Berlin

[Voyer1]

Hi guys,

I read the last 12pages, I see that King George is not that good, seems there is only one good who is any good and the rest are pretty crappy? Anyone care to shed any updates on that?

I'm torn between either King George or the http://www.freudenhaus-hase.de.

As I'm on a budget and tend only to spend one day of going to either one of them.

Anyone have any reviews on Kit Kat club or Insomnia, didn't find anything in the last 10 pages of this thread.

[Charlie 123]

Finding a twenties German GFE will not be easy. First of all read the blog and maybe Charlie's recent post. With escorts you are really just rolling the dice unless you can come up with some solid intel. In Berlin the vast majority of twenties escorts in a reasonable price range will be EE or SE girls (Poland, Romania, Bulgaria and if very luck, Russia or the Ukraine). All I can suggest is to comb the forum (Charlie has some good recommendations for escorts) and be prepared to drop the German condition. If you can find a girl in one of the may escort sites that says "nationality German" chances are she has at least spent a good portion of her life here and thus can pass for German. But no guarantees and no guarantee of the GFE.

Alternately you can spend a bit more and contact KD escort service (Kamilla Dee). See Bobo's post for advice here. But if you call them, tell them you want a German national I am sure that they will be able to help. It will however cost you more than €90.

Good Luck and no worries about the input you have received-as long as you write up your reports at the end of this all.

AM

Spot on. I use the cheaper-end escort agencies semi-regularly and there are 5 or 6 that I have tried and found to be reliable and good value. You can search this thread and find my various reports if you wish.

German girls are in short supply via the agencies, especially at the lower end of the price spectrum. They won't work for those wages, and they don't need to give an agency the significant cut that the EE girls do.

You will find plenty of independents on the Berlin-intim website who are genuine German girls. I can't recommend any personally 'because I don't do independents. But your best bet would be to do as Angus suggests and call one of the established bordelles like KD or perhaps VK, and order a take-away.

Good luck,

Charlie.

P. S.. Why are you after a German girl? There's nothing wrong with German girls, but nothing terribly special about German SP's in my experience. They're not 'hotter' or 'dirtier' than any of the EE girls, or especially prettier either. Perhaps you should have a think about the reasons why you find yourself feeling attracted to the idea of a German girl, because the features you seek may be more widely available than you imagine.

[Charlie 123]

Yes it was strange. Same thing always happens at Tiffany (I have to ask for the shower if I want one) I made a short visit to Tiffany bt the lineup was poor, like 3 girls, one who reminded me a bit of goofy, the cartoon character. (teeth and expression) I asked for Kelly bt she was booked for the day. Asked for Pia and the Hasmutti just locked at the clock in response. I said that I would come back some other time ("zürruckkommen") and got a bit rude response "und!" And then saying Kelly would still be busy and Pia not there. I thought to myself isn't it my business if I return later today hoping for a better parade or if I skip it to another day. I don't need to explain myself. I just said "jaja, andere Tag" before I was let out. Visited Tiffany quite a few times but most times with Pia. Though I feel the attitude from the management there is somehow lacking in friendlyness. Headed off to KD for a total different experience where I was warmly received, both by the lady of the house and the girls in the parade.

For better erotic massage experience Ekstase is the place. But since Christina stopped working there I haven't really returned (with one exception) Unfourtnenately Christina is nowhere to be found now (not to my knowledge at least)

I've been there just one time, coincidentially also with Pia (who was pretty good). This bordelle is a bit of a factory in my mind, and the sort of experience that you recount is not of great surprise to me. I think the way to get the best out of Tiffany's is to call in advance, make a booking with a specific girl from whom you know exactly what you want, arrive punctually and expect a business-like encounter with both the SP and the ancillary staff. With that as your M. O, I believe that one can have a good time at Tiffany's. If you want to be romanced, try somewhere else (KD, Monrouge or Artemis for example)

Best,

Charlie

[Charlie 123]

Vote for Artemis :

Angus : +

Charlie :?

Artemis gets a ++ from me.

I go there most weeks, so I'm a big fan. As Angus suggests, to get the greatest benefit from an FKK experience requires a certain amount of strategy, self-confidence (either innate or acquired through experience) and various inter-personal skills. But the advantages of being able to spend a little time with the girls before you go to the room with them affords one a huge advantage over the bordelle scene. In a bordelle, the time window you get to choose your girl is hardly sufficient to determine whether you like her, let alone whether she likes you. At Artemis you get a proper chance to find out whether you both 'click', although there is still no absolute certainty of course.

I strongly recommend that, if you are sexually inquisitive in any way, that you try Artemis one time. If it's not for you, then you will have blown a small 3-figure sum. If you fall in love with the place you will be delighted that you gave it a chance, and over the next few years you will have the opportunity to blow a substantial 5-figure sum.

Charlie

[Kbkbal]

Finding a twenties German GFE will not be easy. First of all read the blog and maybe Charlie's recent post. With escorts you are really just rolling the dice unless you can come up with some solid intel. In Berlin the vast majority of twenties escorts in a reasonable price range will be EE or SE girls (Poland, Romania, Bulgaria and if very luck, Russia or the Ukraine). All I can suggest is to comb the forum (Charlie has some good recommendations for escorts) and be prepared to drop the German condition. If you can find a girl in one of the may escort sites that says "nationality German" chances are she has at least spent a good portion of her life here and thus can pass for German. But no guarantees and no guarantee of the GFE.

Alternately you can spend a bit more and contact KD escort service (Kamilla Dee). See Bobo's post for advice here. But if you call them, tell them you want a German national I am sure that they will be able to help. It will however cost you more than €90.

Good Luck and no worries about the input you have received-as long as you write up your reports at the end of this all.

AM

Thanks, Angus. I was going to give KD a go anyway (maybe Mercedes) so will call them when I get there.

[Angus Magee]

For better erotic massage experience Ekstase is the place. But since Christina stopped working there I haven't really returned (with one exception) Unfourtnenately Christina is nowhere to be found now (not to my knowledge at least)

Currently the best place for erotic massage, according to the German forum is Roxanna's massgae.

http://roxana.rotlichtmodelle.de/galery.html

There are just two (sometimes three) ladies working there so do not expect to just show up. Make an appointment. Both the ladies pictured get universally enthusiastic write ups and are very, very popular. Here you will not get sex or even a blow job but, if you play your cards right, you will get just about everything else erotic.

Roxannas's is very high on my list of must do's.

AM

[Angus Magee]

. Discovered your excellent blog! Tried to send you a message there but not sure if it went through. The question I had is if you guys can recommend a good GFE escort, ideally a German girl in her twenties. That would round off my Berlin weekend as I shall be checking out Artemis as well as sampling a Tantric massage at Kashima.

Danke!

Finding a twenties German GFE will not be easy. First of all read the blog and maybe Charlie's recent post. With escorts you are really just rolling the dice unless you can come up with some solid intel. In Berlin the vast majority of twenties escorts in a reasonable price range will be EE or SE girls (Poland, Romania, Bulgaria and if very luck, Russia or the Ukraine). All I can suggest is to comb the forum (Charlie has some good recommendations for escorts) and be prepared to drop the German condition. If you can find a girl in one of the may escort sites that says "nationality German" chances are she has at least spent a good portion of her life here and thus can pass for German. But no guarantees and no guarantee of the GFE.

Alternately you can spend a bit more and contact KD escort service (Kamilla Dee). See Bobo's post for advice here. But if you call them, tell them you want a German national I am sure that they will be able to help. It will however cost you more than €90.

Good Luck and no worries about the input you have received-as long as you write up your reports at the end of this all.

AM

[Merkur]

Merkur I had the same WTF. No shower. Also, I had a sense that they play mindgames there at Harmonie.

I've had worse. But I've had better.

Yes it was strange. Same thing always happens at Tiffany (I have to ask for the shower if I want one) I made a short visit to Tiffany bt the lineup was poor, like 3 girls, one who reminded me a bit of goofy, the cartoon character. (teeth and expression) I asked for Kelly bt she was booked for the day. Asked for Pia and the Hasmutti just locked at the clock in response. I said that I would come back some other time ("zürruckkommen") and got a bit rude response "und!" And then saying Kelly would still be busy and Pia not there. I thought to myself isn't it my business if I return later today hoping for a better parade or if I skip it to another day. I don't need to explain myself. I just said "jaja, andere Tag" before I was let out. Visited Tiffany quite a few times but most times with Pia. Though I feel the attitude from the management there is somehow lacking in friendlyness. Headed off to KD for a total different experience where I was warmly received, both by the lady of the house and the girls in the parade.

For better erotic massage experience Ekstase is the place. But since Christina stopped working there I haven't really returned (with one exception) Unfourtnenately Christina is nowhere to be found now (not to my knowledge at least)

[Kbkbal]

Vote for Artemis :

Angus : +

Charlie :?

Bobo :.

In general I don't like much sauna clubs where I found that I wasted a lot of my time.

But I like sauna and I like sauna clubs that offer nice outdoor (for example Yin Yang in The Netherlands :

http://www.yinyang.nl/en/

). Artemis doesn't offer this possibility.

Furthermore Artemis is expensive comparing to Yin Yang or other sauna-clubs in the "NRW lander" (50 Euros for entrance and 75 Euros for one hour session while, with Artemis, if I remember well, the entrance fee is 80 Euros and one hour session will cost 120 Euros)

By the way, in one of my previous post (

http://www.internationalsexguide.inf...=1#post1087728

) , I already noticed that :

2 "hours" of sex in Artemis will cost 60 Euros * 4 = 240 Euros + 80 Euros (entrance) = 320 Euros = 2 hours of meeting at Kamilla-Dee

(Of course, KD doesn't offer sauna, meals,"swimming pool". Etc.)

Angus and Bobo, thanks again. Apologies for all the questions. This is my first visit to Berlin, and I do appreciate your patience, guys. If you guys ever visit Bangkok, Hong Kong or Singapore do let me know if you need any information.

Angus. Discovered your excellent blog! Tried to send you a message there but not sure if it went through. The question I had is if you guys can recommend a good GFE escort, ideally a German girl in her twenties. That would round off my Berlin weekend as I shall be checking out Artemis as well as sampling a Tantric massage at Kashima.

Danke!

[The Limey]

Headed off to Harmoniemassagen and Alexandra opened the door:

Being offered a shower is simply obligaotory.

Merkur I had the same WTF. No shower. Also, I had a sense that they play mindgames there at Harmonie.

I've had worse. But I've had better.

[Bobo.fr]

Angus, Charlie, Bobo, ..etc ... Are places like Artemis any good?

Vote for Artemis :

Angus : +

Charlie :?

Bobo : -

In general I don't like much sauna clubs where I found that I wasted a lot of my time.

But I like sauna and I like sauna clubs that offer nice outdoor (for example Yin Yang in The Netherlands : http://www.yinyang.nl/en/ ). Artemis doesn't offer this possibility.

Furthermore Artemis is expensive comparing to Yin Yang or other sauna-clubs in the "NRW lander" (50 Euros for entrance and 75 Euros for one hour session while, with Artemis, if I remember well, the entrance fee is 80 Euros and one hour session will cost 120 Euros)

By the way, in one of my previous post ( http://www.internationalsexguide.inf...=1#post1087728 ), I already noticed that :
2 "hours" of sex in Artemis will cost 60 Euros * 4 = 240 Euros + 80 Euros (entrance) = 320 Euros = 2 hours of meeting at Kamilla-Dee
(Of course, KD doesn't offer sauna, meals, "swimming pool" .etc .)

[Merkur]

Visted these two massage parlours and thought I'd write up some reports.

Being public holiday Thursday I struggled a bit finding some places that were open. Headed off to Thantawan first but noone answered the bell. Tried again at 12:00 and was informed by a guy in there no girls arrived yet and that they opened at 12:00. Put me off a bit meeting a guy in this context which I guess was running the place. Waiting outside from the corner I only saw 1 girl arriving. I thought that would not be a good selection of girls and also the uneasiness of having to book my massage through the "manager" which for me is very unsual.

Headed off to Harmoniemassagen and Alexandra opened the door:

http://www.harmoniemassagen.de/images/girl13/girl.htm

It seemed to be a lazy day as I passed one girl resting on the couch. I choose Alexandra (from what I understood it was just Alexandra and this girl on the couch) Booked half hour with some oily spanish massage, great tits on Alexandra but unfourtnately she made herself little accessible for rubbing her pussy. Quite loud music during the massage and I was not offered a massage before or after the massage which I thought was very strange. Location okay, but very basic. I know I can't expect the level of a tantra institute but really. Being offered a shower is simply obligaotory. I did not get to splash her tits though I didn't ask explicitly either. But when you book a spanish massage cummin on her tits should be included. On the way out I now saw two girls resting on the couch. Not much business it seemed!

Today I was looking for another massage experience and tried to find some info about good asian massage places. What I'm looking for is in this regard is the more "innocent" place meaning it should not be sleazy / vulgar or get you to cum as soon as possible. I'm not looking for the "obvious place" but a place where I first get a very good massage from an asian girl and then integrates an enjoyable intimate massage in the session (maybe after asking me first when it comes to that and not demanding any extra cash) Maybe I'm asking too much? But it kind of loose much of the exictement when you book an "erotic massage" and its obvious for both parts what is going to happen. Well, no time to ask for advice on the forum as it was nearing closing time (but I still like advice for another day) so I headed off to Aphrodite massagen instead. Seemed to be only one girl there so not much to choose from: http://www.aphrodite-massagen.de/galery_8.php

I chose half hour massage and was asked if I wanted the "kombi massage" or "gegenseitige massage". Not sure about the difference really but choose the "kombi massage" at 70€ (10€ more expensive than the other) Session felt very mechanical and more like "going through the motions". She was very quiet and didn't do much to create an erotic mood, no smiles during the massage or enjoyment to spot. Trying to rub her pussy she signaled for me to stop. Again no finishing on her tits. After using her boody a bit towards me she stood up and faced against me so I could only see her ass and not the face. The whole thing reminded me of the "bored eastern european girl" kind of girls which heads off as soon as I've finished leaving me to dry up my self. No cuddling, talk or anything.

Guess she was Russian as I heard her speaking Russian on the phone right after I finished. Only after the session I spotted a smile from her. Well, I can see that, she doesn't have to do more work as I've finished and she gotten my Euro so naturally she is happy. But lacheln / smiling / joyfulness / friendlyness from the start doesn't hurt to keep the customer happy!

Left the place feeling it didn't give value for more (10€ more would have given half an hour on KD in the company of a great girl) feeling empty but hungry. And somehow regretful I didn't spend my money on a tasty wagyu beef instead. .

Dissapointed from both these two places. (altough as you can see from the pics Alexandra is the one with the "good body" and the session with her was significantly better than the one at aphrodite massagen) Maybe I was just unlucky but I had a not too good experience in Aphfrodite massagen before from a different girl where I booked spanish massage and she confirmed it before handing over the money. But during the massage she said she would give me a optikmassage instead as she did not really fancy spanish massage!

I have a tantra massage booked for tomorrow and thats in a different league and which I feel certain will be very enjoyable as I've had many great tantra experiences in the past and its a more sensual and peaceful experience leaving me in a total different state of mind.

[Angus Magee]

Angus, Charlie, Bobo, thanks for your replies. I'll definitely be checking out KD. Any recommendations? Could I also ask. Are places like Artemis any good?

Are places like Artemis any good? Hard question to answer in just a few words.

Yes, but you have to realize that it takes a little more time and effort to get the most bang for your euro. Ultimately though having the chance to speak and interact with the ladies in an FKK makes it a superior experience In my opinion.

A

[Kbkbal]

Personnally, I think that it depends on the ladies : the standard is with condom but if some ladies prefer without condom (in my life, I already met women who didn't like the latex taste of condom, and I did buy condoms with fruit taste or chocolate taste!) , they are not forbidden to do that (furthermore, the fear of HIV is not the same as it was in the years 80-90 and young girls (and young boys who ask more and more for uncover BJ, for CIM, swallow. Etc.) growed up without this fear (fellows who were born in these years 80-90 are now around 20-30 years old already and may be sex-workers).

By the way, if ever PURE means "without condom","new" Mercedes' page mentionned it explicitely :

http://www.kamilla-dee.com/english/s...mercedes-e.htm

Angus, Charlie, Bobo, thanks for your replies. I'll definitely be checking out KD. Any recommendations? Could I also ask. Are places like Artemis any good?

[Bobo.fr]

Confirmed.

Many of the Berlin bordelles seem to be coming up with all sorts of promotions to counter the economic downturn. Perhaps KD are finding it difficult to maintain their house covered-BJ policy in the face of the competition?

Or maybe my uncovered dick was just too much for the girls to resist?

C

Personnally, I think that it depends on the ladies : the standard is with condom but if some ladies prefer without condom (in my life, I already met women who didn't like the latex taste of condom, and I did buy condoms with fruit taste or chocolate taste!) , they are not forbidden to do that (furthermore, the fear of HIV is not the same as it was in the years 80-90 and young girls (and young boys who ask more and more for uncover BJ, for CIM, swallow .etc .) growed up without this fear (fellows who were born in these years 80-90 are now around 20-30 years old already and may be sex-workers).

By the way, if ever PURE means "without condom","new" Mercedes' page mentionned it explicitely :

http://www.kamilla-dee.com/english/s...mercedes-e.htm