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The life of a girl here. She meets a boy at age 15 or so, they have a baby or 2 and then he leaves. He gives her no child support or money of any kind. She is [b]poor [/b]from this point on. She moves in with mom or grandma. Most stay in small towns and never come out, but many do come out to hook. They don't consider themselves prostitutes. Not too many [u]speak English.[/u] The real ugly ones stay with old Dominican men. They are always trying to finish school, so they go at night. School is free but you need to buy uniforms. I had a girl for 14 months and discovered she had a Dominican Boyfriend as well. During our time we hung with her kids as well. Some work in stores but they earn [color=green]$150 [/color]a month. Its very easy to maintain a relationship or two here, but I don't think they all are faithful and who cares since we play around as well.
They will bring you home to meet everyone, she will cook for you and wash your clothes as well. I bought mine a cell phone. Many have cell phones here. There is [u]no monthly charge [/u]for them. They are playing a game just as we are playing a game. They will ask you to send them money via [b]Western Union,[/b] regularly. It is nice to arrive, go to their house and have a nice carefree vacation. I find that I like a selection when I am there.

[email]*******@Blackvoices.com[/email]

Maintaining the Harem can be a full time job. When you meet your first [color=purple]"Novia" [/color](Girlfriend} she will tell you if she catches you with another that you are done, but when when you break up because you met someone else, she still wants to be in the picture. She will always ask for Western Union, because someone is sick. The other Novia will want [color=purple]Dinero[/color] as well. (Money). Sometimes you will find one with e mail and she will e mail you about the [color=purple]Dinero [/color]that she needs. Number 2 can be worked around number 1 very easily, as can number 3,4,5. Let them all be number 2 without a real number 1 in the picture. One of my chicas said she hasn't worked in a month but[b] Fantasy[/b] knows her as well and saw her working last week. Its a fun game for all that play it. Forget about Western Union. You are wasting your time with that.
You think you found a trustworthy one, then post her picture so we can see if we know her. I am sure someone does.

While much of what you say is true, if your"novia" was originally a "working girl", that does not mean there are not trustworthy Dominicanas.

My current novia works six days a week at a resort as a bartender. She gets off of work at 5 and takes a 1 hour gua gua ride home. Then she goes to school 5 nights a week from 7-9:30.

She's a single mom. had her son when she was 19, and has been working hard to support him ever since. She has never asked for me to westren union her money. I am actually thinking of having her quit her job so she can study computers and english during the day. Thta would also make it easier for her to travel with me when I am down there. It would be worth the few bucks a month for me to be able to spend more time with her, and also better for her long term to learn english and computers.

I think that both ******* and prtyr2 have good points. You can meet a novia here and she can be a trustworthy individual and you can also meet someone that wants all your dinero. We are still dealing with the "Female of the Species" but all in all the DR experience is a good one and very reasonable on the pocket when you compare it to the prices you would pay for a NYC SW, for example. My advice is to judge each chica on the way that she treats you. If the GFE is happening then I dont see any problem with occassionally sending her money via Western Union. ******* you have to know that these women are hungry and if having 2 american novias helps them deal with the hand that life has dealt them--allow them that outlet.

Peace
WSJ3

She had a salon in Sebenta and was looking at space In Caberete when I bumbed into her and met her. she never worked in a bar, had 2 kids, (2 and 4) and split from their father because he drank too much. She was 22 years old. She had a few items of clothing and in the beginning was greatful for the few items I added to her wardrobe. We were together 14 months.
She went to school 2 nights a week and English school 3 days a week as well. She still asked for money every other week and have another Dominican Boyfriend on the side. I see these other girls with American Boyfriends as well and never have trouble getting over on them either. Party, point your girl out to me and I will get over. I never knew a guy whose lady never asked for Western Union. Never! In December I borrowed another American's girl for a few days while he returned to America. She still needed the extra cash. They are all greedy over there. Bar girls are easier, they make their own money and never call [b]The Bank of Jimmy[/b]. 6 years, 13 trips and now I understand the rules of the game. It takes time but the rules can be learned. This week alone 2 called for Dinero and 1 e mailed me. What a week it was. Can't wait to get back in three weeks. Need to build up the team.

going to La Romana in a few days with the family...any suggestions about a quick getaway? where is the closest action? how long of a taxi ride is it? please email info to VIAGRA_POWER@YAHOO.COM....thank you in advance....

Hey Fantasy

That is a suckers bet. I could give you my girls address and I am sure if you waved some money in her face she would give you a bbbj and still call me her amor when I next visited Sousa. This is a way of life down there. I think the sooner everyone excepts that "it is what it is" the sooner everyone can get down to the serious business of f****ing.

Thats just my opinion, I could be wrong :)

Peace
WSJ3

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Yknow *******

I think that I will start saving my pennies and join you in DR for XMAS, I am sure that I can find some young dominicana to help me bring in the holidays with a bang.

Peace
WSJ3

looks like i will be not the only one going then, so looks like it will be fun, but the 2 dates to bring in is hoping a minimum request.

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i will go start to look for the girls next sunday, but i might bring girls in from all over the country, got to drive a lot of km to visit thim all but whats the hack , when you can have all the fun for free, ( almost ), i dont now , will fly in from the netherlands, might fly direct ore go first visit my kids in orlando, but will see, got always special deals and upgrades.

Hey DR mongers......am almost positive i'll be going to Sosua in mid-october, but needed the voice of experience on some of the chicas. have talked to john at the sosua palace, and will be staying there. HERES THE DEAL: i love women with every look and a great body, but my buddy likes girls with more of the "spanish features". pointy noses, etc. (I'm from chicago, basically not looking like sammy sosa!!) are these available in sosua? the palace, after reading and checking out the website (thanks for that guys.)seems like a great place to stay and monger. i've found some round-trip on american from chicago to POP for around 600 and change.

so info please on:
1.)spanish looking chicas.
2.)good airfare deals.

If anyone will be down there in october, beers are on me.
-jstem33

******* I know there is a lot of truth to what you say, but not all Dominican women are bad girls. More so in the tourist areas as they have more contact with gringos etc.

Also ask yourself this question. How many guys hook up with a nice girl and promise her the world
profess their love etc all because they are trying for a freebie? How many times does a girl get taken like that before she decides to play games as well. No girl wakes up one day and says, today I'm a *****. it is usually a gradual progression and often sped along by guys like us.

Just so you know, I'm not some bozo that has no clue about the DR. I have gone out with all types and even married one. In 4 years I have been there over 25 times. I will be there twice this month.I have seen all types of scams going on in both directions.

BTW, at this point in my life I would almost prefer that you could get over on my GF. I could use some more time for "freedom". It looks like I'll be doing a fair bit of traveling in the next few months and wouldn't mind having a clearer concience;-) If you are willing to put up some cash, I'll take the suckers bet. I also promise no hard feelings if I were to lose. I also wouldn't bet unless I was sure.

Lots of guys say they been there x amount of times. My 13 trips average 9 days, while others go for 3 days. How many days per trip? Thanks but I will find her on my own, LOL.

I think they get spoiled fast as well, first you buy them a pair of pants in the beginning and 6 months later they want the store.I see that you are correct as well since many promise them the world and just bang them. I need a new girl every third trip to keep them fresh and new. I have maybe 100 trips left till death do we part. Now I get calls for sick grandma's as well. Lets build a hospital, and we will get so many chicas in this house of pain.

Look for my responses here, rather than additional posts. By the way; 14 more days till I start my 2 week [b]fest[/b].

[color=red]I see we have a nice group of guys posting here. Hope to meet all of you one trip or another.Including Prtry2[/color]

I have been reading about the other countries and it seems that Dominican Chicas are everywhere. They make great hookers I guess.

Hello,

I just returned from a trip to an all inclusive in Punta Cana, the greatest place I have ever been, the most beautiful women i have ever seen. I took my parents for their anniversary and couldn't get away to meet some chicas. I became amigos with a dominican named David who offered to take me on his moped to "a disco where the girls take off their clothes, and will do more if you pay them", but once again i couldnt really get away from my parents, they wanted to spend time and what not. I did however have a romantic connection with a chica who was a waitress in the resort and after a few days we ended up having some of the best sex of my life.

I plan on returning to the same hotel/resort (Iberostar Bavaro) in August, I have a special discount their and have also made amigos with many of the resort employees, and I need some information. Has any one ever had any luck in Punta Cana or the near by large city of Higuey? Higuey is a large city and so i'm guessing there must be some chicas here.

Has anyone ever been to these "Discos where girls take off their clothes and.." anywhere in the area?

If there are no chicas in the area does anyone have a recomendation on a cheap taxi to Santo Domingo or Boca Chica, the ones i seen listed in the hotel wanted $200 USD to go to Santo Domingo. If i do have to leave punta cana/ higuey which is a better town Santo Domingo or Boca Chica.

One more question can your recomend any good hotels in Santo Domingo or Boca Chica that allow girls and have good one night rates, and their location.

I relize I am askin for alot and I truly appriciate any information any of you gentleman can give me.

Gracias

ANY INFO ON THE ACTION IN LA ROMANA WOULD BE APPRECIATED....HOW MUCH IS THE TAXI RIDE TO THE CLOSEST ACTION?

Hey ricrok

I will try to answer your questions here on the posts

1) I dont think a bus ride will cost you more than $32US

******* mentioned to me that the cost is really 5 US so I am editing this post Thanks Jim

2) I have had experience in Boca Chica, Santo Domingo and Sousa
it depends on what you are looking for in the main cities Santo
Domingo and Puerta Plata this is where the creme of the crop are
located, but if you want a country gal for the GFE try the little
puebloes like Santiago or Charimigo (pls forgive the spelling)

3) I have a girlfriend in Sousa and after just meeting her in a club
15 minutes later I got a bbbj and she took the money shot no problema

4) You can have whatever your sick greasy heart desires if your
assets are in order--can you speak fluent spanish if not ask
one of the locals to introduce you to some women that will
swing that way--it is very easy trust me I have done in several
times in Boca Chica--the threesome thing gets old I like to
really get my freak on with just one hot dominicana

5) SW in DR are a f***kin waste of time and space trust me
they rush you to cum fast and then they are off to the races
to get the next guy. Your best bet is to get a regular gal
that just is trying to make ends meet and is willing to give
you the GFE at a reasonable price.

I hope that this information help you ricrok

Peace
WSJ3

Just a comment to the post of WSJ3 regarding point 2:
Santiago is not "a little pueblo" It is the second largest city in DR.
And Charamicos is actually a part of Sosua.

Hey Vagabond

Consider my comments about Santiago being a little pueblo poetic license, however, Vagabond is correct in fact I believe that a new airport was built recently in Santiago.

Enjoy
WSJ3

Hey WSJ3
Anyway, the most important thing is that we have a great time down there, and so we have.

Yknow Vagabond

I couldnt agree with you more. This place makes me feel more alive and soo happy to be a man I get emotional when it is time to leave my bbbj giving chica behind and come back to the states to deal with these american women that have no clue regarding how they should treat a man.

Peace
WSJ3

For anyone that has been to both Remmington Palace in Santo Domingo and Passions in Santiago. I posted this already in Santo Domingo. Any info would be appreciated.

I have been to RP in SD and luved it....I liked the club like atmoshpere and the selection of girls there was awesom....I personally like lighter skin and younger (18-25) girls.....that look like JLO, Penelope Cruz, ...etc..you get the picture.....

My question is how does Passions compare to RP? I have heard there are like 100 beauties at Passion...which is more than RP. How is the quality of girls compared to RP? As far as looks and attitude and price?

Any info would be nice....in addition what hotels in Santiago allows girls?

Thanks for all the help!

A few guys asked me about this.

2 years ago I sponsered my first kid in DR. I met him as well. Last year I took on a second in Santo Domingo.

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$15 a month, and it is tax deductible. It gets your kid school uniforms and medical visits.

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A couple of week ago I went to DR with a fruend
to bang some hoes and even though i got plenty,
is it just me or have the putas raised their prices from last year
and also where are all the white girls I don't mean to be racist
but a man has his taste in meat, if anybody has information on this topics post up.

I been checking out websites for fellow hobbysts at [url]WWW.adultvacations.com[/url] and I like many that travel while in the military enjoy savoring the oveseas vagina. I have been traveling to DR for many years and as I browse through the site I realize I have no idea what the fuck they are talking about, ex. I was browsing through the singles packages and looked at the viking villa package in Puerto Plata, now I haven't been there but I have gone to DR enough times that I would have heard about them by now so who are they, are they just a scam or if they are for real are they worth the money for 3000-5000 USD I can have a fine ass vegas strippers licking me and banging me for a week In DR I could probably fuck half the hoes in Puerto Plata. If anybody has an opinion on these "Tour packages" post up and let your voice be heard.

Yo FANTASY I've seen your post on plenty of countries hav you heard of any LEGITIMATE tours such as the ones in Germany
FKK tours or Amsterdam I've been to thoseand they are relatively inexspensive when you consider it's europe but in central
and caribea america they all trying to rip you off somehow.
Help plese

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Hispaniola is a tropical island over 400 miles long and 180 wide. Eight million people live in the Republic, many of them poor as hell. However things are not as cheap as I expected - modest hotel is $40 a night, a beer is $2.50 and a meal a $5. For a room with an A-C and cable TV expect to pay around $60. The local areas are cheaper. A true bargain are the local "goa-goa" minibuses. You can travel on these for next to nothing and they are used mainly by the locals. The catch is they will cram up to 19 people into this vehicle (which is a japanese van - Mitsubishi or Toyota), so it is not always comfortable. But it can be a lot of fun since you get closer to the locals who seem to be generally fun loving friendly people with a quick smile. And they all love their merengue and chapata music. Merengue is this superfast latino dance music they play everywhere. It just gets you going and you have to start moving. So on a goa-goa minibus the driver cranks-up the radio and senoritas sing along the latest hits, somebody will pass around a bottle of Presidente and the senorita next to you may just have so little space that she is nearly sitting in your lap (or it can be a stinky old guy, hehe) and the van is cruising through the bright tropical day. They drive like maniacs and the goa-goas seem to be the worst, trying to make more money. Venturing into the countryside you will see a picturesque hilly country, people living in shacks, pigs running in the backyards, a guy wahsing his motorcycle in a river… Houses are often painted in loud colours, they just love that and it looks great. In the small towns you will see these little tavernas, many of them just shacks with a roof from banana leafs and a pool table inside, guys sipping Presidente or rum and just sitting around, all day long. Unemployment was said to be 14% in 2000, but I suspect it may be more than that now. Lot of people have jobs which pay next to nothing. Looks like they do not have much foresight in doing things and they will sacrify future gain for immediate profit. That attitude includes ripping off the foreigners they depend on, plundering the land and the sea. Littering is another problem they throw away anything/anytime/anywhere and it shows.

The climate, the trade winds and temperatures are similar to Hawaii.

Yeah, driving. They just love to pass. The roads usually have no dividing lines, so it's all up to your imagination. The passing guy will point his vehicle into oncoming traffic to make it obvious what his intentions are and then, just as your whole life flashes in front of your eyes, they swerve back into their lane. I approach it like skydiving - do not look in front of you if you are a passenger in a car, just like when jumping off the plane you do not look down on the ground, because you would get too scared to jump.

The tourists I met on the north shore were mostly Europeans: mainly Germans, some English, Dutch, French, Swiss etc. Some Americans. The hotel owner told me that they are now getting more Americans than before and fewer Germans, he thought the dwindling German economy was to blame. It is actually surprising how few Americans there are considering the vicinity of the mainland.

Crime - the country is a little seedy but I did not really feel threatened. They are actually quite nice. Violent crime is not uncommon, though. One of the girls I long-timed did take some money from my wallet when I was sleeping.

It is hard to find a public phone that would work. Internet cafes are not a problem, cost is $1/minute.

Getting cash from ATM's is usually not a problem. About every second will work.
Money exchange booths are easy to find, although I would not recommned bringing large amounts of cash. Traveler's checks are OK. In the future I will use mainly ATM's.

Bring your own sunscreen and surf-wax, otherwise expect to pay more than twice the US price. In general - you need to know the prices. They will rip you off in a heartbeat, especailly the taxis and girls. Bargaining is a must. Need to speak some spanish.

At the airport do not let anybody touch your baggage when exiting the building.
A common trick - a self invited guy will carry your baggage for you for a few yards and then charge you ridiculous money for the service.

Drink only bottled water. Or beer. The local brew is called Presidente. It has 6% alcohol, so does the imported Heineken. Will get you a buzz in a hurry. Local rum is cheap and reportedly of excellent quality. That would be my two cents.

JUST RETURNED FROM SOSUA MY 20TH TIME. I KNOW EVERYTHING ABOUT DOMINICAN REPUBLIC. THE GIRLS ARE NICE AND FRIENDLY. THEY ARE ALSO CHEAP OR FREE. THE PROBLEM IS THE FAT WHITE GUYS ARE SPOILING THEM BUY GIVING THEM A $100 DOLLARS. $30 DOLLARS IS WELL SUFFICIENT. I KNOW ALL THE ROPES. ASK ME QUESTIONS BECAUSE ANYONE ELSE WHO KNOWS WONT TELL YOU THE SECRETS ON HOW TO GET THE GIRLS FOR FREE OR LITTLE OF NOTHING.



I WILL BE IN SOSUA THIS WEEK.

For Free, first you need to be going there a few times for that. A newbi going for the first time, getting it for free, unless he speaks Spanish, will never happen. Why don't you give up all your special spots so they will get ruined while you are at it.
You are right about the 500 peso maximum except when you are after some other tourists' chica, that might be extra. HeHe.
We who hang at the Palace as a group always try to keep it as low as possible.

Welcome to the board.

Hey Mariederrick.....you are absolutely right. I have alot of spanish friends that are dominican and also friends that have been to DR. Rarely do you have to pay for any over there. Yes it is true that people ruin things. All in all there will be desperate people that haven't had sex in the longest time offer as much as possible just to try to get some. I mean guys need to chill. Yes our American dollars do talk but you really don't need much. Just tell all the girlsd you meet there that you want to marry them and bring them back the the States. That alone will get you azz if you know what I mean. The girls there are so desperate to leave the country then you are in having sex. If you take my advice and my friends advice you will have no problem getting any or any guy for that matter. I think the oly problem in DR is that the resorts don't let you bing in dominicanas or locals to our room. They let you buy a day pass and have them come into the resort area but to the room is gonna be rough. Thats why yeah you need to stay at some of the low budget hotels there but the other problem with these low budget hotels is that they are surrounded by prostitutes looking for the American dollar and many of the guys running the hotel allow you to bring these females in and they can stay there with you but you have to understand that most of the people running the hotel are supplying the women. So its a Catch-22 situation. What do you do? Well you have a few options:

1. Stay at a nice resort pay for the day pass and try to tip one of the guys there to let you bring the girl back to your room. Trust me money does talk. For $20 you will see hoe fast a dominicano will get 5 hot dominican females delivered to you in like 30 minutes. Whether or not you pay them is up to you. Yeah $30 to pay her sounds reasonable for the night. Other then that i don't know. If some guy is giving a girl there $100 then they seriously have issues.

2. If you stay at a resort and they don't let the females back to your room, there are always dominicanas wandering outside the resort areas and on the beach or go into another city and then if you like her alot have her stay with you in the resort for an extra charge. Most of the females there are so poor that if you told her you were gonna have her stay with you in the resort it is like you are her angel from Heaven. Give her a few bucks and she will be more then happy.

3. Another option is you can stay at a resort and take her to the hourly hotels which is a waste because you probably want to stay with ehr the whole night and you want to be protected. If you don't know the area it may not be safe.

4. Other options is that you can stay at places like FantasyIsland and pay like $45 a night to stay there which is cheap compared to the resort places but you have to realize the girls there are out to make a buck on you. Then my theory of trying to pull off the marriage thing won't really work because they will just go to another guy staying there and make the money off of him. I looked into the FantasyIsland place and they wanted $45 a night to stay there and then they said they supply the females. But they also said that the females cost $45 an hour. So I think this is a rip off. You can get alot beter then that wherever you go in DR. But you are also faced with if you do not know where to go you may be forced to pay this price if you have no other options.

5. If you loking for the model-types, I have a few cities for you to look into. What I mean by model-types. I am saying like Jennifer Lopez types. You should go to places like Santiago, La Vega, Cotui, San Francisco. I don't know it much be something with the air or the sun but these women are hotttttt. Most of these women are light skinned females and many are not looking for money either. Although some is greatly appreciated. Alot of the dominicanas here are good females, what I mean by that is wifey material. For sure you can find a hot female here and bring her back to the States. Just think about you walking into a club, a bar, the store, a restaurant with you new dominican wife and she looks like Jennifer Lopez and has the body to go with the face. Isn't that what we all want? Well if you just looking for sex you may find it here but I only suggest these plces for wifey material. Because in these areas there are an abundance of women and lack of men. So it isn't uncommon for 5 females to all approach you at once and want you.\

I hope this information is helpful to all of you and Good Luck.

Hi all,

I'm new to this forum and going to Pureto Plata next week. I'll be staying at Karisma Hacienda Tropical & Suites. This is the 1st time to DR for me. I hope you can help me with the following questions:

1. Currency - Should I use US$ or Pesso?
2. Can I bring girls to this hotel and stay overnight?
3. Can I somehow get a girl to stay with me for the whole trip as an escort/gf/translator? How much would it cost? (or have a different one each day?)
4. Would the hotel give me any problems?


Thanks in advance for your help!

abc123

abc,

you get better deals using pesos than dollars.

If your hotel is an all inclusive, you can not bring anybody.

possibilities are endless in Dominican Republic about getting a girl.

Thanks, Boricuaonline....

I've just checked exchangerate.com, USD$1 = 17.74942 Pesos...

I was reading some posts here and I'm not sure if they were referring to USD or Peso...Could someone please confirm? I'll be staying there for one week, how much should I take with me? (Mind you, I don't have a lot of cash...this trip is on CC for now). I was also told not to use CC at all.

Yes, my package is all-inclusive........does anyone know if I can still get the ladies inside (at least to the room)? Is there a "day-pass" I can buy for her? How much would it cost (in what currency)?

I hope I have something exciting to report when I return....just keep my fingers crossed.


Thanks.

abc123

hey abc123......

I am in the same boat with you man. I been calling all inclusive places in puerta plata and they all said the same thing. you can get a daypass for 450 pesos which i s like $25 US. But that daypas only allows them into the resort area but not up into the room.. Thats what I still can't understand. If you are in the US and get a hotel room they let you bring anyone in. You would tink a 3rd world country would let you do it too. Even if it cost you $25 a night or something. Youy are not asking for her to eat there but to stay with you. Its a complete joke. But I am sure we will find ways around it man. Throw the doorman or belhop or whoever there $5 to look the other way. I am sure guys do it all the time. Its a 3rd world country. The US dollar talks.

hey fantasy......

I'm not dissing on that place. I was referring to the fantasy island adventures place. No I have been to it but I asked people about it. I looked into Sosua Palace and yeah the place is hott. Here is what I think.


Positive: I think its great that you can have females around you all the time in the resort is awesome. Ok so you pay like 40-50US a night to stay at sosua palace. That in itself is cheap and John lets you bring in females too which is great. You can meet single guys too looking to get laid as well.

Negative: The DR is a 3rd world country. The girls there are dying to get out. To meet an American that will bring them back to the States they will fall head over heels. So yerah you can bring a chica back to the hotel and pay her alot les then what the females are charging at the sosua palace. These females want like $40 an hour or per bust. In DR you can have a chica for all day and night for that price or even less. The sosua palace makes their money off of guys coming their and having sex with the girls. Yhey don't just live off of your $40-$50 a night. If every guy that went there brought their own girls and hung out with them at the hotel all throughout their stay then thier would be no need for the female services at the hotel and probably the hotel would not make as much money. If you go to a resort you probably can not bring in the girls to your room but you can probably find a hot chica that may not even chargew you. So you can give her like crayons, pencils, notebooks for her kids or even buy her something nice in return for the sex. There are so many females in DR that you really don't need to pay high prices like $40 for a bust. Also the competiion in the sosua palace is alot greater and its all about who is gonna pay the girl the more money. Just think about it you are a good looking guy and gonna go to sosua palce and there is a fat old guy going there too that has money and doesn't get any sex in the States that will outpay you for the girl you want.

I'm not knocking the place but I just think that you can do alot better in the country for alot cheaper. Its not hard to find a girl in DR. The bigges tproblem is where are you going to stay that will allow her to stay with you? Quite frankly, my trip to DR this time is a lil different. I am not into looking to sharing the same girl some far guy just fiucked the night before. I am looking for a Dominican model that I can bring back to the States. It seems like the girls at sosua palce have one thing in mind and that is $$$. There are alot of girls in DR that are not about that. Go to a resort in Puerta Plata and you will find some good females and the partying is intense. You may even find one you can hold onto for a long period of time.

The biggest question we all have is where you gonna stay?

Well I will back up Fantasy all the way. When you pay $25 to get a chica in your room, you are paying. When you give her books for her kids you are paying. They had their good looking boys and thats why they are dirt poor. I see, you lie to them, then leave them behind. I wonder how many kids you have in DR. You seem like a Man with wisdom. You have 5 posts here and are an expert. We old farts number in the Thousands and have a great time hanging out. So you are saying that any guy that arrives there should b e able to get a "FREE" chica? You need to speak spanish and be able to get around.

When you marry her and return to the USA, she will either leave you (99% Marriages Fail) or get as big as a house. Happy hunting.

I have been there 15 times and I get chicas for $20-$30 for the whole night. I pay for their food which we all do. Sometimes I buy her some gifts. Everyone spends money one way or another.

[b]ABC[/b]
There will be 10 of us at the Palace in Sousa Oct 16-23.
Lots of chicas.

het Jimmy:

well i think all of you on this site have convinced me that Sosua Palace is the place to go. Yes I do speak spanish. So let me know who is gonna be there from October 27th to November 6th????

[color=blue] Hey Jimmy

As usually you are the one giving the sagely wisdom on the board. I say let us just look at DR for what it is a place where quid pro quo is in full effect. A decent guy like you or I can have hot 20 something chicas and the chicas get to have $$$ for their familys etc. Dont get it twisted. It is what it is. That being said. I dont mind sharing some DR pussy with you bud--[b]as long as I get to go first[/b]

LOL

Peace
WSJ3[/color]

hey Fantasy.....

You know that when I go to DR there are gonna be so many chicas there. No I really don't need to go the the palace but its one of the few that allow you to bring back chicas. I'm a 22 year old and really don't need to pay for the sex there after hearing so many stories from my latino friends (dominican). Honestly I don't knock what you guys do. It just sounds like it is an old mans place to buy females that can't get any in the States, Canada, or Europe.

Sure whichever way you look at it in life we all are going to pay for the sex so way or another. If you are married she will get you and have half when she leaves. If you are salick you sign a pre-nup with her. My whole object is this. I go and get a dominicana from DR and bring her back to the States. You know she will probably leave you after 2 years anyways. So I say you go there and marry them and do them real good while they are back in America. After a 1 1/2 the sex will probably be worn out so you bring her back to Immigration and tell them to deport her because she is not pleasing you like she did since day one and the marriage is not working out. So before she gets her citizenship just send her back.

I figure you do this every year and a half. This way you get to bang her all day and night while she is with you instead of paying for it all the time. So then in a year and a half from now I will bring back a new bride.

Fantasy we are all alike and all want sex. If you can find a cheaper route to it then why not we try it.

Good luck man.

PZ,

You get one chance to import a wife and then you are denied. If you get it free why are you leaving the USA and why are you even on this board? You seem young and dumb. We would all be getting married for a year or so and then sending them back. Buying a wife is illegal and can land you in jail, but I am an old fart that has to pay. The wife gets half of everything going forward as well and child support. You are on the road to ruins. Good Luck!

Hey PZ you obviously have no fucking idea what you are talking about. When you get off of the formula and switch to whole milk maybe you will learn a thing or two. You are a 22 year old rookie who hasn't the slightest idea of what you are saying. Remember there is a whole army of us and if you gang up on one you will get attacked by all.

Gifts........

I heard I should bring coloring books, crayons, notebooks, and pencils for the children. Does anyone know how many of these I am supposed to bring? People have been telling me that I must bring these things and it is mandatory. Well how many girls staying at the palace need these things so I know ahead of time how many I should buy this weekend?

pzblaze

Why do you have to spend so much money in crayons, coloring books etc. when you can get free napkins at a local restaurant and give it to the poor children. they are going to be the happiest children in the world!

Ez blake: wow!..you mean to tell me all i have to do is bring a few coloring books and crayons, and speak a few words of spanish; and i will then be able to have sex with any beautiful Dominican girl i want to for free!..Thanks a lot!..I guess there's no need for me to take the advice of sage vets like Jimmy DR and Fantasy, when a 12, i mean 22 year old Bozo like you is giving out all his secrets.

hey gpiper......

how bout this.lets see the quality of women i get in the DR and the quality of women you get. The difference between me and you is that I don't have to pay for it. The other thing is who the hell wants a used woman that all of you are sharing at the palace. Damn you herb. I think you need to stay at the palace because thats the only way you are gonna get some in DR is by paying for it.

You know all the chicas you get have kids, therefore making them used.
Why do you buy a ticket when a stud like you can stay in the USA and get it free or are you really a loser there as well.

Bottom line is SHOW us the PICTURES! or shut up!

I just posted more pictures from my friends trip. His handle is K11


[url]Http://Myweb.ecomplanet.com/BOMS8951[/url]

Hey Jimmy just think of all of the beautiful women we could have had if we had kept all the toys we threw away as kids. I feel like such a fool now that I know all I needed was to buy a few crayons. We could probably have 10's for a can of PLAY-DOUGH or a SLINKY.

is there an area on marajauna use in the dr?
i wanna know if i can just walk into a coffee shop buy some blunts sit on the beach smoke and read a book in public no problem. also other info on what you can and cannot do in dr i was looking for an area with this info on dr but havent found it yet.

re: insatiable

dr isn't an aficionados destination... it's not amsterdam or ja.

you'll be propositioned but beware most who propose are probably on the doubletake.

costs are also prohibitive and i've heard quality is poor.

furthermore if you're caught in possession be prepared for a few weeks in jail b4 your court date because there's no bail.

it really isn't worth it but if you go for it be careful and keep it to yourself. chicas talk so keep it away from them too.

hey,
just been to DR. Very nice to pick up girls around, no pay!

BUT, ALL girls from DR have hairs on their faces! Some "beards" some "mustaches"...
men I can't concentrate with that!!!!

Have you had any without hairy face?

Thats why you got them without paying. I have not seen any girls in the DR with hair on their faces. Stop looking for your women in the caves.

nji909:

Are you sure these were GIRLS?

Some TVs can look okay (even if you spot some facial hair) until you get their pants off.

Then you've got some disappointment, especially if you've spent your valuable time and drinks on them.

I've been in DR (unfortunately with a GF), but was still given a come-on by some of the locals. I don't recall seeing any with hairy faces, though.

i am looking to rent a house for a week close to the beach? Does anyone have any suggetions? I would prefer to be on the Southern Coast. I am looking for an area where there are places to eat, mucha chicas and a nice beach. Do not suggest Boca Chica been there too many times. Does not have to be a major tourist area or commercialized either. I would prefer if it wasn't.

I see quite a few posts asking for information about, among other things, costs of girls at Remingtons, additional advice about accommodation and other spas in Santo Domingo. You would be well advised to contact Mr. Particular at mrparticular02@yahoo.com
We run a complete tour service in the capital, and make it a point to keep up on all the latest developments, also putting together web sites for spas, including www.spamichelle.com and www.spasuenoreal.com
We highly recommend getting away from the usual tourist destination of someplace like Remingtons and exploring the hidden-away spas that we have discovered. Forget Boca Chica, except for a day at the beach. We have at least 15 stops we can take you on in the capital alone, to give you a more adventurous, but safe, experience. Our tour guide is a wealth of information, an American who has lived in the DR for eight years and wants to see you make the most of your visit. Some of our WSG members have already used our services and will attest to the quality. Even ex-pats living in the capital, who you would think would know their way around and not need such a service, are regular customers. Mr. Particular can tell you more. Hope to hear from any of you soon.

mr. Particular: instead of making us give you our email so you can solicit us further and charge us an 'exorbitant tour fee'; why don't you just post all of your experienced monger tips for free, just like fellow forumists do!?

Mr Particular = Gregorio? = Bargain Basement Joe?

It sure sounds like ya. We ran into eachother a few times in Boca. I think you were there at Darren's when that big dude Mike from Boston wanted to fight me. Darren still thanks me every time I visit for not kickin the guys ass and trashing the place in the process!

Actually last time at Portofino's I saw big Mike. He would never remember me, and seems to have cleaned up his act quite a bit. He was drinking beer but wasn't trashed and beligerent.

You still involved with Spa Michelle? I have had a few beers there, but haven't partaken in their service. It appears that Carolina from Mona Lisa fame is there. Michelle is a cool girl and cute as well.

Maybe I'll run into you down there some time. I'm going down december 3rd and returning january 27th. That should be some trip.

Hi prtyr2. You are correct, sir! Our Mr. Particular service does several things, besides the informed tours to out of the way spots, plus into the heart of the 'real' DR. Slowly putting together an online guide to male entertainment spas, with the first two being:
www.spamichelle.com
www.suenoreal.com
Would be great to run into you again when you are here for your extended trip. The driver for Mr. Particular is an American who has lived here for eight years and is a wealth of information. I personally live and work in the Alps of the Caribbean, or Jarabacoa, and am back and forth to Santo Domingo on a weekly basis. You should coordinate with Mr. Particular at mrparticular02@yahoo.com

Mybe I'll run into you ate Michelle or Suenos real. I don't really get to those places much. If I am bored or need to wait for my girlfriend while she is at the salon or at her computer class, I sometimes stop by and have a beer. Her computer school is literally a block away from mona lisa.

I just have a few beers, buy some for the
chicas and chill. Haven't actually gotten a massage in a long time. Even then it was rare.

If they had Internet Flash and a WAP at Spa Michelle or Suenos real they would attract more customers

I know DSL is available in Gazcue where the massage places are located.

Think about it, I could check my email at an internet cafe with crappy dial up, using crappy machines or with DSL on
my laptop while drinking beer and hanging with the chicas enjoying the "show".

Heck if I didn't have DSL in my apartment I'd be there every day. If ya ever need to upload or FTP large amounts of files, let me know, I've got broadband, nice computers etc etc etc.

prtyr2@yahoo.com

After reading these posts for the last few months, I have to go to the DR and experience it for myself. *******, you should be a DR tourism dept. employee for all the reports you give. I'm a closet mongerer and I want to find somebody to go down with, or hang out with. A partners in crime kind of thing. I live in NY and I have vacation for these weeks: Feb 15-23 and April 17-27. Are their any fests around these dates?

maxicutioner@hotmail.com put DR trip as the subject

Wondering if someone has combined the two most hotest spots in the Caribbean in one trip. Rep. Dominican & Cuba.

Gpiper, since Mr. Particular didn't take you up on your generous offer to provide free information about Miami, can I take you up on that offer? This is not a joke. I visit Miami a few times a year, and would like to know more about the scene there. E-mail me if you like: username at hotmail.

Ivestors wanted in Sosua disco
the owner of Tucan disco in down town sosua is searching for the right
person to rent the disco,it can be run like a regular disco or a set up like
elbohem in puerta plata.it is a turn key operation and the owner is a well
respected bussines man in sosua and can make sure things run smooth.with the
right promotion sosua could be the next costa rica.serios inquiories only
please contact john at [email]thepalacesosua1@hotmail.com[/email]


[red] Its funny how many mongers have asked me how to get into business here, so here is one way[/red]

Hi Guys,

I'm new to the board and have been looking around to gather info for a trip to the DR I am planning to take this Spring. There has been plenty of great info here on places and prices as regards the delectable chicas. Thanks to all who posted such useful information.

I would also like to whet my other appetites for pleasure while I am in the DR. Can anybody post info on recreational pharmaceuticals? Availability, pricing, quality, who NOT to deal with and who, in very general terms, can you deal with on such matters? What is local law enforcement's attitude on purchase and usage? What are the penalties one would face if bagged holding?

Also, can anybody post the contact info of a good doctor who speaks English? I'd like to have that in my wallet as a just in case kind of thing (especially after reading *******'s report as regards his recent forays with medical assistance). Also, as I like to "Be Prepared" as I was taught in the Boy Scouts can anyone post the contact info for a good English speaking criminal attorney in the DR?

How about Tour Guides? Anyone that you feel should be recommended? Anyone that you feel should be avoided? I am looking for a room with DSL, any recommendations?

I would also like to know if any establishment specializes in employing English speaking chicas.

At the time I am writing this I am leaning toward The Palace as my first dip in the pleasure of the DR, any advice against such?

Any help is appreciated and thanks in advance.

Keep a rain coat on that willy!

Mattster

Hi Guys,

I am looking for cheap flights from MIA to POP. The best rate I found so far is 228 RT. That was on AA. My dates are flexible and I am targeting to depart sometime in the spring. Anyone have a better rate or looking for parties to add to a charter?

Has anyone used a chartered flight before? I like the lack of hassle with security in using a chartered flight. The TSA is so obnoxious. I like my travel with as little fuss as possible.

Two hours is a decent flight time for me. That I can handle. Any airlines I should avoid? What's the deal with currency exchanges? I usually find that airports are a rip-off. What's the best places for the best rates?

Anyone else planning for the Spring? It looks like I will try the Palace for my first trip to the DR. I called John there the other day and he said the Penthouse will be ready real soon. $100/night. What's your take on that guys? I'm thinking of going for it because, hey, what the fuck, I'm on vacation, you know. I just have to make sure it has air conditioning and I can order all my *amenities* in. ;-)

I have never tried Viagra but plan to on this trip. Anyone have any advice as regards contraindications with recreational pharmaceuticals? I'm all ears.

I just dig the idea that I can walk in off the street and buy V over the counter. Outstanding! My kind of place.

What about paraphernalia as regards rec. drugs? I am more than a little leery traveling with such. Do they have paraphernalia shops (head shops) in the DR? I can usually make what I need in a pinch at a local housewares store in the US. Any equivalent in the DR?

What about sex toys? I don't relish the idea of some TSA thug pulling out a two to three foot dildo from my bag that I was bring to facilitate an ass-to-ass show. Do they have any for sale in Sosua or anywhere else in the DR for that matter? What about mailing stuff ahead? Is that cool? Is it common practice? I could Fed Ex my package out the same day as my flight and be in the DR the next day to sign for it. Anyone here have any experience with that?

Anyone planning on traveling in the Spring give me a shout out. Maybe we can hook up for a couple of cervezas at the Palace.

Happy hunting fellas!

-Mattster

PS I may be asking a lot of questions but I agree with the maxim PPPPPP (Proper Planning Prevents [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] Poor Performance). Who wants to have a hassle on vacation? Plan ahead the man said. Another maxim I like is something an old junk dealer said: "Be careful who's money you pick-up". Always good advice.

Hola Mongers,

Any language schools in the DR? I wouldn't mind spending a few months learning Spanish in an immersion program if the price was right (and I could always write it off).

I wonder if I could swing a Fullbrite Scholarship for such...

That would be a hoot! Uncle Sam paying the bills for one's time in the DR. I always did enjoy creative financing. ;-)

-Mattster

Hi Mattster: For more information on immersion Spanish lessons, please contact us personally at mrparticular02@yahoo.com
We at Mr. Particular have lived in the DR for more than four years and, believe us, there is more than speaking Spanish in the DR than simply learning Spanish. There are many different dialects used, in many ways you can compare it to the various forms of English that are used in parts of the US; the cold, hard truth is: that many people from different areas and different social standings, speak a whole different form of Spanish, and in many cases, cannot even understand each other, without great effort. We also have teaching experience in Dominican educational environments and may be able to work something out with you as far as fast-tracking your communication skills.

Hi Guys

I'm assuming that DR would be the cheapest place to hit from Miami for a two day trip.

If I were to fly into DR for just two nights, which city would be some of the senior mongers first chocie?

octatron,

Puerto Plata (POP). flight leaves Miami daily at about 11:20. arrives in pop at 2:30 or so. Jesus from the Palace will be waiting for you. John welcomes you at the Palace at 3pm, 3:05 Luca takes your bags to your suite, 3:07 you are getting blown by a goregueos 18 year old, you finish the scedule.

Why POP and the Palace?

Flight is shortest

Smaller airport, less crowds less hassles, faster immigration.

Airport is closer to a monger destination.

John at the Palace will show you around quickly for money exchange, restaurants, disco, bars.

At the Palace you can find plenty of afternoon action, which is sometimes hard to come by in Boca Chica or Santo Domingo.
and this is a must for a two day stay in my opinion.

With a short stay like that make sure you have vitamin v. If not John can get it for you.

Fantasy,
Great fucking post. I have emailed this post to some of my friends who are sitting on the fence about going to Sosua. They have now fallen off. I will believe it though when I see these guys banging some nice dominican chicks. Are you going to be down there Apr 24th-Apr 29th? I am looking to rage that town like a bunch of drunken pirates.

I think Santo Domingo is a better place for 2 day trip if you do not need the "support network" of Sosua. Heck as soon as ya leave the airport in SDQ, you can stop at Pacos which is maybe 5 minutes away. Stay at a hotel in Gazcue area and there are maybe 6 massage places open in the day time within walking distance etc.

The way I look at it, because of sheaper prices, Sosua might be a good idea if staying a long time and trying to do it on the cheap. If you are only going for 2-3 days, money is usually less of a factor.

The quality of women in SD is certainly higher than Boca or Sosua.

Santiago is another option but the places are spread out too far.

In SD, if you stay at say Juragua, or Casona Dorada etc, you can walk to:

Daytime places open till maybe 10:00 or 12:00 :

Mona Lisa

Sueno Real

Elegante

Cisne

Michelle

the place behind the TV station

cinquenta dos


night time places:

Remington, pretty long walk though

lapsus

Tabu

Merengue Bar

Octatron, I figured you eloped with Maria. I wanna hear about Maria. I just got back and I looked for her almost every night and couldn't find her. Backchannel my hot mail account: Richardhead41

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Fantasy
[i]octatron,

Puerto Plata (POP). flight leaves Miami daily at about 11:20. arrives in pop at 2:30 or so. [b] Flight leaves JFK @ 12noon[/b] Jesus from the Palace will be waiting for you. John welcomes you at the Palace at 3pm, 3:05 Luca takes your bags to your suite, 3:07 you are getting blown by a goregueos 18 year old, you finish the scedule.

Why POP and the Palace?

Flight is shortest

Smaller airport, less crowds less hassles, faster immigration.

Airport is closer to a monger destination.

John at the Palace will show you around quickly for money exchange, restaurants, disco, bars.

At the Palace you can find plenty of afternoon action, which is sometimes hard to come by in Boca Chica or Santo Domingo.
and this is a must for a two day stay in my opinion.

With a short stay like that make sure you have vitamin v. If not John can get it for you. [/i][/QUOTE]

I just joined WSG recently. I live in China, but I visited the DR for the first time last fall. I just wanted to thank all you guys for your reports. This forum was a wealth of valuable info for me. I was only in SD, but went to all the places mentioned in the reports. I found Remington Palace to have the best overall quality, but I had a girl from Lazoo on my last night that was the best. Anyway, if any of you guys need any advice on Asian countries, just let me know. I have been living out here for over 20 years and travel extensively around the region. Thanks again!

hey guys when is the merengue festival and where

Typical 5 night trip using Boca Chica for example:
Tourist Card-$10
Airfare-$500
Taxi to Hotel roundript-$25
Hotel-$40US a night=$200
Total for trip=$735

My budget for 1 day with pros/semi-pros
tips only for food/maid-$5
motoconcho-$1-2
Food(only eat two meals a day)-$10
Drinks(usually Presidentes)-$25
Buying girl drink(s)/or to those begging(only to elderly or children)-$10
1 short time(two climaxes/1.5 hr usually)-$20-26
Overnight woman-$30-35

I arrived Tues let's say at 12 pm and when I wake up Wed this is how much I have typically spent for that 24 hr period:$101-$113
Will use $110X5=$550

Overall total for 5 night trip=735+550= $1285
I am posting this because of seeing how much Babylon Resorts charge for just 3 nights($2500US approx) For that much money you could spend around 2 weeks in the DR and bang 28 different women if you use different woman for each short time and overnight.

Wolverine,

You have some awesome posts & I am researching a trip to DR or BC & want to thank you for your info. In my brief research I think the Babylon $2500 "arranged" trip is not only too expensive but also a cop-out. Your below post of less money & more adventuring & more women sounds far better & satisfying. I am english-only speaking however & am worried that I will have too tough of a time negotiating with street girls/locals but I guess that will be part of the "monger-high".

SMALLWORLD

I've seen a few posts where people are asking if ok to Fed Ex "paraphanelia" for their trip to DR as a way to avoid embarrassing situations at the airport or in customs.

Guys stay away from sending toys via Fed Ex, UPS or any other carrier. Not only is it prohibitively expensive (about $60 to 80 for a small box under 5 lbs) but it will get caught up in customs there and it will take about a week for it to be delivered. And that's just assuming the delivery is to take place in Santo Domingo. In the other areas, delivery service is spotty to say the least and you could honestly wait up to a month for a small package to be delivered. The other problem is that you will have to pay an import tax on whatever it is that you send. This is an arbitrary process, and you could get screwed into paying hundreds for that two foot long, family heirloom dildo you plan on using on some unsuspecting chica! (lol)

My advice is to leave the toys at home, and if you MUST have them, I'm sure there are places there that can sell you whatever your disturbingly perverted hearts desire.

Good info, Carib Traveler:

I have a few local women now in the DR and the mail service there is horrible if they even receive it. Customs tax the hell out of any type of items. The best thing to do if you meet someone down there is keep in touch on-line, just use Priority GPS, etc, only for letters or pictures but expect 1 week-2 week delivery time. Sending packages is not worth the effort and for god's sake don't send money in the mail, if you do, don't declare it. There is a good chance they won't get it. If you have to send money, become the Western Union "John" and pay your 6 dollar rate to send money, plus 8 percent on the principal. Sending 100US will cost 114 total and they will have it in 15 minutes. I am saying this because I have had paternity done and have son there now, she was normal girl and still is, she works and I send a little bit down every month.

Smallworld,
It is safe for travelers, just don't overpay. The girls know how to negotiate, they know that much english, lol. Plenty of black girls/Haitian descent in Boca Chica. Santo Domingo have more variety of skin color. Santiago and surrounding campo have more light colored skin and a good variety as well. Saw posts of yours in various areas, hell I can meet normal girls if I wanted but if you want websites to meet girls, they have ones like dominicaninlove and amigos.com, the latter I have actually used with good results. Well, have fun.

guys you can take the toys just put them in a pants or shirt and when you get to custom you open the bag and put a 10 spot where the inspector can see it then he knows not to look he will only skim thougt the bag.i do it all the time i tell you this becuse i'm dominican and in d.r. if you give the moneky money he will dance

[QUOTE]Originally posted by pa4puz
[i]guys you can take the toys just put them in a pants or shirt and when you get to custom you open the bag and put a 10 spot where the inspector can see it then he knows not to look he will only skim thougt the bag.i do it all the time i tell you this becuse i'm dominican and in d.r. if you give the moneky money he will dance [/i][/QUOTE]


[red] Last 3 times they just waived me thru. [/red]

Is there a generic brand of Viagra in the DR? If so, what is it called? I have never tried Viagra/generic form but am going to in future trips. Just experiment with it at 25MG doses and see what happens. If not I will just try Viagra down there. Thanks.
wolverine7l

Hello Gentlemen:

I'm an avid Brazil aficionado and I keep hearing good things about the DR, but honestly when I compare the prices for the trips it seems as if the Brazil Trip is more economical? Any one here done both Brazil and DR that can give me an honest comparison?

Phil

Wolverine:

Levitra is the other alternative to Viagra, manufactured by Bayer. I recently read in the news about some deaths because of people using generic Viagra made in unauthorized laboratories, but I dont know how it can affect an X-men.

Thanks Boricua,
Do you know how much Viagra costs in the DR? I was mainly asking because I didn't know if they would say we don't have Viagra and try to sell me another generic brand and I didn't want it to be BS. From my understanding you don't need a prescription in the DR.
wolverine7l

DR Departure tax doubled to USD 20 yesterday.

Phil,

It's been a few years since I was last in Brazil. You're right Brazil is very cheap and the women there are CRAZY! I did most of my traveling there just before the huge currency devaluation. However since the brazilian REAL is no longer a major currency, it is quite possible that the prices are as good if not better than DR. Airfare to Brazil either Sao Paolo or Rio de Janiero is getting pretty cheap from Miami. I've seen a couple of sub $300 fares on occassion.

The airfare and hotels are pretty cheap in DR, but what is really surprising are the costs for food and drink. Overall, it is basically given away. People have a hard time understanding that american brand cigarettes typically cost around a dollar. Drinks are super cheap. These are the things that typically kill travel budgets. In Brazil, the last time I was there, the whole trip cost me about $1200, including airfare, meals and hotel. And that was for 4 nights. In DR, $1200 will buy you a lot of pussy.

I'm going to DR soon, but have dreamed of partying in Rio for a while. I may go there this year.

Hi,

First time poster, but will return often! I'm going to La Romana in mid September. Any idea how it is for chicas? I speak some spanish, so thats not a prob. I'm staying at an all inclusive (Iberostar), which is pretty "nice". Will I have trouble getting girls in (if I find any)? Any chance I might just find a week long GF to hang with if I feed her?

Thanks for any help...
(PS - if its really dead there, I may take a 2 day trip up to Sousa)

P

hey been doing some price shopping check out american air websites it looks like during net saver promotions last min.. you can fly from ny of fla for 300 with tax other option is from phil -bmore or newark on usa 3000 new start up to punta cana 404. my question is how far is it to sousa or santo domingo what is the dr chica rate for short and long term thanks

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Vagringo
[i]hey been doing some price shopping check out american air websites it looks like during net saver promotions last min.. you can fly from ny of fla for 300 with tax other option is from phil -bmore or newark on usa 3000 new start up to punta cana 404. my question is how far is it to sousa or santo domingo what is the dr chica rate for short and long term thanks [/i][/QUOTE]

[red] Punta Cana to Santo Domingo is 2 plus hours I believe then 5 hours to Sosua. [/red]

hey any body that can direct me to spots in bc and sd like t---rocks in lima and la dolce vite in cart thanks will be there next week hopefuly

what are bacic apt prices 1 month example sousa ,boca and sd other exspenses food, pus etc would you need a car or can you rely on publico thanksi

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10,000 miles for signing up
miles for charging
No FEE for 6 MONTHS!!!! [/i][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Mirco
[i]How many miles are needed for a ticket to DR? [/i][/QUOTE]

25,000 Off-peak

30,000 Peak

Going to Punta Cana on September 7th for a week at Iberostar. Not able to have much free time but need to monger! Any help local hotspots, or how far is the nearest spot were FS can be had?

I see a lot of you guys want to have steady girls down there which I must say is very nice. The first thing you need to do is to learn a little Spanish so you know what she is saying. The second thing is never ever meet one in a *****house thinking that she is a nice girl. They crossed a line to get into that position. You can meet them at the Beach on Sundays which is family day or you can meet them working in stores or even on Public transportation. Find out what their goals are. My girl was going to school 2 days a week and wanted to finish High School. She was 22 at the time and now 3 years later she will be done July 2004. I said to her that I will pay for college and thats what she really wants to do. She has a plan. Lots have plans but mostly the plan is to get to America or the fuck out of DR. Another great plan is to see how many gringos will send them Western Union. She also wants to own a house one day and after she finishes college she will have a good job by their standards and she will have it.

Another way to judge them is to see where their kids are. If they are with grandma then you are with a party girl.Some do have their kids with them. They hire babysitters. These are decent chicas as well.

My girl needs money to get by but she has never asked me for money for her family ecept 50 pesos for one of the to babysit the kids.

One of the great things about school is it takes 3-4 hours and I can roam all over everyday. They need goals. Coming to America is not a GOAL!!!

Ok I've gotten no info on Punta Cana so I am now thinking very little to nothing is available there? What town is close, to Punta Cana, that FS is available? I will be allowed at least 3 hours once maybe twice during my stay, and the little women just isn't enough for me! Also does anyone know if tours are avilable to Cuba from the D.R. ? If so if I'm an american just traveling with birth certificate and I.D. will I have issues with Cuban Immigration?

I am writing this to all of the forum users out there, so that I can bring up a few points about me and also about the "scene" in Santo Domingo. I am the person fondly or not so fondly referred to as Mr. Particular. I am an American who has lived in Santo Domingo for 9 years. I speak fluent spanish, and through many personal and business trials and tribulations I have managed to gain a great deal of knowledge and insight into all aspects of Dominican life and culture.

I would like to take the time to address several subjects that I have recently read on the boards, although I have to admit I don't regularly read these boards nor will I be regularly reading them into the future. Not to show any disrespect to anyone who regularly writes their opinions in these columns, but I simply have many other more important things to do which encompass my life here in Santo Domingo. Please don't be offended if I don't respond on the forums, the best place to reach me is the mrparticular02@yahoo.com address should you want me to respond. In the next month, you can also access me on our new website mrparticular.com.

One of my big concerns in reading some of the opinions and advice columns given by "experts" on the DR is that people are often encouraged to do it on your own, that the DR is a safe place and you can basically have your own adventure here. This is not only very poor advice but it is very dangerous advice, and ignorant as well. Unless you live here, you may be coming here every few months/6 months/once a year, and you will have a feeling that you are king and the world is your oyster. Very wrong.

With the fall of the peso here (which many of you are finding is working towards your advantage) the level of desperation is at an all time high. People are capable of doing anything (and are) if it means getting a few bucks in their pocket. Last week a police general was wounded and sargent killed here in a robbery attempt by two people in Santiago, that were then caught and killed. Crime is very much up here and this is because those who make pesos are not making any more money, and while their salaries remain the same inflation is at 60% compared to a year ago at this time.

I am not trying to scare you from coming here, I am simply saying to you use your heads before you encourage anyone to come down here in "do it themselves" mode.

When I take people on tours, I know of 27 stops that I can take them. All of the stops know me personally and respect me. Both the management and the girls know that when I walk in the door they better treat the client with respect and not inflate their prices, or they won't be seeing me very much or ever again. If they mistreat the client, they will see me again but they won't very much like it. Luckily this doesn't happen very often.

Santo Domingo houses have their rules that I have absolutely no control over. When you go to a house between 9 p.m. and 1 a.m. and you pay for a girl to be taken out, you can have her for up to 3 hours. Incidentally you pay the same if you take her out for the 3 hours or do her there for 1 hour or so. If you take the girl after 1 in the morning, you can have her until 11 in the morning only if she agrees to those terms. If you do what NPaul did, for example, and want the girl at say 10 p.m. until the next morning, you have to pay a double salida, which is why he paid so much. I will allow him to tell you if he was informed of this and if I speak the truth.

Now let's address the issue of commissions that a lot of you seem so worried about.

Most houses pay the guide a commission for bringing the client by. This commission comes out of the girl's cut and does not affect how much you pay, whether you go with a guide or not. The girls don't mind the guide taking the cut because they know if my client gets treated right, and another client uses my service another day who likes her, that I will recommend her as a good choice to spend the night. She winds up getting a lot more business. Girls who have no intention of treating my clients well also know to stay away from a Mr. Particular client, because if I find out that they were not treated right, I will go back the next day and have a talk with the management. Just out of curiosity, how many other services are doing this?

Now about casa de las modelos in the University zone. I highly recommend that everyone stay away from there. You have already read NPaul's experience. I also had 2 other customers that went together and took 2 girls out at 4 a.m.. I spoke with the girls and they assured me that they would stay with my clients until 11 a.m., and they ran out after 45 minutes in a planned scheme. I went back the next day with the 2 customers, and spoke with the boss (a vicious looking thing that looks like she could play linebacker in the NFL) and explained the situation to her, and demanded that the money be returned to my clients. She spoke with the girls, who of course denied everything, and refused to give the money back and threw me out of the house.

Casa de las Modelos used to be a good place, but the personality of the place has changed recently. The girls are much tougher and do less for more than any other place I have found. Casa de las modelos also stopped paying commissions to guides 4 months ago, but, for the record, I still brought any and all customers that were interested in this place by there until now. I will not be bringing any other clients by this place ever again.

Now to address those who come down here and want something for nothing, which they seem to think exists here when they can't get that in their own country. I have never put a pistol to anyone's head to use our service. Those who have used it, and there have been many of you, know that I am very professional, I treat you very well, that I am honest (yes, I will even tell the client when I am getting a commission), and that you will be safe on my tour. I cannot absolutely guarantee that the girl will treat you as you would like, although I have a very high rating with my clients, it is not perfect. Guys who use my service regularly know I throw them discounts all the time.

I guess the main thing here is that if you would like to take a tour of Santo Domingo with someone who speaks fluent English and Spanish and has 9 years of experience living here, that takes the guess work and hassles out of your vacation so you can have the best time, then I am your man, and if you have it all figured out or have a cheaper way of doing things, that's fine, too, and I respect that, and I hope that you respect that I would rather be doing something else such as spending time with my family.

Sup Peoples..OK heres the deal..Me and one of my boyz plan to go to DR in Feb.04..The trip is definite..It will be for 4-5 Days..Either one of us have ever been there and we dont speak spanish..Were def in the prowl for some bangin Chicas..but we really need some serious info on what the hell were doin..like what place is the best to visit?..(Security, Quality of girls, and most for the american buck in mind)..i heard Santa Domingo...is this true?..also what are some good places to stay in SD that are chica friendly..(clean places..quality food/women)..the one that comes with benefits..shit i could prob go on for dayz with the questions..but we need some serious help..Anybody that can help me out with any info it would def be appreciated..u can email me..or reply..no info is too much..thanx..

Can anyone update their experience at Blackbeards?

Thanks.

Mr. particular. You seem to be posting thsi same message EVERYWHERE. Most of what you write in this message is BS.

Tell me how many gringos you have heard of getting mugged, or robbed in Gazcue? I have been to the DR about 50 times, walk all over that area any time of night, and never saw even a hinto fo a problem. Most of thse massage parlors and casas are in decent areas or gringos need to take taxis there anyway.

Commisions> Now you know you are lying. Commisions get ADDED to the price.
If I go with you to Mona Lisa and pay 1500 pesos, are you saying you will get a cut of that from the girl's take? Nope. They will not pay ANY commision if the price is 1500. Now if you bring some gringos they will UP the price and give you a cut. I spent a day visiting 9 of the top massage places in SD with my buddy who drives a taxi. the deal was pretty similar in ALL places. He brings gringo, and the price is higher than if a gringo shows up on their own. He gets a cut out of the EXTRA pesos, not from the girls cut. The average commison for FS was 700 - 800 pesos!!!

I don't think there is anything wrong with taxi drivers or touts getting a commison if they bring the customer to the casa. I DO think it is wrong when the "guide" is charging the customer for their "services".

Why should anybody pay you 20 bucks per hour, so they pay MORE at the casas?

Why don't you post the prices your "clients" have to pay at each massage place and I will post the real prices?

Deal?

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What makes a hooker a great hooker, their ability to act and make you feel special of course. Sosua is full of these actresses that make you think they like you when you are just another gringo of course. Two of the best I met back in April 2002 were Ester and Yocaster, who between them had about a dozen guys falling for their acts.Some days they went between 2 different boyfriends and it was fun to watch.
Watching them turn on the water woirks is a show unto itself. Tears on, Tears off.
When you rent a car and they give you great service do you think they like you any better, of cours not. Customer servive is a tool and the girls of Sosua have mastered it.
After spending 120 days in Sosua over the last 2 years, I have seen these done over and over again. So many Monger hearts were broken. You meet a girl in a *****house, she is a HOOKER!

If you speak Spanish and meet her in a non tourist town, you have a chance for a semi relationship but never in a town full of hookers.

Just my 2 cents here.

I was in DR back in 97 or 98. Stayed in SD and also went to Boca Chica. My impression was 90 percent or more girls - very very dark, in both cities. Maybe we didn't go to the right places, I am just saying from what I saw on the streets and beach. Downtown SD in ruins - no lights at night whatsoever - main street was completely dark. The beach was great though, and it felt safe being there despite the poverty.

I heard that in the North, girls are of a lighter complexion, green/blue eyes? Is this correct, as I haven't been able to determine if this is true from reading the board.

Thanks all!

Sean

Dear Sean EZ,

I just returned from the north coast of the D.R. and no I wouldn't say that the girls are especially light-skinned up there either but many of them are absolutely stunning!
Attached is a girl from the capitol city of Santiago that I would classify as the "typical" Santiago look. Due to the fact that Santiago is in the mountains and somewhat isolated [which may lead to a higher % of inbreeding?] many of the girls possess consistently typical facial features. Thank God!!
Cheers,
FORD

Sean ez,

I'm no expert on the DR or Dominicans, but I think that on average you're going to find that most dominicans are darker skinned and have black facial features, hair textures & body-builds. The reason being is rather simple: Thier country, along with Haiti, was once a destination point for countless thousands of slaves from West Africa.

So, going to th DR and complaining about there being too many black chicks is almost as bad as doing likewise in a place like Lagos Nigeria or something.

Whatever the case, I think that Dominican women are hella fine and have some really nices asses. Check out some of the pics here! In my book they sure-as-hell beat the ironing-board assed american women that I run into on-the-daily.

Later!

Chacho

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She might be from santiago, but the capital city is santo domingo. Santiago is the second largest city after santo domingo.

To prtyr2,

After I posted that I realized my mistake, but was too lazy to edit it. (zzzzz) In the words of Ed McMahon "You are correct sir!"
(Santo Domingo is the capitol)
Cheers,
FORD

Dear Sean EZ,

If you are looking for very light skin girls (White girls with Green or Blue Eyes) and they do exist. You will have to go into the country side of the Dominican Republic to a Town called El Rubio (English Translation, The Blond Town. The town is name this way because of the obvious reason 70% of the people of blond hair and blue or green eyes.)

I have been to this town and the other sorrounding town and I have the experience to be quite good. When you get to El Rubio go to the town Disco after 10 PM, you will not be disappointed with the result and the types of girls that you see.

There are two negatives:

1. El Rubio does not have a very good Hotel. It does have one in the center of town. Even Though they call it a hotel, it more of a Bed and Breakfast type place. The owners will let you bring Girls to your room no problem. The cost of stay is $ 30.00 per day.

2. Very little English is spoken here. There are some people who know english, but the number is very small. If you know how to speak Spanish or even a little you will be alright.

I had a good picture of a girl I use to see everytime I went there. Guys I am not lying she is a 10. I look for the pic and post it later on.

Well, I hope this help you folks. If anybody has question, please just ask.

El Cubanito

El Cubanito,
Can you give us a little more details about this town. I have been to the DR about 10 or 11 times over the last 6 years, I even lived there for four months once. How is this town is for gringos? Is it safe? Are the girls putas or nonputas? The experience I have is that the people are real friendly in these countryside towns. You do not come across as many bullshit artists and conman looking to rip you off as you do in the tourist areas. What kind of places to eat? I have a funny felling this place could be a real goldmine because a lot of gringos do not go there. Thanks for your info.

backnblack

Hello backnblack,

Yes, you are right this town is a gold mine for gringos. Gringos are very welcome in this town. There is a mixture of putas and non-putas in this town. The non-putas if you talk to them and treat them with respect will open their legs for you and do a whole lot of stuff with you. I met this tall blond girl a couple of years ago and she was excellent.

You are also correct about not a lot of bullshit happens here. As far as places to eat there is only two. There are two restaurant in downtown Rubio that will serve food. Let me know if you are looking for a place to stay. I will recommend a good bed and breakfast type place. The best time to got El Rubio is right after Christmas. As most of the girls in the country side come to the town looking for fun and sex.

Good Luck

El Cubanito

Funny!
According to the World Geografical Organization and all atlases and maps the only human settlement in the world with the name El Rubio is located in Southern Spain and has population of 1017 persons including elderly, babies and disabled (2002 census).
Joke?
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Dear Sean EZ,

If you are looking for very light skin girls (White girls with Green or Blue Eyes) and they do exist. You will have to go into the country side of the Dominican Republic to a Town called El Rubio (English Translation, The Blond Town. The town is name this way because of the obvious reason 70% of the people of blond hair and blue or green eyes.)

I have been to this town and the other sorrounding town and I have the experience to be quite good. When you get to El Rubio go to the town Disco after 10 PM, you will not be disappointed with the result and the types of girls that you see.

There are two negatives:

1. El Rubio does not have a very good Hotel. It does have one in the center of town. Even Though they call it a hotel, it more of a Bed and Breakfast type place. The owners will let you bring Girls to your room no problem. The cost of stay is $ 30.00 per day.

2. Very little English is spoken here. There are some people who know english, but the number is very small. If you know how to speak Spanish or even a little you will be alright.

I had a good picture of a girl I use to see everytime I went there. Guys I am not lying she is a 10. I look for the pic and post it later on.

Well, I hope this help you folks. If anybody has question, please just ask.

El Cubanito

The World Geographic Organization must of missed one.
My "D.R." map shows the town of El Rubio to be in the central/western portion of the Dominican Republic between the towns of Los Rincones and Los Caimiticos - approximately 30 miles southwest of the City of Santiago and about 50 miles east of the Haitian line.
I'm going to be "North-coasting" in the D.R again for two weeks next month - I wonder if El Rubio is worth the drive?
I'm thinking I like the D.R because I like Dominican mujeres' looks, if I wanted blonde hair and green eyes maybe I'm better off on an Aer Lingus flight to Dublin. ;)
Just my 2 cents.
Cheers,
FORD

El rubio is an actual town. I have spent time in the Santiago province and surrounding areas. It is small and I didn't realize the town had a bed/breakfast or any type of lodging. I just passed through here when I was visiting San Jose de las Matas. I would say it is about 45 minutes drive from Santiago and less than 30 minutes from San Jose. I wasn't overly impressed because in the Santiago provinces there are more light skinned women than on the coasts. Santiago itself has many lighter skinned women. Any smaller town without many tourists, action can be found at disco's with normal women with a few drinks and dancing with them, speaking above elementary Spanish is almost necessary.

A tip, fly into Santiago(STI), catch a cab to San Jose de las Matas. The only really place that I know of to stay is the new hotel that is located on the Ventana River about 5 minutes from town. People swimming in the river daily, especially near the hotel, very romantic to sit by river at night with some drinks with a normal girl. A couple of concession stands are there as well an little colmados(stores). I would rent a motorbike or get two cell numbers of taxi drivers and if you want to go to town, go for it because it will be only a few dollars(3US at most). There is the real happening bar there, La Igua where they have famous Bachata singers perform there frequently on the weekend. The bar is packed. I know it is less than 100RD to enter and there are literally about a 1000 people there. Single women will be sitting at tables usually in a group. Be bold and go up to one and offer your hand and they will dance with you. The man is more respected up here and if they are interested in you, you can tell but they almost always will dance with you anyways. Have them teach you Bachata or Merengue. Very good non pro gfe in this town. Very poor people and treat them well because they are not the usual women you will run into at Boca Chica, etc. Very safe and everyone is more than willing to offer you assistance. I don't know of any brothels here but I am sure there is one because I had good action up here from nonpros. Had a child with one as a matter of fact. If you can't find any action you can always go to Santiago to one of the clubs there while cultivating the nonpro experience. Beautiful scenery and I will post a picture on this page of la ventana and surrounding scenery. Oh the name of the hotel is Hotel Sajoma(Ventana Rio Lindo). For a nice single room is 500RD(just say 15US). Owners are Marina and Miguel Pena. Tele: (809) 9394423 or (809)5788234. Cell: 809 9147763. A worker there named Noel can help you out with the woman situation if need be: cell 809 974 8166

If you want to try out El rubio, or San Jose or any surrounding smaller town, I highly recommend that, relax and not worry about all the vendors and tigres/as, spend less money and get nonpro pu..y, then go for it. I had to crop the photos they were too big.

countryside outside of San Jose

A normal Dominicana, I decided to post some of my photos. Don't ask for phone number, isn't a pro and I won't give out.

Normal girl from Santo Domingo.

very hot girl:) Well worth the effort.

another normal hot one. All of the pics I posted are of chicas 18-19yr old but I am 26 so I get the young, nice looking ones in my opinion. I had to post some photos of what can be had besides some of the uglier, hard core pros who don't give gfe like normal girls. Sorry I did horrible job resizing and my first digital camera was horrible, 1.3 megapixel. Other photos are with my 2.1 Samsung, sure can tell the difference of quality.

Greetings :)

I live in New York City and paying for sex here really sucks.

So I am thinking of visiting the DR for a nice one week vacation. :)

If these questions have been asked, then I apologize, but please answer them for me. :)

1. Does a U.S. citizen need a tourist visa to visit the DR?

2. Is sex legal in the DR?

3. What else do I need to prepare before departing for the DR?
Do I need to bring any documents?

Thank you very much for your feedback. Let's go and help the DR's economy! haha :)

Sincerely,

New World Order

new world order,
you can buy the 10us tourist visa at miami airport if going through there but i always buy at the airport in the dr when i arrive. they are green tourist cards that they don't even look at and i always fill out in line. if arriving in sdq airport, as soon as you are walking to customs and the lines, look to the right and you will see a booth selling tourist cards. you can travel on official copy of birth certificate with raised seal and a photo id. a passport is much easier though. sex is legal and a booming business, massage parlors, prostitutes, are all legal. of course there are sicko's out there who want to mess with **** and a good rule to stick by is, don't stick anything under 18 but you know that. cheap sex, beautiful women, and great beaches, have fun. most girls are beach/bar workers, street walkers, etc and a great thing is no bar fine. mainly free lancers except at higher end clubs who have exit fees. all night should be less than 1000rd, and for 2 hours during the day less than 800rd. i always shoot for not spending more than 50us a day for action for a couple hours during the day and an all nighter and never once have i spent more than 50us for this. currently about rd35 to 1us. have fun.

I just want to give some people some advice on meeting normal girls the easy way if you are limited in Spanish or not very outgoing. I am not endorsing any services but basing on my experiences. I have looked through free penpal sites, you know to get penpals and try to work something out extra but usually only one or two dominicanas on the site and no luck on that. I have tried out the greatest ripoff ever. adultfriendfinder dot com, if you like spam and women sending links to adult paysites, than join. I did meet one woman on there who was from Santo Domingo. I emailed all of the women in various age ranges and out of dozens of emails, only 3 were legitimate that responded. The picture that was sent to me was older and she was heavier than the photo. I did get a freebie but didn't see her again. So I wasted the 3 month fee I chose for one normal woman who wasn't all that great but she gave good effort. I have also done MSN, Yahoo member searches and emailed nice looking ones with photos but it is very time consuming and once again after a lot of time spent, though of no cost, I did bang another from Santo Domingo.

Now what I do, I don't plan on going to the DR much anymore so I will post this. I sign up for amigos dot com with a month's silver membership. It costs about 11US I believe. You get unlimited emailing and you can email thousands of Dominicanas or women around the world. Plus some of them email you. I do my searches and email all the ones I find interesting, attractive if they have photo, and I have had numerous responses to my emails. About 2/3rds at least respond. I sign up about 1.5 months before my trip because I don't want to talk to them longer than I have too, then they want you to call them, do Messenger thing, etc. I establish several good relationships with women that I narrow down after a couple of weeks, after several emails I gently break the ice regarding making love, seeking a nice woman who can please me in all ways including sexually because I won't have a relationship with any woman who isn't pleasing to me in bed. I stress that and usually shyly they will respond back that they know how to please a man and understand you. If they are an adamant no, I cut them loose and keep those that are open to romance or who say they will kiss and experiment for chemisty. Those ones are the ones I score with on a regular basis. They all ready think of you as a boyfriend and they are excited to see you and they are hugging you and kissing you later that day if not at the moment. I always say I want a big hug and kiss the first time we meet. Take them out: go dancing and drinking with her the first night and unless you blow it by being a drunken as.ho.e, you will score 90Percent on the first date. Normal dominicanas with some alchohol in them are very horny, those who have experience in the DR know this. The hard part of all of this, is working the women around each other. By the way, before you meet them, send a photo of yourself and request a recent one of them as well because that way the girl will know what you look like and vice versus. If they want a relationship of any type after seeing your photo and keep writing, you almost surely will score but if you don't send photo, you can meet them and out of politeness they will go out on date with you, you will waste your money and time and get nothing. I don't know if this will help anyone out but it has worked wonderfully for me.

Thank you very much Wolverine7l :)

I greatly appreciate it! :)

DR sounds like heaven to me! LOL

Time to save up some money for this trip. LOL

Take care.

Sincerely,

New World Order

Wolverine: that last girl's pic: joha.jpg, was hot!! Is she a non-pro? What's her name? Would luv to meet her on my next trip to DR. What city is she from, and do you have any more pics of her? Thanks! My email: pipersgogo@yahoo.com. BTW, I've had some luck with dominicaninlove.com; maybe I'll try amigos.com as well!

Thanks for the detailed information Wolverine7l. While even a rookie is capable of meeting some chicas on their first trip to DR, the path you suggested at least possibly leads one in the direction of meeting so called normal girls. However, I'm not sure it will help very much with those who have limited spanish as you suggested. Still for someone without any connections, its an option. Anyone else have proven ways of meeting normal chicas?

(BTW - I agree that Joha.jpg was Hot!)

Hi fellow mongers,

New to the board as a poster, however I have been a reader/lurker for well over a year now. In fact due to the great reports I read here, I made a trip to DR (Punta Cana) last December. I intend to maybe comeback again this December and visit Sosua this time around. I am currently planning a trip to BA Argentina for early November. My other travels include Thailand and Amsterdam.

If any one is interested in a good deal on airfare in the next 4-5 months I may be able to help you out. I have lots of miles banked that I need to get rid of before I lose them.

I look forward to seeing some of you in December and you can trust that I will have some good updates in the Argentina section once I get there.

For those interested in air fare deals...you can reach me via a private message using the WSG Forum's Private Messaging system.

I am still dreaming of my chica from last year that I took from La Punta in Bavaro (Punta Cana). Julia was her name, 19 and HARD body! And very willing! It was one hell of a TLN!

Cheers!

Greetings gentlemen :)

Thank you very much for the valuable information about the DR. I greatly appreciate it.

I will fly to Santo Domingo and stay there for four days. If anyone else lives there, we can meet up and "explore" the country. :) You hook me up with a GFE type girl, I will buy you food and beer. :)

I read all the posts under the Santo Domingo section (only the posts Jan 2003 until the present).

I found a few hotels. Please tell me which one is the best.

In terms of cbeing clean, chica friendly, price wise, the surrounding areas (whether or not they have a lot of places to find chicas).

1. La Casona Dorada

2. Babylon Resorts (Someone named JimHart69 recommended this place and since they also have tours for the tourist).

3. Hotel Sajoma (Ventana Rio Lindo). Is this located in Santo Domingo?

4. Hotel Naco, El Palacio

5. Mercure Hotel (El Conde District)

6. Hotel Palaciao in Congesso.

My first choice is Babylon Resorts. Jim said to mention him to the owner and they will treat us well. Thanx Jim :)

Do you guys all agree that I should go with Babylon Resorts? Babylon is Chica friendly and is close from the casino right?

Sorry for the many questions, again, if any of you are in that area, let me know and we can meet up! :)

Sincerely,

New World Order

P.S. I will be there from Nov 1 until Nov. 4.

This website is helpful for those with limited Spanish because you can search for girls that put down that they speak English. Usually it isn't the best English but at least you can communicate. You can also get a tour guide/lover out of the deal and she will make sure you aren't ripped off because in her mind you are her man and she will be of good assistance. You will be surprised on how much cheaper things are and what the DR has for tourism. The botanical gardens, Diego Columbus' home, the oldest Catholic Cathedral in North America, museums, etc.

Joha is named Johanny and I corresponded and met/dated her in Santo Domingo and goes to University there. I have her number but she is very mad at me though I treated her well but I met her on Amigos.com and if she is still on there, don't mention me, or you will probably get nowhere. I had to block her off my email address, etc. Dominicanas get pissed off when they are scorned. She is normal girl, all girls pictured are all normal girls, no semi-pros/pros in the bunch. I only have one other photo of her that is about that size and fuzzy and is in similar pose.

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Help Help,

I'm thinking of flying into DR for only 4 days, quick trip.

Where should I go and stay. I would prefer somewhere/town near airport to optimize my time there, even if that means spending a few more pesos on chicas.

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(posted this on the sosua board - figured i would throw it on this thread here too)

official exchange rate

buy us$1=rd$36.45
sell us$1=rd$37.67

-el nacional - el caribe - 10/31/03

president dismisses threat of "unrest"

president hipolito mejia gave a rep001hing reaction to the warnings of the president of the dominican american chamber of commerce, jorge ivan ramirez, who said that the current economic troubles will lead to social unrest. "look at me - i am shaking!" said mejia when questioned on the matter by a tv reporter. ramirez, who is also the president of codetel, had described the crisis as the most serious the country had ever experienced and said that if the government does not start to manage the situation "in a more disciplined and equitable manner", the country's social order and political legitimacy will quickly break down.

** no currency in the world has dropped in value more than the dominican peso over the past 9 months! the exchange rate is no longer amusing it is getting downright unsettling! the dominican currency is sinking like a stone, and it can't be much longer before there is the inevitable spike up in crime. who better to target but the walking atm machines......the tourists. i will be back down in sosua on sunday. cuidado all!!
cheers,
(jd rockefeller of the "d.r.") ford

Mav will be opening an internet cafe in Sosua shortly. With in that Cafe I will be setting up the onsite WSG charities field office. If you want to donate money, we will show you how via PayPal, unless you already know how. If you have old toys, clothing that you want to donate or school supplies just drop them off as well.

If you would like to donate some time stop by. There are a few ex pats that have cars so we will be able to locate the needy. There are millions of them here. Its SAD!


He will have discount cards on sale (Discount cards for internet use) as well and all WSG members get 10 percent off at his 2 bars. His bar is in The Blue Dolphin and his beach bar is #10.

This field office will also be a member center so stop by, call home or check your e mails!!!!

Hello -
This is just a email notice I get from Smarter Living from time to time. Great site for finding out about last minute airfare deals and the like.
Have edited it for brevity.
May have to make a last minute trip to Dom Republic with these costs....but would need advice on where to stay etc.
Punta Cana or
La Romana

Having not been to DR, I guess I better read up on it.

Any advice is welcomed.


READ BELOW:


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The discounted round-trip fares departing from Washington for travel
NEXT WEEKEND OR BEYOND are:

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$289 | DCA | PUNTA CANA, DOMINICAN REPUBLIC (PUJ): US Airways
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Greetings,

What is the best place and price to golf in Puerto Plata or Sosua? Would appreciate some input.

Thanks,

J Stem

Hi all,

Am looking at visiting the Dominican Republic April 19-24/25. I have heard differing opinions about where to stay. I can get cheaper tickets to Santiago, is Puerto Plata better. I am looking for a good hotel that wont give hassels with taking local girls there but is not a dump.

Thanks for any help

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I heard about pro baseball players playing in winter leagues in the DR. Anyone know anything about the pro baseball scene down there? Thanks.

Hey Woobie, Dirtmonger,

You might want to try a place like this, it not a dump & its in a guarded community in Sousa. But if its your first time there you might want to try places like Sousa Palace & Blue Dolphin, there right in the middle of town & easy to get around. No need to rent a car for those places, Casa Linda, to get the true feeling, you'll need a car.

Villa #24, "Yasmin doble", 3 bedrooms, private pool.
http://www.casalindaonline.com/files/24casa.jpg
http://www.casalindaonline.com/files/24pool1.jpg
http://www.casalindaonline.com/files/24appt.jpg
http://www.casalindaonline.com/files/24living.jpg
http://www.casalindaonline.com/files/24garden2.jpg

Quick recommendation:

Took One Tree Hill up on his offer for providing discounted airfare to the DR. My itinerary being ATL-MIA-SDQ, returning POP-MIA-ATL, since I was planning on hitting both SD and Sosua/POP area.

AA published fare, including AAAdvantage discounts, was approx. $500 for my planned itinerary.

One Tree Hill got it for me at $362 including taxes, leaving me with approx. $140 more to play with in DR.

He has promotional airfare deals on AA thru 04/17/04. I'd recommend you try him before booking your flights. Your trip origin doesn't matter. He can undercut published air rates, and he's not a travel agent, just one of us. It's a little suspect-sounding and requires a bit of trust, but he's a stand-up dude and dealt respectably with me and my info.

Any further info needed. PM me.

Hoof

Hi all!

I was wondering just what the Dominican Republic was like in the PFP area. How safe it is, what the best area to live in would be, if the Hotels are Chica-friendly, whether to rent a villa or hotel room?

I am more into the rent-a-girlfriend experience, someone who would spent a couple of days with me, show me the Island, etc. I like Spanish women and can speak some Spanish.

Strangely enough, Ive been to Puerto Rico about half a dozen times but never the Dominican Republic. With a per capita income about one quarter of Puerto Rico's, it must be pretty poor.

In any case, any help would be greatly appreciated.

I plan to visit the DR in the near future. For an Asian speaking only English, will it be difficult to have any fun?

Cheers.

Eric The Prick

My last report on any adult sites and a lesson to be learnt. I have kept quiet about a problem I have encountered and am trying to get all my posts/pics etc deleted from all sites I am a member of due to JDR asking me in a message why I was leaving some sites. Don't always trust mongers you meet in another country. Last trip in the DR spent time with a monger from California for a few days and no problems there but later was spending time with my baby's mom in the DR and met a couple of lurkers from New York or New Jersey, one could have been from Ny and other from nj, my last full night in the DR, and I helped them out a little with info and gave them some numbers of girls that were free lancers/semi pros. Then the day I left to go back to the US, they went to my hotel room (Los Pinos because I flew into Santo Domingo) where my baby son and his mom were staying for that night to see my off on my flight and the next morning have a 4 hour bus ride back home to Santiago province, anyways they propositioned her, she refused because she isn't no damn pro and then in retaliation said I told them she was a prostitute and told them I was a member of various sites. When back in the US she called me very upset about the encounter, I was mad but denied being on any boards, and now 3 months later and less than a week ago, due to them telling her I was on adult sites as a monger, she and a friend who reads good english pieced together my posts, they verified it was me by reading my posts, the lurkers told her what it was in September but she forgot in the moment and her English is very limited. This is the only son I will ever be able to have and thanks for you two fucking lurkers who have severely strained our relationship. I assume they had read my posts on this site but they told me on a couple of sites, and if you two as.holes are reading this, come forward so people can know what kind of backstabbing creeps you are. People please don't email me for info because I am done on these sites and won't respond. I posted a few days back and gave the reasons as people paying crazy prices in Sosua section for leaving, tired of giving info to newbies who don't listen and going to further explore Guatemala but those weren't the real reasons, because I didn't want to tell the real reason why. If Jackson emails me or contacts me with permission I will post a photo of one of those bastards taken with me in BC and the other bastard took the photo of us together but I don't want to be sued or make Jackson pissed off. From now on I won't trust anyone, won't post, and I have come clean with her as of two days ago, and she will probably read this but at least she will know I am done with these boards because family is overall more important to me. Por mi angel Yesenia, lo siento, te amo y nuestro bebe.

Let this be a lesson to us all! Best of luck #1553!

Well that sucks, you show a few guys around and try to help and they fuck you. Please do post their picture for all of us to see. Some of the mongers are assholes. I met a few of them but many others are great guys. Just need to be real CAREFUL!

Wolverine7l,

Do post their pictures and their user names on this website. Jackson, please at minimum ban these assholes from this site. I am very sorry Wolverine7l for what you are going thru. I too have a son with another woman (She is American) that will not let me see my son. She claims that he is not my son, but the kid is my clone. He is 100% me. But his mother will not put me in the birth certificate or let me in his life because I marry my ex-wives over her 16 years ago. My son is 16 years olds, I have met him and we have talk. He is a great kid and he even admits that I must be his father. When he turns 18 he will have the DNA test with me and if comes back positive. He will personally add me to the birth certificate saying that I am his father. But I am still [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] that for almost 15 years of my son life I have not been able to be in it because of what someone did to me back 16 years ago. How my son got conceive I will tell another day. That itself will show to what extent women will go to get even with someone.

But Wolverine7l do not give up in trying to get your son, because he is the only thing that will say you were on this Planet.

Sorry, If I have ramble to much.

El Cubanito

Damn this pisses me off, Wolverine. I HATE stories of people who try to do the right thing and help someone out, and as a reward they get royally screwed.

I couldn't agree more about these guys getting banned from the site. And I dont blame you for not ever wanting to come onto another site again.

Has anyone traveled to the DR using a birth certificate and photo ID? Anyone know anything about this?

I have done so for years. Last year the US immigration booth at Miami airport said I could no longer do so after Jan 1, 03 but I kept on doing so and no problems. That way my passport does not get too full of stamps and there is less hassle by them noting that I travel alot to other countries.

W71,

Buena surte mi amigo.

Just heard that Delta is offering direct flights from JFK to Santo Domingo for $109 each way. It looks like you have to book before February 6th to get this price.

DfB

Has anyone tried cialis? Which is better viagra or cialis? I plan on being in the DR soon and want to be prepared. Also is cialis or viagra available in the DR without a prescription?

Tn-gman,

Though I have never tried Cialis, I have used Viagara, both are availablie in the DR without a prescription. I just noticed the past month or two, Cialis present in our local Pharmacy down here in DR.

I have heard that both Cialis and Levitra are more potent with less side effects than Viagra, but don't have any facts to substantiate. I have heard that they are also both more expensive than Viagra. I have never taken any of these pharmaceuticals, so I cannot endorse any of them for efficacy, etc.

Hi,

I will go down to SDQ in 4 weeks. Can someone tell me the prices of viagra or cialis in DR.

Regards Chris

Viagra DR price average is about 1100 pesos or $6 per pill. Also, you can ask for generic which is about $2 per pill.

Cialis - If anyone has used would appreciate a comparison to V. Do you take one pill note if 10 or 20? Does it work for 24 hours, 2 days etc.

Appreciate the input.

Thanks Frank

I just purchased 10 (20 mg) cialis from prescriptionkeywest.com for 14.30 per pill (including shipping). The recommended dosage esp. starting out is 10mg so I figure I will try 1/2 or maybe even 1/3 and see how it goes. I will give a report on how it works next week. I will be hitting the DR wednesday. This website is great though and I have used them before for vigara. They shipped o/n.

I assume the earlier post regarding Viagra price in DR was a typo, at 1100 pesos a pill. You can get it for less than 300 pesos in selected pharmacies, best prices on the other side of the bridge, away from tourist areas of Gazcue, Colonial Zone etc.

Hey all,

Our trip to Sosua is coming up quick, 6 buddies going down for some fun in March. What's up with phones, can you get international long distance?

Thanks,

Foxman

hey Tn-gman,

I was wondering that link you posted http://www.prescriptionskeywest.com/. Do you need a physican prescription to order cialis?

I just loaded my 370th picture. I have about 1,000 more. Give me some feedback via PM. Shall i continue??

Gentlemen,

I have been reading WSG for years and what I learned here was of great help when I planned my trip to Amsterdam! Now that have saved some fun money, I am thinking about a 7 day trip to a new place around Mar 27 - Apr 5. I liked being able to easily locate the girls in AMS, but thought they were overpriced and 15 minutes wasn't nearly enough time.

I've thought about Thailand, but girls from the Caribbean and South America are looking hot! Thank for posting the pictures by the way.

My question is where do you think would be the best place to go? I've read many postings and I've changed my mind about where to go at least 10 times! Does anyone have a good comparsion of each major place? Also, if I chose DR, what city would be the best. I want easy access to a lot of hot women and of course would like good prices on everything (sex, hotel, food, etc). I'd like ST, LT, BBBJ, and anal might be nice too. What do you think? Feel free to PM me.

Thank you,

Nefarious

From what most people are saying, Sousa seems like the best palce to go in the DR. Would anyone agree or disagree with that?

Also, through a Google search, I found a place online with plenty of pictures of Sousa Beach. This looks like such a beautiful place!

Any last minute suggestions? I am making my reservations soon!

Thanks,

Nefarious

I have been to many destinations. Brazil and Thailand top the list. The girls and atmosphere in Thailand is unique and in my opinion the best experience if you like asian women. But the plane ride is torture! Brazil to is great the women better looking and better at sex. It is a little more expensive then Thailand and the airplane is long but doable. Either Brazil or Thailand require an extended stay. But in my opinion the DR is spectacular! About a 3 hour plane ride. Women are beautiful with all flavors. I love it because it is a long weekend trip. The women of Santo Domingo are the pretties I think. If you want the true monger experience Sosua gives you the beach and other mongers to hang out with. And I thin Boca Chica is making a comeback. A site you may want to loook at is mygirlfriendexperience.com it gives updated information on all major destinations. I like it because it is current all the time.

Sosua is NOT the best place in the Dominican Republic.

I'd rather stay in the capital. There's more variety and there's more places to go things to do. Also it's up to you really whether you will have fun or not. Because you can have fun almost in any place of the island (Yes even Haiti).

Sosua just makes it easier to find working girs since it's gotten the rep of being a meat market. But you can find way more girls in the capital.

Go to Remington Palace and ask for Kathy, she has one of the nicest asses I have ever seen. But go early else she will be gone by the time you get there.

NEF: You can't go wrong in Thailand even on a bad day if you can handle the 20+ hour flight and if you fancy the Asian look. I really don't know how anything could be better than the land of smiles. But having said that, I too am just beginning to look at DR. I've never been so can't compare. I like the consistantly larger breast sizes of the DR girls, the fact that they do all-nighters like Thailand, the prices are still reasonable, the shorter flight, and the fact that one of my favorite alltime experiences was with a DR girl in Costa Rica. I had intended to check the postings of regulars in the DR section BUT

*******, has 1450 postings! How can a guy possibly go through that much material to see if he has ever been to Thailand??? So I'm just going to post the question to you. I to am wondering what the comparison is between DR and Thai experience? You seem to be the expert on DR. I enjoy the $ value and relaxed yet in your face mongering of the Thai sceen. Everything is so easy and in-expensive there and the selection is virtually endless. There are a few reading these pages wanting a comparison. ALSO, I know I speak for everyone when I say "Hell yes keep the pix coming buddy" they are great! Thanks for your numerous reports as well. WL

Wanderlust,

I have been to both several times. What you stated about LOS is absolutly true. Thailand is the best because of the sex scene being "the scene" and the variety. But I find the different types of girls and larger breasts and asses very appealing. Add in a 3 hour flight plus change from the east coast and DR equals LOS. I preferr a shorter 3 to 4 day trip 4 to 6 times a year to the anual or twice a year trip to LOS. The beaches are much better in DR then LOS and the weather is better; not quite as hot. Plus each destination in DR offers a little different scene. Try it though it is not the same it is just as wonderful.

Mongering destinations compared using a baseball analogy:

Dominican Republic is Double A Ball. Lots of beauty women & relatively in expensive & lets not forget 3 to 5 hrs away from most places. Some crime, but what can you expect, its a poor country.

Argentina, Brazil, Colombia and Venezuela are Triple A Ball. Soooo many sexy women, but about 8 hrs away and more expensive, makes it hard for a quick weekend trip. Crime level is higher than DR.

Asia, the Philippines, and Europe, are Major Leagues. Cannot enjoy either of these destinations on a quick weekend getaway. The possibilities are endless, need lots of time and money, a short trip would just be a tease.

This is short but sweet, left out alot of places, but this is only a comparsion from places I've been, cannot comment on others.

Dr Travel Man
Estoy Negro, Thank you both. I've got to wholeheartedly agree with the girls being much hotter in my opinion. I am totally in love with the big breast/round ass thing. Not much of that in Asia. What I mainly use as criteria is price. Girls and hotels/food are cheap in Thailand just as they should be in a 3rd world country. Contrarily I've had girls in the USA consistently less expensive than all the latin countries I've been to so far. That is not good. Same for Lodging in most of the countries. I can get the prices for girls from the posts, but it's alittle more difficult to compare hotel prices becuase one can't check the room out for comparisons. Can you guys compare for me Thai hotel price with DR price for comparable room accomodations. I tend to stay in 3 star type places. OH!, Is there good River fishing there? Inland fishing trips? Thanks, WL

Hotels:

I usually stay in 3 to 4 stars. I find the hotel situation in DR to be 2 discussions. SD it will run you about 50 a night for what you are looking for. I have found the hotels listed in the section to be fine. So rooms will be about 15 to 20 dollars a night more than LOS. In Sosua the rooms you get are a little worse for the same price if guest friendly, but the "scene" is more wide open like LOS (but the girls are prettier in SD).

If you like the baseball analogy I think Brazil and LOS are the major leagues just one has the DH and the other doesnt LOL. The DR is in my opinion Triple A especially with the peso where it is. Plus it is so diverse from SD to Boca to Sosua to Santiago each is a little different. Like I said before checkout mygirlfriendexperience.com.

DRTravelman.

OH Geez I should have known! I went to that site and it was a pay site. Guess what? The guys name is.............Travelman!!!!
Nice try friend, i won't bother to point out that Jackson doesn't allow such stuff, but I do thank you (not joking) for the free info you posted here for me, it is helpful. I'm more of an adventurist sort who prefers to travel alone or with a friend without much prep. Just the name of the most promising town and a hotel for the first night.
Brazil huh....? ain't been there either. I'll check it out. Thanks

Well it is still true LOL. I would go to Santo Domingo on my first visit. If you also want the beach Bocha chica is a short ride. SD has so many women to pick from and so beautiful.

Just a suggestion. Get an email account, something thru Yahoo or MSN, and when you ar down there get them to get and email account too, so that 1) You don't have to give them a phone number, 2) You don't have to spend money calling. 3) You don't have them able to ask you for a cell so you can "call them anytime you want".

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[i]Just a suggestion. Get an email account, something thru Yahoo or MSN, and when you ar down there get them to get and email account too, so that 1) You don't have to give them a phone number, 2) You don't have to spend money calling. 3) You don't have them able to ask you for a cell so you can "call them anytime you want".[/i]


[red] I have a Canadian calling card and it costs me 12 cents a minute to call. You assume they all know how to use the internet. [/red]

You would be surprised about what they can and can not do Jimmy. Many of them actually read these pages. And there's tons of cyber cafes all over the place. They charge less than $0.50 USD per hour.

IMHO, most of them don't read English! Though maybe it's possible that this website is available in spanish. Also, I don't know of any cyber cafes that charge only 50 cents us per hour! I'd like to know where these are located at?! Plus, of the 50 plus girls I met on my forrays to the north and south coasts, only 2 were amenable to giving an email address in addition to their phone#! Unfortunately, electronic communication has not been embraced by many of them yet. Finally, I use a Florida Green Card and Merengue card to call the ladies in the DR. It's free for them to receive calls no matter what type of phone they're using in the DR. The phone cards that I use here in South Florida have no connection fees, except when using a pay phone, and rates at under 5 cents per minute!

Dotado wrote:
You would be surprised about what they can and can not do Jimmy. Many of them actually read these pages.

You are correct, I would be VERY surprised to hear these girls can use computers and that they read these pages!
After 5 trips I have found very few girls who know how to use a computer (all that do access the internet via a spanish language isp) and none that have ever heard of the wsg. On my last trip I asked a girl for her email address on the computer for her correo electronico - and she said "Now, what's a computer again?"
Cheers

Wow, never thought they would be able to get over on you guys so easily. Not even sure how to start debunk some of the stuff you guys have claimed here.

1) You could have 100 trips to the Dominican Republic, and yet I am Dominican, so which one do you think knows the country better?

2) Cyber cafe's are all over the place, hell when I was coming back on Feb 19, I spent 2 hours at the Santo Domingo airport(SDQ) and there's a cyber cafe there. $25 pesos per hour. At the time the Dollar was about $45 Pesos to $1 USD.

3) Women down there won't want you to know they know more than you think they know. Sometimes they do just to guide you around by the nose. but overall they like the power of you under estimating them.

4) So much so do you guys underestimate them that I'll give you an example. Some of you claim that they don't know english. Guess what one of them showed me around Januarya 15, 2004?

She showed me this website: http://www.freetranslation.com/ .
While not a perfect translation. It does give them an idea of what you are writing about them.

Also. Thre's another thread on this board about how one of the guys got a call from the girl he wrote about in here.

And as a last nail, If they didn't know about computers and the internet, wouldn't it be easier for you to post photos of them? But they tend not to like people taking their photos because their friends and their families might see them.

Oh and in case you think I am just talking out of my ass:

Telephones - main lines in use: 709,000 (1997
Telephones - mobile cellular: 130,149 (1997)
Internet Service Providers (ISPs): 24 (2000)
Internet users: 186,000 (2002)

Notice how there's more internet users than cell phones?

The Dominican Republic has so many internet users that they are ranked 78 out of 203 countries.

But you keep under estimating them.

Reminds me of a great quote from one of my favorite movies.

Don't get too cocky my boy. No matter how good you are don't ever let them see you coming. That's the gaffe my friend. You gotta keep yourself small. Innocuous. Be the little guy. You know, the nerd... the leper... shit-kickin' surfer. Look at me.
[stops and pauses]

Underestimated from day one. You'd never think I was a master of the universe, now would ya?

Devils advocate. John Milton.

Also. An advantage of getting them into using or giving you an email adress is that you can have them send you photos or even chat with them sometimes using webcams.

[i]You would be surprised about what they can and can not do Jimmy. Many of them actually read these pages. And there's tons of cyber cafes all over the place. They charge less than $0.50 USD per hour.[/i]


[red] Lowest rates I found were $2 an hour and I have been to over 35 cafes![/red]

*

Dotado wrote:
1) You could have 100 trips to the Dominican Republic, and yet I am Dominican, so which one do you think knows the country better?


Ans: - ******* does!

Lowest rates I found were $2 an hour and I have been to over 35 cafes!

You must be going to tourist trap cafes.

But in the 6 weeks I just spent there, I never paid more than $25 pesos per hour.

[i]Wow, never thought they would be able to get over on you guys so easily. Not even sure how to start debunk some of the stuff you guys have claimed here.

1) You could have 100 trips to the Dominican Republic, and yet I am Dominican, so which one do you think knows the country better? [red] Being Dominican and living elsewhere or going to DR yearly? Unsure what you mean. [/red]

2) Cyber cafe's are all over the place, hell when I was coming back on Feb 19, I spent 2 hours at the Santo Domingo airport(SDQ) and there's a cyber cafe there. $25 pesos per hour. At the time the Dollar was about $45 Pesos to $1 USD.

[red] Maybe its just that one. In Jarabocao it was about a dollar an hour. [/red]


3) Women down there won't want you to know they know more than you think they know. Sometimes they do just to guide you around by the nose. but overall they like the power of you under estimating them.

[red] Could it be some are really as dumb as they act because I have met some that you say there are, but not all are that smart. [/red]

4) So much so do you guys underestimate them that I'll give you an example. Some of you claim that they don't know english. Guess what one of them showed me around Januarya 15, 2004?

She showed me this website: http://www.freetranslation.com/ .
While not a perfect translation. It does give them an idea of what you are writing about them.

[red] All the internet cafes in Sosua and Caberete have that program. [/red]

Also. Thre's another thread on this board about how one of the guys got a call from the girl he wrote about in here.

And as a last nail, If they didn't know about computers and the internet, wouldn't it be easier for you to post photos of them? But they tend not to like people taking their photos because their friends and their families might see them.

Oh and in case you think I am just talking out of my ass:

Telephones - main lines in use: 709,000 (1997)

[red] Population is 10,000,000 so thats .7% [/red]

Telephones - mobile cellular: 130,149 (1997)
Internet Service Providers (ISPs): 24 (2000)
Internet users: 186,000 (2002)

Notice how there's more internet users than cell phones?

The Dominican Republic has so many internet users that they are ranked 78 out of 203 countries.

But you keep under estimating them.

Reminds me of a great quote from one of my favorite movies.

Don't get too cocky my boy. No matter how good you are don't ever let them see you coming. That's the gaffe my friend. You gotta keep yourself small. Innocuous. Be the little guy. You know, the nerd... the leper... shit-kickin' surfer. Look at me.
[stops and pauses]

Underestimated from day one. You'd never think I was a master of the universe, now would ya?

Devils advocate. John Milton.

Also. An advantage of getting them into using or giving you an email adress is that you can have them send you photos or even chat with them sometimes using webcams.

[red] Many good points here but some things can go either direction. [/red]

[/i]

>Being Dominican and living elsewhere or going to DR yearly? Unsure what you mean.

I keep more informed about DR than people who just show up to monger. I still have family down there. I can tell you that many of you don't know alot about the country that would make life a hell of a lot easier for you. Me I have a business card from my uncle with his cell phone and home number. I show it to any officer be it police or military and they salute me and walk away. Never have my bags open at airport either. (Helps my uncle is a 2 star general).

>Maybe its just that one. In Jarabocao it was about a dollar an hour.

No it's not just that one. I mentioned that one in particular because if I mentioned the other ones you wouldn't know where they are. Not to mention that ussually airport prices are more expensive.

Go near the Loteria there's antoehr cyber cafe by there. Also another one by KM 10 of Independecia also under $1 USD per hour.

try this link "http://www.datamovil.net.do/" to send a free text message to cell phones in RD.

Too cool

I am off for my first trip to the DR on 3/17. I am not sure who to contact with this, but I think this message board needs a section or new topic called, MONGER DICTIONARY. It would be a very useful topic for important terms relevant to a DR visit.

If someone can make this happen, please do so asap.

Otherwise if someone is very experienced in mongerism and the language lingo that goes with it, post up the most relevant terms or email them to me at [blue][Email address deleted by Admin][/blue]

Thanks in advance.

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Question?

My guys and I are headed to DR in a few weeks. What's the best city to fly into if we wanna be near the MOST beautiful working girls?

Not the high mileage veterans. We want to deal with the best of the best. Video quality girls.

A Monger dictionary [:-)))]...

You know, I've actually been thinking about a "multilingual" (no pun intended, or maybe so) monger dictionary for a while now. And while my professional line of work would make me supremely qualified to do so (linguistics and translation) in addition to my "field research", it's the same job responsibilities that unfortunately keep me so busy that I never seem to have the time to get down and just do it. But I promise, whenever I get a free moment, I'll put my (cunni)linguist skills to work for all you guys benefits, finally. After all, can't even remember how many girls have asked me to translate their negotiations with potential clients, once they figured out what I do for a living. I am serious.

Note to Jackson: how about a language section for sex-related terms on this site? After all, sex is multi-language. Just an idea.

Video Quality

Well it really depends on your taste.

If its your first time in DR and don't have friends that have been there a couple of time and know there way around, then first stop should be Sousa
(POP airport) and then work your way away from Sousa.

Without a doubt, I think Santiago is a video choice.

A couple of things, must know spanish, in Puerta Plata & Sousa, some women speak some english & willing to help. Santiago is a city, much bigger which translates into more women, clubs like Illusion, Casa Blanca & Passions are really nice, but spanish is a must. Also having a car is the way to go in Santiago, POP & Sousa you can get away without it. The further you get away from tourist areas, the women are sweeter & non americanized, you can get away with murder if your half way fluent.

Cannot comment on Santa Domingo, going there on march 26 for the first time.

McNasty,

You have asked a question to which they may be many answers. But in my opinion and many trips the best looking girls are in Santo Domingo. The city has the most variety and ranges from the darkest to lightest girls and of course lots to choose from.

Lots of queries about where the best looking women are in the Dominican Republic. I have my own personal favorite little out-of-the-way towns in the country, but generally the best melting pot is without a doubt Santo Domingo. And I will explain why. In this country, the goal of most young people is to move from the country to Santo Domingo. They think this is where they will find a better life. The Dominican Republic is a backward place. Outside the bigger cities such as Santo Domingo and Santiago, and away from what I like to call tourist areas, is without a doubt some of the most beautiful country you can imagine. In United States, for example, obviously a more advanced country, the people have recognized the value to peace and quiet and beauty away from big metropolitan centres. Just the opposite here, they don't get it. So what you get is a mass exodus of girls from all over the country heading to Santo Domingo. Name a place: Mao, Moca, Jarabacoa, Santiago, Higuey, Cotui, Azua, Bani, Barahona, San Francisco, San Juan etc, etc, etc. You will run into them in Santo Domingo. They are everywhere.

Hope this helps.

They have a saying in Dominican Republic.

"La Capital es capital, y todo lo otro es monte."

Means: "The capital is the capital, everything esle is boondocks"

So yeah the goal of everyone is to go to the capital and either make money to move back home or move to the capital to live.

For yoru first time I would recomend people go to the capital.

After that, travel around the Island.

McNasty,

If you do not find someone to guide you around. Contact Mr Particular. I used him as a guide. He was excellent! He truely spent his entire time making sure I had a great time. Plus he was a great conversationalist for dinner.

MONGER DICTIONARY V 1.0

If we process enough entries in that forum over time, I will organize it into a nice .pdf document available for download to any monger, rookie or seasoned pro. I am a designer by trade so I can put something functional together in no time. Maybe even add a nice MAP of the DR, including Sosua, PP, Santiago.

I cant wait to get to the DR to see some of this, up close and personal.

Hi people,

I want to know if there are regular STRIP CLUBS in the Dominican Republic and also if they do "Lap-dance" and how much is the charge. I would really appreciate it if one of you DR gurus address my question, as I asked this question a while ago and no one seem to answer. Thanx again :-)

[i]Hi people,

I want to know if there are regular STRIP CLUBS in the Dominican Republic and also if they do "Lap-dance" and how much is the charge. I would really appreciate it if one of you DR gurus address my question, as I asked this question a while ago and no one seem to answer. Thanx again :-)[/i]


[red] Crystale in Puerto Plata and Flamingo in Sosua. Lapdancing is more money then actually banging them. [/red]

Gadey: If you scroll back on the DR boards, you likely won't find much 411 on lap dancing. That's because mongers don't go to the strip clubs in the DR for lapdances; if you know what I mean!

Hey guys,

I got a question? Yes I would like to do some mongering but I would also love to enjoy somthing differen't than Boca Chica no Jimmy I do not want to go to the north coast. I fly into SD in August for 10 days. I would really appreciate it if you had some ideas.

Thank you in Advance

Sluth: scroll back on the SD board for the past 4 months. Plenty of 411 there to help you out!

What is the deal with the customs agents demanding money at the airport. I was talking with someone today and we agreed that it isn't worth having problems over $5, but WTF?

Gpiper:
Sluth: scroll back on the SD board for the past 4 months. Plenty of 411 there to help you out!


It seems to me that as a general rule the mongers on this board are muy perezoso. (very lazy) Its hard for me to believe that anyone could be wanting of any more information about the capitol than what was posted by Gpiper in his extensive January/February '04 reports. Everyone should do themselves a favor and check out these reports before scheduling a trip to the south coast. As usual Gpiper your reporting is objective, unbiased and complete! Reading these reports will save everybody alot of repetitive questions and inquiries. :)
Cheers.
FORD

Reuters News 03/25/2004
$40 million US Dollars to be disbursed tomorrow

There should be many dollars circulating on the foreign exchange market as of tomorrow, when the Interamerican Development Bank (IDB) has planned to disburse a first US$40-million installment of assistance being offered to the country. According to a report in El Caribe, Technical Secretary to the Presidency Carlos Desprael said that the new IDB loan would help stabilize the exchange rate. The IMF had set a rate of US$40 to RD$1 for its stabilization program, but this has not been achieved, with the peso closer to the US$46-to-RD$1 level yesterday.

.......It looks like with the election only 6 weeks away Mejia is once again trying to shore up the currency. See if it works this time - I wouldn't bet on it. With national instability leading up to the May 16th vote I wouldn't be surprised if we see 50 RDP to 1 again real soon. Just my opinion.
Cheers.

Gadey,

There are a few places that have lapdances in Santo Domingo:

Jazzys: Strip club with some nice looking women. They have lapdances, VIP and also take out service etc. I believe a basic lap dance is about 250 pesos, but it has been a while.

Sutra: Venezuelan dancers. Lapdances in VIP room but I beliee minimal contact and no take out.

Both of these clubs are on the other side of the bridge. Jazzys is on aenida espana and sutra is across from eagles on san isidro.

Monaco: Not as nice as the two above clubs, can find some diamonds in the rough though. Not sure of prices for LDs.

Doll House mostly less attractive dancers from Canada and FSU, Dominicans like it as to them Canadian chicks are "exotic" not recommended unless you did bleach blondes with bolt ons etc.

Both Monaco and Doll house are on the Malecon. Monaco is just past the colonial zone on the right hand side, and doll house is further down past vvesuvio etc.

Ford wrote:

"It seems to me that as a general rule the mongers on this board are muy perezoso"

Perhaps, but I have questions at times that I can't get a definitive answer to. For example..Gpiper can quote us $1500rd fs take out, but another poster will swear that he had to pay $100us. I am not disbelieving Gpiper, but after a few posts of conflicting prices, mongers start to wonder, and then the questions arrive on this forum.

I can negotiate on my own easily, but I will admit that the prices one reads here seem to stray wildly from the prices one gets quoted in the "real world" of SD.

RW,

Keep in mind that a Dominican girl working as a checkout clerk in a grocery store, earns on the order of $160 US per MONTH working full time. While 1500RD (~$35) sounds like a great deal for an American tourist for FS, to a Dominican woman earning this amount in a few hours is an unbelievable amount of money. On the other hand, some tourists thinking in terms of their home country, could easily be enticed to pay$100US or more for the same service.

There is an absurd amount of variability in prices in this market. My hunch is that there are deals consummated for prices ranging from less than $5 to more than $200 for the exact same service. It's all a matter of timing, negotiating skills, desperation, luck, etc. Remember this is not a highly organized, competitive market with thin bid-ask spreads like one finds in the trading pits of Chicago.

DfB

Greeting everyone,

A buddy of mine and I are planning a trip towards the end of June. Although I have a passport, my friend does not.

Has anyone recently traveled using only a drivers license and birth certificate run into any problems?

RearWindow:
It is too bad that you doubt me! I don't know what else to tell you that I haven't already posted here the past few months. I didn't make up any of my posts. I often negotiated 1,500 pesos for minimum 3 hr. fs take out during my trip to SD last Nov. - Dec., at almost every place that I went! And I went to many locations in SD! Some MP's I negotiated as low as 900 pesos for fs outcall for multiple hours and pops! I don't think I engaged in any great negotiatng tactics; as a few times I went to some places with 2 fellow wsg members who negotiated the same rate as I did! As a matter of fact, if I had gone with a highly experienced monger like *******, I'd bet he would get an even lower rate then I usually got! Anyway, on my next trip which will happen hopefully some time this year, if you happen to be in SD at the same time, I''ll be more than happy to show around for free and try to help negotiate a similar price for you! Just know I can't promise that the prices will be the same as they were when I last went. As you know market prices can be affected by external factors!

Rear Window wrote:
For example..Gpiper can quote us $1500rd fs take out, but another poster will swear that he had to pay $100us.
I am not disbelieving Gpiper, but after a few posts of conflicting prices, mongers start to wonder, and then the questions arrive on this forum.


R.W. I read your remarks and I'm following your logic to a point but, if you doubt the veracity of some of the posts on this board than what is the point of the additional questions? What will they accomplish? If Gpiper says he paid 1500 pesos ($34) and another poster said he paid $100 then you can deduce that with tireless, persistent negotiating you can get the price down to $34 as well.

This is what I would conclude from this.
Cheers.

It was 1500 pesos for the night during Jan-Feb for me too.

I went to Tabu, Lapsus, Remington Palace, Casa modelos, Casa Theresa, Denoche and Monaco and none of those laces ever charged me mroe than 1500 pesos for the night... everythign was below that.. and I really doubt that by March/April the price has gone up to $100 USD.

You are getting scammed if you spend that much.

Cops don't make $8000 a month as their base salary. Hell even private school teachers barelly make that.

So for you to pay some girl $4000 for 4-6 hours, well thats crazy.

Sorry guys, didn't mean to offend anyone here about their veracity or negotiating skills.

I guess I should have more carefully phrased my pricing comments. I don't doubt Gpiper's pricing reports, with his wealth of experience, and I also know that I will use those price points aggressively when I return to SD in late May. I just found it interesting that the MP girl's in SD, who undeniably are of superior quality compared to BC girls, could be had for little more than their BC counterparts. The SD quotes started out very high in comparison to BC, and I would have thought that the common ground would be significantly different. Perhaps i am giving too much importance to the quality of the girl, ie avg. girl = avg.money/hot girl = more money, as opposed to the economic reality of the business.

I suppose that familiarity with the girls or the management of a place can play into the pricing, along with the determination of the buyer. Sounds a lot like buying a used vehicle.....

Gpiper. thanks for the kind offer, if our paths cross I will take you up on that, cervesa's on me.

[i]Rear Window wrote:
For example..Gpiper can quote us $1500rd fs take out, but another poster will swear that he had to pay $100us. [red] I have met GPiper and he tells it like it is. [/red]
I am not disbelieving Gpiper, but after a few posts of conflicting prices, mongers start to wonder, and then the questions arrive on this forum. [red] You have to counter offer and after I do this with 4-5 chicas, the one that needs money goes with me. [/red]



R.W. I read your remarks and I'm following your logic to a point but, if you doubt the veracity of some of the posts on this board than what is the point of the additional questions? What will they accomplish? If Gpiper says he paid 1500 pesos ($34) and another poster said he paid $100 then you can deduce that with tireless, persistent negotiating you can get the price down to $34 as well.

[red] I find that I can get most for $60-$70 range. [/red]

This is what I would conclude from this.
Cheers.[/i]

RearWindow wrote:

"Sounds a lot like buying a used vehicle....."

Had to smile about that one, because in a way, that's exactly what you're buying. Still, the combination of the words "used" and "vehicle" in this context is just priceless, IMHO [:-))))].

Gents,

I am thinking about making my first trip to the DR. I am a vet of Colombia and love it there, but all of the postings here have got me thinking I might be up for a change of pace. I am looking at a possible trip the second week of May and have no idea which of the areas would be best (STO Domingo, Sosua, etc). Also, any tips on cheap fares to get down there?

Thanks,

B

A monger's table of contents, worthy advice and info.

http://www.expat-in-paradise.com/monger/monger_toc.html

[B]Teamguy,[/B]

If you have never been to the Dominican Republic, I recommend starting out with Sosua. You can walk to almost anywhere you need to go, otherwise consider a motoconch for 20 pesos (about .50¢ US). The Palace is a good stay, clean with available chicas right outside your room. The owner, John, is also very accomodating with knowledge about the area and the game. There are more than enough chicas to go around in Sosua and if you're in the right place at the right time, you just might find a really hot one.

[B]Here is some other worthy advice you might find helpful.[/B]

Arriving at the airport: Chances are, they’ll try to shake you down for a few dollars. Bring a US $5.00 bill or two with you and you’ll be set. When you take your bags through customs, just as the guy was about to search my bags he mentioned that they could easily pass for $5.00 so I was ok with it just to move on through, no sense in having someone ruffle through my things. Not that I had anything to hide. Do yourself a favor, grab your own bags from the customs table and carry them out yourself otherwise you’ll have a local looking for a handout. Jesus picked us up from the airport, holding a Sosua Palace sign out in front. $15 a carload is the going rate with was fine with me, especially split among 3 guys.

Exchanging money: Super Super Liquors, just a few blocks past Europa on the corner. Good rates and the gentlemen speaks English. On Wednesday the exchange was 48:1 and on Friday it was 42:1 Note: You're better off exchanging money during the week as the rates tend to go down on the weekend.

Eating on a daily basis: Mora Mai, the Lobster Fra Diavlo is amazing and Alex (owner's wife) is a beautiful host. Simply said, I wouldnt eat anywhere else! I'd rather spend my time enjoying my vacation than possibly getting sick eating something that wasnt prepared adequately. Although a few of the boys from Jersey on the second floor enjoyed the chicken from the stand on the corner of the block.

Bottled water: Don’t drink the tap water or you’ll spend your vacation in the bathroom! When you exchange money, do yourself a favor and buy several bottles for your refridgerator.

Sosua Beach: Just a bit past "The Lost Gringo Bar" you'll find "Lobo" (a local) renting chairs, tables, umbrellas and more. Take care of him and he'll take care of you! If you go into the water, he'll look over your stuff as well so you dont have to worry about it.

Needs at the Palace: You can purchase cold "Presidentes" right at the Palace for $1.00 US each, delivered right to your refrigerator. You'll find two locals, who will get you just about anything you need, from food to liquor. Take care of them and they'll do anything for you, they can be trusted as well. Otherwise you wouldnt find them around the Palace.

Traveling on a motoconch in Sosua: 20 pesos, no more!

I disagree with paying DR customs agents money not to search your bags. You are just fueling their corrupt illegal scam and giving them that much more reason to continue. Its just like giving money to beggars. The word gets out that the white man with pesos is feeling sorry for them and before you know it the street is covered with them. If the bums are not successful begging, they will move on. You can call me cold hearted, but it is proven that giving panhandlers money is a very selfish act of the contributor because they think they are doing good, but they are just trying to make themselves feel better. Sort of like sinning and then going to confession.

MarcoNJ,
That link is great! Top rate info on the hows and whys of our "craft". And so many of the points rang true. Some things apparently never change.

BTW,I have never had DR customs even touch my bags on my trips, let alone ask for money. This has been at SDQ ,however.

With regards to Bill's comments regarding customs extorting money.

I'm planning a trip for June. Being a Black man from America, does that mean there's less of a chance that they would try to get money from me? I will refuse to pay if they try. They can search me all day if they want. I'm curious to hear from the other Black guys on this board what their experiences have been when dealing with customs.

[i]I disagree with paying DR customs agents money not to search your bags. You are just fueling their corrupt illegal scam and giving them that much more reason to continue. Its just like giving money to beggars. The word gets out that the white man with pesos is feeling sorry for them and before you know it the street is covered with them. [red] They can get fired so don't give them shit! [/red] If the bums are not successful begging, they will move on. You can call me cold hearted, but it is proven that giving panhandlers money is a very selfish act of the contributor because they think they are doing good, but they are just trying to make themselves feel better. Sort of like sinning and then going to confession.[/i]

I was asked for money from a customs agent during Christmas 2003 in Santo Domingo airport. I told him I paid for the tourist card I am not paying again, plus my spanish is limited. He let me go.

I was driving in SD during February and was extorted by a policeman for the old not wearing my seat belt and running a red light trick. He wanted 5,000 pesos. I talked him down to 100 pesos and 7us dollars. I was not going to give a crooked cop all my money. I had about a few hundred dollars on me. I am a black man from NYC. Crocked cops don't scare me.

MarcoNJ

Good looking on the advice and the website. I travel to DR often and this is good info one can't do without. I will use it like a29th. I got a few numbers and there is always holly roller uses the bible. I already dated a chick that tried to rob me and run, since I questioned her every crisis and strange movement she bolted. You live and learn.
I will be in DR from April 22nd-29th. I will try to explore Santiago.

Very few of those guys speak english. I have never been stopped. A good rule of thumb is to walk up and say" high", with a smile. If he asks something in spanish, just say "I don't speak spanish".

If you are bringing in alot of things you will notice that there are always a couple of guys standing around just as you enter customs. There looking for money to get you through quick! I learned this from an exgirlfriend, never had o use them.

Hey fellas,

I need a favor if possible. I want to know if any of the New York area mongers who are traveling down to DR can bring back a bottle of the brugal "Unico" or the "Siglio de Oro" I will pay you for the effort. The price when I was there just 2 weeks ago was about 13USD equivalent in pescos for the "Siglio de Oro" and about 38USD equivalent for the "Unico". I will probably make a trip in about a month on my own but if I can get it sooner the better. I will give you 30USD and 70USD respectivly for the bottles because you simply can not find those particular bottles anywhere in the U.S.A. I hope I am not breaking any rules by asking for someone to bring back a bottle of liquor and if I am I am sorry.

Great gavola. . . .I think you have em reversed the Siglo De Oro is about 40 bucks etc. Never heard of unico but I don't drink Rum.

I will be heading back down fairly soon, just not sure when. . .plus I tend to stay down for a long time etc, so others might be a faster turn around etc.

If not, I am sure we can work something out etc.

peep. . .i am as white as you can possibly get and live in the dr. i got pulled over 3 times during xmas.

i didn't pay a dime. here is the trick. tell them that paying a "fine" in the street doesn't sound right to you.

you would like to go to the us consulate to ask your brother who works there. . . .

they get pissed and leave you alone. i am 3 for 3 with that!

The "siglo de oro" was around 500 pecos and the "unico" was 1600. Right in the Brugal store on jfk blvd in S.D. and the peco was trading at 43 at the time, so check the math and I think you will see I am right.

I flew into POP last week and a custom agent asked me for money. I pulled out my trump card, ie my diplomatic passport (I work for my Ministry of Foreign Affairs), and the agent apologized and waved me through. I am not supposed to use my diplomatic passport on private trips but I take it with me just for those cases (and to avoid paying the departure tax).

But the other trick that works everytime (at least it has for me), for both police officers and crooked cab drivers, is this. Before you go to any of those developing countries, try to find out the name of the head of the national police (the name of the Ministry of the Interior is too public and too obvious) that you can usually find on the internet. If anyone tries to mess with you, just say, if possible in the local language, that Mr XXX, that you last met only two days ago, would not be pleased if he knew what was happening.

I tried this last in Moldova some three weeks ago and already used it several times in the Middle East, Russia and Central America, and I can tell you that the result is immediate. The cab driver quotes you a decent price immediately and the police officers just lets you go.

I'm planing a trip to the DR soon and as part of this "well-planed" trip I want to know a few things regarding., read along :). My trip is split between getting Pros and Non-pros.

(The plan)

I would say I'm about an average looking 25yr lightskin black-american guy and would pass for P-rican or even DR as a matter of fact. I have made friends with about 5 girls so far from a friendship/dating website I found. Some of the girls are o my MSN and we occationally chat and goof around.One of the girl strips for me on her web-cam often, she is 19 years old. Hmm, I wonder if she is not pimpin' herself at the side to pay for her home internet service. But again she claims she goes to university and even should me their school's website. Who knows if she is B-Sing. This leed me to thinking and regarding the whole "Transportation" question. my plan is to cruise aroung the campuses of UNIBE and other less expensive schools in a sport motor-bike. I'm thinking of buying the sport motobike in DR since I will be spending time there soon and in the future. Or should I invest in a car ? - Look at this way, a motorbike will get you imediate attention because of it's youthful appeal and colors. A car on the other hand will be more comfortable for the dating game and I can play my music loud enuff to get the attention. Fact is I know those DR girls are just like American girls when it comes to lifestyle, they wall want the so called "hot guy" , it's a worldwide epedemic ...lol... and I'm planing on playing that role there. I'm from the eastcoast and maybe I'm being bias about this whole MTV culture.

(The Question)

Will it be better to buy a car, rent a car, buy a motorbike ? ( NOT rent )

(1) Buy a car
(2) Rent a car
(3) Buy a morobike

General question :

What are the custom laws regarding shiping of a CAR or a MOTORBIKE ?

Thanks

1) Car>Motorcycle but SUV >all. Get a diesel vehicle.

2) Shipping a vehicle to DR coulr turn very expensive because customs is crooked, have you seen the postings about the shake downs at the airport? Now imagine if they had your car there and they had power about letitng you have it or not?

3) There's a limit as to how old a vehicle could be before they let you ship it.

4) Where would you store it when you went back to the states? How long or how often would you go back?

I would recomend you rent a car the first time you go.

That way you could use Cabanas. It's what my brother does. He gets into his car, then goes to visit my aunt, drops part of his clothes, and puts some in the trunk. Then goes and sees my aunt when he needs fresh clothes. Rest of the time he stays and sleeps in Cabanas. They are cheaper than having to stay at a hotel. And there is no problem about hotels allowing or not allowing women in.

Thanx "Dotado"

And will soon be hitting the Island and will surely take alot of pixs with my Digital cam. I shall paste the photos and report when I'm back since this website has been very informative.

cheers

Just a little thought about those thinking about moving to the DR. 1 bedroom condos around Puerto Plata /Sosua etc can be purchased for about 20,000US with a maintenance fee of less than 30US a month. You can also buy modest apartments in/near Santo Domingo for about the same price. If thinking about living near Santo Domingo a very inexpensive area is the Oriental Zone which is only about 15 minutes from Boca Chica. I have personally looked at 2 bedroom apartments for rent for about 200US a month and for sale for about 15,000US. There are also financial houses offering great rates of interest on US dollars and are reputable and much safer than banks. Depending on the amount of money placed there, you can achieve between 8-14percent compounded annually. Since this is a 3rd world country, never place all your eggs in one basket. I am planning to buy 3 condos, renting 2 out that are single bedroom/studio apartments, 1 2 bedroom condo for me, and having 60K invested in the DR and for safety about 10k left in the US. I plan on renting the condos out for between 200-250US a week and if they are rented out half the time, minus all fees (electricity, maintenance, etc) plus my interest on my money invested in the DR which will be about 600US monthly (7200USannually) I can survive modestly on a minimum of 1000US a month in the DR but desire to acheive about 1200-1400US a month in total profit. A family of 4 usually lives on less than 300US in the DR. Plus I still have to put a minimum of 300US in my IRA account at this time yearly, which will give me some extra money in about 25 years or so.

To Member #1553,

Someday I hope our paths cross and we meet. I would love to "pick your brain" as I too am planning to move to Latin America and quite possibly the "DR" someday. I now have only a three year time horizon left here in the U.S. If all goes according to plans I will be financially set and ready to bolt!

I priced the condominiums in the Campo Caribe resort in Sosua and Rino the manager is set on prices of $45,000 and up but long term rentals are possible for $350 per month for real stylish one -bedrooms in a "fairly" secure gated community. (plus the complex has an awesome pool!) He is greatly overpricing his new 2- bedrom "luxury" condominiums that are being built now at something like $96,000 usd.

John from the Palace is also a good contact on the north coast as he always seemingly has his "ears to the ground" looking for real estate development ideas and new purchases.

$200 per month for a 2-bedroom as you said is a great deal as long as its reasonably safe and secure. I agree with what I think was one of your posts a while back that said that the only people buying the Sosua/Cabarete luxury homes and townhomes at $250,000- $300,000 usd are rich and dopey (German?) tourists and are grossly overpaying!!
Cheers to all.

I do not know what you guys find in Dominican girls. [blue][Racial Expletive Deleted by Admin][/blue] As I can see it you got to be extremely desparate to go to such a length to get a piece of ass.

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What about the fact that it is blatantly racist and insensitive?!

Dominican women look just like monkeys??? Cork Sucker, I suggest you put your sheet and your hood back on and ride off into the night!

[blue]Hi,

Sorry, I didn't see the racists comments until it was reported to me.

Jackson[/blue]

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Hey [blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue],

Sounds like you are [blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue]. Some of these chicas look good. Some are dogs. Whats your problem? Why are you even looking at this web site if those are your beliefs? These guys enjoy the pussy and the women enjoy the money. It seems like there are much more important issues that you should be criticizing. Why waste your time on this? Also, I would hope that if there was a herpes problem, then it would be posted all over this board. [blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue].

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Dude,

Instead of making disparaging comments, why don't you leave this section of the board and focus on that dealing with Scandinavia (ie I take it that you are into blond/blue eyed girls)!

For my part, I will stick with mixed race latino girls. They have a sensuality that is unmatched, and the fact that this cannot be enjoyed by the racists of your type can only rejoice me!

Here's something that was sent to me by a friend (thanks, Bill!), regarding child prostitution and sex tourism in the DR:

http://www.ecpat.net/eng/Ecpat_inter/Publication/Other/English/Pdf_page/ecpat_sex_tourism_dom_rebublic.pdf

Based on 1996 findings, it's a paper in a series of similar studies conducted in a number of different countries (Cuba, Venezuela, Costa Rica, Goa, South Africa, Thailand). In case you're interested in the other ones, here they are:

http://www.ecpat.net/eng/Ecpat_inter/IRC/ecpat_public.asp

I'll provide detailed comments about some of the facts claimed in this publication later on, so right now, I'll only say that much: according to the report, prostitution is illegal in DR. It is NOT - only pimping is. Here is Article 334 of the Codigo Penal (Criminal Code) of the Dominican Republic (available in Spanish at http://www.suprema.gov.do/codigos/codigos.asp), in the version in effect in 1996:

"Art. 334.- (Modificado Ley No. 4999 de 1958). El que se haga reo de atentado contra las costumbres, favoreciendo o facilitando habitualmente la licencia o la corrupción de jóvenes de uno u otro sexo, que no hayan cumplido diez y ocho años, será castigado con prisión correccional de tres meses a un año, y multa de diez a cien pesos. Si la prostitución ha sido excitada, favorecida o proporcionada por los padres, tutores u otras personas encargadas de la vigilancia y cuidado del perjudicado, la pena será de seis meses a dos años de prisión y multa de veinte a doscientos pesos."

My translation:

"Art. 334 (modified pursuant to Law No. 4999, 1958). "Whoever is guilty of threatening morals by habitually promoting or facilitating the license or the corruption of young people of either sex who have yet to reach the age of eighteen years shall be punished by a correctional prison term between three months and one year, and a fine between ten and one hundred Pesos. In case prostitution was encouraged, promoted or provided by the parents, guardians or other persons in charge of the supervision or care of the injured party, the punishment shall be six months to two years of prison and a fine between twenty and two hundred pesos."

Says nothing about prostitution being illegal, IMHO.

Subsequently, this Paragraph was amended by Law 24-97 of 1997, as follows (info provided by a Dominican lawyer, Mr. Fabio M. Guzman: http://www.******************showthread.php?s=&threadid=15029):

”Será considerado proxeneta aquél o aquélla:

Primero: Que de cualquier manera ayuda, asista o encubra personas, hombres o mujeres con miras a la prostitución o al reclutamiento de personas con miras a la explotación sexual;
Segundo: El o la que del ejercicio de esa práctica reciba beneficios de la prostitución.
Tercero: El que relacionado con la prostitución no pueda justificar los recursos correspondientes a su tren de vida.
Cuarto: El o la que consienta a la prostitución de su pareja y obtenga beneficios de éllo;
Quinto: Que contrata, entrena o mantiene, aún con su consentimiento, una persona, ****** o mujer, aun mayor de edad, con miras a la prostitución, la entrega a la prostitución, o al desenfreno y relajación de las costumbres;
Sexto: Que hace oficio de intermediario, a cualquer título, entre las personas (hombres o mujeres) que se dedican a la prostitución o al relajamiento de las costumbres o los individuos que explotan o renumeran la prostitución y el relajamiento de las costumbres de otro;
Séptimo: Que por amenazas, presión o maniobras, o por cualquier medio, perturba la acción de prevención, asistencia o reeducación emprendida por los organismos calificados en favor de las personas (hombres o mujeres) que se dedican a la prostitución o están en riesgo de prostitución.

El proxenetismo se castiga con prisión de seis meses a tres años y multa de cincuenta mil a quinientos mil pesos.”

Again, my translation:

”The following persons shall be deemed to be pimps:

One: whoever aids, assists, or conceals, in any manner whatsoever, any persons, whether men or women, for the purpose of prostitution or the recruitment of persons for the purpose of sexual exploitation;
Two: whoever receives benefits from prostitution as a result of such practice.
Three: whoever is involved in prostitution and is unable to justify the origin of funds based on his or her lifestyle.
Four: whoever consents to the prostitution of his or her partner and obtains benefits therefrom;
Five: whoever hires, trains or maintains, even with consent, any person, man or woman, even if major of age, for the purpose of prostitution, delivery to prostitution, or to disinhibit and loosen morals;
Six: whoever acts as an intermediary, regardless of in which capacity, between the persons (men or women) who dedicate themselves to prostitution or the loosening of morals or the individuals which exploit or remunerate prostitution and the loosing of the morals of others;
Seven: whoever, through threats, pressure or conspiring, or by any means, interferes with any prevention, assistance or reeducation measures undertaken by the qualified entities in favor of the persons (men or women) who dedicate themselves to prostitution or are at the risk of prostitution.

Pimping shall be punished with a prison term between six months and three years and a fine between fifty thousand and five hundred thousand pesos.”

Again, nothing indicates that prostitution in and by itself is illegal. Pimping is.

Cock Sucker:
Your time on this board should cum and go rather quickly. That is indeed good news Corky!

Cell Telephone Question

If I wanted to buy a cell phone in DR would I do better with Cortatell or Orange. Not sure of the plus or negatives of each place. Time would be on the card concept. Thanks for the help.
Frank

I don't know What Cock Suckers problem is But I can tell you only from what I have seen here in the pics is that it just leaves more babes for me I hope to see some of the true Mongers there in the future!

Cell Phone Question:

Hey Frank,

It all depends. My chicas and I prefer Orange. If most of your contacts down there have orange, then it is cheaper to call them from your Orange phone. I also like the idea of walking into the Orange store right on the main strip for service, etc.

www.orange.com.do is the website for them.

Also, you could bring a GSM phone from the states and they can hook it up at the store for a couple hundred pesos.

MISTER NYC :D

Thank you Mister. I had some similar questions that you just answered. If in the States you have Cingular, call their customer service, and ask for an international tech. If you are all set up, you should be able to be activated in DR, they are a partner of Orange , I think.

Well with the election comming up this Sunday, May 16th it appears that current President Hipolito Mejia and his band of hoodlums are about to be run out of office!

The most recent gallup pole among likely voters has former President (PLD) canidate Leonel Fernandez leading (PRD) canidate President Mejia by 53.6% to 29.9%. If these percentages hold it will mean a first round victory for Fernandez, and a return to power for the PLD party!

I think it is strangely ironic that the much of the credit for Fernandez' strong showing in the polls can be directly attributed to his ability to draw a considerable percentage of the votes of the countries poor and lower class. It was this same group (the poor) that ran Fernandez out of office "on a rail" in 2000 if you all remember.

It is sad but the lower classes voted overwhelmingly for Mejia in 2000 to save them from Fernandez and now they are voting for Fernandez to save them from Mejia!!

I certainly hope we see a solid first-round victory a return to a degree of national stability and NO last minute suprises out of President Mejia. I believe that after the outcome of the election is decided the actual reigns of power are not turned over to the new regime until August 16th. (This should be a "pleasant" three months!)
Cheers,
FORD

Ford,

Thanks for the overall good political report. Only, as I recall, Fernandez did not run in 2000 (as he was forbidden from doing so by a law recently changed), but instead put up a croney who, indeed, lost to the bald one, Meija.

To Sexy Surfer,

Yes, you are correct! In the 2000 presidential election Leonel Fernandez was ineligible to run so the PLD party chose Secretary to the President Danilo Medina to head the ticket. I might have confused people by some of my choice of language.

Medina lost in a one-sided election 49.9% to 24.9% to current President Hippolito Mejia, and then withdrew prior to the run-off election. It was widely maintained that the vote was vote against Fernandez because Medina was his hand-picked successor. In reality it was in fact the PLD rather than Fernandez that was run out of office "on a rail" in 2000!
Cheers.

Hello All,

Today (05/16) I proposed a new section to this forum entitled "Living in The Dominican Republic". Below I attached a copy of the proposal that I placed under the forum section "Suggest New Topics Here". Anyone who thinks this is a good idea, I would appreciate it if you would also let your opinion be heard and send a mesage to Jackson seconding my idea.
Thank You.

***Hey Jackson,

I would like to propose a new section called "Living in the Dominican Republic"

You have sections called Living in Argentina, Living in Brazil and Living in Peru under the respective country boards and these sections have become quite popular, and have resulted in many informative discussions and spirited exchanges.

I think a section entitled "Living in the Dominican Republic" would be a good place to post information on house prices, new construction, long-term rentals/leases, monthly living expenses etc. and give those of us who have entertained the idea of moving to the DR an appropriate forum for the exchange of ideas and opinions.
Thank you.
Cheers,
FORD

Ford,

Great idea. Everytime i "go down there" , pun intended, that irrational thought crosses my mind. Might be a great reality check for mongers. I have had many people tell me ( ex pats) that unless you can live like a tourist, you might not want to move there. It can be difficult.

http://espanol.news.yahoo.com//040517/1/s35g.html

That link is to a yahoo article about how Medina already conceded that he lost.

In 2000 the PLD lost because 1) Leonel could not run and 2) Balaguer opposed the PLD candidate.

See Medina is a descendant of the Mirabal daughers which were killed unde the Trujillo government... and Balaguer was invlved int eh government.

Medina accused Balaguer of being partly responsible and Balaguer told him to go F himself, and put all his power into kicking the PLD party out.

Balaguer died a few years ago, and Leonel was the candidate this time, so thats the low down on DR politics.

Hippo out, Leonel in. Interesting to see what the next few months will bring.

Yes, Leonel Fernandez defeated Hipolito Mejia on the first ballot %54 to %36. Mejia has recognized the victory.

I think the first thing we should hope for is a safe, peaceful transfer of power. (This is never guaranteed) and then we should hope for a slow general improvment in the overall economy. Hopefully, no more protests that turn deadly.

I think everyone generally acknowledges that the days of a 15 RDP -1 USD are over but that an exchange rate of say, 38RDP to 1 USD is actually having the effect of spurring on tourism! Alot can we said for an island that can now claim to be "the best value in the caribbean!" The "DR" is that.

Cheers.

>>That link is to a yahoo article about how Medina already >>conceded that he lost.

Should have read MEJIA not Medina.

Medina is the nephew of the Mirabal sisters. Theyw ere killed by Trujillo. Had he not pushed Balaguer about his involvement on the death of his Aunts... he might have had a better shot in 200.

PLD tore the PRD a new one. Mejia saw he was lost before the second Bulletin was released.

I can't wait to go down for the Inaguration.

When I was in SD late last year every local I spoke to was hoping that Leonel Fernandez would win. I saw his posters everywhere. Hopefully this result will lift the people's spirit some, and what else it does we shall see.

Was checking the exchange rate and it looks to be up around 47-48. Mid fifties might not be out of the question in the short term. I was surprised to see movement like that on a "holiday".

Leonel will be good for the country but the place is such a mess things will need to get worse before better.

I see the exchange rate hitting 60 soon.

The past few months the exchange rate has been artificially low because of the govt trying to keep it low for the elections and also for the IMF. Posted rates of 42-1 mean very little. If you walked into a bank and said you would like to buy 10k in dollars they would not sell.

People holding dollars usually means the rate is actually higher.

At champions in the Juragua prices are now all in dollars. Same with the all night cafe in the Juragua.

I went to Outback the other day. My GF and her son. Bill was 3,700 pesos which is not bad.. . . . .. but in december we went with 10 people, 7 adults and 3 kids, had appetizers, lots of beer and the girls had frozen margaritas etc and the entire bill was like 6200 pesos.

Prtyr2,

Doing the math your Outback bill was around 70US with the dollar around 46-1. Are food prices now that high, or is that just reflecting the cost of beef in RD? Or you guys can really pound down the drinks,junior included...:)

I hope pricing in dollars is infrequent, I don't want to carry both currencies around not knowing who accepts what.

We probably had about 6 beers, 2 froxen lemonades, for the kid, their rib apetizer, 2 prime ribs and a burger. The 12 ounce prime rib is now 750 pesos. I remember when the 16 ounce was 400. Oh well. OTOH, I ate pasta with garlic and olive oil for dinnner the other night. Got it from Pasta Y Basta on Independencia. Cost 100 pesos. Just a bit over 2 bucks, can't beat that.

A dozen wings at Champions was $4.25 last night so it is still more than reasonable, but not as good as before. . . . .

Looking for: caramel complexion chicas with big tits and beautiful, round asses that are into giving bbbj. Where is the best place in the DR to find them?

Questions: a. Have any of the mongers out there ever brought a chica to the States with them? I've heard it is not a good idea. Not that I would ever consider doing this, but just curious as to the reasons why you should never bring one home with you.

b. I read that there are downsides to living in the DR as an ex-pat. I have considered buying a condo there to become a part-time resident. I know all the pros (pussy, low cost-of-living, pussy, warm weather, and pussy) but what are the cons?

Gee D Bridge. I've done both. . . . .he he he he. Married a Dominicana brought her to the states, seperated and now finally getting divorced. I also now live in Santo Domingo.

No major pitfalls to report in either case. The marriage didn't work but I can't say anything bad about her. No scamming etc involved, we just couldn't live with eachother, despite being in love.

The ex pat thang is similar. I would suggest spending a TON of time down here before moving here. I had been here over 30 times before hand. Still one gets confronted with 3rd world issues constantly.

Heck I had one apartment above a colmado, so peace and quiet were not something I got a ton of.

As far as caramel complexion with big tits and round asses? Where to find that? The answer is easy. . . .EVERYWHERE!

D Bridge:
The only major con I know of in the DR is obvious: compared to the U.S. due to economic conditions, there's less opportunity to make good money.

Don't Speak Spanish?

How sensible would it be for me to come here for a vacation not speaking Spanish? Would I have a good time? Would I have any luck with non-pros?

For p4p, would I find any English speaking ladies to spend the whole day and night with me?

Which city or town would be best? The capital?

If need Spanish, suggest some other countries in Western Hemisphere where English would be sufficient.

Thanks

Prayers to the families of those who perished in western DR and Haiti this week. We should never forget what we have and where we go to relieve the daily stresses of our lonely lives. Help others who have difficulty helping themselves.

Peace.

Boy in Bubble,

I have been to the DR four times since Sept. 03, with only one solo travel. I speak little to no spanish and manage to communicate and have fun. I wouldn't suggest doing this if you have a big heart and can't stand up for yourself. I rented a car from national rental and grabbed me a presidente beer and was off. Make sure you exchange your money at the airport and separate the dough to several different pockets. I would go as far as suggesting a wasteside money bag or a money belt. Have loose dominican coins due to the possibilty of the toll collector ripping you off. Carry a small calculator to stay on top of how much money you spend and receive. Stay away from multiple groups and the occassional amigo who is willing to look out for you. You are better off dealing with employees, but I recommend someone who doesn't leach onto you too close. If you decide to rent a car keep in mind that most dominican drivers, drive as if they're trying out for nascar. there are numerous pedestrians out all times of day and nights and dashing across the major highways like deer during hunting season. If you do decide to go solo, consider paying one of the hotel staff who speaks both languages to chaffuer you around on their off time so you can enjoy the sites and drink till your heart desires. Keep the passport and valuables in your room or hotel safe. My only problem when I travel to the DR is that I don't budget myself smartly. I find myself making frequent trips to the ATM, exposing myself to many hungry eyes.

Be safe and enjoy.

hey I have been to several countries and your spanish does not matter. grab a book from the writers of lonely planet the book is caled something like latin america phrase book it has a few pages on getting freaky. If they are pros they know the basic anyway .I have been with a few domicanas in panama they were kind of aggressive. if not some one in the pick up spot knows english tell them what you want . or most of us at first go around with a taxi driver that can bargin for you good luck

I think of going to DR for the 1.time. Ihave seen that their currency is really down at the moment and the euro is 3 times more worth then 2 years ago. How much are the hotels ,chicas,food etc. at the moment? Is it really cheap at the moment?

Thanks for helping

Kuranyi

Kuranyi,

You get about 48 pesos to the US dollar. I guess you can do the euro calculations. It's VERY cheap!

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I think of going to DR for the 1.time. Ihave seen that their currency is really down at the moment and the euro is 3 times more worth then 2 years ago. How much are the hotels ,chicas,food etc. at the moment? Is it really cheap at the moment?

Thanks for helping

Kuranyi

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Its been cheap for the last 4 years!

At *******,

It depends what you mean with "cheap". The dollar has been pretty strong in the last 4 years, now it is the euro. For me a hooker in a 3rd world destination who wants 50$ for ST is not cheap. It looks like in DR the price is about 800-1500 peso which is about 14-25 Euro. That is o.k. I am monger on budget,but i always had a good time when I traveled.

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At *******,

It depends what you mean with "cheap". The dollar has been pretty strong in the last 4 years, now it is the euro. For me a hooker in a 3rd world destination who wants 50$ for ST is not cheap. It looks like in DR the price is about 800-1500 peso which is about 14-25 Euro. [red] I usually pay 500 for an hour to three hours. [/red] That is o.k. I am monger on budget,but i always had a good time when I traveled.

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I am off to the DR for the first time on Wednesday and planning on staying two weeks for some fun. I heard from a friend that it would be wise for me to bring a cell phone to communicate with girls when I am there (I am semi-fluent in spanish). Its always complicated giving them the number of your hotel and if possible, I would like to just give them a cell phone number when I meet girls. Does anyone know if I bring an old sprint pcs phone (motorola flip, no SIM card), can I activate it somehow in the dominican for two weeks? anyone know about pricing? I searched the entire board for info before I posted but couldn't find out any details. Would really appreciate some help.

Thanks in advance guys. Will be sure to post an update when I return!

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Sprint PCS can be activated in about 5 minutes at any Verizon outlet (CODETEL) for 100 pesos for the PRL. (If you don t get the PRL your calls will cost more. )

You will need the unlock code it is a ## + 6 digits (not the same unlock for the keypad) If you don t have this code then you will have to pay 500 pesos for them to unlock it.

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I am off to the DR for the first time on Wednesday and planning on staying two weeks for some fun. I heard from a friend that it would be wise for me to bring a cell phone to communicate with girls when I am there (I am semi-fluent in spanish). Its always complicated giving them the number of your hotel and if possible, I would like to just give them a cell phone number when I meet girls. Does anyone know if I bring an old sprint pcs phone (motorola flip, no SIM card), can I activate it somehow in the dominican for two weeks? anyone know about pricing? I searched the entire board for info before I posted but couldn't find out any details. Would really appreciate some help.

Thanks in advance guys


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Rent a phone for $2 a day down there, its simple that way.

Sorry for being naive but has the recent flooding and then the earthquake impact the hobbying situation? Pricing raise? Less chicas available, etc?

I have never been to DR and would like to experience it in the next few months.

Thanks,

Almotu

Jimmy DR,

Provided that your cell phone is capable of being used in the DR, you can pay an additional $10. per month with Sprint PCS, and use your phone in the DR with no problems. You will be charged a rate of .42 cents a minute and you will have to be on one of the america plus plans. Minutes from your plan will be deducted for each call, and nights and weekends are free with just the .42 cent per minute charge. Your Chica will have to call your US area code and seven digit number.

Good luck

Last time I was down there, I bought a brand-new Nokia phone for about 40 dollars from the Orange store right on El Conde in the historical center of Santo Domingo. So if you're staying two weeks, that would mean something like 3 dollars per day, and you keep the phone afterwards. The one I bought clearly wasn't the most expensive one, but it also wasn't the cheapest - if I remember correctly, they had some for as little as 1000 Pesos, in which case, for a two-week vacation, it's actually cheaper than renting at 2 dollars per day, or about the same. You can buy phone cards to charge credits to the phone at any colmado. Rates were reasonable - about 10 US cents per minute for outgoing calls anywhere in the DR, incoming calls are free. The important thing: you keep the number you get as long as you put credits into the phone at least once every three months. So before you leave, buy a bunch of phone cards to periodically refill the credits, and you can keep the same phone and the same number for a long time.

I am hoping to visit the DR from the UK sometime in the period September to November. I am looking for general advice about how to go about things. I know only a few words in Spanish. I am really looking for black chicas.

I am planning to base myself in SD and make some trips to Boca Chica. Is this a good way to go about things?

Is it true that there are quite a lot of Haitian women working in SD, and if so, what is the best way to meet them? (given my lack of Spanish and compatability issues with UK phones anything involving a mobile is not likely to be of much use).

Are there any other British punters out there with experience of the DR?

R Ley,

I am an American who also does not speak a word of Spanish.

I would recommend flying into Puerto Plata and staying at an adult resort called Blackbeards. http://www.blackbeardsadultresort.com/ They will pick you up at the airport. The rooms and food are good. The owner and manager are both Americans, speak Spanish, and will help you have a good time. As far as girls check them out at http://www.blackbeardsadultresort.com/beauties/. Blackbeards screens the girls and make sure that they will treat you right and not rip you off. I had a great time at Blackbeards and am planning a return trip.

NY Traveler:
I have had Sprint service for years. Their price plan for usage is exorbitant! IMHO, better to go with other options presented here previously.

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I am hoping to visit the DR from the UK sometime in the period September to November. I am looking for general advice about how to go about things. I know only a few words in Spanish. I am really looking for black chicas.

I am planning to base myself in SD and make some trips to Boca Chica. Is this a good way to go about things?

Is it true that there are quite a lot of Haitian women working in SD, and if so, what is the best way to meet them? (given my lack of Spanish and compatability issues with UK phones anything involving a mobile is not likely to be of much use).

Are there any other British punters out there with experience of the DR?


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The british are all in the North in the Sosua area!

R ley,

Read your report. When I was in Boca most of the girls were were dominican but dark. If you want Black girls Sosua is full of them. At 18 a session they were good. Talking about Hatians. Also there is an English pub in Sosua where you will be happy to speak English. Sosua is much better all around then the boca region.

I have read an online report of investment company ,which states that you can get up to 24% a yr bank rate in pesos and up to 12% in US $. I have never been to DR nor do I speak spanish.

For all of you who have been there, how true is this statement?If it is true, is that rate guaranteed or insured by goverment? And what best banks out there, can you advise?

Throwing out a tech question here. My firewall HATES this site, and will fend off a few syn port attacks and then close my browser down. Anyone else having this problem? I'm running McAfee VShield.

Well being the techie that I am I will offer this advice RearWindow.

First are you using IE only, because you can download other browsers that may not give you the same problem

i.e. Mozilla or Netscape

Try that and let me know how it works for you.

Peace:
WSJ3
:)

R Ley. I am an American who also does not speak a word of Spanish.

I would recommend flying into Puerto Plata and staying at an adult resort called Blackbeards. http://www.blackbeardsadultresort.com/ They will pick you up at the airport. The rooms and food are good. The owner and manager are both Americans, speak Spanish, and will help you have a good time. As far as girls check them out at http://www.blackbeardsadultresort.com/beauties/. Blackbeards screens the girls and make sure that they will treat you right and not rip you off. I had a great time at Blackbeards and am planning a return trip.

I have now disabled my firewall (while I am on this site)and have had no problems, so it is just too damn picky. I have mucho problemas with Netscape and T3 at work, so I am reluctant to try that here at home. Maybe I will look at Mozilla. Computers making our lives faster and easier. HA! Thanks amigo.

Anybody know if WiFi or BlueTooth are supported in this fabulous playground? I really could use it, if it were. Gracias!

Let me agree with what Love Seeker said. I stayed at Blackbeard's from the 8th to the 13th and had a great time. I recommend it as well. When I figure it out, I'll post some pics that I took there of a few of the ladies that I had.

I am not quite sure of your exact question, but if you are asking if you can locate a wi-fi hotspot then check out this site: [url]wi-fizone.org/zoneFinder.asp?TID=7[/url]

There is a WIFI hotspot in teh Acropolis mall. It is in the Verizon office. You do need a Flash acount to access it.

One of the MPs in SD has DSL. I may just "donate" a WIFI hotspot to them. So if my lights go out, I can sit at the bar and work!!!

Does anyone have a contact number for aeromar airlines? They cancelled my fight last year and never gave me a credit. Now all there office numbers do not work. The 370.00 will buy my next ticket. Much thanks for any help.

For Aeromar 1-800-solongmymoneyforever

They are dead flat broke without a peso to refund to you or anyone else. They left 6,000 people stranded near Xmas, depsite all those people knowing what a risk it was torely on them. Sorry, but there is no hope.

To all that responded, thank you , my lesson has been learned.

I'm looking to get away for a week or so. Is the Dominacan Republic good for solo travel? Blackbeards looks pretty interesting. Seems like it would eliminate much of the leg work for a novice such as myself.

I have two questions for my fellow mongers, and I want to thank in advance anyone kind enough to answer them.

I have never mongered in the Dominican (I have principally in Toronto, Montreal, the Czech Republic and the Netherlands), but am considering a trip this August. Here are the two questions I have:

First, I have mixed feelings about the attractiveness of the girls I've seen in the photos posted on this website. I do not mean to offend anyone who finds them without exception attractive (nor the girls themselves, of course) -- I know these things are subjective. I also want to say that of course I would sleep with anyone in any of the pictures on this website....I'm not picky. My only reason for concern is that if I'm going to spend a wad of money giving myself a treat, I want it to be special. So could anyone tell me a bit more about what the scene is like in terms of attractiveness, range of attractiveness, etc.? I am not loaded, but I'm happy to pay more for girls that are more attractive. My ideal is 18-30, slender and tight, with a good face.

I know this is a tricky question because these things are subjective, but perhaps whatever answers anyone give will be helpful anyways. (I tend to find some of the women in the Brazil section pretty hot, for instance, but its more expensive there.)

My second question is whether anyone is interested in meeting up in August in the Dominican. When guys sin, it is often more fun to sin in groups.

Thanks,

Hapax.

Hapax, I'll start the responses. I can understand your question / concern though. On average I have found the DR girls posted here to be very attractive, some more than others, some much less. Everyone has their tastes and that's cool. However, I think the consensus is you will find very solid 6, 7's and 8's in DR. Every so often 9 and 10's (just look at flyboy's pics in the photo section).

Flyboys girls, who he found in SD, are strong 9 and 10's to me - slim, hot bodies 18-23 years old. I think that is the gold standard and can be found in any location in DR. (But why hold out for a 10, when you can have 2 really good 5's - or 5 really good 2's - as the joke goes)

My research on Brasil, however, leads me to believe a large proportion of the girls in the termas are of the 9 and 10 variety. With more 6-8's in Help disco or at the beach.

It's all relative and I think either location, you will find women that will make your jaw drop. I would not worry about it in the least. Check out the blackbeard's site showing about 30 or so of their professionals. I bet you will place a 9 or 10 on a number of those pics.

Hapax,

I read your post. The girls look like the girls in the photos. They are all not great. The majority of them are small and bow legged. Also they have a lot of marks on their skin. Also many of them have strech marks. And their pussies stink , not all of them. These girls are not hot looking N.Y. well fed, clean Latinas.But there are some pretty ones . In Puerto Plata the best ones are at El Boem , but their expensive. Also the country is dirty and poor. This not Miami . But saying all that , the place is still great , and the girls are hot in bed, and 18 dollars goes a long way there . And from my experiences the country is safe. There is a web site called Bomba bar, or something like that. Just google for beach bar sosua in image, and this site will show you great photos of how it looks there.

Has anyone used Yully's Escort Dating Services. If so, how was the service and girls? PM info.

Thanks

Hapax,

On Dominican beauty: Female attractiveness or the lack thereof is highly subjective. That aside,the majority of mongers that find dominican women up-to-par are the types who tend to be attracted to black women. After all,the majority of em are simply blacks who speak spainish as a first language.If you're not at all into dark chics,I wouldn't suggest the place.

Personally, I've come to believe that although dominican women might not be the most beautifull fems on the planet. They're never-the-less more attractive than american women on average. Have you noticed the huge upswing in the number of"fatties"in the states?. I think 60% of the u.s. is overweight. It's nowhere near as bad in the DR.

Take care!

Chacho

Flys to Santo Domingo and Santiago from NY- North American Airlines: 212-568-1253
Also flys to the DR from NY-Delta: 212-568-1207

I've read a bunch of past posts, but I'm looking for a quick answer to a few questions - maybe someone can post or PM?

For someone that can speak Spanish, hates being an "American tourist" (hope you understand this 'label, that's my intent in using it), and would avoid a hand-holding hobby experience (e.g. Blackbeards... these are great for those that want them):

1. Where is the best scuba diving (e.g. PP, PC, Dominicus?)? Is there a place that has great snorkeling but not a great dive destination?

2. Where is the best city/resort option for a mix of P4P and nonpros? I'm looking to spend some time with nonpros (e.g. amigos.com GFs), and still mix in some P4P at my hotel (not a love motel) for without hassle (need a chica-friendly spot)?

Thanks!

If you share some of these interests and are willing to trade some PMs - please contact me directly (via PM)?

If anyone has run across any extremely skinny chicas in DR (or anywhere in the Caribbean) I'd appreciate any tips for locating them.

I am a new member looking for a place to go on a Vacation. DR, looks like it is the one. Can you tell me what the best place to go there and where to stay

Thanks to everyone for the tips.

To chacho, yes, I do find dark women attractive, so that is not an issue, and I'm happy to hear you don't find them to be overweight, as that is something that I'd rather not pay for. (To each his own, but for me it is a turn off.)

To Scruffman, your post was a little more discouraging. Small, bow-legged, with bad skin and stinky pussies? Yikes. I hope this is an exaggeration! (I grant that you said some are pretty....I'll try to hold out for those!)

And BJ Lover # 2, thanks too for your note.

I'm wondering if I can ask another question. Could anyone guess what percentage of girls offer greek and cim?

thanks again! I promise to put your advice to good use!

Hapax.

Hapax,

I have NEVER been with a chica in RD who's pussy was nasty. The chicas I have had there have been far cleaner than most girlfriends I have had in the states. As of yet, I haven't met anyone who would do greek that wasn't a two bagger, but many will do CIM.

To address the attractiveness of RD women, I find they have this amazing sexy sense of style. If you live in states, look around for a second, las Latinas are always sharply dressed.Even a plump girl will catch your eye because of how they dress and ..ohhh.. that strut. Beauty IS in the eye of the beholder. I love darker women, so they are my ultimate weakness.lol.

RearWindow wrote:
To address the attractiveness of RD women, I find they have this amazing sexy sense of style.


.........Yes, yes, I couldn't agree with you more!! There is a uncomparable sexuality about RD women that you do not find in all other Latin American countries. The way they dress, the way they "carry" themselves, the way they walk, dance. (etc.) Central American women (with all due respect) are also beautiful but could learn much!

Cheers,
FORD

A Lesson for all who like to be in the company of Fine DR and Latin Women all over the world for that matter,

I'm going to extend a lesson in how to link up and meet non-pros, non-hooker women before you arrive, I was'nt going to give up my secret but here it goes . The rest is up to you my apprentices...

Ok, here we go!

A good way to meet regular chicks before you arrive is log onto to www.amigos.com or if you have msn messenger you can seek and email females from the SEARCH CONTACT OPTION on the Messenger for the dominican republic, the profiles have pictures as well on both sites. Amigos is a pay for site where you put a profile up in espanol (just translate it in english from a site) and you can seek and search for latin women all over the world. It's 10 dollars per month and it was well worth it for my trip (I paid the $10, 30 days prior to departure for my 2 week long trip late may early june).

I had great success being that I'm 24 years old, good looking, athletic, educated (Just obtained a Master's Degree in Urban Planning from Emory University in Atlanta, GA) and the women thought I was dominican and looked dominican but I'm African-American with light eyes and light brown skin and I have a intermediate understanding and knowledge of Spanish. Being that I look Dominican, I assimilated easier into their culture when hanging out with their friends, meeting family and just being out enjoying life while I was there. The response you may get will depend on your looks, age and what you have going on in your career and a willingness to understand or learn spanish. Many of the females I met on amigos and msn spoke english but it was limited and it was my willingness to learn meet them half way that they really fell for me .

The quality of women you meet you can meet online are of outstanding quality and beauty (Med-School Students, Law-School Students, Tourism Students, Business and females who just work or recent college and grad school grads like myself) who have real ambitions and who are non-pros who are going places in life and live in the Capital (Santo Domingo) and Santiago. I met over 30 females on Amigos and MSN who I talked to daily on msn messenger, aol and yahoo and occasionaly on the phone (To about 5 of the ones who I really liked) before I arrived there. Now mind you that, many of the females who I talked to told me that they are not receptive to old men, non-good looking who just want to come out their and "become sex-tourists" and they will ignore you if you come off that way. Just like anywhere in the world, YOU HAVE TO HAVE GAME to make yourself attractive to the opposite sex.

When I arrived in Santo Domingo I had it all lined up, I only could meet with 12 of them during my trip because the 9 guys I went with wanted to see what Boca Chica is like so we did that scene for the first 4 days then on to the Capital of Santo Domingo and Santiago where I had my "Beautiful Winners on Arrival" that I met on Amigos and MSN. There we did the things you would do with any normal girl, hit clubs, toured the city, went on exursions and to different city sites went out to dinner, lunch, breakfest I met family and just had fun and of course had a lil nite action to cap it off (No Money payed). That experience really made my trip worth while, and especially made the $10 I paid for amigos.com worth it~ The thing is with me sealing the deal before I came out there It was like I already knew them and I had their trust. These were females who stayed in nice neighborhoods, had cars and went to the best places, just like the females I deal here with in the US so I was at home .

Now if you plan on going to Boca Chica, regular girls from Santo Domingo will be VERY HESISTANT to come see you. I had a few come out from Santo Domingo to see me because they could'nt wait the 4 days until I got into Santo Domingo but regular girls will never step foot in Boca Chica because it's tooo far (35-45 minute drive and it's nothing but Putas & Prostitutes and will be wondering why you even wanted to stay there. LOL (That's the reaction that I was getting . Boca Chica and Sosua have nothing but Village Chicks who are prostitutes and that's primarily it. So if you have game and want to step it up a bit, I would suggest going to the capital instead, but for your first time and it seems to me you are a rookie in ALL aspects of the game I would just go to Boca Chica, pay for some P and just have fun and chill, eat jet-ski and relax, you will have a blast trust me.

For myself I need more beauty and substance than your average Boca Chica or Sosua Street Rat and I got that and more in the Capital and Santiago where the women are of much higher quality and have more going for themselves, these are women that I still talk to via internet and on the phone occasionaly and that I will be seeing on my 3-4 times visiting each year. I have to admit I'm hooked on the DR and so are my 9 buddies who came down with me! But hey you have to step it up to get on that level buddy. Just my thoughts, I know this is a long post but I thinks it's important and informative for people to know the deal.

Peace

Guys,

It is impressive that you know local currency.

Noneless, it would be helpful if you gave currency in $, whenever that is possible. Rates change, but usually not much.

San Salvador has converted to $ in currency, and apparently others are following suit.

50,000 baht doesn't mean enough to me to check out the exchange rate. I'd really like to know what a dollar would buy.

Atl Dennis wrote:
I was'nt going to give up my secret but here it goes . The rest is up to you my apprentices...
A good way to meet regular chicks before you arrive is log onto to www.amigos.com

........... I may only be a lowly apprentice but I came up with this idea three years ago and have been doing it since! However, here's the problem. Since I also am not exactly the ugliest guy in the world and I have a few bucks and because of my proximity to "The Heights" in NYC I am a very attractive suitor for these women.

If you remember several years ago at the height of the Heidi Fleiss scandal that hit Hollywood, actor Charlie Sheen found out that there were literally dozens of entries regarding him in Heidi's little black book. When questioned about his conduct re: why he solicits hookers he gave the now famous line, "I don't pay them for sex, I pay them to leave!"

Sometimes a pro is much better than a regular girl. It's been my experience that regular chicas can become very "clingy" and difficult, and if a guy tells you that this has never happened to him than he's probably not all that attractive to them.

Just my opinion for what its worth, but than again I am only an apprentice.

Cheers,
FORD

I will second Ford's "clingy" observation with a note about my mongering buddy. He was flying out of Miami to SDQ and struck up a conversation with a woman a few seats over. The usual bla-bla started, she asks where are you going in RD etc. She's back to see family, he's going to do anything that moves.

Anyway, he exchanges digits, and after returning stateside , gets a call from la chica. Ohhh. when can you visit me in Miami? He's been back twice to see her, but says she is on a biological clock bender that is pretty scary.

I'm not ready to give up this freedom that I have recently found travelling. He's not either...

The beauty of the pros is that they understand why you are there too, so there's no commitment, just the hope that both will have a great time and do it as often as possible.any comments?

BTW, Atl Dennis, that was a great post in refer to the SD girls avoiding tourists from BC. Dead On. Were you part of the group of football sized guys in May? Just curious.
RW

Atl Dennis, after propping you, I'm gonna rip you...if you think that you are getting replies on Amigos and whatever that the chicas really are PreMed , Law School, CPA's, bla-bla- you might need to stay in the ATL for your own safety.

THINK .my man, you just said that the SD girls won't look at touristos in BC , so why would the SAME girls use the internet to meet vacationing men?

Oh wait! They Don't!

Atl Dennis,

My initial reaction to your post about game, and your secret amigos.com method, was one of amusement. Many of us who travel extensively for purposes of spending quality time with women of different cultures, have been doing this since...well since before you were born.

However, it never hurts to hear from someone with a fresh perspective, especially from someone with such vast experience and education.

I personally have found the chase to be more fun and rewarding as I've grown older, and hopefully a little wiser. It has never been difficult for twenty-something guys in their physical prime to find and bed young attractive women. Please try to remember that while you may have some aptitude, you didn't invent the game.

EZE :)

FORD wrote - I may only be a lowly apprentice but I came up with this idea three years ago and have been doing it since!

You might have been doing this for three years but I was just putting it out there for all the fellas here since it was so good for me!

FORD wrote - Sometimes a pro is much better than a regular girl. It's been my experience that regular chicas can become very "clingy" and difficult, and if a guy tells you that this has never happened to him than he's probably not all that attractive to them.

I have experienced the "clingy" syndrome from ALL of the woman I have cultivated relationships with in the DR. It's cool though because I love playing the game and I play it well, I let them know what I expect and they respect my space and guidelines are set. I could write for days how my girls call me on my phone 24-7 saying.. Deeennnniiisssss, Deenniisss, mi amor, lol. I have to admit, sometimes it gets a little irritating but I quickly put it down and let them know how this relationship is going to work.

RearWindow wrote - I'm not ready to give up this freedom that I have recently found travelling. He's not either...

The beauty of the pros is that they understand why you are there too, so there's no commitment, just the hope that both will have a great time and do it as often as possible.any comments?

BTW, Atl Dennis, that was a great post in refer to the SD girls avoiding tourists from BC. Dead On. Were you part of the group of football sized guys in May? Just curious.
RW

Your right I'm not ready to give up my freedom either and with my SH and STI so consumed with their work primarily during the day I have plenty of time to be with my select core of hotties during various times during the day in Both Cities. For example, One day I meet my Lawyer lady for a lovely home cooked lunch at her condo in Bella Vista (Nice Area in SD) then pounced on her between the sheets and made her a little bit late back to work, then later in the evening after some R&R at my Hotel (Official Residence Hotel The Jaragua) I hook up with my med-school chick after her work at the hospital and class is finished and hooked up for dinner and dancing in the Conde, then back to The Jaragua for an intense session. I know how to play the game and the blueprint for me is set.

Yeah that is the beauty of pros (no commitment) but I don't like females that have had loads of cum in there mouth and get "dug out" on a daily basis. Just a personal preference of mine, especially when I pull top notch quality in ATL and Internationally why settle for a "street rat". Also, if you really get to know non-pros they are just like any other females, you have to realize that women love to fuck too all over the world and love the Dick like Males love pussy, you just have to dig a little bit and explore their freaky side because as we all know the negative perception of a promiscous woman. I have a equal balance of the game and know how to exploit and relate to all women of different social classes.

Yeah definately "Dead On" the woman of status definately avoid BC and they look at me crazy even when I mention it, lol. Santo Domingo women headto Las Terranas, Caberete and La Romana, Juan Dolio Bayahibe if they want a beach in the country. Yeah I was in that group of "Football Athlete Sized Guys", It was funny because when I was going thru customs in Ft. Lauderdale the customs agent asked us if we played ball, lol.

RearWindow wrote - Atl Dennis, after propping you, I'm gonna rip you...if you think that you are getting replies on Amigos and whatever that the chicas really are PreMed , Law School, CPA's, bla-bla- you might need to stay in the ATL for your own safety.

THINK .my man, you just said that the SD girls won't look at touristos in BC , so why would the SAME girls use the internet to meet vacationing men?

Oh wait! They Don't!

Ha ha, you are all on my jock on the first post now you "Rip Me", ha ha. And you doubt my sincerity about the woman I deal with, you can't be serious! Just because you can't do it don't hate on the next man, just come to the realization that the pay for game is all you buddy! Like I said out of my ladies I see in the DR right now one is in Law School the other in Med School doing her residency rotation throughout the country. I have others as well who are in school for business and in the tourist industry all that I met through amigos and msn. I would suggest you try amigos or msn before trying to hate on mine. And once again (I hate repeating myself) the females I hooked up with did'nt view me as a tourist type because I took the time to get to know them before my trip (on the messenger, email and once in a while on the phone) and I'm not a not a old, non-attractive whom they constantly get proposals online from, like I said the females I know there are not desperate ones that you may run into during your visit. They have their own money and do ok in there country. Try reading my post over again so I won't have to repeat myself again :).

You see guys I'm just trying to help out the clan and you have some snipers as always in life. No one can stop my flow! Try amigos or msn, believe me you'll luv it! Hey no hard feelings RW don't knock it until you tried and if you try and still can't get some cool ones from that internet method, there may be a problem.

Check a picture of one on my chics out at dinning with me fine restaurant establisment Vesuvios on the Malecon! If you ever get a chance check this place out, the food is outstanding!

Peace, "The One and Only" ATL D

Atl Dennis,

If you guys aren't hooked up with a team, you might want to think about forming an Arena League team!

I should have put "rip" in quotes. It has been posted more than a few times that EVERYONE in SD is "going to school". so I look at that claim with some skepticism. But, YMMV, and I still think that your post overall was excellent on the mindset of the normal girls. Although , I think they all have an agenda there, so whether you pay up front, or a bit later , it's pretty much all the same.

BTW, su amiga is a knockout!

Peace and party safely!
RW

Spent 3 days with her in the capital, her friends call her "little Shakira." (Can't imagine why, I think she's very ugly) ;)

Hmmm Ford, I am seeing a distinct rubia pattern developing here...you might want to change your MO every now and again...;)

Uh, oh don't want to get in a rubia pattern! I had better change my M.O. Thanks RW.

I think that the thing that is missing on the discusion of regular girls vs. working girls is that you know something about the women. atl dennis is right if the girls are street rats then forget them but if they look like some of member ford's beauties then that's a different story. you guys all make some good points

ford more pictures the women are gorgeous!!

FORD!!! Who was That?!!!!!!!

LK,
Great points. One thing I have found (YMMV) is that i have been more likely to get the REAL life story from the working girls,at least from my experiences here and in MX. The non pros don't want to let you know they have been "busy" in the past..you know divorces, ex's etc. The working/semi pros pretty much lay it all out there. Sometimes whether you want to know or not.

I had that happen with an amante in BC. We were post sexo, and she goes into a bit of a life history, and asks me "do you want to know why I left my American Boyfriend?" I said no,but I'm guessing you are gonna tell me anyway...and she did.

Hello everyone,

I am new to the forum but have really enjoyed all of your memories of DR. I had the pleasure to spend a few days in Puerto Plata last year and can't wait for a return trip. Ater reading many of your posts I figured out that I was paying way to much for my fun, but being my first time there and not speaking Spanish, I dont regret one penny of it. I went to the El Bohem twice and had a wonderful time, my second night there ended with three beautiful ladies two of whom were sisters! The next night I told the same driver to take me somewhere else and we went to a place called "Crystal"? I had an even better time there. The women were beautiful and had the whole place to myself. I would like some advice though. I am planning a month-long trip to the DR and would like your thoughts on where to go, Santo Domingo? Boca Chica? Sousa or back to POP. Like all of us I am looking for the most attractive women at the most reasonable prices, and looking to possibly spend some extended time with the right girls (Time at the beach, Sight seeing, Etc.) Also would like names of hotels that are nice, VERY chica friendly, and affordable, or tips on how to know which places are or arent. I found out the hard way that All- Inclusives are not the place to try and take a girl! I stayed at the Iberostar Costa Dorada,very nice place but looking for someplace that better suits my travel plans. If anyone out there who is very knowledgeable on the DR would like to share their knowledge with an eager listener I would really appreciate it. Thanks for all of your pics, they have brought back some good memories of my trip. I had forgotten how beautiful Dominican women are.

Shadow68,

Hate to say it, but read the forum, friend. You will get the basic ground rules there, and after that, it you have questions, ask. Pretty much anything you want to know, has probably been addressed in the forum already.Unless you are a reprehensible pervert (lol), you'll find what you are looking for.
RW

Thank you Rearwindow you are right. The more posts that I read I am getting all the info that I need. Job well done guys!

Thanks

This is probably a stupid question, but since I did not see anything in previous posts, is the electricity there 110 or 220? Are the plugs compatible with US?

Thanks,

EZE :)

EZE_Amante the electricity is compatible with the US standard electronics.

I have used my playstation system in the Hamaca (located in Boca Chica) and never had any problems.

Hope this helps.

Peace:
WSJ3
:)

WSJ3,

That definitely helps. I like to take my laptop with me when I travel so I can write the reports before the details get washed away by the cervezas.

Thanks,

EZE :)

EZE_Amante I did the same thing when I was last in Sousa. I guess the easiest way to record your "mongering activities" for later posting would be to save a MS Word or text (.txt) file to a disk.

Now once you take a break in your mongering, you can go to an internet cafe and just cut and paste the text quickly (just in case you experience a power outtage) and share with the WSG community.

Peace:
WSJ3
:)

Good to hear they have internet cafes. That's exactly what I do when I'm in Buenos Aires, but the impression I get of the DR from reading the forum is that it is pretty 3rd world. The locuturios also tend to be a good place to pick up regular or semi-pros. Had any luck with that in DR?

EZE :)

I haven't really tried to pick up a chica in an internet cafe EZE_Amante.

My modus operandi is usually to get a nice normal chica (not a puta) on the weekend when families are at the beach and then get in good with the parents and family so that I can get a hot meal as well as some hot ass.

Don't get me wrong I love the massage and BBBJ places that abound in DR, but I love to hook up with a normal semi pro chica for a real PSE.

This has happened to me only twice in my many travels (receiving a PSE) but I always get the GFE when I am in DR.

Peace:
WSJ3
:)

I almost forgot EZE_Amante...

The car washes are another spot to try and get a normal chica for the PSE in DR.

Peace:
WSJ3
:)

I know RTFF! But what is the deal with the carwashes? This refer comes up fairly frequently, and it's not like every chica in the DR HAS a car to wash... I guess they go to look for players with rides there?... I've haunted some strange places, but never a car wash. It sounds like a bad (redundent I know) porn script.

THAT is strange.

Hello Everyone,

I have been reading your forum for a few weeks and have found it very informative for that i thank you, but like a newbie I still have questions that most likely have been answered before. First what is a "monger"? is it short for *****monger. Secondly I decided to go on my first visit to DR Aug 12-17. I will be staying at blackbeards and i have a few questions. What are the going rates in DR in pesos and US dollars? Do i have to worry about not speaking spanish? Is the resort safe for my personal belongings ie passport / laptop? what is the going exchange rate for the dollar? Where can I find the best exchange rates? What should i especially look out for in terms of safety? Any recommended places i should visit? How should i pay for most things ie dollar/peso? What type of crop will find at BB? Do you thinks he dates of travel will cause a problem? Finally what is the average tip in pesos? Thanks in advance for your help guys and any other recommendations you have will be greatly appreciated

Thanks,

Big sexx

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Well RearWindow

My experience is if you have a car then that indicates that you have means.

And the only thing more powerful in this world than pus*y is [B]MONEY[/B].

But I prefer to catch a chica relaxing on the beach with her familia that way I can get in good with the parents and they won't bark when I keep their daughters legs pinned behind her head todo la noche.

Peace:
WSJ3
:)

LMAO, ...carwash...jotting that down, you bet. See you there, if not, maybe I can find a laundromat or grocery to stake out. Nah, too much work, I'll just hang at the beaches.

EZE :)

OK Guys.... I kinda a lazy fuck and don't want to read all the past posts. BUT.. also know that beauty and fun are in the eye of the beholder. Also the info is quickly outdated? Really want to make my first trip to DR and actually have read alot of old posts. Just don't know what to believe. Noticed that Jimmy DR's Nice indepth "everything you always wanted to know" is a little old, is it still relevent?? If not, what is the new hot spot? Guys, I am so in love with the pix and prospects. I Really need to go to this place and check it out. Looking to go in Aug/ Sept.

Wanderlust:

I can personally vouch that my buddy *******'s post are dead on. I used a lot of his info for my first trip to Sousa, and I didn't have any problems.

But honestly, you can read all the posts until you are blue in the face...the fact of the matter is you have to go down and experience DR for yourself. The posts are just a guide.

The rest is up to you.

Peace:
WSJ3
:)

Wanderlust,

If you want to make the most of your visit its best to go through as many of the posts as possible the more information you arm yourself with the better the time you will have there.

I spent a week going through all of the posts to get a feel for the place and there is still a lot of useful information contained on this board. Compared to many other countries the DR has some of the best information for a monger to use.

Juniour

Wanderlust,

Agreed- reading ALL the posts even as far back as a year ago would be helpful. Of course, all the girls have changed and many have "cum" and gone and there are now new ones. But from the posts I've read so far - the quality is better in SD, and Santiago - whereas the value (low cost) is found in Boca Chica and Sosua.

That is the reason I plan to hit three of those places in Sept. Every place but Boca Chica, I want a bit more quality this time around. Yet, even in many of these places, there is always a hidden "gem" and you could hit the jackpot.

WSJ3 wrote:
you can read all the posts until you are blue in the face...the fact of the matter is you have to go down and experience DR for yourself.


............amen, brother!

WSJ3 is correct. Jimmy is right on the money. He does not lie and tells it like it is. Always current information.

I lurked for many month's gathering information. Then I went down to DR. I like it alot more than Brazil. I used to live in Brazil but Sousa/Cabarete suits me better. To each his own.

The stories he tells are real. Anytime you want to know something just ask. The Sosua guys are very friendly and love to help others. We take care of each other. Great place, great people.

I cannot say thank you enough to Jackson and Jimmy. Jackson for his site and Jimmy for his information. Although Jimmy and I don't hang out together in Sosua. I make it a point to always seek him out several times while I am there. Although considered a Sosua local I learn something from him everytime we talk. The man is straight up.

The people I really watch out for in Sosua are the ex-pat's. Be very careful of them. The guys from this site and Jimmy's are great.

I will not mention Jimmy's site out of respect for Jackson. But you can always PM and find it. It is the ultimate Sosua site. Jackson's is the ultimate World site.

No, I am not a shill. Just telling it like it is.

Nomad

Falcao,

I just returned from 3 weeks Dominican Republic. But I can't agree with you that the Dominican is a better place than Brazil. I also lived in Brazil. In my opinion Brazil is a FAR better place than the Dominican Republic. For mongering, for non-regular girls, for the people, for costs of living. The people I met in the Dominican Republic were very nice as long as they thought they could get/ earn something from you. So, a lot of fake friendliness. I didn't notice this much in Brazil. But like you say: everybody has his own preferred choice.

[quote]


WSJ3 is correct. Jimmy is right on the money. He does not lie and tells it like it is. Always current information.

I lurked for many month's gathering information. Then I went down to DR. I like it alot more than Brazil. I used to live in Brazil but Sousa/Cabarete suits me better. To each his own.

The stories he tells are real. Anytime you want to know something just ask. The Sosua guys are very friendly and love to help others. We take care of each other. Great place, great people.

[red] We have nothing to gain by being snobs. [/red]

I cannot say thank you enough to Jackson and Jimmy. Jackson for his site and Jimmy for his information.

[red] Jackson has one hell of a site here. [/red]


Although Jimmy and I don't hang out together in Sosua. I make it a point to always seek him out several times while I am there. Although considered a Sosua local I learn something from him everytime we talk. The man is straight up.

The people I really watch out for in Sosua are the ex-pat's. Be very careful of them. The guys from this site and Jimmy's are great.

I will not mention Jimmy's site out of respect for Jackson. But you can always PM and find it. It is the ultimate Sosua site. Jackson's is the ultimate World site.

No, I am not a shill. Just telling it like it is.

Nomad

[/quote]

I have been to DR once a month this whole year. I usually hang out in Santo Domingo. I have been to Sosua twice. I will start to hang in the North. I like the people in DR, but it's hard to find someone you can trust. I have meet a few people that are trust worthy and will keep them as friends. I will not be going in August. August is too busy for me. I will be in Sosua in Sept.

Superion brings up some good points. While the DR is not perfect it is very good. I`ve never experienced any crime whatsoever. And the girls are nice. They are all pretty hot in bed and we`re talking about 25 dollars average, and many times less than that. The people are helpful, and sure they want some money but we`re talking about 2 dollars. And there are girls just walking around , many to choose from. And hotels with AC for 35 a night. DR is great.

The way Superion writes is agressive and insulting. We do not need to flame others and calling things "bullshit". Everybody has the right to express his own view. I personally prefer Brazil and Argentina but the DR has his own merits. I got cheated in Kenia by an individual but why call all Kenians liars? Also why call other people´s opinion bullshit? That is unfair and intollerant.

These are my 2 cents

Carlos

There are alot of reports in DR1 and Hoy about the increasing frequency and duration of the power outages in the DR. Anyone on the ground have any information as to how much the hotels and restaurants are being affected, and have there been protests in any of the tourist areas?

FYI, this is one of the stories from DR1:

"Darkness envelops the nation
The Dominican Republic does not have enough electricity to carry out the most mundane activities. The front-page photograph of the Finance Commission of the Chamber of Deputies deliberating the recently submitted tax reform package in semi-darkness speaks louder than the biggest headlines. El Caribe says there is barely 600MW of power being supplied to the national grid – 1,000 MW short of the estimated demand. Every possible activity in the country is being affected by the breakdown of the system, purely for economic reasons. Industry, commerce, education, legislation, transportation and most every facet of daily life are all interrupted by the continual blackouts. Fifteen-hour power outages, often continuous, are becoming the norm. In Santiago de los Caballeros, in the heart of the Cibao Valley, the situation reached unprecedented levels and the Chamber of Commerce called for immediate government action. Bloody protests marked the afternoon and evening in the more populous neighborhoods of Santiago, Moca and Santo Domingo. In Santiago, the area of “Los Ciruelitos” – always a hotspot – became a virtual war zone with police and protesters exchanging shots for most of the afternoon and evening hours. The disturbance saw several people wounded and dozens of arrests, according to La Informacion out of Santiago. In Santo Domingo and Santiago, the standby electric generators are also giving up the ghost. In the capital city, the generator at Plaza Lincoln broke down after putting in months of 15-hour days. Similar occurrences happened at Plaza Central and at Campus A of the Pontifical Catholic University Madre y Maestra (PUCMM), and residents near the Pathology Institute are complaining of very disturbing odors that appear to emanate from the building. In Santiago, the two generators at one of the most exclusive addresses in the city have also broken down from overuse."


I hope the violence does not spread.

EZE

I just flew into new york wed morning but had been in santo domingo the last 3 weeks. In over 5 years and 60 trips, plus living there for 2 years. . ..this is the worst it has been. The problem is the "old" administration which is still in power owes a LOT of money to power companies. They did everything they could to keep the lights on BEFORE the elections.

Once they lost, they could care less etc. The new administration does not get into office till mid august. Hopefully Fernandez will make this top priority.

I saw the lights go out at the Acropolis mall twice last week. That is probably the most upscale mall in SD. Most hotels are doing OK but these generators are not used to running 15 hours per day etc. Plus many times there is a shortage of diesel fuel to run the generators!

I didn't see any violent protests in SD even though I went into less than "nice" neighborhoods such as Los Minas, Villa Juana, and Christo Rey.


I did have a guy on a scooter grab my camcorder and try and steal it while riding by. I had a good grip and almost pulled him off the scooter.

I think in some cases chicas may be more willing to spend the night with you as the odds of them having lights etc at home are slim to none.

Thanks for the info Prtyr2.

I don't arrive until Labor Day weekend, so I'm hoping the situation doesn't deteriorate over the next month. When does Fernandez assume power? Hospitals, schools, and government offices without electricity tends to make any populace angry. In another article, it mentioned even the National Hurricane Center was without power. That is a little scary this time of year.

Oh well, I'll take my chances anyway. Neither wind nor blackout will keep me from my appointed rounds with the chicas.

EZE :)

I think the inauguration (SP?) is Aug 16? I'm hoping that week is party time cause i arrive in SD 8/18.Viva luce!

It is not an issue here in LRM. The town is quite dark at night, but there is electricity even with most street lights being out.

I was at El Deseo, the chica club, and with A/C and loud music going they had outages of say 5 seconds about every 1/2 hour. After maybe 1 hour they seemed to cut the A/C, or cut it back. It wasn't so warm, but warmer than I like it.

At my hotel in Bayahibe, and for that matter everywhere there, I never once saw electricity go out. And I can't believe they are using a generator at this tiny place, nor even in this tiny beach town.

I posted this under Santo Domingo but I think it's better served under General Info. To all Tri- State members just noticed this morning that JetBlue has $69 each way to DR (Santiago or Santo Domingo). Seems like a great deal for all those looking to make a trip to DR.

Hope it helps

G

JetBlue,

While there are "specials" on JetBue for $69 - most of those fares are for "red-eye flights" and other "unusual times of the night and/or morning." So if cost is your thing, then go with JetBlue - otherwise, both Delta and American have good fares to SD and STI (Santiago) for the $250-270 range. These are great fares compared to earlier in the year.

Hi everybody,

I'm from Italy and I'm new here. Sorry for my english, that's not very good.

I'd like to go to Rep Dominicana in august, I've never been there, but I know Cuba island well and of course my spanish is good.

Please someone can explain me differences between Rep. Dom and Cuba about the two people, life and particularly girls?

If someone needs some info about Cuba, and particularly Habana and Cienfuegos contact me, I'll try to help you

See you,

lugano

I got this from the NHC for those of you on the south coast over the coming weekend.

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/ftp/graphics/AT02/refresh/AL0204W5+GIF/041523W5.gif

Doesn't look like a bad one, but it should be there by Friday. Have fun and stay safe.

EZE :)

Lugano, search for a post by the user Quifhunter. There are only three, so you shouldn't have trouble finding it.

Hapax.

I found the post of Quifhunter. Thank you very much.

Lugano

August 12, 2004 - Reuters:
The entire Dominican Republic was blacked out yesterday, a fact that again made front-page news in all the papers. At 3pm yesterday, all formal electricity service ceased to flow across the entire nation. According to Superintendent of Electricity George Reinoso, the system was still recovering from the previous two blackouts that had occurred the day before. Reinoso said the few generators that were online at the time contributed to the general blackout, as operators had not been able stabilize the power grid.


........ Leonel Fernandez and his new cabinet take office this Monday, August 16th. Let's hope his Administration can at least stabilize the economic situation. The currency seems to have stabilized, but the power crisis is like nothing this country has ever had to experience in its history.

FORD

Continental Airlines sent out an email to their frequent flier members regarding a promotional fare to Caribbean countries from $199. Puerto Plata, Santiago, and Punta Cana are the three cities in the DR involved. Have to reserve by 8/16.

No, sorry no flights to Cuba :)

LAGNAF

Can anybody give me information on staying in the Samana region maybe some info on places to stay (hotels) and how the action is in this area. I am travelling there in September and need some tips.

Mucho Gracias

What is the best/cheapest way to phone the DR from Canada?

Assuming it is a phone card which is best and where in the TORONTO area can I get them?

Thanks

New Way Into Santo Domingo Chaps!

http://www.spiritair.com/welcome.aspx?pg=pressrelease&PressID=1&StartRow=1

8/25/2004


Spirit Airlines Expands in the Caribbean

New Service to Santo Domingo, Dominican Republic



FORT LAUDERDALE, Fla. (August 24, 2004) – Spirit Airlines, a leading low-fare airline, announced today that starting on November 18, 2004 it will introduce daily non-stop service from Fort Lauderdale to Santo Domingo, Dominican Republic with connecting service from Atlantic City, Cancun, Mexico, Chicago/O’Hare, Detroit, NY/LaGuardia, Providence, and Washington, D.C./Reagan National.

"Last winter, we began our 3-phase plan for growth. First, we secured an investment of $125 million from Oaktree Capital Management. Second, we ordered 35 new Airbus aircraft with options to purchase another 50. And third, we are adding new cities and routes to our map this fall," said Jacob Schorr, chief executive officer and president of Spirit Airlines. "Last week we announced service to New England at Providence, Rhode Island’s T.F. Green Airport, and today we are excited to announce service to Santo Domingo. As a Florida-based airline, the Caribbean is an natural extension of our service, and one we are confident the community will embrace."

Travelers can enjoy introductory fares booked by September 8, 2004 for travel beginning November 18, 2004 (blackout dates: December 12, 2004 to January 17, 2005). Introductory fares when booking at spiritair.com start at:

Santo Domingo to/from Fort Lauderdale from $59*

Santo Domingo to/from Atlantic City from $89*

Santo Domingo to/from Cancun, Mexico from $89*

Santo Domingo to/from Chicago/O’Hare from $89*

Santo Domingo to/from Detroit from $89*

Santo Domingo to/from NY/LaGuardia from $89*

Santo Domingo to/from Providence from $89*

Santo Domingo to/from Washington, D.C./Reagan National from $89*

Click here to book today!

From Santo Domingo To:
Depart
Arrive
Flight Number
Stops

Fort Lauderdale
8:00AM
9:35AM
436
0

Fort Lauderdale
3:10PM
4:45PM
438+
0

Atlantic City
8:00AM
1:30PM
436/262
1/FLL

Atlantic City
3:10PM
10:05PM
438/268+
1/FLL

Cancun, Mexico
8:00AM
12:59PM
436/271
1/FLL

Chicago/O’Hare
8:00AM
1:10PM
436
1

Detroit
8:00AM
3:10PM
436/372
1/FLL

Detroit
3:10PM
10:35PM
438/380+
1/FKK

New York/LaGuardia
8:00AM
1:55PM
436/180
1/FLL

New York/LaGuardia
3:10PM
10:35PM
438/710+
1/FLL

Providence/Boston Area
8:00AM
2:05PM
436/210
1/FLL

Providence/Boston Area
3:10PM
10:10PM
438/214+
1/FLL

Washington, D.C./Reagan Nat’l
8:00AM
3:00PM
436/394
1/FLL

Washington, D.C./Reagan Nat’l
3:10PM
9:55PM
438/516+
1/FLL



To Santo Domingo From:
Depart
Arrive
Flight Number
Stops

Fort Lauderdale
10:55AM
2:10PM
215
0

Fort Lauderdale
7:15PM
10:30PM
425+
0

Atlantic City
7:15AM
2:10PM
259/215
1/FLL

Atlantic City
3:40PM
10:30PM
1265/425+
1/FLL

Cancun, Mexico
1:59PM
10:30PM
278/425
1/FLL

Chicago/O’Hare
2:05PM
10:30PM
425
1

Detroit
7:00AM
2:10PM
417/215
1/FLL

Detroit
3:15PM
10:30PM
461/425+
1/FLL

New York/LaGuardia
6:40AM
2:10PM
705/215
1/FLL

New York/LaGuardia
3:15PM
10:30PM
171/425+
1/FLL

Providence/Boston Area
6:50AM
2:10PM
215
1

Providence/Boston Area
3:05PM
10:30PM
219/425+
1/FLL

Washington, D.C./Reagan Nat’l
7:40AM
2:10PM
507/215
1/FLL

Washington, D.C./Reagan Nat’l
4:00PM
10:30PM
395/425+
1/FLL



+ Flights operate 12/16/04 – 1/9/05 and from 6/16/05


* Fares are for coach class and are each way based on round-trip purchase. Fares do not include (a) a segment tax of $3.10 per U.S. domestic flight segment of a passenger's itinerary: a flight segment is defined as one takeoff and landing; (b) up to $18 per round trip in local airport charges; and (c) September 11th Security Fee of $2.50 per enplanement originating at a U.S. airport, up to $5 per one way or $10 per round trip. Puerto Rico fares do not include government taxes and fees of $13.70 each way. International fares do not include Government taxes and fees up to $125 per round trip. Certain restrictions apply. For best results, please book early. Fares are subject to availability and may not be available on all flights on all days.




About Spirit Airlines


Founded in 1990, Fort Lauderdale-based Spirit Airlines is the largest privately-held airline in the U.S., bringing low fares and friendly service to 17 cities, including: Atlantic City, N.J.; Cancun, Mexico; Chicago/O'Hare; Detroit; Las Vegas; Los Angeles; Myrtle Beach, S.C.; New York/LaGuardia; Providence; San Juan, Puerto Rico; Santo Domingo, Dominican Republic, Washington, D.C./Reagan National; and the Florida cities of Fort Lauderdale, Fort Myers, Orlando and Tampa, with seasonal service to West Palm Beach. Spirit was recently granted authority to fly to 11 Caribbean destinations.

In March 2004, Spirit announced an investment of $125 million from Oaktree Capital Management and will add 35 new Airbus A320 aircraft to its fleet beginning in October 2004, with options for 50 more. In the past five years, Spirit has doubled its revenues to $450 million, and in 2003 Spirit had the second highest load factor of any U.S. airline.

In addition to comfortable Coach class service, Spirit offers Spirit Plus, a low-cost business class with 2-by-2 leather seating, complimentary cocktails and snacks. For more information, fares, schedules and reservations visit www.spiritair.com or call 1-800-772-7117 (en Español, 1-800-756-7117).

Hi

I am thinking about a trip to SD in january and I would like some information about renting an apartment for about a month.

Is it possible and what is the normal rate for a one room apartment, or a one bedroom apartment?

How would I go about renting an apartment there? My spanish is very limited and I am not sure if it would be a problem.

Is there anybody going there in january that I could hook up with?

Any and all information about this would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advace.

Just a heads up to people looking into flying to Santo Domingo.

Spirit Airlines has announced new service to Santo Domingo, Dominican Republic from 8 cities. Their flights don't start until November 18, but if you book by September 8 you can take advantage of their introductory fares which start at $59 each way ($118 roundtrip).

Intro Fares to Santo Domingo from:

Fort Lauderdale ... $59 each way
Atlantic City ... $89 each way
Chicago ... $89 each way
Detroit ... $89 each way
New York ... $89 each way
Providence ... $89 each way
Washington D.C. ... $89 each way
Cancun ... $89 each way


These seemed like good prices to me. Plus taxes on these fares, of course.

** Sorry, I didn't see that this info had already been posted **

And boys, if you got the miles, the AA Milesaavers is an amazing deal. I just traded 25000 miles for a trip to RD, and it cost me 82.50 total. Free trip baby!

The spirit price does NOT include taxes, so get ready for that. AA is matching the price from ORD, and it costs about $315 US total.

[quote]

And boys, if you got the miles, the AA Milesaavers is an amazing deal. I just traded 25000 miles for a trip to RD, and it cost me 82.50 total. Free trip baby!

The spirit price does NOT include taxes, so get ready for that. AA is matching the price from ORD, and it costs about $315 US total.

[/quote]

Get their credit card and they also have 7,500 mile off specials.

spirit from chicago is still a little bit cheaper. From ORD it cost about 289 or something like that including taxes.

I am still wondering what should I do to rent an one room apartment in DR somewhere on the coast. If I could get any and all comments regaurding this I would greatly appreicate it.

Spirit would be cheaper, but for $30 AND the miles , I'll stick with aa.

Can't help you on the apartment question. sorry. Although i am looking into that this trip, for future trips.

Ivan has been upgraded today from tropical storm to hurricane and according to the latest forecast it is expected to hit the DR in a few days.

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/ftp/graphics/AT09/refresh/AL0904W5+GIF/050853W5.gif

all of you mongers who live there , be safe! Hopefully it will veer off just enuff.

Buena suerte,
RW

Ivan has already reached category 4 but it is still strengthening...

Alone else going to experience hurricane Ivin? We will be at the Marriott Courtyard Sept 8th to 12th then traveling.

As of NOW, the maps show Ivan tracking well south of Hispaniola, so DR has been smiled upon again. I was rather worried about this one..it had all the makings of a direct hit...of course it COULD still turn...but my fingers are firmly crossed.

Are there any cheap flights from Punta Cana or La Romana to POP or Cabarete. If not, what is the best bus service to Santo Domingo. From there, I would take Caribe Tours to POP.

I heard they are about 2,000-3,000 pesos. Flights from Punta Cana to POP that is.

Caribe Tours is best value wise.


Work Hard - Play Harder,
MISTER NYC :D

Hi,

I'm also looking for a cheap and safe possibility to travel from Punta Cana to POP. Heard that flights cost´s 80 USD one way.

Is it possible to travel by bus directly from Punta Cana to POP or do you have to go through Santo Domingo?

Thank you for your posts

Best regards from Germany

Heymausi

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I went to a casa over the weekend and to my amazement there was a “Gringo” there with some pictures in hand looking for some chicas that he would like to take out. I was curios so I went over to the guy and asked him where he got those pictures since those chicas were hot.

He tells me over the internet on some sites where men that travel over the world to have sex post these pictures so other men can find the chicas. He told me some websites and of course he mentions WSGFORUM.

I was like OMG.

And the best part he was telling the chicas this and the owners. I heard them later speaking in Spanish (the owners) considering what to do. One thing they did do was not bring the price down to the fellow he paid $4,000 for a 1 hour section in house with a chica that looked like one from the pictures he had.

I don’t mind posting pictures here but please don’t let your little man get in the way of your brain. If you walk in with pictures in hand they have you by the balls since they know:

1) You are a newbie and they might scam you.

2) They will over charge you since they have what you want and think that you will pay what ever for it.

3) The chicas will start to get mad and won’t let you take pictures any more. I have been through that already. I know you may think they will be happy cause this may bring her more action, but most of the chicas will not like it since they think there picture will be blasted all over the net.

I just think that the pictures are more of a graphical presentation of the action but the written info is more important. If you liked that picture of a chica try real hard to remember it and go to the casa, try to find her and don’t over pay.

As a local it’s really does not affect me directly cause no matter what the “Gringo Price “ is, I never pay that, but it hurts the other guys that come down.

Ps. here is the chica I had that night. TLN for only 2,500 with tips included.

[b]Dom Wolf[/b]

Thanks for your post and its not the first time I have heard that other [i]lesser web sites[/i] download [b]“Our”[/b] photos that we share with fellow mongers and post them on their pay sites claiming them to be their own.

I actually met one girl earlier this year in the Philippines who told me a story that someone had once taken her photo posted it on various sex sites under various names and dating sites run by scammers which caused her many problems because unfortunately some idiot, who didn’t know any better, reads this bogus information believing that he really can meet and score with these girls on such sites and naturally she was virtually paranoid about any photos being taken, only with me in them as well fully clothed.

So all please take my advice and put your names on the photos it won’t stop the determined scammers but its help.

Juniour

Hurricane Jeanne's projected 5 day path.

Hopefully this will be the last one and flights in Oct will not be affected.

Peace:
WSJ3
:)


[URL]http://www.wftv.com/weather/3729116/detail.html[/URL]

Thank you Dom Wolf

This is a good reminder of the mental deficiencies in some of the people that visit this fine website. Unfortunately, I don't think that the "distinguished gentleman" that ran around with those photos will learn. His actions are less than smart in a multiplexity of ways.

I am appreciative of your reminding us of how low it could be. But, let's face it, it's a bit easier to get the lower price when you live there.

ferolga

Maybe this is a time to revisit the idea that only photo contributing members can view the photo galleries. This would weed out the lurkers, and actually narrow down the list of offenders should a problem arise.

Draconian, I realize, but it seems like the problems are getting more numerous as of late. which might coincide with the more liberal admission policies here.
RW

Yeah, that would be good. Only guys who contribute can view, but what about those guys who just want to see what they are getting themselves into when booking there very first trip to DR?

There is always someone in the bunch to ruin things to some degree. One time, I had a chica about every couple of days confront me about pics I have taken that they have seen on the internet or were told about from someone here or there.

Sorry, I took the pic, but a lot of people get involved with the film developing process and that is out of my control, etc....is the best way to approach it.

MISTER NYC :D

It is very unfortunate about what happened that I do agree. But thanks to the great photography that my fellow mongers have taken, has allowed me to plan for my future trips. I would have never considered coming to the Dominican Republic, but thanks to your fantastics pictures and great posts of how cool the girls are, I will be traveling down there in November. All I have to say is that I am having dreams of places and girls that I will be exploring when I arrive. By the way I too hope to be able to contribute on my return with pictures.

Cujo

By the way gentlemen please be safe down there with all the storms and crazy weather.

"By the way gentlemen please be safe down there with all the storms and crazy weather."


............I don't think (if I could help it) I'd want to be anywhere in the DR during a hurricane or tropical storm. Campo Cabarete must now be Lago Cabarete. :(

we had the pleasure of being at blackbeards for hurricane jeanne. it was a real experience. the place really did tie everything down and the town shut down. we found a great bar/club thanks ot ian the guide that is posted here. he saved our asses. we were able to find two great ladies to hold off the storm with.

it was amazing he lives near blackbeards and worked there for a period of time. i do believe that he knows evey single girl in puerto plata!!

it was raining like hell and blowing like in a desert storm and as we arrived back to blackbeards it was 1:30 a.m. the damn guard tried, and i mean tried, to not allow one of the girls we had in cause she didn't have her i.d. card.

i had to explain to him that there was no chance in hell that i was not getting into my room without her. my buddy finally told him to fuck-off and call the police. he then said that it was ok.

guess before you bring a girl back to your room during a hurricane you had better check her credentials!!

we had ian work for us as a guide/taxi for our entire stay in puerto plata/sosua. he can be reached at 809-963-7605.

we stayed at the palace two nights, went to blackbeards for two nights and then returned to the palace for three nights. i will post my experience's in the right city threads.

we are back in santo domingo at the marriott courtyards with high speed internet in each room and it is great.

we leave tomorrow for two weeks in brazil, starting in rio. life is tuff!!

rent one

Rear Window, Mister:
Are you suggesting that vets like myself who have never posted pics (yet), but have posted hundreds of extensive, accurate reports also be banned from viewing pics? I hope not, and would hardly consider myself a lurker! Perhaps you 2 respected senior members will re-consider or reconfigure your position.

Should I add more wood to the fire and suggest a pay site on here leading to pics, etc.? Just kidding of course.

I'm just saying there is always someone in the bunch to ruin a good thing.

WSG Forum is a great thing. Let's keep it this way and not ruin it for ourselves.

Think people...think.

MISTER NYC :D

Gpiper,

Good point. Perhaps if we just keep it out of reach for non senior members? Or is that how it is now?

The problem is that once a photo is posted,even tho this is a "private club" , we cannot police the usage by others. Of course, not posting would eliminate that problem..but it is a valuable resource for those who use it in the spirit it was intended.

Hmm, I need to rethink this one.
AFTER my trip.

It was most recently in the 34-35 range.

Keep in mind that even though prices have doubled since the peso hit a 54 range high earlier this year and now it is back down to where it was over a year ago, history should repeat itself.

We should see a climb by year end.

MISTER NYC :D

Beware of the exchange rate.

The peso is climbing so take that into consideration when paying for a chica, rule of thumb never pay more than 100US for TLN and no more that 50US for 1 hour in house with 2 nuts.

That is with tip included.

Thank You

There is a new sildenafil citrate generic V sold here in DR for only $75 pesos a tab.

Cheaper Hardons LOL

Hi Mister,

Is your 28.50 to 1 figure what you're experiencing first-hand? In other words, are you "in country" and are being offered that rate at exchange houses today?

The reason I ask is that I use two separate (web based) currency converter services that have been "dead-on" in the past, and I'm getting figures of 33.50 RDP to 1 USD and 33.25RDP to 1 USD today (9/30/2004)

28.50 to 1 sounds low to me.

FORD

I'm concerned too about the rise. I'll be there is SD on 10/21 and my source for today is 28.50.

Exchange rates...

When talking about FX, you have to consider what you get on the street and what you get in the market.

The peso is about 31.50 to 1 USD on the street (local banks in DR, change houses, etc.) and in the FX market, it is around 28 to 1.

It's simple...the local DR places are taking advantage of the low official market rate by offering better prices for the dollar to attract more.

MISTER NYC :D

Gentlemen,

Just a few notes that may be of interest to some of you:

The D.R. need$ help right now due to the devastating 2004 hurricane season. Don't be shy about $ending and $pending $ome much needed U$ dollar$.

Check out a very nice TV show called "Santo Domingo Invita". It is very informative about everything Dominican and it is fun to watch. You can catch it in NYC on channel 47 Telemundo on Sunday mornings 10AM.

And... check out !Caliente! on Univision (channel 41 in NYC) Saturdays at 2PM. The dancers are indeed very caliente (hot!) in this little weekly musical. If you are home alone have your favorite motion lotion ready. You might just need it >;-)

Mister,

My college finance professor would be disappointed in me if I didn't understand that there is a substantive difference between the bid and ask prices offered on the FX for a currency versus the anecdotal evidence of what exchange rate is actually being offered on the "street".;)

The FX is, of course, primarily influenced by market forces (supply v. demand) where as the street exchange price can be influenced more by emotions and other extraneous factors (good or bad).

This is why I will continue to maintain, that if you are getting the 28.50 to 1 exchange price from reliable sources, on the street, then I'll believe you, but at this price I will say again "the RDP may well be MORE overpriced at this level than it ever has been in history!"

I, por ejemplo, wouldn't want to buy pesos at these prices!

I think you and I are arguing different sides of the same coin - I agree, a collapse from these levels seems very possible.

Cheers,
FORD :)

Chubby:
This is your breaking news!: advising us to watch Caliente, a PG rated show which has been on for years; and telling us not to be shy about spending US$ in the DR! IMHO, not exactly notes of interest.

[quote]
Gpiper wrote:
Chubby:
This is your breaking news!: advising us to watch Caliente, a PG rated show which has been on for years; and telling us not to be shy about spending US$ in the DR! IMHO, not exactly notes of interest.
[/quote]

ROTFLMAO

Gpiper buddy you always make me laugh on this board.

But don't sleep on Caliente I stroke my Strudel to that show every Sabado...there are some fine latinas dancing between 3-4 NYC time.

But I have to agree that is not exactly a revelation.

Peace:
WSJ3
:)

Sky reported:
33.5 Banca Santa Cruz in Sosua at 10:15 AM.

franco reported:
33.5 to 1 @ Jaragua Casino (Santo Domingo), 2 pm today.

Jerry K. reported:
At 10am eastern RUSA in POP paying 33 to 1

GringoCarlos reported:
Sto Dgo cambio quoted RD$34.00 for my USD.


......... these are the prices quoted yesterday (10/4) for the RDP on the DR1 board. Anything in the 20's RDP to 1 USD is low!

I received a quote of 32.5 to 1 on the fx at this mornings open (10/5).

Cheers,
FORD

FORD,
I got back from the Jaragua yesterday morning and it was 28:1 all 4 days I was there. The drop down from around 34 occurred about last Wednesday. However when you bought something off their menu listed in US Dollars they always converted the bill into pesos at 33:1.
We did go to that pit Bocachica for a few hours on Sunday and the cambios there were converting at around the 33:1 range. I also used a cambio in SD which listed 28:1 but when I said I want 30:1, it was no problem.

Money had dropped from 34 when I arrived Monday pm 9/27 to 27.5 on Thursday am 9/30 , which was causing a good deal of consternation among the expats in Boca Chica. Fortunately (for them) it climbed back to 33 on Saturday. I was thinking it might hit 25 while I was there. The worry was that there was no good reason for the sudden changes, and that buying back dollars would become difficult. One could be standing in line in the bank and lose a lot of money with a quick rate drop like that. I lost a 1/2 point as I stepped into a cambio on Tuesday am.

Slick,

If the restaurants were using US prices, and billing at 33rd when the rate was 28rd , you got screwed on prices.

New to this board.

Does anyone know the mix of black, mulatto, white, women
down here in the DR for GFE action.

Thanks

I just got a Travelocity fare alert: $213 r/t to Santo Domingo from Washington DC on US Airways. Continental is about $10 more. Continental flies the Boeing 767-400. which is worth the extra money compared to the older 767-300.

I was looking at the 3 month currency exchange history on the oanda web site, and the exchange rate took a nosedive the week I was there, but has since rebounded a bit. They must have known I was coming.:)

K.J. Baltimonger

I booked a flight arriving SDO at 3 am. I'm wondering what to do on arrival. Any suggestions on where to pass some quality time?
I plan to stay in Santo Domingo for four days.

DD Phil,

All the chicas here are that mix LOL.

Hi guys,

Need some help. Plannig a trip somtime before the end of the year. Where can one find intercity & intracity driving directions for the DR. I am thinking about somthing like santiago to Puerto Puerto Plata and also somthing like Puerto Plata to say Sosua.

Any help will be appreciated.

d life,

first, get a map from the rental agency. avis car rental has the best maps. buy several different maps. most maps seemed out dated. for intercity driving have a local person show you around. the inercity street signs sometimes leads to no way.

the highways are very easy to navigate and the speed limit is unheard of. just becareful when you are driving because most motorist in dr do not follow the rules of the road and locals dart aross the highway. it's very easy to drive from santiago to puerto plata. there are short cuts also, but drive the long way first.

remember, when you are driving and you come to a fork in the road with no directional sign; stop and ask for directions it will save you a lot of time and there are a lot of forks in the inercities.

It is a short drive from Santiago to Puerto Plata or Sosua. The bus ride from SD to Santiago is only a little more than two hours. The Metro or Caribe bus are well worth the $5.00 is costs to get there. Its finding the right taxi without getting ripped off that is the "trick." If you ask a local to call "his" cab company, you will save at least half the fare. A normal ride of $100 RD is usually charged 200-300 pesos, especially at any of the hotels. NEVER use any hotel taxi.

Once you get the name of a "reliable and fair guy, get his card and call him all the time - he will take care of you since you give him repeat business. Its especially cool when you are taking home a chica to your hotel - the taxi guys are "blind" to everything. All they want is your money, just like everyone else.

Hope the girls don't raise prices here!!##@

Saw some amazing Dominicans in NYC & CT areas who performed just as well, but cost two to three times as much!

When is there a Slow season in DR?! (Less Tourists)

Outworlder

In santo domingo I always call one of the "radio" taxi companies if possible. They have standard rates and will call in on the radio to get the rate. No gringo rate etc.


The hotel taxis and guys that wait outside of discos etc, will try and charge triple etc. If they quote 300 pesos for a 100 peso fare I laugh, pull out my cell phone and say I am calling taxi Lino. . . . .many times they agree to my price or at least get in the ballpark..


They get mad about it and spend the entire trip telling me why they need to charge more than the radio cabs:


1-radio cabs are natural gas and don't need expensive gasoline


2-radio cabs are running around all day and get a bunch of fares while the hotel guys have to wait in line till it is their turn etc

I say. . . . .so what! I could care less if the car is powered on [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] if it is a 3rd the price. I ask them what cab would they take if they needed one. . . . .they all say the radio cabs!


So Taxi lino 687 3333 or 621 3000

aero taxi 688 0000 or 788 0000

I can't find the number for apollo taxi but these two should do it.


You just call and say "necessito un taxi" then give the address, the taxi is usually there in under 5 minutes

Just to add a few taxi companies numbers. I have used all of the following in the Capital(Santo Domingo).

Apolo Taxi 537-0000, 537-1245

Taxi Anacaona 537-2222, 530-4800

Santo Domingo Taxi 544-4444, 565-5555

Tropical Taxi 334-6868, 540-4446

Happy Hunting,

JD

Outworlder, Slow season is right now.

Aero Taxi and Apolo taxi were the two that I used most often. But since I stayed at the Jaragua (and in previous posts, ONLY girl-friendly if you give them a name WHEN you check-in) I was able to WALK to three or four Casas, and two or three clubs. The 52 Casa was the best value and had decent 6's and 7's. The Elegant Center had a nice selection but they quoted 3000 pesos and I said, I may look asian, but I'm NO GRINGO! I have been in DR many times and am Norte Americano, etc. They dropped their price to 2000 pesos but I opted to look further. I went to Michelle Spa and there were 7-8 to choose from, but only one that I would do. Once again, the high pitch sale of 3000 pesos and so I opted to go back to Casa 52.

I walked the entire loop from one casa to another and got some great exercise - and was ready for for a fine chica. Entered Casa 52, a bit dim in lighting, but it was like that in the entire place.
I selected "Karina" - 8 in face, 7 in body (wide hips and a tight ass) 6 in ability. She was a bit mechanical, but everything was on the menu. She gave a cbj, we hit multiple positions and finished doggie. She took the pounding well - we both showered in a small shower area, however, the A/C was blasting. I guess because the room on the 1st floor was HUGE, with the bed in one corner and the massage table on another wall. High ceilings, and had an airy feel to the place. Clean, acceptable, and the choice of chicas was very good.

Thanks guys for the good advice. I will try them all. I really appreciate it.

Paradise Lost. Guys look at exchange rates, anyone want to go to Costa Rica with me? My Nov trip to the DR, may be canceled and changed to Costa Rica.

Come on DR is still great no matter what the exchange rate is !!!
The only place in the world where a middle aged chubby guy like me is still an adonis and can pick up girls almost wherever I go with the little spanish that I know.

Bx Loco

The exchange is 32.7 :1 in the DR . What were you expecting?50?

Norm, you might want to check the Costa Rica prices before heading there. Just a tip.And no, we don't want to go with you. ;)

Rear Window,

I did check out the prices, only 150 USD more on airfair, about 449 to 1USD, 25000 to 30000 CRD= 67USD. The Peso at current rates is unacceptable, and yes I want it above 40.

Current exchange rate

FXConverter - 164 Currency Converter Results

Thursday, October 14, 2004

1 US Dollar = 31.57700 Dominican R. Peso
1 Dominican R. Peso (DOP) = 0.03167 US Dollar (USD)

Median price = 30.40500 / 31.57700 (bid/ask)
Minimum price = 30.37400 / 31.54400
Maximum price = 30.40500 / 31.57700

Also me, I will not go to Costa Rica. Let's go to Cuba !!!

Since the FX rates are changing on a daily basis it seems, here is a link to a useful little cheat sheet I have recommended to people that don't yet "think" in pesos.

http://www.oanda.com/convert/cheatsheet?user=drtourist

Just print it out and keep it in your wallet, it comes in handy.

You know its sad to say but RearWindow you're correct - even though the "DR" is getting more expensive it still may be the best value for fun - that's within 3 hours of the U.S.

Costa Rica is the worst kept secret in the Western Hemisphere - getting real pricey!

Norm - if you're set on going to San Jose however, I pm'd you con consejo! (advice) ;)

I'm a underpaid government slave, and I can afford the DR. The latest Travelocity alert I received was 2 days ago: $188 R/T from DCA to SDQ.

If I can only escape to the Dominican Republic for about 3 days what city should I visit. I speak no spanish so ease and also safety are most important. I am very informed about the area because of the boards, however because of my limited schedule I need to be in out of the country pretty quick, however I want to make the most of the trip.

Thanks is advanced for my future 1st time trip to paradise.

Hi Baltimonger,

You're right, the prices for flights are still cheap - JFK to POP or SDQ is still a bargain right thru the winter.

I think the concern people have about prices starts once you "hit" the ground. (lol)

Ford and others,

Just don't follow my lead. Negotiate hard.

Hotels, taxis, and chicas who quote US$ prices instead of RD$ help keep your costs down. That's the one good thing about the plummeting exchange rate. The rest is just a premium on food, drinks, and ambiance, I think it all evens out in the long run.

Of course, you could have the problem I have: Go to the DR for a week, come back and find out your boss has docked you a week's pay. That really hurts!

There was a difference in exchange rates between the Western Union in Boca Chica and Las Americas Airport of 6.5 pesos my last day in the DR (Oct. 4).

I picked up a SW in Baltimore the other night who asked me how my DR trip was. Another monger had told her about it, and asked her if I was back yet. I'm famous.:D

Hey amigos,

Do I need a passport if I'm an American Citizen to enter DR? The state Dept. says no, but I rather hear it from one of you who have recently been through the process.

Thanks,

Expat

Baltimonger wrote:
Of course, you could have the problem I have: Go to the DR for a week, come back and find out your boss has docked you a week's pay. That really hurts!


........ouch! Yeah, that would suck! :(

(It sounds like your boss is in need of a week in Boca Chica or Sosua)

northbound -
If you only have time for a short 3 or 4 day trip, I think you should consider sticking to the northcoast and stay in the Sosua/Cabarete area.

If you make reservations at a place like the Sosua Palace, the owner is a great guy and will be happy to give you the 5 cent tour of the area and the town. Also, there is usually a friendly group of "players" in house that will be happy to show you the ropes.

The fact that you don't speak Spanish however, is always going to be an issue when negotiating with the chicas anywhere in the country.

Cheers.

To Northbound,

Sosua would be your best bet. Everything is on one street, Pedro Clisante, and within walking distance. In Puerto Plata or parts of Santo Domingo you'll need to take taxis or motoconchos (dirtbikes that the natives use to transport tourists). Sosua is like the village in New York City where everything is next to each other. When you arrive at the Palace ask John if anyone of the people staying at the palace speak spanish. If so find out if you can hang with them. Most of the tourists who stay at the palace do not speak english but do just fine meeting the girls. As long as you know that the average rate is RD1500 for short term and overnight RD 3000 then you'll do okay. You can even find short term for RD 1000. I've met guys who have only a small understanding of spanish but can still negotiate. Also ,ask the girls if they speak english. John can even translate for you if you deal with one of the girls at the palace.

Northbound,

You can also try Blackbeards, in Puerto Plata. The chicas are on site and the prices are fixed at RD 1500 for short term and overnight at RD 3000. Also, the management there speak both enblish and spanish and two or three girls are bilingual. The management also has a book listing all the girls they have and what they do or do not do. You can ask to look at the book (I've seen the book myself!) and choose a girl. The management can interpret for you. The only problem with Blackbeards is that it is not technically in Puerto Plata but outside of it on Costambar. If you want to go to Puerto Plata you need to take a cab and to get around you need a cab. Blackbeards has a bar, they serve food, and about 30 girls who appear on site every so often throughout the day. For such a short time and for simplicity this might be your best bet. If you have further questions you can PM me.

Thanks for the help.

One more thing. How much $$ do you guys usually walk around with, I probably would not keep anything in the hotel..So are there lots of atm's around.

Also when you start negotiating with girls do you feel the quality of the service goes down?

If I make down there I will give a my first time experience report to the board. Maybe even some photo's if I can.

Thanks again, and if you ever find yourselfs in the southeast of florida I'll be glad to help.

Expat,
I just went there without a passport Sept. 28 to Oct. 4. It slows you up a little going through immigration, but not that big of a hassle. They take you into another room, take your picture, use your driver's license number as a control number they feed into a computer, and return you back to the immigration line where they stamp your birth certificate.

All things considered, I think a passport would have been better to have. The irony is that I work at a place that processes passports, but never thought about getting one before.

Hope this helps.

K.J. Baltimonger

Hi,

I have been through the entire DR portion of the site. City by City. WSG provides great detail which is much appreciated.

But I still have some questions and could really use some answers. The only mongering I have to compare against was my trip to st. maartin last year. I had a FANTASTIC time there that I don't think can be matched, but I'm going to try :)

I am 99% sure that I will be staying in punta cana b/c that is where my friend has a time share. it looks as if my options if i stay in pc are limited to traveling to bavaro and hiruengo (sp?) which i am not sure if that would be more costly than just staying closer to the action. do you agree?

I am still not sure, after reading everyone's posts, whether this is a smart move since i will be focused on relaxing mostly, but also mongering daily. should i just abandon the all-inclusive deal i have at my buddy's place which will average, with food included, @$90US per day to stay in SD instead? I could really use some help here. i am a single, 32yo male traveling solo (woohoo!). Please help me out by answering my questions below and adding in any advice you have for me. i need your help with this decision which is primarily safety, cost and comfort based.

Bottom line: From a daily $$$ perspective, i am trying to compare option (A): The cost of this all-incl punta cana hotel ($90US per day hwich includes three meals) plus mongering travel (taxi each way to 'meet and greet' girls if i stay in Punta cana) and 'enjoyment costs' (fees, cover charges, etc.) with option (B): Any alternative to Punta Cana you can tell me about where i might find a safe, quality guest friendly hotel (pls. suggest 2-3 hotel names and approx. daily prices) in SD or elsewhere in DR with lower girl 'meet and greet' costs (i.e., not the actual fee, but also transportation and accomodation costs.....Are there safe, guest friendly places i could consider WALKING to from a hotel that meets the safe and clean and girl friendly criteria that is also close enough to a beautiful beach? I may be asking for to much, but any help you can provide is really appreciated.

Many thanks in advance for your help.

btzkey

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Bretszky,

You were reading this site?

"I have been through the entire DR portion of the site. I am 99% sure that I will be staying in Punta Cana"

[QUOTE=Helpmann]Bretszky,

You were reading this site?

"I have been through the entire DR portion of the site. I am 99% sure that I will be staying in Punta Cana"[/QUOTE]

You can say that again. Methinks he has a white cane and a guide dog (with some DR girls not so bad an affliction really) , even then you can have the pages read to you by computer so I suspect the lure of a cheap stay in a dumb town is overruling a low cost stay in a town where you can actually do something.

Punta Cana - What a total time-wating destination, and frankly, Bretzky, for the first time Santo Domingo is not the best choice either. For low cost high volume first time mongering go to Boca Chica, you won't need $90 a day for room, food and drink even with the horrible peso currently.

The only thing holding me back from going to DR is the fact that I don't know how to speak spanish. Is this really a problem or should I go anyway? If I do go where is the best place to go for a fat white guy with no spanish go?

I usually go to Jamaica and have no problems there but need a change, everyone knows me there now.

Bonao,

Is there any mongering action in this town or area?

I read internet webpages of local newspapers almost daily. For what I read crime has grew a lot in the recent weeks. I read articles about murders, at least five daily, in average. Lots of robbery, bank and stores assaults across the country. My girlfriend get robbed near el Conde yesterday, at noon. A country that looks for safe for me in recent times now looks like a dangerous place.

[QUOTE=boricuaonline]I read internet webpages of local newspapers almost daily. For what I read crime has grew a lot in the recent weeks. I read articles about murders, at least five daily, in average. Lots of robbery, bank and stores assaults across the country. My girlfriend get robbed near el Conde yesterday, at noon. A country that looks for safe for me in recent times now looks like a dangerous place.[/QUOTE]

I thought the Dominican Republic was a high crime area in any case. Its probably full of desperate people. Yet Ive known people who have gone there, and none were attacked. Yet, a good friend of mine was robbed and beaten at a train station in Connecticut. Go figure.

Anybody know what the deal with cell phones is in DR? for the life of me i couldnt get mine to work (i use cingular) if i go back i would like to be able to have cell phone comunication since Blackbeards has no phones.

[QUOTE=Reality]Anybody know what the deal with cell phones is in DR? for the life of me i couldnt get mine to work (i use cingular) if i go back i would like to be able to have cell phone comunication since Blackbeards has no phones.[/QUOTE]

It is a bit of a gamble with roaming to say nothing of costing a mint.

Buy an Orange or Verizon/Codetel phone and use calling cards - they are available new as cheap as RD$600-900, and the cards start at RD$100. You will have the advantage of a local # the chicas can call as well and when the card runs out you still receive calls for free. If you are a frequent visitor they hold the number for the 50-70 days a card is good for plus at least 90 on top of that so a trip every 5 or 6 months you should be OK.

You can get a phone from the US but you need to make sure that it is not locked into a network and that it accepts a sim card. Once in DR you just go to a phone store and have them change the chip to an orange chip (make sure that the guy gives you back your original chip). All Nokia phones are good for this. Also, European phones are easier to use in the DR because they are not locked. You can buy phones to use in the DR on ebay. Also, there is the issue of the roaming charges for phones that use US service but from what I hear as more and more international service is being introduced the price should go down but this will be a while. I've talked to many workers on the job and the international service is becoming more of an option. I talked to John at Blackbeards about the phones and he said that it would be very expensive to install and the pbx system is a pain in the ass.

Thanks for the info guys, hey do any of you guys know if there is a hotel like Black Beards in the Santo Domingo area? I live in Puerto Rico and for some reason its cheeper for me to fly to Santo Domingo (120 to 200 bucks round trip) than it is for me to fly to Puerto Plata (300 cheapest i could find). What hotels do you recomend? and what are the premo spots for mongering? be it economical and quality.

Boy, it seems like a million years ago (but it was only 4 months) when on July 6th I recieved an exchange rate of 53rdp to 1usd in a casa de cambio on Ave Tiradentes in Santo Domingo.

Now (11/12) the RD Peso has dropped below 30 to 1 and continues to fall. Incredibly, the DR1 reported yesterday that steps are now being taken by the government to try to artificially "deflate" the strentgh of the dollar because of a sudden shortage of pesos in circulation! Did you ever believe you'd live to see the day?

I think the govenrment is correct to get involved - if the peso if permitted to sink to a level of 20-22 to 1 it will kill tourism, and push us "hobbyists" to other countries in search of value.

Cheers,
FORD

Hey guy,

Me and 2 of my friends are going to the DR in March of 05. We are a little green on which hotels allow girls or have girls there. We are looking at staying at a 3 or 4 star place if possible. Also, we will be renting a car while we are there and was wondering how is the driving scene down there? WE are from the Virgin Islands so we are familiar with narrow roads, just need to know how crazy the drivers are. :) Would like to know where most of the sexiest chicks are so we don't have to be chasing back and forth for the pussy.

Any help is very much welcomed.

Thanks,

Jahcool

You might want to narrow it down a bit in your question to other than the entire country. There are not many 4 star places that are guest friendly other than the Jaragua and certainly non of the all inclusive resorts are period.

We want to be Santo Domingo. To be honest, I really don't care what hotel we stay at, as long as there is running water and its pretty clean. My friends are the ones who are particular, but can be talked out of that. As long asI am near the beach I will be cool. :)

Thanks again.

Jah Cool,

Driving - Don't do it if you don't have too. It's pretty cheap to hire a car, diver or taxi to take you wherever you want to go and you don't have to worry about those CRAZY Dominican Drivers. I have been all over the world including asia, europe & other latin american countries, and Dominicans take the prize for the WORST drivers. If you are only there for 3 or 4 days, you can easily hire a taxi by the hour/day or evening and you can relax & enjoy the scene.

If you want a quality experience for your group, try Blackbeards Adult Resort [url]http://www.blackbeardsadultresort.com[/url] near Puerto Plata although not 4 star they are quite good by DR standards and your group will be guranteed a good time.

[QUOTE=Culebra]

If you want a quality experience for your group, try Blackbeards Adult Resort [url]http://www.blackbeardsadultresort.com[/url] near Puerto Plata although not 4 star they are quite good by DR standards and your group will be guranteed a good time.[/QUOTE]

GROSSLY overpriced girls for the convenience of them coming around there. For newbies a good place to start but you'd tire of paying double in short order I think. Nice hotel though. And since "Jah Cool" is going to the capital a touch of a long commute.

If you come from Holland and use a "T-Mobile" card with international access you might be out of luck, it seems like it does not work (well at least not in puerto plata or in punta cana).

However if you have an "Orange" card, then it should work. This network pops up in the network search everywhere and it's available in europe too.

Alternative buy a 100 peso calling card and use it instead.

Note if you call holland the procedure for a calling card is:
[311]
{tone}
[Calling card secret code]
{some jabadabadoo in spanish on how much the account is}
[011] = to indicate that it is not the DR or the States
[31] = Holland
[123456789] = number without the [0] Else it will not work.

Hey,

Anyone see Miss Dominican Republic in Miss World? She came second (that wouldn't happen if she was with me ;-) She was dark-skinned Latino, looked over 6 feet tall and was drop dead gorgeous.

Hey Jimmy,

Why don't you get her down to the Palace? ;-)

It appears that, thanks to the aggressive measures taken by the Fernandez government and the owners of the "all-inclusives" to counteract the soaring price of the RD Peso - the value of the RDP has plummeted from 26 rdp to 1 usd one month ago to a price of ONLY 27.5 rdp to 1 usd today! (LOL) ;)

You just can't fight capitalist markets or the inevitable re-patriotization of dollars back into the DR due to the holidays. (It burns us every year around this time - check the charts) Too many factors working against us!

Things just gotta" improve by the spring!

Cheers.

Try to take several bank cards/credit cards with you to the DR (or whatever country you go. It will help a lot if you need more money than the skimpy 5000 pesos you get from the atm machine at a time. This amount varies by the way depending what they have in stock. So if you need it on the last day you could be in a surprise.

Tip 1: You can do another withdrawal on the same ATM, I could untill the limit of 15K.

Tip 2: It is possible to withdraw some extra with the same card from another ATM at the same day, but seems limited.

Tip 3: Make sure you have several cards at hand to raise your withdrawal limits. This is cheaper than having to go back with a taxi with another card.

Tip 4: Never ever trust on one Credit Card or one Bank Card, make sure you have at least 2 from both and from different banks/companies.

Tip 5: Especially for Europeans, use the ATM, Changing from Euro to Dollar to Peso, will need a heck of a good rate to cope with the unwanted double charges. And keep in mind that a credit card is not ment for cash withdrawal, you will get a nice extra charge for that too.

Tip 6: Allthough allmost everything can be done in USD, it is advisable (cheaper) to get at least 5k peso as soon as you are in the country, the cabby will now a working ATM.

Tip 7: If you plan to come back smuggle (its not allowed) some cash out for the next time, it is convenient on the airport when you return and need some tips.

Tip 8: If you buy dollars in Holland from GWK you will get a voucer for returning the dollars to a period to the same rate and without fee! With the dollar tapdancing around in respect to the euro this can be very handy.

Tip 9: Make sure you can stash the cash safe and do not walk in sight with a pocket book of cash. People overhere seem to make approx 2-3usd/100pesos a day!

For the dutchies, an ATM is a "pinautomaat or flappentap" and for the belgiums no an ATM is not a vibrator (pinnen=having sex). ;-))

[QUOTE=Skittels]I

Note if you call holland the procedure for a calling card is:
[311]
{tone}
[Calling card secret code]
{some jabadabadoo in spanish on how much the account is}
[/QUOTE]

If you dial 611 not 311 the jabdabadoo as you call it is in English. It says that on the card as well.

[QUOTE=Chris P]Hey,

Anyone see Miss Dominican Republic in Miss World? She came second (that wouldn't happen if she was with me ;-) She was dark-skinned Latino, looked over 6 feet tall and was drop dead gorgeous.

Hey Jimmy,

Why don't you get her down to the Palace? ;-)[/QUOTE]

........... because she'd probably want something crazy like 3500 rdp for TLN!!! (lol) :D

I tried, but then somehow it stops as soon as you dial 011 to access europe, would not take 31 instead of 011 direct too.

It was a crummy telephone though, i had to fight it a bit.

However 611 works locally and works with the states.

The following is from the Toronto Sun. My understanding is that there are two more people in the U.S. with the same problem. I'm also told that if you take malaria pills you will be fine.

MALARIA FEARS have prompted Canadian Blood Services to bar donors from giving blood within six months of travelling to the Dominican Republic. A total of six Canadians -- four in Ontario and two in B.C. -- have fallen ill with malaria since visiting the resort area of Punta Cana and Playa Bavaro since October.

Two of the patients -- one in the Toronto-area and one in B.C. -- are "severely ill" and it's not yet known whether they'll make full recoveries, said Dr. Jean-Pierre Legault of the Public Health Agency of Canada.

Jonathan Carroll, president of itravel2000, said 400,000 Canadians visit the island annually and while the risk is low, he said unfounded fears could hurt the country's tourist trade

I'd avoid the place like I would a crack head in DR. It's distant and remote, but if that is your thing, go for it! You'd be better off in Sosua for a few days and then onto Santiago and the capital. Much better selection and quality!! If you must visit the place, take a day trip there to see what its like in real time.

Enjoy and bust some nuts for 2005!

MISTER NYC :D

[QUOTE=Culebra]Jah Cool,

Driving - Don't do it if you don't have too. It's pretty cheap to hire a car, diver or taxi to take you wherever you want to go and you don't have to worry about those CRAZY Dominican Drivers. I have been all over the world including asia, europe & other latin american countries, and Dominicans take the prize for the WORST drivers. If you are only there for 3 or 4 days, you can easily hire a taxi by the hour/day or evening and you can relax & enjoy the scene.

If you want a quality experience for your group, try Blackbeards Adult Resort [url]http://www.blackbeardsadultresort.com[/url] near Puerto Plata although not 4 star they are quite good by DR standards and your group will be guranteed a good time.[/QUOTE]

Hello Everyone!

When is the best time to go to DR, where there is less tourists & less distractions?!

Where is there more quality of woman?

Outworlder

I have never been to DR for mongering. I plan maybe going to Sousa. I want to know what I should expect to pay for FS for a short time vs. all night?

Where are the best places to find chicas? The clubs like Blackbeards, how is it inside? Is it like a go go bar? Thanks for any help there.

Hey,

So I have been to thailand once, never to India or Cuba or the DR.

I have an opportunity to spend 4-6 weeks in any of those areas in about a year and half.

I thought maybe I should save the DR and/or Cuba when I can only take a short trip (week or so) since by being base in Thailand I can hit Cambo, Laos and even India or vietnam.

Can anyone make a good case for changing my eval? Prices? Quality? Extras? Entertainment?

Please forgive my ignorance...I appreciate your comments.

[QUOTE=Outworlder]Hello Everyone!

When is the best time to go to DR, where there is less tourists & less distractions?!

Where is there more quality of woman?

Outworlder[/QUOTE]

Hurricane season can be a bit dry down there for action...storm season picks up the most around August to November I suppose. Someone correct me when if am wrong. Also the best time to go I would say would be during Semana Santa....week of the saints...April..holy week...whatever we gringos call the holiday...the beginning of April...Easter!

Lots of chics come from all over to Sosua to Party...some dimes!

Quality can be had just by walking around and saying hello. You have to get around to all the places...Puerto Plata, Sosua especially, the capital, Santiago, etc.

MISTER NYC :D

[QUOTE=iamlookin]I have never been to DR for mongering. I plan maybe going to Sousa. I want to know what I should expect to pay for FS for a short time vs. all night?

Where are the best places to find chicas? The clubs like Blackbeards, how is it inside? Is it like a go go bar? Thanks for any help there.[/QUOTE]

Prices vary from say $30USD to over $100USD for FS. Sometimes you get what you pay for. Add an incentive to the mix...the better she performs, the more you will donate...start low.

Sosua has action all around...on the beach, streets, at the bars, in the casino, etc. Why stay at Blackbeards? It's an ok place to visit in the day just to check it out, but its out of the way from all the action. It's no go go bar. Its a hotel with chicas on site that try to please you for donations. Looks nice inside and out, but again, far from the action.

Anyone else? Feel free to PM me or post here.

Have fun, play safe!

MISTER NYC :D

I have several questions. I plan on staying at Blackbeard’s but some of you guys keep on insisting on Sosua but I can’t find a guide on Sosua HELP?

Also say I want a DR chic to come to America to visit how hard is it to make it happen?

Finally I am a man who likes nice BIG brown round asses will I be disappointed like I was in Mexico(50% chance in Mexico that the pants are making her ass look nice and big).

Dear Play02,

The town of Costambar where Blackbeards is located 25 min west of Puerto Plata. The town is very nice, but remote for action. Blackbeards and El Principal are the only action there. Prices at Blackbeards are fixed at 1500st and 3000lt. El Principal 2000lt plus 500 Pesos Salida. Unlike Sosua, which you can walk from end to end, Costambar requires cab rides. I spent March,May and Aug at Blackbeards. In March I will be in Sosua, for a change of pace,lower prices and more action.

Play, to each his own and you have to decide what you like. Many of us like to be in the mix of the local scene and action. However, if you like your experience packaged for your convenience, then BB is for you. Everything is on site and you don't have to leave. Get up, eat on site, sit by the pool, chicas on-site at R$1500-$3000 (although I think they lowered the prices?), go right to your room, shower, sit at the bar, play pool, eat dinner.

On the other hand, in Sousa you never know where you are gonna score - stay at the palace, walk out on the street, go to the beach, Shark bar, rocky's, M&M massage, Passions - pussy everywhere and for varying prices. You can get what you want for R$500-$1000, just try. Just so many options in Sousa, that it seems like the best way to experience it. Or at least, spend 3 days at the Palace and then 3 at BB!

I was there same last week of nov 2004, just missed the bikini contest with 30min, but catched my plane, I did not bring the print out of the sticker price, but as far as I can remember it was 1300st/2600lt. Ok they seem to charge 4k for gfe/24h. However I paid 3k. Of course Peso

This seems to be quite steep though for the girls.

You will find a review of the place in the sosua and the puerto plata section.

I General, jup, they are more expensive, but i still did not mind paying that luxury tax and do like the tranquility of the place.

Will be back next year. However then i will also try yo be there last weekend of the month (Bikini party).

Oh and yeah there were some big bottomed girls too, but i prefer the slender ones and GFE, so can't tell you which one of those excelled.

Have Funn!

I can't get in from my office, so I may take a while to get back to you, Sorry!

[QUOTE=*******]I can't get in from my office, so I may take a while to get back to you, Sorry![/QUOTE]


You should be in Sosua by the time you get this one too! See ya when I see ya. Hopefully not too many times though...LOL.


MISTER NYC :D


P.s. BB...why stay there? Comfort zone? what comfort zone? Most of you are heading into foreign land to begin with for the first time and leaving your comfort zone behind! If you really want to jump into the mix and real action, stay in Sosua at one of the monger friendly places and roam around and be pleasant. You will find many that you can just pick up and take back for a good time....guaranteed!

I know a lot of you guys are very experienced and knowledgeable when it comes to DR. Not only girls. We all know girls like money. I read on the Internet that Banks in DR pay up to 24% in peso or up to 14% in US $$$.

Does anybody have bank account in DR Banks? Can somebody knowledgeable enlighten a poor newbie in this are? Lots of thx

[QUOTE=Cork Sucker]I know a lot of you guys are very experienced and knowledgeable when it comes to DR. Not only girls. We all know girls like money. I read on the Internet that Banks in DR pay up to 24% in peso or up to 14% in US $$$.

Does anybody have bank account in DR Banks? Can somebody knowledgeable enlighten a poor newbie in this are? Lots of thx[/QUOTE]

Yes, this is true, but keep in mind of the given currency exchange and government risks. There was once a finance house, like in DR, that was in business for years...close to 30 I think, that had billions of USD under management, and guess what...the brothers who ran the finance house disappeared and so did most of the money, if not all of it. If I am wrong on my finance history, please someone...correct me.

Finance houses will pay up to 14% in USD, but complete liquidity might be a issue...most of the clients I know live there and happily gave there cash portfolio over to this finance house in exchange for this 14% via a monthly income check...get my point? What happens if you need to withdraw $100,000+. These finance houses lend your money for real estate or businesses (loans/private mortgages) and charge the end client/the borrower up to 40%...the client and finance house split the profits. This is just one example of how your money is used. There are also indexed investment certificates in Pesos issued by the central bank of DR.

A good reputable bank in DR for a dollar or peso account is Banco Santa Cruz. You would normally need your passport, a letter of good account status from your bank at home, and your deposit to open a account.

Hope this proves to be useful to someone.

MISTER NYC :D

[QUOTE=Cork Sucker]I know a lot of you guys are very experienced and knowledgeable when it comes to DR. Not only girls. We all know girls like money. I read on the Internet that Banks in DR pay up to 24% in peso or up to 14% in US $$$.

Does anybody have bank account in DR Banks? Can somebody knowledgeable enlighten a poor newbie in this are? Lots of thx[/QUOTE]

Read DR1 for insight - generally speaking you are getting paid for the risk. If I retired there I would not keep more than a few thousand for spending in a Dominican bank, period. Bad idea.

It is true. Most banks that offer the highest interest are usually fly by night banks. A lot of people end up losing all their money. I met up with some guys while on vacation last month and was told to try the National Bank. I think it is called Banreservas. I am not sure of the name. They do not offer the really high rates, but it is still better than in the US. One guy deposited about 40 grand, and is going on vacation to the DR every few of months on the interest alone. They offer interest but you have to have the interest deposited into another bank. Usually try to go for American owned banks. They are a lot more stable. To do all this you need to have a bank in the US to write you a letter of recomendation. Sorry that is all the info I have for now. If you would like more info just ask. I can always call my buddy and get all the info needed.

As reported in DR1 today:
Exchange rate helps government
Finance Minister Vicente Bengoa says that the government has met the requirements of the stand by arrangement with the International Monetary Fund despite the rising price of petroleum because of the appreciation of the peso. As reported in Hoy newspaper, he said that the exchange rate has been fluctuating between RD$28-RD$29 to the US$1, or about 100% less than it was eight months.......[he further remarked] that the government has a surplus in its finances compared to what had been estimated for the first quarter of the year. END ---



Guys, as you all know - immediately following the Fernandez election the peso exploded to a level of less than 30 to 1 versus the usd. This level was far less than what many of us enjoyed in mid-2004 when the rate was closer to 53 to 1.

Subsequently, a number of well meaning players on this board predicted that this price level "couldn't last for long", that "it was only a matter of time" before things returned to the way they were before. There was even a rumor floated out there that a large/influential group of AI owners had banned together and were petitioning the government to return the peso to its pre-election price because it was effectively "killing" tourism!

(None of this did a blessed thing)

At this point [imo] it seems that the Fernandez administration is quite content with the position of the national currency and is likely to exert the pressure necessary to insure that it continues to trade at current levels.
A strong peso helps ease the amount of national debt, presents a disciplined financial posture to the IMF, and helps offset the pressure from rising fuel costs.

Don't expect the peso to tank anytime soon if the current administration has anything to say about it. Patience and negotiating skill are going to be the keys to fun in the DR in 2005. ;)

Cheers,
(economic ranting)
FORD

[QUOTE=Ford]As reported in DR1 today:
Exchange rate helps government
Finance Minister Vicente Bengoa says that the government has met the requirements of the stand by arrangement with the International Monetary Fund despite the rising price of petroleum because of the appreciation of the peso. As reported in Hoy newspaper, he said that the exchange rate has been fluctuating between RD$28-RD$29 to the US$1, or about 100% less than it was eight months.......[he further remarked] that the government has a surplus in its finances compared to what had been estimated for the first quarter of the year. END ---

Guys, as you all know - immediately following the Fernandez election the peso exploded to a level of less than 30 to 1 versus the usd. This level was far less than what many of us enjoyed in mid-2004 when the rate was closer to 53 to 1.

Subsequently, a number of well meaning players on this board predicted that this price level "couldn't last for long", that "it was only a matter of time" before things returned to the way they were before. There was even a rumor floated out there that a large/influential group of AI owners had banned together and were petitioning the government to return the peso to its pre-election price because it was effectively "killing" tourism!

(None of this did a blessed thing)

At this point [imo] it seems that the Fernandez administration is quite content with the position of the national currency and is likely to exert the pressure necessary to insure that it continues to trade at current levels.

A strong peso helps ease the amount of national debt, presents a disciplined financial posture to the IMF, and helps offset the pressure from rising fuel costs.

Don't expect the peso to tank anytime soon if the current administration has anything to say about it. Patience and negotiating skill are going to be the keys to fun in the DR in 2005. ;)

Cheers,
(economic ranting)
FORD[/QUOTE]Ford

I was reading the Sousa section and noticed something about New York Mongers paying sky high prices for pussy.

There is an Sex tour outfit called Domincan Pleasures with the top dog getting his customers from New York. $100 USD for pussy in DR. Shit might as well stay home right. Wrong.

Mexico is 11 to 1 exchange rate so perspective. The probelm is not the exchange rate but mongering dummies. Lets find a way to get the word out.

I will send an email to Charles the operator of Domican pleasures and notify him of this problem. He has a group in Sousa right now and another scheduled for April. PM if you want his email.

========================

I am a hard core Lurker for over a year.

Finally had something to contribute.

I should be there in April.

My dick and I will travel the world mongering. High Quilty Pics than the norm to follow.

First stop Domincan Republic Sousa area.

Rick out

Hi Amber Wrath,

These pro-tours are nothing new they have been around for ever! As long as there are "players" out there who refuse to work on their Spanish, and don't care how much money they throw around on their two weeks off of work - these tour opertors will continue to make easy $$.

Pick up your old high school Spanish workbook for a couple of days and then spend a week in the country - and you'll quickly realize what a rip-off these [so called] professional tour groups are. ;)

FORD

Can someone recommend where I can find basic info on visiting DR (and Sosua) and some trip reports.

There are a lot of interactive posts on the forum nowadays, which is fine, but it is becoming more and more difficult for newbies to find basic info.

Maybe a question for Jackson, should there be a separate place for FAQ's and extensive trip reports, at least for the most popular destinations?

Thanks,

Jay

You will find countless trip reports on here, but once again, you just have to be motivated enough to seek and you will find what you are looking for. I remember spending many hours on here reading and writing down some notes to myself for my first dive into Paradise. It's definately worth it. Thank you everyone who contributes to this board.

MISTER NYC :D

[QUOTE=Mister]You will find countless trip reports on here, but once again, you just have to be motivated enough to seek and you will find what you are looking for. I remember spending many hours on here reading and writing down some notes to myself for my first dive into Paradise. It's definately worth it. Thank you everyone who contributes to this board.

MISTER NYC :D[/QUOTE]

Well said Mister! - spend a few hours "plowing" thru the many detailed and informative reports on these boards and it will pay you back many times over, and for years to come!

Cheers.

Some Dominican beauties, the Miss Dominican Republic elections.

[url]http://www.ip.com.do/missrd/index.html[/url]

[QUOTE=Cujo60]was told to try the National Bank. I think it is called Banreservas. I am not sure of the name. They do not offer the really high rates, but it is still better than in the US. One guy deposited about 40 grand, and is going on vacation to the DR every few of months on the interest alone. They offer interest but you have to have the interest deposited into another bank. [/QUOTE]

Banco Reservas is a retail bank owned by the Central bank of the DR. If you have accounts or CD's there they pay you interest like any other bank, have ATM's and so forth, in your account with them not elsewhere.

You may be confusing the Central Bank short term notes with Banco Reservas.

The peso interest rates of before ( were near 60%) have fallen and the US interest rates are slightly better than at home. It or Banco Popular or Scotiabank (who took over the failed Baniter locations) are about the same. US banks are subsidiaries and not guaranteed by the US parent and as we saw in Argentina that doesn't always mean 100% safety. There are a lot fewer US banks if you are not in the capital but for decent service and rates, shop around, any of the big 3 are adequate.

I've recently put my paper work in for two weeks of vacation in May. I'm thinking DR is the place to go for the best action and mix of girls. My concern is where do I find the best mix of young phat Bonda and beautiful huge breast? And which town has the best mix of Dominican and Haitian Women? I haven't made any reservation as of yet. I'm waiting on some good replies. All information will be greatly appreciated.

Thank you!

I read in the newspaper that the DR government wants to put an end on the sex tourism. The general attorney Francisco Brito wants to close all the MP, bars, strips and other discos related to sex trade. The government is especially concerned about child prostitution.

I don't think the government will succeed in making an end of prostitution. Yet, take care guys, as many crackdowns are expected within the next coming months.

Yes, the crack down has already started in the south as others have already pointed out on here and on other boards. The whole country is out of whack and have there priorities all fucked up! If these fine establishments do get closed down, they will most likely move underground like in many major US cities and the girls on the streets will still be easy to find.

Someone on another board pointed out a article in a DR paper that cited electric problems leading to higher SW activity in the capital with 30-50 peso BJ on the street and in parks...WOW! That is definately the dominican rate.

MISTER NYC :D

[QUOTE=Superion]Euro guy,

That is BULLSHIT.

Yes,Brazil has better looking hookers. I'll concede that nonetheless I think that the DR offers other intangibles that make it preferable to Brazil.

1st off, Brazilians are NOT friendlier. In fact many of those bastards are just plain stuck up.

When in the DR,try to meet regular people instead of people that work in prostitution/pimping field. Yes THESE people are definately the ones that are only friendly when they want something out of you.

Brazilian non-pro girls are almost as bad as American girls.Not to mention the fact that some Brazilians have racist attitudes that put some racists here in the USA to shame.At least here in the USA a racist can admit that they are racist,unlike the racist Brazilians that can't even admit that racism exists in thier country.

Brazilians are friendlier than Dominicans? NO FUCKIN WAY.

Don't get me started.[/QUOTE]I am aware that this post is old as hell but; I agree brazilians are the most racist and fake people in the world. I have been to brazil many times and hear what they say and how they treat blacks/mulatos. Its horrible. At least in america a racist is a racist. In brazil if you have a bit of money oh you are an exception now you are no longer a low down purse snaching nigger, in america it dont matter if your driving a ferarri with a house in the hamptons your still a porch-monkey.

Just take a look at GLOBO TV and its quick to see that all the blacks play the parts of maids or servants. And they blattenley call them nigger on TV. They are very fake people.

Lastley I am married to a brazilian women and her friends are racist and yes sometimes I think she is a bit racist. They are so brainwashed over there thats its sad.

[QUOTE=Mister]

Someone on another board pointed out a article in a DR paper that cited electric problems leading to higher SW activity in the capital with 30-50 peso BJ on the street and in parks...WOW! That is definately the dominican rate.

MISTER NYC :D[/QUOTE]

Anyone with an ounce of DR experience would know that there are no $1-$1.66 BJs anywhere in the country.

Yes, these dominican rates in the hobby do exist in our Paradise. There are even dominican ***** houses that only charge like 300 pesos for a quickie. *****s on the streets of DR, like in the capital, do offer low rates for quickies to locals....real locals....not tourists. As far as how low the rates are, I can not personally confirm that, but other locals I know have. Seek and you shall find.

Enjoy...what you can but don't doubt anything in DR. It's all possible.

MISTER NYC :D

I am week removed from 7 days in Sosua and 3 days in Santo Domingo. It was my fifth time in 2 years down to DR, and it is close to my last time there.

I wont go into huge details about my mongering. It was certainly plentiful. Averaged about 2 takedowns a day with a few overnights. I am embarrassed to say that my average price was over 1000 pesos for a short stay, and over 1500 pesos for overnight…and I speak fluent Spanish. Also, let me say that DR will always serve a great mongering purpose for many out there. I see myself going there again because is flat-out fun as hell to booze and bang chics with such ease with your boys or fellow mongers…whatever the quality is (that is what beer and Viagra is for).

So, back to my trip. In Sosua, I noticed that the quality is deteriorating fast. Maybe because most of my other visits have been in the summer, but I noticed a lot of the same old hoe$. just this time more tired-looking, fat, etc. Basically, the averages were 4-7s, with very few better than that. More disturbing was the attitude of the chicas. I mean, these chics are more commercial and vulture than ever. The exchange rate was at 22 when I first visited Sosua in Mar. 03. Then, chics were thrilled with even 800 pesos and would do you for 500 no problem. Overnights were 1000 pesos and great. Last July, we boned chics for TWO DAYS for 1500-1800 pesos. Now, these hoes were TURNING DOWN 1000 pesos after starting at 2000 and working down to 1500, and not even for the night. I mean, I speak good Spanish, and am okay looking, and know the game. These hoe$ used to be hungry, and would still settle for 1000 pesos, f*ck what the exchange rate was. Now, its like these hoe$ have more respect or better yet, more confidence that some sucker would eventually come around and f*ck for 2000 pesos without a problem. These girls in Sosua only need to meet three to five dudes a month to give them 2000 pesos a bang in order for them to be on par with real working chics in DR. They are on to the game, and that’s the bad thing…its like the Bohem and Crystals mentality has poured onto the streets and bars =(

I will say there were plenty in Sosua who were still hungry, and logical, and took the 1000-1200 peso price as a godsend. But they were the lower quality babes, or the occasional hot *newbie tail from La Vega, or Nagua, or San Fransisco, or some other ‘campo’ town without plumbing. * They were VERY far and few between. All-in-all, Sosua still serves a great purpose because the abundance is still staggering. But seeing a lot of the same a$$, and low quality p*ssy just made me drink a lot more, which lowered the quality of experiences I did eventually take down. A real observation that in the barrios of Charramicos, La Union, and other barrios of Sosua and Puerto Plata, action there for the locals is literally 300 pesos, no BULLSHIT.

In my short time in Santo Domingo for the second time, I was sorely disapointed. Don’t visit Santo Domingo unless you 1) know fluent Spanish, 2) have time to invest in meeting semi-pro and non-pro tail (I. e, stay for a week or moreA). It is a great place to spend a few weeks, meeting local college girls, workers, etc…who would not mind the supplemental income from being a short-term novia. But full-time pro action was depressing. First, at Jaragua, the chicks were were pricey and NOT hot (unlike my last visit). They were generally older, and fatter, and more aggressive, and sleazier…AND would not take less than 2000 pesos. They may have if I tried hard, but for 5-7s, I’d rather not bend over backwards. Even street hoe$ outside of the casinos didn’t go lower than 1500 pesos, and by that time, 1000 peso was my absolute max. I am very disappointed with 2005 SD versus my trip in 2003. Then, I met a chica at the Malecon Libre celebration, and boned her for 2 days, giving her nothing but cab fare home twice. awesome!

Also, a warning about Casa Teresa—don’t waste your f*cking time. The chicks are definitely 7-10s. But you wanna talk about cold-fish pussy! We had TERRIBLE experiences for a whopping 2500 pesos all-in. I was livid, but obviously couldn’t ask for a refund. Basically, the chics get paid up-front, and have little incentive to show you a good time. Our girls literally just laid there! They say you have the room for 2 hours, but after your load, they are quick to move on. I would have been better off drinking brews while looking at hot Dominican a$$, and then beating off in the bathroom! That may have cost just as much though, with beers costing 130 pesos!

Here is a SD recommendation. Get a cab driver to take you to some of the regular dance clubs in Zona Colonial, or Trio Café, or the clubs on Avenida Venzuela or Avenida San Vicente. You are approaching the barrios with the last two, but there is GREAT local action, speak Spanish and have the cabbie wait for you outside in the last two, especially if you’re an obvious gringo. There was also a lot of street action on Avendia Ortega something (where Casa Teresa was). Some were trannies, but the real-girl action seemed okay for quickies.

All in all, I still recommend DR. Value in Sosua and SD, will be harder to find unless you have time and Spanish up your sleave. Pussy is still out there in abundance, and if you make it to more remote cities, you have less abundance, but much better experiences, such as Samana, Jarabacoa, Rio San Juan, Nagua, San Pedro, La Romana, get out and explore, and you’ll enjoy. Limit yourself to the 4 block radius around Europa Hotel in Sosua or Jaragua Casino in SD, and you’ll be disappointed. Also, the crackdown will eventually trickle down and force these broke and illiterate hoe$ with bambinos to feed to see the light, and prices will move accordingly.

I appreciate your good report and I agree. During my recent April trip I found Santo Domingo disappointing, especially since I was only there one night.

BTW, I was at Casa Teresa and passed on action there fearing the type of action you described. Unless there is an adjustment in prices I am just going to look for GFEs and non-pros.

Monger On,

JD

Here´s a question.

Related to a mens wardrobe, what is a unique characteristic of the city of Miami?

ans. It is the southernmost city in the western hemisphere where it is both socially and fashionably acceptable for men to wear shorts.

As you continue to venture further and further south and journey thru latin America the temperature grows and grows but the shorts come off and on go the jeans, khakis and cargo pants. Sweat though you may you´re looking to score not dressing for comfort -so you need to blend.

Wear shorts anywhere in *Real* Latin america and you are nothing more than a major maricon/pato and you´re not going to enjoy seeing what you pick up with this look! ;)

btw, if you don´t know what those words mean - stay out of latin america!

Just some various brain droppings from your friend the "Ford-ster"

cheers.........

[QUOTE=Ford]Here´s a question.

ans. It is the southernmost city in the western hemisphere where it is both socially and fashionably acceptable for men to wear shorts.

Wear shorts anywhere in *Real* Latin america and you are nothing more than a major madecon/pato and you´re not going to enjoy seeing what you pick up with this look! ;)
cheers.........[/QUOTE]

I agree as far as Central America goes -shorts= hippie tourists with no money. The DR is less of a hassle in the beach towns. I have no idea what a "madecon" is though. Maricon?

Yes, maricon. Another typo. I`m typing this from a internet cafe/ pollo a la brasso in Caracas Venezula. Keys stick, keyboard sucks thanks.

I have typed my Caracas reports over about 5 times each trying to correct typos. ;)

btw, yes when I traveled to Nicaragua I didn`t even pack shorts. The only people I encountered in shorts were in the Town of Granada. They were a collection of gringos who were more interested in their assortment of "smoking bongs" than they were in women.

cheers GP.............

[QUOTE=Ford]Yes, maricon. Another typo. I`m typing this from a internet cafe/ pollo a la brasso in Caracas Venezula. Keys stick, keyboard sucks thanks.

I have typed my Caracas reports over about 5 times each trying to correct typos. ;)

btw, yes when I traveled to Nicaragua I didn`t even pack shorts. The only people I encountered in shorts were in the Town of Granada. They were a collection of gringos who were more interested in their assortment of "smoking bongs" than they were in women.

cheers GP.............[/QUOTE]

Being thought of as a backpacking American or a maricon is equally embarrassing. No a gay backpacking American I suppose. It is normal to see campesinos without two cents to rub together with a long sleeved shirt buttoned at the collar and long pants. Not a lot of suit jackets though, thank God. it is hot enough.

Santo Domingo or Boca Chica???. I will be going to the Dominican on July 14 and would like recommendations on what is the best place for nightlife and mongering. Are there any properties you would recommend for me to stay at? I would prefer something beachfront and of course girl friendly. What is the nightlife like at the moment and of course the mongering. Anything else I should be aware of or checkout?. Thanks in advance for any information you can provide me. Anyone there want to meet up for a drink or two or three?.

Does anyone know anything about this property? " Hotetur Dominican Bay" I found it on a website and it looks like it is a real nice property and the price is right. Your responses are greatly appreciated!

I will be going to DR in a few weeks would like to know if any of the spas's reopen??

Thanks,

Kid Cisco

I am writing this from an internet cafe in western Costa Rica. My computer crashed two weeks ago and I lost all my damn files. I have a bunch of Pms sitting here unanswered. Ill answer all when im home and things are back up and running.

cheers to all............

There has not been any responses to my posts #503 and #504. I sure would be greatful for any information you can provide me! Again thank you!

Are there any charter companies that are flying from anywhere in Florida to Santo Domingo?

I don't think it's been mentioned here before, but the entry requirements into the DR from the US change at the end of the year. You [u]will[/u] need a passport to enter, instead of the current flexibility of getting in on either a passport or birth certificate & photo ID.

This info was sent to my job (where we process passports) in a letter from the State Department.

[QUOTE=Baltimonger]I don't think it's been mentioned here before, but the entry requirements into the DR from the US change at the end of the year. You [u]will[/u] need a passport to enter, instead of the current flexibility of getting in on either a passport or birth certificate & photo ID.

This info was sent to my job (where we process passports) in a letter from the State Department.[/QUOTE]It a lot more easier to travel w/ passport anyway!

[QUOTE=On The Go]Santo Domingo or Boca Chica???. I will be going to the Dominican on July 14 and would like recommendations on what is the best place for nightlife and mongering. Are there any properties you would recommend for me to stay at? I would prefer something beachfront and of course girl friendly. What is the nightlife like at the moment and of course the mongering. Anything else I should be aware of or checkout?. Thanks in advance for any information you can provide me. Anyone there want to meet up for a drink or two or three?.[/QUOTE]If you are looking for nightlife action then-go NORTH my friend Sosua is where you wanna go! There are a number of places to stay Sosua Palace for one and Europa another which are chica friendly very reasonable in price.

[QUOTE=Baltimonger]I don't think it's been mentioned here before, but the entry requirements into the DR from the US change at the end of the year. You [u]will[/u] need a passport to enter, instead of the current flexibility of getting in on either a passport or birth certificate & photo ID.

This info was sent to my job (where we process passports) in a letter from the State Department.[/QUOTE]


......... very good point Baltimonger! I knew about this but you are right it hasn't been mentioned here. This is great for us!!!! With a tightening of entry requiremnets in the DR this means many people will choose other destinations. Afterall, the entire caribbean is competing for the same piece of the tourism "pie".

Less travelers means potentially less competition and potentially reduced prices - or at least we can hope! :)

cheers

Are there any public buses running between Punta Cana and Santo Domingo? Or at least between Punta Cana and Higuey? If so, does anyone know their timetable or any website where I can find it out?

I know that Punta Cana is not the place to be for a monger, that’s why I need info about how to get out of there asap if I finally book a flight into PC airport (which is at the moment much cheaper than others).

Thanks in advance,

....but the DR is becoming too expensive in the realm of lodging and transportation. All of this is of course due to the crappy exchange rate and the fact that most establishments have thier prices pegged to the time when the peso was at 50 to 1 dollar. These bastards refuse to come down in thier prices!

Anyway, there are many more destinations that are more cost effective in this realm. Also, I find some of the accomodations to be rather sub par when compared to other 3rd world countries. Yeah, I've always known this, but when I was only paying about 20 dollars a night for a room 2 years ago that now costs me about 45, I know it's time to move on.

Also, if you're in the DR and can speak the language then by all means rent a car. The motoconchos/ taxis and other schiesters are a pain in the ass at time. Though there ARE some good taxi drivers etc. I'd rather not deal with them. I swear I would have shot one of the motoconcho drivers that I had an encounter with in Puerto Plata if I had the right tools with me. Some of these monkeys think that an American/ Moroccan foreigner like myself would be intimidated by some of these clowns. What a joke.

Food can still be obtained relatively cheaply, so I can't comment on that.

I was in the DR at the same time as Jimmy DR and his crew, but unfortunately I was not able to meet them since I was in another part of the island at the time.

I hear Jimmy bragging about his 500 peso blowjobs, but I don't see whats so special at all. Being the cheap bastard that I am, I still think that this is too much for a BJ. Also consider that this is over 15 dollars for a blowjob. I don't see the deal here. In Brazil I can fuck a big bootied blonde chick for an hour(or more) for the price of this 500 peso blowjob.

I hear guys complaining about Sosua girls etc. raising thier prices blah blah blah. Personally I've never liked Sosua since it's so touristy, but to eac thier own. I'm sure though, that groups of guys still have a good time there. Listen carefully: IF one gets AWAY from the touristy areas then there are still places to find girls that will fuck for 500 pesos.....and it's the norm, not any negotiatied pricing. I'm hesitant to reveal any of these places. The only catch is that one may have to pay a salida of 200 pesos or something like that....so in essence the normal price to fuck will hover in the range of 800-1000 pesos when all the beers, salidas, drinks for friends(don't act like you guys don't do it) are all added up. To me this is STILL expensive when compared to other destinations that I've been to. It's not really the normal Dominican's fault, it's simply the fact that I've been spoiled by the time when the dollar fetched about 50 pesos.

Girls:

I think the DR can be underrated at times in the terms of it's women. I've noticed that many guys on these boards have a preference for black chicas, which is fine I guess, but one would get the impression that these are the only girls available on the island and this most certainly is not true. I do admit though that in many places black girls seem to predominate the pro scene despite the fact the Dominican Republic is a very mixed country(not as mixed as Brazil but close).

I spent some time in the interior of the country where I was surprised to find endless towns composed of mostly caucasian looking Dominicans. The cat houses in these towns are obviously supplied with whiter chicas, with long flowing hair and more of the sterotypical looking latina.

Also the regular women walking the streets of the DR are just as fine as any other groups of latinas, just as good as Brazil(the pro scene in the DR cnnot hold a candle to Brazil's though.) If you do not agree with me then you haven't been to the interior. The coastal cities in the DR are mostly black cities whereas the interior is dominiated by white Dominicans. The capital, Santo Domingo has large amounts of afro Dominicans too, but since it's the capital you can find everything there. I had seen plenty of caucasian Dominican streetwalkers in the capital while driving around at night. I'm NOT recommending street walkers in the capital away from the malecon because many of those broads snort coke. Apparently the crack epedemic hasn't hit the DR yet and they still use the powdered form.

I'll continue this report later, but all in all I'll return to the DR again just not anytime soon. Also, I'll be sure to rent a car for my whole trip and lock down some decent accomodations that won't dent my pocket too much if thats possible nowadays.

In Brazil and Thailand I can rent a fully furnished modern apartment for about 15 dollars a day, whereas in the DR I would only get a shitty room with a cieling fan that probably hasn't been cleaned properly. In one these DR rooms the toilet wasn't even cleaned and there was still dried up shit on the toilet seat.

I still get nausea thinking about it.

More to come.

[QUOTE=Gladiator]Are there any public buses running between Punta Cana and Santo Domingo? Or at least between Punta Cana and Higuey? If so, does anyone know their timetable or any website where I can find it out?

I know that Punta Cana is not the place to be for a monger, that’s why I need info about how to get out of there asap if I finally book a flight into PC airport (which is at the moment much cheaper than others).

Thanks in advance,[/QUOTE]

There are girls available in the town of San Pedro de Macoris. I was there last fall, and hooked up with a pretty little 22 year old morena. I couldn't seem to place any specific casas so I solicted the help of some of the motoconcho drivers around the church. One of them hooked me up.

Our kind of fun is available in just about every town of reasonable size in the country. If you can speak Spanish at at least %50, just "push the issue" around the locals in town and they will direct you.

(Kind of crumby town with horrid potholes everywhere)

cheers...........

Thanks Ford, I appreciate that info and I’ll take it into account.

I intend to book my flight next week, I’m looking for a late deal and am open to different options. If I fly to POP or Cuba it will be OK, but if I end up flying into Punta Cana I haven’t got yet the faintest idea of how to get out of there without having to spend a fortune on one of the rip-off taxi drivers outside the airport.

[quote=gladiator]thanks ford, i appreciate that info and i’ll take it into account.

i intend to book my flight next week, i’m looking for a late deal and am open to different options. if i fly to pop or cuba it will be ok, but if i end up flying into punta cana i haven’t got yet the faintest idea of how to get out of there without having to spend a fortune on one of the rip-off taxi drivers outside the airport.[/quote]

i think i might consider getting some glasses. ;)

you asked about public buses and i read it as "public houses". i thought you were asking about casa de citas. i answered a different question.

you're right taxi's are going to rob you on that long a ride, but some of the gua guas make these long distance rides at crazy/dangerous speeds. not best for the faint of heart! (lol)

flying into the closest airport to where you want to be is [obviously] always your best bet.

cheers........

‘Public houses’… that’s funny, it sounds like a monger Freudian slip.

I also have that kind of slips sometimes: a few weeks ago I was walking along one street in my *****less Western Europe city and I saw surprisingly a sign saying ‘Bar & Girls’, but when I read it for the second time I realised that in fact it said ‘Bar & Grill’, I couldn’t help laughing at my Freudian slip and my monger one-track mind.

[QUOTE=Gladiator]‘Public houses’… that’s funny, it sounds like a monger Freudian slip.

I also have that kind of slips sometimes: a few weeks ago I was walking along one street in my *****less Western Europe city and I saw surprisingly a sign saying ‘Bar & Girls’, but when I read it for the second time I realised that in fact it said ‘Bar & Grill’, I couldn’t help laughing at my Freudian slip and my monger one-track mind.[/QUOTE]


Ha ha ha , yes I know what you mean. I however, don't live in a *****less western European City. I live in the USA, which is the epicenter of puritanical, provincial *****less cities!!

I'm going to go out right now and see if i can't find a "Bar & Girls" establishment that's still open (lol) :)

cheers...................

Hi guys,

could any of you inform me about prices of cellular phones?
I was intrested in buying one when i arrive in SD end september;a prepaid thingy.
How is the coverage? And which companies are best??
Does anyone have a clue about the costs per minute?

TIA

Johan


PS: or should I bring my left over cell from panama...and unlock it on the DR and just buy a sim card(if that's possible)?

Hello Brothers,

I plan on taking a short vacation from Asia and head to the DR. I would like some recommendations as to which city is the best for all around vacation and mongering. Appreciate your help.

LA

Just read through the posts on the Dominican and you will see that the Dominican Republic is NOT the place for you to visit and monger at this time for all the reasons that are stated in the recent posts. I am a monger who is experienced in Asia myself, and you will be totally disappointed as the mongering in the Dominican Republic at this time is nothing compared to Southeast Asia. My suggestion to you is to checkout Costa Rica, Columbia or Brazil if you are looking to monger in a new area. I am sure you will find yourself having a much better time.

Hi On the go...

I would recommend Colombia if you want to see "new areas"...and especialy the jungle area. Realy nice animales....etc...etc and also very nice surroundings. Please go and visit and take your digicam and your shorts with you if you go!!! OOO and please don't learn spanish. You will have plenty of oppertunities to learn it there!!!;-)

Costa Rica???? OO man...that country is allready swarming with gringos and even Russian hookers in San Jose!
Are you KIDDING me??? You won't find "adventure" there.....!


I am not a racist but if you are Asian looking why don't you try Thailand,Vietnam,The Philipines or even China???
It's well known that many latinos (and Latinas aswell) are racists. That's not my fault...that's a simple fact.

IF you realy want "safe" adventure try out Paraguay or maybe Nicaragua!!!


Johan.


[QUOTE=On The Go]Just read through the posts on the Dominican and you will see that the Dominican Republic is NOT the place for you to visit and monger at this time for all the reasons that are stated in the recent posts. I am a Asian monger myself and you will be totally disappointed. My suggestion to you is to checkout Costa Rica, Columbia or Brazil if you are looking to adventure in a new area. I am sure you will find yourself having a much better time.[/QUOTE]

Your response to my post says alot about your intelligence as I am a white American and I was only responding to a post by LoveAsia, expressing my views after my recent trip to the DR. Is'nt this what this board is suppose to be about?.

Your response was totally uncalled for.

Does anyone know what is the % in the USA of the population? It seems a very high % of the population in the DR considering elderly and children are also counted. I hope the research is exaggerating. Let me think twice about using condoms in the DR.

From the DR1 news:

Researchers study number of AIDS/HIV patients in DR

A thesis presented at the Catholic University of Santo Domingo (UCSD) is estimating the number of people infected with AIDS/HIV to be 2.4% of the population. A total of 141,630 adults are living with HIV and new cases are expected to reach 29,000 in 2005. Since the beginning of the AIDS epidemic, the researchers think that 79,000 people have died in the Dominican Republic from the disease. Researchers Emily Virginia Reyes Feliz and Gary Grullon Lopez found that 46.2% of the cases are located in Santo Domingo and surrounding towns, and 5.9% are located in Santiago de los Caballeros. Other cities, such as San Cristobal (4.2%) and San Juan de la Maguana (4.1%) were also studied. One interesting aspect of the study reveals that many of the victims (50%) abandon plans to commit suicide, and turn to God, making plans for the future and establishing goals for their lives. Much of the study was conducted at the Salvador B. Gautier Hospital in Santo Domingo. The researchers also concluded that globally the Caribbean is the area with the second highest incidence of AIDS, and amongst the Dominican population, AIDS is the leading cause of death in adults between the ages of 15 and 44 years of age. Young women under the age of 24 are twice as likely to be infected as young men of the same age.

**from dr1 07/25/2005 - millions for dominican image**
the government plans to spend us$23 million on promoting the dominican republic's image this year. the country has been and will be represented at 87 tourism fairs around the world ....... dr1 sources indicate that fiona gilmore from the uk, who is one of the world's leading authorities on country branding, has been contracted to advise on the branding of the dominican republic. she is expected to begin work in the fall.

on the positive side, tourism promotion efforts in russia, mexico, finland and argentina have produced increased flows of tourists from these areas. russian tourists increased by 111% and from finland by 605%. nevertheless, russian tourism is expected to decline given that the cost of a visa to the dr has now been set at eur250.


..........how come nobody solicited my help? ;) i would advise them to stop tinkering with what's not broken and stop running out the loyal tourist base that the dr has already established. yippee doo dah, tourism from finland is up 605% - that basically means that 4 finnish people traveled to the dr in 2003 and now they have 24!;)

meanwhile, literally thousands of "players" are dumping the dr for friendlier destinations in s. and c. america. (you do the math!)

ford

[QUOTE=LoveAsia]Hello Brothers,

I plan on taking a short vacation from Asia and head to the DR. I would like some recommendations as to which city is the best for all around vacation and mongering. Appreciate your help.

LA[/QUOTE]

Hi LA,

I've been to every single crevice of this country and your best bet is Sosua/Cabarete area on the northcoast right now. I absolutely love the capital SDQ, its my favorite place, but I wouldn't go near Santo Domingo with the peso currently at 28.45 rdp to 1 usd.

At these exchange levels the price for food, drink and fun is going to be astronomical! Northcoast destinations are a [bit] more manageable.

cheers,
FORD

"tourism from Finland is up 605% - that basically means that 4 Finnish people traveled to the DR in 2003 and now they have 24!"

No, six times as many is only a 500% increase. You need seven times as many for a 600% increase so you'd need 28 Finnish people.

Hope that helps.

[url]http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/spl/hi/africa/03/aids_debate/html/regional_view_c.stm[/url]


Caribbean

The Caribbean remains the second-worst-affected region in the world. Although the cause there is predominantly hetrosexual, UNAids and the WHO say sex between men - which is highly stigmatised - is fuelling the epidemic. National HIV prevalence has reached or exceeded 3% in three Caribbean countries - the Bahamas, Trinidad and Tobago and Haiti. The Dominican Republic faces a serious epidemic, but public education is beginning to have an effect.

****

In CA Honduras faces also high rates of Hiv infections. Situation in Brasil seems been stabilising. (still hight rates!)

I would NOT recommend "barebacking" in any of above mentioned countries.
In fact i would not "bareback"at all.....no matter were.
Even a BJ without protection CAN be dangerous.

All you guys outthere doing girls without a rubber are just plain suicidial! It's only a question of time before you get infected!



Johan.

Hi,

I will be in DR in September.

What would be the best place to meet pros during the day?

Boca Chica seems perfect, as it is not far from the capitale. I mean that if I want to chat up non-pros.

Sosua seems to me much further from the capitale....Or any other suggestions?

Which hotels would allow me to bring a girl back without paying a fee?

Thanks in advance for your answers guys.

Hey guys,

I always want to go to DR but everyone tells me to stay in a resort because it very dang res to stay in the city I'm looking to meet girls and play have fun go out at night to clubs im from NY im looking to go with 2 of my friends I been to Brazil I had fun now im looking to go to DR can you tell me will it be safe for 2-3 single guys in DR at night and day.

[QUOTE=Twilod]Hey guys,

I always want to go to DR but everyone tells me to stay in a resort because it very dang res to stay in the city I'm looking to meet girls and play have fun go out at night to clubs im from NY im looking to go with 2 of my friends I been to Brazil I had fun now im looking to go to DR can you tell me will it be safe for 2-3 single guys in DR at night and day.[/QUOTE]Pay no attention to any "stay in a resort" nonsense. Go out and explore. Watch out for any cock grabbing chicas with fast hands. They are expert pick-pocketers.

I've wandered all over the place by my damn self at all hours of the day and night. Brazil is far more dangerous than DR.

*Volpone - You can meet pros during the day in both Boca Chica and Sosua, I like Sosua better. You could certainly meet plenty of girls on the northcoast at night and work out arrangements with them for "next day" fun. Outside of looking in on their kid(s) and maybe running an errand or two for their moms most of these girls will probably be more than happy to spend the day with you.

Is there some reason you feel you need to be near the capital? You're right Sosua is a haul, but is not too far from Santiago (the "capital" of the north) ;)

*Twilod- The DR is a relatively safe tourist destination. I've taken many trips never had any kind of problem. "Relatively" safe is pretty good when you're talking about Latin America. Honduras and Guatemala I found to be much more risky, with a "creepy" scary vibe in Zona 1 in Guate City and parts of San Pedro Sula, Honduras near the soccer stadium. In the Dominican Republic, parts of the capital SDQ are probably best left to day trips but if you keep your head about you, and when in doubt take a cab and you'll be fine!

cheers,
FORD

Hi Twilod,

the answer is YES.....as long as you stick to some basic rules. I don't have to repeat them here. I think you know what I mean.
In NY,Amsterdam or even in Oslo you also could get mugged,robbed or whatever. If you're alone,drunk and walking in an dark alley in a bad barrio....you're just asking to get mugged imho.hell you don't even have to be drunk! people will notice that you are gringo...even if you are a black guy.

Let me tell you this: The most stupid MISTAKE I ever made was (besides marrying my ex-wife) booking a tour to the DR (back in 2002) in a RESORT HOTEL!!!!!!!! First of all NO resort lets in girls. Forget about that. I tried it....even try to BRIBE the guard and the lobby guy.....didn't work!
Second of all these places are swarming with mommis,daddies and kids.....so you certainly will stick out being a (single traveling) male monger!! LOL
Thirdly i think the food is NOT that great in a resort. maybe i just had the bad luck to have a shitty resort.....but when I am in the DR i will LOVE to go out and dine. NO more resort food for this guy;-) Fuck...even for the desayuno I am going out! I hate most hotel breakfasts.

I second the issue that Brasil is more dangerous....in fact FAR more dangerous then DR. I have been hearing all kinds of sad stories about turistas being mugged etc...etc in Fortaleza and also Rio and SP. Also more and more busses get hijacked and travelers get robbed. The latest "hit"seems to be that criminals enter the hotels and "cream off" all guests!! You wouldn't DARE to compare Rio with Santo Domingo!!!!! Even in Colombia I felt more safe as in Brasil!!!


regards,

Johan

Hi Maybe Johan Can Help me out on this. I heard He will be in THE DR Next month. Hey Buddy I too am thinking of going to THE DR Early next year. I would stay mostly in Sosua and also In Santo Domingo. Can You help Me out on Cheap Hotels in those cities from the 12 to 15 Buck Range? If You Can Post back the info here soon.

[QUOTE=Johan007]Hi Twilod,

The answer is YES, as long as you stick to some basic rules. I don't have to repeat them here. I think you know what I mean.

In NY,Amsterdam or even in Oslo you also could get mugged,robbed or whatever. If you're alone,drunk and walking in an dark alley in a bad barrio....you're just asking to get mugged imho.hell you don't even have to be drunk! people will notice that you are gringo...even if you are a black guy.

Let me tell you this: The most stupid MISTAKE I ever made was (besides marrying my ex-wife) booking a tour to the DR (back in 2002) in a RESORT HOTEL! First of all NO resort lets in girls. Forget about that. I tried it, even try to BRIBE the guard and the lobby guy.....didn't work!

Second of all these places are swarming with mommis,daddies and kids, so you certainly will stick out being a (single traveling) male monger!! LOL

Thirdly i think the food is NOT that great in a resort. Maybe I just had the bad luck to have a shitty resort, but when I am in the DR i will LOVE to go out and dine. NO more resort food for this guy;-) Fuck, even for the desayuno I am going out! I hate most hotel breakfasts.

I second the issue that Brasil is more dangerous. In fact FAR more dangerous then DR. I have been hearing all kinds of sad stories about turistas being mugged etc...etc in Fortaleza and also Rio and SP. Also more and more busses get hijacked and travelers get robbed. The latest "hit"seems to be that criminals enter the hotels and "cream off" all guests!! You wouldn't DARE to compare Rio with Santo Domingo!!!!! Even in Colombia I felt more safe as in Brasil!

Regards,

Johan[/QUOTE]Thank you Johan and eveyone for the info!

What is the best city in DR to hit with nighlife and sexy girls and beaches!

[QUOTE=Nibu Raphael]Hi Maybe Johan Can Help me out on this. I heard He will be in THE DR Next month. Hey Buddy I too am thinking of going to THE DR Early next year. I would stay mostly in Sosua and also In Santo Domingo. Can You help Me out on Cheap Hotels in those cities from the 12 to 15 Buck Range? If You Can Post back the info here soon.[/QUOTE]


Hi Nibu,

what's up? Well I am also looking for a cheap hotel. BUT with all respect i don't think you wanna stay in the 10-15 US$ range priced hotels. I found out that most hotels start (in SD that is) arround 25 bucks or more.
If you seek something in 10 dollar range my guess would be you soon find yourself in somekind of "love-motel".....if you know what I mean.
(you do remember the "Polonia" Hotel in Lima.....right??? hahahahahahhahaha)
Well for one night this wouldn't be a problem...but to stay there for a longer period? I would NOT recommend such places to anyone. Security,hygiene and many other things would lack here.

Up north you should check up on Sosua,Caberete (if you are in for surfing),Puerto Plata etc.... Many cheap good hotels (mostly the socalled resorts) can be found here,starting form 20-25 US $ a DAY with all food. Only problem will be: THEY DO NOT ALLOW GUESTS.....!!!!!!!!!!
I have one good hotel for you run by a Dutch/Belgian couple.....very GF-friendly and not expensive. It's called the COCO HOTEL.
I stayed there 4-5 days back in 2002 and had good memories. The owner speaks english,spanish,german and dutch ofcourse....and could also arrange motocycles for rent,if you like that. He also is aware of the "scene" arround Sosua;-) He is a damn cool guy....when i was there he even lend me his jeep for an evening tour of the area!!! I think the pricings there are very cheap (20 bucks a day for a room). From a mongers point-of-view this place is just perfect.

[url]http://www.cocohotel.com/[/url]

For SD area prices will be up even more. I allready got one good link from a fellow monger (Gladiator) on THIS very board:

[url]http://www.hotelresidencia.com/[/url]

check it out NIBU. He told me in that area more such hotels are. Check out the SD section...for that.

Other problem will be your time of traveling Nibu: you go in january or february. At that time it's HIGH SAESON in the DR. (in fact also in most other SA holiday destinations) So prices will be UP for sure at that time. That is why you won't find anything decent for 10-15 bucks a day.....imho.

have fun!


Johan

Can anyone tell me the name of the resort that's located in DR where it's an exclusive sex resort? I remember seeing the report on Playboy TV. The girls are usually flown in from Europe and each person stays in their own bungalow with the girl. The girl stays with them for the entire duration of their stay at the resort. I believe there's only capacity for 4 or 5 people and the rates are something like $3,000 for a 3 night stay.

Thanks!

Taking A holiday in October. I'm not sure if I should go to the DR or go back to Amsterdam again. I've never been to the DR. Has anyone been to both places. Airfare is about the same for both destinations. Can I get any weed in the DR? Is there an abundance of girls to chose from in DR? Please help,

Any inforation is greatly appreciated. thank you.

[QUOTE=Spunshi]Can anyone tell me the name of the resort that's located in DR where it's an exclusive sex resort? I remember seeing the report on Playboy TV. The girls are usually flown in from Europe and each person stays in their own bungalow with the girl. The girl stays with them for the entire duration of their stay at the resort. I believe there's only capacity for 4 or 5 people and the rates are something like $3,000 for a 3 night stay.

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Hopes this helps.

[QUOTE=Spunshi]Can anyone tell me the name of the resort that's located in DR where it's an exclusive sex resort? I remember seeing the report on Playboy TV. The girls are usually flown in from Europe and each person stays in their own bungalow with the girl. The girl stays with them for the entire duration of their stay at the resort. I believe there's only capacity for 4 or 5 people and the rates are something like $3,000 for a 3 night stay.

Thanks![/QUOTE]

Either Suckerville or Idiotland one of the two. You can find the same girls where you live for less than $1000 a day.

[QUOTE=Grand Pollo]Either Suckerville or Idiotland one of the two. You can find the same girls where you live for less than $1000 a day.[/QUOTE]The DR is great was there in July!

[QUOTE=johnnyeuro]Taking A holiday in October. I'm not sure if I should go to the DR or go back to Amsterdam again. I've never been to the DR. Has anyone been to both places. Airfare is about the same for both destinations. Can I get any weed in the DR? Is there an abundance of girls to chose from in DR? Please help,

Any inforation is greatly appreciated. thank you.[/QUOTE]


The two differences are the weather and drugs. Weather in DR in October 85 degrees F (29 celsius) Amsterdam in October? Its like 40 F (4 celsius) right? :(

Also Amsterdam is a very open free vacation place, the DR is very different!

Possessing a couple of those little "mota" cigarettes on the beach in La Romana could get you a one way ticket to "la bestia" (the beast). La Victoria National Penitentiary in Santo Domingo. If you can't bribe your way out of that prison in the first 30 days - they'll probably recover your body in one of the laundry dumpsters.

The better place to go? All depends on your vices mate.
be safe,
FORD

Hi Johnny euro,

I am dutch...so i think i know something about weed.(LOL) let me tell you there are some (illegal offcourse) weed planters down in DR. HOWever they have to pay off some police officers...if you know what I mean. And in most cases trhey are all dominican persons. IF a gringo would do this....be sure he would NOT planting those wonderfull plants for long.....
I know OUTSIDE SD area and also up north there are some suppliers.....but please DO NOT ask me names or whatever as I don't know them.

In Colombia on several occasions i was offered a very cheap portion of cocaine. However as I am totaly against THIS form of drugs i refused politely and quickly moved to another spot. People many times asked me if i had some weed,because they saw me rolling my own sigarettes with plain (dutch) tobacco.(so apparently they thought it was somekind of marijuana or stuff like that...) However i would NOT be that stupid to import weed into such countries!!!!!!!!!!!!;-) HELL NO!

Setting up a small holiday resort with some weed,some great chicas in an very free manner certainly would be a great thing to do. I am sure it would attract MANY Americans,Europeans and even local gentry to feast.However the legal problems you would encounter would be severe. And I don't want to end up in a DR prison.....

trust me......if weed (ie marijuana) would be legalised (like it should!!) I would be the first person to set something up like i mentioned above!!!!

Untill then.....if you go to countries like the DR,Brasil or wereever please be carefull. Even a simple (nature based!) cigarete with some weed inside can get you in a WORLD OF DEEP SHIT. And i don't mean the shit you can smoke.

So IF you realy can't do without weed......I would suggest go to Amsterdam.
Which IMHO is greatly overrated but that is another story.
OOOO and the wheater CAN be nice in october....i remember last year we had better wheater in october then we did in August....!! But then again it could be raining cats and dogs for WEEKS on October.....LOL.


Regards,

Johan.

Best herb in the world I tell you. A true miracle drug! I always get herb down in BC. 10 dollars worth will last u for a week if you smoke everyday twice a day on vacation.But you must know the right people. Front a tigre u trust(if thats truly possible) a small amount of money(10$s) with the promise that if he returns with an abundant amount of herb that he will be tipped well.How does this tie in to girls? Pleasure centers. All the girls drink and most smoke herb but are afraid to tell you for fear that you will look down upon them as drugees or worse yet, crack*****s! News Flash fellas! I have known some of the most gorgeous girls on the island to smoke herb and mix it with cocaine and some of the prettiest girls from the poorer barrios experiment with crack. Be careful! I DONT DO THAT. But herb creates a tranquility and heightened sensation while in the act.In addition you'll be stiff as a brick! No Pills needed! Guys if this is not something that you do at home, DO NOT TRY IT IN IN THE DR. It has been my experience that if the girl likes to smoke that 300-500 can be deducted of the tab with ease. So long as your alert and she's cheify (term for high) youd be suprised what can happen.

[QUOTE=Johan007]
So IF you realy can't do without weed......I would suggest go to Amsterdam.
[/QUOTE]

Johan, I defer to you. You are obviously the expert on Amsterdam, as I have never been. Someday I would like to go, and when I do I will pm you and ask you to take me on a guided tour.

That is a pretty scary thought though, when you think of it - Johan and Ford together on a tour of Amsterdam! Many women are going to be in trouble!! (lol) :D

Johan is of course correct - weed should be legalized, absoulutely! I don't see this happening anytime soon in the U.S. or in Latin America. Too much money can be made by "shaking down" tourists and looking for bribes and pay offs. If you want to indulge in a few "hits' stick to Europe.

When I was in Honduras I was told that every 2nd taxi driver could get you coke. "If you asked for one kilo, he'd bring you two just in case you or your date ran out thru the night.

I'm afraid Viagara and Cialis are the only drugs I take. I'm not a drug taker - but an ice cold Presidente beer on the beach is a different story!! :)

cheers,
FORD

I have a question for anyone. I live in Costa Rica, so I am familiar with tropical weather. From looking at a map and doing some research I can see that there are highland areas of the DR. Are there any cities that are above 1000 meters? The DR looks nice but I don't like hot humid all the time. Or much of the time, for that matter. Any info would be appreciated.

There are NO major cities in DR that are at a high elevation. My memory is not 100% correct about this but there are two mountain ranges in Hispaniola. Both run through the middle of the island and are higher in Haiti than in DR. DR is more mountainous in the western part near the Haitian border. There are many small towns in that area that I don't think you should visit alone

If you like the cool temps of higher elevations, then I suggets you stay in CR or try Puerto Rico. It also has a mountain range through its middle and I have heard there is spectacular ecotourism in that area.

Thanks for the info and the honestly, George. I probably should stay in CR. It ain't broke so I don't need to fix it.

Not quite true: Constanza DR

Latitude 18.9167
Longitude -70.7500
Altitude (feet) 4015
Lat (DMS) 18° 55' 0N
Long (DMS) 70° 45' 0W
Altitude (meters) 1223

Hi Guys,

about high altitude cities in DR i found this:

[url]http://www.constanza.net/[/url]

comparing it a bit with the town of Boquette (which even is much higer at about 2000meters above sealevel) in panama i can say that it was BORING,EXPENSIVE (many older ex-US militairy staff with higher fixed pensions) and I for myself never ever want to live in such a place.
I wonder if any monger wants to live in such a town because usualy hookers and the likes are hard to find here.
Apart from the fact it probably will be 5-10 centigrades Celsius cooler there are no known advantages;-)
Also there seems to be quite a chemical polution because of the farming.....

[url]http://anthro.binghamton.edu/graduates/cmelendez/migration1.html[/url]

OO also a shortage on women..!! And with 45.000 citizens it will for sure not have an active nightlife;-)

Well....seems not like a place for a monger if you ask me. But if you are keen on farming and a quite surrounding....be my guest:-)

LOL

take care.

Johan


[QUOTE=Grand Pollo]Not quite true: Constanza DR

Latitude 18.9167
Longitude -70.7500
Altitude (feet) 4015
Lat (DMS) 18° 55' 0N
Long (DMS) 70° 45' 0W
Altitude (meters) 1223[/QUOTE]

Hey guys,

I have a very good friend of mine who is a taxi driver in Santo Domingo. His name is Toni and he speaks very little English. It is good enough to communicate.

He will NOT try and rip you off. He is very sincere and honest.

He does not accept a commission if he hooks you up with a girl.

His cell number is 809-772-6551.

He will accept whatever you give him. But that does not mean you should give him 20 pesos for 6 hours of his services. :)

Tell him that "CHEE NO" introduced you to him. I'm Asian. lol

Thanks.

Last april I found a map here or somewhere with the location of all the casas and clubs. Can any one help. I'm arriving to Santo Domingo in 6 days.

Party BMW

[QUOTE=Party BMW]Last april I found a map here or somewhere with the location of all the casas and clubs. Can any one help. I'm arriving to Santo Domingo in 6 days.

Party BMW[/QUOTE]

You can contact me at [email]mrparticular02@yahoo.com[/email] if you like. I live in Santo Domingo.

Guys,

I want to know what cost a normal (no 1001 options cell phone!) plain cell phone with a card in the DR?
What i do know is that they have other system as in Europe,so i better leave my dutch cell at home. (that one wouldn't work anyway) besides that....phoning with my dutch cell would cost me more money:-(

Does anyone know what are the best profitable companies that sell card cell phones??? How is the network coverage???

This will be the first thing I do after awake the next day in DR.....buy a cell phone!!!Well that is......offcourse after i chow down my desayuno....;-)

Well I do have one from Panama left....but that has a simlock and maybe I will use it again if I someday will return to Panama. (still think it is a cool country!!)

cherio guys!

Johan

I'll be arriving in Sousa next week, a buddy and I are staying at Europa and this will be our first time there.

Can any of you guys tell me where I can find a list of spanish phrases that are useful for our purposes? When I was in Brazil last year, I copied the phrases listed in the forum and they were EXTREMELY helpful. The girls got a kick out of me asking for specific "services" in their language.

If you can't direct me to a list, would you mind translating a few phrases for me? Let me know, and I'll send you a PM.

Thanks

[QUOTE=Hondo12]I'll be arriving in Sousa next week, a buddy and I are staying at Europa and this will be our first time there.

Can any of you guys tell me where I can find a list of spanish phrases that are useful for our purposes? When I was in Brazil last year, I copied the phrases listed in the forum and they were EXTREMELY helpful. The girls got a kick out of me asking for specific "services" in their language.

If you can't direct me to a list, would you mind translating a few phrases for me? Let me know, and I'll send you a PM.

Thanks[/QUOTE]


Hi,

I assume you know the basics of spanish...well if not,you must master them pretty soon!

Here we go:

Chupar= to suck/ "queres chupame?"= Do you want to suck me (ie your dick)?
Quanto vale?= How much? (usualy when duscussing money issues) So learn the spanish NUMBERS!!
Todo el noche?= all night??
Quanto horas estas conmigo?= How many hours are you with me??
Que haces en la cama? "what do you do in bed".....ie referring to what she does to YOU sexualy. When she answers "todo" (=all)....you'll probably will have lots of fun:-)
Puedo entrar en su trasero? "Can I penitrate your ass"??
Puedo besar su cuerpo??= Can I kiss your (whole) body??
Con/Sin condom? = With/Without rubber.
Erres muy linda y muy ardiente!= You are very pretty and very horny! (you can easely say this to a girl AFTER you'd make sex with her. She probably will feel very good about those words;-) The word "caliente"also can mean "horny"...or "hot".
No queres tomar una ducha?= Don't you want to take a shower? (Usualy most latina girls are pretty clean on their body.....BUT Just in case;-)
Quero gozar su chucha ahora,soy muy caliente.= I want to f#ck your pussy now...I am very hot.
Yo no pago eso dinero para ti....a veces soy muy tacano sabes!= I don't pay that money for you...at times i am very cheap you know;-)
Eso es muy caro= That is too expensive.
Puedes dame su numero cellular/telefono de la casa??= Could you give me your (private) cell number/home number?
Quando erres libre?= When are you free (off duty)?
Mi gusto sus labios/piernas/trasero/tetas/cara/ojos= I like your lips/legs/ass/tits/face/eyes.
Soy casado/divorciado/soltero= I am married/divorced/single.
No me molestas mas señor!= Don't hassle me sir!(fe if a streetvendor hassles your ass and you want to get rid of him)

The word "pussy"has MANY different words in all latin america. In Colombia you hear often "kuka"....in central america they say "chucha" .....Concha also means pussy. Also the word "coño"means pussy. I am pretty sure you guys will come up with many more diffrent words for pussy....;-)

This is just a small list from myself. If any of you guys have more feel free to add some up.
Hope this helps.


have fun.

Johan.

Johan,

Let me to do somes correction.

[QUOTE=Johan007]Hi,

I assume you know the basics of spanish. Well if not,you must master them pretty soon!

Here we go:

Chupar= to suck/ "quieres chuparme?(polla,pinga,pene)"= Do you want to suck me (ie your dick)?

Cuanto vale?= How much? (usualy when duscussing money issues) So learn the spanish NUMBERS!!

Toda la noche?= all night??

Cuantas horas estas conmigo?= How many hours are you with me??

Que haces en la cama? "what do you do in bed" ie referring to what she does to YOU sexualy. When she answers "todo" (=all). you'll probably will have lots of fun:-)

Puedo entrar en su trasero? "Can I penitrate your ass"??

Puedo besar tu cuerpo??= Can I kiss your (whole) body??

Con/Sin condom? = With/Without rubber.

Eres muy linda y muy ardiente!= You are very pretty and very horny! (you can easely say this to a girl AFTER you'd make sex with her. She probably will feel very good about those words;-) The word "caliente"also can mean "horny", or "hot".
No quieres tomar una ducha?= Don't you want to take a shower? (Usualy most latina girls are pretty clean on their body. But just in case;-)

Quiero gozar tu chucha ahora,estoy muy caliente.= I want to f#ck your pussy now. I am very hot.

Yo no te pago ese dinero. A veces soy muy tacaño sabes!= I don't pay that money for you. At times i am very cheap you know;-)

Eso es muy caro= That is too expensive.

Puedes darme el numero cellular/telefono de tu casa? = Could you give me your (private) cell number/home number?

Cuando estás libre?= When are you free (off duty)?

Me gustan tus labios/piernas/trasero/tetas/cara/ojos = I like your lips/legs/ass/tits/face/eyes.

Estoy casado/divorciado/soltero= I am married/divorced/single.

No me moleste mas señor!= Don't hassle me sir!(fe if a streetvendor hassles your ass and you want to get rid of him)

The word "pussy"has MANY different words in all latin america. In Colombia you hear often "kuka"....in central america they say "chucha" .....Concha also means pussy. Also the word "coño"means pussy. I am pretty sure you guys will come up with many more diffrent words for pussy....;-)

This is just a small list from myself. If any of you guys have more feel free to add some up.

Hope this helps.

have fun.

Johan.[/QUOTE]

yes thanks Mastorr.....my written (and spoken) spanish is FAR from perfect!! But I do my best.
The masculine/feminine words are a problem for me...as this is not at present in the dutch (my native) language.

jajajajaja

If any of you guys have more...bring it on. I too want to learn more dirty words:-)

Johan

A few corrected corrections:

1.Cuantas horas estas conmigo?= How many hours are you with me??

Use tiempo for time in the abstract. Hora pertains to the hour itself. Cuanto tiempo puedes quedarte conmigo? How much time can you stay with me, e.g. for how long?

2. Que haces en la cama? "what do you do in bed"

The risk here is she says that she sleeps. Add gustar - e.g. Que te gusta hacer en la cama (conmigo) - what do you like to do in bed (with me)?

3. Puedo entrar en su trasero? "Can I penitrate your ass"??

Entrar is very literal and trasero is really the behind, like the culo/a vs the asshole. The use of poder (puedo) is really asking if you are capable - express wishes as wishes - Gustaria (or quiero) cogerte (or cingarte in the DR) en tu ano - may as well get it out in the open.

4. Puedo besar tu cuerpo??= Can I kiss your (whole) body??

Cuerpa for women.

5. Con/Sin condom? = With/Without rubber.

You will find the use of condon in some locales and protectivo in the DR is more common.

6. Eres muy linda y muy ardiente!= You are very pretty and very horny!

Use either cachondo/da or arrecho/cha. (You/her)

7. No quieres tomar una ducha?= Don't you want to take a shower? (Usualy most latina girls are pretty clean on their body. But just in case;-)

We take a shower but using tomar is literal and is usually used to take a photo or a drink.

Ask - Quieres ducharte (conmigo) Do you want to shower (with me). If you want her to tell her to take one (good idea)
Quiero que te duches (conmigo) .

8. Quiero gozar tu chucha ahora,estoy muy caliente.= I want to f#ck your pussy now. I am very hot.

Gozar is to enjoy. Chocho is common in the DR for pussy.

Use cingar for gozar. Since she probably knows where you want to 'cingar" adding the chocho part seems pretty silly.

9. Puedes darme el numero cellular/telefono de tu casa? = Could you give me your (private) cell number/home number?

Nothing wrong here - let us now when you find a girl with a phone in the casa other than the community Orange cellular.

10.Cuando estas libre?= When are you free (off duty)?

Use estaras which is the future tense - when will you be free (and DR girls are never free, of course :) )

11. Me gustan tus labios/piernas/trasero/tetas/cara/ojos = I like your lips/legs/ass/tits/face/eyes.

For trasero (use cula) and cara use Me gusta - gustan is for plural nouns (legs, eyes etc.)

12 .No me moleste mas señor!= Don't hassle me sir!

Vayase works well for them and beggar kids (the imperative for leave).

Thanks Guys, I really appreciate it. 5 days till Sousa!

Does anyone one know if there is anything special going on is Sosua or POP between 9/29 - 10/8?

Heading to DR 10/31-11/7 with some buddies for a golf trip and mongering. I will be solo the first two days in Santo Domingo. We are staying in Casa de Campo the balance of the trip. How should we go about importing some chicas back to our villa.

Ay help would be appreciated and will send report of our results.

[QUOTE=Clyle]Heading to DR 10/31-11/7 with some buddies for a golf trip and mongering. I will be solo the first two days in Santo Domingo. We are staying in Casa de Campo the balance of the trip. How should we go about importing some chicas back to our villa.

Ay help would be appreciated and will send report of our results.[/QUOTE]

Casa de Campo is the #1 top shelf place in the whole country - Pres. Clinton, Shakira stay there, private airstrip, villas, etc. I would imagine you will need to reserve a double and show up with girls that look pretty presentable and not street girls. Not many locals in the la Romana area and any that are may be known to management from previous attempts.

If you cannot speak any Spanish, while I am sure the front desk will have the means to speak English they may wonder how you know the girls if you cannot say a word to them.

Other AI's in the south are less upscale and really only care about getting paid for the food and drink part of the room, e.g. a double.

It is very likely they will not admit the girls, and if you came from the capital you might have a big tab getting them back unless they'll take the guaguas.

Thanks. For clarification we are going through a private company for our house and not Casa de Campo. Does that make a difference? Also What about hooking up on Boca Chica and then back to our place.

Another thought we had was to hire a driver to do the transporting for us. Is that an viable option?

I don't speak Spanish. How hopeless would it be for me to come to the DR? What town would you recommend?

Various islands in the Caribean are English speaking. Do any of these have good monger action? What about Central America?

Do any of the hotels in DR have Internet access? Would any of those also be girl friendly, or would they be too upscale to allow girls to accompany me to my room. Alas, I don't speak Spanish either.

I'm looking for a hotel where I could bring my laptop and even make long-distance business calls to the US, for business meetings, for hours at a time, ideally on a speakerphone. Suggestions?

[QUOTE=Boy In Bubble]I don't speak Spanish. How hopeless would it be for me to come to the DR? What town would you recommend?

Various islands in the Caribean are English speaking. Do any of these have good monger action? What about Central America?[/QUOTE]

Other than maybe Panama in parts the need for Spanish in Central America is greater than the DR and you need it plenty in the DR. Why don't you just learn Spanish?

I go to Nicaragua monthly and know/encounter precisely three people with English - a waiter , one taxi guy and the guy at the airline ticket office. Not a ton of English language companionship.

[QUOTE=Clyle]Thanks. For clarification we are going through a private company for our house and not Casa de Campo. Does that make a difference? Also What about hooking up on Boca Chica and then back to our place.

Another thought we had was to hire a driver to do the transporting for us. Is that an viable option?[/QUOTE]

I guess it all depends if there is someone screening who goes in and out of this house. If it is a house in Casa de Campo you are probably just as screwed. It is not a place that looks kindly on hookers. I presume there is a gate guard and some identification of who comes and goes, the two girls in microminis will be a clue I think.

How are you going to find "a driver" and what exactly would he transport where?

If you can't speak Spanish I think you will have a hard time getting the point across to Boca girls that you want to take them 60 miles east to this place and how you would set a price would be difficult as well.

[QUOTE=Boy In Bubble]I don't speak Spanish. How hopeless would it be for me to come to the DR? What town would you recommend?

Various islands in the Caribean are English speaking. Do any of these have good monger action? What about Central America?[/QUOTE]

You can go to the DR. There are many that go there that do not speak or speak very little spanish. Get a book and learn the basics. It is very easy. You do not need to know a lot of spanish to make it in Sosua area (and if you are coming for mongering that is the place to go) but if you intend to really enjoy the country and get out of the overly touristy areas you will need to know some spanish.

If you go the the Palace or to Black Beards you should be fine.

Well I guess hooking up with some chicas in La Romana seems pretty difficult. I do have people who have been to DR several times who can probably help me with a driver. Anyway, what are the prospects for me staying in Santo Domingo at the Renaissance Jaragua ?

[QUOTE=Boy In Bubble]I don't speak Spanish. How hopeless would it be for me to come to the DR? What town would you recommend?

Various islands in the Caribean are English speaking. Do any of these have good monger action? What about Central America?[/QUOTE]

As mentioned Central America and the DR are real challenging for non-Spanish speakers. I've been to just about every country in CA and the only surprise was the number of women at the Del Rey in Costa Rica that spoke passable English. Certainly wouldn't say this is true of all of San Jose however. I agree with Grand Pollo's assessment of Nicaragua. Honduras, Guatemala ditto.

In the caribbean, the Dutch Antilles are party places. Curacao, Aruba and St Maarteen. Hotel staff speak English but of course you're lucky to get any English at all out of providers. Jamaica can be fun, and is (sort of) English speaking.

Jamaica is interesting place however since the local dialect is deeply rooted in Rasta-Patois. I have a Jamaican friend who "skid-talks" Rasta/English so bad that I'm starting to teach him Spanish so I'll be able to understand what he's saying! (lol) :)

Jamaican Patois --- "Bashy" (derived from Bashment) very exciting!
"I when to da party dee other night and it was total bashy mahn!" :D

(traveling) FORD

Ford,

You seem to know well the CA & Caribbean so it'd be interesting to know your opinion on these questions that I'm curious about:

- What's the best country for mongering in CA? Considering all the key aspects (girls quantity, quality & attitude, prices, safety, etc). From what I've read Honduras sounds quite good (maybe not the safest, though). Language isn't a problem as I speak Spanish.

- Is Jamaica better or worse than the DR/Cuba mongering-wise? Is it still worth a visit? I'm considering Jamaica for next year.

I found a local site:

[url]http://www.latinaffairs.com/[/url]

Not sure if the girls are any good. They wanted $700 for only 5 days and the girls on the site all looked very very poor. Not one hot looking girl in the bunch. Is it difficult to find pretty non pros of you are a gringo? Are they all P4P when it comes to USA men. What is the real DR story? Any DR regulars?

[QUOTE=Gladiator]Ford,

Language isn't a problem as I speak Spanish.

- Is Jamaica better or worse than the DR/Cuba mongering-wise? Is it still worth a visit? I'm considering Jamaica for next year.[/QUOTE]

No it is not. Im from Jamaica and can tell you. The quality is less consistent and the cost higher. If you speak Spanish, stick to the DR or Colombia. Jamaica's culture is not the best for our hobby.

Naughty just got two weeks to play unexpectedly.

Looking at making my first visit to DR, but I need to do things quick. I've been doing some searches, but without very satisfactory results. Sooo...

I want to visit the PP/Sosua/Cabarete area for a week or two like--right now!!!

Any tips on getting an inexpensive flight to DR from the midwest (I don't mind busses, so anywhere not too far away is OK) would be greatly appreciated. Seems most flights into Puerto Plata are both costly and 18 to 20 hour nightmares.

Also, is there anyplace to obtain adult toys and vids in the Gold Coast area or will I need to bring my own? How about vitamin V?

Thanks to any who can help!
Naughty

I just got back from a 5 month extended trip in DR and have been going for a couple of years now quite regularly...usually for a month or two at at time.

I think the price one pays depends on where you get them and the quality of the chic. One can easily pay 1,000 pesos or less for a quickie or a couple hundred pesos for a decent BBBJ, but what the hell will she look like? Will she be fat and ugly? An undesirable? Most likely, but then again, different strokes for different folks.

On the other hand, I aim for quality. Sometimes you find quality just by walking around in the shopping centers in Santiago or hanging around the Universities in POP/STI/SDQ. Sometimes all it takes is an invite for dinner and drinks. But when you have to pay, something in the neighborhood of 2,000 pesos ON AVERAGE should be a good gesture. Sometimes it will take 1,500, but sometimes it will take 2,500...but again, these higher prices have to do with the higher quality.

I posted some pics of chicas that I think are of good quality in the photos section here. Take a look.

MISTER NYC :D

I would search for flights coming into Santiago and the capital. You can easily take Caribe Tours bus line from the capital, about 5 hours, or from Santiago about 1.5 hours for cheap. The fare from the capital is about $9 and from Santiago it's somewhat less if I remember correctly.

Do a search. See for yourself.

You may also want to try flying directly to NYC/JFK on one airline and then hopping on Delta or Jetblue for a non stop flight to Santiago.

MISTER NYC :D

[QUOTE=Naughty]Naughty just got two weeks to play unexpectedly.

Looking at making my first visit to DR, but I need to do things quick. I've been doing some searches, but without very satisfactory results. Sooo...

I want to visit the PP/Sosua/Cabarete area for a week or two like--right now!!!

Any tips on getting an inexpensive flight to DR from the midwest (I don't mind busses, so anywhere not too far away is OK) would be greatly appreciated. Seems most flights into Puerto Plata are both costly and 18 to 20 hour nightmares.

Also, is there anyplace to obtain adult toys and vids in the Gold Coast area or will I need to bring my own? How about vitamin V?

Thanks to any who can help!
Naughty[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Mister]I just got back from a 5 month extended trip in DR and have been going for a couple of years now quite regularly...usually for a month or two at a time. [/QUOTE]

.......Mister, if you listen real carefully, the sound you'll here is me steaming because you get to spend 5 months at a time in paradise! Good for you!

I am very jealous, but I'm happy for you and thank you for your solid, honest contributions to this board. :)

FORD

[quote=boy in bubble]do any of the hotels in dr have internet access? would any of those also be girl friendly, or would they be too upscale to allow girls to accompany me to my room. alas, i don't speak spanish either.

i'm looking for a hotel where i could bring my laptop and even make long-distance business calls to the us, for business meetings, for hours at a time, ideally on a speakerphone. suggestions?[/quote]

in santo domingo, the courtyard has high speed internet in the rooms i believe. the jaragua has wifi access in the lobby. look into getting vonage softphone so you can make calls from your laptop via a headset.

I'm new member on this site and let me tell you guys it's fantastic, there are lot of a good information that everyone needs. Thank all of you that making this forum alive. On the internet, where I can find a detail map of Sosua, Puerto Plata and Cabaret. The two last week of December I'll be in Sosua for vacation, I'll rent a car. I think a map will be helpfull. By the way. Someone can tell me which hotel that I should go at no extra cost for the "chica".

Anyway, all the good informations will be apreciate.

Thank all of you.

Di perdo tu

Do US cell phones work in the DR?

[QUOTE=John Huk]Do US cell phones work in the DR?[/QUOTE]

I believe the answer to your question is a qualified yes. Qualification involves whether your US carrier has international roaming agreements with DR carriers and possibly whether your cell phone is GSM compatible. I've brought an AT&T cell phone to Sosua and on startup it would hook up with the local Orange network. The caveat here is that you'll be paying exorbitant rates to make calls and locals will not want to call you back since you won't have a local number.

If you have a GSM phone and it is unlocked, the less expensive way to go would be replace the local SIM chip in your phone with one from the local carrier. In Sosua it wasn't hard to find the Orange stores on the Main street, and with their chip install you can buy minutes as you need them and you will have a local number. If you do a google search for prepaid SIM cards you may find that you can order a SIM in advance with some minutes. This can be good if you wish to use your phone right after you step off the plane, but it'll probably cost twice as much as buying your SIM as you arrive.

[QUOTE=Cyberspace]I believe the answer to your question is a qualified yes. Qualification involves whether your US carrier has international roaming agreements with DR carriers and possibly whether your cell phone is GSM compatible. I've brought an AT&T cell phone to Sosua and on startup it would hook up with the local Orange network. The caveat here is that you'll be paying exorbitant rates to make calls and locals will not want to call you back since you won't have a local number.

If you have a GSM phone and it is unlocked, the less expensive way to go would be replace the local SIM chip in your phone with one from the local carrier. In Sosua it wasn't hard to find the Orange stores on the Main street, and with their chip install you can buy minutes as you need them and you will have a local number. If you do a google search for prepaid SIM cards you may find that you can order a SIM in advance with some minutes. This can be good if you wish to use your phone right after you step off the plane, but it'll probably cost twice as much as buying your SIM as you arrive.[/QUOTE]


I don't know...but why take the risk? I bought an old secondhand (500 peso!) motorola STARTAC with UMTC system(dual band) and it worked GREAT for me....the card was from TRICOM.(prepaid) Sure you can't call abroad...but you could do that in the many phone shops for about 7 peso a minute..!!!(to the US or Canada)
If you ask arround at any taxista or streetvendors they know plenty adresses were to find second hand (simlockfree) cell phones. UMTC or GSM...
My amiga arranged mine;-)

I had a good coverage...even in barahona! The LG GSM cell with camera from my amiga often didn't worked...so we had to use the good old Motorola thingie....

just a thought....

Johan.

[QUOTE=Cyberspace]I believe the answer to your question is a qualified yes. Qualification involves whether your US carrier has international roaming agreements with DR carriers and possibly whether your cell phone is GSM compatible. I've brought an AT&T cell phone to Sosua and on startup it would hook up with the local Orange network. The caveat here is that you'll be paying exorbitant rates to make calls and locals will not want to call you back since you won't have a local number.

If you have a GSM phone and it is unlocked, the less expensive way to go would be replace the local SIM chip in your phone with one from the local carrier. In Sosua it wasn't hard to find the Orange stores on the Main street, and with their chip install you can buy minutes as you need them and you will have a local number. If you do a google search for prepaid SIM cards you may find that you can order a SIM in advance with some minutes. This can be good if you wish to use your phone right after you step off the plane, but it'll probably cost twice as much as buying your SIM as you arrive.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the useful tips.

JetBlue now goes to Santiago, DR from Boston, MA beginning in mid to late Novermber 2005 with a stop over in NYC/JFK. I priced a ticket for about $360 round trip.

Hope this helps someone.

MISTER NYC :D

Hello all thanks for the great info. Im planning my first trip to DR & me and a friend decided to stay in SD at hotel meutur. Is this a good GF place to stay? Me and my friend dont speak any spanish. Is it possible to meet chicas with no spanish or do we both need to take some intro courses? Is SD a good place to find good pros or non pros are the going rates cheap or should i also plan a visit to BC? Ive heard that DR is kind of dry since the crackdown on working girls is this true? Can anyone with a little experience pm me with the basics?

Thanks

Hi Jackson,

Could you please make such a toppic here just like they have that in the Brasil section??
I know many guys are intrested in Living in the DR permanently (including myself).
What better way to swap info on this subject then to make a seperate topic??

Thanks IA.

Johan

Three of us are making our first trip to DR the weekend of Nov 3rd. I have gone through this site and compiled a bunch of information together, but still need some additional information in order to make the most of the trip, especially since we only have three days there, we want to make sure to make the most of the trip.

1) We have selected Santiago as the destination since the airfare to Santo Domingo is coming up much more. Puerto Plata and Santiago fares are about the same. Anyone have any opinion on which of these two places would be best for first timers, who don't speak any Spanish?

2) Any Hotel recommendations in Santiago and Puerto Plata? We would like a place that is reasonably clean, conveniently located, visitor friendly, offers convenient food/drinks options and where we can get by on English only. Based on my investigation, so far I have come up with Hotel Platino. Wondering what other options there might be.

3) I read several posts about people getting unpredictable exchange rates over there. Is there any reason to not bring local currency with us, converetd here in the US?

4) Nothing can beat the thrill of scoring non-pros or semi-pros. Any tips on where/how to find such chicas in these two locations?

5) I don't have a good sense of distances over there. If we are in Santiago for three days, is it worth making a trip to Boca Chica or Santo Domingo?

Of course, the primary purpose of our trip is mongering so all questions are from that perspective.

I would appreciate any feedback and I will write up a detailed report upon my return.

Thanks.

[QUOTE=Uvu Atl]Hello all thanks for the great info. Im planning my first trip to DR & me and a friend decided to stay in SD at hotel meutur. Is this a good GF place to stay? Me and my friend dont speak any spanish. Is it possible to meet chicas with no spanish or do we both need to take some intro courses? Is SD a good place to find good pros or non pros are the going rates cheap or should i also plan a visit to BC? Ive heard that DR is kind of dry since the crackdown on working girls is this true? Can anyone with a little experience pm me with the basics?

Thanks[/QUOTE]

It is very possible to meet chicas. They LOVE guys with no experience, and no ability to say one word. When the argument about what you agreed to for how much comes, you are going to be at a loss. You won't pick up non pros without being able to sweet talk (or any talk, really). I think Metetuer is an upscale hotel , a company that has AI resort types. Good luck getting past security in a hotel like that.

Search the posts, read the Santo Domingo ones, vs. General Info , e.g. here, and then ask once you have some specific needs. There are proper hotel recommendations. How did you find this place?

[QUOTE=Johan007]Hi Jackson,

Could you please make such a toppic here just like they have that in the Brasil section??
I know many guys are intrested in Living in the DR permanently (including myself).
What better way to swap info on this subject then to make a seperate topic??

Thanks IA.

Johan[/QUOTE]

Great idea Johan and I am sure it will go over very well!!!!!

[QUOTE=Jb Cool]Three of us are making our first trip to DR the weekend of Nov 3rd. I have gone through this site and compiled a bunch of information together, but still need some additional information in order to make the most of the trip, especially since we only have three days there, we want to make sure to make the most of the trip.

1) We have selected Santiago as the destination since the airfare to Santo Domingo is coming up much more. Puerto Plata and Santiago fares are about the same. Anyone have any opinion on which of these two places would be best for first timers, who don't speak any Spanish?

2) Any Hotel recommendations in Santiago and Puerto Plata? We would like a place that is reasonably clean, conveniently located, visitor friendly, offers convenient food/drinks options and where we can get by on English only. Based on my investigation, so far I have come up with Hotel Platino. Wondering what other options there might be.

3) I read several posts about people getting unpredictable exchange rates over there. Is there any reason to not bring local currency with us, converetd here in the US?

4) Nothing can beat the thrill of scoring non-pros or semi-pros. Any tips on where/how to find such chicas in these two locations?

5) I don't have a good sense of distances over there. If we are in Santiago for three days, is it worth making a trip to Boca Chica or Santo Domingo?

Of course, the primary purpose of our trip is mongering so all questions are from that perspective.

I would appreciate any feedback and I will write up a detailed report upon my return.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]
1) You' re 4 hours from Santo Domingo / Boca Chica.

2) You're an hour's drive from the nearest beach. There is no beach in Santiago!!!

3) Do what most non-Spanish speaking tourists do, when they arrive in the DR and they want to save some cash.... They fly to STI, they take a 60min. cab ride to Sosua for US$50 or so, they find a hotel or apt. near "the strip" (Europa, the Palace...), and they pick up the *****s on "the strip" and in the clubs at night.

4) If you don't know anybody in Santiago, and you don't speak Spanish, you have no business being there.


-Helpmann :)

I don't know DR ( sounds expensive?) but have travelled in other parts of Latin America and other 3rd world countries and have found budget accomodation always more interesting and much better for finding girl friends or "girl friends" (chicas) - or even group/threesome guys etc,etc.

I am surprised at the wealth of reporters here. For decent budget accomodation and brief reports "Lonely Planet" is the best source - and for real costs versus expensive tourist prices.

Also if you want t get to know the people and culture it is best to avoid high end hotels - which effectively isolate you from the populace - AND make taxis and services more expensive AND make you a target for ne'er-do-wells hanging around suhch places.

Mixing with locals in cheaper hotels also gives the opportunity o meeting more chicas - at least more fun girls than "high class hookers". Just a bit of gentlemanly behaviour and generosity to a group is more fun and practically guarantees company - even for days - IF you are decent and speak some Spanish.

The "secret" is to enjoy a laugh! -.. .usually at one's own expense.

Helpmann, thanks for the pointers.

Any opinion on Puerto Plata vs. Santiago? Airfares are about same for both places, and I understand that there are nice beaches in Puerto Plata. Just wondering about ease, convenience and plentitude of chicas at PP.

If we end up in Sosua, is Santiago the best airport to fly into?

Thanks again for responses!

And just so you folks don't think that I'm a leach, I've submitted several useful local reports on UG. I just hadn't discovered this new place for WSG until recently.

[QUOTE=Helpmann]1) You' re 4 hours from Santo Domingo / Boca Chica.

2) You're an hour's drive from the nearest beach. There is no beach in Santiago!!!

3) Do what most non-Spanish speaking tourists do, when they arrive in the DR and they want to save some cash.... They fly to STI, they take a 60min. cab ride to Sosua for US$50 or so, they find a hotel or apt. near "the strip" (Europa, the Palace...), and they pick up the *****s on "the strip" and in the clubs at night.

4) If you don't know anybody in Santiago, and you don't speak Spanish, you have no business being there.

Helpmann :)[/QUOTE]

[quote=jb cool]helpmann, thanks for the pointers.

any opinion on puerto plata vs. santiago? airfares are about same for both places, and i understand that there are nice beaches in puerto plata. just wondering about ease, convenience and plentitude of chicas at pp.

if we end up in sosua, is santiago the best airport to fly into?[/quote]as helpmann said, if you are newbies to dr and have only 3 nights and speak no spanish, head for sosua.

if prices are comparable, fly in to puerto plata (pop). the airport is only a few miles ($20 taxi) from sosua.

note that puerto plata is a city of 150k with no beaches. sosua is a town of about 25k with plenty of chica bars, discos and a nice beach within easy walking distance if you stay at the europa
[url]http://www.hotelplazaeuropa.com/plaza-seiten/plazaeuropa-titel-engl.html[/url]

if you were going to be there longer i might have other suggestions, but for 3 nights sosua is your best bet for a compact playground. you'll probably get taken somewhat, but you'll probably enjoy it too, so what the hell.

in regard to your question about changing us dollars to dominican pesos before you go, don't do it! you will be raped unmercifully on the exchange rate. you can change dollars for pesos at the airport for not too bad a rate if you want, though the taxi driver will gladly accept your $us20 bill. the europa will change your money at a very good rate.

helpmann's last point: "if you don't know anybody in santiago, and you don't speak spanish, you have no business being there.", is also pertinent. i would listen.

all in all, for 3 nights and minimum hastle, head for sosua.

[QUOTE=Jb Cool]Helpmann, thanks for the pointers.

Any opinion on Puerto Plata vs. Santiago? Airfares are about same for both places, and I understand that there are nice beaches in Puerto Plata. Just wondering about ease, convenience and plentitude of chicas at PP.

If we end up in Sosua, is Santiago the best airport to fly into?[/QUOTE]
[b]*[/b] Santo Domingo [b]BY FAR[/b] has the greatest number of women/hookers.
(the beach is a 35min. drive away)

[b]*[/b] Santiago has the 2nd greatest number of women/hookers.
(the beach is a 70min. drive away)

[b]*[/b] Sosua has the highest concentration of hookers.
(Beach - the water is wavy and is good for wind surfing; located in the city)

[b]*[/b] Boca Chica has second highest concentration of hookers .
(Beach - the water is calm and is good for paddleboats and jet skis; located in the city)

If "you're city" didn't make the list, then it's not in the "top 4" places to monger in the Dominican Republic.

[b]BTW: POP, STI, SDQ... all things being equal, fly to the airport nearest to your hotel/apt.[/b]


-Helpmann :)

[QUOTE=Helpmann][b]*[/b] Santo Domingo [b]BY FAR[/b] has the greatest number of women/hookers.
(the beach is a 35min. drive away)

[b]*[/b] Santiago has the 2nd greatest number of women/hookers.
(the beach is a 70min. drive away)

[b]*[/b] Sosua has the highest concentration of hookers.
(Beach - the water is wavy and is good for wind surfing; located in the city)

[b]*[/b] Boca Chica has second highest concentration of hookers .
(Beach - the water is calm and is good for paddleboats and jet skis; located in the city)

If "you're city" didn't make the list, then it's not in the "top 4" places to monger in the Dominican Republic.

[b]BTW: POP, STI, SDQ... all things being equal, fly to the airport nearest to your hotel/apt.[/b]


-Helpmann :)[/QUOTE]


If I may add some additional things to the posting from Helpmann??

If you want to go to Sosua POP airport is better...it's only 20 min drive away.
Besides that I know of flights from the US/Canada/Europe always go to Puerto Plata(POP) OR to Punta Cana OR to Santo Domingo(SDQ). I never heard of any DIRECT flights to Santiago. But maybe I am mistaken??

For God's sake...STAY AWAY from Punta Cana....as it is a HUGE all-inn turist area with huge hotel accomodations. needles to say this is NO place for the average monger!!!:-( IF there might be hookers availeble I recon they should cost a few bucks more....;-) So in any case Go to POP or to Santo Domingo. From there the country can be discovered EASELY by bus for very cheap prices!! (caribe tours or Metro bus)

About Santiago: the city is DR second largest city and has about 650.000 people. Also there is a large free tarde zone here with many many shops and malls. Even people from the capital go here to shop for electrical equipment,clothes,parfumes and/or shoes because they are soo much cheaper as in the capital.
Needles to say in Santiago are countless shopgirls;-) which is good IF you speak spanish and like the NON-PRO scene:-)
The city ITSELF is rather dull and has very little to offer for the average turists. BUT we are NOT average...are we?? hahahahahahah

BTW the surfers paradise is called CABERETE (to the east from Sosua).....and it is also very close to Sosua...i guess about 20-25 min with a taxi. If you like you could also take a gua-gua to there;cheaper and more fun;-) but less comfortable.

If you are more the cultural type you also can visit La ISABELLA (to the west from Sosua)..,.which are the ruins of the FIRST City founded by the spanish in 1493..by Christopher Columbus. (Colon in spanish)
However i did get into an historian dispute with a tourguide in the capital as I told him that REALY the vikings discovered America 500 years earlier then Colon;sailing from Norway to Iceland and so to Greenland and the North east coast of New foundland......But that's another story;-) The guy even seemed offended by my statement...! Here everybody knows that. But in the DR it's something else.

Johan.

Guys,

I really need your opinion. Does it make sense to go to Sosua if you don't speak Spanish? I speak very little and wonder does it even make sense to plan this trip. Any of you go there that don't speak Spanish? How did it go? Would maybe Santo Domingo be better option?

Your response is appreciated.

[QUOTE=Alexander Great]Guys,

I really need your opinion. Does it make sense to go to Sosua if you don't speak Spanish? I speak very little and wonder does it even make sense to plan this trip. Any of you go there that don't speak Spanish? How did it go? Would maybe Santo Domingo be better option?

Your response is appreciated.[/QUOTE]
It makes perfect sense TO GO to Sosua if you don't speak Spanish. Sosua is tourist beach town loaded w/ *****s. If you don't speak Spanish and you're in Sosua, you're among many.

Santo Domingo, the capital and most populated city in the DR, is the opposite. Fewer tourists (by percentage) and fewer English (by percentage) speakers.


-Helpmann :)

[QUOTE=Alexander Great]Guys,

I really need your opinion. Does it make sense to go to Sosua if you don't speak Spanish? I speak very little and wonder does it even make sense to plan this trip. Any of you go there that don't speak Spanish? How did it go? Would maybe Santo Domingo be better option?

Your response is appreciated.[/QUOTE]

For non spanish speakers Blackbeards offers much convenince at a fair price.
[url]http://www.blackbeardsadultresort.com/index.html[/url]

Well it is clean and very convenient, a fair price, not really , for a newbie maybe the only manageable option though costly.

Hello all members,

I'm french man so excuse me for my english.

So firstly a dicover your grp since few days looking for information about rd nightlife, yes I'm curious, there is a lot off good advices and informations very efficient a think félicitation

I ll go to juan dolio in a classic resort Barcelo Talanquera I am alone, it s my fisrt trip in rd! , but reading all your adventure, I think that obviously I will not have a lot off pleasure whit chicas in my resort area. So can I have some advice where to go not too far. Boca chica not dangerous the night? price for a night if the chica come in my resort chamber. Gracias

I speak spanish a little more than english but I enable too manage in spanish aslo

[QUOTE=Grand Pollo]Well it is clean and very convenient, a fair price, not really , for a newbie maybe the only manageable option though costly.[/QUOTE]

You can get a deluxe single room at Blackbeards for $45.00 US. Meals range from $4.00 to $6.00US Breakfast, $6.00 –$8.00US Lunch and Dinner $8.00 - $14.00US. I can not remember the exact beer prices. I think that they were 45 pesos for a Small and 65 pesos for a Large beer. The exchange rate today is 33 pesos equals 1 US dollar that would make a Large beer under $2.00.

The prices for the girls are 1200 to 1500 pesos ($36.00 to $45.00US) for a short time. The Price for all night is between 2500 to 3000 pesos ($75.00 - $90.00US). If you take a girl for all night you will most likely buy them dinner and breakfast as well.

I have visited Blackbeards twice and am going back for my third visit in December. I averaged $200.00 US a day. For a 47 year old Ohio boy to be in a Tropical climate in the winter with pretty girls in their 20’s that is a fair price.

I agree that there are less expensive ways to do a trip to the DR. If you are young(25 – 40) with energy and Spanish speaking ability you may want to go to Sousa and do things on your own. If you are an upper middle class American in his 40’s and 50’s without Spanish speaking ability Blackbeards is the way to go in my opinion.

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1.) Beautiful young girls available 24/7 at very reasonable prices. [url]http://www.blackbeardsadultresort.com/beauties/[/url]
2.) A measure of safety, Blackbeard girls are checked for STD’s and are much less likely to steal from you than some girl you met at a bar somewhere.
3.) Rooms are clean with working hot water, air conditioning, electricity, lock boxes, and satellite television with porno station, and are reasonably priced.
4.) Restaurant and Bar right on premises. Good but not great food at reasonable prices. Beer is cold and again reasonably priced.
5.) Easy to meet other American, Canadian, and European, middle class guys in there 40’s and 50’s also interested in drinking some adult beverages and meeting young girls. When traveling alone it is much more fun to hook-up with other guys.
6.) Nice Pool is clean and available to use 24/7
7.) Management is available and responsive to help you if needed.
8.) Blackbeards driver will meet you at the Puerto Plata airport and take you to Blackbeards about a 30 minute drive.

Hey all!

I just joined and am considering going to DR. Although I sometimes indulge in the pro scene, a lot of the time I just try my hand with the non-pro locals and if it doesn't work out, oh well. I've been looking at the photo gallery for DR and have a couple of questions.

1.Are all the girls kind of the heavy-set type with large, pendulous breasts? That's not really my type and I wonder if most all girls in DR have that look?

2.Are non-pro's receptive to white guys at all? I speak limited spanish and know that's a problem but would you say in general if you head to a club in DR, that you might get to flirt with some of the locals? For what it's worth, I'm 31,extremely fit, and don't really have problems meeting women here in San Francisco

I realize these are both very subjective questions so just giving me your opinion is quite helpful. I appreciate the help and your time. Take care!!

S-

The hotel and all its features quoted below (e.g. 1, and 2-8) are fine and fairly priced. It is really quite a nice place.

However, the short term and all night prices are for gringos particularly gringos who can't bargain one iota outside the hotel (and it is permitted to bring your own legal girls back there if you wish - a good idea).

Don't hang your hat on the STD checks and DR girls will always steal.

And feed them the next day, sure, good money after too much bad. They are not dates. They are employees.

Come on: US$90 TLN for a DR girl? Please. US$200 a day of which maybe $75 is the room , meals and beer? Please.

For someone incapable of even trying it is like an all-inclusive and fills a small niche. Learn Spanish if you travel to a Spanish speaking country.

The DR has been problematic with the sudden rise of the peso and no appreciable change in the prices ( i.e. the didn't go down as you'd expect) but it is possible on both shores to negotiate and represent a collective front of reasonable prices. If i were in the shoes of having to pay $90 I think I would work very hard at learning to act independently.

It is however far less than those "packages" where the resort charges $1000 a day and you wind up with east European girls.

[QUOTE=Julio 230]Hello johann, thanks four your report. You are right, the men working in the sugar fiels really are poor bastards. Saw this, while riding with a rented moto thru the fields. had really problems, not to cry immediately! They have to work while the sun is burning down maybe with 40 oder even 45 degree. Can understand now, why they are thirsdy in the evening for much rum. But I was looking that time for my GF living in a batey near La Romana. As unfortunately, she had great luck and is married in germany, so I need to look for an new one. Have found some pics no-digital of diffrent GF, try to subit them here soon.[/QUOTE]

Why do you care about men working in the sugar fields? Maybe it would be more interesting to hear how you picked up your GF in La Romana.

[QUOTE=Cyberspace]Why do you care about men working in the sugar fields? Maybe it would be more interesting to hear how you picked up your GF in La Romana.[/QUOTE]Why care?

Hmmm, possibly because they're human beings. Just as human as we are.

(Hopefully even the guys on this site aren't totally lacking in humanity).

Cyberspace,

As Yanqui69 has already answerd you, I must also tell you too, that you really are lacking humanity. It seems, that for you, men there are bullshit and the girls nothing more then fucking machines. Sorry but I think, you are the most poor bastard, therefore I dont give informations here how I met my haitian girl. Sorry again, but this was too much!!! RTFF and you will know at least a litte bit how they try to survive! I said: they TRY TO SURVIVE! Remember, mongering in these contries is cheap, because they have problems. And Haitians especially have big, big, problems.

[QUOTE=Julio 230]Cyberspace,

As Yanqui69 has already answerd you, I must also tell you too, that you really are lacking humanity. It seems, that for you, men there are bullshit and the girls nothing more then fucking machines. Sorry but I think, you are the most poor bastard, therefore I dont give informations here how I met my haitian girl. Sorry again, but this was too much!!! RTFF and you will know at least a litte bit how they try to survive! I said: they TRY TO SURVIVE! Remember, mongering in these contries is cheap, because they have problems. And Haitians especially have big, big, problems.[/QUOTE]

Public forums on the internet are nothing unusual, but the vast majority will quickly censor banish and/or delete any serious discussion of prostitution (or mongering if that's the prefered term). This is one of the few places that is dedicated to mongering and it would be a shame to see it devolve into random off topic BS, even if such BS has a social conscience. But ... I'll grant you that with a stretch of imagination the plight of DRs poorest dudes has some connection with mongering, but it is a stretch. At least it is somewhat more appropriate that this discussion is now taking place in a "General Info" forum rather than a "Photo" forum where it began.

There are many billions of people in the world and I'd venture that at least a few of those billions are worse off than you and I. So what are you going to do about it? The only tangible offerings you can make are love and money. Let's face it sympathy and understanding are nice, but they don't materially help. On occasion I have been known to offer love and money to a select few women who are worse off than I. That much humanity I have. Of course there's been much discussion in the forums indicating that women tend to prefer the money over love. If, with your "greater humanity", it's your bent to go further and offer your love and money to the poorer dudes of the world, then enjoy yourself.

[QUOTE=Johan007]MrP is right....in SD I saw many many stunners; from white...till pitch black and all colours in between.....try to find that in Sosua or Punta cana and you will have a very hard time. (and I do NOT refer to the fact of share numbers but also the percentage of woman!)
Almost made me feel bad that I had my GF with me all the time. Even in a mall some girls looked at me with more then normal intrest allthough they noticed i wasn't alone....and had my GF with me.
Well same here...if you are alone nobody looksat you and if you ahve a GF next to you all the girls are checking you out...LOL

Johan[/QUOTE]

Do you have a picture of your GF? Would you care to post that in the Photo thread? How did you meet her?

[QUOTE=Cyberspace]Do you have a picture of your GF? Would you care to post that in the Photo thread? How did you meet her?[/QUOTE]

Hi Cyberspace,

yes I have LOTS of pics from her.....and NO i am NOT posting her here!!!!!!
If she ever find out i am dead meat. Decent latina grils do NOT like to have serious relationships with mongers...!!! Can you dig that? Besides that....only God might know what some guys on this site might do with that pic after I put it down here...!!
She is 165cm and has a great body with large tits and a good ass (trust me on this one) and as white as I am with dark brown hair.

I am talking about a SERIOUS girl here...steady job, middle class family,speaks/understand english...so she is NOT a SW or a "mujer de la calle"...if you know what I mean. you CAN actualy find SERIOUS women in the DR....just learn spanish and keep your eyes open and dress sharp and don't act like a complete moron and you be fine. It helps to avoid large turistic areas.....;-)

I meet her on amigos.com and we chatted for several months before i went to visit her in the DR. On amigos.com you can find ALSO lots of *****s,adventure girls and your average golddigger. BUT you have to understanbd the "signs".....that is IF you think a girl is serios she might be a golddigger or a *****. And if you think she is a ho...she MIGHT turn out a serious girl!! You have to understand spanish and know something about their culture....I never said it would be easy to find one....but they are out there!

The great part is that she told me IF she had her period I could go out and f*ck another girl...as long as she didn't find out or hear about it from smd she'd know!!!!! Having a fling with another (normal) woman once every now and then is totaly accepted (as long as you do NOT overdo it)......BUT that is something else then go MONGERING!!!! She knows that many DR girls like forreign man. (and not only for the $$$) She has to live with that. If I would bring her HERE I'd know every guy on the fucking street was checking her out too...!!!

Wow....I realy love her man.....:-)


I hope you understand my point of view.

Johan

Dear Dominican Replublic resident,

I am leaving the U.S. for a year or so to live in the Dominican Republic or other such exotic place (I'm taking a year off to think, meditate, reflect, relax, complete my thesis, maybe play a little guitar, tell and listen to some funny stories, drink some margaritas's, etc.). Is there anyone living in an upscale place who will let me rent a room there? I prefer a residence with a live in maid and cook on the premise. Please reply in confidence. Thank you.

C

In my planning of my next DR trip, I thought about what would happen if my Visa check card (I have no real credit cards anymore) got lost or stolen and I had no money while down there. Could I Western Union myself a some emergency cash prior to going, and withdraw it in case I needed it? Would I need ID, or could I use the transfer number alone to get it?

You need the transfer number for sure, but definitely need ID and they are quite firm about a passport ... original, not photocopy.

[QUOTE=Baltimonger]In my planning of my next DR trip, I thought about what would happen if my Visa check card (I have no real credit cards anymore) got lost or stolen and I had no money while down there. Could I Western Union myself a some emergency cash prior to going, and withdraw it in case I needed it? Would I need ID, or could I use the transfer number alone to get it?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Baltimonger]In my planning of my next DR trip, I thought about what would happen if my Visa check card (I have no real credit cards anymore) got lost or stolen and I had no money while down there. Could I Western Union myself a some emergency cash prior to going, and withdraw it in case I needed it? Would I need ID, or could I use the transfer number alone to get it?[/QUOTE]

You can send WU transfers with a secret question in lieu of an ID if you want to. Remember your own answer of course.

I had requested and received a bunch of very useful information re mongering in DR on this site. Armed with the knowledge gained here, I made my first trip recently. I'll provide a detailed report of my mongering activities at a later time, but in the interim I wanted to warn everyone on this site of a widespread scam running at a number of casinos across DR. There is a game called "Super Keno", which at times is also referred to as "Caribbean Keno", offered at a number of casinos across DR. This game is a complete scam. The entire game is rigged and is mostly likely controlled by mafia. There is no way to win at this game, and the "dealers" running this game are expert con artists. I got scammed big time at the "Tropical Casino" in Playa Dorada. Upon my return to the US, I investigated on the web and learned that this an old, well know scam that continues to work on tourists. Additional information about this scam can be found at superkenoscam dot com.

I realize that this is off topic for this site, but figured it could save some poor sucker like myself a bundle of money. Given the nature and purpose of my trip, all of my research was done on this site only, and I did not run into any information on this scam here, though it seems to be a common knowledge to a lot of people around the web. It will be good if the moderator can find a way to prominently display a scam alert against this game within the DR forum of this board.

Hello to all:
I would like to know the best way to get from STI to Sosua during the early morning hours.

The flight that I may take arrives in the middle of the night, and I'm wondering if a bus is available at that time.

I would also like to know the e-mail address for the hotel Europa. Their website doesn't list the address, only a direct link. I want to use a secondary e mail provider.

Thanks, Sailor02

Caribe tours and Metro only work up until a certain time. Best bet would be to find a hotel in STI for the night (maybe find a pro for the night). First thing in the morning catch the 7am bus to Sosua. Bring a sweater or jcaket, the bus is freezing cold. Ride is smooth, on exiting walk away from the station and then pick up a cab a block away. (lower rates).

[QUOTE=Sailor02]Hello to all:
I would like to know the best way to get from STI to Sosua during the early morning hours.

The flight that I may take arrives in the middle of the night, and I'm wondering if a bus is available at that time.

I would also like to know the e-mail address for the hotel Europa. Their website doesn't list the address, only a direct link. I want to use a secondary e mail provider.

Thanks, Sailor02[/QUOTE]Here is the Europa's email address [url]http://www.hotelplazaeuropa.com/english/start.html[/url]

[QUOTE=Sailor02]Hello to all:
I would also like to know the e-mail address for the hotel Europa. Their website doesn't list the address, only a direct link. I want to use a secondary e mail provider.

Thanks, Sailor02[/QUOTE][email]real.state@verizon.net.do[/email]

[QUOTE=Mister]This is what forms are all about. No bashing, just the exchanging of experiences and sharing. Thanks for making it happen everyone.

Now to pricing...

Girls will love to get 1500 pesos short in the day and 2,000 pesos for the night. They can be brought down to 1000 and 1500 respectively if you are fair but firm. Being nice and sociable helps too.

Experiences will always be subject to time, need, etc. They may not budge in price at times and sometimes, you get what you pay for.

MISTER NYC :D[/QUOTE]

If the question were: "What are general forums for?", then you might be correct. But now let me pose a more specific question to you: What are PHOTO threads for?

I reply in the same thread where the original question was asked to make it easier for the poster.

Get a life. You've always been stuck on this post this there, post it here crap.

Get on with it or email the webmaster and apply to become a moderator.

Good luck.

MISTER NYC :D

Don't waste your breath NYC...

Its the same on every message board CS is on...

His way or the highway...

I have a suggestion, create your own PHP board and then run it anyway you see fit.

Peace:
WSJ3
:)