Berlin

[Bobo.fr]

Hello,

Here's the thread dedicated to Artemis : http://www.internationalsexguide.inf...Artemis-Berlin

03:00 depart from home, fine weather in Berlin. Breakfast, long sightseeing walk, lunch before taking apartment in Shoeneberg €60 / night. Beautiful neighbourhood with good transport connections. Strongly recommended.

Main event of the day: taking my 84 year old father to Artemis. I arrange entertainment, he is generous enough just to spectate and pay.

Artemis is easy to get to from Westkreuz (just keep going left out of the station). Friendly efficient reception and we can already see amazing near naked girls walking past the top of the reception stairs.

7pm on a Monday: supposedly a quiet day. After getting over the initial shock of dozens of stunning (really) girls, I did a quick count. There were 30 or so and about a dozen punters. By about 10pm there were 50 girls but nearly as many punters.

We talked to an italian, a canadian, some locals and a punter from Dubai. They all agreed it was the best display of women they had ever seen. Some of the girls were content to wait (quite a long time) to be chosen. Others walked around and nonchalantly bent over, tweaked a nipple, or rubbed their pussy, as one does if trying not to draw attention. Some were more upfront, coming really close or sitting on your lap and trying to persuade you to try them. None were too pushy, however and many were charming and very tempting. We talked to german, Hungarian, Romanian and columbian girls among others.

I had already decided on one of at least 4 girls astonishingly close to my ideal: very slim blondes with small breasts, narrow hips and long legs. I have NEVER had a choice of such girls! I chose Cindy from Poland but also spoke to Verena from Bulgaria.

I wanted to make the most of the Artemis experience so my dad and I enjoyed the view, had a sauna etc and I delayed going with Cindy for about an hour and a half.

Cindy had a beautiful smile, spoke good english and my session with her was very good. Stunning smooth body, slow, deep OWO. 69, lengthy cowgirl with varying pace and depth but absolutely excellent then doggy and missionary. She doesn't kiss and it wasn't exactly a GFE but I am 3 times her age (yes I should be ashamed but I'm not) and she put a lot of effort into giving me a really good time. Just to feel that perfect girlish figure was amazing.

Afterwards I introduced her to my father and then commended her to another punter who chose her and Verena to give him a private show (!)

We enjoyed the buffet before a last tour of the premises. By this time it was busier and the girls were being more forward. By 10:30 anybody sat in the Kino alone was guaranteed to have a girl come and sit next to him and often to kiss, fondle and even give a blow job, and this just as an invitation to the main event.

I did find myself wondering whether instead of going for my 'perfect girl' I should have gone with the flow and let a girl try hard to convince me. I am very choosy but of the 50 girls there. 10 were my type, another 20 I would have done without hesitation 10 could have convinced me to try them and only the last 10 would I not have wanted.

My father didn't partake but loved the whole experience. We may return but I don't expect to. I want to try some of Berlin's other offerings. I doubt whether they will live up to this, but I live in hope.

Total damage:

€80 + €40 (pensioner's rate!) entrance.

€40 for 4 beers (ouch!)

€60 for 30min owo. 69 and sex with a goddess.

= 2 satisfied customers.

Postscript:

There was a little guy curled up on a couch most of the time we were there. As we left he was asking about the U-Bahn so we guided him there. He turned out to be french and a bit shell shocked and we discovered he had been there since 10am and had been with five girls 'mais la cinquieme and'etait pas si bon que les autres' we congratulated him and I invited him to join me on a budget session at King George tomorrow.

To be continued

[Daffon]

03:00 depart from home, fine weather in Berlin. Breakfast, long sightseeing walk, lunch before taking apartment in Shoeneberg €60 / night. Beautiful neighbourhood with good transport connections. Strongly recommended.

Main event of the day: taking my 84 year old father to Artemis. I arrange entertainment, he is generous enough just to spectate and pay.

Artemis is easy to get to from Westkreuz (just keep going left out of the station). Friendly efficient reception and we can already see amazing near naked girls walking past the top of the reception stairs.

7pm on a Monday: supposedly a quiet day. After getting over the initial shock of dozens of stunning (really) girls, I did a quick count. There were 30 or so and about a dozen punters. By about 10pm there were 50 girls but nearly as many punters.

We talked to an italian, a canadian, some locals and a punter from Dubai. They all agreed it was the best display of women they had ever seen. Some of the girls were content to wait (quite a long time) to be chosen. Others walked around and nonchalantly bent over, tweaked a nipple, or rubbed their pussy, as one does if trying not to draw attention. Some were more upfront, coming really close or sitting on your lap and trying to persuade you to try them. None were too pushy, however and many were charming and very tempting. We talked to german, Hungarian, Romanian and columbian girls among others.

I had already decided on one of at least 4 girls astonishingly close to my ideal: very slim blondes with small breasts, narrow hips and long legs. I have NEVER had a choice of such girls! I chose Cindy from Poland but also spoke to Verena from Bulgaria.

I wanted to make the most of the Artemis experience so my dad and I enjoyed the view, had a sauna etc and I delayed going with Cindy for about an hour and a half.

Cindy had a beautiful smile, spoke good english and my session with her was very good. Stunning smooth body, slow, deep OWO. 69, lengthy cowgirl with varying pace and depth but absolutely excellent then doggy and missionary. She doesn't kiss and it wasn't exactly a GFE but I am 3 times her age (yes I should be ashamed but I'm not) and she put a lot of effort into giving me a really good time. Just to feel that perfect girlish figure was amazing.

Afterwards I introduced her to my father and then commended her to another punter who chose her and Verena to give him a private show (!)

We enjoyed the buffet before a last tour of the premises. By this time it was busier and the girls were being more forward. By 10:30 anybody sat in the Kino alone was guaranteed to have a girl come and sit next to him and often to kiss, fondle and even give a blow job, and this just as an invitation to the main event.

I did find myself wondering whether instead of going for my 'perfect girl' I should have gone with the flow and let a girl try hard to convince me. I am very choosy but of the 50 girls there. 10 were my type, another 20 I would have done without hesitation 10 could have convinced me to try them and only the last 10 would I not have wanted.

My father didn't partake but loved the whole experience. We may return but I don't expect to. I want to try some of Berlin's other offerings. I doubt whether they will live up to this, but I live in hope.

Total damage:

€80 + €40 (pensioner's rate!) entrance.

€40 for 4 beers (ouch!)

€60 for 30min owo. 69 and sex with a goddess.

= 2 satisfied customers.

Postscript:

There was a little guy curled up on a couch most of the time we were there. As we left he was asking about the U-Bahn so we guided him there. He turned out to be french and a bit shell shocked and we discovered he had been there since 10am and had been with five girls 'mais la cinquieme and'etait pas si bon que les autres' we congratulated him and I invited him to join me on a budget session at King George tomorrow.

To be continued

[Bobo.fr]

. Etc.

As for email bookings-generally I would forget about it. I do not really think many bordellos pay much attention to email bookings. I can imagine that for them it is not the most reliable way of setting up appointments. Best is to call ahead an hour or two before you want to go in and then show up on time, calling ahead if you are running late.

AM

With Kamilla-Dee, there are "appointments" and "arrangements" ("escorts") : see http://www.internationalsexguide.inf...86#post1062086

For KD's appointments : only phone calls should be used.

For KD's arrangements : email can be used efficiently, phone calls possible (notice that phone numbers for appointments and for arrangements are NOT the same) , SMS possible (BUT NOT with the phone numbers published on the web site; KD will give you the right number for SMS after first contacts).

[Bobo.fr]

Hello, Charlie,

. etc . On balance, would you advise booking in advance or turning up on spec?

Personnally, I prefer booking in advance; apparently this preference seems odd to (some?) Dutch and Kolner-German punters!

The main problem would be that we could only base our choice on photos (but this is common to "real" escort system).

For those who work only with appointments ("nur termine"/"appointments only") , we have no choice! (Examples : Nicole, Caro, Ella, Lisa in http://www.kamilla-dee.com/english/girls_e.htm)

But most of them work for both ("escorts" and "at the house Blissestrasse") so what I often try to do is to notice the ladies during the parade; often those who are there but not avalaible (their appointments are coming) don't come to the parade, so I ask the housekeeper if I can meet them just for few seconds (Jenifer, Felicia for example) and try to book them later (that can mean months later!)

As you know, there are "appointments" system and "arrangements" (called "escort" in the past) system : see http://www.internationalsexguide.inf...86#post1062086

With the "arrangement" system, the lady wasn't planned on the house's schedule and came (at your hotel or at Blissestrass) just for you : the interest was that, in general, it was very easy to expand the meeting-time (my first meeting with Ella was initially for one hour (as I never met her before) but finally lasted 2h30!

Recently, I read that a forumer could not expand the meeting-time with Aphrodite because she was not avalaible.

This was the only risk, it's why when I asked for an "arrangement" I often added the possibility of extension.

. Etc.

Reference Monrouge, I'm happy you liked the place even though your session with Julia wasn't perfect by the sound of it. Didn't you think that she was just stunningly pretty, or am I giving her greater credit for her looks than is due?

I renew my thanks for your post mentionning Julia.

I will try to meet her again but in a less dark room.

The second point will be to manage better the timing (may be "my" DATY was too efficient (LOL)?)

[Angus Magee]

I had such fun with Charlie, going around for clubs before ending at Artemis that I really look forward for a repeat of some kind.

Having a wingman is essential for any good mongering activities in my experience. And Charlie is one of the best.

AM

[Kimino]

Kimino. Well, at least I am not alone in this flats vs Arts thing. But this will be an expensive chill, and I would be quite surprised if you (of all people) had the will just chill without a thrill.

I also suspect that after a few visits, you will have burned through the flats.

FYI. The all naked Thermal Bath just past Europa Center, then left north on Nuremburger str, left side, with its roof top heated pools, sauna, etc. Would be a far cheaper chill.

They even have a lot of au natural women there, not to mention some gay men. But most (but not all) over 60! That helps the chill factor a lot.

Ciao RB.

There's no "vs" for me. Ahaha.

Just calibrating between the 2 things to find the best value (not economical) for my short trips to Berlin.

I had such fun with Charlie, going around for clubs before ending at Artemis that I really look forward for a repeat of some kind.

I'm also gathering some info on Stuttgart as I really enjoyed Paradise and was wondering if there's other stuff that would justify a trip there.

Yep, it's a lazy Monday with not much to do.

Ciao

[Rocketboy0]

Strange to be heard from me but the more I think about it, the less I'm interested in Artemis. Or better, the more I see artemis as a chillout area after having had the real fun elsewhere.

Kimino

Kimino. Well, at least I am not alone in this flats vs Arts thing. But this will be an expensive chill, and I would be quite surprised if you (of all people) had the will just chill without a thrill.

I also suspect that after a few visits, you will have burned through the flats.

FYI. The all naked Thermal Bath just past Europa Center, then left north on Nuremburger str, left side, with its roof top heated pools, sauna, etc. Would be a far cheaper chill.

They even have a lot of au natural women there, not to mention some gay men. But most (but not all) over 60! That helps the chill factor a lot.

[Angus Magee]

I remember, even though it was 2 years ago, that I also was impressed the two times I went to Tomsen. I think it is quite popular. I have also had to wait there in the past. I suspect that it is something of an 'insider's' place. Quiet and unassuming, but known by the cognoscenti to offer high levels of service.

I found Tomsen to be a strange little bordello. You are right, if you can find the right girl there the price is hard to beat. But not every girl gets good reviews (Nataly's reviews are consistently good) and those that don't seem to be pretty bad. The other difficulty with this place is that I suspect not all the girls are present. That is some girl have worked there some months back yet still they remain on the web page. Hey, even Mon Rouge used to do this little trick consistently. It is, I guess, a good way to get punters in the door even if a little dishonest.

The other difficulty I personally have with Tomsen is the rooms are so damn small. This may not be important to some, how much room does one really need after all, but these rooms are tiny. Most consist of a smal area with a chair and sink and then a sort of cubby hole in which to do the deed. They are so small that if I were to stand on the bed I would hit my head on the ceiling. Over all I have always felt cramped and constricted in these rooms. Contrast this to Royal where you could fit a whole football team into most rooms. But then you are paying a whole lot less chez Tomsen.

AM

[Angus Magee]

I tryed sending an email to MR some days before leaving for Berlin but never got an answer.

Regarding the appointments thing, on my next visit I'll try to fix an appointment with Ella, a girl currently working at Odette (thanks Angus for the info) , try to fix one with Julia at MR (if she is still there when I'll be in Berlin) and for the rest I'll probably just drop in at Royal. If I'm really in a programmatic mood, might check out VK and KD.

My experience is that I almost always get better service in an apartment if I call ahead and make a booking. My theory about this is that the girls feel a bit flattered when you book them like that. Maybe this is not a totally conscious thing for them but never the less I find it works in my favor. Picking a girl out of the parade always has more of a "meat market" feel to it and is thus does not have quite the same impact on the girl's ego. The same is true in Artemis really. If you can communicate to the girl, with out saying it, that out of all the girls, she is the one that you want, this will almost always get her juices going a little bit more.

As for email bookings-generally I would forget about it. I do not really think many bordellos pay much attention to email bookings. I can imagine that for them it is not the most reliable way of setting up appointments. Best is to call ahead an hour or two before you want to go in and then show up on time, calling ahead if you are running late.

AM

[Kimino]

I tryed sending an email to MR some days before leaving for Berlin but never got an answer.

Regarding the appointments thing, on my next visit I'll try to fix an appointment with Ella, a girl currently working at Odette (thanks Angus for the info) , try to fix one with Julia at MR (if she is still there when I'll be in Berlin) and for the rest I'll probably just drop in at Royal. If I'm really in a programmatic mood, might check out VK and KD.

Strange to be heard from me but the more I think about it, the less I'm interested in Artemis. Or better, the more I see artemis as a chillout area after having had the real fun elsewhere.

Things change.

Ciao.

Kimino

[Charlie 123]

Bobo.

Thanks for your extensive report on the ladies of KLD. All the ones you saw seem fabulous on the website. None of them were present when Kimino and I turned up unfortunately. Felicia looks a 'must-do' for me. Just the sort of figure that I like. I have only really had one session at KLD, with Clarissa, but I get a real good feel about the place. Even though Kimino and I blew out on the day, I'm sure that we were just unlucky with the line-up at the time and I will certainly return. On balance, would you advise booking in advance or turning up on spec?

As regards my checking my bankroll in the street, I have to tell you that I am totally unworried about getting robbed in Berlin. I would never hand over even 10 euros to a robber in the street unless he showed me a gun, and Berlin ain't the Bronx.

Reference Monrouge, I'm happy you liked the place even though your session with Julia wasn't perfect by the sound of it. Didn't you think that she was just stunningly pretty, or am I giving her greater credit for her looks than is due?

I remember, even though it was 2 years ago, that I also was impressed the two times I went to Tomsen. I think it is quite popular. I have also had to wait there in the past. I suspect that it is something of an 'insider's' place. Quiet and unassuming, but known by the cognoscenti to offer high levels of service.

Best.........

Charlie

[Bobo.fr]

Half of the experienece for me is just dropping by and waiting for the line up. I have always had a very decent line up of 6-8 girls at KD and never left because of a lack of talent. Of course I do my homework and recearch the pictures on the site closely and adding a few names to my to-do-list in my head. But when I face the lineup the pictures fade away and its all about the look and vibe from the girls at that moment.

Even though I had some great sessions with girls that are still working at KD I also have a fever for new adventures with new girls so I think I'll rarely, probably never, will make an appointment until that fever is gone.

Nice girls at KD, so it really looks that making appointments is compulsory there.

Just dropping in didn't work for us.

Well, some ladies only work with appointments ("nur termine") as Ella and the second parameter is how long do we stay in Berlin (my last stay was the longest (around 9 days) and once I was there just for around 60 hours).

During my last stay, the new lady Penny was probably always "fully booked".

By the way, I remember that in KD, a redheaded lady (Karina) started and stopped working between my two consecutive trips to Berlin, so I could not meet her : if I was a Berliner resident, I would have a chance to meet her.

[Bobby Cph]

Half of the experienece for me is just dropping by and waiting for the line up. I have always had a very decent line up of 6-8 girls at KD and never left because of a lack of talent. Of course I do my homework and recearch the pictures on the site closely and adding a few names to my to-do-list in my head. But when I face the lineup the pictures fade away and its all about the look and vibe from the girls at that moment.

Even though I had some great sessions with girls that are still working at KD I also have a fever for new adventures with new girls so I think I'll rarely, probably never, will make an appointment until that fever is gone.

Nice girls at KD, so it really looks that making appointments is compulsory there.

Just dropping in didn't work for us.

[Bobo.fr]

Hi,

http://www.monrouge.com/models/details/Julia.html

Heartbreakingly beautiful girl, just as fabulous in reality as in her pics. Ex-model, comes from Bayern but in Berlin for the summer whilst doing her studies. Says she's 22 why. O, could easily be true.

Very pleasant and educated girl, friendly, speaks perfect English, easy and relaxed attitude, sexy and skilled in the bedroom. The perfect GF in fact!

Available by appointment only. Base price was 150E for the hour, extras such as kissing and BBBJ made the total up to 190E, so of course I gave her 200. Expensive, but worth it.

Lovely soft kissing, light DFK, prolonged DATY, lovely soft BJ.

Super girl, highly recommended.

Charlie

1) Thanks to Charlie for your post about Julia.

2) When I saw her webpages, I decided to try my best to meet her during my trip in Berlin.

I sent an email (on August 25th) to MonRouge (MR) including Kimino's question (could the meeting take place in MR's rooms?)

On August 28th, I got the following answer (that can be useful for other forumers) :

"In the Daytime you pay for 60 minutes 150- and for 30 min 80-

In the night time for 60 minutes 160- for 30 minutes 100-

This is Includet normal saver sex, massage, Strip and Kisses. For any other extras you have to talk to the Girls."

So no answer about Kimino's question but Kimino and me had an answer from Charlie himself since.

I sent another email but didn't get any answer : I would see at the place when I was in Berlin.

3) Friday Sept 2nd

As I could not have a long meeting in the morning with Kamilla Dee's Felicia ( see http://www.internationalsexguide.inf...=1#post1195968 ), I went to MR (bus 101 directly from KD to MR).

I realized that the no-discrete club I saw was BelAmi, not MonRouge (but I wonder if in the past it was rather MonRouge than BelAmi).

Later, I put a post here (in ISG forum) to correct my mistake : http://www.internationalsexguide.inf...=1#post1193897

I rang and came into MR (1rst floor) : see Angus' video at http://www.angusmagee.com/?p=552 .

A young lady led me thru a living room where I saw two men (I think they were probably MR's personal rather than customers) to a room in the right side.

She told me that only Sybel was avalaible.
I told her that I would like to meet Julia. She tried to call her (vainly) for an appointment.

Sybel was an attractive lady (face and figure) : http://www.monrouge.com/models/details/Sybel.html

Apparently, MR's norm is that Frenchkisses are proposed as extras : 10 Euros.

In general, paid kisses are very disppointing but Sybel's kisses were very deep and passionated !

The meeting was very hot!

When I left MR, the housekeeper told me that she failed in calling Julia. I gave her my Mobile number and she promised me that she would let me know.

4) Saturday Sept 3rd

I realized that a SMS was sent to me before 9 AM to propose me a meeting with Julia for around 18:00.

I confirmed this appointment.

Around 18:00 , I met Julia in a large but unfortunately dark (that prevented me from "watching intensively" the Beauty) room next to the living room.

Julia's Frenchkisses (extras) were less deep than Sybel's. Nice meeting but we didn't manage very well the sex "part" of the meeting that was finished around the first 30 minutes : we spent the following 30 minutes mostly in chatting. I will try to manage better the meeting if ever I can meet her a next time.

5) Summary
Very positive experiences !!

[Bobo.fr]

Yes!

I was the one with the t-shirt, Charlie the other one.

Etc.

Kimino

Well, Charlie, it's not very discrete to check your wallet (your banknotes?) in the street like that! (LOL)