Stupid shit in Medellin

[Osteoknot]

This mf is purrfektly coked up out of his mind. That is why nobody in either thread understands what the fuck he is talking about except himself.

Except that I hate coke.

[Mr Enternational]

Thank you for giving me the opportunity to once again show how full of shit you are, and thanks for making it so easy.

The only opportunity you got was to show everyone that you are on that same shit that your boy Osteo is on. You write shit and yet do not even understand the shit that you wrote.

Why only now speak out about 1 vaccine, when you haven't mentioned any of the other vaccine mandates, some which have been around for 50 years or more?

Because this 1 "vaccine" did not work for you, but all the other ones did.

Let's see if I understand you correctly. You base your decision to be anti-vax (for the Covid vaccines) on my personal experience with Covid?

I did not say anything about being anti-vax. I did not say anything about a decision to be antivax. Your question was:

Why only now speak out about 1 vaccine, when you haven't mentioned any of the other vaccine mandates, some which have been around for 50 years or more?

My answer was:

Because this 1 "vaccine" did not work for you, but all the other ones did.

Any other answer you attribute to me concerning this question came from your own imagination or that shit y'all are sniffing or smoking or however you are ingesting it. He already admitted that he has a problem. I guess he can attribute his erratic behavior to that. Now it is your turn to confess. Unless you just left your glasses at home and you are having a hard time reading English.

Bwah haha, you got powned and you don't know what to say to my post about your being Anti-vax and not knowing it. Post this in the Public Forum, I want you to! Making it easier for you to copy and paste.

Ostee Out! Never stop, Keep On Keepin' On

LOL. This mf is purrfektly coked up out of his mind. That is why nobody in either thread understands what the fuck he is talking about except himself.

[JjBee62]

Hehe, and did you get to run on and score any last minute goalkicks too?

A very common trait. I have accused Jpaedo of doing it before, but he didn't understand it then either. They love to assign labels to you so that they can attack you based on the attributes that they assign to that label. It makes their job easier bcos they are usually hopless positions. The problem with that line of argument is that they fail to understand your true position and they end up strawmanning you the whole time.

You continue to be the master of unintended irony.

The best part of your irony is that you won't read my posts, but continue to refer to me. And as you so often do, you accuse others of the things you are guilty of. Just one example is needed. You decided, based on absolutely nothing, that I engage in Pedophilia. Technically your accusation is contrary to the available data. Several times I've posted about the risks involved and how avoid accidentally picking up a girl under 18. Plus I'm reasonably well known in Medellin and frequently spend time with other BMs. I welcome your inquiries on the subject.

Meanwhile, in all my time on ISG, only 1 person has posted that he was mongering in Medellin with 3 children. That was you.

On the subject of you and MrE claiming you're not anti-vax, I've called bullshit many times and I will continue to do so.

It's like you, ridiculously simple. I can post that I'm a vegan. I can even post a picture of me enjoying a vegan meal in a vegan restaurant, which I occasionally do, minus the pictures. However, if 19 of 20 meals are centered around meat, my claim of practicing veganism is bogus.

Which brings us back to your bullshit claim that you're not anti-vax.

You have stated that your opposition to the vaccine is due to veganism. However, you have repeatedly posted about the ineffectiveness of the vaccines. As I've mentioned before, if you have a personal, moral objection to the vaccine, except when directly asked about your vaccination status, the subject is closed. Nothing more is required. However, you frequently post anti-vax propaganda. Why? Are you too clueless to understand that your moral position applies only to you?

While we're at it, let's look at your claim of moral opposition due to veganism. It turns out that's just another of your lies.

You have claimed to monger in Medellin. Other than the children you mongered with, were there at least a few adults? Can I assume you, at least occasionally, monger with people who aren't children and aren't vegans? If that's accurate, you're buying meat, milk and other animal products. Even worse, in some cases you're buying, certified tested on animals cosmetics.

Where did that moral objection go? On the one hand you're mortified by the thought of using a vaccine tested on animals (without ever taking a moral position on all the drugs tested on animals) but you have no reservations against giving money to women (and apparently children) with the knowledge they will use the money to buy meat and products tested on animals.

Case closed. You're just another anti-vax idiot.

[Osteoknot]

We read vaccinated people knowingly fly while infected and that seems OK. Isn't that strange?

Strange, but understandable. Either they are being hypocritical, or more likely, their decision to fly does not conflict with the belief they hold about anti-vaxers, which as you pointed out are myriad.

Now you know what I am going to say next but I will anyway. It doesn't matter.

Ostee Out.

[Nounce]

... And I still have no idea what osteo means by corrupted. Does he mean like contaminated, spoiled. ...

Something like this. I am too lazy to find the other post.

...The initial death rate was acceptable based on known data before it became corrupted. The vast majority of the deaths from the first wave was 80-90% or people who would have died from all causes within the next two years anyway. ....

.. Seems obvious that we have more than one definition for anti-vax here...

There is a range of reasons why people don't want vaccine. They are all lumped together by the other side. We read vaccinated people knowingly fly while infected and that seems OK. Isn't that strange?

[JustTK]

Only if you use the idea of corrupted data to backup your argument like you are doing in this reply.

Unless you agree on what you are discussing, its pointless to debate. Seems obvious that we have more than one definition for anti-vax here. And I still have no idea what osteo means by corrupted. Does he mean like contaminated, spoiled. Due to what? Too many concurrent influences?

[Osteoknot]

Only if you use the idea of corrupted data to backup your argument like you are doing in this reply. That is the cases of a lot of arguments here. I think secretly Elvis, Mr E, and JB are best friends. LOL. There are enough data around that you don't need to use Covid specific data for information.

You made a factual statement. So then I suppose the question remains, who is right on this issue? People using corrupted data to solve problems are by definition, delusional.

You may certainly have the last word on this thread if you wish, I am begging off. Thank you.

[Nounce]

And is impossible to answer. Have you not been paying attention? The methodology and the data are corrupted beyond the point of usability.

Only if you use the idea of corrupted data to backup your argument like you are doing in this reply. That is the cases of a lot of arguments here. I think secretly Elvis, Mr E, and JB are best friends. LOL. There are enough data around that you don't need to use Covid specific data for information.

[JustTK]

Reminds me when we used to go to the Pro Bowl in Hawaii and the more you tell people you are not an NFL player, the more they swear that you are. So fuck it. We just started signing balls and accepting invitations to the VIPs just like the real players. I AM NOT ANTI-VAX and never claimed to be.

Hehe, and did you get to run on and score any last minute goalkicks too?

A very common trait. I have accused Jpaedo of doing it before, but he didn't understand it then either. They love to assign labels to you so that they can attack you based on the attributes that they assign to that label. It makes their job easier bcos they are usually hopless positions. The problem with that line of argument is that they fail to understand your true position and they end up strawmanning you the whole time.

[Osteoknot]

I AM NOT ANTI-VAX and never claimed to be.

Yes, you are anti-vax, you just don't realize it.

Your viewpoint is untenable, morally and philosophically. Being for or against vaccines is not amoral, especially at this point in the Klusterfuck. And your viewpoint will become less so over time, but picking one side and then stating what every one else doesn't matter, is a pure and simple cop-out.

I could also build a logical argument to prove my same point, if I were inclined to put in the time and energy. This is not abortion, which is an intensely personal decision that does not directly effect others. Whether you realize or accept it or not, your choice is the same as anti-vax, and that is the natural reason why you come across as anti-vax and a bit confused. There is a disconnect between your words and actions. You keep saying it yourself, "Why do people think I am anti-vax?" One of the all-time classic pitfalls, your argument supports a viewpoint you say you do not have, jeje.

I realize that you don't know what you don't know about this and this will post not budge your opinion one iota, but it might help a few others understand. If it's any consolation, in the long run, it won't matter what side people take. With vaccines, as time goes by, the protection from infection declines. Unfortunately, there's been little discussion about this. But you will have to continue to deal with the ramifications once this vaccine becomes mandated. You have time.

You may certainly have the last word if you wish. There is nothing you can write that will alter my point. If by some miracle you do have a never before realized conceptual toehold, I would be the first to admit it The path of least resistance, less harm, and greater good is to get vaccinated. You will probably never realize that, the same as the anti-vaxers, not coincidentally. You are one of them, own it. Ostee Out.

[JjBee62]

Maybe you do not understand yourself correctly. Go back and read your original question to which my answer applied before responding on a tangent and applying a far-off assumption to my answer for a specific question that you asked.

You: What color is the sky?

Me: Blue.

You: So let me see if I understand you correctly. You like mustard on your hotdog because the sky is blue.

Me: Huh? You asked me nothing about hotdogs or condiments that go on them.

P. S. I have no idea why on each page of this thread some moron that obviously does not read English well says that I am anti-vax no matter how many times I say that I am pro-choice, not anti-vax.

Reminds me when we used to go to the Pro Bowl in Hawaii and the more you tell people you are not an NFL player, the more they swear that you are. So fuck it. We just started signing balls and accepting invitations to the VIPs just like the real players. I AM NOT ANTI-VAX and never claimed to be.

Thank you for giving me the opportunity to once again show how full of shit you are, and thanks for making it so easy. My original question:

Why only now speak out about 1 vaccine, when you haven't mentioned any of the other vaccine mandates, some which have been around for 50 years or more?

It was a reasonably simple question. Here's your reply:

Because this 1 "vaccine" did not work for you, but all the other ones did.

How simple can it be? "Because this 1 'vaccine' did not work for you, but all the other ones did. " Not only does it show that my response was perfectly valid, it also gives another example why people keep saying you're anti-vax. I'll try to make it simple for you. I doubt if I can make it simple enough, because ISG doesn't allow the use of crayons. Before I continue, let me correct your make believe conversation.

Me: What color is the sky?

You: Blue.

Me: Actually the sky has no color. It appears blue, most of the time because of scattering of sunlight.

You: I never said the sky was blue. Go back and look at your original question.

Me: I did. I asked what color is the sky and you answered "blue. ".

You: You don't understand English.

Back to showing how full of shit you are.

You put vaccine in quotes. One common use of quotes is to show something isn't what it claims to be. For example, when anyone mentions you as a reliable source of information, they should write it as "reliable. ".

There is a ridiculous amount of data showing the effectiveness of the Covid vaccines, from just about every health agency in the world. Certainly enough to show they are indeed vaccines. Regardless of what you might say, which has been shown to be mostly bullshit, claiming a vaccine is not a vaccine certainly makes the anti-vax label justified. However, there's plenty more.

You just brought up the only case that has proven to be caused by a Covid vaccine. One confirmed death in the US of over 250 million people who have received at least 1 dose of the vaccine. Compare that to 917 k Covid deaths in the US and anyone thinking 1 death is more important than 917 k deaths is either the world's biggest idiot, or just another anti-vax idiot.

Of course there's quite a bit more evidence that you're anti-vax. Several times you've posted about someone who is vaccinated who, according to you (a "reliable" source) had Covid and compared them to someone unvaccinated who hasn't had Covid (according to the same "reliable" source). You even famously claimed to have proof of a vaccinated person who had 2 separate Covid infections in less than 1 month, something not one single doctor or researcher on earth has proof of. Why?

I'll ask again. Why? Even in the preliminary studies on each vaccine it was shown they are not 100% effective at preventing infection, the same as every other vaccine. That was before all of the variants. Only an anti-vax idiot would expect a vaccine, which was already shown by the manufacturers to not be 100% effective at preventing infection, to be 100% effective against every variant. So why repeatedly point out individual cases of vaccinated people who got infected, while also pointing out unvaccinated people who haven't been infected? Except to reinforce an idiotic anti-vax position, it makes no sense. You might as well point out a Chevrolet broken down on the road and point out a Ford that isn't broken down, while suggesting that all Chevrolets break down and no Fords ever break down.

To further clarify my point, I know of several ISG members who have suggested they never do certain things, who have confided in me they do those things. Which is true? What they post or what they say?

Are you familiar with the saying "Actions speak louder than words?" You can say anything about yourself, but that doesn't make it true.

[Mr Enternational]

Let's see if I understand you correctly. You base your decision to be anti-vax (for the Covid vaccines) on my personal experience with Covid?

Maybe you do not understand yourself correctly. Go back and read your original question to which my answer applied before responding on a tangent and applying a far-off assumption to my answer for a specific question that you asked.

You: What color is the sky?

Me: Blue.

You: So let me see if I understand you correctly. You like mustard on your hotdog because the sky is blue.

Me: Huh? You asked me nothing about hotdogs or condiments that go on them.

P. S. I have no idea why on each page of this thread some moron that obviously does not read English well says that I am anti-vax no matter how many times I say that I am pro-choice, not anti-vax.

Reminds me when we used to go to the Pro Bowl in Hawaii and the more you tell people you are not an NFL player, the more they swear that you are. So fuck it. We just started signing balls and accepting invitations to the VIPs just like the real players. I AM NOT ANTI-VAX and never claimed to be.

[Fun Luvr]

Most people on a fixed income are getting Social Security or a Pension and they have annual Cost of Living Increases tied to the rate of inflation.

Most private employer pension plans do not include COL adjustments. Social Security uses a Consumer Price Index from the Bureau of Labor. That CPI does not include food and energy. Food and energy make up a large portion of the average retiree's expenditures.

Also, even when there is a COL increase to Social Security, a portion of it is taken by Medicare. During Obama's eight years, there were three years of 0% COL adjustment, and one year the adjustment was completely consumed by Medicare.

[MarquisdeSade1]

Yeah, that is the good news. Here is the bad: https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/p...afety-data-may.

Two weeks ago, the FDA begged a Texas judge to delay production on the first monthly batch of 55,000 pages of Covid-19 vaccine data submitted to the agency by Pfizer. Originally, the agency was set to produce just 500 pages-per-month.

Now, Pfizer. Which just forecast $54 billion in Covid-related sales in 2022, appears to be anticipating some bad news, as evidenced by several redline changes in their Q4 earnings releases.

As Rubicon Capital's Kelly Brown notes on Twitter, the changes center around disclosures of unfavorable safety data.

For example, in Q4 they added: "or further information regarding the quality of pre-clinical, clinical or safety data, including by audit or inspection."

The company also notes that Covid-19 may "diminish in severity or prevalence, or disappear entirely."

What's behind the curtain, Pfizer?

End of quote.

Despite the question, we know what is behind the curtain. The vaccines are not safe, and their efficacy is way overblown.

https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/st...11/id/1056537/

[JjBee62]

Because this 1 "vaccine" did not work for you, but all the other ones did.

However, I guess you can technically say it worked for this woman. It made sure that she will never get Covid.

The autopsy report lists Evans cause of death as anaphylaxis due to COVID-19 vaccination.

https://www.live5news.com/2022/02/10...id-19-vaccine/

Let's see if I understand you correctly. You base your decision to be anti-vax (for the Covid vaccines) on my personal experience with Covid?

I'm curious how you know if I've never had the flu after getting a flu shot? You might want to check your source, because someone is feeding you false information (or you're just making shit up again).

For the record, the vaccine worked quite well for me. I'm still alive. I consider that a better outcome than being dead. I'll just cut you off on your response. The vast majority of deaths in the past year have been unvaccinated people. The vast majority of vaccinated deaths have been people with 4 or more comorbidities.

As for your wonderful example of 1 person who died from anaphylaxis after getting vaccinated, that's a possibility with any vaccine. For Covid vaccines the rate is 5 cases per 1 million vaccinations. That's cases, not deaths. In most cases, immediate treatment will prevent death. Which is why (at least in the US) each person receiving the vaccine is supposed to stay at the vaccination site for 15 minutes. Anaphylaxis is an allergic reaction. It either happens very quickly, or it doesn't happen. In the one case you found, the woman was a severe risk for anaphylaxis. Did she inform the vaccination clinic of her risk before vaccination?

There were also 3 deaths from thrombosis which are considered to be probably caused by a vaccine. With over 250 million people in the US having received at least 1 dose of a Covid vaccine, 4 deaths is. 016 deaths per million due to vaccination. Compare that to 11,800 deaths per million Covid cases.

Surely you're not stupid enough to believe that. 016 is greater than 11,800?