Pattaya Reports

[Member #4838]

I recently was in Pattaya for 9 days.

Let me sum up my experience.

Tree town, myth night, Soi bukhaow:

Generally the average age amongs the bargirl seems to be at least 30+, maybe even 35+. Overweight is generally a problem. Some bars and areas have an average age of maybe even 40+.

Looks amongst the staff are mostly very low. No way men are going to travel from other continents to go to these places. I don't understand why anyone would do that.

There was one bar where I talked to a cute girl but in the barfine was 1000 baht short time and she wanted 2500. I asked her if she thought this is reasonable and if thaimen pay the same sum? She understood that I was right but didn't really want to talk about it.

When it comes to tree town I can't understand why these places even are operating. The profit must either be very little or almost non-existent.

Soi Pothole:

I mostly went to Amons bar and a good experience there. Girls there are ok with 1000 baht ST. And meet one I was very happy with, I had her two times. Oterwise quality is low on soi pothole and the average age is 30-35+.

LK Metro bars:

Generally low quality and many girls are overweight. But there are a some exceptions. Didn't spend to much time here and ask about prices. I belive it can be had at reasonable levels.

LK Metro gogos:

Most of this bars have older women, 30-35+. The kind of women that was hot and sexy 10 years ago. Some are overweight and others are slim. Queens have undergone a deterioration in quality from my last visit in 2022. The only gogo in LK Metro that I think was good is Lady Love which had a few cuties and other girls that were ok. Lady love is the clear winner.

Walking street gogos:

I was surpirsed when I walked into Pin-up. Compared to when I was there in 2022 there had been a significant fall in quality. XS hade some cuties but also many average looking women where the only good thing is that they are not too old and slim. Overall the quality on walking street is very average, nothing special. And absolutly nothing that make it worth paying 160 Euros for cuming one time. No. Its a western european price for an average "product". Is this supposed to make people pay for intercontinental flights and then pay 160 euros for a fuck? Maybe there are some that do it but I just don't see this as being a viable business modell anymore. XS hade many visitors. Visitors in Pin-up is down. All others had few visitors. Mamasan in Tantra complained to me that they have no customers.

The only exception is Palace agogo that had many visitors (all asian) and many cute and beautiful women.

Soi 6:

What I first noticed is three things:

1. Not many visitors compared to the number of bars and number of girls working in the bars.

2. Starting price seems to be some sort of reflexive value of 2000 baht (exlusive the barfine).

3. Many more koreans now that when I have been there before.

The thing with this talk about 2000 baht is that this can in some cases be negotiated down. I payed 1000 to one average looking, 1200 to another average looking and 1500 to a sexy and cute girl. Some go down in price but others stand firm at 2000. The ones that stand firm on 2000 seem to look at is as something completly natural. I ask one girl if thais themselves really pay that? She just smiled and avoided eye contact. I asked other girls if koreans ever negotiate the price, they told me that koreans never do that. I also saw examples of koreans walking around and then barfining the cutest girls long time. I also asked many girls how mnay drinks that have gotten during the evening. It seems to me that few girls get thier drink quatas of five or six drinks. So there seems to be a lack of customers.

Clearly the increasing number of koreans on soi 6 is having an impact on the prices. We are talking about prices increases of 80-100 % in a few years. That is just crazy, specially when you compare it to few numbers of visitors on that street and in Pattaya in generally.

And for anyone that don't understand inflation or price increases in Thailand, let me tell you that they are far from even 15%. I talked to a guide I had on a tour. She is thai and told me that price increases has maybe been 5 % to maximum of 7 % in Thailand. Other prices has not increased 80-100%. So any comment that is based on an erroneous understanding of inflation might as well be left out of the comment fields, thank you.

During this trip I went across the country and was not there just to visit Pattaya. I don't regret visiting Pattaya for the forth time and I did have a good time there but I can't say that I am looking forward to a next visit or is planning one. I think that when it comes to quality and prices Pattaya has deteriorated alot from where it used to be. Lets make it clear, to a significant extent Pattaya is a sort of prostitution trash can of Thailand. Not all of the women but after looking through Tree town or Myth night I can't really come to any other conclusion. When it comes to prices you will mostly have to negotiate if you want good prices.

Excellent report and spot on. Quality is down and prices are up. Having said that, I still like and enjoy Pattaya for all it has to offer in one central location.

[AlfonsoDavies]

Hallo,

I hope my question is ok because I don't say too much: Does someone know a woman named Alisa or Arisa with a playboy tattoo on her leg?

[AlfonsoDavies]

Hello,

One question please, I hope the question is ok because I will not say the whole real name:

Does someone no a woman named Alisa / Arisa and she have a playboy tattoo on her leg?

[HorseTrader]

Looks amongst the staff are mostly very low. No way men are going to travel from other continents to go to these places. I don't understand why anyone would do that.
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I asked other girls if koreans ever negotiate the price, they told me that koreans never do that.

Many of us don't travel for the average girls, we travel for the 1 or 2 per day that we like. When I find an attractive girl who is fun, I'll repeat. Sometime many expensive repeats. Meanwhile, the average and worse girls earn very little money.

I don't understand Korean culture. In years gone by I've had Korean girlfriends and have had many dinners at expensive restaurants with her Korean friends. In those situations, the Koreans will order excessively and then rush to be the one to pay the bill. Paying lots of money for visible stuff seems to build status amongst Koreans. I guess the same principle applies with hookers. These same people may struggle to make payments for their fancy homes and luxury cars, some lose their homes and cars. Very different culture from mine.

[Mr Enternational]

There was one bar where I talked to a cute girl but in the barfine was 1000 baht short time and she wanted 2500. I asked her if she thought this is reasonable and if thaimen pay the same sum? She understood that I was right but didn't really want to talk about it.

Of course not. If Thai men were paying that much money they could just stay where they came from. They all go to Pattaya because Pattaya have many stupid farang.

[Explorer8939]

There is no point in asking a bargirl what Thai men pay.

First off, they aren't allowed in most Farang bars.

Secondly, there is a shortage of available Thai men in Pattaya, so they are a valuable commodity. Bargirls with a Thai boyfriend often support them financially.

Lastly, there just aren't short time bars for Thai men to hook up with bargirls in Pattaya. There are bars where Thai men can go, but not for ST, at least they aren't common in Pattaya.

[KrumeLurer]

I recently was in Pattaya for 9 days.

Let me sum up my experience.

Tree town, myth night, Soi bukhaow:

Generally the average age amongs the bargirl seems to be at least 30+, maybe even 35+. Overweight is generally a problem. Some bars and areas have an average age of maybe even 40+.

Looks amongst the staff are mostly very low. No way men are going to travel from other continents to go to these places. I don't understand why anyone would do that.

There was one bar where I talked to a cute girl but in the barfine was 1000 baht short time and she wanted 2500. I asked her if she thought this is reasonable and if thaimen pay the same sum? She understood that I was right but didn't really want to talk about it.

When it comes to tree town I can't understand why these places even are operating. The profit must either be very little or almost non-existent.

Soi Pothole:

I mostly went to Amons bar and a good experience there. Girls there are ok with 1000 baht ST. And meet one I was very happy with, I had her two times. Oterwise quality is low on soi pothole and the average age is 30-35+.

LK Metro bars:

Generally low quality and many girls are overweight. But there are a some exceptions. Didn't spend to much time here and ask about prices. I belive it can be had at reasonable levels.

LK Metro gogos:

Most of this bars have older women, 30-35+. The kind of women that was hot and sexy 10 years ago. Some are overweight and others are slim. Queens have undergone a deterioration in quality from my last visit in 2022. The only gogo in LK Metro that I think was good is Lady Love which had a few cuties and other girls that were ok. Lady love is the clear winner.

Walking street gogos:

I was surpirsed when I walked into Pin-up. Compared to when I was there in 2022 there had been a significant fall in quality. XS hade some cuties but also many average looking women where the only good thing is that they are not too old and slim. Overall the quality on walking street is very average, nothing special. And absolutly nothing that make it worth paying 160 Euros for cuming one time. No. Its a western european price for an average "product". Is this supposed to make people pay for intercontinental flights and then pay 160 euros for a fuck? Maybe there are some that do it but I just don't see this as being a viable business modell anymore. XS hade many visitors. Visitors in Pin-up is down. All others had few visitors. Mamasan in Tantra complained to me that they have no customers.

The only exception is Palace agogo that had many visitors (all asian) and many cute and beautiful women.

Soi 6:

What I first noticed is three things:

1. Not many visitors compared to the number of bars and number of girls working in the bars.

2. Starting price seems to be some sort of reflexive value of 2000 baht (exlusive the barfine).

3. Many more koreans now that when I have been there before.

The thing with this talk about 2000 baht is that this can in some cases be negotiated down. I payed 1000 to one average looking, 1200 to another average looking and 1500 to a sexy and cute girl. Some go down in price but others stand firm at 2000. The ones that stand firm on 2000 seem to look at is as something completly natural. I ask one girl if thais themselves really pay that? She just smiled and avoided eye contact. I asked other girls if koreans ever negotiate the price, they told me that koreans never do that. I also saw examples of koreans walking around and then barfining the cutest girls long time. I also asked many girls how mnay drinks that have gotten during the evening. It seems to me that few girls get thier drink quatas of five or six drinks. So there seems to be a lack of customers.

Clearly the increasing number of koreans on soi 6 is having an impact on the prices. We are talking about prices increases of 80-100 % in a few years. That is just crazy, specially when you compare it to few numbers of visitors on that street and in Pattaya in generally.

And for anyone that don't understand inflation or price increases in Thailand, let me tell you that they are far from even 15%. I talked to a guide I had on a tour. She is thai and told me that price increases has maybe been 5 % to maximum of 7 % in Thailand. Other prices has not increased 80-100%. So any comment that is based on an erroneous understanding of inflation might as well be left out of the comment fields, thank you.

During this trip I went across the country and was not there just to visit Pattaya. I don't regret visiting Pattaya for the forth time and I did have a good time there but I can't say that I am looking forward to a next visit or is planning one. I think that when it comes to quality and prices Pattaya has deteriorated alot from where it used to be. Lets make it clear, to a significant extent Pattaya is a sort of prostitution trash can of Thailand. Not all of the women but after looking through Tree town or Myth night I can't really come to any other conclusion. When it comes to prices you will mostly have to negotiate if you want good prices.

[UglyAzzMan]

Hong Kong economy is Cratering now that's its Communist.

Short time in Pattaya is an option. LOL. Hahaha.

[LittleBigMan]

You do realize that 15% of Thai people are of Chinese decent? I seriously doubt that chick was from Hong Kong. If you had told her to speak some Chinese, she would have looked at you like a deer in headlights or started laughing and said joking.

Correct the chance is very slim that she was actually Chinese although as I noted there are more and more younger Chinese residing in Thailand and Pattaya.

A comunication mix up perception or she telling him what he might like to hear? Same kind of line? University student, office worker part time, simple check her story, speak what part of HK you live.

[NemanLion]

A HK girl would come in Pattaya and sell her pussy there for 1700 baht?

Normally it works the other way, Pattaya girl goes to HK and sells her pussy with a premium.

Well that's her sales pitch. Let it be LOL.

[NemanLion]

You do realize that 15% of Thai people are of Chinese decent? I seriously doubt that chick was from Hong Kong. If you had told her to speak some Chinese, she would have looked at you like a deer in headlights or started laughing and said joking.

Very true. I'm just basing it on the fact that her english was rather good and clean compared to the Thai chicks!

And where are those 15% of chinese thais to be found for my next visit!

[Mr Enternational]

I Found a very chinesy (if that's how its spelt) looking gal on Tinder I was swiping on and we matched. Rather short convo and she was free to meet. And even came rather quick because she has her own bike. Had brought her down from 2000 to 1700 but didn't mind paying alil more for last minute and her chinesey look. Was not disapppointed!! Apparently she from Hong Kong (I did believe because her english was almost perfect). But is in pattaya on a work thing! Just needs sex she claims (but at 2000!! Ya right). Long and short. The sex was great (might actually believe her given how into it she was) and got a little dose of chinese pussy. After all the chinese gals I been seeing in the hotel tempting me.

P.S. Whats a good city for punting in China?? I really want more chinese!

You do realize that 15% of Thai people are of Chinese decent? I seriously doubt that chick was from Hong Kong. If you had told her to speak some Chinese, she would have looked at you like a deer in headlights or started laughing and said joking.

[Paolo99]

Had brought her down from 2000 to 1700 but didn't mind paying alil more for last minute and her chinesey look. Was not disapppointed!! Apparently she from Hong Kong (I did believe because her english was almost perfect). But is in pattaya on a work thing! Just needs sex she claims (but at 2000!! Ya right).

A HK girl would come in Pattaya and sell her pussy there for 1700 baht?

Normally it works the other way, Pattaya girl goes to HK and sells her pussy with a premium.

[UglyAzzMan]

He spent 45-60 minutes with her doing what? Talking? Well why would you want to do that anyway? I'm there to fuck, not to chit chat.

Maybe lbm can chime in.

I think many of us go for Sex but since so many Uglies we just drink. LOL. Hahaha.

As for Zookeepa he is just Broke. Entertaining guy Though.

[LittleBigMan]

My friend, it has everything to do with skin color when some guy at the door won't let you in solely based on the way your skin is (or requires some payment in advance). That's the very definition of "colorism", and it happens all too often in Thailand where you aren't judged by the contents of your individual character, but by the color of your skin. It's all too common in Thailand.

Colorism! That is a good new word for me I use prejudice, racism, when I get a chance and talk to Thais as to how they are behaving even then they have a tough time accepting their behavior is that.

There is no doubt there are lots of rich Indians living here and it was even before the Thais relax the immigration rules. Like everything here the leaders don't give a rat ass what the people like it is all about the almighty baht.

Example is rich haven't heard much of him after Covid, but the guy that heads the Buka group the guy that lease the entire complex and rumor prior to turn it into another Nana plaza, maybe investing into all the Indian clubs from PinUp on down is what Indian money is doing.

People forget prior to Covid, the big rumor WS water side they were going to move everyone out at one time no clubs were being allow to be built. This is a hobby living here they held a meeting by City Leaders former last 2 mayor concerning the illegal built and purchase of much of the land. This meeting was one not to be missed by the owners legal or illegal, what showed up was the old school rich old men with battery of Thai Lawyers many to my surprise also were old time rich Indians many live down in Chinatown area with shops. There are three homes on the Darkside I believe by design are owned and lived in by Indians, these three are huge larger than any Thai home I've ever seen on the darkside, outside of the main house are maids quarters and grounds that can park 20 plus cars.

The Thais that most here will meet and associate like those at the doors sure they are doing their job as instructed but l see and experience it daily living here and you know what it isn't going to change because not one is going to shut down this racist factory it is being pass on as we speak. As noted prior to Thailand being completely open to Indians it had already started.

Here is a true example experience I was sitting with a number of Thais just drinking they were just low level government people once they found out I was Chinese they were joking mentioned something Chinese do which I guess it was pointed out to him by maybe his parents, or friends it is what I called " Hop Too " this is where a deep breath is taken and the person brings all a load of flame through their nose with one hands grabs that volume of glue and flings it on the floor or splits it out.

I've heard this jokingly a number of times living here but I've also seen a number of Thais do it in the past. Timing, a while later this old guy is pushing a cart down the Soi collecting bottles, he does the same thing while we all are sitting, eating, drinking saw the old guy I being me couldn't help myself blurr out " Hey look a Chinese guy collecting recycle " Everyone knew what I meant jokingly except the guy who mentioned the Chinese thing to me earlier " Loss of face " these are the guys who run the country and will always run the country his views and beliefs will be pass down for another 100 years, so get use to it.

For me, it is nothing but a game prior to Covid, I use to stand outside the walkway of Happy GoGo, then majority of the Freelancer would gather for entertainment I stand there and watch and listen to the conversation the ones who used to stop and gather were the type that gave all Indians the bad name ones that wore the tradition Indian clothing. I once observed and watch the group walk away the girl turn to her friend and said the price he offer was 200 baht, she responded for that price I might as well be a taxi driver?

Today you see more Indian dressed Western but personally if I was Indian you be better off dressing real Western depend on your age, go to Mikes get some knock off Polos, Nike, shirts, shorts, shoes cap, if they stop you, tell them you from Mexico LOL!

While Indians are trying hard to standout, the Chinese particularly HK, Mainland China Triads are pouring money into Thailand using their influence to buy the leaders of this country underground. I have never seen so many Mainland Chinese come to Thailand buying and living here many are so young makes one wonder why? Freedom? I run into them in volume, immigration, banks opening new bank account, many set up shell companies so they can buy homes many even send them to International schools on the Darkside of Pattaya. Bias, while Indians are trying to standout the Chinese are going deeper underground.