Rants, Stupid Shit and Coronavirus in Thailand

[Nyezhov]

As this forum is in English, any chance you could actually write in English rather than incoherent garbage?

That's how they be talking in his social and cultural mileau.

[Nyezhov]

This is the very first post you made in response to mine in the: Rants, Stupid Shit and Coronavirus in Thailand.

Let the record show that it was you, Mr. KBW (Key Bored Warrior) that first responded to me and continue to respond to me. What is most interesting about your initial post is you were wrong right from the beginning and others told you so. No one is forcing you to read and respond !

Well I've been at this place for a long time and I kind of like it. I view it like my backyard, if I find a random piece of shit on the ground, I go get a shovel and pick it up. It's sort of the same here with your posts, clean out the shit.

[Mogwai]

If you knew even the basics about me you would not have written that.

Same same. If you knew even the basics about me you would not have written that.

I remember you. You were the person that knows Pattaya so well that you thought I could not find my way back to my room on the Baht Bus. Explains to me how much you actually know about Pattaya. Someone finally corrected you as to the actual route the Baht Bus takes and you acknowledged that you spoke out of turn and did not know what you were talking about.

I just misread your post, that's all. I thought you were going north, where you actually went south. Once again you are making this small mistake much bigger than it actually was, and jump to the incorrect conclusion that I do not know much about Pattaya.

How long have you been traveling? Where have you been? When was the last time you lived outside of your country of origin? When was the last time you were in LATAM? When was the last time you were in Thailand?

I have started my monger trips in 2004. I have been to Thailand and the Philippines dozens of times, and I've also mongered in Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos, and South Korea. And one time in Brazil, in 2008. Last time in Thailand was 2 weeks ago.

That explains a lot. You have not been to Thailand for 20 years.

You know damn well that's BS. You're jumping to conclusions again.

Today I was out of a walk. Got rained on. Walked past a massage shop with half dozen young doable girls.

Half a dozen young doable girls in only one shop? You must have been drunk or you forgot your glasses, LOL.

I can go onto TF and spot any number of girls that are new to the website. And you can filter your age range to be what ever you like.

I know, I use TF all the time.

You can goto Windmill I or Windmill II and find many young girls working there. Every three to six months seems like the entire crew turns over.

I've been to Windmill I only once, and found the talent only average.

There is really no reason for you to come into the Pattaya Reports section with your negativity.

Yes, there is. I need to provide some counterbalance to your misleading positivity, LOL. But seriously, you are taking my comments too seriously.

It is that entire Glory Days mentality that causes old folk to get stuck and not be able to fully enjoy Pattaya in the present incarnation.

Thank God I'm not stuck in that mentality, because I'm still enjoying Pattaya. Maybe not as much as 10-15 years ago, but I can still find nice young girls. It just takes some more time and effort, that's all.

Go where you are treated best Mogwai. While you are at it tell us where that is. LOL! Continue enjoy the girls from TF when you are in Pattaya. Looking forward to your next trip?

I sure do. I'm especially looking forward to that lovely young lady I found on TF about two years ago. One of my all time favorites. She's 21 now, no kids, no tattoos, no piercings, perfect body, tight pussy, great subtle blowjob, BBFSCIP. And a great attitude.

Sigh, back in the Glory Days all girls were like her. No, I'm joking, but back in the Glory Days there were definitely more girls like her than there are nowadays. No matter what you say, my friend.

[PgReal]

Don't start no stuff; there won't be no stuff. LOL!

As this forum is in English, any chance you could actually write in English rather than incoherent garbage?

[SubCmdr]

When guys get older, they forget about the dogs and just remember the good ones.

That is right. One of the reasons you do not see me taking about the glory days of yesteryear. The other reason is that I cannot live in the past. I make the best of what today presents to me.

I have been traveling all over this earth for most of my adult life. I have extensive experience traveling to and living in LATAM. Over 10 years worth of living there alone. You do not find me posting about the glory days in those country threads. Nor will you find me posting about the glory days in Thailand. Why? Because there are not glory days in my memories.

That explains a lot. In about 10 years from now you will be talking about 2023 as the good old days.

If you knew even the basics about me you would not have written that.

I remember you. You were the person that knows Pattaya so well that you thought I could not find my way back to my room on the Baht Bus. Explains to me how much you actually know about Pattaya. Someone finally corrected you as to the actual route the Baht Bus takes and you acknowledged that you spoke out of turn and did not know what you were talking about.

How long have you been traveling? Where have you been? When was the last time you lived outside of your country of origin? When was the last time you were in LATAM? When was the last time you were in Thailand?

You see the same 'girls' in the bars who started working there 20 years ago.

That explains a lot. You have not been to Thailand for 20 years. Today I was out of a walk. Got rained on. Walked past a massage shop with half dozen young doable girls. I can go onto TF and spot any number of girls that are new to the website. And you can filter your age range to be what ever you like. You can goto Windmill I or Windmill II and find many young girls working there. Every three to six months seems like the entire crew turns over.

There is really no reason for you to come into the Pattaya Reports section with your negativity. Besides you can goto Bangkok and many other locations in Thailand. I have a friend who no longer goes to Pattaya and heads out to the country and grabs pretty girls out there for 1000 THB day.

It is that entire Glory Days mentality that causes old folk to get stuck and not be able to fully enjoy Pattaya in the present incarnation. This principle applies to hiring prostitutes and many other areas of life.

Go where you are treated best Mogwai. While you are at it tell us where that is. LOL! Continue enjoy the girls from TF when you are in Pattaya. Looking forward to your next trip?

[Forty Drinks]

In a slow period who gets affected the most. The 1 k crowd. Makes sense the Ugly Muglie will be aggressive, they are the 1st to get hit.

The top tiers, will always be able to make money.

Don't you all wish you were the Commando now. Girls falling all over you, I bet even at discount from 1 k. Maybe 3 fiddy.

LOL. Hahaha.

[Mogwai]

I first arrived in Thailand in 2023.

That explains a lot. In about 10 years from now you will be talking about 2023 as the good old days.

[SubCmdr]

Female talent is about the same as 20 years ago.

When guys get older, they forget about the dogs and just remember the good ones.

You are keeping it 100.

I think the main point is not the cost. Everyone understands inflation. McDonalds meal could be had for $1. 99. Now its like 10 bucks. But WHAT they are serving is more or less the same thing. Consistent burgers and service. You know what you are paying for.

I beg to differ with you. Others do also. Check out this post:

There has not been any inflation in Thailand that justyfies price increases of 50-100%. And the prices asked in the tourist sector is not always the prices asked from the own population. You really think thai men are paying 35 year olds 1500 for a 30 minute fuck?

You are making a point that is valid throughout the entire world. In every country there is a tourist economy and a local economy. You have to be a very special person to get a local price as a tourist. Half the time it requires no more than knowing how much the locals are paying and refusing to pay more. During low season that is very easy in Pattaya. During high season not so much. Simple supply and demand, the most basic market dynamics at work (Econ 101) or just google it.

In the places where I have established myself as a local I am not paying what tourists pay either. So, if you are doing the same as I do, then why do you care what the tourists are paying? I know I don't.

Pro Tip: Stay focused on the deal and not the girl; be willing to say no; you are more likely to hit the price point that you seek.

I've now become one of those guys who look back at the Good old days. I thought I'd list some of the best gogo bar lineups I have ever seen, in no order. (edited) Likely forgetting a couple. Don't care if LD's have doubled since 2015. Would pay 2x more now if we could have the talent we once had.

Correct me if I am wrong, but I bet the girls back then were charging premium market prices relative to what was standard at the time. In other words, those agogo girls were not going for the same prices street girls were going for. Am I right?

If I am right that means that quality can still be found at a premium price point. Or is everyone saying the the quality of even the top tier girls have gone down now.

The issue is that the product, Thai pussy, is no longer the same. Yes it is is still available but the body its attached to is now tatted up, fake boobs, fake nose and eyes and a mercenary attitude.

I disagree with you. But then I do not have the reference point that you do. On the other hand, who the fuck cares. Sex is in the brain. I only need a girl to cooperate with me enough to give me reasonable access to her mouth, pussy and ass. I live in the present.

The product is exactly the same along with the bodies they are attached to. The problem is (and I am not saying this applies to you) is that many individuals complaining about the "Glory Days" are also unwilling to pay the premium prices that are required to pull the talent they are interested in.

When a restaurant changes it's menu I cannot order off the old one. My only option is if I have a special relationship with the restaurant is to ask the chef to prepare something special. If prices go up I must simply pay the new prices. Or I can find another restaurant to eat at.

As I roam throughout Pattaya, I see my asian brothers with girls that look like they could be models in the commercials I see on Thai TV. That's right, slim bodies, void of tattoos, fair complexions, hair did, nails straight and dressed like they just got finished with a "pretty woman" shopping spree. Oh yes, my fellow brothers, you can have what ever you like if you are willing to pay for it. Does not appear that my asian brothers let themselves be restricted by the amount of worthless fiat currency they are willing to pay their prostitutes.

Most of the individuals complaining are not willing to pay for what they want. I see it all the time. Complaints about certain visitors driving up the price. Stay home and make some damn money. That way you can spend it when you get wherever you are going.

I recently told a friend, do not think you are going to come here and get top tier girls (whatever the fuck that means) for 1000 - 1500 THB. But if you want to ejaculate, they will provide you with service.

Yes I know the glory days are not coming back.

Good to see that you accept the reality of that situation. But I can argue that our best days lie ahead.

But for better or worse people have reference point in their mind that sets expectations whether we like it or not.

They also have the ability to choose how to relate to that reference point. Complain about the Glory Days having passed them by or doing something about in real time to improve their results.

Good for you that you can only remember as far back as your last ejaculation. Many of us are not blessed with such selective and ultra short term memory.

Damn straight. I feel sorry for people that do not have enough control over their own minds in order to live in the present. They look outward in order to place blame instead of looking inward.

If you want a girlfriend then you do what you need to get one. If you want "top tier" prostitutes, then you pay what you need to pay to get them. I keep it real. Prostitutes providing a service. I do not need the GFE fantasy. I have real girlfriends for that. I goto prostitutes for "he" Ho Experience. You are not going find me walking hand in hand with a prostitute. Taking them to dinner or shopping. Nor going on trips in or outside of Thailand. Or spending the night with them for that matter!

If I was dissatisfied with Pattaya (and I am not ATM) there is the entire country of Thailand to explore. If I found Thailand was not working for me anymore there is: Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia, Indonesia, South Korea and Japan all within a short flight. Laos, Indonesia, South Korea and Japan all have my interest. Not because I have a problem with Pattaya but because I am interested in fucking the prostitutes that are available there.

You see I think everyone should go where they are treated best. If your eyes and your dick are not being treated well here in Pattaya, then ask yourself why are you here? Why do you visit?

When I got tired of the culture in LATAM countries I decided to take a break. Flew half-way around the world. What did I find? Pussy is Pussy! Latinas have better hardware overall. But Thai girls have much better software. This is no perfect pussy to be found, past, present or future. Although I am looking forward to going to a the first brothel staffed with sex robots.

[SubCmdr]

This is the very first post you made in response to mine in the: Rants, Stupid Shit and Coronavirus in Thailand.

I think you should chill out. This is a forum to exchange information, not to have little wars over ego needs.

Let the record show that it was you, Mr. KBW (Key Bored Warrior) that first responded to me and continue to respond to me. What is most interesting about your initial post is you were wrong right from the beginning and others told you so. No one is forcing you to read and respond to nearly every post I make here and in other places in the Thailand country threads.

This is so true guys. I learned long ago that it takes way too much energy to argue on internet forums. Just have thick skin and move on if you read something you don't like. I read tons of stuff on here I just ignore cause I don't care enough to respond.

Now I personally haven't come under Sub 'blast' yet but if he does blast me I'll just brush it off. I actually enjoy some of his posts but again I'm not on the receiving end of them.

Anyone who understands the English language sees that we are clearly not talking with each other but instead are responding (posting) based on what the other has said. Hardly constitutes a conversation. More like tennis in written form where the issues and insults of the day are hit back across the net with the other retuning it. LOL!

Well clearly you are little fella, you keep trying to talk with me.

[Forty Drinks]

Female talent is about the same as 20 years ago.

When guys get older, they forget about the dogs and just remember the good ones.

Actually not true. Today's talent is definitely not as Good. Looks wise.

Service wise we need the SUB to chime in.

[Nyezhov]

Actually, you just think you know who and what I am Mr. Keyboard warrior. That is ok with me. Because I am not worried about what you think.

Well clearly you are little fella, you keep trying to talk with me.

[SubCmdr]

I started hobbying in Thailand in 2019.

I first arrived in Thailand in 2023.

And I envy those who hobbied long time ago.

Why is that? I know I don't. I live in the present. How can you envy the memory of an experience you never had? Personally I don't get it. Now I can think back to pleasurable experiences I had in the past. But that all they are: pleasant memories that get idealized over time. But they don't get in the way of my current fun. I live in the present.

Why do you think overall talent has declined?

Who says it has and how can your verify that? When I was a kid I paid. 05 USD for 4 cookies. Now that the price of cookies went up it does not mean that the quality of the cookies went down. In fact, the cookies I buy today tastes as good as the cookies I used to buy for. 05 USD. Same same for pussy, mouth and ass. Still feels just as good as when it was less expense. Pussy is Pussy.

Is it because there are more economic opportunities now for women?

Being a prostitute is a choice. Unless someone is trafficked and that is illegal. I do not condone that. These transactions should be made between consenting adults. But we are all prostitutes. Unless you were born with a silver spoon in your mouth, got your inheritance from daddy and momi and now travel the world and have private bankers in every country. We are selling our time, using our bodies and minds to make money. No one is any better up in here than the girls they pay to lay down with.

It is low season in Pattaya again. My Thai Friendly in box is blowing up. The prostitutes are soliciting business from me. I am low balling them and they are accepting.

[SubCmdr]

Yep. Sounds like the old Caucasian westerners are sour that the ladies are choosing Japanese and Korean men over them.

Can you blame young females for not wanting to roll with bald, elderly Caucasian dudes who dress like trash and treat the girls like trash? I mean just look at the typical farang in the Buakho area. LOL.

Not a pretty sigh. It is a shame there is not a "I'm so disgusted surcharge" they could place on them. Maybe that would force them to meet the most basic levels of human appearance standards. Guys up in here and in other threads can say what they want about the prostitutes in Pattaya, but they are putting their best foot forward as they say. They make the best of what they can with what they have. Even the princesses standing under the palm trees on Beach Road.

Times they are a changin.

Yes they are. It runs deeper than that. You got (you know who) on YouTube saying how Thailand is declined and they are moving out cause they don't like the type of people that visit now. Well it sounds to me like someone has dropped down a few rungs of the overall desirability scale and they getting sour about it.

Never mind that the Japanese and Korean men are younger. Dress nicer. Are in better shape. Treat them better. And they pay more! Do you think any one of those things might factor in? Of course they do. Factor them all in and it is like the say in basketball; "In your face"!

[SubCmdr]

I have no Vendetta against you little fella I just know who and what you are.

Actually, you just think you know who and what I am Mr. Keyboard warrior. That is ok with me. Because I am not worried about what you think.

Mess Boy, you are one of the saddest folks I have ever seen on a message Board about Thailand, and I go back to the old days of the Nanaplaza forum.

Obsessed with the Klan I see, again the white hood imagry. Beyond the fact that such references mark you as even more of a bufoon that your posts in general show, I wonder, is their some psychological inadequacy involved, or projection, or trauma? You should seek help and your not going to get it in Pattaya banging Coconut Bar girls.

[Nyezhov]

White Hoodie Wearing Mother Fucker.

It is good to have opinions, but no one really cares about your personal vendetta against me and nearly everyone who posts in general in the Thailand threads. Although I do appreciate that you read every word of my posts and respond to them. Your desire to be a self appointed self help guru for everyone posting here is laudable but really unneeded. Calling me a Mess Boy, Pimp, Abuser trying to say I'm from cities in your country of origin that you find objectionable, mark you as person that has some inner insecurities that have not been addressed. Furthermore, the fact that you do exactly as I do (pay prostitutes for sex) shows you to be an individual who is deeply conflicted about his own personal activities..

I have no Vendetta against you little fella I just know who and what you are.