Lima

[Jack Jericho]

Sex parties are back!

Sly One's famous sex parties stopped in 2014 when he moved out of Lima. We re-started them, with Sly One's participation and my help, two years later in 2016. Last party was on July 2019.

We are going to restart the parties this January 31st (Tuesday), Sly One and I take two out of the five slots so there are still three slots available. Anyone planning to be in Lima by January 31st and interested in attending must PM me for details.

J. J.

[Mr Enternational]

You're just a worthless troll.

LOL. I have hung out with RacShack in person. Worthless troll he is not.

[Cons68]

No good deed goes unpunished.

You are right Ojeito.

I just thought it would be helful.

Later.

[Jockey16]

You are right Ojeito.

The reason I got involved in the transaction is that I felt that by guaranteeing her certain amount, she would agree to see Bob.

In Peru, you don't break the law by introducing friends, however, you do so if you receive money for the effort.

It would be insane to justify breaking the law to receive the exorbitant amount of perhaps $30 every 2 months or so.

I DO NOT GET A PENNY FROM THIS.

If anything and after so many years of not having any problems with ISG folks, perhaps this incident has shown me to help.

Only those who I helped in the past.

I apologize to the ISG community for bringing this issue up.

I just thought it would be helful.

Later.

Introducing girls to other bm's seems ok and you are quite generous to do so but getting directly involved in the process of negotiations between the two parties is a foolish move on jockeys part. Contacting the guy you "helped" and demanding he pay up is what pimps do. Relaying the terms of the sexual encounter before it occurs is another thing pimps do. Not so sure what "reverse pimping" means but regardless, you are setting yourself up for potential serious legal troubles by inserting yourself into another punter's transaction. The worst part for you jockey is this guy bob who you have put on full blast probably has all the evidence on his phone that proves your involvement in you "pimping" your "friend". You escalating the whole situation by posting this guy's pic and contact info is just a bad way to proceed. It never pays to be a white knight amigo.

Introducing girls to other bm's seems ok and you are quite generous to do so but getting directly involved in the process of negotiations between the two parties is a foolish move on jockeys part. Contacting the guy you "helped" and demanding he pay up is what pimps do. Relaying the terms of the sexual encounter before it occurs is another thing pimps do. Not so sure what "reverse pimping" means but regardless, you are setting yourself up for potential serious legal troubles by inserting yourself into another punter's transaction. The worst part for you jockey is this guy bob who you have put on full blast probably has all the evidence on his phone that proves your involvement in you "pimping" your "friend". You escalating the whole situation by posting this guy's pic and contact info is just a bad way to proceed. It never pays to be a white knight amigo.

[Jack Jericho]

What is pimping?

I'm sure that almost everybody here has a clear idea of what can be considered pimping and what cannot; almost everybody is wrong. Pimping is a criminal offense, so what is considered pimping and what is not varies from one country to another, and depends exclusively on its definition by local law. So I took the trouble of looking into Peruvian legislation and this is what I found:

Offenses related to prostitution are described in articles 179 to 182 of the penal code (legislative decree No. 635), and there are four different crimes related to prostitution:

1. Favoring prostitution: To promote or favor the prostitution of another person.

2. Ruffianism: To exploit the dishonest profit obtained by a person who exercises the prostitution.

3. Pimping: To commit, seduce, or subtract a person to deliver it to another with the purpose of having carnal access.

4. Trafficking in persons: To promote or facilitate the recruitment for the exit or entry of the country or the transfer within the territory of the Republic of a person to practice prostitution, subject it to sexual slavery, pornography or other forms of sexual exploitation.

*Translated by myself from the text of the law

So, strictly by Peruvian law, what Jockey16 does is not pimping.

Of course it could be categorized as Favoring Prostitution, an offence punished with not less than two nor more than five years in jail but, in that case, any member of this forum who gives out the contact info of a girl, even if he does not benefit from that (and if the gratitude of both parties is not considered a benefit), would have to be found guilty of such an offence.

Having said that, I think that what Jockey16 did about @GhostRecon was right. Anyone who behaves like @GhostRecon deserves to be exposed and we all should thank Jockey16 for the warning. And I also think that he did well posting his photograph; it would cost him only US $ 25.00 to get a new nick and go on getting referrals and scamming the girls.

J. J.

[HoistGuy]

You could say that in a delusional state of logic.

When I refer my mechanic to someone is that pimping? If yes. Then everyone is a pimp.

All good. If he is adding value and helping both parties of the transaction it's a win-win.

But I don't agree with any member posting pictures of another member on the form though.

I'm planning on a January visit to lima. Can Jockey help me out or should I stick to Geisha Academy and KINESTOPS?

[OJeito]

I don't think you know Jockey. He is an amazing dude, one of the best people I have connected with at on this site, a true gentleman.

People have their own ways of doing charity and helping humanity, this is Jockey's way. He is helping these women make their life's better and also helping the guys on this forum.

It took me a while to wrap my head around what he is doing but once I understood, I have a lot of respect for him.

Introducing girls to other bm's seems ok and you are quite generous to do so but getting directly involved in the process of negotiations between the two parties is a foolish move on jockeys part. Contacting the guy you "helped" and demanding he pay up is what pimps do. Relaying the terms of the sexual encounter before it occurs is another thing pimps do. Not so sure what "reverse pimping" means but regardless, you are setting yourself up for potential serious legal troubles by inserting yourself into another punter's transaction. The worst part for you jockey is this guy bob who you have put on full blast probably has all the evidence on his phone that proves your involvement in you "pimping" your "friend". You escalating the whole situation by posting this guy's pic and contact info is just a bad way to proceed. It never pays to be a white knight amigo.

[Dg8787]

Isn't what he's doing is considered pimping? And the consequences could be very very bad? Or I'm wrong? Be safe guys!

You could say that in a delusional state of logic.

When I refer my mechanic to someone is that pimping? If yes. Then everyone is a pimp.

[Luminous]

I don't think you know Jockey. He is an amazing dude, one of the best people I have connected with at on this site, a true gentleman.

People have their own ways of doing charity and helping humanity, this is Jockey's way. He is helping these women make their life's better and also helping the guys on this forum.

It took me a while to wrap my head around what he is doing but once I understood, I have a lot of respect for him.

Isn't what he's doing is considered pimping? And the consequences could be very very bad? Or I'm wrong? Be safe guys!

[Jockey16]

Rackshack.

Perhaps your comment should have been directed to me.

Pimping:

"a criminal who is associated with, usually exerts control over.

And lives off the earnings of one or more prostitutes".

Accusations like yours appear once in a while and I alwaus answer them.

The same way.

Thank God I don't need to make $30 "commission" every time I am asked for.

Help in introducing friends, about once a month or so, however, this small amount.

By American standards, which I ended up giving to her, means a lot to these girls.

Pimping in reverse perhaps?

Later.

Isn't what he's doing is considered pimping? And the consequences could be very very bad? Or I'm wrong? Be safe guys!

Isn't what he's doing is considered pimping? And the consequences could be very very bad? Or I'm wrong? Be safe guys!

[Jockey16]

Rackshack.

Perhaps your comment should have been directed to me.

Pimping:

"a criminal who is associated with, usually exerts control over.

And lives off the earnings of one or more prostitutes".

Accusations like yours appear once in a while and I alwaus answer them.

The same way.

Thank God I don't need to make $30 "commission" every time I am asked for.

Help in introducing friends, about once a month or so, however, this small amount.

By American standards, which I ended up giving to her, means a lot to these girls.

Pimping in reverse perhaps?

Later.

Isn't what he's doing is considered pimping? And the consequences could be very very bad? Or I'm wrong? Be safe guys!

[RacShack]

Very good post backed up with facts. I too have given referrals and have been burned.

Isn't what he's doing is considered pimping? And the consequences could be very very bad? Or I'm wrong? Be safe guys!

[Luminous]

What an a*hole to break the trust of someone who essentially helped him out.

Hi Folks,

My only purpose in publishing this unfortunate incident is to make sure that anyone who is contacted by Bob for introductions, be aware.

Later.

[Dg8787]

Hi Folks,

I hope I am not violating any forum rules since this is the first time this has happened to me in the last 15 years I have been helping ISG folks with introductions, when being asked, and since I have not received an answer from the forum administrator.

On November 22, GhostRecon (Bob, pictured attached), contacted me and asked me to introduce one of my friends. I sent him a few pictures and he chose Miss L.

By his own admission, in his 120822 message #5581:

"Jockey hooked me up with a very sweet girls last night. ".

Indeed, Miss l is a nursing student, who goes out very seldom, but at my request, the holiday season and my guarantee that she would get a given amount, she agreed to go out with him.

I sent Bob a specific agreement for 90 min, amount and what she would and would not do to which he agreed and he agreed so a day was set and he saw Miss L.

After she left, she told me that he had only given her 2/3 of the agreed upon amount and that she was embarrassed to ask him for the difference. Since I promised her an amount, I had to give her the difference myself.

When I asked him why, he told me that he had only chosen 1 hour instead of 90 min despite that she stayed beyond the 90 min she was committed to and his acceptance of the previously sent agreement.

When I showed him our chat and what he had agreed to, he was outraged, that I would accuse him of "shortchanging her" and that he had never done that in his life and that he had chosen (unilaterally) only for 1 hour, that he would not pay for all the time "she spent talking" and that he would report me to Jackson. After a long chat showing him our previous chat and her comments, he finally agreed to send her the difference.

She sent him her bank account number but he has not made a deposit to this day. I contacted him twice but he has not answered me anymore which indicates to me that he would not honor his promise.

My only purpose in publishing this unfortunate incident is to make sure that anyone who is contacted by Bob for introductions, be aware.

Later.

Very good post backed up with facts. I too have given referrals and have been burned.

[FlyerTwo]

Sorry for the late report. First time visitor to Peru. Stayed in Lima for three days. Thank you for all the prior contributors' help and suggestions.

First day stayed in Miraflores at J&A Classic. Nice room and restaurant, lobby security, but no issue with sending a guest up. Used PK for photo verified prospects. Melany visited, tall Vennie, nice treatment.

Spent next two days in Lince. Never really saw SWs as depicted by YT videos. Perhaps I was out too early in the evening. Stayed at the Royal Garden Hotel, and I recommend their spa bath double room. Clean, mid-level but not deluxe. Met PK Lucia, again a pretty and young Vennie with smiling service. Two other PK Vennie agency picks were marginal and not worth mentioning. VFM OK, nothing exceptional.

Trip highlight was an outstanding two hour visit from a petite beauty from Geisha Academy. Yes, more costly than others, but you get what you pay for.

I wanted the whole Jacuzzi, tantra chair experience, but only found short stay hotels in the area. Seems taking a 4-6 hour room and trying to schedule a visit would be taking a big chance on disappointment.

Hope to return in a few months. Can anyone recommend these rooms / hotels for overnights for a multi-day stay?