I think it's the guys who go around talking about BBFS here and BBFS there in all these countries who do more damage. That gets guys in to a city much quicker than me posting stuff about certain 'secret' areas in Jakarta. If anyone ever noticed I will NEVER post about BBFS availability in any country.
As one guilty as charged of posting BBFS success stories, I feel compelled to point out that the above is simply not true. For example AO clubs in Germany have been well known for a long time where for 30 Euro you get BBFS. And yet when I went there the clubs were not packed and there was never another tourist besides me. All the tourists hung out in the main Frankfurt clubs. Similarly AC is well known for BBFS and has always been. Why then don't all the active participants on this board from all the other countries flock there? Do you go onto the Africa boards? There is tons of BBFS available all over Africa. Have you ventured there? Guys, first of all BBFS is available EVERYWHERE, if you know how to get it. Second, don't over inflate your own influence on global trends. Its effectively ZERO. And Third, people stick to what they know. I myself in 20+ years of mongering never went to Jakarta before this. Reports are for reading pleasure only. YMMV.
I bit Ironic then that the blabbers here are probably one of the things that will help spoil it the fastest. Talk about lemming like behaviour. Is Mr JSmith the only other one here that recognises that?. Discretion is probably the one thing that separates the hard core punters from the sex tourists when it comes to Indonesia.
I sure hope you're not calling me out as a blabber. Let me know if you are or are not.
I think this notion that Jakarta will suddenly become a Bangkok is silly. 2023 saw 160 K visitor to Jakarta. In the same time over 20 M visited Bangkok. Jakarta is not on anyones tourist radar.
Coincidentally I saw a chart on Facebook this morning with tourist stats for this year. IIRC I think it was 23 million to Thailand, not to Bangkok itself. Yes a large portion likely to Bangkok though. I think it was 6 million to Indonesia and yes most of those likely to Bali. I agree no one goes to Jakarta. Place is a dump with terrible traffic and an extra 3.5 hour plane ride no one wants to take from Thailand.
The number of people who read this Jakarta thread aren't going to make a difference. Now if I were posting this on a Japan, Korea, or China board then yes that could easily destroy Jakarta. I like the 365k price take in Jakarta as much as anyone else.
I think it's the guys who go around talking about BBFS here and BBFS there in all these countries who do more damage. That gets guys in to a city much quicker than me posting stuff about certain 'secret' areas in Jakarta. If anyone ever noticed I will NEVER post about BBFS availability in any country.
If everyone hid all information and were lurkers then why have ISG? I only post about 20% of what I know in these forums. Imagine if I posted everything?
I knew a few Indosat's engineers and managers who live in Jakarta, including one who married a hot Garuda's flight attendant,
They laugh about the air pollution, heavy floods with trash and feces floating with heavy rains, cars and motor bikes dead in flood water, brothels where they can bag girls for $5, may be less with recent exchange rates.
These guys are religious, really nice and mellow, but party, smoke, drink heavily and partake girls behind their wives' backs every chance. They want me to visit. Would be fun to hang with those guys.
Is the pope Catholics?? Let alone if you could bang his hot wife the Garuda's flight attendant, rofl
Bag girls for $5 ?? As matter of fact you MIGHT get it for free not just in Jakarta but anywhere in the world. But for this you will need to be lucky and in many cases you will need to meet some certain criteria. Ordinary people normally do not. All of the male pornstar are even getting paid to bang young hot looking girls.
I don't think girls are hurting and I don't necessarily think my experiences are the "norm" and everyone should expect that. Other members of our group had varying success rates with the BBFS. I generally have good success even in Thailand (like 75%) but not with girls as hot as the ones in Jakarta. I am also not cheap charlie. If a girl pleases me the way I want, I make sure she is happy. The girl I repeated with at Classic Spa was thrilled to see me again and then her friend felt safe also and the 3 some worked. Repeating at a location and having a good reputation there helps. The first 3 some in Classic Bar, the girls were new so maybe that helped also. Or maybe I am just charming them. LOL. Either way, worked well for me.
Yes Malio Cover 150 K (10 USD). I didn't check out other areas this time.
Just wonder, Did you take PreP regularly before engaging in BBFS and presumably CIP. ?? In some countries in Europe PreP is now available for free of charge, even for regular intake for those who could show reasons why they need them.
Can accept that line of reasoning and hopefully it plays out that way although an increase in bules is noticeable. What is hard is the one or two time visitors who suddenly become the go to authority here and constantly blab about the best places. Especially around BBFS. If there's ever a breakout of HIV or STI's you know who will get the blame and a big night of BB fun in Jakarta is one of life's great pleasures. That is worth preserving.
None of this detracts from your report, a quality read that will soon be buried amongst a lot of the burble that can go on here.
The negatives for Jakarta are real and will keep many away:
1. language barrier.
2. horrible traffic.
3. dreadful pollution.
4. as noted above, relatively inaccessible.
5. the venues are more or less 'underground', at least compared to Bangkok. It takes a little bit of work (not much) to find them.
I think Indonesia will remain a niche market for some time. And like you, Mr. OS and others, I hope it remains that way!
Hitting Jakarta in 2 weeks. Planning to visit the following places: Travel, Classic, Kota Indah, Malio club, Sugar Spa in North and BATS / CJ's in South, please correct me if I am wrong add more places if I missed out any. And how does one plan the mongering trip to max. Any scams / certain things I should be careful of. What is the best way to move around, grab! Thanks.
Truth is, many mongers in our hobby knows about Jakarta. So there is really no secrets for mongers.
It's more about comfort zone and habits more than anything else.
For most mongers, if they are use to a place and are repeat regulars, they often have an establish routine and built up Rolodex of girls. So why spend money on something uncertain when they already know what to expect. Some mongers are lucky as they live somewhat closer to Asia in general and can get much cheaper airfares to explore more places. I'm from Canada and it's not only expensive as f**k to book a ticket but the sometimes 20+ hrs travel with transfers to some Asian destinations will also drive you crazy. So many will not risk it and just go with tried and true.
Also, many prefer Philippines over all others as no language barrier and also liquor is cheap (for the drinkers).
As for me, I'm more the adventurous fellow so I'll go anywhere as long as its relatively safe (and cheap). I've done my tour of duty in a few shank ghetto slums in my time, got ripped off many times, had fun many times, got chased out a few times by pimps and mamas, but always in the pursuit of the mongers life.
I think this notion that Jakarta will suddenly become a Bangkok is silly. 2023 saw 160 K visitor to Jakarta. In the same time over 20 M visited Bangkok. Jakarta is not on anyones tourist radar. Its too far from the West, few will take a 24 hour flight from US or Europe to get there. It does get some Asian clientele but I didn't notice a lot of them. It doesn't have the direct flights and connections that Bangkok has. It doesn't have a thousand You Tubers walking around with cameras and pointing at girls. The red light districts while awesome, are indoors and doesn't spill onto the streets like on the Suk. With a few exceptions it is catering to the local market. Except at Malio, I saw no white people (except those in our group) at any of the venues. It may come under fire from the religious brigade but it won't be because of foreign sex tourists.
Can accept that line of reasoning and hopefully it plays out that way although an increase in bules is noticeable. What is hard is the one or two time visitors who suddenly become the go to authority here and constantly blab about the best places. Especially around BBFS. If there's ever a breakout of HIV or STI's you know who will get the blame and a big night of BB fun in Jakarta is one of life's great pleasures. That is worth preserving.
None of this detracts from your report, a quality read that will soon be buried amongst a lot of the burble that can go on here.
I bit Ironic then that the blabbers here are probably one of the things that will help spoil it the fastest. Talk about lemming like behaviour. Is Mr JSmith the only other one here that recognises that?. Discretion is probably the one thing that separates the hard core punters from the sex tourists when it comes to Indonesia.
I think this notion that Jakarta will suddenly become a Bangkok is silly. 2023 saw 160 K visitor to Jakarta. In the same time over 20 M visited Bangkok. Jakarta is not on anyones tourist radar. Its too far from the West, few will take a 24 hour flight from US or Europe to get there. It does get some Asian clientele but I didn't notice a lot of them. It doesn't have the direct flights and connections that Bangkok has. It doesn't have a thousand You Tubers walking around with cameras and pointing at girls. The red light districts while awesome, are indoors and doesn't spill onto the streets like on the Suk. With a few exceptions it is catering to the local market. Except at Malio, I saw no white people (except those in our group) at any of the venues. It may come under fire from the religious brigade but it won't be because of foreign sex tourists.
We all ask ourselves the same question after our first trip to Jakarta. I've been trying to get some guys to go sine 2017 but they're so stuck in their ways in PP and Thailand and are "afraid" to try somewhere new. I guess they'll figure it out in another few years when Jakarta becomes more popular. By then it'll be too late as it'll be another place where we look back at the good old days.
I bit Ironic then that the blabbers here are probably one of the things that will help spoil it the fastest. Talk about lemming like behaviour. Is Mr JSmith the only other one here that recognises that? Discretion is probably the one thing that separates the hard core punters from the sex tourists when it comes to Indonesia.
What a great report, many thanks for taking the time. Something I did not quite understand; On day 1 you went to Classic on day 2 and 3 to Classic Spa, is this two seperate places, or is it the same?
Cheers.
Be.
There are several levels to Classic.
As you walk into the place, the ground floor entrance leads to a disco. For the sex club you need to get in the lift and go up to the second floor, there's a large room called Terminal, the massage / steam / sauna is on a separate floor. The sex rooms are separate.
I like the set up as the girls will shower in front of you. Loved watching them wash the pussy. 2nd time I went, I got into the shower and got BBBJ (squeezy space) from my lady on all 4's. True PSE lady, the only one of 5 ladies I did over 3 trips that was true PSE but each session I had was good to great. Each girl I did was picked from ladies sitting on a couch, all controlled by Mamasan. Some of the Mamas are very obnoxious. I just tipped this particular one each time as she would "help" me with selections based on my ideas.
Overall -.
Free admission but, Minimum spend 40 k, may be as much as 120 k depending on whether they can "gouge' you (Bule).
Short time 350 k, doubles are 500 k but I got Mamasan to line me up 2 goers (more likely to do what I wanted) so paid 700 k plus 50 k tip for Mama plus I tipped the girls 200 k ea.
On-stage dancers 1,500 k minimum to boom booms. I checked out a few but for the price of 4 women why pay 1 "model" MORE.
Beers 70 k, sodas 31 k.
Shots 45 k add 30% taxes etc.
You get given a wristband with a number when you enter the club, and pay your drinks bill on the way out. The cost of sex is paid separately upfront to a mamasan. You're then directed to a short time hotel room upstairs for 60 minutes.
I sat and talked with the PSE girl first by booking a table for one hour (I think it was 350 k for the hour), and add drinks I bought her and my 1 beer. But I get groped and massaged and fondled so I knew this girl was THE ONE. Drinks are not included. Or, just tell the mamasan which girl you want and head straight upstairs. All the Girls sit and wait on seats on the side.
Many girls will insist on condoms even for BJ. This is why I asked a certain Mamasan to help me. I used her girls each time as I was known after trip 1. There are some real lookers here, indeed as good or better than Malio IMHO, especially after 8 pm or so.
Over 4 trips to Classic I spent a total of 4. 9 M IDR. But that was doing everything I wanted. Great place. Travel is similar just more laid back.
Negatives are the smoke at night and Mamasans. Plus I despise the way they treat the ladies.
YMMV.
Pic below is from a blog, not mine (I don't take pics).
So I just got done with my first mongering trip to Jakarta. And all I can say is. WOW. I I hooked up with a few other board members who were amazing and showed me the ropes. Thanks guys, the trip wouldn't have been as great without your help.
Flight: Air Asia from Singapore 1 HR 45 min everything on time. Jakarta airport surprisingly efficient, no lines anywhere at all. VOA, Immigration and Customs all done in less than 20 min. Changed 100 USD just to get going, stepped outside and hopped into a Bluebird. Meter rate to Holiday Inn about 130 K.
Hotel: Holiday Inn Gajah Meda. I can't say enough good things about this hotel. 5 star luxury at 3 star price. $45/ night including a nice breakfast. Large, clean quiet rooms, great service. Perfect location 10 min from Classic / Travel / Kota Indah. About 25 K for a grab car to any of those hot spots.
The Venues: Classic and Travel have similar set ups, large bars, live band, hundreds of girls. The quality of the girls blew me away. Better than Thailand for me because no plastic and very few tats. All natural look. And I don't believe there was a single girl over 25 in any of the bars we went to. Hardly any foreigners, mostly local crowd. Downsides were very loud music and lots of smoke. Girls are sitting on couches in groups each managed by a mamasan. You can get the mamasan to have them all line up for inspection. Its okay to say no to all of them and move to another mamasan. You are the boss here. Price 375 for one, 500 for two. Unbeatable deal. Clean rooms. Kota Indah is even more local and very crowded late at night. Had more of a happening party vibe with thumping DJ music. But slightly lower girl quality however with the sheer number of girls you can always find a few to your satisfaction. Same set up with mamasans and rooms. One thing I didn't learn the first day is you can select a girl and sit and have a drink and chat and you are still free to reject her if you don't vibe. I did that in KI and Classic and was met with a polite thank you and they even kissed my hand as they left. Also checked out Malio club which is more an American style strip club. Lots of high mileage for a $4 lady drink. Girl quality higher than Classic / Travel but 3 X -10 X more expensive to fuck depending on girl category.
The Girls: I found all the girls except one to be amazing in service. And even the one was not bad by objective standards. I had 2 threesomes, several one on ones. I must have fucked 8 girls all bareback. Juicy details below.
Day 1: Arrived hotel around 2 pm. Sugar spa was across the street and recommended by ISG bro. You select girl from Ipad, I asked for a slim girl with natural tits and mamasan recommended Echa. Cute girl in person. Go to room, she showers and bathes me thoroughly, does some massage, teasing, body to body and moves on to sex. I ask for bareback, she agrees, off to the races. Decent service but nothing compared to what was coming later. 650 K plus 100 K tip and she was happy. I broke my Jakarta Cherry. Later around 6 pm met up with the guys at Classic. Thats a good time to go, most of the girls are there but few customers. Went around the sofas and one mama san said "new girls" so I said OK, show me. She pulls up one girl there on her first day (yeah right I'm thinking but turns out she was actually telling the truth). Mama offers 2 for 500 and I'm like WTF, how bad can it be for 30 bucks? So I chose another skinny girl and take them to the room. Here they both say they are new and have never done a threesome. I'm like cool, I will show you how (evil grin). I tell them no condoms and offer an undefined tip. They quickly agree. That was my first amazing session. The brand new girl was 22 and the other was 19 and had been there a week. They were full on GFE, DFK, alternatively fucking one pussy and another pussy to a mouth and back and forth. This went on for a good 40 min before I finally unloaded in the skinny one. The new one looked down at her pussy and there was some blood (not period) so I think she was really not used to it. But she didn't complain a word. I tipped them each a generous 200 K and they were thrilled. Total cost 900 K (60 USD). Wow. I thought it couldn't get better but I was wrong. Wait until day 3! But wait, Day 1 is not over. All the boys then decide to move to Travel. A lot more girls, more party atmosphere. Spent most of the evening hanging with the guys but took one slim cutie who turned out to be the worst lay of the trip. She asked for tip right away in advance. I told her I will tip her after and expect BBFS. She agrees but tries to rush. I stop her and tell her that's not how it works got her to come around to doing it right. So in the end she delivered an acceptable session, I unload inside her and give her the promised 200 k (even though she maybe didn't quite deserve it). 3 pops is a good day for me at my age and I call it a night.
Day 2: After a nice sushi lunch with the gang, one of the guys and I decide to go to Classic Spa. This is in the basement of Classic Hotel. Typical spa set up like in Macau or Shanghai. Lockers, Jacuzzi, Sauna etc for the 120000 entrance fee. Theres a lounge with fishbowl of girls. Not the best selection at 3 pm (early) but I did see one beauty who turned out to be the highlight of the trip Took her back and she exemplified true GFE. Passionate kissing, long deep BBBJ, deep fingering that made her almost squirt. After some Satay at the lounge, went up the bar area again but couldn't get myself energized for another so went back to the room for a break. Later the guys all wanted to go to Kota Indah so we ended up there. Popped into a few bars, crazy scene. Loud, dark and crowded. Tons of girls and also tons of guys (all locals). Quality not quite as good as Classic but still not bad. The environment was too hectic for me to choose. I did buy a drink with one girl but close up she had tats which I didn't want. I politely told her no thanks and she took it sweetly and kissed my hand and left. Felt bad cause she was a nice girl but I was saving my precious fluid for a stunner. Which I found in the fishbowl at Starmoon. A gorgeous 19 yo, slim but with natural large tits. Unbelievable body and face. Had a drink with her and took her upstairs. A bit disappointed as she was not too enthusiastic but BBFSCIP with a hot 19 yo for 25 bucks is never a bad thing. Two shots on the second day and I'm done. I wish I could do 6 shots in 24 hours like I used to 20 years ago in Angeles, but alas, those days are gone.
Day 3: Decided to go back to Classic Spa to possibly repeat with the same girl. She was there as was another tight spinner I had my eye on. So took both of them for what turned out to be by far one of the best sexual experiences of my life. Paid a small 50 K upgrade to a VIP room which had a large round bed and a jacuzzi tub as well. Since the first girl already knew me and was happy to see me again and she spoke English, it worked like charm. She instructed the other girl in what I liked (no condom etc) and both were happy and giggling in the room, overall a very positive vibe. The sex as off the charts. Better than my first 3 some and with way hotter girls. The first threesome girls were like 7 while these were solid 9 in my book. And both were full on with passionate kissing, fingering them to orgasm, long deep BBBJ, alternate pussy fucking. Like a dream, two 20 year old hot girls doing whatever I wanted. First shot unloaded in the skinny one. Second in the other one. Total cost for 90 min 600 k each for the girl plus 200 k each tip. So about USD 100 all in. This ranks as one of my best experiences in over 20 years of mongering. Back in the day I used to get stuff like this all the time in Angeles but not with girls this hot.
Came out of the session and went in for a regular massage (also onsite) which felt great and then back to the jacuzzi for a dip before leaving. We spent probably 6 hours onsite and total bill was about $150 all inclusive. My favorite place of the trip.
Last thing left to check out was Malioboro so a few of us went there after 10 pm. I know the place gets bad press but I actually had fun. Lots of hot girls in transparent fishnet clothing. I bought one some $4 drinks and she was on my lap, French kissing me, fondling her boobs while she rubbed my dick, and I even stuck my finger in her pussy. Lap dance ++ experience was a lot of fun. You can fuck the dancers for 3. 8 M (over $200) so not worth it but for watching hot girls and playing with a few for drinks its great value. My total bill was 800 K (50 USD) for lap dances and a round of beers for the gang.
Final Comments: Why on earth did I not bother to go to Jakarta earlier? I've lived in Asia since 2017 and visited Thailand and Phils dozens of times. Jakarta is like Bangkok 20 years ago. Unjaded girls, no English, few foreigners and tourists so prices in line with local market. No fake boobs, few tattoos. I also chatted with a bunch of Tinder girls but since I was there for only 3 days didn't really get time to meet them. But that option also exists.
I think AC is now off my destination list forever, replaced by Jakarta. The only saving grace of AC was BBFS but I had 100% success rate with that in Jakarta. Just one girl refused in the bar and I sent her away. Every other girl quickly agreed with the promise of a small tip. Even in threesomes where they often won't do that in front of their coworkers, I didn't get any resistance. I know other posters have had different experiences and I don't know why but this was my experience. As Arnold said so eloquently " I will be baack".
What a great report, many thanks for taking the time. Something I did not quite understand; On day 1 you went to Classic on day 2 and 3 to Classic Spa, is this two seperate places, or is it the same?
Everything is smooth at Jakarta airport but it's irrelevant if you have checked bags which you have to wait an hour for.
This is the most interesting statement for me after reading your review. Classic and Travel are not really known for BBFS for first time customers and even more difficult if you take 2 girls. In fact, most demanding guys complain about the service at Classic and Travel. Girls must really be hurting for business if this is the new norm at Classic and Travel.
Don't think the bad press at Malioboro is because you can't have fun there with beautiful girls. The bad press comes from the high prices the girls demand ie. 40-60 drinks just for a BJ.
Is cover still $10 US? Did you check out the other floors?
We all ask ourselves the same question after our first trip to Jakarta. I've been trying to get some guys to go sine 2017 but they're so stuck in their ways in PP and Thailand and are "afraid" to try somewhere new. I guess they'll figure it out in another few years when Jakarta becomes more popular. By then it'll be too late as it'll be another place where we look back at the good old days.
I don't think girls are hurting and I don't necessarily think my experiences are the "norm" and everyone should expect that. Other members of our group had varying success rates with the BBFS. I generally have good success even in Thailand (like 75%) but not with girls as hot as the ones in Jakarta. I am also not cheap charlie. If a girl pleases me the way I want, I make sure she is happy. The girl I repeated with at Classic Spa was thrilled to see me again and then her friend felt safe also and the 3 some worked. Repeating at a location and having a good reputation there helps. The first 3 some in Classic Bar, the girls were new so maybe that helped also. Or maybe I am just charming them. LOL. Either way, worked well for me.
Yes Malio Cover 150 K (10 USD). I didn't check out other areas this time.
We all ask ourselves the same question after our first trip to Jakarta. I've been trying to get some guys to go sine 2017 but they're so stuck in their ways in PP and Thailand and are "afraid" to try somewhere new. I guess they'll figure it out in another few years when Jakarta becomes more popular. By then it'll be too late as it'll be another place where we look back at the good old days.
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