Pattaya Reports

[Sam Sanuk]

Mainstream Agogos.

Since when are Thais of any kind being allowed in. There would be Hell to pay as they really aren't cool with Foreigner s soiling their Girls.

My answer is "as long as I can remember" (and that is as long ago as 30 years and as recently as 6 years).

This is based on first-hand experience; that is, knowing the Thais who have visited Cowboy with me. Also, some upper middle / lower "high class" Khmer dudes. One held a Secretary position in the Thaksin Adminstration. (And, I don't mean a "clerk-typist. LOL) Another was a Thai whose father was the Thai Ambassador to a European country.) Another, an assistant professor at a well-known Thai uni. The Khmer were very successful entrepeneurs and government officials in Cambodia.

Generalizations aside, can be very difficult to really know whether a person is Thai, Khmer, or even Filipino. Even among those groups, they can have difficulty in identifying nationality just by appearance.

Now, in only one case did any of them barfine a "dancer". They were just curious about the scene and all thoroughly enjoyed the evenings. In the one case when one of the Thais did barfine, the mamasan explained that the girl could not be seen leaving with him. He was told that the girl could have a boyfriend in the area and it could make for a problem. She did not want to set a precedent. (Maybe the boyfriend would think she was going to get a lower payment. Ha ha ha) I should note that he did choose a "stunner"; what you might call "the pick of the litter". LOL.

In the handful of occasions of which I speak, not once were my Thai or Khmer friends refused entry or service or ignored by the girls at the biggest and "best" bars on Cowboy.

Sam.

[FFlintstone69]

Cognition is important here. I stated "Whether you like it or not farang will always pay more than Thai. " How does one read this and conclude that the writer is OK being charged more than others. If you read someone stating: "Whether you like it or not if you go to the swamp you will be bitten by mosquitoes" are you going to conclude that the writer is ok being bitten by mosquitoes?

No one likes to pay more than another for the same thing but lets not allow anxiety about overpaying to get the better of us.

Well firstly you are clearly suggesting we just accept defeat.

As opposed to suggesting one complain about it and does something about it.

In response I will always low ball the shit out of them and find other ways to undercut their cheating ie.

Buy way less drinks or zero, whenever possible cut the bar out of the equation, and never ever tip the hookers.

Constantly look for ways to offset the fuckery of their cheating and scamming, that's what I do ie.

They cheat me out of 1000 thb, OK that's cool I'm going to look for ways to.

Offset that and come out even further ahead LMAO.

Pay backs are a MOFO.

[FFlintstone69]

NEWSFLASH: You're not in Kansas anymore. Many of your preconceived western ideas of right and wrong, discrimination, business plans, and equal opportunity should be forgotten as soon as you enter Thailand. Different pricing for Thais and foreigner is a well accepted policy at various parks, private beaches, and businesses, why would that policy not be extended to hookers?

https://12go.asia/en/post/1336/thai-...for-foreigners

https://www.bangkokpost.com/opinion/...s-tourists-off

https://www.tripadvisor.ca/ShowTopic...hiang_Mai.html

[Turgid]

You wrote.

Whether you like it or not farang will always pay more than Thai.

This implies you are ok with being charged more than others even though the man below just posted if a Thai is in a GoGo he probably has money, probably even more than you.

Being charged more than anyone else is never a good thing.

(how what a Thai pays impacts him is always irrelevant, NEWSFLASH all that matters is how what we pay impacts us).

(Go into a top tier Go Go and tell me the high end price gouging is ok because it impacts your imaginary Thai customer even more even if he's charged way less).

This is the most irrational way of looking at price discrimination I've ever seen.

Cognition is important here. I stated "Whether you like it or not farang will always pay more than Thai. " How does one read this and conclude that the writer is ok being charged more than others. If you read someone stating: "Whether you like it or not if you go to the swamp you will be bitten by mosquitoes" are you going to conclude that the writer is ok being bitten by mosquitoes?

No one likes to pay more than another for the same thing but lets not allow anxiety about overpaying to get the better of us.

[HorseTrader]

You wrote.

Whether you like it or not farang will always pay more than Thai.

This implies you are ok with being charged more than others even though the man below just posted if a Thai is in a GoGo he probably has money, probably even more than you.

Being charged more than anyone else is never a good thing.

(how what a Thai pays impacts him is always irrelevant, NEWSFLASH all that matters is how what we pay impacts us).

(Go into a top tier Go Go and tell me the high end price gouging is ok because it impacts your imaginary Thai customer even more even if he's charged way less).

This is the most irrational way of looking at price discrimination I've ever seen.

NEWSFLASH: You're not in Kansas anymore. Many of your preconceived western ideas of right and wrong, discrimination, business plans, and equal opportunity should be forgotten as soon as you enter Thailand. Different pricing for Thais and foreigner is a well accepted policy at various parks, private beaches, and businesses, why would that policy not be extended to hookers?

[LocalExplorer]

Mainstream Agogos.

Since when are Thais of any kind being allowed in. There would be Hell to pay as they really aren't cool with Foreigner s soiling their Girls.

I don't know how things are really supposed to be, I just report what I see and experience.

So these guys and gals seemed cool with me having my fun even more than the other mongers. Yes, it was a bit strange. I didn't check their IDs, but I did talk to them for a minute or two. One group was upstairs in Kink. If I remember correctly, they were two women, and two men (with one of the men not really talking to me, he moved away). One of the waitresses also confirmed they were Thai as we were talking and they were ordering the drinks for me, themselves and one or two girls at the same time. A day or two later I bumped into one of the women off Buakhao (I'm 90% sure), she waved to me and smiled, which creeped me out a bit. She was sitting behind the wheel of an SUV. So I don't think it's a stretch to assume she and her friends were rich by Thai standards.

The other group was in Coco a gogo off Walking Street, the club with the all-white decorations and lights. They were definitely spending on the drinks and girls, and the drink for me. I asked them about their nationality too. Then there was a third group, but I can't recall where, as I kind of got used to the idea. And I did see similar mixed-sex Asian groups a few times more from afar, though I can't be sure if they were all Thai.

Two years ago there was a 50-year old Thai man (or so he told me) upstairs in Kink, he told me he came out of curiosity, and he was encouraging me strongly to do some naughty stuff with the girls. That creeped me out too, as he spoke good English, and seemed fit in a way consistent with an army officer or policeman (he kept very straight etc.) And the club was half-empty. Call me paranoid, but I decided not to push my luck back then.

[Explorer8939]

Mainstream Agogos.

Since when are Thais of any kind being allowed in. There would be Hell to pay as they really aren't cool with Foreigner s soiling their Girls.

The post was pretty good until he wrote about Thai HiSos going to GoGos.

Unless they own the GoGo.

[Mr Enternational]

At the airport, went upstairs and walked outside as usual for a taxi. First dude asked where I was going and I said Pattaya. He said let's go. I said how much. He said 900. Dude next to him butted in 800. Let's go. I guess it is either a buyer's market or maybe this is a 5th tier taxi.

[Forty Drinks]

HR manager at Goodfellas. Soi 6.

Imagine it was you. You have to tell the three 300 pound short dark skin girls your services are no longer welcomed.

I wouldn't be able to do it. What if they ask WHY. Hahaha.

[Forty Drinks]

Chill People.

Inflation is not Coming Down.

2nd tier girls are not going for 1,000.

If their are 5 tiers. 5th tier Wins. 5th tier for 1,000 be Mr Alex Trebe k.

[FFlintstone69]

I am not a defeatist, I'm a realist. What do you mean doomed? The money a Thai dude pays a wg, although less than what a farang pays, hurts him much more than the greater amount the farang pays hurts the farang.

You wrote.

Whether you like it or not farang will always pay more than Thai.

This implies you are ok with being charged more than others even though the man below just posted if a Thai is in a GoGo he probably has money, probably even more than you.

Being charged more than anyone else is never a good thing.

(how what a Thai pays impacts him is always irrelevant, NEWSFLASH all that matters is how what we pay impacts us).

(Go into a top tier Go Go and tell me the high end price gouging is ok because it impacts your imaginary Thai customer even more even if he's charged way less).

This is the most irrational way of looking at price discrimination I've ever seen.

[Turgid]

With a defeatist attitude like yours we are all doomed.

I am not a defeatist, I'm a realist. What do you mean doomed? The money a Thai dude pays a wg, although less than what a farang pays, hurts him much more than the greater amount the farang pays hurts the farang.

[LocalExplorer]

You're not showing anything but a 7-11 shirt, show her face bro.

Actually, getting girls who have a day job is a very good tactic, I did that too, including a girl who used to work in a 7-Eleven. They're not as hardened, they don't get tons of advice from friends / coworkers about how to milk you more effectively, and they don't have the time to do the planning either. And they're more likely to go for the customer they already know rather then the highest bidder, because it's less of a hassle and guaranteed enough sleep before the day shift.

If you're looking for a girl like that, skip all the ones who are posting pictures from sex venues (beer bars, gogos, Soi 6), pics from exclusive parties and / or where they're really well dressed, with professional make-up, in an expensive apartment etc. That usually means that not only is it their full-time profession rather than a gig, but also they're very comfortable with it. Girls who work during the day will not want to meet at all hours, they'll answer messages with delay in the morning / afternoon, and will probably mention something about their shift during a meeting.

By the way, I have been chatted up by 2 or 3 female 7-Eleven employees, offering to "teach me some Thai" and the like. I'm pretty sure they would be open to quickly switch and teach me French, Greek and many other "languages"! But the fact is, they were all just too ugly for me. You can be on the lookout for hotter ones, but on TF you at least know they're willing and able.

[LocalExplorer]

OK, some more tales / advice coming to you from Pattaya. This time about customer types.

There's the East Asian customer, too often blamed for all things wrong in Pattaya. Actually, that's not my experience. I've seen dozens of them drinking by themselves or in small groups and being extremely assertive about not buying LDs. I was quietly cheerleading for them! When they get ripped off, sooner or later we all suffer! I haven't seen considerable money being thrown around, but I suspect the Koreans and Japanese have on average shorter holidays, so they might be less picky about when they really start paying, due to simple time constraints. Most of them are a bit younger than the average farang, I'd say typically aged 35-50. Very few would qualify as "hot", that's also a bit of a myth.

The Lone Russian. Russians abound, not only on Jomtien, but also around Second Road / CentralPattaya Festival. They rarely go into sex venues, but a small percentage of a large number is still noticeable. On a Friday night between 9-11 PM I found myself in multiple gogos, filled exclusively with lone Russians aged 35-40, and non of them was buying LDs. I guess it makes sense for them, it's the cheapest form of entertainment in Pattaya. However, this usually meant that despite not being Russian, I would still get classified as "another one of them", and attention from girls was limited to say the least. I understand, the girls have to profile the customers somehow. Just be aware of it when you pop your head into a gogo.

The Rich Thai. Yes, they exists, and they go to gogos. The giveaway are mixed-sex Asian group, good clothing, and most of all light skin (pointed out to me by working girls). The rich Thai are never shocked by what they see and they come to have fun. They buy LDs. On 3 different occasions they bought ME a drink, usually accompanied by a quote along the lines of "We like the way you are having fun". I dunno if those were status statements, but who cares, the important part was that I had more booze. Unfortunately, their ladies do not get carried away and do not strip.

By the way, from conversations with the ladies I've noticed skin tone is extremely important for the Thais. If you're like me and don't care about it, it might be a good tactic to actually prefer the dark-skinned girls whenever possible. They're just as nice and good looking, but they probably try harder.

I should write also about The Dumb Farang, The Old Farang, and the Thai Escort (to a farang), perhaps I missed a few more.

[LoveItHere69]

He not only claims it, but he shows it too. She makes 600 baht all day at 7-Eleven. She makes 1200 baht all night with me.

Your pix show nothing. No face. No body shape. Minimum would be a tight body fitting dress minus the face or better a bikini picture. A lot of what you post is pretty much correct when talking about hotels, transportation, ATM / money, etc. The problem is as soon as you talk about yourself it turns to 90% BS. The worst part is you actually believe all your self hype.