Medellin Reports

[Mr Enternational]

That housekeeper is getting paid for every hour she is at her work site. The street walker is only getting paid when she is with a customer. She may have only one 30 minute session in six hours, and maybe none. Your example is like comparing the hourly wage of a self-employed handy man to an hourly paid full time maintenance man at a factory, hotel, etc. Some days the self employed person may have lots of customers, and some days very few or none.

Keep in mind that the street chick or self-employed handyman have the freedom to do whatever they want on their time between customers. The hourly workers are expected to be constantly doing some task during those hours. There are pros and cons to everything. Pick your own poison.

[Elvis 2008]

Looks like you have it backwards. With you paying $100 for something that costs $30, the one that the locals is laughing at is you!

Don't worry though. The locals are getting the same thing from laughing at you as you are getting for paying three times more; nothing.

Yeah, I cannot tell you how many times I have gotten into a cab with my gal, and we have a cab driver looking to fleece us. I see what they see, an older man with a younger hot gal, and the cabbies think they can fleece me with the ride. If I object to the fare, it looks like I have no money and look like a fool in front of the woman.

So I cannot tell you how many times a cabbie will say a ride is 20 mil and my gal will chime in and say, "No, that is a 10 mil ride" and scold the cabbie in her motherly "I am so ashamed of you" voice. Those cabbies sink down in their seats after being busted, and after that happens, I assure you the cabbie is not laughing but I am.

[Fun Luvr]

I'm just expounding more on what MR E said: Go to the ads and see that for example most housekeepers in Colombia earn about 13 dollars for about 6 hours work, that is about $2. 50 and hour so a street walker girl (average in looks) who can make 15 dollars in 30 minutes is making like 12 times what an unskilled laborer is making.

That housekeeper is getting paid for every hour she is at her work site. The street walker is only getting paid when she is with a customer. She may have only one 30 minute session in six hours, and maybe none. Your example is like comparing the hourly wage of a self-employed handy man to an hourly paid full time maintenance man at a factory, hotel, etc. Some days the self employed person may have lots of customers, and some days very few or none.

[Husker Dude]

Let me reply to the search.

As I was about to check in a guy all suited up ask a few questions about if left the city of Medellin. I said no and asked what I did.

I said I stayed in Laurels but went to El Poblado for dinner.

It was not the police.

Probably working for American Airlines.

He spoke perfect English.

I checked in did the security check.

Went to the boarding area.

About 2 hours they started to call some names.

I heard mine but no AA repwas by the boarding gate.

So 15 minutes later names were called again. I saw the female rep that checked me in.

I went up to her she collected my boarding pass.

As boarding was started at the side saw the the that spoke to me doing the searches.

My and another Indian guy from Suriname and others was Spanish people.

2 older ladies were searched.

They used a paper swabbed my hands.

Under my shirt and my hand luggage.

Put it in a machine it made some sounds.

Then I was allowed to board he said it was a random selection no one was targeted.

So that's it.

I've been called once out of about 20 trips to MDE too. Same deal.

[Mr Enternational]

You worry what other people pay to enjoy themselves. I think people earn to make life better. So don't make the locals laugh at you.

Looks like you have it backwards. With you paying $100 for something that costs $30, the one that the locals is laughing at is you!

No idea how it makes your life better to walk into McDonald's and pay $10 for a Big Mac that says $3 on the menu, but as I said it will give you are warm and fuzzy feeling, but you will get the same 2 beef patties, special sauce, lettuce, cheese as everyone else that stood in line and paid $3.

Don't worry though. The locals are getting the same thing from laughing at you as you are getting for paying three times more; nothing.

[Gabacho]

Let me reply to the search.

As I was about to check in a guy all suited up ask a few questions about if left the city of Medellin. I said no and asked what I did.

I said I stayed in Laurels but went to El Poblado for dinner.

It was not the police.

Probably working for American Airlines.

He spoke perfect English.

I checked in did the security check.

Went to the boarding area.

About 2 hours they started to call some names.

I heard mine but no AA repwas by the boarding gate.

So 15 minutes later names were called again. I saw the female rep that checked me in.

I went up to her she collected my boarding pass.

As boarding was started at the side saw the the that spoke to me doing the searches.

My and another Indian guy from Suriname and others was Spanish people.

2 older ladies were searched.

They used a paper swabbed my hands.

Under my shirt and my hand luggage.

Put it in a machine it made some sounds.

Then I was allowed to board he said it was a random selection no one was targeted.

So that's it.

There was some more info posted on this back in October I think. I found an article on it online a while back too. Basically the US TSA is responsible for these searches. On international flights that are bound to the US the TSA is monitoring all people who book those flights from any countries, not just Colombia, and they "randomly" select people for an SSSS search and communicate with the airlines and have them conduct the searches. I believe you will have somewhat of a heads up as you won't be able to check in online like normal, and when you get checked in at the airport the paper boarding pass will have the letters SSSS on them. Agn this is only on flights bound to the US.

[JjBee62]

Can you be a little more specific about the secondary search?

When you enter into the International gate at the airport, after they confirm you have a boarding pass, there are typically two Colombian police whom are looking at Passports and decide whom may be sent for a more thorough search by the Police, besides airport security. I have seen the Colombian police going thru peoples things, paperwork, etc.

You said it was a secondary search, yet I have never seen a secondary search of anyone after going thru the main checkpoint.

I have flown on Avianca, Copa, and American and have yet to see this during the last seven years.

Was it conducted just prior to boarding the plane, and if so by whom?

Just curious, that's all.

I've seen this in the US and I think I've seen it in either Bogota or Medellin (not certain because I wasn't one who was pulled).

When it happened to me in the US some of us were pulled aside just before boarding. Carry on baggage was checked and we were either frisked or scanned with the metal detector wand. In my case I believe I was selected because I changed my flight at the last minute.

I'm a bit paranoid about missing my flight because of something beyond my control, so I usually arrive about 2 hours early. That time, once I arrived I realized there was an earlier flight available and was able to switch at no cost.

[TjBrazil]

I'm just expounding more on what MR E said: Go to the ads and see that for example most housekeepers in Colombia earn about 13 dollars for about 6 hours work, that is about $2. 50 and hour so a street walker girl (average in looks) who can make 15 dollars in 30 minutes is making like 12 times what an unskilled laborer is making. None of this includes the money put out for love hotels. Street walkers make decent money by Colombian standards

A FB chica makes about $50 in two hours so that is 20 times what a laborer makes. It also like MR E says. It is the margin that matters. If I am on a three week trip I could be with 2 FB chicas a day that's 40 chicas, if I pay them 75 each that total is 1000 dollars difference. Pay them 100 that's 2000 dollars difference - 1st rule of economics says "rational people think at the margin". These FB chicas are making excellent money by Colombian standards.

They should make more money than a hotel worker. They are selling their body. It's a soul crushing job for a girl even if you're kind and they are attractive to you. They can only do it for a short time. I've seen girls hit the wall in 3 years in this business. I was with a hooker in Tijuana and her body was a 10.3 years later I lost interest because she gained so much weight. She turned into a 5 at best.

[TjBrazil]

My opinion on how much to pay the girls is a ymmv basis. For example, When I picked up on that Brazilian Gabbie Carter on the beach in front of Othon Palace, I asked her how much and she said 200 reals which was 50 bucks at that time. Do you think I sat there and said her rent is probably 100 dollars a month so I better offer her 100 reals. I didn't give a crap, I was with the hottest chic I had ever been with, with natural DD and a body that screamed sex. The going rate was around 200 to 250 reals back then for gringos. That's what I paid. Don't overpay, but don't miss a opportunity for great memories because the locals might pay 25 bucks and they are charging you 50 bucks. Get over it, they are poor.

Later in the week I was in help and found another hottie that wanted 250 reals. I offered 200, and she said no, so off we went for 250. I was with her probably 6 times on two separate trips until she got fat and lost her body, but she was great while it lasted. You have to take advantage of these situations if you're young because you won't be able to bang all these hotties all week when you're 50 or 60.

[Mojo Bandit]

Hi.

You guys only talk about prices.

Why spend all that money on tickets hotels and food but don't want to give a beautiful young energetic girl 75 or 100 dollars.

That's peanuts. One guy said at the sport bar it's 30 k pesos for a smirnoff ice.

Sureman.

I'm just expounding more on what MR E said: Go to the ads and see that for example most housekeepers in Colombia earn about 13 dollars for about 6 hours work, that is about $2. 50 and hour so a street walker girl (average in looks) who can make 15 dollars in 30 minutes is making like 12 times what an unskilled laborer is making. None of this includes the money put out for love hotels. Street walkers make decent money by Colombian standards

A FB chica makes about $50 in two hours so that is 20 times what a laborer makes. It also like MR E says. It is the margin that matters. If I am on a three week trip I could be with 2 FB chicas a day that's 40 chicas, if I pay them 75 each that total is 1000 dollars difference. Pay them 100 that's 2000 dollars difference - 1st rule of economics says "rational people think at the margin". These FB chicas are making excellent money by Colombian standards.

[SureMan]

You are speaking from a vacationer/tourist point of view. If you lived there or traveled there every month would you seriously look at it as being peanuts giving a different beautiful young energetic girl $100 everyday? More than likely you would not, knowing their rent is $120 for the entire month and people in a normal job make $200 per month.

People that live places or travel to places often tend to seek out and pay more of the local rate than a vacationing spendthrift cares to think about. $100 to three girls IS peanuts over 1 week of vacation. But if a mf is constantly there it would be ridiculous for him to spend $100 on every chick he fucks in a third world country.

My first time to Chiang Mai, Thailand I was looking for a tour to do. Of course being a vacationer I wanted to have things lined up as many guys on this site do with women. Online I saw the tour that I wanted. It was $100. Being that I lived in a different part of Thailand that price sounded a little off to me, so I did not purchase it. When I landed at the airport in Chiang Mai they had booths with the same tour for sale. The price was $60. Still I did not bite.

When I got to the hotel, they were selling the same exact all-day Golden Triangle tour for $30. A normal vacationer would have probably bought the $100 tour when he saw it online since it was peanuts compared to all the money they spent on tickets and hotels, but they would have been in the exact same van getting the exact same service as me, the guy that waited until he was on the ground at the hotel and paid $30.

If it makes you feel all warm and fuzzy inside to give the extra money then have at it, but you are fucking the same pussy and getting the same smiles as the guy who paid the common rate.

That's one reason most people go on vacation to enjoy themselves.

Not to pinch pennies. Does not matter if you live there or travel every month.

Just go and enjoy the time you are there.

You worry what other people pay to enjoy themselves.

I think people earn to make life better.

So don't make the locals laugh at you.

[SureMan]

Let me reply to the search.

As I was about to check in a guy all suited up ask a few questions about if left the city of Medellin. I said no and asked what I did.

I said I stayed in Laurels but went to El Poblado for dinner.

It was not the police.

Probably working for American Airlines.

He spoke perfect English.

I checked in did the security check.

Went to the boarding area.

About 2 hours they started to call some names.

I heard mine but no AA repwas by the boarding gate.

So 15 minutes later names were called again. I saw the female rep that checked me in.

I went up to her she collected my boarding pass.

As boarding was started at the side saw the the that spoke to me doing the searches.

My and another Indian guy from Suriname and others was Spanish people.

2 older ladies were searched.

They used a paper swabbed my hands.

Under my shirt and my hand luggage.

Put it in a machine it made some sounds.

Then I was allowed to board he said it was a random selection no one was targeted.

So that's it.

[JustTK]

Then what is Hotel Nutibara?

I have never checked the official rules, but I would put Nutibara at 2 star myself. The staff are maybe 3 star, and the potential is 4 star, but the reality is lower. The rooms and internet and hotlel facilities are pretty shlt.

[Paulie97]

Then what is Hotel Nutibara?

Two star, and that's being generous. Also mice infested by many reports. Fast little critters, tough to see anything beyond a blur when they dart out from under a baseboard. But set up some traps with peanut butter, bet ya nab something. That's Osteoknot's favorite hotel.

[MarquisdeSade1]

Then what is Hotel Nutibara?

1 star LMAO.