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  1. #12136
    Quote Originally Posted by CheckMate1  [View Original Post]
    "Which is why the First Amendment must be enforced upon them for it to have any meaning. ".

    Spin it how you want, to advocate that a government throw a person in jail; or company in jail for publishing or not publishing opinions, thoughts, facts, is against the 1st Amendment you are fighting to protect.

    You are advocating that the GOVERNMENT forces certain businesses to publish stuff on their website, and that they can not regulate themselves.
    Nobody need be thrown in jail. As Big Tech are platforms not publishers according to Section 230, large fines can be levied on them, increasing steeply with each infraction. Soon these fines will reach tens or hundreds of millions. If they are unpaid, the platform itself will be seized by the government, as is the case with a house on which fees and taxes are unpaid for a long period of time, and will be auctioned off to a new owner.

    I'm confident that the owners of Big Tech would rather ensure First Amendment rights than potentially face hundreds of millions in fines and the ultimate loss of their platforms.

    Alternatively, they may forego Section 230 protections, declare themselves publishers, and leave themselves open to legal action over anything written or said on them.

    What they cannot keep doing is pretending to be neutral platforms while censoring and pushing woke Globohomo leftist Agenda.

  2. #12135
    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisP  [View Original Post]
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...on-appeal.html

    "Cole, 18, said she was coerced into taking puberty blockers and having both breasts surgically removed when she was 15, and warned of other minors being misdiagnosed and pushed into similar operations. "

    Faced with the factual reality above, do you withdraw your previous comment?
    If that family was deceived by the physician, they should sue the hell out of that doctor.

    What is convoluted about this discussion is using buzz words to make a point. "Genital Mutulations".

    Total (mastectomy with prior gender dysphoria diagnosis) is 282 between age 13-17 in 2021. https://www.reuters.com/investigates...ansyouth-data/ Under subtitle "Top Surgeries".

    Total number of breast augmentation between age 13-19 in 2020 is 3233 https://www.plasticsurgery.org/docum...13-19-2020.pdf.

    No 2021 data, and the age is 2 years of "adulthood" so that will skewed the data. Assuming 90% are between 18-19, you still have over 300 underage augmentations. This is why artificial creating crisis usinging buzz words is so bad. It isn't about genital mutulations, it is about elected surgeries that people get. Parental consents before adult age is how these surgeries are legally performed.

    As for people who regret that they had surgeries, LIFE decisions are very important.

  3. #12134
    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisP  [View Original Post]
    Firstly, the FBI knew perfectly well it had nothing to do with Russia. Your suggestion that the poor, helpless, hapless little FBI had no idea what was going on is entirely laughable. The feds had had the laptop for some time and were certain that it was authentic, as we all now know. That they hid this fact for political reasons is one of the reasons the organization needs to be disbanded.

    Secondly, yes, the fact is that information distribution has become so dominated by Twitter, Facebook and Google that if those organizations collude (with, disgracefully, the politicized FBI) to ban and block something it has little chance of getting out to the wider public. They are the new public square. Which is why the First Amendment must be enforced upon them for it to have any meaning.
    "That they hid this fact for political reasons is one of the reasons the organization needs to be disbanded. ".

    You said reasons, what are the others?

    "Which is why the First Amendment must be enforced upon them for it to have any meaning. ".

    Spin it how you want, to advocate that a government throw a person in jail; or company in jail for publishing or not publishing opinions, thoughts, facts, is against the 1st Amendment you are fighting to protect.

    You are advocating that the GOVERNMENT forces certain businesses to publish stuff on their website, and that they can not regulate themselves.

  4. #12133

    Oops. Long-awaited swing and a miss

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisP  [View Original Post]
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...on-appeal.html

    "Cole, 18, said she was coerced into taking puberty blockers and having both breasts surgically removed when she was 15, and warned of other minors being misdiagnosed and pushed into similar operations. "

    Faced with the factual reality above, do you withdraw your previous comment?
    "They kind of watered it down", said a girl who voluntarily chose breast removal at age 15 and that is your long, long, long researched evidence that some mysterious group is targeting children with tranny propaganda then chopping their dicks and tits off?

    Seriously?

    "They are literally chopping off the private parts of young kids." - Said Mega Liar Donald Trump wannabe Ron DeSantis.

    MOSTLY FALSE.

    https://www.politifact.com/factcheck...ens-not-young/

    We found no examples of "young kids" receiving transition-related surgery. The Florida Department of Health differentiates between children - under 10 - and adolescents - between 10 and 18. DeSantis' office provided PolitiFact with two cases involving adolescents.
    ....
    That is not true under any existing medical guidelines," said Dr. Jack Turban, assistant professor of child and adolescent psychiatry at the University of California, San Francisco. "No medical or surgical interventions are considered for prepubertal children."

    The governor's office sent PolitiFact two examples of people who received transition-related surgeries in their mid to late teenage years one at 15 and one at 17. DeSantis' Florida Department of Health differentiates between children (under 10) and adolescents (10-18).
    BTW, what is a baby?

  5. #12132
    Quote Originally Posted by EihTooms  [View Original Post]
    Insanity ought to be redefined to include you thinking any such legislation, law or government supported movement is doing what your fever dream nightmares apparently conjured up all on their own.
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...on-appeal.html

    "Cole, 18, said she was coerced into taking puberty blockers and having both breasts surgically removed when she was 15, and warned of other minors being misdiagnosed and pushed into similar operations. "

    Faced with the factual reality above, do you withdraw your previous comment?

  6. #12131

    The definition of insanity expanded

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisP  [View Original Post]
    Not really. The word "lover" can be used by men or women. Rather different from targeting children with tranny propaganda then chopping their dicks and tits off.

    But given your, ahem, "fluid" stance on this matter, I'm starting to realize why you decided to live in Thailand. No hate here buddy. You do you. Just leave the kids out of it.
    Insanity ought to be redefined to include you thinking any such legislation, law or government supported movement is doing what your fever dream nightmares apparently conjured up all on their own.

    Here's a better questiion that actually pertains to real legislation and real laws and a real movement that authoritarian Big Big Big Government wingers want to force upon real people;.

    What is a baby?

  7. #12130
    Quote Originally Posted by JustTK  [View Original Post]
    There are several definitions.
    No, a definition is definitive. A woman is an adult female. Period. And a rose by any other name is still a rose.

    Quote Originally Posted by JustTK  [View Original Post]
    My own opinion is that a woman is a person that believes they are a woman
    Belief should have nothing to do with definitions, and the notion an adult female and adult male who thinks they are a woman are the same is insane. Trans men need a name, and they can pick whatever name they want to call themselves, but woman is off limits.

    The problem with when you go fooling around with existing definitions of words is tyranny is so easily accomplished. When words and definitions are subjected to opinion, the value of law is quickly eroded, and tyranny is all but ensured.

  8. #12129
    Quote Originally Posted by EihTooms  [View Original Post]
    Biologically, sure, why not?

    Are you really so confused, aggrieved and aggravated over what to do about pronouns in the English language that it has turned your world view upside down and inside out?

    Poor thing. Do you know that the word for boyfriend and girlfriend is the same in the Thai language?

    If you lived here you might have needed to be talked down off the ledge several times by now over just that one issue.
    Not really. The word "lover" can be used by men or women. Rather different from targeting children with tranny propaganda then chopping their dicks and tits off.

    But given your, ahem, "fluid" stance on this matter, I'm starting to realize why you decided to live in Thailand. No hate here buddy. You do you. Just leave the kids out of it.

  9. #12128
    Quote Originally Posted by JustTK  [View Original Post]
    There are several definitions.
    LOL.

    Quote Originally Posted by JustTK  [View Original Post]
    My own opinion is that a woman is a person that believes they are a woman
    Believes they are a what? That is a circular definition.

    Quote Originally Posted by JustTK  [View Original Post]
    and is not a man that is certified as insane.
    The fact that a man thinks he is a woman or vice versa defines him or her as insane. This insanity was called gender dysphoria and was recognised till a few years ago when Globohomo Swamp ZOG Clownworld got their fangs into the American Psychiatric Association and forced them to change it from "mental illness" to "stunning and brave".

    But I must admit, this is why I prefer JustTK to the standard dem douches. They will obfuscate and avoid the question because they know how ridiculous their leftist dogma looks. JustTK answers honestly, regardless how wacky.

    Anyway, I'll leave it to Troy McClure to explain reality on this matter:
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  10. #12127

    Get a grip

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisP  [View Original Post]
    Do you accept the definition of "woman" as "adult human female"? A simple yes or no will do.
    Biologically, sure, why not?

    Are you really so confused, aggrieved and aggravated over what to do about pronouns in the English language that it has turned your world view upside down and inside out?

    Poor thing. Do you know that the word for boyfriend and girlfriend is the same in the Thai language?

    If you lived here you might have needed to be talked down off the ledge several times by now over just that one issue.

  11. #12126
    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisP  [View Original Post]
    You didn't answer the question. What is a woman?
    There are several definitions. My own opinion is that a woman is a person that believes they are a woman, and is not a man that is certified as insane. Similar definition for a man. That leaves some grey area, and these would be non-binary. Or certified insane.

  12. #12125
    Quote Originally Posted by JustTK  [View Original Post]
    I thought you had that one figured out Chris? Or did the butt-sex talk confuse you?
    Lots of interesting points here Chris:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmbfS6DsvNo

  13. #12124

    Hand in hand and down the hatch

    Quote Originally Posted by Spidy  [View Original Post]
    More from the DVS (Dominion Voting Systems) lawsuit proceedings...

    On Nov 8th, 2020, Maria Bartiromo, had Trump's lawyer Sidney Powell on as a guest, to share her earth shattering evidence on how the election was stolen. Turns out, the night before Sidney Powell forwarded an email to Ms. Bartiromo, from her "source", the person who she based her gigantic claims of election fraud on.

    Now get this, in the email, Sidney Powell's loony, nutjob, cuckoo bananas source, claims she got the the information from "the wind", as she explains:

    "It's more like time-travel in a semi-conscious state ... The Wind tells me ... I'm a ghost" and that "I was in a car accident in 1992 ... I was internally decapitated ... and yet, I continue to walk the earth."

    Meet the Ghost Woman Fox Relied on for Voter Fraud Claims
    https://www.thedailybeast.com/meet-t...r-fraud-claims

    This is the right-wing lunacy, bonkers, nutjob and banana republic, the Repubs have turned into and it won't matter who the fuck is driving this short bus.
    The RePutinKlan Party is all about State Run Media.

    While he was pressuring Twitter to self-censor negative tweets about him, so-called president Trump was also literally directing the Fake News Bullshit shoveled down the open, eager and accepting throats of Fux News' winger viewers:

    Trump would make aides call Fox to complain about poor coverage and get them to fix it, ex-press secretary says

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-b2299150.html

    "We did work hand in hand with Fox News. And that came at the president's direction," she said. "If he didnt like something, we would immediately call Fox and have them fix it or try to make a news story out of it."

  14. #12123

    Donnie is

    A dumbass.

    To show you have absolutely dumb he is, now he's blaming Mike Pence for January 6th because if Mike had gone along with Donnie's cockamamie plan there would have been no violence. https://news.yahoo.com/trump-blames-...221444807.html.

    The really sad part is that many charter members of the moron brigade ALREADY FEEL THIS WAY.

  15. #12122
    Quote Originally Posted by Elvis2008  [View Original Post]
    In short, why was LE seeing if people were violating Twitter's terms of service versus being concerned with people actually breaking the law? Isn't people breaking the law what LE is all about? That was something a Republican Congressman asked these two "so called journalists". The journalists were asked if there was anything about breaking the law or illegal activity that was seen? And the answer was the government agencies never mentioned illegal activity in all their requests.
    Real law enforcement, ie locally elected sheriffs directly answerable to the people in their district, are indeed concerned with people breaking the law. Unfortunately, the FBI and the rest of the alphabet agencies are not law enforcement; they are Swamp defenders.

    Their purpose is to protect The Agenda (open borders / Great Replacement, faggotry, feminism, anti-white hate, anti-Christian hate, rigged mail-in "elections", etc: we all know the drill by now). This is why they must be disbanded.

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