Pattaya Reports

[Bunky]

I finally got around to taking a deeper dive into Soi 6 and my takeaway is relevant to posts about this drink only crap. . . . It makes me wonder if the main type of punter is content buying rack after rack of shots for random Isaan girls while pretending to enjoy Connect Four. I mean did you guys know that we used to have an expectation that these girls would be fucking us? That was the main point of Soi 6. . . . I hope you like Connect 4 and competing with Koreans for who can waste the most money on girls that are never going to have sex with you.

As usual, Mr. Sopheni's analysis is both trenchant and well written. Thanks to him for taking the time to post.

I think we can all agree the girls and the bars are very clever about doing the absolute minimum that they can get away with, while still making enough money to get by. In theory the customers control this. Back In The Day, the clientele was homogeneous in their demographics and demands. (This was especially true of the ex-pats.) They knew what they wanted, they knew the going rate and they would brook no sass. The folks on Soi Six might have been able to get over every now and then at the margin. (Usually when a drunk guy settled for an experience he didn't really want, or a girl that fell short of his spec.) But by and large, the girls and the bar owners knew the score and met the demands of their regular clientele.

I realize that this isn't an original thought, but I think the internet spoiled the fun. The number of guys who knew about Soi Six increased exponentially, and some fraction of them found their way to the bars in person. These customers were a very diverse lot. Lots of them didn't know how Soi Six was "supposed" to work. Lots of them knew, but didn't care. Eventually the girls and the bar owners discovered there were customers who were willing to pay FAR above the going rate for sex. (And as Mr. Sopheni laments, willing to settle for the sexual equivalent of a "short pour.") There were also new customers who were happy to pay Soi Six prices for sex-adjacent services. And there were even guys who were happy to just sit and drink with their mates. Perhaps the Soi Six vibe was enough entertainment for them. Perhaps some of them were part of that younger generation of guys who seem less interested in sex. Who knows?

It really doesn't matter. Because the girls and the bar owners are a clever adversary. They work on Soi Six every single day. As the naughty boys come and go, they have become adept at sussing out how to extract maximum money for minimum sex. So long as the demographics of the patrons continues to expand, so long as their demands for sex continue to drop, the folks who run Soi Six and who work there are going to charge more money for less naughty.

Bunky

[Paolo99]

Nevertheless it was a real PITA to make an appointment with one of them. Some of the girls I contacted did not reply anymore after we had exchanged some messages, or they replied after 30 minutes or even more. In the meantime I had already contacted another girl.

Exactly the reason I deleted my account on this app. Most of these girls are full of shit and it's a pain in the ass to find a few doables anyway, really not worth the effort for a 1 month (or less) trip.

[Chan Chalupa]

One of my regulars came over for drinks this afternoon and was unusually kissy. Since she has a Thai husband and a full time Farang customer, I knew something was up.

Sure enough, after an hour or so, she asked to borrow 3,000 baht.

I told her the ATM was closed, and soon after, sent her home (because another lady was coming soon).

Did you pay her 2,000. Then she ask to Borrow 3 k?

[Jimmy Boy 99]

This might be the way to go. I mean it's how it works in a GC. Anyone else try this before?

I never buy a lady drink. I just discuss what I want in the session and the cost and go to the room or leave.

[Chan Chalupa]

This might be the way to go. I mean it's how it works in a GC. Anyone else try this before?

Yes.

I think all this Hate against Koreans spending Gobs of money in WS agogos is false rage.

We're any of you Barfining in these places Pre. Covid?

Nothing's changed Outrageous Barfine s kept me from going all in then and it's still same same for me now.

Let it go Fellas.

[RakSopheni]

And that is why if I plan to fuck then I just walk up and say lets go boom boom. It is point and shoot. No need for questions .

This might be the way to go. I mean it's how it works in a GC. Anyone else try this before?

[Paolo99]

The girls that I finally do get upstairs often seem strangely inexperienced and expecting vanilla condom only missionary, doggy, cum inside condom sex. This is not how I roll. Sometimes it's hard for me to believe that none of you have initiated these girls into the wonderful world of things like deepthroat and cum in mouth, cum in pussy- but this is what the girls are claiming. It makes me wonder if mongers such as myself are the minority in Pattaya and the main type of punter is content buying rack after rack of shots for random Isaan girls while pretending to enjoy connect 4. I mean did you guys know that we used to have an expectation that these girls would be fucking us? That was the main point of Soi 6.

There is a constant turn-over in that soi. Girls come and go pretty quickly for diverse reasons it seems. Nightwish seems to be the most powerfull force to bring new girls in, their touts are doing a good job of attracting new talent over facebook or instagram. But it seems that many of them are thrown in without a proper understanding of what they have to do to succeed. Inevitably a lot of them quit after a few weeks or months because they didn't expect it to be that hard (they cannot succeed in making their drink quotas, they are not able to learn English, don't like to have sex with random guys or whatever else reasons). That's why so many of them are inexperienced or "drink only". The ones able to make it are the cuties that relate only on drinks, and the average looking ones who learned to be patient and learned how to sip drinks from customers from time to time and probably get a few regulars, plus the freelancers who rely almost exclusively on ST and LT (maybe you need to meet some of these to get a better sex experience).

Otherwise, I hope you like Connect 4 and competing with Koreans for who can waste the most money on girls that are never going to have sex with you.

After one drink (or even before as stated by other members) we should be able to know if the girl is going to go upstairs or not, and cut our losses early if it's not the case.

[Paolo99]

I agree that most ladies seem to be desperate for customers. Never ever before have I received so many likes and mails in Thai Friendly in my first 24 hours in town. It was unbelievable. It already started when the bus from Bangkok had barely reached the city limits, around 1 PM. And it went on and on. By midnight I had dozens of them.
Of course more than half of the ladies were too old, too ugly, too heavy, too skinny, too 'photo shopped', or any combination of those, as usual. But there were plenty of nice options in the other half, with girls ranging from 18 to 35 yo (my target group), and with quite a lot of 7's and 8's.

Sweet girl with a flawless body, a lovely round little butt, no tattoos, and a tight pussy. She saved my day.

If you take TF likes and messages as a sign of girls being desperate you are going to keep on having bad surprises.

Unless you go for junkies and uglies or oldies, it's hard to find a decent looking girl being desperate in Pattaya at the moment.

[Mr Enternational]

I will buy one round of drinks to test the waters. After slogging through 3 rounds or so of "testing the waters" drinks I will generally find a girl to my liking, but this is a lot of money and time wasted. I mean did you guys know that we used to have an expectation that these girls would be fucking us?

And that is why if I plan to fuck then I just walk up and say lets go boom boom. It is point and shoot. No need for questions and no need for drinks.

I don't necessarily enjoy talking one more time about where I'm from, how long I'm staying, blah blah.

Went and met up with a Thai Friendly chick the other night that works in a Treetown bar. She was telling me that she gets as tired of asking that same shit as you get tired of hearing it.

The other day driving down Soi Pothole I see a chick I used to fuck from Soi 6. I stop and talk to her and tell her I will send her a message later. When I got home and sent the message she did not respond until hours later. I went up to the bar later to buy her a drink and ask her why she did not respond. She said when she gets to work the boss makes them put the cell phones away. I noticed it must have been the same at the other places on the street. Then I noticed the same in Treetown. Maybe guys in other threads that report their anger about going into bars just to see chicks on their phones need to make a trip to Pattaya.

[Mr Enternational]

Never ever before have I received so many likes and mails in Thai Friendly in my first 24 hours in town. It was unbelievable. It already started when the bus from Bangkok had barely reached the city limits, around 1 PM. And it went on and on. By midnight I had dozens of them.

A buddy of mine signed up the other day and his inbox was rocking. Problem is that he is an older guy and looks like he will never be able to keep up and be efficient with the process. I was showing him how the girl gives her Line then how he has to add her ID to his Line. It was taking him 15 minutes to just do that. So by the time he talks to a couple of chicks and he adds them to Line and they stop responding, he will have wasted an entire day.

It is a numbers game just like anything else. You assume the chicks are there and trying to get money, but even when they say it, they do not show it. Had a chick supposed to come yesterday after I was too busy for the last few days to see her. She said she would come in 1 hour. I said you need to be here in 15 minutes. She said ok. After 30 minutes she still had not left her house. Then when I call her on it she is going to tell me to fuck off as if she was doing me a favor.

If someone is ready to give you some money then you would think hey I am going to get there as quick as I can while the getting is good. But not these chicks. Just goes to show how true Neil Hutchison's books are. You are the last priority after the fleas on her dog's dick, no matter what you are trying to do for her.

Nevertheless it was a real PITA to make an appointment with one of them. Some of the girls I contacted did not reply anymore after we had exchanged some messages, or they replied after 30 minutes or even more. In the meantime I had already contacted another girl.
Then when I thought I had finally made an appointment with a really nice looking girl, she didn't confirm it.
So I made an appointment with another one, but she didn't show up and didn't even read my messages anymore!

The shit is like herding cats. Working within the system is pretty much second nature to me after all these years, and I do not hesitate to delete someone as quick as I added them.

P.S. Went and met up with a chick on there the other day who drives Bolt. The next day I asked her how work was going. She only had 2 fares from 2 pm to 10 pm.

[Mr Enternational]

I know several girls from a Gogo who focus on Koreans only for that reason. Why go LT with a farang for 3 K ex barfine if you can have a Korean who is willing to pay 10 k.

You speak as if that option presents itself daily in a predictable way. Like the girl shows up for work and knows she will have those 2 choices right in front of her. The girl is not shooing off the 3 K guy at 10 pm because she is sure the 10 K guy will be there at midnight.

[Mogwai]

There was a 3 day holiday this weekend, so Pattaya was jammed with visitors from Bangkok. And, the top tier venues like Windmill can be jammed even during Low Season.
But, most ladies are fairly desperate for customers. I went to Ban Chang and barfined a MILF who clearly hadn't been laid for a long time. We came back to Pattaya, and I barfined a second lady, who was herself pretty horny, although professionally so.

I agree that most ladies seem to be desperate for customers. Never ever before have I received so many likes and mails in Thai Friendly in my first 24 hours in town. It was unbelievable. It already started when the bus from Bangkok had barely reached the city limits, around 1 PM. And it went on and on. By midnight I had dozens of them.
Of course more than half of the ladies were too old, too ugly, too heavy, too skinny, too 'photo shopped', or any combination of those, as usual. But there were plenty of nice options in the other half, with girls ranging from 18 to 35 yo (my target group), and with quite a lot of 7's and 8's.

Nevertheless it was a real PITA to make an appointment with one of them. Some of the girls I contacted did not reply anymore after we had exchanged some messages, or they replied after 30 minutes or even more. In the meantime I had already contacted another girl.
Then when I thought I had finally made an appointment with a really nice looking girl, she didn't confirm it.
So I made an appointment with another one, but she didn't show up and didn't even read my messages anymore!
By that time it was 9:30 pm, and I was rather pissed because I prefer to have my sessions in the afternoon, or early evening at the latest.
But I had just received a 'like' from a cute 20 yo, a little spinner who ticked all my boxes. She replied instantly, asked 'only' 1500 (most of the girls were asking 2000), agreed on BBFS right away, and about 20 minutes later she was in my room. Now it is very much hit or miss with these young girls, in my experience, but this one was a definite hit. Sweet girl with a flawless body, a lovely round little butt, no tattoos, and a tight pussy. She saved my day.

[Explorer8939]

One of my regulars came over for drinks this afternoon and was unusually kissy. Since she has a Thai husband and a full time Farang customer, I knew something was up.

Sure enough, after an hour or so, she asked to borrow 3,000 baht.

I told her the ATM was closed, and soon after, sent her home (because another lady was coming soon).

[Paolo99]

I know several girls from a Gogo who focus on Koreans only for that reason. Why go LT with a farang for 3 K ex barfine if you can have a Korean who is willing to pay 10 k.

I'm not even sure they take these girls out on ST or LT.

Some of them like to blow the money in the gogo, that's for sure.

One night I was in Palace, 2 Koreans left empty handed with a 8 K bill just next to me. Another night in Iron, some of them were constantly ringing the bell and paying loads of tequila racks for random girls. Another night in Fahrenheit 2 guys were throwing 20 bahts bills and ping pong balls. They pay drinks for almost any girls that come and talk them. That's the primary reason girls are targeting them.

[Paolo99]

Pattaya Shocking Update.

Cheapest lady drink on Soi 6? Double digits? Where?

You'll save 50 baht per drink at best.

It seems that Nightwish bars are 150 baht, not the most expensive ones, BabyCool is 170 for example and it can depend on what the girl takes too.

When it comes to prices they do whatever they want (and the girls charge whatever they want to) regardless of the quality of the place, for example Playpen has the shittiest bed in the whole soi I guess, and yet they charge more than others (400 bahts).