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09-02-22 12:15 #9901Senior Member

Posts: 1604You must be a genius
You are the only business that ever exported product from China and got the Chinese to lower their prices after their currency devaluation. The only one. Every other company, from Whirlpool to Ford to Tyson to 3 M to Harley-Davidson passed at least some of the increased cost onto consumers. But not your supposed company. You were the only company to beat the Chinese while the rest of these billion-dollar companies had import specialists and lawyers that were as stupid as the ones Donnie the Dumbass hires.
Originally Posted by Canada
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Congratulations! You need to sell your expertise to every billion-dollar company in the world who was not able to do that. You would make a fortune.
On the other hand, you could show us the actual contracts that prove your point.
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09-02-22 09:40 #9900Senior Member

Posts: 4832Yeah, you just lost the argument with that.
Originally Posted by PVMonger
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And that being illegal was what was trending on the right wing media, and it is correct. It is illegal to take that photo but you think the government can never do anything illegal.
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Say what? LOL. That issue is not before the court now dummy.
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You mean the fraud that started with the Hiliary campaign which the FBI knew was a fraud in mid 2016 and yet Comey continued to investigate. Yeah, making a bogus criminal case against your boss is a good way to get fired.
Originally Posted by PVMonger
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Why the quotes? That is weak.
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You know why. That is weaker still. There should be no question of his status to look at the documents. Why is that an issue? It is better to err on the side of caution.
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I don't? Says who?
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There was no way the courts were going to get involved in a presidential election back then or in the future but, but you dumb Dems think they are going to get involved now on your side. The courts want nothing to do with this case and will toss it, and Garland knows it.
Originally Posted by PVMonger
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Ethics and lawyers? LOL. That is a good one. FWIW, judges are some of the best pols going. You have a way too high opinion of the judicial system.
Originally Posted by PVMonger
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Who cares? I quoted the law to you and the case the law was based on. What you do not get is the law is based on a Supreme Court precedent, and they can say what Trump did was legal, and it is case closed, and there is not a fucking thing you can do about it. But the judges have to be given the chance to rule, and SCOTUS has to wait for the cases to go through the lower courts.
Originally Posted by PVMonger
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You keep responding with your weak ass arguments when the truth is you have no idea about the fucking process. You are embarrassing yourself. You usually represent the Democratic side well PVM but not this time. You have no clue what you are talking about.
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09-02-22 06:43 #9899Senior Member

Posts: 7973Wave a Red Bye-Bye
What Democrats' Win In Alaska Tells Us About November.
Sept. 1, 2022
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features...bout-november/
Yeah, I said early on to be mindful that these polls are probably over-sampling Repubs.For the second time in as many weeks, Democrats have won a competitive special election. And by the numbers, this win was even more impressive than last weeks victory in New Yorks 19th District.
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Impressively, Peltola managed to prevail despite Alaska being a fairly red state. According to FiveThirtyEights partisan lean metric, Alaska is 15 percentage points redder than the nation as a whole. That means going by the results in the final round, Peltolas 3-point victory was an 18-point overperformance for Democrats. By contrast, last week, Democrat Pat Ryan won New Yorks 19th District, an R+4 seat, by 2 points just a 6-point overperformance.
Still, the two things and the ONLY things Repubs have going for them to "win" some Congressional seats this mid-term is the long tradition of the out Party in the White House typically doing so in the first mid-term of a presidency anyway and the built-in election-rigging element of extreme gerrymandering favoring Repubs combined with the Repubs' nation-wide packing of state and local ballot-collecting and vote-counting positions with their looniest American democracy-hating QAnon Repubs.
Both of which are critical to swaying the outcome vs the polling and might indeed allow Repubs to prevail.
Otherwise, Repubs have absolutely nothing on their side to justify earning so much as a single free and fair vote and Dems have everything on their side to justify getting 100% of the free and fair votes.
To recap on the poll issue:
Even as actual election results have strongly suggested most polls are way over-sampling Repubs, as of this writing, the Consensus Poll of Polls on the demonstrably winger-leaning RealClearPolitics site and the more highly regarded FiveThirtyEight site show Biden with a higher Job Approval and Favorability Rating than any other Party leader in Congress.
It is higher than either House of Congress.
It is higher than anyone or any entity that can do anything to continue cleaning up the horrific "mess" Trump and his classic Repub policies and stewardship left behind.
It is higher than the immediate former guy had at this point in his so-called presidency and he beats the former guy and 2024 Repub front-runner nominee soundly in a hypothetical head-to-head poll question.
The Dems are also now leading and on the rise in voter preference to control Congress on both sites, following a dramatic plunge for Repubs on that advantage.
And that is before a couple of recent major polls with decidedly good news for Dems (and therefore for America) have been factored into the consensus, before the reaction to Biden's brilliant Soul of America speech has settled in and before most voters have stopped to take a good hard look at the America-hating loons that Trump endorsed into a nomination in many races.
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09-02-22 03:54 #9898Regular Member

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09-02-22 03:35 #9897Senior Member

Posts: 7973Of course rabid QAnon loons love you
The reason Chris and the Marquis love you is because they know your False Equivalency Bothsiderism only serves to help their beloved USA Economy-destroying Repubs get elected.
Originally Posted by JustTK
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Only one Party and POTUSes pass legislation that, among other beneficial results, raise or establish reasonable minimum tax rates on the "wealthy only" in order to pay for the benefits and services the vast majority of Americans want their tax money to pay for and provide. That would be the Democratic Party.
Hence, Dems have produced every major economic boom time and massive private sector jobs creation of the past 100 years or so and none of the Great Recessions and Great Crashes.
Only one Party has systematically reduce and eliminate taxes for the "wealthy only" in order to, among other disastrous results, 'starve the beast' of the vast majority getting what they want their tax money to pay for and provide. That would be the Republican Party.
Hence, Repubs have produced every Great Recession, Great Crash and massive private sector job destruction of the past 100 years or so and none of the boom times and massive private sector job creation.
Only one Party wants more Americans to vote and makes it easier for them to do so while only one Party wants fewer Americans to vote and makes it harder for them to do so.
Do I even need to cite which one is which?
Your pro Repub False Equivalency and Bothsiderism helps immeasurably to produce the very "mess" you are presumably referring to. You really might as well stand in line behind the most rabid America-hating QAnon loons and match their Repub votes all down the ballot for every election.
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09-02-22 00:51 #9896Senior Member

Posts: 1604Nothing in your post is true!
The BS flowing from you gets deeper and deeper by the minute. There is, literally, nothing in this rant that is even remotely true. Hell, there isn't anything here that Qanon would consider true.
Originally Posted by Elvis2008
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You seem to imply that you have a JD because you try to make all sorts of legal arguments. Where did you get the JD anyway? TRUMP University?
Photos? Yeah, the FBI and the DOJ don't know the law but you do? Serouusly? That's what you want us to believe? There was no photo of classified information. There was a photo of cover sheets. Only an idiot or a moron would look at the photo and say that it was of classified information. Oh, wait. Donnie the Dumbass said that.
Donnie the Dumbass' team of minimum-wage legal idiots never mentioned "the warrant" in their filing on August 31. Not once. Evidently, these geniuses didn't think the warrant was a big deal. But you, with your tRUMP you JD or LLM or SJD or MLS or MDR degree are soooooo much smarter than them. So I don't know who is dumber. Maybe you ought to lend your legal expertise to Donnie's team of idiots.
FYI, Donnie the Dumbass admitted that he fired Comey because of the Russia investigation. https://www.vox.com/policy-and-polit...ublican-voters.
Speaking of a "special master", didn't Donnie the Dumbass say that he declassified all of the documents? Didn't you say that too? And since Donnie the Dumbass said that, why did his team of "we'll work for free because we know he'll stiff us" crackpot legal geniuses specify in their filing yesterday that the "special master" needed to have the appropriate high security clearance? One needs no security clearance to view unclassified documents. Oops.
See, one of the many things that you don't understand is that lawyers who lie in court are subject to severe penalties. That's why none of the 60+ election lawsuits filed by Donnie the Dumbass' lawyers alleged election fraud. That's why Donnie the Dumbass' lawyers didn't say that the documents were declassified. Because you need to show proof to the judge when you file that type of paperwork with the court. Donnie the Dumbass' lawyers couldn't provide election fraud proof and they can't provide declassification proof. They may be working for minimum wage but they aren't stupid. (Well, they are but they work cheap) What good is your supposed law degree if you can't even understand a basic legal ethics question such as that? Something that's taught in the first week of law school. (My brother is a lawyer and he said that that subject is covered very early in law school).
So, the documents in question have not been declassified. Even members of Donnie the Dumbass' own so-called administration have said that his blanket declassification order was "bullshit". Since the documents haven't been declassified, nobody can see them unless they have the appropriate security clearance. Donnie's own lawyers even said that the documents haven't been declassified (see above).
And, besides, the documents do not belong to Donnie the Dumbass. How many times does somebody need to say this before you get it through your thick skull. That is the question here. And the overriding one at that. The rest of of your arguments are, as usual, a smokescreen.
Donnie the Dumbass was illegally in possession of classified documents. He, himself, signed into law a bill increasing the penalty for such an act to a felony and five (5) years in prison. He was so stupid that he thought that he'd be able to pin that charge on HRC. Too bad the bill didn't specify 5 years for every document. You probably can't do the math but, at last count, Donnie the Dumbass had illegal possession of more than 230 classified documents after January 20th, 2020.5 * 230 = 1,150 years in prison. Somehow, I don't think he'd come out of that sentence alive. Lucky for him that he didn't sign a bill that sasid that anybody in possession of classified documents should be shot. Remember, he said that about Assange and Snowden. And Donnie the Dumbass is guilty of the same crime that he wanted them shot for. https://news.yahoo.com/trump-likely-...210237403.html.
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09-02-22 00:26 #9895Senior Member

Posts: 4040Wise words and Touche'
Even a broken clock is correct twice a day JK LOL.
Originally Posted by JustTK
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This is why I hate both parties equally!!
This is why we need Our Supreme Leader Donald J Trump for life!!
He is the only one that can save humanity!!
Don't you see where that appraoch gets you? I will tell you where. Right here, in this mess that the USA has landed. This is the result of decades of passing the baton between one group of corrupt wealthy benefactors to another. And supporters of both sides just continue to blame the other. Well, I guess you get what you deserve.
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09-02-22 00:09 #9894Senior Member

Posts: 1945Thats because I am not a "wacko left dem douche". I am a Marxist terrorist. Haha. Kiddin. I am an anarchist, not a communist. I beleive in transnationalism. If you want some homework, you should look into it. You might find its not so "nuts" after all. - Imagine, if you will, the USA as a template for the world. Anyone can go and live or work anywhere they like. Freedom of movement, no borders. Now imagine that you remove the federal government and you decentralise the decision making back to county level, or even lower. That's pretty much what I want for the entire world.
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Absolutely correct. The trouble is, both sides of the political spectrum in the USA are equally guilty of that. Neither side is capable of accepting that their own party represents the wealthy only. Both sides instead stick to the tried and tested method of ignoring their own mistakes and hurling custard pies at the opposition.
Originally Posted by ChrisP
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Don't you see where that appraoch gets you? I will tell you where. Right here, in this mess that the USA has landed. This is the result of decades of passing the baton between one group of corrupt wealthy benefactors to another. And supporters of both sides just continue to blame the other. Well, I guess you get what you deserve.
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09-01-22 21:12 #9893Regular Member

Posts: 2344TrumpShit jerks off to them.
Originally Posted by Xpartan
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If TrumpShit would just admit he soaked most pages with his jizz, the FBI would gladly return them immediately.
Imaging you were the FBI agent assigned to pull fingerprints off those Top Secret documents to see who's fingers flipped through the pages?
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09-01-22 20:17 #9892Senior Member

Posts: 4040Vlad is God, long live Russia
You mess with what is in the best interest of the people and they will throw you off a balcony.
Originally Posted by ChrisP
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The oligarchs / CEOs don't control politicians in Russia like they do in Europe and the USA.
https://www.aol.com/news/russian-oil...133254073.html
https://stormer-daily.rw/american-go...inally-croaks/
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09-01-22 19:19 #9891Senior Member

Posts: 4832Because they are embarrassing to the FBI, and Trump thought the FBI would destroy them. Duh.
Originally Posted by Xpartan
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Yeah, with you that is the only possible explanation, Russiagate was true, the pee tape was real, and Victoria Nuland did not say "Yats is our guy" and "Fuck the EU" of the 2014 coup.
Originally Posted by Xpartan
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I am just curious Xpartan. Was the pee story and pee tape real?
You know that pee tape is what could have been top secret. That is what Trump kept in his safe.
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09-01-22 19:10 #9890Senior Member

Posts: 4832And you think that is important? Well, if this goes to trial, Trump is going to say he declassified these documents, SCOTUS will say it too and then everyone is going to read this stuff and see how stupid this designation is. After all the shit the FBI has pulled, you are so stupid that you think the FBI and government is perfect. Glenn Greenwald who got all of the national security documents that Snowden pulled said national security really is national security 10% of the time and is political security 90% of the time.
Originally Posted by ScatManDoo
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Elvira? LOL. I do not even know how to respond. The government is doing everything I said to do now which is focus on sick people and leave mostly healthy people alone. The government has stopped paying for testing, tossing $100 billions worth of expired vaccines and sadly is not paying for monoclonal antibodies, and the death rate for the vaccinated is higher than the unvaccinated.
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Like with masks, Fauci contradicted himself and is saying he was always against lockdowns. Even the CDC has admitted their response was screwed up. Outside of a prediction based upon the earliest strain of the virus two years ago using modeling, which I took back once the virus mutated, no one has been more right about Covid that me.
What is funny with dumb Dems like you is that you have not kept up. Elvira? LOL. Your heroes, Biden, Fauci, and the Pfizer CEO, got immunized and boosted x 4 and all got Covid, and you dummies are still arguing for the benefits of the vaccine. How dumb are you people?
LOL. For what? Keeping documents showing the FBI is corrupt? You still do not get why the FBI used a warrant and not a subpoena.
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09-01-22 19:05 #9889Senior Member

Posts: 1298California at its finest
California residents are reacting to mixed messages from California leadership, as the state is asking residents to refrain from charging electric vehicles amid heat wave blackout fears, just one week after passing legislation banning the sale of gas cars by 2035.
The California Independent System Operator has warned that stress on the energy grid could lead to blackouts and called for consumer conservation between 4 pm And 9 pm.
Wednesday's announcement comes less than one week after California regulators moved to require all new vehicles in the state to run on electricity by 2035, an ambitious goal by the country's most populous state to phase out gasoline-powered automobiles and curb carbon emissions.
Yes California is telling residents to stop charging their electric cars during the heat wave. It will really be a green state when has cars are gone and electric cars can't charge their batteries.
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09-01-22 17:20 #9888Regular Member

Posts: 657Top Secret Documents Photo!
Here you go. The top secret documents the FBI desperately wanted from the Trump house along with the affidavit showing justification for the action! LOL.
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09-01-22 17:16 #9887Senior Member

Posts: 756No not even close to everyone in the world thinks it was as coup. By your definition Richard Nixons removal from office was a coup, Boris Johnson was a coup? I guess Sth Korea has had several coups. Well by your definition not by the standards normal people work by. Coups are the taking of power by unelected people. Ukrainians had the Rada install a president followed by an election. The position and title was not seized as in a coup.
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