American Politics

[Elvis 2008]

So while Repubs continue "to beat their chests", over a slight uptick in the (fake) polls, with Black and Brown voters, they fail to realize their blind-spot in 2024. The killer surge in the WOMEN'S VOTE!, for Joe Biden and Democrats, to uphold their freedoms and rights to bodily autonomy.

As a "Republican Libertarian", I would think you'd see this coming? But then again, Tiny 12, wasn't Nikki Haley your choice for the Repub rep?

PS: Besides, nobody in their right mind, wants Trump, as the 2x impeached, 4x indicted, convict, felon, serial liar, tax cheat, wife cheat, golf cheat, business cheat, racist, wannabe dictator, pussy-grabbing, misogynist, porn-star fucking loser, as President of the USA....NOBODY in their right mind want that! Or whatever lackey sycophant he appoints!

https://www.reuters.com/legal/us-sup...ll-2024-06-13/

The justices, two years after ending the recognition of a constitutional right to abortion, ruled 9-0 to overturn a lower court's decision to roll back USA Food and Drug Administration steps in 2016 and 2021 that eased how the drug, called mifepristone, is prescribed and distributed. The decision was authored by conservative Justice Brett Kavanaugh.

The pill, given FDA regulatory approval in 2000, is used in more than 60% of USA Abortions.

The justices ruled that the plaintiffs, who sued in Texas in 2022, lacked the necessary legal standing to pursue the case, which required that they show they have been harmed in a way that can be traced to the FDA.

The Supreme Court, which has a 6-3 conservative majority, in 2022 overturned its 1973 Roe v. Wade precedent that had legalized abortion nationwide, prompting 14 states to enact measures banning or sharply restricting the procedure.

End of link. Oh, wait, you mean that idiotic notion that SCOTUS was a bunch of women hating Republican losers who wanted women stuck in the kitchen at all costs was not true. Heaven forbid SCOTUS does what it is supposed to: interpret law versus make it up. This ruling shows on abortion SCOTUS did exactly what it should have. The mistake was SCOTUS making abortion law.

And 14 states modified abortion law? There goes the notion of abortions being crazy hard to get, and women know that now. I would ask what else you got, but it keeps getting worse for you douches. Speaking of made up crime, former AG and governor of New York just blasted the NY courts for the Trump conviction on Bill Maher's show: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-015xtUSxA.

I like the fact that the poster of this video shows the clips of Hiliary lying her ass off in contrast as to what happened to Trump. Hiliary actually committed a crime.

Thing is while Trump went across the customary line for personal insults, he abided by the line of not prosecuting political opponents and did not go after Hiliary when he could have. In fact, after all the insults once the election was over, he called the Clintons good people. It took real effort to turn Trump into a reasonable and compassionate person, but you douches did that. Hell, you even did the impossible. You turned a billionaire cheating on his wife into a victim.

Why don't you go back and start lecturing us on how great the American economy is from where ever you are living? Where is that? China? Brazil? Seeing as how in your economy all that matters is those SS checks keep coming, Biden's inflation has been a godsend for you. With nose bleed American inflation, those SS checks keep getting bigger and bigger.

[Spidy]

In your own words, ....kkkkk! This is how I replied to one of your posts:

(...kkkk!) They say imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. I'll take that as compliment!

My point was that most Democrats believe Trump's a world class racist. If so, then why is he polling better with black Americans than any Republican presidential candidate over the last 60 years? Why is he polling better among Hispanics than Biden? Where I live there are more Hispanics than whites and Trump beat Biden by 57 percentage points in 2020. Apparently there are a lot of Blacks and Hispanics who do not believe Trump is a racist.

I wasn't enthusiastic about Nikki Haley because she's a neoconservative. I'd sure take her over Biden or Trump though. She'd beat Biden like a drum in a general election.

Repubs and their "Red Wave" election polls (...kkkk!)

And the latest breed of Repubs, just love to wallow in their hypo-patheticals (Nikki Haley...kkkk!), especially when they can't win at the ballot-box!

[Tiny 12]

It's times like these, when Repubs love to "beat their chests, like a red gorillas in heat", at how wonderful these (fake) polls have them "winning", in an election yet to be decided at the ballot-box, that I'm ultimately reminded of the 2022 Midterms and the so called "Red Wave", that turned into the "Pick Trickle"(....kkkk!)

So here Repubs are "beating their chests", pre-2022 Midterms and gloating about a "Red Wave" and "Red Tsunami":


AND THEN this happened:



And to complete the analogy,...the "red gorillas, beating their chests", suddenly turn, back into angry squabbling chimpanzees.

Now you should know, I'm not one for the polls w/r to elections. So for me...Seeing is believing!

So until Repubs, actual drive Black voters to turnout on avg. of 12% to 8% plus or more, for them at the ballot-box, I'll stick with the historically actual factual numbers, where on avg. 82% of Black voters, have voted for Democrats.

But as the Vox article noted, then "Dobbs" happened!

So while Repubs continue "to beat their chests", over a slight uptick in the (fake) polls, with Black and Brown voters, they fail to realize their blind-spot in 2024. The killer surge in the WOMEN'S VOTE!, for Joe Biden and Democrats, to uphold their freedoms and rights to bodily autonomy.

As a "Republican Libertarian", I would think you'd see this coming? But then again, Tiny 12, wasn't Nikki Haley your choice for the Repub rep?

In your own words, ....kkkkk! This is how I replied to one of your posts:

Despite the polls, Trump probably will lose. On one hand, a majority of Americans have more faith in Trump's economic policies, and Biden is a feeble opponent. On the other hand, Democrats are mad as hell because of abortion and because Trump tried to steal an election. The Democrats are more motivated to vote. I believe that will give them the edge.

My point was that most Democrats believe Trump's a world class racist. If so, then why is he polling better with black Americans than any Republican presidential candidate over the last 60 years? Why is he polling as well among Hispanics as Biden? Where I live there are more Hispanics than whites and Trump beat Biden by 57 percentage points in 2020. Apparently there are a lot of Blacks and Hispanics who do not believe Trump is a racist.

I wasn't enthusiastic about Nikki Haley because she's a neoconservative. I'd sure take her over Biden or Trump though. She'd beat Biden like a drum in a general election.

[Tiny 12]

If you read some research into % of wrongly convicted, it comes to about 5% in criminal cases. https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/magazin...of-conviction/.

I'm going to assume that the jurors got it right, and that he's not one of the 5%. Time will tell with appeals. Haven't got your take on the 34 guity verdict. I've only been responding to your take on the State of NY V. DJT.

I agree with this sentiment that it is not ideal. So, what we do in a democracy is try to fix these inadequacies by writing legislations to address these problems, over time. You can urge your congressman / senators to write these legislations. That's how it will be fixed.

I love it when other people try to tell me what I think without actually asking and / or listening to me LOL! And no, Chump has lost in both civil and criminal trials, not because he isn't liked, but because the prosecutions / plaintiffs presented the facts in a way to convince the triers of fact, either by a preponderance of the evidence or beyond a reasonable doubt, to decide against Chump. The legal system and the rule of law at work. Chump is not above the law and must pay dearly for his wrongs against other people and the nation. And guess what? If and when the other cases go to trial he's going to lose those too! The idiot is his own worst enemy, he's been a loser throughout his entire career if you look at it closely, and he makes it just oh so easy for the other side to beat him down. Because you see, he's incredibly stupid! Which is so ironic since he called everybody else stupid. He could get started with smartening up by buttoning up his big mouth! Of course, we know he won't do that. I say again. Be patient. The other shoes are going to drop. Chump isn't done getting his!

My argument isn't that Trump didn't break the law, in the Deutsche Bank and Stormy Daniels / Karen McDougal cases. Or that the hundreds of thousands of people incarcerated for, say, drug use didn't break the law. It's that the laws in question can provide for overly harsh penalties, are stupid, and / or shouldn't be applied the way they are by prosecutors.

I agree with you Checkmate that the politicians should work on fixing this. And I agree with you Cane that Trump is his own worst enemy.

[Spidy]

Here's CNN's numbers guy, Harry Enten, describing how "we're careening towards a historic performance (among black voters) for a Republican President the likes of which we haven't seen in six decades!"

https://www.foxnews.com/video/6355179602112

Meanwhile Trump is leading Biden among Hispanics in a number of polls:

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/02/u...oll-shows.html Trump 46%, Biden 40%.

https://www.txhpf.org/2024/04/16/tex...-respectively/ Trump 41%, Biden 37%.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...no-voters-poll Trump 39%, Biden 34%.

https://www.cnbc.com/2023/12/19/trum...c-survey-.html Trump up by 5-points with Latino voters.

It's times like these, when Repubs love to "beat their chests, like a red gorillas in heat", at how wonderful these (fake) polls have them "winning", in an election yet to be decided at the ballot-box, that I'm ultimately reminded of the 2022 Midterms and the so called "Red Wave", that turned into the "Pick Trickle"(....kkkk!)

So here Repubs are "beating their chests", pre-2022 Midterms and gloating about a "Red Wave" and "Red Tsunami":

Signs that the Republican Party is riding a so-called "red wave" to success in the midterms appear to be coming to fruition, with a number of surveys showing the party increasing its lead over the Democrats in generic congressional polls.

The Red Wave Is Real, Here are Eight Polls That Prove It, Nov 3rd, 2022
https://www.newsweek.com/red-wave-go...ngress-1756599

AND THEN this happened:

Through the first half of 2022, polls and special election results indicated Democrats were on track for one of these midterm bruisings. Then the Supreme Courts Dobbs decision happened.

Why the red wave didn't come, Nov 10th, 2022
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-polit...enate-red-wave

And to complete the analogy,...the "red gorillas, beating their chests", suddenly turn, back into angry squabbling chimpanzees.

Now you should know, I'm not one for the polls w/r to elections. So for me...Seeing is believing!

So until Repubs, actual drive Black voters to turnout on avg. of 12% to 8% plus or more, for them at the ballot-box, I'll stick with the historically actual factual numbers, where on avg. 82% of Black voters, have voted for Democrats.

But as the Vox article noted, then "Dobbs" happened!

So while Repubs continue "to beat their chests", over a slight uptick in the (fake) polls, with Black and Brown voters, they fail to realize their blind-spot in 2024. The killer surge in the WOMEN'S VOTE!, for Joe Biden and Democrats, to uphold their freedoms and rights to bodily autonomy.

As a "Republican Libertarian", I would think you'd see this coming? But then again, Tiny 12, wasn't Nikki Haley your choice for the Repub rep?

PS: Besides, nobody in their right mind, wants Trump, as the 2x impeached, 4x indicted, convict, felon, serial liar, tax cheat, wife cheat, golf cheat, business cheat, racist, wannabe dictator, pussy-grabbing, misogynist, porn-star fucking loser, as President of the USA....NOBODY in their right mind want that! Or whatever lackey sycophant he appoints!

[Elvis 2008]

Getting slightly off topic, why is it that the state of California paid Kamala Harris a salary of up to $200,000 a year in todays money to bang Willie Brown? And neither had to answer for it? While Trumps facing years in prison on 34 felony convictions for the payoffs to Stormy Daniels and Karen McDougal when he didnt deserve so much as a slap on the wrist?

https://www.rasmusen.org/rasmapedia/...s_a_Prostitute

LOL. Yeah, the difference between Republicans and Democrats is Republicans use their own money to buy hookers and the Dems use taxpayer money.

Around 2008 to 2011, I strongly agreed with you about the bailouts. My opinion has since changed. I believe they may have avoided a much worse downturn, and the government mostly got its money back.

Instead of putting many banksters in jail for out right fraud, Obama got them to pledge allegiance to him and the Dems. So now you have the banking sector pushing the Democratic agenda with ESG scores and DEI initiatives, and the DEI shit is just flat out racist. Watch the video in this report: https://www.zerohedge.com/political/...re-white-males#google_vignette.

The only racism and sexism allowed these days is against white men. You have to ask why so many white males like Tooms and Spidy could be Dems then right? Thing is with guys like Spidy and Tooms, they are told, we are racist and sexist against the MAGA guys not you, and they are stupid enough to believe it. That is why they are douches.

So Disney focuses on DEI and ESG to get their stock price up, but it is not working. As of now, the money is flowing to the tech sector and a few companies being hyped with AI. I do not know if there is enough money in the world to justify the tech valuations as they are now.

*See how much better this sounds than Democrat Douches !

It is way better. Your post was objective and logical except for this part.

I've worked with two people who are like Trump, in terms of their narcissism and tendency to take advantage of other people. It was complete hell, and I'm not going to give my vote to someone like them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKkMWFRcsUQ Go the 45 second mark on that video. There is a 30 second short blurb from Larry Elder on why he supports Trump.

In some sense, if you are a politician, you have to be a narcissist. Thing with Trump is he has not sold his soul to his donors like the other pols have, but he has sold his soul when it comes to selling to his fellow narcissists and you sell to them differently than other people. So everything was the biggest and best. Others call it lying. Trump calls it useful hyperbole. It might bother people who think that is lying but for me it is just a sales technique.

Then you have the negotiating where you make a ridiculous offer before getting to a reasonable price. Hookers do this all the time too. So Trump may list a property worth $100 million as being worth $1 billion and sell it for $100 million. Thing is if a buyer gets the property for $100 million when he started at a billion he feels like he got a bargain. If Trump listed at $100 million and sold it for that, then the buyer feels he left money on the table. Time and again, I would see Trump pull this technique with Democrats and foreign countries and time and again, it worked. If you are negotiating, Trump wants you to think he is crazy not rational. That means you will take less.

The real and fair criticism with Trump though is he had to hog the spotlight. Outside of his family, he has not built a bench at all. You cannot do the job of being president alone, and in Biden's case, his bench is running the show, and it is not even a good bench. Trump had to borrow a lot from the Bush bench when he started out, and he has the potential to build a great one if he can mend fences with a lot of people who he has burned. I have seen growth in this area. It was kind of fun calling someone stupid when they were being stupid but you should not do that as president. I have seen growth in Trump sharing the spotlight, and I think Trump can be a great mentor if he sees value in that role. But the previous way he treated others has to stop. Trump needs to quit always having to be the center of attention and stop the thin skinned insult slinging. If that is why you do not want to vote for him Tiny, I get it. Like with Larry Elder though, Tiny, I would just ask that you look at where the ball lands.

[EihTooms]

Yes, anything can happen. But 3 days before the 1st of 2 historic presidential debates:

Who Is Favored To Win The 2024 Presidential Election?
June 23, 2024

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com...tion-forecast/

Biden wins 51 times out of 100
in our simulations of the 2024 presidential election.

Trump wins 48 times out of 100.

There is a less than 1-in-100 chance of no Electoral College winner.

Of course, Trump is not preparing in any way for this coming debate. Why bother to prepare when your opponent is "weak, feeble, confused, sleeping all the time, unable to put two words together, doesn't know who he is or where he is"?

Unless Trump has been lying to us about that for the past three years. That would be so unlike Trump.

Besides, all Trump needs to do is to explain that his 2nd Term plan is the same as his 1st Term plan:

[EihTooms]

Uh. Rasmussen's poll respondents are pre-selected for their pro Trump Wingerism posts and likes on Facebook.

Given that pre-selection, it is devastating news for Trump that even those virulent Trumpsters could not squeeze out a bigger loaf for him than a 10 point lead in a Head-to-Head and a 9 point lead in a 5-Way against Biden. Lolol.

https://www.breitbart.com/2024-elect...-on-joe-biden/

https://www.breitbart.com/the-media/...fClCqvtJHre6vg

https://www.breitbart.com/2024-elect...at-since-2004/

538 drops Rasmussen Reports from its analysis.

https://www.reddit.com/r/fivethirtye..._its_analysis/

Why are the Rasmussen Polls results so different from all the others?

https://www.quora.com/Why-are-the-Ra...all-the-others

Polling is a studied science.

Rasmussen is one laughingstock of the polling universe. (Note Rasmussen is not the only laughingstock, but they are probably the best known giggle, when it comes to the world of conducting polls.)

"Given that the temperature last Thursday, the 23rd of December, was below zero in most of the United States, how likely is it that you will support Joseph Bidens plan to combat Global Warming and Climate Change in the next election?"

Gulp.

That was a Rasmussen question. On Facebook. Those who saw it, and answered, did not even see the name Rasmussen anywhere. They were targeted, because of things they had written on Facebook in the past. They were pre-selected. Because they were already known to be a Trump supporter. They had no idea they were being counted, and they just knew they were clicking on a link and they only knew that it was freaking cold out, at that very moment..

[Tiny 12]

Is there anybody who wants a demented Joe Biden or Kamala Harris as president? Come on!

Getting slightly off topic, why is it that the state of California paid Kamala Harris a salary of up to $200,000 a year in todays money to bang Willie Brown? And neither had to answer for it? While Trumps facing years in prison on 34 felony convictions for the payoffs to Stormy Daniels and Karen McDougal when he didnt deserve so much as a slap on the wrist?

https://www.rasmusen.org/rasmapedia/...s_a_Prostitute

Those are rhetorical questions Elvis. You know the answer. It's because California and New York are run by Democrats. Democrats don't like Trump, but they love Kamala Harris and Willie Brown.

From the link, Brown's network of nonprofit groups and committees later paid Carolyn Carpeneti $2.33 million while the two were dating.

You've given some great advice in the Seeking Arrangement thread about how not to overpay sugarbabies. I guess that's irrelevant though when you're using other peoples' money.

Tiny, you have to look at Trump the movement versus Trump the man. As a man Trump is flawed as every man is. If you say Biden is virtuous and deserving, I would puke. After GWB and Obama, the people felt left behind. People saw HRC say one thing to the Goldman bankers and another to the people in the hood. In 2008, Obama had a much better handle on the Great Recession than McCain, but as soon as he got in power, none of the thieving bankers went to jail, and Obama was yucking it up with them a few months after being elected. He also sent his more progressive (it was not a dirty word in 2009) economists to the back of the bus and got a bunch of Washington and Wall Street insiders. If there was one exchange that epitomized this disconnect was billionaire Charlie Munger telling an average American to "suck it up" after the taxpayer backed bailouts to banksters like him came through.

Obama was going to win in 2012, and the Republicans could not have picked a worse candidate than Romney, another bankster creature. In 2016, Trump, a billionaire, was the anti-bankster. Finally, there was a guy with enough money to tell the truth, to offend the corporate thieves if need be. That is what people do not get. Oh, Trump is a thief. Really? Compared to the banks or MIC? Please!

The irony is the same thing was going on with Democrats. Bernie Sanders was the clean not corporate candidate. The problem is the primaries were not clean. If they were, Bernie is the Dem nominee in 2016 and 2020. Instead the Dems are chock full of superdelegates who the banksters have bought and paid for, and that means Biden in 2020 and HRC in 2016.

Unlike almost any other pol, Trump caught the populist, anti-bankster, anti-deep state wave and has ridden it better than anyone. It is not love for Trump but love for the movement that has been propelling Trump. Trump got caught up in the deep state bullshit that was Covid.

I know you disagree, but I think anyone who looks at the latest slew of emails and Fauci testimonies can see, we had an out of control NIH that funded creation of the Covid virus. I cannot think of anything that can piss us off more than elevating pandemic causing government dickhead, Anthony Fauci, at the expense of Trump. The vaccine worked great in the Spring of 2021, was partially effective that summer, and did not do shit by Fall of 2021. Instead of being honest about the vaccine, which would have hurt Big pharma pockets, this fucker Fauci pushed even MORE of the ineffective vaccine, and NIH scientists benefitted to the tune of billions. Just like with the great recession, those who caused the crisis were rewarded while the average American was screwed.

What got me is the divergence. No one supported the banks in 2008 but now due to censorship and spin, you have a large number of Democratic douches like Tooms who blame the pandemic on Trump and say "more government" would have been the solution. You even had this ridiculous government fan boy movement when Trump got elected.

People are not even voting for Trump. Lately, you are seeing the ultimate deep state douchery. The Dems / deep state are actually running a guy who cannot walk and talk. This entertainment writer is one of the most partisan hacks there is and here is what he wrote: https://lefsetz.com/wordpress/2024/0...-freeze-video/.

But we're told by believers to. Still believe. As if sheer will will change reality. This is no different from the religious right believing that prayer will solve all their problems. Can't anybody live in reality?

So let's say you're not sure who to vote for, the very few who will decide this election. You see this video and ask yourself. Is this guy up to the job? And if he dies in office do we want Kamala Harris?

Can't anybody live in reality, see what's right in front of their eyes? End of link.

Well, certainly over half of America does not believe the deep state bullshit. We see the attempt to keep Trump off the ballot in blue states, the civil trial against Trump in New York, the sheer idiocy of sending a SWAT team to the residence of a former president, and now this absolutely fucking asinine criminal case against Trump is a deep state admission that this demented, barely able to walk and talk shell of a man has no chance against Trump unless the deep state empties all its bag of tricks.

What I have learned from these Democratic douches is nothing is too much. Outside of an unexpected development, the only way Trump loses is if he is assassinated, and it is not just Tucker Carlson talking about it. You may prefer the term partisan Democrat to Democratic douches. Believe me, Democratic douches is not even strong enough.

These assholes have shown not one scintilla of remorse about all the anti-Democratic bullshit being sent Trump's way. They like to think it is about the man and not the movement which you just mistook as well. There is not a doubt in my body that with these assholes they would be cheering on Trump being killed by the deep state.

And these fucking stupid douches think that would be the end of it. The idea that killing Trump might mean they get killed is over their heads. They do not even get they are in the minority now. All the FBI is not on your side. All the CIA is not on your side. All the military is not on your side.

And you mean to tell me after the bullshit about the two impeachments, J6 and its lies, the censorship-social media complex, and this lawfare bullshit that 2020 was "the most fair" election in history? I have never seen the country on edge as it is now.

Another good post Elvis. As you know I don't agree with all of it. But it's thought provoking. You cant be pigeon-holed. Your views run the gamut, from left to right.

My preferred policies may be more in line with Trump's than yours are. You're more progressive on tax policy than he is. You're also to the right of him on COVID vaccines and lockdowns, although I'd argue those are non-issues now. You, Trump, Bernie Sanders and I more-or-less align on foreign policy. We don't like wars. Bernie and I would spend less on the military than Trump -- I'm not sure about you. On social issues, in his heart Trump is more liberal than what you'd think based on what comes out of his mouth. He probably rues outsourcing the selection of Supreme Court nominees to the Federalist Society, which resulted in the Dobbs abortion decisions. That's going to bring more Democrats than usual to the polls in November.

My major problems with him on policy are his tariffs, his propensity to spend like a drunken sailor, and his disregard for the effect of spending on the national debt. However, Bidens just as bad or worse on all these issues than Trump.

I've worked with two people who are like Trump, in terms of their narcissism and tendency to take advantage of other people. It was complete hell, and I'm not going to give my vote to someone like them. I didn't vote for George W. Bush as well because of character issues. I know two people who know G.W. According to them, he fits Ann Richard's description of his father (born with a silver spoon in his mouth) much more closely than G.H.W. Bush. Futhermore, one of their fathers, who knew Junior reasonably well, said something like "that impetuous son of a ***** is going to get us into a war if he's ever elected president." The father served in combat during the Korean conflict, so he knew something about war. Anyway, I didn't believe Trump or George W. Bush had the character to be president. I believe that history justified my beliefs. One of them got us into a needless war and the other tried to steal an election.

I agree with you that the 2020 election wasn't the fairest in history. Yes, there were undoubtedly a lot of violations of election law, and based on the Heritage Foundation voter fraud database, I bet several times more votes were stolen by Democrats than Republicans. But the fraud didn't come anywhere close to overturning the results. Through no fault of his own, Trump presided over one of the deepest, and shortest, recessions in the history of the USA. People vote their pocketbooks, and in the fall of 2020, they weren't in as good of shape as when Trump took office.

What did happen is that procedural rules were changed for mail in voting and the like, and that did work to hurt Republicans. Part of this was Trump's fault for telling people their vote wouldn't count if they didn't go to the polls on election day. That may have made the difference in the Georgia Senate runoffs in January, 2021, but I don't think it made a difference in the presidential election. Trump would have lost anyway.

While in general, I prefer deregulation over the alternative, I agree that financial companies were not and are not adequately regulated. That was the problem in 2008, and, contrary to the belief of our Partisan Democrat friends*, you can't lay all the blame on George W. Bush and Republicans. Furthermore, at that time, I recall reading that 20% of the profits of S&P 500 companies were realized by financial institutions. That's crazy! Finance should be the grease that lubricates the economy, and the grease doesn't deserve 20%. There are simple steps, like higher requirements for tangible equity as a % of assets for financial companies, that would help. Dont loan people money to buy an $1 million house with no money down who are making $100,000 a year. Also make sure over-the-counter derivatives are backed up by cash deposits. And the sector needs more competition. It's like health care in America, which costs 18% of GDP and produces poor outcomes compared to other countries. I vastly prefer free markets, but they weren't working in 2008 in finance and still aren't today in health care.

Around 2008 to 2011, I strongly agreed with you about the bailouts. My opinion has since changed. I believe they may have avoided a much worse downturn, and the government mostly got its money back.



*See how much better this sounds than Democrat Douches !

[MarquisdeSade1]

I am ashamed to admit that I had somehow missed this other Repub Donald J. Trump policy and stewardship decision, one of his first as so-called president after he conspired to commit Election Fraud and stole the 2016 election, that added an additional Mass Murder Victims of approximately 100,000 women and children to his already established count of 1 Million+ Americans and Millions more around the world with his Worst Economic and National Security decisions of all time in laying the groundwork for, embracing and exacerbating with his 1000's of lies the creation of Trump's Pandemic.

I apologize for that.

Melinda French Gates:
Why this election desperately matters.
June 20, 2024

https://www.cnn.com/2024/06/20/opini...s_iluminar_msn

Thanks, Joe, the candidate for President from the true Party of Family Values, Historic Economic Recovery, Stabilty and Expansion, Job Creation, Wage Growth, Lower Crime, Improved Infrastructure and Effective National Security.

Obviously.

Oh, and thank you, Joe, for continuing to be the most lucid, cognitively competent, sharpest, smartest, best informed, most prepared and fit for the office of President of the United States candidate.

Well, not just the best but, really, Joe is the only candidate with those characteristics and qualities:

https://www.breitbart.com/2024-elect...-on-joe-biden/

https://www.breitbart.com/the-media/...fClCqvtJHre6vg

https://www.breitbart.com/2024-elect...at-since-2004/

[EihTooms]

Oh, man, that was so close! For one New York minute there I thought the only way to prevent another Trump / Repub so-called presidency of Great Repub Economic Disaster, Massive Repub Jobs Destruction, policies and stewardship results that always lead to inflicting life-altering damage to the American Working Men and Women, creating Pandemics and any other "Once in 100 Years Disaster" they can glom onto while only enriching the already wealthy elite, corporations and, of course, THE BANKS, was to wish for a whatsisname assassination.

Fortunately, it turns out the more the American people and electorate feel and recognize Great President Joe Biden's historic economic and national security accomplishments for them, and the more they see and hear Joe Biden appearing on television and campaigning in person in the critical battleground states, including the only 3 that really matter in terms of those 270 Electoral Votes needed for The Win, the more they realize the America-hating numbskulls who tried to con them with their phony spin, tightly edited and cropped faked videos and recordings into believing the clearly brilliant Joe Biden is not able to string two words together, can't walk or talk, doesn't know who he is or where he is, etc, are just a bunch of desperate, hopeless, America-hating liars.

Consequently, even now, even without a fantasized assassination plot, beginning well before Trump was convicted of 34 Felonies for conspiring to commit Election Fraud to steal the 2016 Election, the sight and sound and intelligence and incomparable accomplishments and words and ideas and plans and deeds of Joe Biden has been enough to produce a favorable trend to him that today brings him to within a rounding error in just one state of being ahead in ALL of the Polling Averages that matter.

And, in the real world, that rounding error difference in just one critical state can so easily be overcome for Joe with his Party's effective Get-Out-The-Vote / Ground Game presence in those battleground states as well as the perfectly reasonable expected outcome of him utterly destroying Know Nothing, Do Nothing Repub Trump in any debate Trump can't run, er waddle, and hide from as well as the spectacular Clown Show of a Repub National Convention propelling Joe even closer to an easy well-deserved and well-earned 2nd term win in November.

At least, that is what the generally accepted No Toss-Up States Electoral College Map shows; that Joe Biden only needs to add WI, MI and PA to the rest of his No Toss-Up EC tally in order to win it.

And when we look at the far more credible 538 Polls Site, rather than the provable demonstrably Winger-leaning RealClearPolitics' Consensus of Polls (which also show Biden to within a statistical tie on every poll that matters, too. But they don't or won't update their Consensus / Averages that reflect the favorable trends and momentum toward Biden. And they insist on including Winger Polls like the ridiculous Rassmussen Poll, which 538 won't even include because it is so Winger-rigged), we see that:

Biden is already ahead in the National Poll Averages.

Biden is ahead in the WI poll Averages.

Biden is ahead in the MI poll Averages.

Biden is within a fraction of one percentage point of being ahead in the PA Poll Averages, with the momentum and trends at least since his terrific State of the Union Address in his favor and with those debates, conventions and 4 more months of sight and sound, appearance and words, accomplishments and plans campaigning ahead!

Yes, all things considered, Joe Biden would very likely win the election even if it were held next Tuesday instead of 4 more months of Tuesdays from now:

[Tiny 12]

From Black Church to Racist Antisemitic Rally...

Several key points, I forgot to mention, w/r to pathetic plea and attempt to court Black voters, in Detroit, given the following key points, makes those attempts even more pathetic.

First, the vast majority of people that packed the Black church in Detroit, were white. And probably all paid white locals to Trump cultists.

AND

Second, from the highly staged photo op, in the Black Church, Trump goes directly to a racist conservative rally, host by (racist and closet INCEL) Charlie Kirk, who loves spewing, hateful and racial tropes, about women, Jews and the very Black voters, Trump had just attempted to court. I hear after cutting his teeth on bigotry and a sexist war on women, the closet INCEL, graduated up the Repub "hate ladder", to full-on-racist and antisemite.

Again, Trump's racist "actions" and not his (bumbbling) words, tell Black voters what he REALLY THINKS of the black community. Again, is it any wonder why he only got 8% of the Black vote.

Great job numbers all around and more good news for Black voters, from Joe Biden the 14th Best President in U.S. History.
Yet another great jobs report and according to the article, extremely positive news for Black voters looking for yet another, reason to vote for Biden.

Especially, considering the whooper lies, fabrication and blubbering untruths given by Trump's recent awkward "billionaire white man" pleas and grovelling at a Black church (in Detroit), for the Black vote, in what can only be seen as a pathetic display of desperation, given the fact that, historical data shows, that 82% of Black voters, vote for Dems, Detroit is a Black voting stronghold and only 8% Black voters voted for him in 2020.

But good on Detroit, if they can get Trump to spend a large amount of campaign dollars in their city. I'd love to see it happen!

Here's CNN's numbers guy, Harry Enten, describing how "we're careening towards a historic performance (among black voters) for a Republican President the likes of which we haven't seen in six decades!"

https://www.foxnews.com/video/6355179602112

Meanwhile Trump is leading Biden among Hispanics in a number of polls:

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/02/u...oll-shows.html Trump 46%, Biden 40%.

https://www.txhpf.org/2024/04/16/tex...-respectively/ Trump 41%, Biden 37%.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...no-voters-poll Trump 39%, Biden 34%.

https://www.cnbc.com/2023/12/19/trum...c-survey-.html Trump up by 5-points with Latino voters.

Summers Says Trump Tax Ideas Mean Mother of All Stagflations

I happen to agree with Summers about tariffs. I'm not going to tell you why though because I'm pouting.

[EihTooms]

I am ashamed to admit that I had somehow missed this other Repub Donald J. Trump policy and stewardship decision, one of his first as so-called president after he conspired to commit Election Fraud and stole the 2016 election, that added an additional Mass Murder Victims of approximately 100,000 women and children to his already established count of 1 Million+ Americans and Millions more around the world with his Worst Economic and National Security decisions of all time in laying the groundwork for, embracing and exacerbating with his 1000's of lies the creation of Trump's Pandemic.

I apologize for that.

Melinda French Gates:
Why this election desperately matters.
June 20, 2024

https://www.cnn.com/2024/06/20/opini...s_iluminar_msn

As President Joe Biden faces former President Donald Trump in another contest for the White House, the stakes for women and families couldnt be higher.

I've never endorsed a presidential candidate before. My work on gender equality and global health often requires me to work with leaders on both sides of the aisle, so Ive avoided talking publicly about who I voted for in past elections.

But this year is different.

After Trumps first term in office endangered the health of women, compromising their safety and robbing them of essential freedoms, Im supporting Biden this election and asking others to do the same.

One of Trumps first actions as president was reinstating and expanding the global gag rule, which restricted foreign aid to organizations providing reproductive services and, by some estimations, caused more than 100,000 maternal and child deaths globally.

The former president imposed restrictions on the federal family planning program, Title X, that made it harder for people from low-income backgrounds to access contraceptives. His often divisive, sometimes violent rhetoric throughout his campaigns and administration from the sexist attacks he lobbed at women journalists to calling for his opponent to be jailed has contributed to a hostile political climate for women in office and allowed threats against election workers, most of whom are women, to proliferate.

And he deliberately appointed Supreme Court justices who would overturn Roe v. Wade, which resulted in a decision with far-reaching and catastrophic consequences for women and families.

In the two years since Roe was overturned, emergency rooms have turned away pregnant women in desperate need of care because doctors feared legal consequences. Obstetricians have fled states with strict bans, which could leave women without access to basic services like contraceptives.

The US already has one of the highest maternal mortality rates among advanced economies, and most OBGYNs agree that the decision to overturn Roe has led to more maternal deaths.

On the one hand, Trump has made it clear that, if reelected, he would do nothing to mitigate the damage his administration caused but instead go further by allowing states to monitor and prosecute pregnant women.

On the other hand, Biden has reinstated funding to health organizations for women around the world and fought for reproductive freedom in the US. His administration has supported the right to travel across state lines for reproductive services, preserved access to mifepristone a drug with a 20-year record of safety taken steps to protect fertility treatments such as IVF and worked to make contraceptives more accessible. Hes defended lifesaving emergency medical care for pregnant women and has helped educate doctors and patients about their legal rights.

Whats more, Biden has signaled his broader commitment to women and families by championing historic and sorely needed investments in this countrys care infrastructure.

The US remains the only high-income country without a paid family and medical leave policy, forcing many workers to choose between caring for their loved ones or bringing home a paycheck. As child care becomes crushingly expensive, accounting for up to 31% of a low-income familys earnings, it often makes more financial sense for one parent to leave their job to take care of the kids; in most cases, that parent is a woman.

Not only is the caregiving crisis keeping women out of the workforce, but its costing the US economy billions of dollars. Unless something changes, many women will remain locked out of highly influential industries, from tech and venture capital to media and politics.

Despite the severity of the caregiving crisis, elected officials have failed to place a comprehensive plan on the national agenda for decades. Not Biden.

During his 2020 campaign, Biden made caregiving a central plank of his platform, and in the White House, hes led efforts to make care more affordable for families and boost compensation and job quality for care workers. His push to strengthen the child tax credit, which resulted in many lower-income families with children receiving a check on a monthly basis, helped reduce child poverty by nearly half in just one year.

And he continues to fight for more affordable child care, home care for older Americans and people with disabilities and a long-overdue paid family and medical leave policy. Biden is, put simply, the strongest champion for caregivers the Oval Office has ever seen.

While Trump has boasted about rolling back the rights of women, Biden understands that the future of our country depends on them. Thats why Biden has earned my vote. I urge anyone who cares about women and families to join me.

Thanks, Joe, the candidate for President from the true Party of Family Values, Historic Economic Recovery, Stabilty and Expansion, Job Creation, Wage Growth, Lower Crime, Improved Infrastructure and Effective National Security.

Obviously.

Oh, and thank you, Joe, for continuing to be the most lucid, cognitively competent, sharpest, smartest, best informed, most prepared and fit for the office of President of the United States candidate.

Well, not just the best but, really, Joe is the only candidate with those characteristics and qualities:

[Elvis 2008]

Gentlemen, Trump deserves punishment for shenanigans he pulled after the 2020 election. I'd however favor an ankle bracelet while you'd prefer execution. He indeed never deserved to be president. He's a world class narcissist who took advantage of his customers, vendors, bankers, and investors. However, he got railroaded in New York. Prosecutors went after him for political reasons. Juries and judges convicted him and awarded large judgements against him because they didn't like him.

And Trump did himself no favors. His contempt and vitriol may have cost him hundreds of millions of dollars. He shot the finger at The Man (that is, the government), and you don't fuck with The Man. A lot of people who hear him say "I am your retribution" react very differently from you. They see someone standing up to unfair treatment by the government. That's part of why you see him improving marginally in the polls this year. Many thought Trump would be a goner after he was convicted of 34 felonies. They thought wrong. Trump was not treated fairly by courts of New York state and many people know that.

Despite the polls, Trump probably will lose. On one hand, a majority of Americans have more faith in Trump's economic policies, and Biden is a feeble opponent. On the other hand, Democrats are mad as hell because of abortion and because Trump tried to steal an election. The Democrats are more motivated to vote. I believe that will give them the edge.

Tiny, you have to look at Trump the movement versus Trump the man. As a man Trump is flawed as every man is. If you say Biden is virtuous and deserving, I would puke. After GWB and Obama, the people felt left behind. People saw HRC say one thing to the Goldman bankers and another to the people in the hood. In 2008, Obama had a much better handle on the Great Recession than McCain, but as soon as he got in power, none of the thieving bankers went to jail, and Obama was yucking it up with them a few months after being elected. He also sent his more progressive (it was not a dirty word in 2009) economists to the back of the bus and got a bunch of Washington and Wall Street insiders. If there was one exchange that epitomized this disconnect was billionaire Charlie Munger telling an average American to "suck it up" after the taxpayer backed bailouts to banksters like him came through.

Obama was going to win in 2012, and the Republicans could not have picked a worse candidate than Romney, another bankster creature. In 2016, Trump, a billionaire, was the anti-bankster. Finally, there was a guy with enough money to tell the truth, to offend the corporate thieves if need be. That is what people do not get. Oh, Trump is a thief. Really? Compared to the banks or MIC? Please!

The irony is the same thing was going on with Democrats. Bernie Sanders was the clean not corporate candidate. The problem is the primaries were not clean. If they were, Bernie is the Dem nominee in 2016 and 2020. Instead the Dems are chock full of superdelegates who the banksters have bought and paid for, and that means Biden in 2020 and HRC in 2016.

Unlike almost any other pol, Trump caught the populist, anti-bankster, anti-deep state wave and has ridden it better than anyone. It is not love for Trump but love for the movement that has been propelling Trump. Trump got caught up in the deep state bullshit that was Covid.

I know you disagree, but I think anyone who looks at the latest slew of emails and Fauci testimonies can see, we had an out of control NIH that funded creation of the Covid virus. I cannot think of anything that can piss us off more than elevating pandemic causing government dickhead, Anthony Fauci, at the expense of Trump. The vaccine worked great in the Spring of 2021, was partially effective that summer, and did not do shit by Fall of 2021. Instead of being honest about the vaccine, which would have hurt Big pharma pockets, this fucker Fauci pushed even MORE of the ineffective vaccine, and NIH scientists benefitted to the tune of billions. Just like with the great recession, those who caused the crisis were rewarded while the average American was screwed.

What got me is the divergence. No one supported the banks in 2008 but now due to censorship and spin, you have a large number of Democratic douches like Tooms who blame the pandemic on Trump and say "more government" would have been the solution. You even had this ridiculous government fan boy movement when Trump got elected.

People are not even voting for Trump. Lately, you are seeing the ultimate deep state douchery. The Dems / deep state are actually running a guy who cannot walk and talk. This entertainment writer is one of the most partisan hacks there is and here is what he wrote: https://lefsetz.com/wordpress/2024/0...-freeze-video/.

But we're told by believers to. Still believe. As if sheer will will change reality. This is no different from the religious right believing that prayer will solve all their problems. Can't anybody live in reality?

So let's say you're not sure who to vote for, the very few who will decide this election. You see this video and ask yourself. Is this guy up to the job? And if he dies in office do we want Kamala Harris?

Can't anybody live in reality, see what's right in front of their eyes? End of link.

Well, certainly over half of America does not believe the deep state bullshit. We see the attempt to keep Trump off the ballot in blue states, the civil trial against Trump in New York, the sheer idiocy of sending a SWAT team to the residence of a former president, and now this absolutely fucking asinine criminal case against Trump is a deep state admission that this demented, barely able to walk and talk shell of a man has no chance against Trump unless the deep state empties all its bag of tricks.

What I have learned from these Democratic douches is nothing is too much. Outside of an unexpected development, the only way Trump loses is if he is assassinated, and it is not just Tucker Carlson talking about it. You may prefer the term partisan Democrat to Democratic douches. Believe me, Democratic douches is not even strong enough.

These assholes have shown not one scintilla of remorse about all the anti-Democratic bullshit being sent Trump's way. They like to think it is about the man and not the movement which you just mistook as well. There is not a doubt in my body that with these assholes they would be cheering on Trump being killed by the deep state.

And these fucking stupid douches think that would be the end of it. The idea that killing Trump might mean they get killed is over their heads. They do not even get they are in the minority now. All the FBI is not on your side. All the CIA is not on your side. All the military is not on your side.

And you mean to tell me after the bullshit about the two impeachments, J6 and its lies, the censorship-social media complex, and this lawfare bullshit that 2020 was "the most fair" election in history? I have never seen the country on edge as it is now. Is there anybody who wants a demented Joe Biden or Kamala Harris as president? Come on!

[Spidy]

Gentlemen, ...

P.S. Spidy I am not gay or bisexual. And I don't fuck elephants. Their pussies are too big.

Hey Tiny 12, no need to apologize! After all, in your own words:

These are all hypotheticals.

Darn it! But won't fans of "Hypo World", (not to mention "Paycheck Superhero") be tad disappointed with this plot and character twist?

Well, Tiny 12, your self-realization, made me think of something you once told me (but not in a creepy kind of way):

Happy to support you on your voyage of self discovery!