Safe Sex and Sex Related Discussions in Thailand

[GerryGa]

Look I've been bare backing for over 50 years, right. Never had a problem never expect to. Covered sex is useless vanilla sex for pussies, we lads know what real sex is right and how to get it right. Sure, the fear mongers will tell you it's risky, a danger to your health but so what, its minimal and I'm willing to take that risk, as its my god given right. So what if I might be asymptomatic with say gonorrhea or chlamydia and pass on the infection. Some of us get tested regular some of us don't, no big deal. Some of us have had vasectomies most of us haven't. So what if a girl gets pregnant, she should know better right. Some of us concentrate on the "off the bus" newbies, easy pickings for an experienced dude, a few tequilas, some good times pussy play, get them all hot and bothered, all lust and heat and she can't stop herself. It's natural right. You know she loves it bareback and will be back again the next day for more. With some you got to put in more time but that's part of the fun, right, the chase, right. So what's the big hullaballoo, I'm having a good time, that's all that matters right.

[Sky Ryder]

Probably very few indeed. I'm a condom guy but have on rare occasions over my decades of mongering, not wrapped, and considering the number of times I've contracted something from a slip up, I'd say it's very unlikely that folks who BB all the time can avoid getting an STI on occasion.

I'm also amazed that older folks, I'm no spring chicken myself, are willing to risk getting an sti, because as you get older the chances of it affecting your prostate are much greater. Any infection or irritation in the urinary tract once you're over 50 can present a problem. While I still engage in BBBJ, the main event is always wrapped.

To start, I will say that I have never had BB anal sex. Everyone has to make their own decisions, but for that to happen, it would have to be with someone that I had a reasonable expectation of exclusivity and extensive prior preparation. So not likely to happen in the P4 P world.

As far as BB vaginal sex, I will admit that I have had three cases in about 5+ decades of active sex, the first was at age 19 and was with the second working lady I was ever with. The last time was more than ten years ago. One case of the clap, and two cases of the non-specific type. I don't have a checklist, however am pretty fastidious about pre and post hygiene protocols. As age has increased the lack of sensitivity when using a cover is more pronounced, which I will admit is a factor in my decision process. I have also adjusted my expectations and try to be more holistic when it comes to the actual act of sex. As silly as it sounds, I do make a special effort to take in the sight of a younger, lithe, lady moving in rhythm with me, the curves of her body, the feeling of her skin, the way it feels to hold her ass in my hands if we are in doggy or her hips if it is cowgirl. All the sounds and surroundings if they are special all add to the very pleasant memories that last much longer than the "money shot". Twenty years ago, these things would be a passing notion most times as I went to search for the next opportunity.

I do not plan to eliminate BB from my repertoire, but will continue to make "informed" decisions. Is it a risk, certainly, but one I accept if I wish to participate in this activity.

Only my opinion.

Sky.

[Falcon 95]

Like you, I also have never caught any disease, bug or virus from sex in all my mongering years which by now number roughly 45+ with easily 2000+ different bareback sex partners. Not bragging. It should have been more. LOL.

What you say is statistically impossible. It has nothing to do with luck, like you claim.

[EihTooms]

Probably very few indeed. I'm a condom guy but have on rare occasions over my decades of mongering, not wrapped, and considering the number of times I've contracted something from a slip up, I'd say it's very unlikely that folks who BB all the time can avoid getting an STI on occasion.

I'm also amazed that older folks, I'm no spring chicken myself, are willing to risk getting an sti, because as you get older the chances of it affecting your prostate are much greater. Any infection or irritation in the urinary tract once you're over 50 can present a problem. While I still engage in BBBJ, the main event is always wrapped.

I envy you for being able to feel pleasurable sensation enough to keep it up and achieve an orgasm while wearing a condom. I have only managed to do that once since I first had sex at 19. I think it was when I was 21 or 22, don't really remember the year.

That includes trying a dozen different condoms with all the recommended lubes inside, outside and all around them over the years. My most recent test run with a condom was 2-3 years ago with a top-rated and highly recommended lamb skin condom that was touted to be as close to bareback as possible because it is so natural, thin and porous. Consequently, it only protected against pregnancy, probably not necessary for me having gotten a vasectomy, and did nothing to prevent STI / STDs. Said so right on the package. But at least it was a condom.

Still a no go for me. The damage done to my half erect dick from all that accordian squeeze action on it after she finished her cowgirl ride was bad enough to keep me out of action for 5 days while it healed.

I am 70 years old now.

I think the likelihood of someone revealing they got an STI / STD here is fairly high considering we are essentially anonymous except among the few of us who have met in person or have communicated elsewhere.

I think it is even more likely that pro condom crusaders would capitalize on the anonimity to make up a scary story about getting a horrible dose of something as a "for the greater good" tactic.

[ThaiGoodTimes]

Probably very few indeed. I'm a condom guy but have on rare occasions over my decades of mongering, not wrapped, and considering the number of times I've contracted something from a slip up, I'd say it's very unlikely that folks who BB all the time can avoid getting an STI on occasion.

I'm also amazed that older folks, I'm no spring chicken myself, are willing to risk getting an sti, because as you get older the chances of it affecting your prostate are much greater. Any infection or irritation in the urinary tract once you're over 50 can present a problem. While I still engage in BBBJ, the main event is always wrapped.

It is a lottery for sure, Goatscrot, but it is one where you can swing the odds to favour you.

No lies, no BS, in 10 years plus of BB mongering in Thailand, the only thing I have caught was scabies.

And that is passed just from body to body contact, so a condom would not have helped.

[Goatscrot]

How many guys on here are actually going to be truthful and say they caught some sort of disease from BBFS or BB anal?

Probably very few indeed. I'm a condom guy but have on rare occasions over my decades of mongering, not wrapped, and considering the number of times I've contracted something from a slip up, I'd say it's very unlikely that folks who BB all the time can avoid getting an STI on occasion.

I'm also amazed that older folks, I'm no spring chicken myself, are willing to risk getting an sti, because as you get older the chances of it affecting your prostate are much greater. Any infection or irritation in the urinary tract once you're over 50 can present a problem. While I still engage in BBBJ, the main event is always wrapped.

[ThaiGoodTimes]

Over the last couple of years it has been getting more and more difficult for me to use a condom. Now, I almost always pre-arrange for BBFSCIP and still have about 10% to 20% who refuse or squawk about it in the room. If they refuse, I send them away, usually without money. The few times that I don't pre-arrange BBFSCIP, I have about 50% success rate of getting it. The other 50% I end up with just a BBBJ or just a HJ.

Immediately after my session, I always wash thoroughly and piss. I had a nasty case of the clap in 2006 but have been fine since then.

I understand and get where you are coming at this from.

But I very very rarely prearrange or discuss BB before leaving for the room, and never discuss CIP.

I feel that doing so and getting agreement would end up with me being with the girls that would do it, and do it often and easily.

And they are not the girls that afterwards I would feel safe doing it with.

When I do discuss it, it is always in a lighthearted way after the girl that has raised using a condom later.

As I said, I want her to want to use a condom, then I want her to allow it as no condom with me, as special.

OK now, go for me, as being delusional of it being only me, LOL.

But remember, I am chasing newbies, so even if it is not just men she does it with, she hasn't got a long time in bar history of BB.

And yes, she could probably have been fucking bareback back home in the village rampantly.

Tho again, that type is not what I seek out, I seek out the quieter ones.

Most of the girls I choose are more scared about getting pregnant.

A concern I easily overcome as I had a vasectomy 35 years ago.

[MohdirFan82]

I recently contracted Chlamydia in Philippines, and even used condom with almost all my encounters.

However never had contracted STD in Thailand.

How many guys on here are actually going to be truthful and say they caught some sort of disease from BBFS or BB anal?

[HorseTrader]

90% of the girls I bang are BB.

I rarely don't do BB, as I don't choose to bang the ones that won't.

Am I bragging in saying that?

I don't think so, as I'm not alone in that success rate.

Over the last couple of years it has been getting more and more difficult for me to use a condom. Now, I almost always pre-arrange for BBFSCIP and still have about 10% to 20% who refuse or squawk about it in the room. If they refuse, I send them away, usually without money. The few times that I don't pre-arrange BBFSCIP, I have about 50% success rate of getting it. The other 50% I end up with just a BBBJ or just a HJ.

Immediately after my session, I always wash thoroughly and piss. I had a nasty case of the clap in 2006 but have been fine since then.

[Banana Boi]

How many guys on here are actually going to be truthful and say they caught some sort of disease from BBFS or BB anal?

[Detwing1]

In my experience, it is just as likely that cute dental assistant who shared so much fabulous chemistry with me on our first dinner date after meeting her in the dental office that we were locked at the nether region bareback in her living room before we kicked off our shoes had that much chemistry or more with 5 other dental patients earlier in the week. Meanwhile, the Soi 4 street girl who agrees to BBFSCIP before I even finish the question might have agreed to it with me only because she has observed and singled me out in the area as a pretty good candidate for long term repeat income and otherwise says no to it.

100% spot on.

[ThaiGoodTimes]

A 90% success rate in getting BBFSCIP is easy to achieve if, as you do and as I do, we essentially screen the candidates for their likelihood of agreeing to it with us before we commit to taking them. I would not see that as bragging.

However, Horse Trader said, "if someone says they banged 90% of the girls in Pattaya and each one was bareback, I would consider that bragging and that post is a nuisance."

And that isn't the same thing as what we claim.

Like you, I also have never caught any disease, bug or virus from sex in all my mongering years which by now number roughly 45+ with easily 2000+ different bareback sex partners. Not bragging. It should have been more. LOL.

I did have one easily treatable case of trichamoniasis in my pre mongering years at about age 21. From a sweet regular girlfriend I met in college. Not a prostitute.

I really can't say I diligently avoided girls who "openly and easily give it away. " Honestly, I'm not even sure what that is supposed to look and sound like.

In my experience, it is just as likely that cute dental assistant who shared so much fabulous chemistry with me on our first dinner date after meeting her in the dental office that we were locked at the nether region bareback in her living room before we kicked off our shoes had that much chemistry or more with 5 other dental patients earlier in the week. Meanwhile, the Soi 4 street girl who agrees to BBFSCIP before I even finish the question might have agreed to it with me only because she has observed and singled me out in the area as a pretty good candidate for long term repeat income and otherwise says no to it.

Also, I am sure I have had bareback sex with hundreds of women, pro and non pro, who go bareback with every man they date or customer they session with as well as hundreds who are nit picky selective about it. Yet my 45+ year record of bareback mongering without a bug still stands. So I can't say it is because I am so brilliant about choosing well. Lucky, maybe. Brilliant, no.

IMO, 45 years blemish free is not just luck, there is clearly a bit of thought, brilliance even there, in selection.

[EihTooms]

Hmmmm.

But.

BUt.

BUT.

90% of the girls I bang are BB.

I rarely don't do BB, as I don't choose to bang the ones that won't.

Am I bragging in saying that?

I don't think so, as I'm not alone in that success rate.

Be I banging arounf my known traps in Rawai, or when traveling in say Bangkok or Hua Hin.

How do I get so much BB?.

A 90% success rate in getting BBFSCIP is easy to achieve if, as you do and as I do, we essentially screen the candidates for their likelihood of agreeing to it with us before we commit to taking them. I would not see that as bragging.

However, Horse Trader said, "if someone says they banged 90% of the girls in Pattaya and each one was bareback, I would consider that bragging and that post is a nuisance."

And that isn't the same thing as what we claim.

Like you, I also have never caught any disease, bug or virus from sex in all my mongering years which by now number roughly 45+ with easily 2000+ different bareback sex partners. Not bragging. It should have been more. LOL.

I did have one easily treatable case of trichamoniasis in my pre mongering years at about age 21. From a sweet regular girlfriend I met in college. Not a prostitute.

I really can't say I diligently avoided girls who "openly and easily give it away. " Honestly, I'm not even sure what that is supposed to look and sound like.

In my experience, it is just as likely that cute dental assistant who shared so much fabulous chemistry with me on our first dinner date after meeting her in the dental office that we were locked at the nether region bareback in her living room before we kicked off our shoes had that much chemistry or more with 5 other dental patients earlier in the week. Meanwhile, the Soi 4 street girl who agrees to BBFSCIP before I even finish the question might have agreed to it with me only because she has observed and singled me out in the area as a pretty good candidate for long term repeat income and otherwise says no to it.

Also, I am sure I have had bareback sex with hundreds of women, pro and non pro, who go bareback with every man they date or customer they session with as well as hundreds who are nit picky selective about it. Yet my 45+ year record of bareback mongering without a bug still stands. So I can't say it is because I am so brilliant about choosing well. Lucky, maybe. Brilliant, no.

[ThaiGoodTimes]

I shouldn't bother but ok, It never fails to amaze me how much traction nonsense posts get on the forum from seemingly otherwise smart members. You got to know when you're being played. Yes BB is readily available hereabouts but only if you put the time and effort in but no way is it standard practice on the part of the girls. Secondly this guy cares about his health but only goes BB most of the time. Enough said.

Hehehe GG.

The nonsense post IMO was the earlier one that I replied to about bragging.

Was I playing you?

Well actually no, not at all.

You said "you need to put the time and effort in. " and I partially agree with you on that.

It is correct, but just as often, you can put in the time or the effort.

I have used the effort, more like the understanding, knowledge and approach, and achieved it in a single first session,.

Whilst other times, when I have the time, I ave deliberately let it come slowly, progressing to it over a few sessions.

And I can assure you I do care about my health, and still practice BB very very very often.

I have lived in Thailand, and mongered consistently for 7 years now, having done so before that as a frequent visitor for five or so years.

My friends, who follow my activities from outside Thailand call me Houdini, as I've never (yet) caught anything.

I go BB as its actually more natural, with more sensation to both parties involved, and hence generates more involvement, more passion, more GFE if you want to say that.

I guess I'm different to a lot of the mongers on here who are consistently sprouting on about "bad" Thai working women.

I guess the ones they choose and find are, because that's how they are also perceived by the good ones, as bad, and hence also to be avoided.

The "ladydrink" discussion on spending or not spending is a key point in this.

It differentiates to the working girls easily the monger who just wants to fuck, to use them as a receptacle.

And for sure the bad working girls use ladydrinks against you, if you let them do so.

But it's a game, it's always been a game, but it is one were both parties can win.

You have to know the odds, play the game, take the risks, learn from your losses, know when to cut and run, and when to go all in for the prize.

Enough replied.

Happy mongering, or as I call it punting.

P.S. My Phuket thread is quiet, so I have time to bother you big boys here with my "wisdom".

[GerryGa]

Could you clarify? Are you saying that you pick girls who don't look like they would BB, but then convince them to do BB?

I shouldn't bother but ok, It never fails to amaze me how much traction nonsense posts get on the forum from seemingly otherwise smart members. You got to know when you're being played. Yes BB is readily available hereabouts but only if you put the time and effort in but no way is it standard practice on the part of the girls. Secondly this guy cares about his health but only goes BB most of the time. Enough said.