Pattaya Reports

[ThatGuy101]

It is sad reality these freelancers are hired by a bar or a number of them but the police, media making sure names arent throw out. Hopefully just making them apology and claiming they are going to face charges regardless happens but don't hold our breath.

In the end is it really worth it pay the bill which is what is written one guy had a problem. It was reported one farang struck first and as of now refuse to press any charges.

Maybe she was on the phone with the other bar to send security over it's all speculation as we weren't getting to many details at the moment but maybe just maybe the girl got them to rack up a bill of lady drinks than refused to be bar fined (golden rule one drink rule always ask if she's open to be bar fined) maybe that's why the disagreement followed by one of the friend on his bill or maybe they padded his bill we can't say for sure but yes always just pay your bill and never go back if you were scammed lesson learnt but getting a beat down that brutal over 110 $ Canadian bucks (2800 bhatt) is not worth it and one article says he's in the ICU in serious condition with no more updates but than u saw a video of him getting up so who really knows. I personally thing he’s in the hospital that’s why the Thai police were quick to arrest the guards I think the bar should be held responsible for the guards actions they should've called the police not send in blood thirsty goons to brutal assaults someone that bad. Just intimidation and they were judge jury and Executioner.. laws for a reason let the police handle it

[LittleBigMan]

Some article mentioned them as freelancers. In the video that starts inside, it seems she (mamasan) is contacting someone by phone. This is the point when the customer is irate in front of her. Soon after the guards came running in from another place.

It is sad reality these freelancers are hired by a bar or a number of them but the police, media making sure names arent throw out. Hopefully just making them apology and claiming they are going to face charges regardless happens but don't hold our breath.

In the end is it really worth it pay the bill which is what is written one guy had a problem. It was reported one farang struck first and as of now refuse to press any charges.

[Explorer8939]

There's a video circulating of two Brits being beaten by the security thugs on soi 6 in front of Helicopter.

I've read comments that one of them died after receiving a head quick while on the ground.

The violence used by these fat thugs is trully disgusting.

It is said the guys punched a girl in the face and didn't pay the bill but I've not seen any evidence.

Monger safely everyone and don't ever get in trouble with these fat thugs, it's still better to be scammed than beaten to death by these fat *ssholes.

The alleged dead guy was found on video walking back to his hotel shortly afterwards.

There is another video showing his departure from the scene.

[ThatGuy101]

Everyone knows about security guard attacks but what didn't make the headlines is the dude walking with his girl friend to 7/11 at 430 am in Phuket when he saw a fellow Brit tourist getting ganged by bunch of locals so he went over to what was happening he ended up getting stabbed and stumbling into the 7/11 went to the counter with blooding coming out his mouth trying ask for help but couldn't talk and collapsed on the floor and to undergo surgery.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13437475/amp/Brit-stabbed-break-fight-gang-attack-tourist-Thailand.html

[ThatGuy101]

No the whole altercation started in the bar, 3 on 2, but the fat friend of the guy in white shirt was useless. He was too slow and let his friend being cornered by the 3 pigs and they both got KO'd 3 on 1 and 3 on 1.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1ClOSlyhEY

The rumors of a girl being punched was probably bullshit, they would have been jumped directly in the bar if it was true.

I've seen the video of the mamasan explaining what happened (in Thai), and it all started because of the bill.

They were 2 customers at first and paid their bill regularly but it seems another guy joined them (a fat guy, not clear if it's the same on the video) and this guy moved from table to table and accepted to pay some ladydrinks.


The guy in white shirt paid all his bills and upon leaving one of the stupid girls realized there is one bill not paid and went to them and told them to pay the bill (probably using unappropriated words).

The guy told her he paid everything already. They then told him, yes you have paid but you're friend didn't pay. The guy got angry and called the mamasan a liar and scammer.

It seems his friend was ready to pay the bill but white shirt guy didn't let him do it (probably felt they were being scammed). Then another of his friends (maybe the guy in blue shirt in the vid) verbally and physically assaulted other customers (taking one customer's phone off his hand thinking he was being filmed) and making other customers flee the bar.

That's when she called the 3 security pigs to come in because they didn't want to pay the bill and felt that the guy in white shirt got so angry that he could have hit her too.

It seems the guy that got KO'd didn't do anything wrong, felt scammed and didn't want to back down when the 3 pigs arrived.

I watched one video online it's been removed now I believe but it was CTV footage inside the bar didn't look like he hit that chick on the face at all. When the 3 thugs showed up his friend was holding them back tryna de-escalate it but they were just running up on the guy they weren't there to talk that's pretty obvious when it went outside they beat the shit put him than same thing happened to his friend 2 dudes just kicking the shit out of him while ones on full mount punching his face in non stop than after they finish him the one dude Went Wwe Randy Orton (not even joking) and did the punt kick on his dudes skull he later motionless after that his friend tried to get back up to his feet the (the one who was tryna de-escalate) and one of thugs was still tryna beat him up the bar girls on the street all started holding the thugs back even they knew that was way to much the guy almost didn't stop I think the bar lied about him hitting the girl etc so it wouldn't hurt their business / jobs and to protect the security guards. The business for sure should've called the police not 3 thugs looking for a fight.

[Paolo99]

Indeed on the vid it looked like they were coming from outside didn't it?

No the whole altercation started in the bar, 3 on 2, but the fat friend of the guy in white shirt was useless. He was too slow and let his friend being cornered by the 3 pigs and they both got KO'd 3 on 1 and 3 on 1.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1ClOSlyhEY

The rumors of a girl being punched was probably bullshit, they would have been jumped directly in the bar if it was true.

I've seen the video of the mamasan explaining what happened (in Thai), and it all started because of the bill.

They were 2 customers at first and paid their bill regularly but it seems another guy joined them (a fat guy, not clear if it's the same on the video) and this guy moved from table to table and accepted to pay some ladydrinks.

The guy in white shirt paid all his bills and upon leaving one of the stupid girls realized there is one bill not paid and went to them and told them to pay the bill (probably using unappropriated words).

The guy told her he paid everything already. They then told him, yes you have paid but you're friend didn't pay. The guy got angry and called the mamasan a liar and scammer.

It seems his friend was ready to pay the bill but white shirt guy didn't let him do it (probably felt they were being scammed). Then another of his friends (maybe the guy in blue shirt in the vid) verbally and physically assaulted other customers (taking one customer's phone off his hand thinking he was being filmed) and making other customers flee the bar.

That's when she called the 3 security pigs to come in because they didn't want to pay the bill and felt that the guy in white shirt got so angry that he could have hit her too.

It seems the guy that got KO'd didn't do anything wrong, felt scammed and didn't want to back down when the 3 pigs arrived.

[Mr Enternational]

There was another report but the three did not name the clubs or clubs they work for that the three or group are Freelancer thst provide security for a number of clubs on 6.

Some article mentioned them as freelancers. In the video that starts inside, it seems she (mamasan) is contacting someone by phone. This is the point when the customer is irate in front of her. Soon after the guards came running in from another place.

[Banana Boi]

It's making the international headlines right now. I hope it doesn't lead to some suppression of Soi 6 as a whole.

We know what happened the last time something on Soi 6 made international headlines. That guy banging a girl on the counter right along Soi 6 destroyed Soi 6 as we know it. Before that HJ and BJ was a real thing on Soi 6 for girls you buy a drink for.

[XXL]

There was another report but the three did not name the clubs or clubs they work for that the three or group are Freelancer thst provide security for a number of clubs on 6.

Indeed on the vid it looked like they were coming from outside didn't it?

It's making the international headlines right now. I hope it doesn't lead to some suppression of Soi 6 as a whole.

[LittleBigMan]

Nigh Wish replied to this (in the comment section) on Youtube, emphasizing the club (I think Helicopter club) was NOT a Night Wish group.

There was another report but the three did not name the clubs or clubs they work for that the three or group are Freelancer thst provide security for a number of clubs on 6.

[XXL]

It was also reported that the security goons were paid by the Night Wish Group. Another reason not to go to a Night Wish bar anymore.

The video shows a farang lying on the ground and no longer moving. A Night Wish security idiot runs up to him and kicks him in the head. I hope he didn't die.

Nigh Wish replied to this (in the comment section) on Youtube, emphasizing the club (I think Helicopter club) was NOT a Night Wish group.

[MadDin19]

There's a video circulating of two Brits being beaten by the security thugs on soi 6 in front of Helicopter.

I've read comments that one of them died after receiving a head quick while on the ground.

The violence used by these fat thugs is trully disgusting.

It is said the guys punched a girl in the face and didn't pay the bill but I've not seen any evidence.

Monger safely everyone and don't ever get in trouble with these fat thugs, it's still better to be scammed than beaten to death by these fat *ssholes.

It was also reported that the security goons were paid by the Night Wish Group. Another reason not to go to a Night Wish bar anymore.

The video shows a farang lying on the ground and no longer moving. A Night Wish security idiot runs up to him and kicks him in the head. I hope he didn't die.

[MadDin19]

So now let's compare pricing for a night out at Oase vs a night out at gogo bars. (my numbers may be well dated).

FKK Oase.
Entry 65 (300 for 5 entries).
Drinks and LD. ZERO!
Decent food for the day. ZERO!
2 girls - 200 give or take.
Hours of fun 17 (11 am til 4 am)
Total - 18,500 baht.

Gogo bar.
Entry. Zero.
Food at comparable food quality restaurants for the day 2000 baht.
Drinks - 1000 baht.
LD - 2200 baht (over 2 visits). This number can be WAY higher.
BF (2 x ST) - 3000 baht.
Girls (2 x) - 6000 baht.
Hours of fun 6 (8 pm til 2 am or so)
Total 14,200 baht.

Sorry, but comparing the prices in Germany with the prices in Thailand is nonsense.

A normal worker in Germany earns 100 EUR per day, a Thai worker 10 EUR. A kilo of boneless chicken costs 10 EUR in Germany and 2 EUR in Thailand, etc.

It would be fair if an ST anywhere in the world cost as much as a worker earns in a day.

In Germany an ST would then cost 100 EUR and in Thailand 400 Baht. This would be fair.

The prices that are now being quoted in Pattaya are purely a rip-off of tourists. And as long as there are idiots who pay, it will continue like this.

[Banana Boi]

Thanks PFI. I haven't been to a FKK in years nor do I read the Germany FKK forum of the same person replying to himself under multiple handles. Was considering going next Spring but you have just made is abundantly clear to me that Germany is out forever. My approach in Thailand is also very different than most "tourists". I do not pay barfines or buy tons of LD's just to get a girl to go with me. On occasion I may rack up a bigger drink bill than anyone wants to admit to but none of that bill will be for a barfine or because a girl wanted 10/20/40 drinks before she would go with me.

The bottom line is neither of these 2 places should be tops in your sex destination. They are both pricing themselves out of the market for top talent. Now if you want average or below average girls then both countries still have lots of options like Soi 6, Beach Road or Soi 25 in Thailand or Totalclub Osnabruck for 35 euro for 30 minutes or the AO clubs.

[PayForIt]

So now let's compare pricing for a night out at Oase vs a night out at gogo bars. (my numbers may be well dated).

FKK Oase.
Entry 65 (300 for 5 entries).
Drinks and LD. ZERO!
Decent food for the day. ZERO!
2 girls - 200 give or take.
Hours of fun 17 (11 am til 4 am)
Total - 18,500 baht.

Gogo bar.
Entry. Zero.
Food at comparable food quality restaurants for the day 2000 baht.
Drinks - 1000 baht.
LD - 2200 baht (over 2 visits). This number can be WAY higher.
BF (2 x ST) - 3000 baht.
Girls (2 x) - 6000 baht.
Hours of fun 6 (8 pm til 2 am or so)
Total 14,200 baht.

Sorry but the figures are just miles off being correct (and in fairness, you started by saying your prices could be dated which is true). Current prices at Oase (at least based on my trip there in the last 3 days!) are 150 euros / hour minimum with the best looking girls wanting and regularly achieving 200/ hour. I assume you are comparing with top agogo girls from the pricing you provided (I was in Thailand for a month 2 weeks in Pattaya in April and 3000+3000 is for top quality girls though for balance some wanted more - I asked one of the few truly beautiful girls in Sapphire her prices and she wanted 5000 so I declined without even asking about the BF). Sad thing is, when in Thailand it is hard to make the price comparison and act accordingly. I say that because 5000 is only €126 and that is very cheap in Europe for a stunning working girl). But based on your comparison meaning for top girls, then I agree your 14,200 (about 374 euros) for the entire night inc drinks and BF - 8 pm to 2 pm.
So 6 hours.

Now compare the price in Oase. For top girls, they will want 200 each per hour. Thats 400 euros the same 6 hours = 2400 euros, plus 65 entry = 2465 euros = just short of…..wait for it……a whopping 98,000 baht. Thats for an equal amount of time (6 hours).

In your example you make the time with the agogo girls 6 hours or so but allowed 17 hours in the FKK clubs. Thats not a fair comparison. I accept that you can enter Oase at 11 am and stay until 4 pm (and BTW I love Oase in the summer months and many naked girls walking around the pool in high heels etc) but nobody goes to rooms with ladies in an FKK for 17 hours. So I based my calculations on about the same time in a room, which I think is comparing apples with apples, Pattaya is far cheaper.

There are other factors in play here: FKKs can have a LOT of extras, for BBBJ in many places after the 2017 law. Ok in a lot its gone back to normal but not in all (Artemis in Berlin is a rigid 20 extra for BBBJ), CIM - 50 extra, COF or COB often extra, BDSM 50 extra, anal 100 extra. If you are into any of these activities an FKK for 6 hours with 2 girls is quickly going to become very expensive indeed - and the 374 euros/ 14,200 baht will easily be used up in only one hour (200/e/hour x 2 girls).

So attendance at an FKK for 17 hours could work out incredibly expensive (and boring!)
I understand your approach is that a guy can have a sexy/naughty day for 17 hours if he wants and I suppose if he only sessioned for 2 hours he could do that with two beauties with no extras for 400 - not much more than for 6 hours with two agogo stunners. But if you wanted to try to match 17 hours in Pattaya for a day / evening of total naughty fun, you could add a massage or two, hands on fun in say Windmill or Kink, and you’d have a lot of fun in that 17 hours including your 6 with the two stunners from Pin Up! So far more action that you got in the FKK where you were only actually doing anything other than watching/ogling/eating/sleeping for 17 hours.

Don't get me wrong. I love both options. And if forced to choose, I would favour the FKK in summer. Just an incredible experience being surrounded by 100+ naked ladies (not that many now in Oase but there were in the golden days).

Making these types of comparisons is therefore very tough. But on current pricing models, a long day of sexy time in Pattaya remains incredibly cheaper than in FKK Clubs.