Villach. LaVita. Don't think so.
Late last year there was newspaper and internet comment about a new club at Villach, La Vita, supposedly opening this summer.
Absolutely no activity on the rough ground that, I understand, was the intended site so I infer that the La Vita idea is probably La Morte.
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Laufhaus Villach. Anyone been there?
Just wondering if anyone has been to Laufhaus Villach. How was it? What is the cost? Any info is appreciated. Thanks!
Babylon Klagenfurt and Wellcum.
I am thinking of trying both these clubs on successive days. Is that possible / doable?
Also what's the rate per hour in Babylon Klagenfurt these days?
For Wellcum is it 60/30 or 70/30 and does that include BBBJ and kissing?
My first time in Andiamo in Villach, Tuesday at 18:00, end of June
Entry 69 euro, included in price are 3 alcoholic drinks.
Estimated number of girls: less than 10.
Almost no other guests (only 3 other cars on parking).
Big locker room with 200 lockers, with magnetic locks. However pretty dark here, so you cannot see exactly what's inside of your locker (sic! - has no one thought about that?
Club is pretty spacious, and given small number of girls, it makes impression of desolated.
Pretty decent garden, with a pool. Food was pretty good, with salads, deserts and fruits (however in GT Linz or Wellcum food is better).
In the main social room, at the bar, football game was on a display, however quality was sooo jerky that I was unable to watch it!
All girls were wearing some lingerie (ie. Not fully naked). Few of them talked to me, but I was not interested.
Only Sascha was interesting enough to session with. She worked in Germany before (World, LR). Young, 23 years old Romanian, pretty face, smooth skin, black hair.
I paid 80 euro (70 + EL, but she also rejected kissing, that normally I would expect to be included, supposedly because of corona, riiiiiiight. . .)
It was a good session, I had a satisfaction.
Club has good looking rooms with mirrors on the walls, including showers, and I liked them better than those in Wellcum. And supposedly during corona-pause they were renovated.
Final conclusion: having lively Wellcum just 15 minutes away by car, I cannot see many reasons to be here.
Logistics to Wellcum - Der größte Wellness FKK Sauna Club und Hotel in Österreich
Esteemed member of the Austrian part of ISG, Massimo Potente, recently said Wellcum probably had the best line-up among the FKK clubs in Austria right now. That statement has certainly raised some interest, and having recently visited I can assure the line-up was fantastic with plenty of good choices. Thanks Massimo! This club deserves a good logistics report.
[QUOTE=SaratogaX;2598666]Logistics of getting to this club is probably one of the worst things I've ever seen out there. The best option to me seems flying to Ljubljana and renting a car. And you'll still be left with the question of what else to do besides this club when you get there.[/QUOTE]Totally agree. The lack of an international airport in the neighbourhood is an obvious drawback for this club from an international perspective (Villach / Arnoldstein is is no Berlin, Frankfurt nor Vienna). Will the travel be worth it? This club is located close to the Italian border with mostly Italian guests. IMHO the Italians are lucky. If coming from Italy I would not go any further. The club is that good. If landing in Vienna, the decision is more difficult to make and depends on a number of variables (how deep is your pocket, how much time do you wish to spend on travel and the hobby, service demands, demands for things to do outside the club, and more). I will discuss this further in a later report.
[QUOTE=Zumboit;2599289]From my post and visit 2019. "I took a train from Venice to Villach, and another local from Villach to Arnoldstein. From there it was a 10 taxi to the club. There are also direct trains a few times a day from Udine direct to Arnoldstein, though being slow trains, its about the same as to which route is faster."[/QUOTE]Good advice. Villach has a train station which makes travel from Vienna, Linz, Salzburg, Klagenfurt, or from cities in Italy like Venice, and Udine, or Munich in Germany, fairly easy and comfortable. If you have the time to spend.
Once at Villach train station the travel is quite easy by regional train S4 to Arnoldstein. It takes around 20 mnts with departure once an hour from 6 am to 1 am (google for more details). From Arnoldstein just a 10 E cab (or a 40 mnts walk for the happy hiker).
[QUOTE=ChristianG;2599429]I think Wellcum have an agreement with a taxi company (red cars) with a fixed rate Villach-Wellcum for 30 euro.[/QUOTE]Thanks to Christian for this advice, which I already have taken advantage of.
I asked several of the taxi drivers at the Villach train station for quotes to Wellcum, and they all quoted 50- 60 euro one way, so a roundtrip adds up quite a bit for the budgetminded. The red taxis were nowhere to be seen, but with Christian's advice in mind I had done my homework:
You need to call the taxi company in advance to get the best price, and they will pick you up and take you to Wellcum for 30 E. The name of the taxi company is Express Taxi: tlph# +43 664 9465303/+43 664 1986777. Website: [URL]www.expesstaxi.at[/URL] (not working at the moment).
But seriously, I would think most of us would rent a car for a visit to Wellcum. It makes things so much easier.
The drinkers among us should stay at Wellcum's own hotel facilities with direct access to the club. It is reasonably priced and decent (I had a sneak peak). You are also allowed to invite girls to your room.
Andiamo Men's Club. Villach
This afternoon, my friend and I experienced one of the strangest things we've seen in a FKK.
One of the guests tried to escape from one of the hunting girls. She didn't give up and went after him. The guest went to another end of the bar area and signaled that he wanted to be alone.
But this girl did not give up and came across with a fierce temper. She was going to teach him not to reject a Princess like her.
The guest was not comfortable with the situation, he did not want to speak with this girl and signed it with a finger in front of his mouth. The girl then exploded, run at him and hit him in the head several times. The guest had some water in his glass and sent a few drops of cold shower back as a reflex. I would probably do the same.
Me and my buddy saw it all. The guest went to the administrator, with the angry girl close behind.
Finally some action in an otherwise boring club, LOL.
We followed in the changing room and from there heard the guest explain to the administrator that he was not interested in this girl and he only asked that this girl would stay away from him. BTW there was not many other guys to hang on to. The guest said he had returned some water as a reflex when he received several blows to his head. However, he regretted this.
The gorilla at the front desk said they had never had any problems with this girl (maybe she was his girlfriend? But the aggressiveness proved otherwise so we could smell trouble a long way.
The guest was obviously not approved by the administration. The girls in this club were apparently flawless and could do as they like.
We exchanged a few supportive words with the guest before we went back to the bar and started a conversation with him about other sauna clubs. He had a good overview.
But in the meantime, alliances were made and an obvious lie was presented to the gorilla.
After 5 minutes, the gorilla came to the bar and picked up the guest, bent his arm behind his back and shouted that he had 2 minutes to get out. If he wanted to fight with the girls, he could rather fight with him who was a professional fighter, he shouted. The guest followed without resistance.
The gorilla had the performance of his life and came across as a real hero. But it was all based on a lie. The guest had only marked with a little water after being treated very unfairly.
One of the girls had old th gorilla that the guest had been physical with her, but this was not true, We were there the whole time.
The gorilla was shown to be the girls' real protector regardless of what is true. But this way $$$ will be spent other places. So who protect who? With so few good looking girls and little guests, the gorilla soon will look for another work.
We saw it all and the guest seemed both well-mannered and polite, but obviously did not like being chased by worn-out girls.
Such a show of power without root in reality says something about the culture of this club. And how tightly knit the environment is.
We were at Wellcum yesterday and had a very good time. Lots of beautiful girls. Many men, but also more girls than we have ever seen in a sauna club. It is probably true that they have the best line-up now. At Andiamo Men's Club today, there weren't really any girls that we liked. The girls had seen better days and were very aggressive. Almost no guests.
We didn't dare to interfere, but left the club soon after this dram without going to the room with any girls.
Good food, nice premises, good swimming pool, but the girls are unfortunately not up to our preferred level. Most of this girls we would not even pick up for free. In relation to Wellcum, the level is not comparable. Everything is significantly better at Wellcum.
Such a gorilla and management supporting lying girls and throwing guests out like this says a lot about this club. We will not be back. But for those of you who don't mind sitting and chatting with aggressive girls who don't want to be contradicted, you have found your club.
Wellcum - Amendment to Logistics report
[QUOTE=Shark16;2603396]You need to call the taxi company in advance to get the best price, and they will pick you up and take you to Wellcum for 30 E. The name of the taxi company is Express Taxi: tlph# +43 664 9465303/+43 664 1986777. Website: [URL]www.expresstaxi.at[/URL] [/QUOTE]Inflation is here: The red taxis are now quoting 40 E from Linz to Wellcum. Still a bargain. Taxi by the meter will easily cost 60+E.
Taxi from Arnoldstein to Wellcum is 20 E, but there are no taxis available at Arnoldstein. A 30 mnts waiting time after calling a taxi must be expected. I do not recommend.
LU at Wellcum was excellent. Sessions still available from 70 E /30 with BBBJ included. Very little upsell IME. A Wellcum visit is highly recommended.
Wellcum report, Monday, middle of September, 14:30-21:30
My fifth time in Wellcum. Monday is slow day, but LU was still in range 35-40 (however according to daily schedule there were supposed to be more of them, exactly 50). And I think LU was much weaker than back in 2020 and 2021, when even on slow days (Sunday-Tuesday) LU was scheduled to be in range 70-80, and in reality it was very close to that! Surprisingly, some girls I met there were nowhere to be found in the schedule at all!
Food was as good as always. From breakfast to dinner, desserts, fruits, soups, everything. Only bad thing I find is that food is served 12-16 and 18-22, so if you arrive slightly after 16, you will not get food for next 2 hours.
Girls:
Kelly: arrogant! Ukrainian / Russian? No-go due to her attitude!
Hannah / Hana (missing on the schedule) (blond): 70 e covered BJ, but immediately offers package 120 e with BBBJ+CIM.
Lia: sweet face, slim girl with long brown hair.
Cassandra: blonde, I was with her before, this time no smile on her pretty face, 70 e but no DATY, got bad vibe about her this time.
Coco: sweet brunette, very sexy, I approached her, I was ready to take her immediately to the room. Then she almost speaks no English. But just enough to communicate that 30 min cost 120 e with her. I turned down her "generous" offer. Funny that later that day she nagged me 2 more times to go with her to room, but she never proposed any better offer! Stupid girl.
Narcissia (missing on the schedule): Sweet and petite, I was ready to take her to the room just because of her looks. Then I asked her standard question "What do you do in half an hour", she: "And how much you are going to pay me!?" No BBBJ in 70 e, for 100 with BBBJ e she said yes. But I already lost my sympathy for her.
Marisol (missing on the schedule): Very pretty face, brunette, tanned skin in front of the bar. She said 70 e /30 min, when asked for BBBJ: 100 e. But does not want DATY in that price, and is annoyed that I'm asking "too much questions", haha. And now the best: when I turned down her offer, she responded with loud "Well then FUUUUCK YOUUUU! " in front of other people. This must be a new Wellcum policy of respecting male guests? Well, I'm out.
There were few other girls I interacted with. Almost each girl had the same "tape": Where you from? What your name? You first time here? You alone? We go to room? At reception no one was checking my satisfaction with girls, as I anticipated already. They have those touch screens for supposedly giving your opinion, but I'm pretty sure giving such feedback is pointless and ignored. If they would be serious about service quality management, they would always ask in person. And by interacting with girls I got enough evidence to claim the management doesn't give a shit.
Out of my 4 previous visits in Wellcum, 2 visits were in 2020, and 2 in 2021. I had then a total 8 sessions with girls. Price was always 70 e with BBBJ, usually DATY was included. Some girls were also kissing in this price (light kissing). Back then I never had to negotiate anything. We just went to the room and had a satisfaction.
Back then I sessioned with Anisia, Anna MOL, Rosi ARG, Liv, Lidia, Otillia, Tessa, Cassandra. All sessions were good, even if some were too short for my liking.
Fast-forward to 2023: upselling, arrogance, bad vibe, resulting in no room.
Based on previously positive experience I planned originally to spend 3 days in Wellcum and 1 day in Andiamo, session with at least 2 girls a day, and spend around 1000 e.
In reality I spent only 1 day in Wellcum (skipped over Andiamo as no girl I was interested in there was working in that period), shortened my hotel stay by 2 days, and spent only 90 e (on entry ticket).
For me personally Wellcum is finished, despite it's good marketing. It became "just another place" infested with stupid, lazy and arrogant upselling Romanian prostitutes.
Driving here all the way, making hundreds of kilometers, doesn't have justification anymore.
Is Wellcum difficult to get to?
[QUOTE=Eryk9021;2857877]
Fast-forward to 2023: upselling, arrogance, bad vibe, resulting in no room.
Based on previously positive experience I planned originally to spend 3 days in Wellcum and 1 day in Andiamo, session with at least 2 girls a day, and spend around 1000 e.
In reality I spent only 1 day in Wellcum (skipped over Andiamo as no girl I was interested in there was working in that period), shortened my hotel stay by 2 days, and spent only 90 e (on entry ticket).
For me personally Wellcum is finished, despite it's good marketing. It became "just another place" infested with stupid, lazy and arrogant upselling Romanian prostitutes.
Driving here all the way, making hundreds of kilometers, doesn't have justification anymore.[/QUOTE]I've been considering a trip to Wellcum for a few years, but I have always bailed out by how difficult it appears to get there. My idea is to stay at the hotel for a few weeks, while working remotely during the daytime assuming the Internet is stable (I've done this before, it's works out great).
For someone who's okay taking busses / trains / taxis in Germany to get to FKK's, how would I even plan that? Is it just a taxi ride from the airport? Or do I take a train to the area from Frankfurt?
Or is it not worth it? Sounds like the experience isn't that too different from your average German FKK stuffed full of Romanians?
4 u Hotel cancelation policy
Does any one know the cancelation policy of 4 u hotel connected to Wellcum? I would like to book a room for 2-3 nights. However if my trip need to postpone, I need a option to cancel it.
I emailed the hotel. No one get back to me?
