Berlin

[Ameribi]

Well friends, here's a prime example of how hit or miss this city can be, and the many pitfalls. Tonight pretty much sucked all around.

It started with a visit to Salon Pankow. I must've really got lucky before with my little former heroin addict, Ginger. The first visit this evening, around 7:30 pm, there were five girls, all chubbies, rotting teeth and so forth. Not a single one even close to my liking. The lady of the house, who was quite beautiful and spoke excellent English, said there would be more girls around 10. So I thanked them and left. I then went down to Europa Salon (sometimes just EuropaSalon). The prices looked reasonable online as did the women. When I arrived there were only two, Vera and Milla. Vera is a leggy blonde beauty, Milla. Could use some work. I chose Vera. She then quoted me a price of €50 for 20 minutes. I was interested in just a quicky and gone, but something just didn't feel right about that situation. Changing a price on me sends up alarm bells, and I can't quite say why. Even when I challenged her on the price she pulled the sorry I don't know bullshit. So I followed my instinct and left. Looking back on it, I should've taken the offer.

By now it was nearing 10:30 pm so I went back up to Salon Pankow. Arriving about 11:15 pm I spent a good 20 minutes just waiting for the girls to organize themselves. Sadly there were only the same from before, plus one leggy mostly attractive thing named Kiera. I didn't see her on the website, and was eager to jump in the sack for the full hour plus many extras. However her English was very poor and she did not feel comfortable with not being able to communicate. This frustrated me, and forgive me for venting here, but it's not conversation I'm interested in. It's a two-way street I know, treat with respect, but gosh guys I really wanted to get laid.

So I left dejected, having tried twice and not finding anything. It was now close to midnight. My choices at this point are the overpriced 24 hour places sprinkled around town, where I had no experience or reference, or subject myself to one of the flat rates. After reading earlier about the flat rates being crowded on Saturday's I skipped, not wanting to see 40 others just like me. By now I'm willing to take whatever decent fap I can get. So I went down to Hackscher Market where I knew the street ladies were. I'd never gone back with a street walker, and I now see with good reason why I shouldn't. It was pouring down rain, she was beautiful, she had a big umbrella. She wanted €80 for what sounded like suck and fuck. However, let this be a lesson to you newer folks, always clarify everything BEFORE hand (job) etc. We walk backed to her apartment at 36 Oranienburger Strase. Red interior apartment floor. Her name is Lena, very beautiful, very good English. I felt like I'd hit the jackpot.

We get back and that's when she drops it on me. The €80 is only for suck, hand job, and massage. Fucking is €300 Euros and up. Holy mother of God. Give me my Polish farm girls, my Asian massage MILFS, and my recovering heroin addicts. Lena was nice but she wasn't €300 nice. Especially not with those fake tits. However by this time I'm a sad sack of shit, wet from the rain, and tired. So I gave in at €140 for hand job, blow job, and massage, with mutual touching. Nice body, interesting tits, good face and personality, but I got ripped off big time. She refused to let me watch her blow me, and by God I think she was faking it. I wasn't sure what to do in this situation, and now wanting to seem like an asshole, I just laid back and took what I could get. I made her work that hand job though for every minute. Thirty minutes were up, so I stepped into the little bathroom to pull off the rubber. Came out and she's getting dressed. When I got to the street we said our goodbyes and I walked away. That's when I realized I'd been robbed. She snatched some cash out of a pocket of my pants that I thought was obscure / safe enough. Not so.

I'm still pretty new at this, I really screwed up tonight, but this was a good learning opportunity. I'm happy to embarrass my sad sappy story with you all if it will help others. If you're going to a discount brothel, I cannot stress this enough: CALL ahead of time. Find out who is there and look them up. Don't trust a street walker, not one single bit. I'd be interested to hear what others have to say about the Europa Salon thing, was I right to follow my instinct?

Stay safe out there and choose wisely. I fucked up and deserved it, but I hope others can learn.

Cheers

[R The Man]

Thank you for giving an honest review as I was just there in July and would agree 100% with your review! I would add that the girls hang out in the main bar area because they look haggard and don't want clients to notice!! I would also add many large behinds with cellulite and stretch marks! Not worth a 80 dollar door charge you can get better girls at a Bar Wellness spot.

I agree! I am North American, but enjoy FKKs when I travel to Frankfurt. But my experiences at Artemis have never met expectations compared to, say, FKK Oase. It's probably different for regulars, but I've never had a great GFE experience at Artemis. Lately I've had much better experiences at Liberty or KD, than at Artemis. So, may bypass the FKK when I am in Berlin next month.

Are.

[Fawn The Guyver]

Late last night I also went to Longma 2 Thai Massage. Honestly was there just for a massage, and they were all I could find on the cheap that late at night. I knocked and was told to come back in 40 minutes. In pain I came back 40 later and was let in by an older Asian woman. All they offered was a 45 Thai massage with oil, so I agreed. After twenty minutes of knees and elbows, she left for 3-4 minutes, came back and washed me with hot water. Then I flipped over and she jerked me off. Anything more the that would be 80 and that is just outrageous, especially since they were, as one fellow said of them here, "middle aged MILFs. " Worth 40? Yes. I needed a massage and 20 mins with a hand job is what I'd spend, sadly, in America so why not.

Why you not post this info in the Thai Massage threat?

http://www.internationalsexguide.inf...Massage-Berlin

[Ameribi]

Ameribi: do you remember the price structure at Salon Pankow? I could not find any information on their website.

Price is cheap. I paid € 45 for 45 minutes. I think an hour was only € 60. Cheap. The girls are actually not that bad looking. I may go again tonight or tomorrow.

[Kimino]

Just to give you an idea of the distance, it's about 28 Km south from Artemis and will take 20 minutes in your limo, and 30+min by public transportation.

Thanks Nille. Let's PM when we go visit, if it happens in the same dates we might go together, and share the Limo LOL.

Cheers.

Kimino.

[Ibrahimovic]

Ameribi: do you remember the price structure at Salon Pankow? I could not find any information on their website.

[Ameribi]

Hello friends,

I had a visit with Georgiana at Brothel Karlsruher, yesterday. Her photos are an excellent example in air brushing, but I'll get to her in a moment. Finding the place was rather difficult. The website said to go to 7 A Karlsruher, enter the courtyard, go left, and find the door with the buzzer that says studio. Unfortunately this door was open and covered by a curtain, and the door blocked the buzzer, so it was not clear this was the place. Furthermore, there was an old woman with a walker who wouldn't leave me alone. She kept asking who I was looking for, why I was there, etc. I think she knew and objected to our motives. Two other guys came up also apparently looking, unable to find like me, and she wouldn't leave any of us alone. They threw up their hands and walked away, I persisted. In hindsight, I should have mustered up all 27 years of myself just told her I was there to bang hookers, but I digress.

Eventually I called, they clarified in broken English, and thus I entered. Very little English spoken here. I chose Georgiana from the website, but also of the 8 ladies who were brought in to introduce themselves to me, she was really the only one that was on the slender, attractive side. I like small breasts, and she was a size or three less than the others.

Georgiana spoke precious little English which made it awkward, but I figured why not go for the hour, full French blowjob with sex, and see where it goes. She has a noticeable dark spot on her cheek, perhaps a mole removable gone awry in her home of Romania, that was airbrushed out of most of her photos. She has shapely be's but they're very firm. I looked and felt but couldn't find a scar. I think they may have been faked. Alas. She is cuddly and touchy, did her best to be affable, but her skills are less than great, and conversation strained. We also had problems with the bed. Two narrow mattresses with a gap between. Uncomfortable. Second, people would not stop knocking on the god damn mother fucking door!! She kept having to yell out "Busy!" Those knocks, plus the bed, really killed the mood.

Total damage was €85. More like a €30 value. No-tits, emaciated Ginger at Salon Pankow was better than this!

You can see more of Georgiana here: http://www.erotik-berlin.com/girl/Georgiana.html.

Late last night I also went to Longma 2 Thai Massage. Honestly was there just for a massage, and they were all I could find on the cheap that late at night. I knocked and was told to come back in 40 minutes. In pain I came back 40 later and was let in by an older Asian woman. All they offered was a 45€ Thai massage with oil, so I agreed. After twenty minutes of knees and elbows, she left for 3-4 minutes, came back and washed me with hot water. Then I flipped over and she jerked me off. Anything more the that would be €80 and that is just outrageous, especially since they were, as one fellow said of them here, "middle aged MILFs. " Worth €40? Yes. I needed a massage and 20 mins with a hand job is what I'd spend, sadly, in America so why not.

[Nille Copenhagen]

Me too probably. Unfortunately both my jets are down for scheduled maintainance in October so I might be forced to rent a Limo.

But, just in case there's no Limos available, what kind of project is it to reach the place from Artemis through public transport?

Just to have a rough idea. I don't have a clue of the distances.

Kimino.

Kimino,

It a bit long distance for you to come in a limo, buy if you come could I get a lift from the runway to the Club (just a few hundreds meters) LOL.

Just to give you an idea of the distance, it's about 28 Km south from Artemis and will take 20 minutes in your limo, and 30+min by public transportation.

[Nille Copenhagen]

Nille- that is exactly why I mentioned it- a huge help to you horny DKs. In fact you can probably get there more quickly than me, from where I am in Berlin. Just check that the runway is long enough, and that you can land with radar because that area gets very foggy in the cold season.

I have my doubts about this place, and / or that it can sustain itself, even though Potsdam is a posh suburb. And eventually the luxury sister to Artemis (across the road) will get going, possibly next year and that will further complicate things. Will be a challenge to attract lovelies out there, but who knows. If the price is right.

We await your report.

October weather should be fine, my pilot is used to the foggy weather here so fog and snow is not an issue, LOL.

Well in the future when Brandenburg Airport opens and Tegel will be close, Artemis might have a less attractive location.

BTW is the ownership of Grand Plaza associated with any other clubs we know of?

[Bobo.fr]

KD was my first stop. This located in a residential neighbourhood and the fact the fact they have a different name on the door bell for some reason appealed to me.

More nervous than in years I rang the bell, got buzzed in. Knocked on apt and got let in by the hausfrau. Asked if she spoke english which she did. Got shown into a small room where she explained how things works which I already sort of knew from research here.

Quickly got introduced to only 4 girls (1 pm). The last one, Natalie introduced herself all smiles and with energy so picked her ...

http://www.internationalsexguide.inf...=1#post1616786

[Bobo.fr]

Royal. Jackie.

Royal. Hana (sp?)

Royal. Josephine (sp?)

http://www.internationalsexguide.inf...=1#post1616789

[Bobo.fr]

Liberty was a a bit rougher than Royal or KD but also cheaper. There were 6 girls there at the time, looks-wise slightly worse then Royal at least (based on one visit though so YMMV). Choose Ina which was a cute, 20-25 y and Russian. Problematic since she spoke no English. Considering that it was pretty decent. Price for 30 min w BBBJ was 80.

http://www.internationalsexguide.inf...=1#post1616791

[Kimino]

Well mon frere, from Bhf Zoo on the Regional Bahn, it is a snappy 18 to 24 minutes to Potsdam Hbf. And you get to wave to everyone at the Arts pool. From Westkreuz (you may have heard of this stop) it is 35-45 min via the S-Bahn. Then probably a 15 min cab ride. If you are really desperate for entertainment, you know the bvg. De and bahn. De websites. Getting back in the wee wee hours will be an issue, doable but not so frequent trains, obviously. A jet, and limo would be helpful. The point being, all the new thrills start with a 20 plus total Euro travel penalty, and at least 45 min more, each way, door to (w) hore. Taxi I dunno at least 50 each way. Renting a car would be the way, given all, and even with petrol, that might be about 30 Eur which could be split amongst some brothers.

Moi. I am a life long member of the Church of the Immaculate Inertia and have a doctorate from the "If it ain't broke don't fix it" University. The Grand will need to be super grand to pry me beyond the Berlin border.

Ahaha. Thanks RB for the info, great!

Kimino.

[Rocketboy0]

Me too probably. Unfortunately both my jets are down for scheduled maintainance in October so I might be forced to rent a Limo. But, just in case there's no Limos available, what kind of project is it to reach the place from Artemis through public transport? Kimino.

Well mon frere, from Bhf Zoo on the Regional Bahn, it is a snappy 18 to 24 minutes to Potsdam Hbf. And you get to wave to everyone at the Arts pool. From Westkreuz (you may have heard of this stop) it is 35-45 min via the S-Bahn. Then probably a 15 min cab ride. If you are really desperate for entertainment, you know the bvg. De and bahn. De websites. Getting back in the wee wee hours will be an issue, doable but not so frequent trains, obviously. A jet, and limo would be helpful. The point being, all the new thrills start with a 20 plus total Euro travel penalty, and at least 45 min more, each way, door to (w) hore. Taxi I dunno at least 50 each way. Renting a car would be the way, given all, and even with petrol, that might be about 30 Eur which could be split amongst some brothers.

Moi. I am a life long member of the Church of the Immaculate Inertia and have a doctorate from the "If it ain't broke don't fix it" University. The Grand will need to be super grand to pry me beyond the Berlin border.

[Rocketboy0]

Thanks Rocketboy,I'll check it out in Oct. I'll will of cause come with my private jet.

Nille- that is exactly why I mentioned it- a huge help to you horny DKs. In fact you can probably get there more quickly than me, from where I am in Berlin. Just check that the runway is long enough, and that you can land with radar because that area gets very foggy in the cold season.

I have my doubts about this place, and / or that it can sustain itself, even though Potsdam is a posh suburb. And eventually the luxury sister to Artemis (across the road) will get going, possibly next year and that will further complicate things. Will be a challenge to attract lovelies out there, but who knows. If the price is right.

We await your report.