Santa Cruz de la Sierra

[Member #4366]

Your (and other posters') enthusiasm about SC makes me believe I've missed some vital 'link' when I visited. Perhaps I just didn't get it. My point of reference is Rio, where you can find massage places, termas and common brothels easily. These places are not hard to find and addresses and 'previews' are being shared on this board. In SC, you can find some of these places as well (except for the termas, of course) but they are much more hidden. I found only two 'casas de citas' in SC but I'm convinced there are many more:

VIP, Radial 10 #2000 entre Anillo 4 and 5. Prices quoted were B$200 and B$300 per hour, depending on the girl. Not expensive at all but there were only 3 girls when I visited (in the afternoon) and none to my liking. The reception was far from friendly and I didn't like the atmosphere. The girls were totally cold and indifferent. I did not like the neighborhood and would definitely not visit at night.

Bellas, Anillo 3 ext. #3735 entre Mutualista and Paraguana. Prices between B$250 and B$350 per hour. Same cold reception as in the other place. I don't think they got many foreign visitors as they obviously didn't know how to 'handle' me. As in the other place, I was essentially ignored. Also in this place, there were only 3 girls present when I visited (afternoon).

You are right that prices are considerably lower than in most other places in Latin America. Especially Brazil is getting outrageously expensive these days, much to my regret. Bolivia is still cheap (although SC is more expensive than Cochabamba, where I visited 2 years ago). And indeed, there is a lot of variety in SC when it comes to girls (and I do like that very much). However, I wonder what you mean with "easy to pick up a girl.". Do you mean a callgirl you ordered to your hotel room or a girl you met in a club? Or do you mean a non-pro (or semi-pro) you met downtown? As I mentioned in my previous post, the 'normal' girls I saw on the central plaza did not seem interested at all. When I smiled at them they simply ignored me. Well, that could be age and looks related, of course. I'm not that young anymore. Please tell me about your approach in SC. If I really missed out on something good, I may consider to go there again. I like a challenge. However, my next visit will definitely not be in the Bolivian summer season, which is unbearable IMHO. By the way, I do speak some Spanish (although not fluently) so language was not the main barrier.

Sorry to hear of your experience in SC. It is very different from any of mine. I have been there 17 times, and each has been fantastic. Compared with other places? Yes, it still shines in comparison. Have been to Brazil, Arg, chile, Peru, and Venz and would rate all lower, MUCH lower in the case of Argentina. Have been to Europe and Asia as well, and orient too. Santa Cruz is the best place I have every found for the man that likes variety. Gringos, Indigenous, or castillian mixed are all ready and relatively cheap. Easy to pick up a girl and "honeymoon" with her. Take here somewhere. Anywhere. And travel for a few days. Makes the trips exciting. I have taken girls to buenos aires for a few days twice. They are sooo greatful, and they don't need a passport. Or, if you're just clubbing, try some of the new (Sol Y Luna, Sol Ardiente, solid gold, and such in addition to Curry's and Ceasars and Cafe show. Have the hotel concierge send you a babe. You'll love it, and tip him accordingly, and he will try harder next time. Try this. Go to Sol Ardiente. Pick up a Sea Donkey. Tell her what you want, and if she will find it for you, you'll give her a finders fee. It works. Sea Donkeys don't get much business, and love to get drinks, hence arm bands, and hence respect and $. I have nailed the most beautiful chica in several places with the same technic. A good looking local, with many connections is essential if you want to recruit civilians. My advice. Don't. All of the servers in the main clubs can be had for the right price. Bargaining, teasing, negotiating is a fun part. You should get skilled at this. And always, always, tip and ask the club security for advice. Willy Dee

[UpToNoGood]

I will be back in SCZ in early Febr. For a few weeks of R&R. Yes, I love the warm weather especially when the northern USA is in a deep freeze.

I have never been disappointed in Bolivia except for being there on Sundays or during Easter, when there is pittifully nothing to do.

I also have been around the world and find SCZ at the top of the list. I used to think Dom Rep was great but in SCZ there are more nonprofessionals. That makes it more fun.

Yes, it is important to speak some Spanish in SCZ, like it is to speak some French in Paris, even if you just want to buy a baguette.

I hope to try some of the new venues this time.

[Willy Dee]

I'm in Santa Cruz right now on my first (and probably last) visit. There are very few options here, compared with almost all other South American countries (and I visited most of them). Even Asuncion was better. The worst is the suffocating heat all day and night, which really saps my strength. Any casas are hard to find, which is surprising for such a big city. I did find two places though but went away again as there was a general lack of good looks. 'Come back later! ', they told me. 'There will be more girls at night'. Yeah, right, at night I'd rather avoid those neighbourhoods.

I did go to Kaprichoos last night but was very disappointed by the lack of talent. There were only a few girls which were not worth the high asking price. O. K, it was Sunday, so there is probably more choice on other nights. Nearby Cafe Show was closed.

This place may be ok if you're on a business trip and want to sample the local talent but it sucks for a real mongering trip IMHO. Some very good looking girls on the Place 24 Septiembre all right but clearly not into business: my smiles were never returned.

Sorry to hear of your experience in SC. It is very different from any of mine. I have been there 17 times, and each has been fantastic. Compared with other places? Yes, it still shines in comparison. Have been to Brazil, Arg, chile, Peru, and Venz and would rate all lower, MUCH lower in the case of Argentina. Have been to Europe and Asia as well, and orient too. Santa Cruz is the best place I have every found for the man that likes variety. Gringos, Indigenous, or castillian mixed are all ready and relatively cheap. Easy to pick up a girl and "honeymoon" with her. Take here somewhere. Anywhere. And travel for a few days. Makes the trips exciting. I have taken girls to buenos aires for a few days twice. They are sooo greatful, and they don't need a passport. Or, if you're just clubbing, try some of the new (Sol Y Luna, Sol Ardiente, solid gold, and such in addition to Curry's and Ceasars and Cafe show. Have the hotel concierge send you a babe. You'll love it, and tip him accordingly, and he will try harder next time. Try this. Go to Sol Ardiente. Pick up a Sea Donkey. Tell her what you want, and if she will find it for you, you'll give her a finders fee. It works. Sea Donkeys don't get much business, and love to get drinks, hence arm bands, and hence respect and $. I have nailed the most beautiful chica in several places with the same technic. A good looking local, with many connections is essential if you want to recruit civilians. My advice. Don't. All of the servers in the main clubs can be had for the right price. Bargaining, teasing, negotiating is a fun part. You should get skilled at this. And always, always, tip and ask the club security for advice. Willy Dee

[Hotman 666]

Only with a good knowlege of lingua locale you may score.

In Bolivia other attractions are worth a vist. Not the monger venues.

My Spanish is definitely NOT good but in the past I have had success at finding 'civilians' (Part timers / Amateurs) in and around the Plaza Principal or in many of the bars around the centre or in the Equipetrol area. Many are students who enjoy the chance to practise English!

As I usually have to be up and out rather in the mornings I generally do not go to the clubs but when I am not able to find a civilian playmate I like to order 'room service' from my hotel. (See my report of 27. 08. 11)

For around 60-70 US$ I have always had a MOST ENJOYABLE experience and sometimes it is rather nice to see what will arrive at your hotel! I have NEVER been disappointed!

OK, I agree that S. C. Is NOT the best place in S. America to go to JUST for Mongering but, if you are there, it seems to ME that it is ALLWAYS possible to find an enthusiastic young playmate for a relaxing hour or two.

Personally I rather like the place.

Enjoy, I do.

Hotman.

[Amadeuss]

Best part of my trip there was when totally random walked past the Bank of Brazil branch on a Friday afternoon at 4 pm. Made friends instantly and made for a great weekend.

Only with a good knowlege of lingua locale you may score.

I was on a party at a friends house. 50 people middle / upper class, only 5 of them could speak english to communicate. Well, one of them a lady in her late 30-ies, big tits, big ass (as it comes in SouthAmerika as a package.) and I could score. But then. Still nothing to shout about.

In Bolivia other attractions are worth a vist. Not the monger venues.

[Golfinho]

Best part of my trip there was when totally random walked past the Bank of Brazil branch on a Friday afternoon at 4 pm. Made friends instantly and made for a great weekend.

[LittleTruths]

I'm in Santa Cruz right now on my first (and probably last) visit. There are very few options here, compared with almost all other South American countries (and I visited most of them). Even Asuncion was better. The worst is the suffocating heat all day and night, which really saps my strength. Any casas are hard to find, which is surprising for such a big city. I did find two places though but went away again as there was a general lack of good looks. 'Come back later! ', they told me. 'There will be more girls at night'. Yeah, right, at night I'd rather avoid those neighbourhoods.

I did go to Kaprichoos last night but was very disappointed by the lack of talent. There were only a few girls which were not worth the high asking price. O. K, it was Sunday, so there is probably more choice on other nights. Nearby Cafe Show was closed.

This place may be ok if you're on a business trip and want to sample the local talent but it sucks for a real mongering trip IMHO. Some very good looking girls on the Place 24 Septiembre all right but clearly not into business: my smiles were never returned.

Agree about the heat, that in this time of the year gets really oppressing. I also agree that there are much better places than this and that it doesn't really make sense to go there on a mongering trip.

Still tho, I must say that Santa Cruz de la Sierra is one of the few places I've been to where I would really love to get back one day, and this time not on a business trip.

It's not for everyone, sure thing; but its got a certain dunnowhat about itself that I just love and that I've got very good memories of, in spite of the heat, the shit and even the yellow fever that I got there during my stay.

Bolivia is a place that has much to offer, but it isn't a place to go to if pussy is the sole trip goal of the traveller.

Bless

[Member #4366]

I'm in Santa Cruz right now on my first (and probably last) visit. There are very few options here, compared with almost all other South American countries (and I visited most of them). Even Asuncion was better. The worst is the suffocating heat all day and night, which really saps my strength. Any casas are hard to find, which is surprising for such a big city. I did find two places though but went away again as there was a general lack of good looks. 'Come back later! ', they told me. 'There will be more girls at night'. Yeah, right, at night I'd rather avoid those neighbourhoods.

I did go to Kaprichoos last night but was very disappointed by the lack of talent. There were only a few girls which were not worth the high asking price. O. K, it was Sunday, so there is probably more choice on other nights. Nearby Cafe Show was closed.

This place may be ok if you're on a business trip and want to sample the local talent but it sucks for a real mongering trip IMHO. Some very good looking girls on the Place 24 Septiembre all right but clearly not into business: my smiles were never returned.

[Amadeuss]

Appreciate if you could give more info on this. How to find, price range and option of take-out?

Well. Great guys here on the board. No help at all. And their opinion that SC is great.man oh man. Where had you been before?

Its a boring town. Only the big Plaza Sept24 some people walking round. Otherwise deserted, hot, dusty.

Restaurants of low quality. But well, for people happy with a chewey steak tastless barbecued. It fits.

Spanish the ONLY mode of communication. Other languages non existant. Simply becasue the education system is one of the worse in whole South Amerika. How can the chicas learn to talk to me?

Dayaction. Call ads from ElDeber. A hit'and'miss. Got 3 girls to my appt. All not exceeding a 5 on my scale, due to their sagging bellies once naked and too big asses. 350 BS. 50-$ a ripoff for a 20 min all covered mediocre service.

Nightlife starts at midnight and lasts until 3 at night. Terrific timing!

Girls in the discos on the take are not working girls, service oriented. But bitches. Look closer and you see their wrinkles and heavily painted faces. Asking for 500 BS or more (80. 100$) ohh my god. And that in a country where a professional secretary makes 250 $/month and needs to suck my dick before she gets hired. But the gringo oil workers don't mind and pay.

Was on parties of the better middle class: those 30+ ladies. Ohh holy moly : you should see their elephant asses. And the young chicas? . If you a latino dancer, parking your car with a built in ghetto blaster min 1000 W speakers bumping some rock. You may be the men.

Street scene at the 2nd funicular or how they call it. Where the cemetry is: drove by in a cab, got almost molested: extreme agressive bunch of working girls. They offered 100 BS for shag in the car. The cab driver didn't want to partake. Passed on then.

All in all. Not a town to travel to by free willy.

[Amadeuss]

Sorry, didn't finish.

If you want to visit the houses, I can help you there too. It is common at one of these to have new girls at mid day. They need to be instructed a little. But cheap and fun.

Willy Dee

Appreciate if you could give more info on this. How to find, price range and option of take-out?

[Chevel69]

Santa Cruz only.

Stayed at Los Tajibos (IMHO best hotel there)

Great pool area. Guy next to me was entertaining 4-5 chica's for 3-4 days. They were hanging out by the pool all the time.

Fun to watch.

Monday night cafe show, limited number of girls.

Found one, so so experience. But they did allow her to enter without an I'd, which was interesting.

They are usually very strict.

Cesars is no more, new place "Red Lips"

Almost right next door.

Very modern, big, lots of girls. 6-9's.

Bar fine is 500 BOB expensive for take out.

Private room for 15-20 min dance is 200 BOB.

Found a couple of "friends, got their number to arrange outside activities", this was much more efficient.

Curry's.

Went one night, wasn't feelin it, left.

Not many girls.

Didn't like the vibe. No overnight from the girls (what they said, only 2 hrs)

Taxi took me to a private house one night. Didn't like it at all.

Chica's not very attractive, left.

Didn't use el deber but this remains a good option if you speak spanish.

Overall positive experience

[Chevel69]

Hi Chevel,

I'm looking forward to some reports. Are you travelling only to Santa Cruz or are you going to small towns? Anyway please report!

Will be in Santa Cruz only.

[Kimbrough]

Will be back in Santa Cruz in 3 weeks. This time staying for 7 days.

I hope to have many reports! Its been a little slow on here.

Hi Chevel,

I'm looking forward to some reports. Are you travelling only to Santa Cruz or are you going to small towns? Anyway please report!

[Chevel69]

Will be back in Santa Cruz in 3 weeks. This time staying for 7 days.

I hope to have many reports! Its been a little slow on here.

[Hotman 666]

I am returning to SCZ, one of my favorite haunts, on 8/22/11 and will depart 8/27/11.

If any of you cares to sample some of the nightclubs and other venues with me, let me know.

If you had a pm facility I could have contacted you!

Enjoy Santa Cruz,

I did!

Hotman.