Vientiane

[SteelBaton]

Thanks for the news from 2022. Sounds like much has changed. Do you have any more recent information or rumours? It's a lovely country and would like to know more about the scene in the capital these days. Thanks.

The places mentioned in 2019 I saw in 2019. In that year sittong road had many, many places to offer. Maybea couple dozen. I saw in the news the govt had a clean up during covid era, and when I aent back in 2022 those places were goneburgers. All the big resturants closed up, and half of the smaller joints were gone. Most of the remaining ones had fabricated steel gates out to lock out LEOs or any undesirables. Within a couple months I heard most of the remaining places had closed up, theres only 1 or 2 left now. Big new developments, new hotels, new clubs opening up in that area, plus govt pressure.

[Nuttin Serious]

I wonder are these two places that infoseeker reported on in 2019 the same place as these "shacks" that Pv118 reported on in June? The prices seem to be similar especially since it's been 5 years. Also same place Sithong Rd. The 2019 report gives much more details about how to find the places.

The places mentioned in 2019 I saw in 2019. In that year sittong road had many, many places to offer. Maybea couple dozen. I saw in the news the govt had a clean up during covid era, and when I aent back in 2022 those places were goneburgers. All the big resturants closed up, and half of the smaller joints were gone. Most of the remaining ones had fabricated steel gates out to lock out LEOs or any undesirables. Within a couple months I heard most of the remaining places had closed up, theres only 1 or 2 left now. Big new developments, new hotels, new clubs opening up in that area, plus govt pressure.

[Gabacho]

There are two garden style places, compounds really, with karaoke room, restaurant and open air covered drinking huts. They are about 2-3 km down Sithong Road after the busy intersection with the Mitsubishi dealership. Both are on the right going towards the bus station but before the two massage places mentioned by Negima, I think.

You can drive right in and park so its very discrete and your Mia will never find you there.

Maybe 10 pusao in each place and both places are frequented by more by Chinese customers. These are no high end karaoke places, low prices for beer, food and everything else. But at least they have bucket showers in the rooms. Pusao 170,000 KIP, I think 20,000 goes for the room but maybe I pay a 20,000 KIP falang tax. The one I had ST was well worth it.

In both places the pusao (all Lao) ask for food to be bought, and they all seem to be starving haha. But food is not pricey so it's OK. They actually have an nice atmosphere, can sit outside and drink and eat, no blaring music in your ears. Also not on the side of the road with people peering in at you as they walk by.

Went to the shacks on Sitthong road. Price 200 k ($9. 18). In the room the girl immediately opened her legs and I think she wanted me to BBFS her. After a minute of hesitation she did grab a condom. Maybe it's my imagination: do these girls expect you to BBFS them for 200 k? Has anyone here done that in these shacks?

I wonder are these two places that infoseeker reported on in 2019 the same place as these "shacks" that Pv118 reported on in June? The prices seem to be similar especially since it's been 5 years. Also same place Sithong Rd. The 2019 report gives much more details about how to find the places.

[Gabacho]

Went to the shacks on Sitthong road. Price 200 k ($9. 18). In the room the girl immediately opened her legs and I think she wanted me to BBFS her. After a minute of hesitation she did grab a condom. Maybe it's my imagination: do these girls expect you to BBFS them for 200 k? Has anyone here done that in these shacks?

Sounds like a very good value. What were the conditions of these shacks and the women for that matter? How did you find this place? This is in Vientiane, Laos? How would you rate the overall experience there?

[Nuttin Serious]

Hmmm. If I were writing a book on "How to catch an STD for dummies" I think this would get a chapter. Read back a few pages for reports of antibiotic resistant strains of diseases circulating, and mix that with intermittant condom usage by low cost local orientated working girls seeing a lot of traffic. Going BB in those places seems a sure bet to catch something.

Went to the shacks on Sitthong road. Price 200 k ($9. 18). In the room the girl immediately opened her legs and I think she wanted me to BBFS her. After a minute of hesitation she did grab a condom. Maybe it's my imagination: do these girls expect you to BBFS them for 200 k? Has anyone here done that in these shacks?

[Pv118]

Went to the shacks on Sitthong road. Price 200 k ($9. 18). In the room the girl immediately opened her legs and I think she wanted me to BBFS her. After a minute of hesitation she did grab a condom. Maybe it's my imagination: do these girls expect you to BBFS them for 200 k? Has anyone here done that in these shacks?

[Buksida]

I will have to disagree with all of this. Especially because all your accounts are secondhand and never happened to you. I have been going here for years. Before and after covid and have never experienced any of this that you are talking about. Only a stupid person would carry drugs in an Asian country and only a stupid person would get caught up in a police sting. I also have plenty of you tuber friends that film everything in Laos and for mongering it is still a decent destination. You just have to know where to go, what apps to use, and how to behave.

I can also agree with you. However my last trip was pre covid. I will see who I can hookup with online and then make the trip. Vte is a quiet but fun city if you just give it a chance. There are nice restaurants, sites to enjoy, a small casino and kind lovely women!!

[Rick Rock]

Can you shed us some light on the YouTube channels. I m reading that golden triangle might be a good place to.

Monger but it seems entries are mainly for Asians.

It's definitely most popular for Asian guys. You see many guys in rented cars stopping by the various cat houses and checking lineups. It doesn't mean you aren't welcome if you aren't Asian. But yes, it's Asian guys (Japanese, Korean, Chinese) are definitely the top customers and the mamasans know that.

[BonMonger]

I will have to disagree with all of this. Especially because all your accounts are secondhand and never happened to you. I have been going here for years. Before and after covid and have never experienced any of this that you are talking about. Only a stupid person would carry drugs in an Asian country and only a stupid person would get caught up in a police sting. I also have plenty of you tuber friends that film everything in Laos and for mongering it is still a decent destination. You just have to know where to go, what apps to use, and how to behave.

Can you shed us some light on the YouTube channels. I m reading that golden triangle might be a good place to.

Monger but it seems entries are mainly for Asians.

[EverythingThai]

There is 0 mongering in Laos for foreigners. I have a Lao friend that was talling me there is no mlngering here since the police raided massage places few times already.

Also he told me that police newly setup the foreigners with girls and raids their hotel rooms since relationship with Lao girls and foreigners is illegal. Has happened at least to an indian and an australian guy I know. One got 12 nights in jail and the other one was out with $5 k usd and he said he was lucky. Also food options are very minimal. Electricity outage is common. Even for a thailand visa change is better to go to vietnam or Cambodia. Recently a guy on Reddit wrote his experience for spending few days in a jail in Laos just for having an snall empty packet of weed. Thailand is the best honestly.

I will have to disagree with all of this. Especially because all your accounts are secondhand and never happened to you. I have been going here for years. Before and after covid and have never experienced any of this that you are talking about. Only a stupid person would carry drugs in an Asian country and only a stupid person would get caught up in a police sting. I also have plenty of you tuber friends that film everything in Laos and for mongering it is still a decent destination. You just have to know where to go, what apps to use, and how to behave.

[Ray1111]

There is 0 mongering in Laos for foreigners. I have a Lao friend that was talling me there is no mlngering here since the police raided massage places few times already.

Also he told me that police newly setup the foreigners with girls and raids their hotel rooms since relationship with Lao girls and foreigners is illegal. Has happened at least to an indian and an australian guy I know. One got 12 nights in jail and the other one was out with $5 k usd and he said he was lucky. Also food options are very minimal. Electricity outage is common. Even for a thailand visa change is better to go to vietnam or Cambodia. Recently a guy on Reddit wrote his experience for spending few days in a jail in Laos just for having an snall empty packet of weed. Thailand is the best honestly.

[TonyIndian]

Is the Vietnamese massage place still going near the Vientiane Plaza Hotel?

[SteelBaton]

Thanks for a great report. I've mongered only once in Lao and my experience was similar, although that was 20 years ago, seems not much has changed. Curious why some SEA countries develop such good p4 p ecosystems and others have very little despite similar poverty, education and religions. Lao vs Thailand is a good example, but also Indonesia vs Bangladesh.

I've been to Vientiane once before, on a weekend run a few years ago. With the Chinese tied up in lockdowns and the Kip slipping in value I thought ID give it another go for a few days. I may ramble. Sorry in advance.

The short version: Vientiane has almost zero p4 p geared towards english speaking foreigners. It is nothing like Thailand, Philippines, or even Phnom Penh or Jakarta. The p4 p scene is lowkey and if you don't speak Lao, Thai or perhaps Chinese you just arnt going to get much access.

The best looking girls, from what I can make out, are either working in KTVs in chinese owned or orientated Hotels. I didn't try to visit, it might be possible. I chatted to one girl who worked at one of these via a dating site, although when we were due to meet she ditched. She did say she got 500 k for going with a customer for the night. Whether that's a a tip or a cut IDK.

There are free lancers who work out of bars and restaurants. Again, you really need to speak Lao or Thai. Thats the clientele they are catering to. Some good looking, lighter skinned girls in this sector. No luck for me here either, just a chance to observe.

Massage. Here results picked up a bit. I was actually in the mood for a proper massage so I didn't have any high expectations. I had hired a moto and was just exploring, so I picked an externally fairly legit looking massage place a way out sittong road, a little way past the 'character cafe' (which is quite a nice cafe too). On entering and surveying the staff I got a hint there was more on offer. A cute young lady with a cheeky grin took me upstairs, washed my feet and invited me to disrobe in a room with 3 mattresses on the floor with curtains between. Fan and quiet relaxing music. Seemed fairly legit to I put the massage pants on and laid down.

Girl comes in and starts, and within a couple minutes decided I needed to loose the pants as they got in the way. Over the next 10 minutes or so things developed steadily as massage began to resemble something more like foreplay. We were the only ones in that room. I unbuttoned her denim shorts and checked inside, while she smiled at me. Eventually we agreed on extending the hour massage to 2 hours and full service for 600 k to her, she wouldn't go any lower. About 1200 baht. She was 19, cheeky and cute with nice smooth skin and good proportions. We had a good time, she enjoyed it too, after initially complaining about the size of my tool of trade. Massage cost at the desk downstairs was 100 k per hour, so 200 k total. Waved the girl good bye, and made a note to return again. It was a chance encounter but it worked out very well. I must add there were zero english words spoken by anyone there, sign language and google translate was used to communicate while upstairs. And this brings us to the next difficulty. Google translate just doesn't do Lao well. Its great for every other language I've tried, but Lao.

It seems to miss a lot of nuance, struggle to understand verbal input, and not even register the meanings of many words used. On top of that some references went right over my head.

There are also some chicken shack / brothels in places, as found by reading back through previous forum posts. I found some (after dark they become somewhat obvious with the pink lighting). They are hit and miss, mostly miss. In the interests of science I explored again, zero english, white foreigners (moreso their money) accepted. Service level expectations to be kept low, facilities dirty and very poor. I met a 27 yo vietnamese girl at one who was fairly enthusiastic, or maybe just excited to have a customer. And least she gave a BJ. She wante the to chat afterwards.

Next night a 22 ish Lao girl who, while fairly good looking, undressed and assumed a missionary position which she wouldn't budge from. And that was her entire contribution to proceedings. In both cases 200 k was the rate. Which sounds cheap, until you add in the cost of getting there. So I got more ambitious. In the middle of it all is a ST hotel, or 150000 kip for all night. For 500 k I got a takeaway Lao, and retired to my very modest room which boasted clean towels but not a lot more. A lot of noise filtered through from the street, but this Lao girl is 20, friendly but a little shy, and fun to be with. I'm getting into this. Then, about 90 minutes in I hear the sound of heavy footsteps on the stairs. Voices and then what sounds like radio chatter or walkie talkies. Police? Shakedown? Setup?? I hardly dared breath. What sounds like radio comms from outside my door. Eventually footsteps went away, and about half an hour later I bailed too, dropped my short term Lao GF back to her place of work and retired for the night. Decided that was enough adrenaline and ID stick to sneaky massages and plan to head back to Thailand and more familiar territory.

Other things to note: The Lao girls (including the online contact) refused oral and seemed disgusted by the concept. Cover was expected and given reports of disease circulating in other reports in this forum I sided with caution.

Interestingly I met a gentleman in my travels who said he had seen a lot of Lao girls, likely FL, in Nong Khai.

Overall: Lao is a lovely laid back place to relax for a few days, but in terms of P4 P you're far better off in Thailand for choice, accessibility, langage, food and even value for money when you take the travel / visa costs into account. And with the Lao girls looking for money youll probably find the best ones in Thailand soon enough anyway.

In another comparison, I think Indonesia Laos for lower cost p4 p, and I felt a lot more secure there too.

[Nuttin Serious]

I've been to Vientiane once before, on a weekend run a few years ago. With the Chinese tied up in lockdowns and the Kip slipping in value I thought ID give it another go for a few days. I may ramble. Sorry in advance.

The short version: Vientiane has almost zero p4 p geared towards english speaking foreigners. It is nothing like Thailand, Philippines, or even Phnom Penh or Jakarta. The p4 p scene is lowkey and if you don't speak Lao, Thai or perhaps Chinese you just arnt going to get much access.

The best looking girls, from what I can make out, are either working in KTVs in chinese owned or orientated Hotels. I didn't try to visit, it might be possible. I chatted to one girl who worked at one of these via a dating site, although when we were due to meet she ditched. She did say she got 500 k for going with a customer for the night. Whether that's a a tip or a cut IDK.

There are free lancers who work out of bars and restaurants. Again, you really need to speak Lao or Thai. Thats the clientele they are catering to. Some good looking, lighter skinned girls in this sector. No luck for me here either, just a chance to observe.

Massage. Here results picked up a bit. I was actually in the mood for a proper massage so I didn't have any high expectations. I had hired a moto and was just exploring, so I picked an externally fairly legit looking massage place a way out sittong road, a little way past the 'character cafe' (which is quite a nice cafe too). On entering and surveying the staff I got a hint there was more on offer. A cute young lady with a cheeky grin took me upstairs, washed my feet and invited me to disrobe in a room with 3 mattresses on the floor with curtains between. Fan and quiet relaxing music. Seemed fairly legit to I put the massage pants on and laid down.

Girl comes in and starts, and within a couple minutes decided I needed to loose the pants as they got in the way. Over the next 10 minutes or so things developed steadily as massage began to resemble something more like foreplay. We were the only ones in that room. I unbuttoned her denim shorts and checked inside, while she smiled at me. Eventually we agreed on extending the hour massage to 2 hours and full service for 600 k to her, she wouldn't go any lower. About 1200 baht. She was 19, cheeky and cute with nice smooth skin and good proportions. We had a good time, she enjoyed it too, after initially complaining about the size of my tool of trade. Massage cost at the desk downstairs was 100 k per hour, so 200 k total. Waved the girl good bye, and made a note to return again. It was a chance encounter but it worked out very well. I must add there were zero english words spoken by anyone there, sign language and google translate was used to communicate while upstairs. And this brings us to the next difficulty. Google translate just doesn't do Lao well. Its great for every other language I've tried, but Lao.

It seems to miss a lot of nuance, struggle to understand verbal input, and not even register the meanings of many words used. On top of that some references went right over my head.

There are also some chicken shack / brothels in places, as found by reading back through previous forum posts. I found some (after dark they become somewhat obvious with the pink lighting). They are hit and miss, mostly miss. In the interests of science I explored again, zero english, white foreigners (moreso their money) accepted. Service level expectations to be kept low, facilities dirty and very poor. I met a 27 yo vietnamese girl at one who was fairly enthusiastic, or maybe just excited to have a customer. And least she gave a BJ. She wante the to chat afterwards.

Next night a 22 ish Lao girl who, while fairly good looking, undressed and assumed a missionary position which she wouldn't budge from. And that was her entire contribution to proceedings. In both cases 200 k was the rate. Which sounds cheap, until you add in the cost of getting there. So I got more ambitious. In the middle of it all is a ST hotel, or 150000 kip for all night. For 500 k I got a takeaway Lao, and retired to my very modest room which boasted clean towels but not a lot more. A lot of noise filtered through from the street, but this Lao girl is 20, friendly but a little shy, and fun to be with. I'm getting into this. Then, about 90 minutes in I hear the sound of heavy footsteps on the stairs. Voices and then what sounds like radio chatter or walkie talkies. Police? Shakedown? Setup?? I hardly dared breath. What sounds like radio comms from outside my door. Eventually footsteps went away, and about half an hour later I bailed too, dropped my short term Lao GF back to her place of work and retired for the night. Decided that was enough adrenaline and ID stick to sneaky massages and plan to head back to Thailand and more familiar territory.

Other things to note: The Lao girls (including the online contact) refused oral and seemed disgusted by the concept. Cover was expected and given reports of disease circulating in other reports in this forum I sided with caution.

Interestingly I met a gentleman in my travels who said he had seen a lot of Lao girls, likely FL, in Nong Khai.

Overall: Lao is a lovely laid back place to relax for a few days, but in terms of P4 P you're far better off in Thailand for choice, accessibility, langage, food and even value for money when you take the travel / visa costs into account. And with the Lao girls looking for money youll probably find the best ones in Thailand soon enough anyway.

In another comparison, I think Indonesia Laos for lower cost p4 p, and I felt a lot more secure there too.

[Rammer11]

Hi Folks, been here 2 weeks primarily for work but this place is bone dry. Seems there are a lot of fish but am not casting in the correct pond. Your pointers are much requested and much awaited. Many thanks in advance.

Cheers.

Are.

P.S. Staying at the CPlaza hotel.