only number that is universally agreed upon in this context, is the age.[/QUOTE]Why pay an older lady to fuck? If it's your thing I understand. If you like it I love it. But when it comes to non pros as long as they are at least 20 years younger than me that's good.
Always appreciate the feedback! IDK about throwing at some ratings. First thing is. That looks like they may have started charging a cover. It was 200 pesos at least for the guys to get in. Not sure about the girls. But I think that may start at 10 pm and don't know if it will be every night. Someone else said there are all shapes and sizes and something for everyone. That is pretty much true. The reality for me so far is that the two girls I have probably enjoyed the most were found there. Grownman1 posted a range of 2-8. Very few 9's. Yeah, 2-8 ish sounds about right. On the nights I've been there I have not seen more than 1 girl that I would call a stunner. I'm splitting hairs here. 8.0-8.5 very pretty. 9 stunning. But as someone else said. Probably my 9 is there 8.0 and my 8.0 is there 9.
Let's say there are 80 girls there. Maybe 10-15% are in the upper range that most any guy would want.
And some of the better looking ones aren't good performers or consistent enough. I pulled a Hati_n girl off the street some time back. She was my 9. She wasn't consistent so I stopped seeing her. Which sucked because she had that "it" factor for me. But I won't be disappointed by performance more than once.
[QUOTE=Newb20;2426336]Always appreciate the feedback![/QUOTE]Always good to hear from new people reporting. And you have been posting up some great information on having sex with girls in the Dominican Republic.
[QUOTE=Newb20;2426336]Someone else said there are all shapes and sizes and something for everyone. That is pretty much true. The reality for me so far is that the two girls I have probably enjoyed the most were found there. Grownman1 posted a range of 2-8. Very few 9's. Yeah, 2-8 ish sounds about right. On the nights I've been there I have not seen more than 1 girl that I would call a stunner. I'm splitting hairs here. 8.0-8.5 very pretty. 9 stunning. But as someone else said. Probably my 9 is there 8.0 and my 8.0 is there 9. Let's say there are 80 girls there. Maybe 10-15% are in the upper range that most any guy would want.[/QUOTE]Thank you my man. Those who oppose numerical ratings simply don't have to use them. Here we focus on information about having sex with girls in the Dominican Republic. And all opinions are welcome. But those who are rolling with the CCC (Clown Car Crew) who post their CCC (Constantly Critical Commentary) up in here, yeah that shit gets deleted! And I make no apologies for that.
Because I didn't like it. And the last time I checked with myself. That is only reason I needed.
I was shown Sosua in person by that guy that likes to ride the bus there. I was not impressed with it as a place to live. Now, the availability of the girls, it was nice but no more than I already had available to me when I was living in Santo Domingo / Santo Domingo este. Prices for prostitutes were no more favorable to me than I could find in Santo Domingo / Santo Domingo este. And the services I received were no better than I could find in Santo Domingo / Santo Domingo este.
Yes, I walked everywhere. Except when I needed to take a moto to the bank. And if I was up in there in years I might find a full walking community to my liking. But that is a lifestyle choice and I don't understand how people get on this board and claim they are "lovers" while being critical of the lifestyle choices of others. Showed Sosua and I was not impressed. I returned to my lifestyle that I enjoyed and still do in Santo Domingo / Santo Domingo este. Is there amazement that I and others can think for themselves and have their own personal preferences?
Who thinks I need another tour of Sosua? If anyone does can they tell me what did I miss in my first visit? You see I got up this morning and cut up a pina (pineapple) that I bought from Pricemart. There is one of those in Sosua right? It cost me 50 DOP. I shop at Bravo. There is one of those in Sosua right? I buy my alcohol at Ron Depot. Best prices I have found on the stuff I'm looking for in the city. There is one of those in Sosua right?
Yes, traffic in Santo Domingo / Este is bad. Funny how I was able to get around for 7 months living there without a vehicle and before Uber was hot in the cities. Walked, took taxis, guguas and caro publicos when posters in Santo Domingo were afraid do to that for their safety. A lot has changed since then. But eventually, I made a lifestyle choice after exploring life without a vehicle. I bought one! Obsessed with my vehicle, nah brothers. I am obsessed with people dying during an election. And I could give a fuck about lifestyles of the old and decrepit living in puta pueblos.
Why am I'm talking about my vehicle you asked? Because someone who used to ride in my vehicle, but who is now hailing uber and riding the bus started talking shit about vehicle ownership. And others in the CCC (Clown Car Creew) decided to jump in. The point is individuals should not be talking about my decision to own a car here simply because they cannot afford to or even if they chose not to. Don't want to own a car? That's your business. But if you are talking shit about mine then you our out of line.
Some people ask a lot of questions in their posts but never answer them. I would think others would not give a fuck about my lifestyle choices the way I don't give a fuck about the lifestyle choices of others. Just like I don't care if any particular individual has a car or not or what country they have a car in or do not have a car in. What I do care about is the information they share about having sex with girls. LOL!
How in the world can someone be critical of posts about someone being off topic when they are writing about lifestyle issues in threads that have nothing to do with that. Actions such as these makes the entire point of why Men in Arena know that the critics don't count. Do as I say not as I do. Do they think they are talking to their grandchildren up in here?
Difference between me and many other posters that are constantly critical of others is that I don't hate on the lifestyle choices of others. Don't come onto the forum talking about the culinary choices of others. Don't call others out when they post actual information on the purpose of the ISG (which is to share information on having sex with girls). I actual post that type of information. Point out where I have posted up factually incorrect information.
"Everyone is entitled to their own opinions, but not their own facts."- Daniel Patrick Moynihan.
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;1883665]Shout out to Mr. Tomjackin for single handedly reminding everyone what the Sosua Reports thread is about. Take me off your list my man. LOL! And to Mr. GoGo who made the following report possible.
Mr. GoGo catches me off guard this morning. Been living in the Santo Doming too long. He is ten minutes early and that never happens here and this has thrown me totally off my game. Security notifies me of his arrival and Mr. GoGo heads on up to my luxury apartment with the ocean view. I take him on a quick tour of my place and then he heads out onto the balcony. After having the chance to check out what I've told him about in person he declares that is it good. And it is![/QUOTE]I post this as a historical reference. I hope it gives insight to the new posters into some of the exchanges they have been reading in other threads. But my real point is I've actually been to Sosua. I've seen it for myself. And at that time I decided it was a great place to fuck, but I wouldn't want to live there.
But now I read that it has completely changed. Since I'm not an anti social person I meet posters that contact me and request a meeting. But if you choose not to do that, it remains your lifestyle choice. If you want to live that way and like it, then I love it!. I have received reports directly from personal contacts that have been in Sosua this month that it is still rocking in the same way it was when I visited when it comes to availability of the girls. They gave me the low down on operating in the Nu Sue. I trust my personal contacts.
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;2439201] He's kicking real knowledge in your ear hole![/QUOTE]Very much beg to differ The concern for another human being (even if it is for a puta many hours of flight away) is what makes us human; also called altruism. Not all human beings have it though, concerned as they are only about themselves and their bubble. We have a magnificent example on TV every briefing day in our country.
You all know this I just like writing it!. LOL!
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;2439201]He's kicking real knowledge in your ear hole![/QUOTE][QUOTE=Darelax;2439399]1000% agree with you SubCmdr! Well said![/QUOTE]Thank you Darelax! I appreciate it.
[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;2439261]Very much beg to differ The concern for another human being (even if it is for a puta many hours of flight away) is what makes us human; also called altruism. Not all human beings have it though, concerned as they are only about themselves and their bubble. We have a magnificent example on TV every briefing day in our country.[/QUOTE]So you are reading my reports now Tempoecorto?
[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;1882116]I have not read Subcmdr's "Boca Chica" notes but going through his usual retorts to prove his Manhood (and without fail, on an abrasive note), I noted "endeavor" and "skeptic".[/QUOTE]I'm completely comfortable with you disagreeing with me. Not the first time you have not liked what I have written. But at least this time you did nor go with the ad hominem fallacy as you have several time before while disagreeing with me.
Examining your latest posts it is my opinion that you simply cannot have it both ways. Are you are in the Statistical King of Sosua's corner with his mathematical arguments that novel coronavirus and COVID-19 are no big deal or do you actually have concern for your putas? Which is it?
[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;2439508]Hype is what makes the world go around and gives the eyeballs to the media business and similar.
By the way, your math skills were formidable, speaking of the risk evaluation. So I agree but a bit of stoicism works for me.[/QUOTE]If all this is hype and no big deal, what is the need for altruism (the principle and moral practice of concern for happiness of other human beings or animals)? Well, I'll answer that for you brother. This is not a need for it. It's pretty easy to be altruistic in your thoughts. On valentine's day do you tell your loved one "Hey I though about buying you gift. You know it's the thought that counts so I did not bother to get you one". How does that play out in real life? Now for the abrasiveness you dislike. Thoughts are bullshit when it comes to altruism. It's the practice that counts!
A few questions:
1. Do you practice altruism during your normal mongering visits or only during pandemics?
2. Have you been into any barrios to give money to the needy or sent money via western union (since the state of emergency was declared) or are you simply another off islander trying to keyboard jockey about points you are unwilling to back up with meaningful action?
3. You mentioned something about TV briefing in "our" country. Where is that? Where were you when you sent last three posts about Republic Dominicana (general geographic location)?
4. Do you have any more grammatical or spelling advice to give me?
Everybody is allowed to dowhatchalike (within the law) or believe what they like. I don't agree with the people that say it's no big deal. I have been reading your responses and posts about the novel coronavirus and COVID-19. They seem to put you in the "COVID-19 is not big deal" category so we are going to have to agree to disagree.
The pure statistical analysis you commented on in the General Information section is fucked up in my opinion. I'll tear it apart in a later post without putting egg on anyone's face nor will I be proving my manhood.
It should be noted for those unaware that every time I get my dick up and insert into an orifice of a chica, I satisfy my manhood. I have no need or desire to do it here. Here I seek to move beyond the base desires of my dick and balls and engage in the intellectual sharing of information on fucking girls in Republica Dominicana. That's what men in the arena do.
I'll keep posting until COVID-19 gets me!
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;2439693]You all know this I just like writing it!. LOL!
I'll keep posting until COVID-19 gets me![/QUOTE]I will keep it brief:
1. I am quarantined at home, so yes, I think the matter is serious. I also believe that a dose of stoicism is good for I, me and myself. Finally, what little I remember of Statistics and regression analysis from College, tells me that over the long haul, the kill rate is likely to flatten out. I also hope I have a bit of fatalism in me, should something bad happen to me.
2. Whether I only lecture about altruism or practice it, is something personal. I know for a fact though that giving feels better than receiving.
Socrates stated "The only thing I know is that I know nothing" and how true is that? So, my expressed thoughts are only for me and nobody else.
By the way, I bear you no ill-will. It is just shooting the breeze!
[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;2439902]I will keep it brief:[/QUOTE]Not me brother. I am getting paid by the word here in Republica Dominicana. So I'm verbose.
[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;2439902]1. I am quarantined at home, so yes, I think the matter is serious. I also believe that a dose of stoicism is good for I, me and myself. Finally, what little I remember of Statistics and regression analysis from College, tells me that over the long haul, the kill rate is likely to flatten out. I also hope I have a bit of fatalism in me, should something bad happen to me.[/QUOTE]That's right my man. Statistics are for the group. We do not know if we are going to be one in any given year.
"Hard times (COVID-19) spreading just like the flu. Watch out homeboy, don't let it catch you (good advice). P-p-prices go up, don't let your pocket go down (Job or no job this is good advice too). When you got short money you're stuck on the ground (or banned from international travel as we all are) . Turn around, get ready, keep your eye on the prize. (Things will get better) And be on point for the future shock. Hard times (COVID-19)" - RUN-DMC (Subcmdr edit). On the Hard Times album release (2009).
I actually find all the lyrics of the title track to be appropriate for the current situation we find ourselves in. You would think it is a great equalizer. But it is not. It has only shown the true differences between the rich and the poor.
[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;2439902]2. Whether I only lecture about altruism or practice it, is something personal. I know for a fact though that giving feels better than receiving.[/QUOTE]This comment had me on the floor laughing so mother fucking hard. I am in agreement on that one. When I'm banging away telling some chica to "take it"! It feels good. Trust me on that one. LOL!
[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;2439902]Socrates stated "The only thing I know is that I know nothing" and how true is that? So, my expressed thoughts are only for me and nobody else.[/QUOTE]Seriously T? Thoughts expressed that are only for me I do not post on a mother fucking site on the internet focused on getting pussy. But that's me. But I do agree with Socrates. And many on here believe the same. But now that I have your disclaimer I'll read your posts with better understanding. As I hope you will with mine in the future (if you read them at all). But I feel it is very easy for people (not you) to advocate. Much more difficult to execute. Not saying you do or do not because like if you post pictures here or not, it is personal decision. I'm certain your heart, mind and dick are always in the right place for you and your favorite chicas. LOL!
[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;2439902]By the way, I bear you no ill-will. It is just shooting the breeze![/QUOTE]Of course not my fellow man in the arena. I am glad you are able to look back at your comments and have a laugh. I know I can. I am certain by now after all these years all who read my posts should understand that a certain amount of sarcasm will always be within them.
No one needs to take anything that I write personally. Those who do can put me on ignore. I do not wish anyone any ill-will (even though there are few posters here that really deserve it). Some posters rarely post anything useful. Some posters use the forum as their personal chat room. Posters can do what they like. I am not a moderator.
But I'm looking for new information that is accurate and useful relating to fucking girls in Republica Dominicana. Not really interested in any particular posters personal opinions on the writing style of my posts. If I post up something that is not accurate then I should be corrected (but that never happens). Why? I keep my game tight and my information accurate. I don't post about other countries in (especially asian ones) in Republica Dominicana. I post about what I know in the Dominican Republic.
The critical out there challenge my style but like MC Hammer says "Can't touch this" when it comes to the quality of my content. That is why critics do not matter. Not that it is not possible to be critical of me in a constructive way. Grownman suggested that I should not overpay (standard vendor prices) or let myself be taken advantage of or the sake of expediency of getting the pussy. It was good advice! And I have followed it ever sense.
"Hard times can take you on a natural trip. So keep your balance, and don't you slip. Hard times is nothing new on me. I'm going to use my strong mentality. Like the cream of the crop, like the crop of the cream. Be-be-beating hard times, that is my theme. Hard times in life, hard times in death. I'm going to keep on fighting to my very last breath" Hard times" - RUN-DMC.
Note the last line. I will keep posting (from the Republica Dominicana) until COVID-19 gets me!
Let us start with this most basic concept. Know your prices in pesos. Calculate your true costs in the currency of your economy. Someone that does not understand that should not step foot on the island until he does. I pay in pesos. And I even posted a chart for ease of calculations for the most common fuck rates.
How much is "top dollar" for a current off islander who is trying to save 500 DOP because he is waiting for his next retirement check? Where are these casas that I pay "top dollar". What is "Top dollar" for me? I do not have a top dollar. Because as I state above I pay in pesos.
We know one thing, I can afford two cars located in two different countries. He cannot. We know he prefers to party in colmados. But that is not the purpose of a colmado. Colmados serve a vital need in local commerce and other varied needs of their community. They often are extending credit during times like this to keep people watered and fed. But a person who is egoista at the core is not going to know that. It is just a spot to party. We know he likes old girls. I do not. I prefer them younger. Always have. So any claim to be fucking the girls I pay to fuck for free because he parties with them in the colmado is lacking in veracity! Because I am not even entertaining girls in the 30+ range.
We know he spends a lot of time talking out the side of his mouth being critical of me and very little time posting anything significant and sharing information on having sex with girls in Republica Dominicana. We know he likes to use the forum as his personal chat room when PM would do. But that would not allow him to name drop and list countries from around the world (none of which he has been to during the COVID-19 crisis). We know he is not on the island right now but will not admit it. That his real fear. That he will be found out. I do not suggest religious counseling but seeing a mental health professional may help him.
Some just need to build their egos. We know he does not understand that getting pussy is not a contest. After all these years he has failed to understand that no matter what he says and does it will never affect my ability to desire to get the type of pussy I choose to each and every day I choose to in Republica Dominicana. And in fact it will never affect how anyone gets any pussy in Republica Dominicana. The real shame is his claim on knowledge. His failure to share and his laser focus on being a critic will never actually help anybody reading any of his work here get any either.
I write this from my residence in Republica Dominicana. Where is that? He does not know. When was the last time he saw me in person? He will not say. How does he know anything about me? Well that is a question the readers should ask themselves.
Do I dream? I sure do. I dream of the time when I can fire up the Gran Jefe Mobile and roll down the roll to see my playmates. I dream of the time when my playmates can catch the bus and roll to see me. I dream of not being under house arrest after 5 PM. I dream of being able to purchase the goods and services I desire like I could before the SOE kicked in. I do not dream of returning to my country of origin. So, I am not being insensitive, but I really do not give a fuck about off islanders that cannot get back. None of you will give a fuck if I get COVID-19 and die. And that is the reality of the situation.
There are people that want to say what they want, but they want more than that. They want all the attention, they want to tell you how you should do things, they even are bold enough to tell you what you want to read here in this forum. To each their own. I will keep posting up useful information. And he can keep being irrelevant by being a critic.
Because I do not need fuck stories or how The King of Sosua got his grove back or how someone rode a girl until he "broke" her. Really? I need information that I do not know about where the girls are at, how you got them and how much you paid (in money or time). Why? Because we all know how to fuck. It is just that some people have not figured out that information is more valuable than their personal stories. You cannot be like me. And why would you want to. Because you are you. I will keep being me!
This is the SubCmdr blog! And this message is a public service announcement.
A friend of mine in the US sent me a picture of a line up for the liquor store. Everybody with masks and gloves on and proper social distance spaces marked out on the pavement. Good social order.
I was I like I hate you right now. In Republica Dominicana we are under a hard quarantine after 5 PM. You know what that means. That means you are under house arrest. After five 5 PM if you are not in your house or somebody else's you go to jail if the police see you. Social distancing, impossible from what I am experiencing actually living here in Republica Dominicana. But I have not gotten sick. Yet. I wear my PPE and monitor my vital signs with medical equipment I brought with me from my country of origin way before any of this fired up.
Man I would be happy to put on some gloves, don my mask and grab my goggles if I could go to the liquor store right now. You cannot even do that during the day. And I refuse to pay colmado prices despite how much others enjoy partying there.
Now whenever I go out I don my mask. Not for me because the regular cloth ones do not protect me they are for others. But I got one of the heavy duty ones. It was gifted to me by someone who cares (a chica). I put my gloves on because that is what protects the touch as long as you make sure you are not touching your face. I am current shopping for a pair of goggles after reading an article I am sure the OP googled. Yeah, I read that other guy's user blog. I do not care what he has to say about me. But others posting up in there throw out good information and it does not matter where I get my good information from. I get my temperature checks and test my blood oxygen levels.
I am pleased to report that I too am under an international travel ban just like big titty lover. There is pussy all over the world and he is having an issue cause he cannot get to Republica Dominicana. Goto Mexico! I hear they are still open. They have hot chicas also that speak Spanish. I have been there and I like it. You can take a domestic flight to a border city in USA and walk across. They use pesos too (MXN).
But maybe it is that desire to do what the fuck they want public health be damned is the reason why the USA they got 85 K+ deaths. I do not know I am not there. I am in Republica Dominicana. But I do know things are opening back up over there. I am getting reports from friends in Maryland, Georgia, Texas, and California about what is happening near them. I believe in free association. But when your liberty endangers my health, all bets are off.
I have no fear. I am in Republica Dominicana. Right now! I have made it my business for everyone to know this is where I am riding out COVID-19. I am not hiding!
I will meet with anyone who wants to meet me if they are within a reasonable distance of me. Right now the cost of diesel fuel is amazingly low. Last time I fueled up it was 113.4/ gal (DOP). I can fire up the Gran Jefe Mobile and afford to burn off a few gallons if you want to hang out. If you need to save 500 DOP cause you are waiting for your next retirement check, walk if you like. Not me. I roll! And that other guy knows it cause he used to roll with me. LOL!
I have fucked a lot during my lifetime. In many different countries all over the world before I even knew ISG existed. By the time I found out about ISG I was ready to LIVE in a different country. So, judge me by the information I provide about Republica Dominicana. Not by what somebody else wants to tell you, that you should be doing. My apologies for that last statement. I know many of you already do that. You are independent thinkers like me. Who do not need to move in a pack in order to have witnesses to shout out to you about how great you are and what activities you did.
We do not all want to be on youtube and instagram with our dicks out looking like old men who have retired and trying to get their party on before they bury their bucket list along with them. Nah, some of us just want to pass on what we learn during our quiet life of living on the island. And bury our bone in some fine pussy in the process. But to each their own!
I have said COVID-19 is the real deal from Day 1. It is changing how governments operate. It is changing how institutions have done things for years. How funny was it when I said I will keep posting until COVID-19 gets me? Gallows humor fo sho! Stay safe gentlemen. Live to fuck another day! I have a different goal. I live to talk shit to my critics another day! It is my job. And they pay me by the word to do it. LOL!
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2451285]Was she a professional or a prostitute? If this was a hooker then of course you were a customer. I would never think I am special to ANY girl that I give money to. For me it is divided into hookers and non-prostitutes. When you see me write non-pro in a report it means a chick that I give absolutely no money and shit to unless it is her birthday and I am in town at the moment.[/QUOTE]Best definition I have seen written!
I know you are not scared so you do not have to go to church. Neither am I. But preach anyway brother! You got a witness.
A curious thing I find from all the experts and vets posting up in here. They never mention the importance of dance in the non pro culture of Republica Dominicana. Where others are obsessing over "that shit girls wear on their heads" the real useful culture information of Republica Dominicana seems is over looked.
"Bachata*is a genre of Latin American*music*that originated in the Dominican Republic in the first half of the 20th century with primarily African rhythms and also remnants of Indigenous and European musical elements, representative of the cultural diversity of the Dominican Republic population. "yeah a googled that shit you off island mother fuckers).
When I have been in a colmado on a date or made a cold approach, I have never failed to impress on the dance floor when this gringo negro can actually get out there and be stepping with style and not on her feet. So, get on youtube. Learn a few steps. When you are actually in a colmado and you want to chat up a hot young chica that you fancy use "teach me to dance" as an ice breaker and amaze them at how fast you pick it up. I had a girl tell me dancing is just horizontal sex with your clothes on. That may give you a small idea of the importance of dance in the non pro scene.
I will will continue to be a man in the arena because it is not the critics that matter. I will keep posting until COVID-19 gets me.
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;2455227]When I have been in a colmado on a date or made a cold approach, I have never failed to impress on the dance floor when this gringo negro can actually get out there and be stepping with style and not on her feet. So, get on youtube. Learn a few steps. When you are actually in a colmado and you want to chat up a hot young chica that you fancy use "teach me to dance" as an ice breaker and amaze them at how fast you pick it up. I had a girl tell me dancing is just horizontal sex with your clothes on. That may give you a small idea of the importance of dance in the non pro scene.[/QUOTE]Yeah I have to agree and that's why women love good dancers the world over. At 60 I do pretty good getting pussy pretty much anywhere (except in the US where I don't try anymore since I'm invisible at this age, and they just ain't worth the work) because I like to dance. I did well in Sosua my one time going there by dancing bachata -throwing your leg back behind you- with NP.
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;2455227]A curious thing I find from all the experts and vets posting up in here. They never mention the importance of dance in the non pro culture of Republica Dominicana. Where others are obsessing over "that shit girls wear on their heads" the real useful culture information of Republica Dominicana seems is over looked.
"Bachata*is a genre of Latin American*music*that originated in the Dominican Republic in the first half of the 20th century with primarily African rhythms and also remnants of Indigenous and European musical elements, representative of the cultural diversity of the Dominican Republic population. "yeah a googled that shit you off island mother fuckers).[/QUOTE]Looked this up today. Holy shit. This is going to really help. Took like 10 min to get down the basics, now just need to practice a bit. Thanks, Sub!
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhHGdBBF7Xk[/URL]
Remember,
The costs you are going to get quoted The Sue are going to be higher than the ones I have put in the UTR section. Also realize that inflation has hit hard here. I live on the South Coast.
Hair cut at new place within walking distance of my apartment is: 300 DOP. In Sosua I was quoted 350 - 400.
I have suggestions for your preferences. Although on Dr. Rosan in The Sue there are many massage places where you can get your mani-pedi, massage your dick sucked or full sex. Massage with dick suck 2500 - 3000. Massage with full sex 3500 - 4000. Get them to come to your room after your shift if you want better prices.
The girls roaming The Sue are available from 1500 - 5000 pesos. You just stop who you are interested in talking to. If a girl is not selling they will tell you that. There are bars and restaurants where they are available. And of course during the day they are on the stroll on the beach. The streets at night. Pro Tip. Ahnvee late at night and The Playa Chiquita Casino (near Ahnvee) after midnight for girls at an entirely different appearance level (with the prices to go with them).
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7Fo3H8rvrQ[/URL]
Check out [B]Grownman's Boom Boom Room[/B] for my latest intel. Enjoy your visit.
For more new guy advice:
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;2701207][I]Thanks for your excellent advice. I've been reading your posts and I'm incredulous that these haters would bust on you. You are literally casting pearls before swine.[/I][/QUOTE]
I am a tennis player. Coco Gauff is a tennis player. That is where the similarities end. Ms. Gauff is a professional. I am a amateur.
If you take the dictionary definition of a prostitute you can pretty much place any girl in that category. And that makes all men users of prostitutes. But in the end it is a matter of degree. And the definition that anyone else has may not work for me. Furthermore I don't even care how someone else defines their sex partners. LOL!
The same way as in sports a girl can be a prostitute on a professional or amateur level.
I think what the women think they are. You have the girls hooking every day they know they are pros. Then you have the weekend hustler. In there mind they are semi pros. Then there the there the baby needs new shoes. Will give it up so I can buy these shoes. In her mind she is a hero putting out for her kids. In my mind as well.
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;2725900]I am a tennis player. Coco Gauff is a tennis player. That is where the similarities end. Ms. Gauff is a professional. I am a amateur.
If you take the dictionary definition of a prostitute you can pretty much place any girl in that category. And that makes all men users of prostitutes. But in the end it is a matter of degree. And the definition that anyone else has may not work for me. Furthermore I don't even care how someone else defines their sex partners. LOL!
The same way as in sports a girl can be a prostitute on a professional or amateur level.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;2725900]But in the end it is a matter of degree.
The same way as in sports a girl can be a prostitute on a professional or amateur level.[/QUOTE]As I have said before, I see it as pro meaning prostitute and non-pro meaning non-prostitute. Because in my mind don't matter what title she has; I am either required to pay or I am not. But it appears most other guys see it as meaning professional and non-professional, or in some cases semi-professional.
You said it yourself. It is a matter of degree. But guys are trying to justify it as a matter of frequency instead. You don't get a "degree" just because you show up to class everyday. You get a degree for showing proficiency. Being a professional is not explained by how often a person does something, but how well a person does something.
There are cats that are down at the basketball court everyday, twice a day. That does not make them professional basketball players. I have a double bass at home and if I strum on the mf everyday that does not make me a professional bass player. But folks want to say someone is a professional pussy seller using only the basis that she sells pussy everyday. Nah son.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2727000] It is a matter of degree. But guys are trying to justify it as a matter of frequency instead. You don't get a "degree" just because you show up to class everyday. You get a degree for showing proficiency. Being a professional is not explained by how often a person does something, but how well a person does something.
There are cats that are down at the basketball court everyday, twice a day. That does not make them professional basketball players. I have a double bass at home and if I strum on the mf everyday that does not make me a professional bass player. But folks want to say someone is a professional pussy seller using only the basis that she sells pussy everyday. Nah son.[/QUOTE]I see your point Mr E. I just want to quiver a little with you. We are not talking about people who pursue education To become more marketable. In this case of course the more educated a person is the more they're proficient in their profession. We're talking about the P4 P game. The same rule does not apply.
In this game it's not the proficiency of a chicas sexual activity I'm interested in, but the frequency. Based on what you saying anyone can be a professional as long as they excel in their proficiency.
Many of us who are more concerned with GFE tend to prefer chicas with lower volume.
I understand to some guys it doesn't matter and that's cool. In a place like Sosua it shouldn't matter if all you doing is sports fucking.
What makes you a vet is not how well you handled yourself in Sosua. It comes from the duration of times you've came to the area. Duration correlates with making better decisions however it's not always the case. Many times we see newbies handling themselves better than some of us vets.
I myself pay per performance however a Chicas duration and sexual activity plays the biggest part of her getting an interview or repeat.
So far in this game I have learned I am more likely to get GFE from a chica that does not sell her body 24 hours a day for a living.
[QUOTE=GrownMan1;2727829]So far in this game I have learned I am more likely to get GFE from a chica that does not sell her body 24 hours a day for a living.[/QUOTE]Exactly. So there needs to be different terminology to describe the chicks. In your case the amateur is the real pro. And in many cases the chicks that guys are calling pros really suck, and not in a good way.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2727913]Exactly. So there needs to be different terminology to describe the chicks. In your case the amateur is the real pro. And in many cases the chicks that guys are calling pros really suck, and not in a good way.[/QUOTE]Yours is a valid point: the word "pro" is certainly a misnomer. In a regular world, we use the word "professional" to describe people who know how to perform a job well, skillfully and do so. In the ISG universe, the word "pro" refers not at all to the such skills but rather to the frequency and as Grown Man rightly commented, the quality of the job performed is inversely proportional to the frequency of doing the job. No wonder then, that we all avoid "pros" here. But now that the definition is clear, and we are all on the same page, let's not quibble over usage of the word "pro."
I have [B]never[/B] had a bad experience in a casa in the Dominican Republic that I have visited. In fact, contrary to what others report, my experiences have been outstanding. Even as a new tourist fresh off the plane I had no problems with hiring girls for social / sexual experiences in Santo Domingo / Santo Domingo este. I did have problem with a girl that took the bus to see me in Santo Domingo my first trip. She was on her period. But she sucked a good dick. Now my casa experiences are dated in Santo Domingo. I have not been to one since the pandemic hit and they shut them all down. But still you could meet a girl at one privately if you made an appointment. I know this because I lived in the Dominican Republic throughout the pandemics and lock downs. All the casas are all up and operating again. I personally would not recommend Foxys or Oasis. For me there are so many better options better options right here in [U]Santo Domingo este[/U] and I don't have to be bothered to cross the bridge.
There is a reason I use "Santo Domingo / Santo Domingo este." If you know your geography. Then you know they are two separate independent municipalities that are separated by the river Ozama. Although barrio means "neighborhood" if you are familiar with Dominican Culture then you know how the word is used by Dominicans. You will never hear a "blue blood" Dominican referring to sectors of Naco, Arroyo Hondo and Piantini as a barrio. If they live in one of those sectors you will hear them using the name of the sector. Now if they are joking among themselves you might hear them say "mi barrio" making the claim and representing. But since I don't hang consistently with those sorts of people I can only guess at that.
As far as finding girls in Santo Domingo / Santo Domingo este while being new to both cities, I think that Spanish speaking abilities will make a big difference. But now there is so much action online. And you can use google translate online and in person. Today that is my preferred way to find new girls of all types. Pros, semi-pros, non pros. When it comes to sex for money gentlemen, do not make it complicated. Ask for what you want and then set a price or negotiate.
I still like making a cold approach now and then when there is a hot one right in my face. But I have moved so far past the normal activities of a sexpat that online is a better use of my time than being a party animal in the street. All the stuff I got going on makes it hard to even find time to fit [I]new[/I] chicas into my schedule anymore. Which is the way things should be. A "man in the arena" needs to be on his purpose. The beauty of operating in the Dominican Republic on a full time basis is that you can do that and satisfy your needs when you like. It as far away from "sex prison" as you can get.
[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;2729787]Yours is a valid point: the word "pro" is certainly a misnomer. In a regular world, we use the word "professional" to describe people who know how to perform a job well, skillfully and do so. In the ISG universe, the word "pro" refers not at all to the such skills but rather to the frequency and as Grown Man rightly commented, the quality of the job performed is inversely proportional to the frequency of doing the job. No wonder then, that we all avoid "pros" here. But now that the definition is clear, and we are all on the same page, let's not quibble over usage of the word "pro."[/QUOTE]I'm with you Mr. T. Let's not quibble over the usage of the word [B]pro[/B].
Unfortunately there are those among us with a desire to be right and to prove others wrong. They instead choose to play word games. They want to teach me the meaning of words. When we all know what they mean and how they are used. That is why as a "man in the arena" I choose to ignore the critics. If they spent as much time sharing useable intelligence I think that would probably be more helpful to new people.
Most who have spent extensive time in the Dominican Republic have built our network. You shared yours with me up north. I took the base you gave me and built on it. Now, I need at least seven days to run through all of my repeats before I would even need to add a new girl into the rotation. But I will still grab them off the street because I like doing that. And those 2 or 3 AM booty calls are a blast. It is so different than on the online planning that has to occur here in Santo Domingo este.
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;2734053]Although barrio means "neighborhood" if you are familiar with Dominican Culture then you know how the word is used by Dominicans. You will never hear a "blue blood" Dominican referring to sectors of Naco, Arroyo Hondo and Piantini as a barrio. If they live in one of those sectors you will hear them using the name of the sector. [/QUOTE]This is absolutely right. The word barrio (as Mr E correctly stated means nothing but a neighborhood) has a somewhat different, um, negative connotation that I noticed in the DR, first time in Santiago, perhaps because of the Yankee influence or because of the Dominicanyorks?? The girls who lived in fancier parts would shirk from using the word barrio or would correct me.
[QUOTE=Durandpaul;2740766]You are right paying high prices can make it impossible to do more trips.
The union is too strong that's why santo domingo is now my first option in DR. The SD market depends on the local. At some point the prices in sosua won't make sense. There is a chance that two years from now, no solid girl will agree to $100ST, and $150 all night.[/QUOTE]When I first joined this board. I advocated the benefits of Santo Domingo / Santo Domingo este. Individuals in the forum (some who are still posting here today) told me I was crazy, because if I went to Sosua and Boca Chica I would think differently.
It took me two years before I went to Sosua and Boca Chica. The girls in Sosua and Boca Chica were not more attractive than the girls in my harem in Santo Domingo este. They did not give me better sex. Nor was the cost lower.
All these years later, the situation is different for me. But not because of Sosua. I changed. The girls of Sosua that are in the streets, in the clubs and in the restaurants on average are no better than 5, 6, 7's on my numerical scale. If you are already on the North Coast Puerta Plata and Caberete has hotter girls. I pull them in using Tinder and personal connections when I am up there. Now that I have my regulars in place after all these years I only pay 500 DOP more than my first trip up there. I have upped my offer for new talent but that has not worked for me. Not a single chica that I made a higher offer to has performed to the level that made the team.
When I first joined this board. I advocated the benefits of Santo Domingo / Santo Domingo este. Individuals in the forum (some who are still posting here today) told me I was crazy, because if I went to Sosua and Boca Chica I would think differently.
It took me two years before I went to Sosua and Boca Chica. The girls in Sosua and Boca Chica were not more attractive than the girls in my harem in Santo Domingo este. They did not give me better sex. Nor was the cost lower.
All these years later, the situation is different for me. But not because of Sosua. I changed. The girls of Sosua that are in the streets, in the clubs and in the restaurants on average are no better than 5, 6, 7's on my numerical scale. If you are already on the North Coast Puerta Plata and Caberete has hotter girls. I pull them in using Tinder and personal connections when I am up there. Now that I have my regulars in place after all these years I only pay 500 DOP more than my first trip up there. I have upped my offer for new talent but that has not worked for me. Not a single chica that I made a higher offer for a tryout has performed to the level that made the team.
Santo Domingo este remains a better overall location for me. It will always be my base. Even though I actually like Santiago better. But having Sosua as vacation option that works for me gives me an opportunity to change things up and enjoy a different lifestyle when I choose. There are so many opportunities throughout the Dominican Republic. I advise that everyone explore other areas in order to find what is actually best for you. If you learn Spanish your exploration with be more fruitful.
Apologies for the double post.
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;2740882]When I first joined this board. I advocated the benefits of Santo Domingo / Santo Domingo este. Individuals in the forum (some who are still posting here today) told me I was crazy, because if I went to Sosua and Boca Chica I would think differently.
It took me two years before I went to Sosua and Boca Chica. The girls in Sosua and Boca Chica were not more attractive than the girls in my harem in Santo Domingo este. They did not give me better sex. Nor was the cost lower.
All these years later, the situation is different for me. But not because of Sosua. I changed. The girls of Sosua that are in the streets, in the clubs and in the restaurants on average are no better than 5, 6, 7's on my numerical scale. If you are already on the North Coast Puerta Plata and Caberete has hotter girls. I pull them in using Tinder and personal connections when I am up there. Now that I have my regulars in place after all these years I only pay 500 DOP more than my first trip up there. I have upped my offer for new talent but that has not worked for me. Not a single chica that I made a higher offer for a tryout has performed to the level that made the team.
Santo Domingo este remains a better overall location for me. It will always be my base. Even though I actually like Santiago better. But having Sosua as vacation option that works for me gives me an opportunity to change things up and enjoy a different lifestyle when I choose. There are so many opportunities throughout the Dominican Republic. I advise that everyone explore other areas in order to find what is actually best for you. If you learn Spanish your exploration with be more fruitful.
Apologies for the double post.[/QUOTE]The Demographics of Santo Domingo at 2. 9 million make the math even for the non Spanish speakers.
[QUOTE=AlexDeuce;2749916]The Demographics of Santo Domingo at 2. 9 million make the math even for the non Spanish speakers.[/QUOTE]More and more posts and trip reports in the Santo Domingo thread certainly agree with you [B]Mr. AD[/B].
[QUOTE=Turgid;2820992]And also with you, pro or non-pro.[/QUOTE]Thank you very much my brother. Nothing but love for you. There is a difference. And I let the girl choose which one she wants to be. Real dates are with non-pros. I don't take a girl out to do regular social activities and then pay them for sex afterwards. If that is what some do, more power to them.
If you goto a above average restaurant in Santo Domingo / Santo Domingo este you are going to spend between 2000 DOP on the low end and 5000 DOP on the high end. A cabana for the night is going to cost you between 900 - 1800 DOP depending on where you are in the city and what time you arrive. If you get anything for the room that is going to cost you 100 - 500 DOP. So when I read that someone pays 100 USD to fuck all day I know that is some bullshit. They need to state their real costs. Because no matter how many nuts you get to bust, you are going to spending money in addition to that 100 USD for the care and feeding of that chica.
I am a realist. [B]There is no free pussy. [/B]There are just girls who charge you in different ways for it. There are some real PUAs up in here claiming to pull down free pussy all the time. But lets get real. Is it really free pussy? They want us to believe that a chica meets up with them and takes their dick and that is the [I]ONLY [/I] thing that they want. I am not going to say that anyone up in here is lying on their dick. But maybe 10% of chicas in the Dominican Republic are going to do that with a extranjero that is visiting for a short time. Chicas that are already self sufficient may consider it.
I like them all, PROs, Semi-PRO, UTR's, Sugar Babies, Non-PROs. They all have pussy. They all have their purposes and uses. And they all cost money.
May the pussy be with you, always!
Shout out to one of the realist brothers I know for hooking me up on my first trip to Pattaya [B]Mr YyxTravel[/B] You showed me the basics then let me roll on my own. I know they be some people saying you lying on your dick. Critics. Two fingers up (you all know which ones)!
You are a man in the arena amongst men. I found it tough to keep up with you. You go harder than I have ever seen anyone go hard in the paint. The way you taught me to maneuver in Windmill 1 was off the chain! And hanging with you and my new Canadian friend, we will call him [B]Mr. C[/B] will the core of my memories for our Pattaya 2023 trip. Drinking, smoking, breakfast and hanging in the strip clubs, Soi 6 and just walking around chatting and making deals on the street for merchandise.
That Eagle Rare that you brought and those cigars. Damn Bro! You know how to live good. I am writing this sitting on my balcony overlooking Pattay Bay still sipping on that Eagle Rare you left me a having a smoke. I am going to miss this view. And you were the one that recommend this place to me.
Sosua will be nothing like that! But it will be different. We going to have fun in much lower places, where I got my friends Practice a few steps of your Bachata. You just might need it!
[I]Good living the way we live is not to be had by the Cheep Charlies among us.[/I] Sorry for them.
In Medellin where we first met, damn that view off your hotel balcony and your chicas that I personally met, well their beauty and sexuality defy description. Your rotation of chicas are the complete package. And saw that you roll the same exact way in Pattaya.
I am telling all of my friends sitting on the fence about visiting Thailand: [B]Fuck what ya heard. Just go![/B] I have been flying since I was 10 years old. I had all the complaints in my mind. Price of the ticket, length of the flight, will I find Thai girls attractive. [B]All of it bullshit.[/B] Journey of a lifetime (priceless). The planes are big, roomy and comfortable, they are straight beasts of modern engineering,. The quality of international service far exceeds the quality on domestic service. I have gone from: "This will be a once and a lifetime trip" to "I'll be visiting here three times a year".
Now it took me a quick minute to figure out the type of Thai girls that I like. But in the short time I have been here I have built a mini rotation. And I am still having with my future Thai wife. A lovely girl, gainfully employed, willing to share, and still setting up threesomes with her friends for me. Beginners luck? Nah, I like to think of it as being a good judge of character at the base level of humanity. Anyway, you were right!
[B]See you in Sosua my brother![/B]
[QUOTE=YyzTravel;2455384]Looked this up today. Holy shit. This is going to really help. Took like 10 min to get down the basics, now just need to practice a bit. Thanks, Sub![/QUOTE]
Aww, thanks!! .
Strike Sosua off the list. Waste of time. We can check out CGK when you are on this side of the world. [B]Bring the good bourbon![/B].
[QUOTE=YyzTravel;2848398]Aww, thanks!! .[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=YyzTravel;2455384]Looked this up today. Holy shit. This is going to really help. Took like 10 min to get down the basics, now just need to practice a bit. Thanks, Sub!
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhHGdBBF7Xk[/URL][/QUOTE]Some of us are simply challenged when it comes to dancing. That is to say, I cannot learn the bachata, the forro (Brazil), the cumbia (Colombia), etc to any degree of proficiency. But, I have learned that the chicas love to try and teach me. So when I have a girl whom I wish to entice into my hotel room, I tell them in a chat that I have spotify and ask them if they will meet me and teach me the bachata. They always bite.
Granted, they were mostly planning to come to my room anyway (especially if they caught the smell of dominican pesos), but this little ruse typically speeds things along the way. And not only do the lessons result in close physical contact between me and the chica, but they afford me the opportunity to see the chicas move their hips and shake their nalgas!
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2913984]And a lot of the significant others will drop the girl off to the guy. There is a different dynamic in fucking a Dominican guy's girl for free or paying them. They would not be bent out of shape like a Westerner if she was getting money from the guy. But if she was doing it for like or romance without money involved then that is cheating and would make someone angry.[/QUOTE]I happen to like this part of Dominican culture. But is it is not a universal activity throughout all levels of society within the Dominican Republic. Not everyone at every social level looks at prostitution in the same way.
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;2821007]
I like them all, PROs, Semi-PRO, UTR's, Sugar Babies, Non-PROs. They all have pussy. They all have their purposes and uses. And they all cost money.
May the pussy be with you, always![/QUOTE]Great report as usual bang on it. I totally agree with you.
All my trips, no matter how many gifts I take, how creative I talk, in the end, the money talks.
But this process of hunting, communicating before hand, get to know a thing or two, goes little longer but never get real GFE.
BTW. What is UTR's, could not get this lingo.
Appreciate any recent vetted casa or semi pros hang out place to give it a try while sightseeing in santo domingo.
For now I have booked in homewood suites bit far from the zona colonial, thinking of taking metro / cable car while parking the car in this hotel.
Any recommendation for chica friendly hotel or airbnb in the neighborhood to scores some semi / non-pros?
Please check you DM.
UTR = Under the radar; Those are the prostitutes that do not see themselves as prostitutes. It goes something like this: 1. I do not usually do this; 2. Problem stated that money will solve; 3. Amount needed in order to solve the problem.
[I]"I don't usually do this but I don't have any food in the house and I need 2000 pesos to go grocery shopping"[/I]
The absolute best way to get pussy Republica Dominicana is referrals from a girl who you are fucking. They all have networks for other girls who fuck for money. Tinder is my go to solution for pussy; Next is cold approaches but I speak Spanish (Malls especially Mega Centro is good for that). Third is Sosua. LOL! I've also had success off of Skokka. Don't forget about Dominican Cupid.
Go to a cabana if you do not want to take a girl to your room. Have not been to a casa for a long time. But the ones I have been to I have had a good time.
If you want GFE then my standing advice is to get a girlfriend. In my opinion you cannot pay for that. I girl genuinely has to like you.
Now, I have not been in the Dominican Republic for more than a quick minute. So I have not to date information. I'm surprised all the so called experts that used to clown me all the time have not stepped up with their superior information.
Thanks for the props. I am glad you enjoy my work. Right now I am dealing with a bunch of mother fuckers in a new country thread where I am where they cannot handle diversity of opinion. I even have guys who had beef with me here post half way across the world starting beef with me. Fuck them. I am still posting up knowledge for those interested.
[QUOTE=MadMax9336;2915074]Great report as usual bang on it. I totally agree with you.
All my trips, no matter how many gifts I take, how creative I talk, in the end, the money talks.
But this process of hunting, communicating before hand, get to know a thing or two, goes little longer but never get real GFE.
BTW. What is UTR's, could not get this lingo.
Appreciate any recent vetted casa or semi pros hang out place to give it a try while sightseeing in santo domingo.
For now I have booked in homewood suites bit far from the zona colonial, thinking of taking metro / cable car while parking the car in this hotel..[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;2915200]UTR = Under the radar; Those are the prostitutes that do not see themselves as prostitutes. It goes something like this: 1. I do not usually do this; 2. Problem stated that money will solve; 3. Amount needed in order to solve the problem.
[I]"I don't usually do this but I don't have any food in the house and I need 2000 pesos to go grocery shopping"[/I]
The absolute best way to get pussy Republica Dominicana is referrals from a girl who you are fucking. They all have networks for other girls who fuck for money. Tinder is my go to solution for pussy; Next is cold approaches but I speak Spanish (Malls especially Mega Centro is good for that). Third is Sosua. LOL! I've also had success off of Skokka. Don't forget about Dominican Cupid.
Go to a cabana if you do not want to take a girl to your room. Have not been to a casa for a long time. But the ones I have been to I have had a good time.
If you want GFE then my standing advice is to get a girlfriend. In my opinion you cannot pay for that. I girl genuinely has to like you.
Now, I have not been in the Dominican Republic for more than a quick minute. So I have not to date information. I'm surprised all the so called experts that used to clown me all the time have not stepped up with their superior information.
Thanks for the props. I am glad you enjoy my work. Right now I am dealing with a bunch of mother fuckers in a new country thread where I am where they cannot handle diversity of opinion. I even have guys who had beef with me here post half way across the world starting beef with me. Fuck them. I am still posting up knowledge for those interested.[/QUOTE]Thank you once again for bro help and never let others down you as we cannot satisfy every one in the world.
I am bit surprised as who ever visits this site has one moto which is mongering, not sure why people beef with each other.
If you don't have any thing to offer, at least give respect who shares the intel. I msyself never had any beef with any one.
I even shared my contacts after every trip who ever DMed me including the airbnb owners phone numbers.
Its one life and not worth fighting each other especially when we all have a commmon goal in this life.
Once again thank you for your intel and contacts you provided. Hope I will reciprocate back after I finish my trip and find any good contacts.
[QUOTE=MadMax9336;2915251]Thank you once again for bro help and never let others down you as we cannot satisfy every one in the world.
I am bit surprised as who ever visits this site has one moto which is mongering, not sure why people beef with each other.
If you don't have any thing to offer, at least give respect who shares the intel. I msyself never had any beef with any one.
I even shared my contacts after every trip who ever DMed me including the airbnb owners phone numbers.
Its one life and not worth fighting each other especially when we all have a commmon goal in this life.
Once again thank you for your intel and contacts you provided. Hope I will reciprocate back after I finish my trip and find any good contacts.[/QUOTE]You are welcome brother. Half a world away and I am still keeping it real in the Dominican Republic threads.
I'm just sorry I did not have much to offer you. The mercenary nature of the girls in the Dominican Republic caused me to simply cut them when I left. Now I have put the Dominican Republic in my rear view mirror. It is a place to be visited not lived in for me. But the chicas have good hardware. But the girls of Thailand have much better software. I cannot wait to explore the rest of Thailand once my projects are finished there.
When I return to the Dominican Republic I will be starting over from scratch. But it will not be my primary destination. Going to explore the rest of LATAM. Been doing a lot of research and there are many areas that look promising for base on the "WESTSIDE" of the earth.
When I first came to ISG posting about the Dominican Republic I caught a lot negativity. Most of those that were making critical posts about me no longer post. So, it just shows how a man in the arena can outlast a critic. They get tired of beating on their keyboards. But like a hydra there alway emerges new critics to take their place. No need to name them because they know who they are. Some were so critical of me that the administrator made it impossible for them to respond to my posts. How people get wrapped up in themselves and their personal vendettas with me and lose focus of the purpose of the forums (pussy) is beyond me.
I read a responses to your post in the Sosua thread that were completely useless. It is comforting to know that the same lame ass mother fuckers are still posting the same lame ass shit. Now, I am not saying they are not knowledgable about the Dominican Republic. I am saying they the majority of their posts are not helpful to someone how his new.
That seems to be a unique quality about the Dominican Republic threads. Bunch of girly men being critical about basic man stuff like how a man spends his money or who he fucks. Let them have at it. There will always be people like me that keep it real and are willing to help new people.
I hope you are able to take the information I provided you and leverage it into a great time in the Dominican Republic. Enjoy your trip!
[B]Old Kool[/B]
You make a good point. But just let the critics have their say. It has been like a broken record up in the Sosua thread for many years. One of my favorite lines (by a frequent poster) was the only reason someone likes Sosua is because they have not been any place else. That is like saying you only like hamburgers because you have never had a steak. Well here is a news flash, you can like both. The one thing that does surprise me about Sosua is how expensive it has gotten. I am not talking about the chicas. I am a half a world a way and my network of chicas in Sosua and Santo Domingo are still hitting me up. Chicas are not a problem in Sosua. I never have a problem finding a new one to work into my rotation. I double over in laugher at the comments by those stuck in the "glory days". Especially the ones that have all these problems with the place but just keep going back. Does not make any sense to me. But to each their own.
Sosua is what it is. But if you are looking for the best the Dominican Republic has to offer there are many other places. That being said, I like Sosua. But at this point it is more for the memories and a short visit than anything close to the time I used to spend there.
I hit the Dominican Republic and figured out my way around in Santo Domingo este. No help from anybody, especially from these threads in the beginning. Over time I met some very helpful people. But by then I was in the position of having developed independent knowledge of an area no one else was in nor hardly visited. When I met others of like mind and experience it was a sharing of mutual information.
[QUOTE=SlayerABC;2922724]Main question is 3 somes. I've seen guys say never take 2 chicas especially if I don't speak Spanish, just read where some guy was held at knifepoint by 1 of the chicas he brought up when he didn't like the friend and declined her. What's the best way for me to get a 3 some if I'm just going to Airbnb? I don't want to head to a casa unless there's some you guys really recommend with 8+ looks, main thing for me is I want to enjoy the chicas face, not just body. What's the best way to accomplish non-stop 3 somes with 8's and above?[/QUOTE]I have never had a problem with a chica or doing a threesome. Because I adhere to [B]The Ten Chica Commandments[/B].
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;1892373]I've been in this game for years. It made me an animal. There's rules to this shit. I wrote me a manual. A step-by-step booklet for you to get your two balls drained while many pesos remain.
Rule numero uno: Never let a chica know how much dough you hold cause you know. The chicas be use pussy against thee but don't you be a sugar daddy like me.
Number two: Never let them know you next move. Don't you know mongers move in complete silence without violence. Take it from your highness. Arrive unannounced and always much new pussy you'll pounce.
Number three: never trust what chica may say. She will lie every day to get the pesos in play. She be making stuff up to get that fast buck. You need to set the tool straight and let her know what's up.
Number four: know you heard this before. Never get sprung just because you cum.
Number five: never let chica rest where you rest at. I don't care if the chica wants to pout; tell her out!
Number six: chica want god damn credit, dead it. You think a chica be paying you back, shit forget it.
Seven: this rule is so underrated, Keep your chica and your personal business completely separated. Chicas and money don't mix. Ignore this. Find yourself broker than shit.
Number eight: never keep big money on you. Those chicas fucking you will steal your stuff too.
[b]Number nine[/b]: should been number one to me. Two chicas you don't know will bring you certain whoa. Threesome in your room is always a no go. Turn head for a minute you be left with nothing in it.
Number ten: A strong word called compassion. Strictly for freshmen, not for veterans. If a chica has a problem just say "hell no". She's only there to suck and fuck, rain, sleet, hail, snow.
Follow these rules you have plenty of pussy to bang up. If not, you might just have a bad wake up.
I'm out![/QUOTE]
To each their own.
The Dominican Republic used to be inexpensive. 10 years ago.
I suppose if you are measuring by standards in the (Dis) United States of America prices now it still looks inexpensive.
If you travel the world you can easily see (as I did) that Colombia and Thailand make the Dominican Republic look as expensive as fuck. Especially given the fact that infrastructure is so bad in the Dominican Republic. For me the Dominican Republic is a place to visit, not a place to live.
I have friends that still live full-time in the Dominican Republic. So I am not going to let some 4 day visitor tell me about a country I spent 10 years in. LOL!
We have reached the point where new people and veterans alike are taking the position that there is no need to speak Spanish in Spanish speaking countries.
[B]Fuck! Shit! Whoa[/B]!
I guess I wasted a lot of time and mental effort learning to speak Spanish. OK! Lesson learned. LOL!
In my opinion, it is a very North American small minded thinking. But, as I have learned it is not my concern. It was only a suggestion anyway.
[I]Today, it is a global language with about 500 million native speakers, mainly in the Americas and Spain, and about 600 million when including second language speakers. Spanish is the official language of 20 countries, as well as one of the six official languages of the United Nations[/I]
[B]My Time; My Money; My Dick; My Life[/B]
Will not be defined by my current set of internet haters here on ISG.
I spend 4 - 8 hours on my computer everyday. You see I am so poor. I need I need to earn money. Otherwise I would not be able to buy pussy like the rest of you rich mother fuckers up in here. Not hating. Just saying because I am a man and I can admit to my limitations. I am seeing crazy numbers being posted by guys throughout the threads in the Dominican Republic (and not in a good way).
I am so poor that is why I moved to Thailand because I needed to lower my expenses. The Dominican Republic especially the puta pueblo in Sosua is so damn expensive. I can't afford it anymore.
Do you know how much land costs in the Dominican Republic?
[B]1.55 USD/m2[/B]
At least that is what I paid for mine. I don't know if I got a good deal or bad one. But getting my name on blue paper in the Dominican Republic has been one of the best moves I have ever made in the Dominican Republic.
But I digress. We are here to talk about hookers as [B]King Oakiedoke[/B] loving refers too them. The word I use is prostitute. That being said I don't know what a prostitute costs in Sosua these days. I have my regular ones. If prices have gone up. I'll see if I get grandfathered in even though I am not yet a grandfather. LOL!
[B]I miss the Dominican Republic[/B] I miss that ass, dem bodies on dose chicas over there. But I do not miss those attitudes. Nor do I miss the general lack of decent infrastructure in the Dominican Republic as a whole. There is a complete lack of work ethic. Mr. E pointed that out in a post in the Santo Domingo thread. These issues among other is why the Dominican Public is in the category of being a nice place to visit and not to live. When I visit, I live like un hefe (a boss) and enjoy my blue paper investment. There is much better infrastructure, attitudes, interactions with governments and the mentality of the girls here in Thailand. Just my opinions after having lived for 10 years in the Dominican Republic. I have even met ex-pats living here that have told me they came to the same conclusions I have.
BTW, does everyone know that I am a [B]Motherfucker[/B]. Yes, yes I am. I fuck mothers all the time. My guess is those reading this do also. Unless your fuck criteria precludes you from fucking prostitutes (or other chicas for that matter) that have kids.
This brings me to another point. [B]Since when did the posters on ISG get to be soft a marshmallows[/B]? Are you one of those supportive of the Pom Pom guy's [B]Coolie Low[/B] idea that profanity should not be used on a adult site? I can write elegant, eloquent prose on an elevated level. Can someone please tell me why I need to that on THIS site?
This is an adult site, of adult men, talking about having sex with girls (and many others things from the number of personal comments I receive about me and my writing). My advice is if you don't like my use of language put me on ignore. If I did not direct the language you find offense at you, then exactly what is the problem? Those who have a problem with my language need to find a chica to breastfeed them in order to calm their nerves. Make sure you tell her to bring you some cookies also and a crying towel because you got butt hurt and need to share your feelings. [B]ROTFLMAO[/B]!
Society is changing. We have moved from an information society to the new attention society. It is an attention economy. Don't believe me. Take a chica out on a date. For that matter just have a drink with her. Count how many times she looks at her smart phone (aren't they all these days) while she is with you. These smart phone are shortening our attention span. People are having more and more trouble focusing on long form content.
[QUOTE=Nite_Runner;2925050]Sub -.
Have to share that you made me chuckle at your reference to AOL and the "dial-up modem". Yes, I was a bit of a "geek" when I was younger and of course, we all thought we were the "cat's ass" for being part of the WWW.
Keep it coming!!
N_R.[/QUOTE]Bro, it goes back even further for me. I was chosen in a pilot program to teach kids about computers. This was when there was this huge machine that you typed on (yes you read that right no screen) and then hit enter. You then waited for a response the got typed back on that paper green and white lined paper with the holes on the side to feed it properly.
When there was an upgrade to a black and white CRT the kids in my computer group were doing high fives with each other. LOL! My Dad bought me an original Apple II computer. I showed promise in that area. I am sure he would be so impressed to see what I do with my Ivy League education these days. NOT! LOL!
In the end we are here to have fun. So it's ok if King Oakiedoke and jester POM POM guy [B]Coolie Low[/B] and [B]WoManizales911[/B] want to make fun of me while I am in the Kings court. LOL (Sosua Reports)! It is all in good fun. Although I see some people are taking this WAY too seriously.
So, while I am working on my computer on my projects sometimes I have dead time. How difficult does anyone think it is for me to write responses to the idiocy I see posted here in the [B]Sosua Reports[/B] thread posted by [B]King Oakiedoke[/B], his POM POM guy [B]Coolie Low[/B] and [B]WoManizales911[/B] a constant basis?
Easier than it is for [B]King Oakiedoke[/B] write his nonsensical one line / two line posts that contain zero useful information for new people. I bet it hard to type when you are being distracted by two chicas one sucking your dick and the other licking your ass. I'the find it hard to focus on my projects and type also. That is why I don't do it. I have time for fun and time to work on my projects. Since pussy does not dominate my life, I really have lots of time to do what I want since I live on my own terms (except for being distressingly poor).
Can I take a trip somewhere and once week later decide I am going to stay. Yeah, I can do that. Yeah, I did that. I got a passport, a credit card, a smart phone and a internet connection. Anyone who is not living where they want to live or how they want to live needs to take a look in the mirror. Especially in this day an age. They should not be coming onto the internet after two years because they are bored IRL disgorging their personal problems like a Gorilla doing the reach around and fling. Those in sex prison should not hate on free men. If you are in sex prison you put yourself there. Pussy is all around you no matter where you live. Learn how to get it. That is what I did. That is why I was able to move to the Dominican Republic and not be phased by the pussy support system that occupy the place. Because I got plenty of pussy when I lived in my country of origin. I left because I wanted a better life. Not to get some pussy.
I am just one voice among many:
[QUOTE=CoolieHigh;2923900]Because of those experience a man becomes seasoned to the game and can pick BETTER quality of women as he now can size up these females a mile away and can tell if she's a winner or if she going to cause me problems. For a newbie not so much.[/QUOTE]Now I don't know if the OP is a infrequent visitor that is subject to believing the myths that our puta pueblo expat experts have so thoughtfully dispelled, but clearly the OP holds a different opinion from our expat experts "[I]dont worry, be happy[/I]" philosophy on Sosua (please view the OP's entire post for a true comparison).
[U]Sosua through the lens of former frequent visitor[/U] Part 1.
I am a former frequent visitor to Sosua for reasons that I will outline for everyone below. My first trip to Sosua was in May of 2016 my last trip was July of 2024.
Routinely spent 14 - 30 days at a time. No, I did not file a life report every time I went to Sosua. Hard to file a trip report while I was actually living in the Dominican Republic.
[QUOTE=Oakie;1991954][b]Well said MrSub[/b].
We have so many different takes on Sosua, I sometime find it hard to believe we are talking about the same place.
Sosua, Dominican Republic, right?
Everybody is different, and a newbie can luck out or have a bad time on any single day, but veteran posters here have such different experiences and attitudes towards the locals and chicas, that it is obvious that they see everyday Sosua through a different pair of glasses. It's like the 3 blind men describing an elephant.
Sosua is what it is. It is not for everybody.
Aside from the seasonal highs and lows, it is pretty much unchanging, and the locals are the same from year to year. The locals I met 8 years ago are still doing basically the same work in different spots all over town. Life there goes on.
Remember, it is what YOU bring to Sosua, that primarily determines the quality of your experience.[/QUOTE]There are any number of posts where I outline both the positives and the negatives of the Sosua. Why? [B]Because I keep it real[/B]. No rose colored glasses to corrected nearsightedness.
Because I keep it real and do not kneel to the puta pueblo expat experts among us, I get labeled as a Sosua detractor when nothing could be further from the truth. I know pussy is available to me all over the Dominican Republic because I speak Spanish. My "keep it real" mentality "gores the ox" of the "Sosua is the best place in the entire world to hire prostitutes" crew and gets me beat down like a unloved step child on a regular basis by that same crew. But I keep getting up off the canvas. I keep sharing information. Three individuals have publicly acknowledged that they my information, opinions and perspective useful. I am appreciative of that. That is why I keep posting in the face of those who would like to be able to shout down views they disagree with.
Sosua is only one place on the list of places where men like to hire prostitutes. Just google "sex tourism" and you will get a list of the 10 most popular counties. You will find that the Dominican Republic is on it. Can wee make a note that the Dominican Republic is a country. Sosua is just one tiny little puta pueblo inside of the Dominican Republic.
Does the Sosua have the best beach in the Dominican Republic? No, not by a long shot! Is Sosua the only place you can hire a prostitute in the Dominican Republic? No, they are available wherever you look. If you can speak Spanish you can even goto Santiago, Santo Domingo or Puerta Plata and find them with ease (sorry I could not resist). LOL!
Oh, and just for the record I think Punta Cana is a much nicer place than Puerto Plata.
[U]Part 2[/U]
The number of visitors to Sosua from North America far outweigh the number of visitors from other countries. Even with that said, have met many from countries other than on the North American continent. In fact, it would not be hard for me to search and find those posts complaining about that. FACT! As there are those that believe that North Americans from a certain part of the continent are "ruining" the place.
No doubt people with cash frequent Sosua. I met a visitor from Germany that was staying my hotel. He was visiting Sosua for a month. He explained that this was his "fuck" hotel we he ran up in chicas. He was staying laying his head on the regular in a much nicer (and more expensive) place than I was. No hos to disturb his peace. Hard for a chica to give you any problem if you don't have any of your personal stuff in the room. Allows you to walk out the the room if a chica gives you problem and explain the problem to the hotel staff / security. Nice!
[B]Sosua is expensive as fuck[/B]!
Just had a report from a friend less than a month ago and he confirmed what I had already figured out from my trips to Medellin. Sosua is no longer the overall value that it was. I can see the appeal by those who get work release passes from North America. But with my increased knowledge in the world, Sosua and the Dominican Republic has become a place for me to visit not live. I didn't really realize that until I traveled to Medellin, Colombia. The infrastructure there is far superior. That is more important to me than pussy. At this point, I would only visit Sosua to meet friends there or take a break from the my grueling work routine on my blue paper investment in the Dominican Republic. Does that mean I do not like Sosua? Only in the closed minds of our Sosua expats that act like a negative comment about Sousa is the equivalent of someone kicking his dog. I still like Sosua. I just isn't the priority to me it once was. I am keeping it real here and this is my opinion based on my experiences.
[B]The Cmdr decides to live in the puta pueblo of Sosua[/B]
Say it isn't so. But it was! I put down a deposit on an apartment with the intent of spending half of the year there. Wanted to set up my own place and not have to live out of a hotel while I visited. I even bought all the one use appliances for the kitchen I needed and designed and built a solar back up generator to be installed (solar power generation is a profitable hobby of mine). So, tell me again that I don't like Sosua. Because when you do I'll just laugh in your face! LOL!
[B]So, what happened you ask?[/B]
Pattaya happened! Wheels up DFW; Wheels down BKK, 30 hours of travel time later. It was no joke! I forgot the model of the AirBus I was on. But was a mother fucking BEAST! Did the 12 hour leg from MSP to ICN. Clean, re-supply; fuel, new crew and that mother fucker is back in the air for the return trip. Each day; Every day. FUCK! A modern feat of human engineering. So, after the 1. 5 hour ride to Pattaya I arrived at the hotel and boom! My entire life changed. Within one week I decided I wanted to live here not in the puta pueblo known as Sosua. So I did what I needed to do and I never looked back.
[U]Part 3[/U]
[B]69ing with a street prostitute in Sosua[/B]? Are you fucking kidding me? Not me. No fucking way. To each their own.
Nah, I don't pay to eat pussy. I pay for a prostitute to lick my ass, suck my dick, swallow my cum and take my splooge in her pussy or ass. You won't find any moral superiority coming from me or superiority of any type. I reject the idea that some proffer that if you employ a prostitute, the prostitute comes out ahead on the deal.
That defies basic economic reasoning. As the prostitute is providing a social / sexual service (why someone would want to [U]pay[/U] to eat pussy is beyond me). The only way a prostitute comes out ahead on the deal is if she does not satisfy the customer. You can find many posts in the [B]Sosua Reports[/B] thread detailing those types of experiences.
Using the logic that I have read that has been posted in [B]Sosua Reports[/B] by our puta pueblo expat experts recently, that would mean when you take your car to your mechanic to have the fluids drained out of it, that afterwards when you pay your mechanic they got over on you. Only if they did not refill the fluids of your vehicle. LOL! Because you paid for a service that you either cannot do or prefer not to do yourself. How is that any different from hiring a prostitute.
Prostitution does operate in a relative safe environment in Sosua. Key word is "relative". Since that is the case the question becomes: Relative to what? If if was so damn safe there why would hotels have security? Sosua is a small quaint beach town with a lot of hos up in it. But there are other less savory individuals that roam the street in the early morning hours. I have encountered them and come out unscathed.
I'm not going to comment on [B]CESTOR[/B] but I know a little bit about police work. I'the throw my lot in with PN every time. There is crime in every city and every country. There is not doubt [B]Sosua[/B] is safer than lets say Medellin. On the other hand many of the problems I read that are encounter by tourists in many places in LATAM is because the inability to speak Spanish and lack of situation awareness. Yet we have individuals who advocate that learning Spanish is not important if all you want to do is hire prostitutes in Sosua. [B]I disagree[/B].
Sosua is not as safe say Pattaya, where I can roam 24/07/365 without worry. Pattaya is so safe I rarely see the men in brown except in a traffic enforcement role. That last time I was walking down PC, CESTOR was rolling heavy on mother fuckers there. Like I said, been a while maybe things have changed. Sosua could be a more kinder and gentler place, now. If my memories of the place do not line up with current conditions let me know. Maybe I will come back to enjoy the new "kinder and gentler" Sosua.
[QUOTE=Oakie;2925843]The average sex tourist here does not need, mamasans, pimps, taxi drivers, street hustlers, wing men[/QUOTE]Exactly!
[QUOTE=Oakie;2925843]or [i]manifestos from anonymous internet posters on some obscure web site, in order to get laid[/i].[/QUOTE]We also do not need ghost writings from anonymous internet posters on some obscure web site to reinterpret the writings of others that have posted on the same referenced site. The record of experiences and opinions are available for anyone who chooses to review them.
[U]Part 4[/U]
Everyone knows all it takes it is pesos in one hand, condoms in the other (should you choose to use them) and a hard dick (there are medications that will help those who have any trouble in that arena). [B]BBFS[/B] is an hot topic in the Pattaya Reports threat. Rarely see it addressed in the Sosua Reports thread.
I have only engaged in BBFS one time in Sosua. It was an older lady (early thirties) that actually insisted that I meet her at the carro publico stop out on the main road across from the Texaco. I walked her to my room and she explained she do not want to be seen in a puta pueblo unescorted. I understood. She rewarded my gentlemanly behavior, by letting me splooge in her pussy, swallowing my cum and letting me fuck her ass and blow splooge there also. It was a epic afternoon / evening. We spent 8 hours together and I walked her back to the carro publico stop. 3000 DOP. This just one of the many outstanding experiences I have had in Sosua.
As I read the quote above from the latest manifesto of an anonymous internet poster I found it to be very interesting, that he acknowledges therein that none of these opinions written in the [B]Sosua Reports[/B] thread are needed from anyone posting here to get laid. Stating the obvious, I think we all know that. Maybe we don't? Ok, but I do. I got laid on my first trip to Sosua in 2016 just fine without any help from anyone. It is a very straight forward process. But none of the experiences were better than the ones was having at the time with my six girl harem I put together in Santo Domingo Este.
There is no doubt that the best information comes from a variety of posted opinions. Even if they are from "anonymous internet posters on some obscure web site". But the purpose of ISG is to share information on having sex with girls. Those who have found the site should take the information and incorporate it into their methods as they see fit.
I will go on to add that no one should be up in here being critical of what others are doing or how they are doing it. Far from being critical, I have always stayed focused on sharing information based on what I am doing. As they like to say: YMMV.
[U]Part 5[/U]
I find it difficult to make a blanket statement about [B]Sousa[/B]. I feel a lot safer sitting on my blue paper investment than I do sitting in Sosua. I feel a lot safer in Pattaya than Sosua. I feel safer in Sosua than I do in Medellin.
[B]Safety is relative[/B]
Maintain your situational awareness at all times. Helps if you can speak the language Exercise common sense. Make sure someone you can trust got you back if you plan to get drunk.
When I visit Sosua the security personnel have been the same individuals. They remember me when I arrive and they see me off when I leave. That is because every time I have left I have shook hands with them and in my palm was a folded gift of DOP. That is how men handle their business. With respect and appreciation of others.
Think it doesn't matter? It does. One time a chica came to my room. We were greeting each other inside when five minutes later there was a knock at my door. It was a security person. The chica did not stop by security and hand over their cedula. The security person was not having that. There you have it!
I always chica proof my room. You have stay on your game. I once left many DOP in arms length of a chica. I forgot about it. Paper money is worthless to me anyway. I went to the bathroom. She did not touch it. One of the advantages of regulars. But even that won't protect you if she decides this is the last time she is going to see you.
Of course ISG does not represent the views of the "hundreds of thousands who come to Sosua or settle there". Because we don't have those views we do not what they are. The statement "who enjoy Sosua and settle here" is based on what exactly? A guess by the writer.
What we have is the views of others who often travel worldwide like [B]Mr. E[/B] and [B]Grownman[/B] who give us insights and wisdom on their travel experiences. Surely, individuals do not begrudge that (well maybe some do). LOL!
I will end by saying if Sosua is Disneyland, Pattaya is Disneyworld. Both are fun.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1923677]You say the craziest stuff. Pattaya was built around prostitution when the servicemen would go there for are&are during the Vietnam War. Today there are literally hundreds of bars and clubs and massage parlors that you can get a chick from to fuck or fuck them on premises.
The only prostitution you see in Sosua is generally by a handfull of freelancers on half a block of the entire town. If mongers stopped going to Sosua tomorrow, the only ones that would suffer would be two hotels, two restaurants, and two bars. [/QUOTE]A very accurate summation, now that I have experienced both places for myself. As usual these are my opinions unless I am dealing with subject matter of a factual nature.
[B]May the pussy be with you, always[/B]!
[QUOTE=PahllusMaximus;2926899]USD: THB at 37, best rate in years. Bad news is that the rates seem to be $USD 80 for a session and Bangkok is relatively expensive, noisy and polluted. GFE and anal not readily on the table, and its a minimum of 20 hours from the west coast, add another 6 for the east and pretty horrible time zone dislocation. Weed is legal, but that's best left the stoners. The beaches are polluted and insipid. It's not what is was in the 1990's and early noughties.
Brazil is USD: BRL 5. 65 which is also relatively high, and a low-mid quality session is $USD 17.70 (100 BRL) and a mind blowing, 1 hour threesome about $USD 60-70. GFE, DFK and anal tend to be automatically on offer. Weed can be found fairly easily if you want to be a stoner. Great beaches in several places, especially if you get out of Rio (and Rio is pretty good if you head south west).
It is said that good quality massage cannot be found in Brazil. I disagree. That's inexperienced tourist talk. You just have to shop around, and if you are serious, hit the physiotherapy angle and / or get a male for a sports massage but make it clear "no extras".
With flights direct from NYC, DC area, Atlanta and Miami or Dallas, Brazil is a no brainer.[/QUOTE]Thank you very much PahllusMaximus. I only disagree with you about jet lag. If you take day and rest you will be good in 48 hours. Especially if you bust that nut inside before bedtime.
Looking at it from the outside, given the lack of posters in the [B]Sousa Reports[/B] not many active ISG members are visiting Sousa.
Things must be really slow when long time ex-pats are posting about philosophy of hiring prostitutes in the [B]Sousa Reports[/B] thread.
[QUOTE=DoubleDouble;2939357]But Sub, don't stop posting, we enjoy reading your reports. Even if it old, it still gives context and information.[/QUOTE]Than you for your props brother.
The administrator disagrees with you and is moving my posts about Sosua to the [B]Rants[/B] section. Had I known this was the new policy I would have posted in my user blog instead of the [B]Sosua Reports[/B] thread. I made a typo and meant to write a had not visited Sousa in the last 24 months. But others can post about Sosua no matter where the happen to be in the world. More confirmation for me that even if I return to Sousa or any other place in the Dominican Republic there is no longer a reason for me to post about it.
I didn't even use the phrase [I]mother fucker[/I] in my last post about Sousa. But obviously I have become too controversial of a figure in the Dominican Republic threads and must be censored or silenced.
[QUOTE=Koki9290;2941881]As a gringo who has [b]lived[/b] in La Vega and Santo Domingo for 4-5 months each year for the past 15 years, Oakie's advice is spot on.[/QUOTE]Spot on for expats. You are agreeing with a post that does not focus on [I]casual visitors[/I] but waxes philosophically about expat living in the Dominican Republic. I personally find the the advice given by the the individual you commented on to be useless.
But he has his Kingdom and his court jester. I am in the unique position having both lived in the Dominican Republic and been a casual visitor to Sosua. Two very different worlds.
Prices of those places are straight rip offs check out the: [B]Waterfront Hotel Playa Alisha[/B].
[URL]https://playaalicia.com/[/URL]
The prices of the hotels listed above only go further to show me how far down Sosua has gotten on the sex tourism value scale. There a lot better options out there other than Sosua if you are an [B]International Trick[/B].
[QUOTE=Showdown;2943964]Although I swore off Sosua years ago but I am desperate for a week long balls draining experience. I am working from home for the immediate future which means I can work anywhere as long as I have internet and a quiet place. With that said the closest place from the USA to do this is the DR (and Sosua specifically).
Ideally I would like to have an AirBnB or a hotel that is quiet and have excellent wifi (for work) for one week. I would like to grab girls throughout the day in between meetings for a quick BJ or f*uck. With that said can anyone recommend a good accommodation? Is the action in the daytime sufficient and where would it be found?.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Wrx2005;2946954]I strictly use Charles Schwab as a debit card as well. Or I use it in my digital wallet on my phone. I usually don't use any ATM's in Sosua anymore. Just yesterday, I went to PP to use the Banco Nacional ATM I usually withdraw from. That machine was down for awhille three times I vistited PP. But now it's working. In fact the machine is brand new. It used to be a fee less machine. Now it charges 150 pesos per withdrawal transaction. No big deal for me, since I'm using a Charles Schwab card.[/QUOTE]Another advantage of using Schwab is that if you have a problem with your card they will send you a new one anywhere you happen to be in the world. ATMs in the various location in Republica Dominican have snatched my card twice. Schwab had a new one to me by express mail deliver service within two days. Was having so much fun in Pattaya, Thailand that I didn't pay any attention to the expiration date on my debt card. Big oops. Schwab had a new one to me by DHL International Mail in two days. Holla!
It should be noted that Schwab puts a limit on the total amount of money you can withdraw from your account in a 24 hour period. If you want to know your limit, call them. Once you know you limit all you need to know is the exchange rate for the money you are withdrawing and BOOM, you know how much you can pull out in local currency. That method works for me all the world. Now that I no longer just planting my ass in the Dominican Republic. It has been nice to get some perspective on things.
I am actually doing quite well in Thailand. But unlike some people think it is not my new home. I have multiple homes throughout the world. Including one in the Dominican Republic.
I have been quiet because since it has been quite a while (14 months) since I have been in the Dominican Republic I don't have much to contribute.
Thailand has excellent infrastructure compared to to the Dominican Republic and the cost of living is one third of the Dominican Republic. The girls act right and the crime is low. The police don't fuck with you and the government does not either. Oh, and I am a 10 minute walk to the beach.
So, lower infrastructure, low crime, rule of law, girls that have the right attitude and a government that believes in the rule of law. What is there not to like.
[B]I am enjoying myself[/B]
I have seen videos the bar seen with 100's of girls and lady boys. The vast majority of women do not appeal to me. What is your take on the quality of women. I tend to like them thick. I am sure there is some of everything but the 90 pounders don't do it for me.
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;2951174]I am actually doing quite well in Thailand. But unlike some people think it is not my new home. I have multiple homes throughout the world. Including one in the Dominican Republic.
I have been quiet because since it has been quite a while (14 months) since I have been in the Dominican Republic I don't have much to contribute.
Thailand has excellent infrastructure compared to to the Dominican Republic and the cost of living is one third of the Dominican Republic. The girls act right and the crime is low. The police don't fuck with you and the government does not either. Oh, and I am a 10 minute walk to the beach.
So, lower infrastructure, low crime, rule of law, girls that have the right attitude and a government that believes in the rule of law. What is there not to like.
[B]I am enjoying myself[/B][/QUOTE]
I follow a very simple rule: I do not goto a steak restaurant and order chicken. If I want chicken I goto a Pica Pollo place. It follows that if you do not like the features of Asian girls don't fly halfway around the world to be a [B]International Trick[/B] in asian countries.
I have two friends, one loves Colombia, the other Dominican Republic. I facilitated both of their trips. During their visits they both told me that they really could not believe how good life was here until they came to visit themselves.
[B]Pussy does not rule my life[/B] I spend more time figuring out what to eat than I do who to fuck. Here in Thailand, I find everything I am looking for to LIVE well without all the fuckery that goes on in the Dominican Republic. I have said it before the girls [B]act right[/B] here.
I heard someone put the way: The hardware of Latinas is superior, but the software of Thai girls more than makes up for it. If you are coming over to be a [B]International Trick[/B], Sosua and many other places in the Dominican Republic are excellent for that. I just wouldn't want to live there.
Because for me to deal with Latinas, I got to keep my hand up with a can of [I]act right[/I] spray in it and use it liberally. Managing my relationships here with Thai girls is effortless and provides me with a lot more peace in my life. [B]I tell a girl here what I want and I get it[/B]! Once they are comfortable with you they will try you but years of dealing with Latinas made me ready for it. A quick spray of [I]act right[/I] and they get back into line.
BTW, I find everything I could want when it comes to body shapes in Thai Girls. There are many that are much more than [I]knock kneed bimbos walking like hos[/I]. The best combination is when I find a Thai girl with a latina body. It is is simply exquisite. It is the metric system over here. 90 pounds is 40.9 kilograms. Those girls do not even even register on from my moisture seeking missile guidance system. I am good with them being 50 - 60 kilograms. Start having a problem with them 60 KG +.
Also, I speak Spanish. I do not speak Thai. I need to learn how to speak Thai. In the Dominican Republic I can talk to any girl. I cannot do that here if she does not speak Spanish. That (which I can personally correct if I put some work in) and the fact that I cannot own land are the only disadvantages of spending extensive time here. I keep in mind that is a country in Asia under a monarchy. Things do not work the same way here as the do in the west. So do not drag your tired and fucked up western ideas and attitudes half way across the world and expect to have a good time. Here your western system of values to do not serve you well. Criticize the monarchy, you will do six months in jail. Fuck your status as an citizen of the United States of America.
In fact the absolute worst thing about being here are my fellow Americans. The ones who do not look like me. I am farang dam. This is a certain type of farang that comes over here (and as always come over here) and simply do not like seeing farang dam in what they consider their personal playground. I present an example of posts from the Thailand threads:
[QUOTE]while I rarely go these days decided to go walking street 808 and saw a number of black travelers and it kinda shock be as I can remember when going there just say six years ago you have a few African Americans and some Africans mixed now there are several of them most of the younger than 40. My guess is these are former DR Colombia travelers that previously wouldn't go because of the long flight but that no longer deters them. [/QUOTE]This one was directed at me specifically:
[QUOTE]Thats the part that gets you, right boy? The fact that I am and always will be better than you. [/QUOTE]I have enchanted more racism in the Thailand treads than I ever have in the entire time of posting here on ISG. For the first time ever I have had to put multiple people on ignore.
Right now I have three girls in the Dominican Republic that I have been fucking almost since the day I arrived there waiting for me to come back from Thailand. Those are just my regulars and they are spread out all over the country.
I am off to Brazil next week, and after a couple of months will make my way north to Colombia and the DR.
Then, I can make comparisons between Pattaya and Sosua.
Pattaya is the Ritz Carlton while Sosua is a small boutique. Both have value but serve different purposes. Pattaya is 24/7 with 1000's of ladies focused on getting your dollars. Sosua is a small town with a few 100 ladies mostly working weekends. While Pattaya is busting city Sosua is quite quint by comparison. So depending on what you like either can be your preference. If you are into a lot of action Sosua could be disappointing. The action in Sosua is slower but for many is meets tjheir needs. I would not spend more then 4 or 5 days.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2961839]I am off to Brazil next week, and after a couple of months will make my way north to Colombia and the DR.
Then, I can make comparisons between Pattaya and Sosua.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=OldKool;2961873]Pattaya is the Ritz Carlton while Sosua is a small boutique. Both have value but serve different purposes. Pattaya is 24/7 with 1000's of ladies focused on getting your dollars. Sosua is a small town with a few 100 ladies mostly working weekends. While Pattaya is busting city Sosua is quite quint by comparison. So depending on what you like either can be your preference. If you are into a lot of action Sosua could be disappointing. The action in Sosua is slower but for many is meets tjheir needs. I would not spend more then 4 or 5 days.[/QUOTE]For some obscure reason, I am fluent in Spanish, so just being somewhere where everyone speaks Spanish is useful and interesting for me. And, no, nobody speaks Spanish in Pattaya.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2961957]For some obscure reason, I am fluent in Spanish, so just being somewhere where everyone speaks Spanish is useful and interesting for me. And, no, nobody speaks Spanish in Pattaya.[/QUOTE]I met a Colombian on Soi Tree Town and had a 30 minute conversation in Spanish. I wanted him to grade me. He told me that he could understand everything I said. But that I need to work on my accent and pronunciation. I speak Spanish everyday in Pattaya. But I do not speak Thai.
I currently working on that. As I am certain developing my Thai would provide me with the same advantages that learning Spanish has in the Dominican Republic. Namely, more chemistry with Thai girls. In fact just last night I was in a Gentleman's Club in Pattaya (Something there is NOTHING like in Sosua).
I have heard there are places similar in Santo Domingo and Santiago. But they are for rick Dominicans in the know. I am neither rich or Dominican. But I digress.
While I was in the Gentleman's Club I asked the girls that were doing a threesome for me in the booth to help me with my Thai. They are thrilled to help me learn words. Repeated them to me all night. Thought me how to make a toast in Thai. Taught me the important words of the anatomy like, mouth, eyes, pussy and dick. Then when the Thai music came on the entire ambiance of the place changed. The Thai girls dancing have naked on the stage and tables all in the club were energized smiling at really getting into with their gyrations, twurking and using traditional Thai dance moves in a modern fashion. There is nothing like being with Thai girls when they are in their own culture. When they learned that I knew all of the choris of their favorite Thai songs they went crazy about it. I see a threesome in my future.
I understand the concept of Pattaya and Sosua being two different venues. But for pure fun and excitement they do not even compare. I prefer Pattaya. If you don't well I just don't give a fuck. If all you are looking for to fuck and have a good beach as a diversion Sosua is great. Nothing charming about that Mother Fucker. Mr E always used to say that people who preferred Sosua did from a lack of knowledge. I don't agree with his assessment even to this day. But if you haven't been too Sosua (as I have) and you haven't been to Pattaya as I have done then you have no basis to even make a comparison.
After over 10 years of living in the Dominican Republic. I prefer Thailand but I miss those lovely Latina bodies. But they can keep their attitudes.
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;2959943]Thank you! I don't like stick figure girls. Bone is for dog, meat is for man. Like you said: [I]But to each his own[/I].
[B]Your time; Your money; Your dick; Your call[/B]!
Most girls in Thailand don't have any ass. It is my dream when I find a Thai girl that has Latina body. Latinas have much better hardware than Asian girls on average. But the software of Asian girls more than makes up for it. Asian girls don't beg for money like latinas do. Latinas have personalities that are spicier than than a traditional Thai meal. But they also have some of the best bodies on this earth! Asian girls have soft and sweet personalities (in general). They make an effort to please you. They give [B]BBFS[/B] on almost a routine basis. They are straight forward about money for sex. And they accept open relationships.
[B]I hope you consider this comparison and contrast of Asian girls and Latina chicas to be a contribution to your Philippines forum[/B] If not, well then, I just don't give a fuck!
[B]How you like me now[/B]?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=DCups;2967229] So I'll go to Thailand or Indonesia instead in search of the big boobs. I don't care if they are bolt ONS.[/QUOTE]Still posted up Pattaya. Hit a brother up. I got just the spot for ya my man.
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;2967393]Still posted up Pattaya. Hit a brother up. I got just the spot for ya my man.[/QUOTE]Ill be in Patts late Feb, Sub. What places you talkin about. Thanks. Peace out.
[QUOTE=DCups;2967480]Ill be in Patts late Feb, Sub. What places you talkin about. Thanks. Peace out.[/QUOTE]I might have to roll out just about when you are arriving. Make sure to check out [U]Heaven Above[/U]. They have girls up in there that have what you like!
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2961839]I am off to Brazil next week, and after a couple of months will make my way north to Colombia and the DR. Then, I can make comparisons between Pattaya and Sosua.[/QUOTE][U]Disfruta Republica Dominicana[/U]
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2971543]I bought my ticket for Santo Domingo, and will bus it up to Sosua after a night's rest in SD. My plan is 10 days in Sosua, with a flight out of Puerto Plata (POP) to go back to the US for a few days. I am hoping that I won't get bored in Sosua, since everyone says its very small. At least I will be able to practice my Spanish.[/QUOTE]You will already have a leg up on other visitor because you arrive with [B]Spanish speaking skills[/B]. Sosua is a postage stamp on the envelope of mongering compared to [U]Pattaya[/U] but as others have pointed it out it has it's charm for some people.
Here are all the places I have eaten while in Sosua. I know you prefer pussy but you are own your own in that department. This is just regular food. [B]I recommend them all[/B]! You can find them all on Google Maps. There is also the Food Truck out on main drag a couple of steeps away from the Texaco. I don't know the nights they are there. Usually starting after 1900.
[U]Breakfast[/U]
Dolci e Sapori; Restaurant Wings and Waffle; Restaurante Schnitzel Paradise; Casa Coco; Alicia Beach Hotel Restaurant; Restaurante Captain Bailee.
[U]Snack[/U]
Fat Jesse's; La Casa de la empanada; Ottis Kaffe Bar.
[U]Lunch/Dinner[/U]
Restaurants Waterfront (Playa Alicia); Restaurante Rancho El Rico; Restaurante New Garden Hotel; Susan Cafe Pizzeria.
[U]Dominican Food[/U]
Accents Sosua Restaurant Bar and Lounge.
[U]Fresh Fruit Cart[/U]
Walk past Doici e Sabori on same side of street under shade tree.
[U]Late Night Food[/U]
Copa Cabana Bar Lounge.
[U]]E-sim[/U]
[URL]Gigsky.com[/URL]
Pussy is everywhere brother. You need no help finding it once you have wheels down. If you meet [I]Oakie[/I] tell him Hello, for me. He might even have some additional information for you:
[QUOTE=Oakie;2971040]I'm trying to get back to my relatively obscure puta pueblo DR, living among locals (real people with real lives).[/QUOTE]He posted this in the [B]Pattaya Reports[/B] thread. Not sure why?
[QUOTE=Oakie;2971040]But Sudsy keeps dropping my name here[/QUOTE]Who is Sudsy. My handle is [B]SubCmdr[/B].
References to you [I]Oakie[/I]: Where? In the [B]Pattaya Reports[/B] thread? Nah, that has not happened one single time. Enter the search function under the [B]Pattaya Reports[/B] thread and you will only find one post where [I]Oakie[/I] is giving [B]International Trickin[/B] advice to people who visit and live in Thailand specifically [U]Pattaya[/U]. A place he has not visited nor has plans to visit.
[U]References to Mongering Locations in SEA[/U]
[QUOTE=Oakie;2971430]No chinese Dollar Store cookie cutter clones and droids.. No need to impress bar owners, mamasans with your stack, by making it rain! No language proficiency test needed for a newbie to buy pussy![/QUOTE]As a personal favor [U]Explorer8939[/U] as a fellow [B]International Trick[/B] I would like your honest comparison of Pattaya, Thailand and Sosua, Dominican Republic. You and I will be one of the few that will be able to give an accurate comparison because of having experience in both places. You will have the opportunity to see the place with fresh eyes. [B]Something others clearly cannot do[/B]!
After three days in Sosua your will be [B]Ballin Like A Sousa Pro[/B]! ROTFLMAO!
[B]How you like me now[/B]?
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;2972082][U]Disfruta Republica Dominicana[/U]
You will already have a leg up on other visitors because you arrive with [B]Spanish speaking skills[/B]. Sosua is a postage stamp on the envelope of mongering compared to [U]Pattaya[/U] but as others have pointed it out it has it's charm for some people.
Here are all the places I have eaten while in Sosua.
I know you prefer pussy but you are own your own in that department. This is just regular food. [B]I recommend them all[/B]! You can find them all on Google Maps. There is also the Food Truck out on main drag a couple of steeps away from the Texaco. I don't know the nights they are there. Usually starting after 1900.
Pussy is everywhere brother. You need no help finding it once you have wheels down. If you meet [I]Oakie[/I] tell him Hello, for me. He might even have some additional information for you.
[U]References to Mongering Locations in SEA[/U]
As a personal favor [U]Explorer8939[/U] as a fellow [B]International Trick[/B] I would like your honest comparison of Pattaya, Thailand and Sosua, Dominican Republic. You and I will be one of the few that will be able to give an accurate comparison because of having experience in both places. You will have the opportunity to see the place with fresh eyes. [B]Something others clearly cannot do[/B]!
After three days in Sosua you will be [B]Ballin Like A Sousa Pro[/B]! ROTFLMAO!
[B]How you like me now[/B]?[/QUOTE]I don't live in Thailand. But I have been posted up here for a few months. I am studying Thai. Takes time to learn as it is a tonal language with five different ones. Your tone can change the meaning of word. I did not learn Spanish over night. There is one other poster to the Dominican Republic Threads that has taken to learn Thai. Nothing is impossible if you set your mind to it.
I go to the Open Air Brothel known as Sousa there to fuck prostitutes just like [U]Oakie[/U] does while he is living there and speaking Spanish to them.
Does anyone have any proof to dispute the fact that I own a business in the Dominican Republic? It is not located in Sosua. Maybe is why questions are being raised?
[B]Has [u]Oakie[/u] ever visited Thailand or Pattaya[/B]?
I just got my first fuck in for the New Year 2025 in Pattaya (UTC 20:00 December 31,2024). It is 0400 here and she just left after she coming four (count them 4) times and me blowing my splooge all up in that nasty thing she walks around with.
[QUOTE=BennieBen;2973922]Girls are asking US dollar or insanes amount like 6000 DOP. Wtf happenend to this country in the last decade? How did it went from 1500 dop for a fuck to 6 k?[/QUOTE]Personally I do not have to deal with asking prices of 6000 DOP when I visit the [U]Dominican Republic[/U].
[QUOTE=HornyStud1969;2981069]What are rates for Sousa girls? For an hour? For multiple? For all nighters? Thinking of going for the first time ever soon (just got my renewed passport) and want to go for a rendezvous. Although I plan to hit as many as possible, I've always dreamed of being able to slam a couple of hotties until the urge goes away. So what are rates?? Want to have a good idea of what I need to take to have a really good time![/QUOTE]I've got nothing for you about Sosua on the current prices for hiring prostitutes. But if you have not been to Thailand. I suggest Pattaya or CockBang. [B]1000 times better than Sosua[/B]. Better selection. Better prices. Better overall value.
[B]Enjoy[/B]
[QUOTE=Oakie;2983584]There are lots of Europeans here, and women of every shape, size, attitude and every color of the rainbow![/QUOTE]Lots of diversity in Pattaya also. [B]But you wouldn't know that as you have never stepped foot in Thailand[/B]. Seems there are a number of people with experience with Thailand that have also visited the Open Air Brothel of Sosua. It will be interesting to hear their comparison.
[QUOTE=Oakie;2983584]You won't need to butter up the mamasan[/QUOTE]It is a shame that you are so poor you cannot afford to do such things. [B]Straight Poverty Mentality[/B]. Mamasan is no more more a pimp than the owners of Bailies and Kings are pimps. You cannot have it both ways. But if you ever do decide to come to Pattaya I will show how you can enter and establishment and cut a deal with a girl directly and not buy a SINGLE LADY DRINK. [B]You don't know this because you have never been to Thailand[/B].
The girls that work in the many venues of Pattaya are Independent Contractors who choose to work there or they do not. Many are freelancers with no contract. You do not need to step into a venue nor purchase one single lady drink in order to hire a prostitute in Pattaya.
[QUOTE=Oakie;2983584]or buy 40 Lady Drinks to sit at a table and watch the passing parade![/QUOTE]If you want to sit a a table you are going to have to buy something. You act like Sosua does not have business that depend on tourists to frequent them in order survive.
You can take a walk in Pattaya in the early morning hours without worrying about getting jacked. You cannot do that in Sosua. The level of safety I feel in Pattaya far exceed the what I experienced in Sosua or other places in the Dominican Republic. The night life in Pattaya far exceeds the quality of the nightlife in Sosua.
[QUOTE=Oakie;2984975]He claims he lived there for 10 years[/QUOTE]No claims that I ever lived in Sosua. I lived in the Dominican Republic for 10 plus years. People know this. The internet never forgets. There are records are here in ISG written in black and white for anyone who want to search them.
[QUOTE=Oakie;2984975]keeps a residence there[/QUOTE]This is not true. I do not keep a residence in Sosua. [B]I keep residences in multiple locations in the southern part of the island[/B]. Not a claim. Those who doubt me are welcome to send me a PM and schedule and appointment for a tour of my business.
[QUOTE=Oakie;2984975]has 3 Wives" he supports there[/QUOTE]I do not have three wives in Sosua. [B]I have three long term relationships with Dominican Girls 5 - 12 years that live in various parts of the country[/B]. I've never made a claim of support. If I have then anyone who says I have needs to quote exactly what I said from my ISG posts. Otherwise it is just someone's opinion or interpretation of what I have or have not said.
[QUOTE=Oakie;2984975]has deep roots there,[/QUOTE]Not in Sosua. [B]In the Dominican Republic[/B]. That is true. It might be difficult of a person for a person who never really moved to the Dominican Republic who keeps a home in Canada and the UK to understand that. Individual that are [B]SexPats[/B] do not make any REAL contributions to the economy of the Dominican Republic beyond their tips to the moto guy Paco who delivers their empanadas. I've made major investments and have a legacy in the Dominican Republic that will last WAY beyond my lifetime.
[QUOTE=Oakie;2984975]claims he always has a good time there,[/QUOTE][B]When I goto Sosua I always have a great time[/B] I have a network. Individuals that refer me to girls. I hang out with my friend and enjoy the parts about Sosua that I enjoy. When I am not in Sosua it's all about work!
[QUOTE=Oakie;2984975]and has never been ripped off by a chica there.[/QUOTE]Never have! Never will! I speak Spanish. I believe that is important. Gets a lot of respect with the chicas. It is my suggestion that individuals who are visiting the Dominican Republic learn some basic Spanish. There are chias all over the country looking for opportunities. Speaking Spanish will get you access to them.
Just had another ISG Brother contact me via PM with questions about the Dominican Republic. The quote was: [I]Thank you for all the valuable information you have provided me[/I].
[B]You don't have to take my word for as to which place is better[/B] Just review the last to posts about Sosua from two of my fellow [B]International Tricks[/B]:
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2986135][b]My take on Sosua is that the locals are always trying to scam the tourists[/b].
My baseline is Pattaya, so seeing 25 ladies walking the streets looking for customers is not very exciting.
Also, the bars need better organization. As it is now, a lady can come in off the streets, buy a drink, and scout for customers. She has no relationship with the bar other than as customer. In Pattaya, most ladies are contractually employed by the bar, so if you have a problem with the lady, you can complain to the bar. Not so in Sosua.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=MwenByen;2986277]And in Cartagena it's 10 times worse especially when you visit the beach! It's best too to read report someone submit in order to look out for red flags for ripoffs. Also you'll never be able to catch an Uber in Sosua it's too small and nonprofitable. In Santo Domingo it's very easy to catch a Uber around town. If they try to mention pay me more than what's on the app I'll just flag them. In my opinion Sosua is the best place in Latin America to monger. [b]Thailand is one of the best countries in. This world to monger and party.[/b][/QUOTE][U]My personal experiences[/U]
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;2970279]My best days in [U]Republica Dominicana[/U] were my best days in the Dominican Republic. My best days in Thailand are my best days in Thailand. I am not the sort to engage in glory days comparisons. When I was in the Dominican Republic I had not discovered Thailand at the time. I have established deep roots in the Dominican Republic that are just not going to go away. That is why I will return. To tend to my roots and to hang out with the friends I made during my time there.
[B]The only thing that the Dominican Republic is superior on is beaches[/B] In all other areas that I find important for good living: [U]Colombia[/U] and [B]Thailand[/B] are far superior!
[B]Period. Full Stop[/B]!
That being said I would not change my time in the Dominican Republic at all. Nor do I feel like I wish I had of discovered [U]Colombia[/U] and [B]Thailand[/B] sooner. Everything occurs in it time it should based on the [b]manifest destiny[/b] laid out for me. I am good with with it![/QUOTE]
Yeah, There are a New guy in the office.
This is my first post.
Forgive me if it's not in the right place.
But after reading 9 years of adventures, lessons, and reflections from Mr. SubCmdr. I just couldn't stay silent.
First of all: thank you.
From the heart, thank you.
My first trip was back in 2016.
A crazy one. A solo adventure driven only by my love for women. All of them. Every flavor, every color.
I've been back to Hispaniola two more times. Three in total.
And let me tell you something: I had more success than I ever imagined.
Not just with women.
With myself. With that raw, powerful feeling of being exactly where I belonged.
Like a fish in water.
But I've got a confession.
I'll open my heart here.
Something was always missing.
Community.
The chance to share what I believe is the greatest hobby of all.
And listen: it's not about fucking.
It's about connecting.
Some key points that really hit me reading you guys:
1. Learn Spanish. It's my language, and a huge advantage.
2. Dive into the culture. Be one of them. Caution is smart, but kindness is always a virtue.
3. Be outgoing. If you like a girl, say it. Here it's easy. Treat her well. Don't be a jerk. And in no time, you'll be in her bed.
4. Yes, money matters. It always does. Here, poverty makes it even more obvious. But don't let your wallet be the only thing you bring to the table. Be smart.
5. And burn this into your mind: it's not about fucking. It's about connecting.
I'll say it again, so it sticks:
It's not about fucking. It's about connecting.
Thanks to all of you for sharing your experiences.
I no longer feel like a lone wolf.
We are men of action.
And men of action don't wait.
They jump.
Let's go get it.
It's not about fucking. It's about connecting.