Cartagena Reports

[AmorPorFavor]

On Hollywood Beach I have used the Hotel Dann. It is literally on Hollywood Beach and is guest friendly. It runs about 70 to 80 USD per night but is very convenient. In the Walled City I use the El Viajero.

https://hotel-el-viajero-centro.negocio.site The rooms are cheap but clean. It located near the Clock Tower, the Dulce Vida and other pick spots.

Does the Dann charge for extra guests beyond the first one?

[AmorPorFavor]

LOL. Which robbery? They happen all the time all over Colombia. Just look at the news, read ISG, or join one of those Colombia expat facebook groups. A good buddy of mine was left destitute and in the gutter a few years back. They did not get him inside. They got him outside. Your place with security can not help you with that, unless you just plan to stay in and order chicks online.

Since you know everything can you tell us if Cartagena, a world class tourist destination, is safer than Medellin, Bogota or other parts of Columbia? Do you have any buddies who were robbed or assaulted in Cartagena?

[Mr Enternational]

Are you telling me that of the hundreds of girls that are there every night, I wouldn't be able to find a few who would not find it attractive to not have to worry about finding a customer for the next four weeks?

You are approaching with an "If I was them" mindset. I am sure you know that women in the first place do not think like men. So you should know that third world uneducated (except for some of the Venezuelans that may be in the position due to political problems in their country) hookers most definitely do not think like first world educated men.

These chicks, or even chicks in general, do not think about tomorrow or next week. They only think about today. Then one day they wake up old and alone and wonder what the fuck happened. They lived for today without planning for tomorrow. They looked at "the clock tower" as something that would always be there when they needed, not thinking that one day they would no longer be clock tower material. They are not concerned with the four weeks steady work some old ass foreigner is offering, because for now they can just go back to the clock tower tomorrow.

[Tomasb]

I have been going to Thailand for the past several years during the winter months. My last visit was the winter of 2020 at the beginning of Covid. One thing I like about Thailand, and Bangkok in particular, is how safe it is. You can walk down a street, or Soi as they call it there, in the middle of the wee hours and feel totally safe. I have had dozens of encounters with P4 P with not even the slightest feeling of menace or the thought someone may attempt to rob or drug me. It's just not part of their culture. There are always exceptions and urban legends but for the most part, I think it's quite safe. I suppose picking up a LB on the street late at night, being drunk etc. Is not such a great idea but in general there is no comparison to South America in terms of relative safety.

Totally agree with you about the relative trustworthiness of Thais.

As I've already stated, I don't speak Spanish. But then again, I've never got that drunk on a monger trip, that I could not put myself to bed.

Yes there is always a chance you might be robbed down to the chica, and you know someone that happened to. How many people do you know that it hasn't happened to? And what are they going to get? On a good day after I've been to the ATM, maybe $300. By the time I've got home after night out, that might be $150 including the money for the girl. I have an old laptop, my phone, luggage, passport, a 35 year old Seiko watch and Debit card. Robbing me, will not change her way of life. I know you can't factor in the stupidity element, but if the door is opened from the inside, would the girl really think I would not figure out her role in this? But then again, you can never allow for the stupidity of desperation.

[Tomasb]

On Hollywood Beach I have used the Hotel Dann. It is literally on Hollywood Beach and is guest friendly. It runs about 70 to 80 USD per night but is very convenient. In the Walled City I use the El Viajero.

https://hotel-el-viajero-centro.negocio.site The rooms are cheap but clean. It located near the Clock Tower, the Dulce Vida and other pick spots.

I checked out this video yesterday. The room he showed in El Viajero did not have a window though the hallway overlooked a downstairs patio of some sort. The room appeared to be quite tiny. I can't imagine anyone would want to stay there for the whole evening, which would cost $30 USD. The short time rate, according to him, was $10. He did not show the room that has a kitchen and balcony overlooking the street, which has been mentioned here. Other than that, he viewed a couple of place in Bocagrande; one was called Oz but that one was pricey at $50 per night but apparently allowed guests. The rooms were nice but too far from El Centro in my estimation.

[Dublin12]

I do not think chicks will not be satisfied with your offer on paper. What I think is that you will have a difficult time finding someone to accept your offer. There is a different breed out there now. Chicks just want to get the money and be out. They are not trying to stick around for days on end like their predecessors were. These are ADD hookers.

You might be right. But what are the chances of them earning COP 7 million over the next four weeks? I might be misreading the situation, but every time I see a vid of the Clock Tower, I see supply far outstipping demand. From what I have read here, I think I could probably go there most nights and get TLN for 250-300 K. Are you telling me that of the hundreds of girls that are there every night, I wouldn't be able to find a few who would not find it attractive to not have to worry about finding a customer for the next four weeks?

I know the vids don't tell the whole story, but I'd bet that many of the girls seen in these will go home empty handed on many nights.

[Dublin12]

I've played the free game. I didn't like the price I had to pay. I know now that I'the rather pay for her to leave. I thought that's what this forum was mostly about.

It appears to me that there are plenty of posts telling you to watch out for the hidden agenda. "Free" sex is not that difficult to find, but as you imply "free" comes with a price. Often the formula is pretty simple. You tell the girl what she wants to hear, and then having got what you want, you move on. That seems abusive to me. Alternately, where is the dishonesty in a cash relationship?

As for those who want to talk about their "freebies", you've probably got relative youth on your side right now, and good luck to you. But as you get older, opportunities are likely to decline, especially from the 20 somethings. Maybe then, you might start questioning the fact that she might have a hidden agenda.

[Mr Enternational]

Regardless, whether it is 4 x or 9 x, do you think many girls would be dissatisfied with my offer?

I do not think chicks will not be satisfied with your offer on paper. What I think is that you will have a difficult time finding someone to accept your offer. There is a different breed out there now. Chicks just want to get the money and be out. They are not trying to stick around for days on end like their predecessors were. These are ADD hookers.

[TheKid1989]

I think a point being here that you could be prudent and not make the whole 28 day deal all at one time. So that way she cannot be thinking about all that 28 days worth of money if you need to pull out of the deal. Once you make that deal with her, in her mind it is set in stone. I would say something like "it is possible that I might need you for four weeks so I need to know that if I do then you would be available but because I might get called back to work and have to leave I am only going to hire you for a week at a time. If you do good each week and we get along and if I do not get called back to work then we'll do anoher week for the possibility of 4 total weeks" That way if she turns into a psycho or whiny neurotic then you have an out. "I got called back to work".

If on the other hand she turns into crazy girl and you have already made a 28 week deal, in her mind you owe her all that money even if you want out of the deal at day 2. And she may get real crazy and she may not only be more than you want to deal with but she may even call the cops. You think that the cops might be on your side, and they might or they might not,

I'm not sure if you know the story of the (former) United Sates Secret Service agent who got into a disagreement with hooker at the now infamous Hotel Caribe in Cartagena. He was on an advance team for when the president of the USA was going to be going down later for a meeting of the OSA. He and other Secret Service met up with some US DEA (Drug Enforcement Agency) guys who were working in Colombia (I used to spot them in the old La Dolce Vita in Laguito) so these agents were teaching him and some other Secret Service Agents about the "local talent". One Secret Service agent thought he could he could get out of paying this chica but she got the police involved and they were sympathetic to her. Prostitution is a legal profession there so they do not have to hide it and they can ask for police help. .

This is why I do everything thru text so I have proof of the convo and I make sure I say cop or usd.

[GrownMan1]

Why some guys come to a mongering board to "Bragg" about getting free pussy? Then try to encourage other people to follow their lead. I thought it was across the board that we pretty much don't want "free". The only thing I want free is free-dom to tell a chica when to leave when I'm done with her. I'll gladly pay for that.

I would hate to have a "girlfriend" who's giving me " free" sex and bring her around a whole bunch of chicas who are getting paid for doing the same thing. Do you actually think your girl is really content watching her friend walk away with 500 k night? Meanwhile she's quiet and just hoping for your generosity?

I've played the free game. I didn't like the price I had to pay. I know now that I'the rather pay for her to leave. I thought that's what this forum was mostly about.

[SouthernOcean]

Just found this on Youtube posted today: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3ev-nwM6Bo&t=304s.

At 7. 50, the poster mentions his hotel which appears to be girl friendly. Casa Pedro Romero which appears to be in Getsemani. Got to say, that the pics on Bookings.com don't make it look much more attractive than the vid itself, but I thought I should post because there is a paucity of info on such hotels. https://www.booking.com/hotel/co/cas...=total;ucfs=1&#hotelTmpl.

On Hollywood Beach I have used the Hotel Dann. It is literally on Hollywood Beach and is guest friendly. It runs about 70 to 80 USD per night but is very convenient. In the Walled City I use the El Viajero.

https://hotel-el-viajero-centro.negocio.site The rooms are cheap but clean. It located near the Clock Tower, the Dulce Vida and other pick spots.

[Dublin12]

Just found this on Youtube posted today: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3ev-nwM6Bo&t=304s.

At 7. 50, the poster mentions his hotel which appears to be girl friendly. Casa Pedro Romero which appears to be in Getsemani. Got to say, that the pics on Bookings.com don't make it look much more attractive than the vid itself, but I thought I should post because there is a paucity of info on such hotels. https://www.booking.com/hotel/co/cas...=total;ucfs=1&#hotelTmpl.

[Dublin12]

I think a point being here that you could be prudent and not make the whole 28 day deal all at one time. So that way she cannot be thinking about all that 28 days worth of money if you need to pull out of the deal. Once you make that deal with her, in her mind it is set in stone. I would say something like "it is possible that I might need you for four weeks so I need to know that if I do then you would be available but because I might get called back to work and have to leave I am only going to hire you for a week at a time. If you do good each week and we get along and if I do not get called back to work then we'll do anoher week for the possibility of 4 total weeks" That way if she turns into a psycho or whiny neurotic then you have an out. "I got called back to work".

If on the other hand she turns iinto crazy girl and you have already made a 28 week deal, in her mind you owe her all that money even if you want out of the deal at day 2. And she may get real crazy and she may not only be more than you want to deal with but she may even call the cops. You think that the cops might be on your side, and they might or they might not,

I'm not sure if you know the story of the (former) United Sates Secret Service agent who got into a disagreement with hooker at the now infamous Hotel Caribe in Cartagena. He was on an advance team for when the president of the USA was going to be going down later or a meeting of the OSA. He and other Secret Service met up with some US DEA (Drug Enforcement Agency) guys who were working in Colombia (I used to spot them in the old La Dolce Vita in Laguito) so these agents were teaching him and some other Secret Service Agents about the "local talent". One Secret Service agent thought he could he could get out of paying this chica but she got the police involved and they were sympathetic to her. Prostitution is a legal profession there so they do not have to hide it and they can ask for police help.

It may seem unreasonable to you that she could give you a lousy time and expect all the money if you pull out of the deal but you cannot expect "reasonable", in her mind you dangled all this money in front of her and then welshed, so do not dangle more than you are willing to write off if things go south.

A funny thing to me about that incident is that before this happened Colombia Tourism had the slogan "Colombia is Passion" - after this incident was splattered all over he world news, they quickly changed to a different slogan.

Much of what you say makes sense to me. A lot of my plan is clearly based on the reasonableness of others, and I am aware that there is a wide diversity on what some girls consider reasonable.

I am beginning to see a consensus here. I think most consider that it is doable, but that I shouldn't do it but for a variety of reasons. So now it becomes a question of my confidence in myself to handle a variety of scenarios. Hmmm?

[Mojo Bandit]

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As far as diminishing returns are concerned, I'd allow her one off day, but after, she is no longer what I want and she's gone.
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I think a point being here that you could be prudent and not make the whole 28 day deal all at one time. So that way she cannot be thinking about all that 28 days worth of money if you need to pull out of the deal. Once you make that deal with her, in her mind it is set in stone. I would say something like "it is possible that I might need you for four weeks so I need to know that if I do then you would be available but because I might get called back to work and have to leave I am only going to hire you for a week at a time. If you do good each week and we get along and if I do not get called back to work then we'll do anoher week for the possibility of 4 total weeks" That way if she turns into a psycho or whiny neurotic then you have an out. "I got called back to work".

If on the other hand she turns into crazy girl and you have already made a 28 week deal, in her mind you owe her all that money even if you want out of the deal at day 2. And she may get real crazy and she may not only be more than you want to deal with but she may even call the cops. You think that the cops might be on your side, and they might or they might not,

I'm not sure if you know the story of the (former) United Sates Secret Service agent who got into a disagreement with hooker at the now infamous Hotel Caribe in Cartagena. He was on an advance team for when the president of the USA was going to be going down later for a meeting of the OSA. He and other Secret Service met up with some US DEA (Drug Enforcement Agency) guys who were working in Colombia (I used to spot them in the old La Dolce Vita in Laguito) so these agents were teaching him and some other Secret Service Agents about the "local talent". One Secret Service agent thought he could he could get out of paying this chica but she got the police involved and they were sympathetic to her. Prostitution is a legal profession there so they do not have to hide it and they can ask for police help.

It may seem unreasonable to you that she could give you a lousy time and expect all the money if you pull out of the deal but you cannot expect "reasonable", in her mind you dangled all this money in front of her and then welshed, so do not dangle more than you are willing to write off if things go south.

A funny thing about that incident with the secret service is that before this happened Colombia Tourism had commercials with the slogan "Colombia is Passion" - after this incident was splattered all over he world news, they quickly changed to a different slogan.

[Dublin12]

Thailand have a different vibe from Colombia, especially Pattaya.

I find the Thai girls I met more honest and trusting, granted this was pre COVID so I don't know if they are the same now times are harder. I have partied hard in 808 blacked out and woke up in my hotel room with the girl I met in the club. Same with Flexx Club, I don't know how I made it down those steps and back to my hotel room but woke up with a girl next to me. They made sure this chocolate man got to bed safe 555. I would never do that in Colombia unless I was staying somewhere with security. Also how is your Spanish? Thailand was easier as many of the girls I ran into speak English but in Colombia the only ones who I find that can speak some little English are the ones that have normal jobs in the tourist areas. I've only ran into one prepago that spoke little English and it was very basic stuff.

As for being robbed, they won't point you out on the street for a gang to attack you, they will wait until they are in your apartment most likely sleeping then open the door to let their friends in, or drug you and clear out all your stuff. This have not happened to me yet, but I know someone it happened to who like to travel solo, and there are many stories like it. I would put safety first, then sexual needs second.

Totally agree with you about the relative trustworthiness of Thais.

As I've already stated, I don't speak Spanish. But then again, I've never got that drunk on a monger trip, that I could not put myself to bed.

Yes there is always a chance you might be robbed down to the chica, and you know someone that happened to. How many people do you know that it hasn't happened to? And what are they going to get? On a good day after I've been to the ATM, maybe $300. By the time I've got home after night out, that might be $150 including the money for the girl. I have an old laptop, my phone, luggage, passport, a 35 year old Seiko watch and Debit card. Robbing me, will not change her way of life. I know you can't factor in the stupidity element, but if the door is opened from the inside, would the girl really think I would not figure out her role in this? But then again, you can never allow for the stupidity of desperation.