Thai Women - Opinions & Advice

[SubCmdr]

Use Thai women for sex and then forget it.

Here we go again. Another (compound profanity redacted) that came to Thailand and got got.

Why does this continually happen?

Because western men (especially from podunk countries forget to leave their values in the airport before they leave. I have said this more than once, western values do not serve your well in Thailand. In fact, they do not serve you well in any country. If you are going to Expat in a place then you have to learn how the locals do and think about things. Your ideas of the way something should be done or how to think about it don't mean jack.

All of them generally the pretty ones has a Thai bf or husband whom they deliver your money to.

Let's start with everyone who makes a consumer purchase. Do you generally care who your money gets delivered to? The answer is: No. Unless you have a problem with a certain vendor or provider.

Example

I wont buy Sony products because I had a bad experience with a television built by them. If you dont care when you are making a consumer product purchase why do you care when you are making a consumer service purchase?].

Some knew a Thai girls for years before they found out she cheats on him. Forget all about a western relationship with her. The Thai men take the pretty ones when they are very young and then decide on them and own them and control them hard. The Thai girls work hard. And go home with the money to the man who drink, fuck other girls even she know it. Thats is in Thailand.

Yes, and who gives a fuck?

The OP gets and simultaneously he does not. Individuals should leave their western values at the airport they depart from. So by the time they arrive they can indeed understand that the country they are visiting is called THAI-Land!

I guess you haven't really become very Asian then. One of the things I've learned living in asia, which I must admit is fantastic, is the ability to compartmentalize. Asian men and Asian women compartmentalize their lives. For many men and women they have a spouse they dearly love, would not leave, and will take care of, however they may have someone or many someone's that they screw. The two are completely mutually exclusive. For many Asian folks there is a don't ask don't tell policy. One thing we westerners never understand is that it is quite often the space you give each other in a relationship that makes it last. For many here that are married and still screw others, the extracurricular activities amount to nothing more than riding a roller coaster. I really believe we westerners have the wrong expectation of relationships.

I have not read a better post explaining how western values have no place in Thailand.

There is very dark side in Thailand and it can be very evil.

Once again another judgement based on western values.

Thai men beat their women often. It is accepted. They scream after them and she obey . But if you raise your voice to your Thai girl. Oh my god. She will turn of and lose temper. And believe me they have temper.

Why are you raising your voice to to a Thai person in the first place (especially your Thai Girls)? It sounds to me like the OP has emotional maturity issues.

Doesn't the OP realize that causes them to lose face? I have never had to raise my voice to any Thai person the entire time I have been posted up here (especially my Thai Girls). Everything I have ever had to deal with has been resolved using eye contact and a low but firm no, followed by departure from the scene. That's why you will never see a video of a security person knocking me on my ass like you see done to so many farangs (of a certain color) that get out of pocket.

Why us?

That is a good question.

When Japanese and Korean guys are present, the rest of us have problems competing with them too.

Is this a good answer?

Cause they are not afraid of us Europeans or us or so called farangs- they don't respect us.

The OP needs to speak for himself. Men who cannot hold frame. Men who's word means nothing. Men who do not have an attitude of abundance. Those are the men who do not get any respect. I have NEVER had a problem with Thai Girls not respecting me the entire time I've been posted up here. Treating someone like a human being shouldn't be a problem unless you are sociopathic.

It is the money they want and only the money.

I disagree with this completely. The only way you could think this is because that is all you give. If you treat another human being with respect. They will respect you even if is just a business transaction. Have you ever heard the phrase: It was a pleasure doing business with you? I've run a business. I've made business deals. I did not say that to everyone. Some of my clients and people I dealt with were true mother fuckers. But I did business with them anyway because I needed the money. How is that any different from any business dealings with anyone in the world?

Anything else with love and bla bla forget it for your own safety.

Love is a powerful thing. Do we control who we love? Or do we control our actions with who we love?

Dont fall in love with any hookers there. They are full of shit. But charming yes and they play their role good. Together with their Thai man or bf . To rip you off as much as possible and as long time as possible.

I feel sorry for the OP that he has such bad attitude about prostitutes in Thailand.

Picture this scenario in Thailand: There is a non-descript building and venue located across the soi from a popular temple called Noi's Place. As you enter the door of Noi's Place you are asked for a 100 baht entrance fee. Then you are faced with a circular conveyor belt carrying twelve 18 year old ladies, laying naked and spread-eagle on that conveyor belt for your assessment of them. A manager approaches and answers any questions you might have about the sexual skills and specializes of each. No other entertainment, food or drinks are on sale in the place. You choose one young lady and, without exchanging a word, the two of you retreat to a room upstairs at Noi's Place, pay an additional 200 baht for the use of the room and after you have whatever style and amount of sex you and she agree to engage in you give your lady 2000 baht and leave Noi's Place a sexually satisfied and happy man.

Here's the reality; the Thai people in that neighborhood don't care what Noi and her ladies are doing or what her customers are doing on a moral point. From monks to the police, moms, dads, grandmothers, grandfathers, aunts, uncles, siblings, cousins, respected community leaders and other business owners, nobody gives a damn what is happening at Noi's Place or the consenting adults involved, their morals, the morals of anyone else in the neighborhood or Kingdom.

How do I know that? Aside from my decades of up close and personal contact with Thai people, being married to a Thai lady, years of engaging with her close family members who are well-educated, English-fluent, successful business owners with even uniformed police officers among them

Los = land of scams

Sorry to hear that you feel that way about Thailand. My experiences do not align at all with the OP's.

If you having girl problems I feel bad for your son, I got 99 problems and a ***** ain't one. - Jay Z

[LecheAlot]

Ok. My advise.

Use Thai women for sex and then forget it. All of them generally the pretty ones has a Thai bf or husband whom they deliver your money to. Some knew a Thai girls for years before they found out she cheats on him. Forget all about a western relationship with her.

The Thai men take the pretty ones when they are very young and then decide on them and own them and control them hard.

The Thai girls work hard. And go home with the money to the man who drink, fuck other girls even she know it .That's is in Thailand.

There is very dark side in Thailand and it can be very evil.

Thai men beat their women often. It is accepted. They scream after them and she obey . But if you raise your voice to your Thai girl. Oh my god. She will turn of and lose temper. And believe me they have temper.

Why us? Cause they are not afraid of us Europeans or us or so called farangs- they don't respect us.

It is the money they want and only the money.

Anything else with love and bla bla forget it for your own safety.

Don't fall in love with any hookers there. They are full of shit. But charming yes and they play their role good. Together with their Thai man or bf . To rip you off as much as possible and as long time as possible.

Los = land of scams.

I agree with all of that, from my own experience and from listening to others for decades.

I recently heard about a mutual friend, who's just built a house for 'his girl' somewhere off in the sticks.

I guessed, because I've heard the same story a million times, that he probably met her in Pattaya, she comes from Isaan, her parent's sent her to get some money and.

Maybe find a husband, he thinks she loves him, so he's sharing his pension with her and the family and he will never own the house and at some point, he'll lose it all.

He might work it out one day. Might not. He's a fat, beer drinking slob so maybe not.

You can buy the fantasy for a while, but that's all it is.

[Mr Enternational]

Done that. They get very vague in answering, often leaving it as "up to you".

So be very vague when taking care of them. I have gotten the same results as you when I have asked. Last thing a chick wants to tell me about something is up to you.

[Steve Naive]

Wouldn't it be much easier to ask her that so that you will have a for sure answer?

Done that. They get very vague in answering, often leaving it as "up to you".

[Mr Enternational]

What does it mean when she wants me to take care of her?

Wouldn't it be much easier to ask her that so that you will have a for sure answer?

[Steve Naive]

Oh dear. To be naive like this one again. Life wold be so much easier in Thailand.

Since you seem to have more experience, care to share some insight?

[Member #4591]

I have been dating ladies I meet online and having fun. Sometimes she says she will take care of me. Occasionally, she says she hopes I will take care of her. I am talking about "regular" ladies, not hookers or massage parlour ladies; I know they are all about money (and sometimes more).

What does it mean when she says she wants to take care of me?

What does it mean when she wants me to take care of her?

I know that sometimes the answers are "have sex" and "give money", respectively. But I have been told a woman will "take care of me" and it does not mean sex; it could only mean she will go eat with me and take me around, etc. And while many ladies eventually want SOME money, some do not. When money is requested, sometimes it is for support (they are struggling). Of course, some women are doing it only for money.

I know the answer is: it varies; it depends on the girl. But I would like to hear your opinions and experiences, if you care to share them.

Oh dear. To be naive like this one again. Life wold be so much easier in Thailand.

[Steve Naive]

I have been dating ladies I meet online and having fun. Sometimes she says she will take care of me. Occasionally, she says she hopes I will take care of her. I am talking about "regular" ladies, not hookers or massage parlour ladies; I know they are all about money (and sometimes more).

What does it mean when she says she wants to take care of me?

What does it mean when she wants me to take care of her?

I know that sometimes the answers are "have sex" and "give money", respectively. But I have been told a woman will "take care of me" and it does not mean sex; it could only mean she will go eat with me and take me around, etc. And while many ladies eventually want SOME money, some do not. When money is requested, sometimes it is for support (they are struggling). Of course, some women are doing it only for money.

I know the answer is: it varies; it depends on the girl. But I would like to hear your opinions and experiences, if you care to share them.

[Mr Enternational]

I agree that we shouldn't generalize, but I think that short of actual marriage, Thai girls continue to expect we "take care" of them financially no matter how long it's gone on.

My regular gal who I met in an MP three years ago and to whom I return at least six times a year, including one trip overseas together, confines to expect I leave her with a couple K when we part. She has a loser son upcountry and a house and car, so our time together may be intimate but it isn't for free.

I am going to use some harsh words here, but bullshit. That is only the lady you met. I have been fucking plenty of women over time that have not so much as asked me to buy them an ice cream cone.

Under what pretenses did you meet this chick? Did you go out on a normal date with her? Did you fuck her then offer her money? Did she tell you before, during, or after that you need to give her money? From your post it was not clear. You said she expects that you leave her a couple of K. How did this expectation come about? Were those the words that came out of her mouth, or is that something you started and are afraid to stop?

I have always said, however you meet a woman then that is how you continue. I have met women that I have not had to give money to and I will not start now. I have met other women that I have had to give money to and I will not stop now. You know what you have from the beginning.

[Chacal60]

I agree that we shouldn't generalize, but I think that short of actual marriage, Thai girls continue to expect we "take care" of them financially no matter how long it's gone on.

My regular gal who I met in an MP three years ago and to whom I return at least six times a year, including one trip overseas together, confines to expect I leave her with a couple K when we part. She has a loser son upcountry and a house and car, so our time together may be intimate but it isn't for free.

Whether she has other guys, I never ask, because she's always available and the time together always of high quality. Respect them, even love them, but continue to take care of them as well. I find it perfectly fair.

I think you are reading too many internet postings. Such generalizations are never correct. I don't deny that scams do exist (as in any country in the world) and that hookers indeed are "in it for the money" (again, as everywhere else in the world), but to paint all Thai women with that same brush is pretty rough. Either you have had yourself a bad affair in Thailand (and are thus speaking from purely anecdotal evidence) or you don't know what you are talking about.

[FalangForLife]

Does anybody out there has successfully married a bar girl or massage girl, settled in the country, and started a business?

Alternatively, if you did not yourself achieve this, do you know somebody who did?

[Oliver Kitsoff]

Apologies is this isn't placed in a suitable forum (looked and felt his was one was closest).

Do you have certain triggers which are the deciding factor for you 'not' to return to a BG / Massage Girl?

For me,. "When you Cum?" is the one that seals their fate, along with closing the eyes (I know that more than a few Women love to go 'inside' during the experience, but other times this just seems like she's getting off but picturing somebody else doing it LOL). Not only does the first utterance brutally highlight to me the customer that she's merely servicing cock in a pit stop (which is of course the case and no illusions here when not visiting, but I don't really want to be reminded of that in such a way during the deed thank you very much). It also signals to me that she isn't enjoying it ("when will this be over"?). I rarely every get both of these, but on occasion it does happen and to me game over. Wham, Bam, thank you but you won't be getting my custom again, Darling.

I live here (retired now) and have heard this one, and a few other direct statements too! Even in polite society, in Thailand it is not seen as rude to point out anyone is fat (poumpooy) or for that matter, tall, thin, 'handsum' (it is not always a lie!) drunk (mau) loony (ting-tong) stupid (knorr) or worse. Usually, the women will announce these assessments loudly, actually shouting across the soi, it is part of everyday banter.

So, the moral of the story is be 'direct' back, let them know what your expectations are upfront, and (after the deed, if necessary) that their 'girls aloud' schtick is best kept out of the parlour. It may not help you recover the current situation to your advantage, but if enough mongers do it, everybody wins.

A lot of mongers are also afraid to ask for what they want here, you are likely to get 'it' if you ask. I have created a small thread here with monger 'sexy-time' words in thai anyone can use, Feel free to locate it, and comment there to keep it current, and therefore useful for all.

Trust me, these phrases can, and do, get your service improved, and your prices lowered, ESPECIALLY if you learn to count very basically in Thai, you can save thousands.
Last time I went to a basic oil massage joint, I tried my rudimentary beginner Thai out as much as possible, and near the end of the JO, when i was even by my own admission a little slow to finish, she offered (I swear) a prostrate massage "you wann finger you ass?"
Well. There can be few things more sexually intense than a cute spinner beating you off while also rythmically stroking your internal pleasure center and whispering urgent little breathless moans of 'cum, baby' which amounts to the same thing the OP commented about -but for all the right reasons!
Oh, and the cost of the HJ got her down from the usual Soi 4 B1000 (just for the happy ending!) to 'Haa Loi' Baht (500 and no tip, that was the tip! Id already paid for the hour 'oil massage' upfront, remember?) This is not 'boasting' it is what anyone can do if they can be arsed to learn a little Thai, not be too stinky, don't rush into groping her during the 'legit' massage -few will obey this rule, and you will regret it. Give respect, and you'll be amply rewarded in most cases, of course, if you do come across a bad attitude, well it happens, and I'm not immune either (I'm just sharing how i get the p4p dynamic to work best for me).
Still most 'two-week millionaires' won't care, or be too lazy to even try 'bar-room' thai, but you can't say you were not a little more enlightened in the ways of the ladies of the east after this post. .

Just a quick PS: I know the OP was not asking for 'advice' but asking if there were 'NO-triggers' with certain ladies. The thing is, try to discover these negative traits BEFORE you seal the deal. "Match up in haste, regret at leisure" I have done it too... I try, if possible, to have a chit-chat out the front of house before settling on a girl. beware too much charm, normally, they are all front and no delivery... it is difficult, look for genuine friendliness... i once chose a potential freelancer just because she actually shook my hand and said 'hello xxx' when i introduced myself, and she was outstanding GFE for weeks!
Another time some cute little spinner dropped 'you take good care of me' into the conversation.... Nope, honey, not in this lifetime... she was talking of course, about financial care, not respect, or being respectful (to me). So you see, these are the clues... if she is in any way dismissive, or too smooth, then, quiet your cock down, and give her a miss. But, be likeable, go out of your way to charm her, never forget they are women first, and will respond as a woman does when you compliment her dress, earrings, hair (not looks, or body parts, she hears that a million times, its meaningless). Be emotionally generous and you will not need to spend as much money to get what you want, and will likely get more than the average punter in return, its just human nature... of course, always try to find and choose a giver rather than a taker, as mentioned above. happy horing!

[Wolvenvacht]

Ok. My advise.

Use Thai women for sex and then forget it. All of them generally the pretty ones has a Thai bf or husband whom they deliver your money to. Some knew a Thai girls for years before they found out she cheats on him. Forget all about a western relationship with her.

(snip)

It is the money they want and only the money.

Anything else with love and bla bla forget it for your own safety.

Don't fall in love with any hookers there. They are full of shit. But charming yes and they play their role good. Together with their Thai man or bf . To rip you off as much as possible and as long time as possible.

I think you are reading too many internet postings. Such generalizations are never correct. I don't deny that scams do exist (as in any country in the world) and that hookers indeed are "in it for the money" (again, as everywhere else in the world), but to paint all Thai women with that same brush is pretty rough. Either you have had yourself a bad affair in Thailand (and are thus speaking from purely anecdotal evidence) or you don't know what you are talking about.

[Wolvenvacht]

Went there last month, September. Name Shop is "Massage Club Mitu" you can find on google.

I must say the experience they offered is really an eye opener for me. I can never find this type of service in Singapore. Not sure its the same case for Thailand.

I really enjoy foreplay and the lady gives good foreplay and service. From inside the tub to the bed.

Honesty speaking, the lady reception is very friendly and gaves very good service. I don't even feel like going into a place for sex. After service, the receptionist asked for feedback and ask how I get to know of this place. She even walked me down the stairs and bid goodbye.

I must say the receptionist had very good figure.

Their services seem quite standard for any oilie or soapie massage place in Bangkok.

[Ulfberth]

Ok. My advise.

Use Thai women for sex and then forget it. All of them generally the pretty ones has a Thai bf or husband whom they deliver your money to. Some knew a Thai girls for years before they found out she cheats on him. Forget all about a western relationship with her.

The Thai men take the pretty ones when they are very young and then decide on them and own them and control them hard.

The Thai girls work hard. And go home with the money to the man who drink, fuck other girls even she know it .That's is in Thailand.

There is very dark side in Thailand and it can be very evil.

Thai men beat their women often. It is accepted. They scream after them and she obey . But if you raise your voice to your Thai girl. Oh my god. She will turn of and lose temper. And believe me they have temper.

Why us? Cause they are not afraid of us Europeans or us or so called farangs- they don't respect us.

It is the money they want and only the money.

Anything else with love and bla bla forget it for your own safety.

Don't fall in love with any hookers there. They are full of shit. But charming yes and they play their role good. Together with their Thai man or bf . To rip you off as much as possible and as long time as possible.

Los = land of scams.

I have a question. Probably a bit unusual for here.

Actually I am not only looking for pretty Thai girls and good sex but especially more. Namely a hot girl which I can meet over and over again. I wondered if anybody heard of girls accepting or looking for "sponsorship" in exchange of a "steady affaire" with a bit more privacy. Indeed I would not even say no to have child there and continue sponsoring and regular visits!

Any experiences?

Cheers!

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