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  1. #15145

    Blackness in the United States of America

    Race has no place in politics!

    The first time I went to the a country on the African Continent the name of the country was South Africa still during the days of Apartheid. When I arrived the customs agent did not tell me I could only operate in the designated homelands. He said, welcome to South Africa you are our guest. So, I am out in the country and I go into the store to buy something and ask for it. The store clerk asks: Are you American?. They did not say, welcome back my brother.

    When I goto Colombia I present a my passport. My passport is issued by the United States of America. They say to me: enjoy your visit.

    When I goto the Dominican Republic I present my passport. My passport is issued by the United Staes of America. They say to me: enjoy your visit.

    When I return to the United States of America. I present my passport. I get sent to secondary. Not riding dirty so I clear. But I miss my flight. I finally make it to my destination. I collect my bags and exit the airport. First thing I hear is: n***** go home. Shit! I was born in dis mother fucker. Where am I suppose to go? Where am I? Pulaski, Tennessee.

    Racial division serves the economic interested of the Plutocracy of the United States of America. Not a means of economic control and suppression (although it does serve that purpose) but as a distraction from the gross inequities of wealth distribution in the United States of America.

    Quote Originally Posted by Elvis2008  [View Original Post]
    Fixed that for you.

    I used to think racist meant discriminating against people on the basis of being race. Now racism is prejudice against white.

    Obama is 50% white and is called black.

    Kamala is 75% white and is calling herself black.

    Elizabeth Warren is 100% white and called herself Native American.

    The fact that you Democrats keep lying about race shows you are the racist ones.

    And Spidy keep going about my being sexist. How is that even possible when you Democratic douches cannot even define what a woman is?

  2. #15144

    LOL-- DJT Beats KaMaLaaaa. In Georgia Rally Crowds. No Rappas in site

    President Trump drew Full Capacity crowd with thousands++ Outside-- Didn't Hire rappers, Kid Rock, Hulkster. Didn't give away foodstamps-- -- They just came to see The Man hours early like they always do.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcN9JcYwhNw

  3. #15143
    Quote Originally Posted by EihTooms  [View Original Post]
    Just for chuckles, I would love to read whatever nonsense has convinced you that either Joe Biden or Kamala Harris sent a SWAT Team into Mar-a-Lardo.

    Link?
    Biden or Harris? Who is the acting president now?

    And your point is just a distraction. If Biden knew about the raid, it is disgusting. If he did not know about it, it is disgusting. If I am president and the FBI does not notify me about a raid of a political opponent, whoever gave the okay is fired. Period. I would demand that the DOJ be kept objective. If I am president, I call Trump myself. I tell him that NARA needs the records. I tell him to have the documents ready within 7 days. If not, I will notify the media of the noncompliance and then and only then say he could receive a SWAT raid.

    Why was this done? First off, apparently the FBI had copies of all the records Trump had. So this was not about the government having records but Trump not having them. The other story was the FBI was worried Trump had records embarrassing to the FBI and the top secret thing was all a ruse. That makes sense as to why the FBI did what it did.

    As far as the Biden administration being out of the loop, that is a huge stretch to believe. And if they did not know, they should have.

    Here is what you want to dispute Tooms: https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2...ago-residence/.

    So get your fact checkers out and say this document proves nothing. What you do not get is no one on our side cares. We all think Biden was in on everything.

  4. #15142
    Quote Originally Posted by RamDavidson84  [View Original Post]
    Hey Tooms LOL, what's your thoughts on this male boxer in the Olympics knocking out his female opponent in under a minute? Just curious how you justify this from the Democrats who have made the Olympics a political weapon of influence and completely discriminate against anyone who doesn't support their agenda.

    A few years ago, they wanted to eliminate the oldest sport in the world from the Olympics which is wrestling and now they have men boxing women. And also banning Russia from the Olympics which contributed immensely to the conflict between east and west.

    Real discrimination.
    Can you (or any other Putin's cocksuckers on this forum) prove that Imane Khelif was born male? If you can, I'll immediately join your discontent, I promise.

    Please, take your time.

  5. #15141
    Quote Originally Posted by EihTooms  [View Original Post]
    Just for chuckles, I would love to read whatever nonsense has convinced you that either Joe Biden or Kamala Harris sent a SWAT Team into Mar-a-Lardo.

    Link?
    I think 2008 meant Seal Team 6, with help from the Precrime division of the Department of Justice, or was it the Justice League.

    It's a rabbit hole that is enlarged by MAGA to see who can dig the deepest.

    The former dude had boxes in his BATHROOM. Please don't defend that guy.

  6. #15140

    What I have read does not comport with your summary

    Quote Originally Posted by RamDavidson84  [View Original Post]
    Hey Tooms LOL, what's your thoughts on this male boxer in the Olympics knocking out his female opponent in under a minute? Just curious how you justify this from the Democrats who have made the Olympics a political weapon of influence and completely discriminate against anyone who doesn't support their agenda.

    A few years ago, they wanted to eliminate the oldest sport in the world from the Olympics which is wrestling and now they have men boxing women. And also banning Russia from the Olympics which contributed immensely to the conflict between east and west.

    Real discrimination.
    I know this is big news in MAGA World and maybe Trump wants to blame Kamala Harris and Taylor Swift for it. But the way you described it does not remotely comport with the known and published facts. Not yet anyway.

    These were typical of the results of a Google Search on it:

    Who is Imane Khelif? Algerian boxer facing gender outcry had modest success before Olympics.

    https://apnews.com/article/olympics-...09911884dcdaa9

    VILLEPINTE, France (AP) Algerian boxer Imane Khelif has landed in the middle of a divide about gender in sports after her Italian competitor, Angela Carini, pulled out seconds into their bout at the Paris Olympics.

    Outcry has come from conservatives like former U.S. President Donald Trump and Italian Premier Giorgia Meloni. Khelif was disqualified from the 2023 world championships after failing unspecified and untransparent eligibility tests for womens competition from the now-banned International Boxing Association.
    Khelif was assigned female at birth and it says so on her passport, which is the International Olympic Committees threshold for eligibility for boxing because of the rift between the sports governing body and the IOC.
    Olympic female boxers are being attacked. Let's just slow down and look at the facts.

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...s/74634233007/

    We know that on Wednesday, the IBA issued a statement saying that Khelif and Lin did not undergo a testosterone examination but failed a separate and recognized test, whereby the specifics remain confidential during the IBA Womens World Boxing Championships in India in March of 2023.
    .......
    A 2023 story in the Taiwan News at the time of Lins disqualification said no explanation was given other than an abnormality and that she had never failed a gender test in the past. Some contemporaneous news reports around Lins disqualification speculated about women boxers having to take certain medications to adjust their menstrual cycles to match the competition schedule.

    Heres something else we also know: The IBA has been in a long-running dispute with the IOC, and as a result, boxings future in the Olympics beyond the Paris Games is up in the air.

    Whats the dispute about? In a word: Russia.

    When Umar Kremlev became the IBA president in 2020, he made his mark by signing a significant sponsorship deal with Gazprom, Russias state energy supplier. It is understood that Gazprom essentially funded the IBAs entire operation.

    Early in 2022, Russia invaded Ukraine. As a result, the IOC wanted the IBA to drop Gazprom and make other reforms to its governance and financial structures and to clean up a bevy of ethical issues.
    ........
    So heres this long-running dispute between the IOC and a fully Russian-backed boxing organization, coming to a head at an Olympics where the Russians are truly personae non gratae.
    .........
    What else do we know? We know that Khelif and Lin have been competing in this sport for years, including the Olympics three years ago, and were not exactly dominating the competition. Khelif lost in the quarterfinals in Tokyo and Lin lost in the round of 16 of a different weight class. They were also being tested without any issue coming up, until this sudden 2023 test that nobody can really explain.

    Amy Broadhurst, an Irish world champion boxer who has been in the ring with Khelif and beaten her, posted on X that, "Personally I don't think she has done anything to 'cheat'. I thinks (sic) it's the way she was born & that's out of her control. The fact that she has been (beaten) by 9 females before says it all."
    Yes, you read that right. If anything, this might turn out to be just another instance where Putin has made his Puppet Trump dance for him as Russia's Most Useful Idiot. " Lolol.

  7. #15139

    Any poll lovers out there ready for an update?

    As it stands today, there are finally enough polls on Trump vs Harris Head-to-Head and the 3-5 Ways for polling services like 538 and even the old Nate Silver version of it to come to a Consensus on most issues.

    To start, virtually every No Toss-Up States Electoral College Map out there (such as the 270 To Win Consensus Map in the photo below) shows the same thing; if Harris takes WI, MI and PA, she wins 270 Electoral College Votes and the election. Although there are now a few other paths opening up for her to win and / or for her to comfortably win more than 270, but that appears to be the most consistent scenario for her to hit 270.

    That being the case, it is worth noting that, as seen in two of my previous posts, even the demonstrably Winger-leaning RealClearPolitics people have already shifted MI from Trump to Harris on their No Toss-Up States EV Map and are reluctantly admitting that PA (and GA) really ought to be taken away from Trump on a No Toss-Up status.

    However, it appears those nice folks over at RCP are even more reluctant to actually get around to doing the above and updating their Map accordingly. I suppose it is very hard for them to move their keyboard fingers in the same direction as their minds and mouths. When it comes to disappointing their beloved Trump, that is.

    Anyway, meanwhile, the 538 Polling site has finally updated a few key items thus:

    - Harris leads Trump in MI.

    - Harris leads Trump in PA.

    - They say it is too soon for them to come up with a Consensus on WI, but it sure looks to me like Harris is ahead of Trump there a tad as well.

    - Also, they say it is too soon to tell for the overall National level. But, there again, it sure looks to me like Harris has edged out Trump there too:

    https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/

    Now, on the old Nate Silver version of the 538 site (Silver Bulletin), his latest update with the best polls that matter (according to him) show Harris ahead of Trump Nationally and, by golly, of the 9 states he has designated Battleground States, there is Harris in the lead in WI, MI and PA (and VA):

    https://www.natesilver.net/p/nate-si...on-polls-model

    https://www.270towin.com/

    That's all for now, except for Trump keeps repeating that he is "ahead in the polls, by a LOT. " As of today, he is lying about that more than ever. By a LOT, as they say.
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  8. #15138
    Quote Originally Posted by EihTooms  [View Original Post]
    Hmm. Based on the Trump / MAGA pattern, of sorts, I think we can count on The Great Race / Ethnicity / Appearance / Religion Detective, Donald J. Trump, launching into a very loud and repeated public questioning of AOC's family, bloodline and heritage if any advance warning of write-in votes for her remotely threaten his election win.

    But for Liz Cheney? Not so much. Ok, not even a whisper of it for 10 seconds. But Cheney's sexual preference would definitely be up for large-scale MAGA and Winger Media scrutiny and investigation. After all, her first name is kinda' close to the word "Lez", isn't it?

    But Detective Trump and his MAGAs are not racists or bigots. As we all know.
    Hey Tooms LOL, what's your thoughts on this male boxer in the Olympics knocking out his female opponent in under a minute? Just curious how you justify this from the Democrats who have made the Olympics a political weapon of influence and completely discriminate against anyone who doesn't support their agenda.

    A few years ago, they wanted to eliminate the oldest sport in the world from the Olympics which is wrestling and now they have men boxing women. And also banning Russia from the Olympics which contributed immensely to the conflict between east and west.

    Real discrimination.

  9. #15137

    Response

    Quote Originally Posted by Elvis2008  [View Original Post]
    Why would you assume it was just one?
    Because, Elvis, this is what you said in your cry for help: "Come on man! This is the same obnoxious attack Xpartan has been waging against me for years, and you are censoring my response."

    I hope you'll agree that the word "response" is singular even if you're accusing me in waging "the attack" against you "for years". And I'm pretty sure that if you bring forward your response again, your post will come through, and I'm all for it.

    It might surprise you, but I hate censorship too. However, I'm still quite sure it ain't that, LOL.

  10. #15136

    Uh

    Quote Originally Posted by Elvis2008  [View Original Post]
    Are you really this clueless? How the fuck is sending a SWAT team into Mar-A-Lago uniting people?

    Trump said black jobs. That is horrible, but sending in a SWAT team to an ex-president's house is okay? Convicting an ex-president of a made up crime is cool? Oh, yeah, that really united the country.

    And nothing says uniting the country more than the elites picking out the Democratic candidate and tossing out the wishes of voters.

    Presidential actions by the vice president? Really? This is what you posted: Biden is president. I mean Harris. Honestly, I don't know.

    You do not even know is making the decisions, but it is all good because in your douche brain, Democratic decisions are always good.

    Clearly, you lack even a shred of objectivity, so why would anybody listen to anything you say?
    Just for chuckles, I would love to read whatever nonsense has convinced you that either Joe Biden or Kamala Harris sent a SWAT Team into Mar-a-Lardo.

    Link?

  11. #15135
    Quote Originally Posted by Spidy  [View Original Post]
    Perfect example of the sort of presidential ACTIONS, a great president (in Joe Biden) and Veep (in Kamala Harris), have always taken to unite Americans and the country.
    Are you really this clueless? How the fuck is sending a SWAT team into Mar-A-Lago uniting people?

    Trump said black jobs. That is horrible, but sending in a SWAT team to an ex-president's house is okay? Convicting an ex-president of a made up crime is cool? Oh, yeah, that really united the country.

    And nothing says uniting the country more than the elites picking out the Democratic candidate and tossing out the wishes of voters.

    Presidential actions by the vice president? Really? This is what you posted: Biden is president. I mean Harris. Honestly, I don't know.

    You do not even know is making the decisions, but it is all good because in your douche brain, Democratic decisions are always good.

    Clearly, you lack even a shred of objectivity, so why would anybody listen to anything you say?

  12. #15134

    My President was Black!

    A black job is being President of the United States of America. History has show white men been taking that job from black people in the country throughout history.

    ROTFLMAO!

    Quote Originally Posted by CheckMate1  [View Original Post]
    Unless you're Robert Downey Jr. , you don't just turn black (Tropic Thunder). That's not a thing.

    That doesn't bother me as much as this though.

    "A Black job is anybody that has a job. That's what it is. ".

    It is quite offensive to suggest that ANY one that has job is a "black" job. How I read into that is, "you people are lucky to have a job to begin with". Yet, it ignores that for generations, the black community has strived forward is so many ways, having justices on the Supreme Courts for decades, a president, congress men and women, surgeons, lawyers, CEO's, olympians, despite confronting constant obstacles throughout their journey.

    I am not Black, so I don't know you feel about statement like this. But as someone looking in, I can only see this as an insult and how one man is looking down upon a race of people.

  13. #15133

    Black Votes at the NABJ? Shut your mouth...

    Quote Originally Posted by Elvis 2008  [View Original Post]
    Look, the Harris bump is not surprising. She is not giving any interviews and she should not. She is not doing anything but reading off a teleprompter. She should not have rallies. She should continue to play the game where she is whatever you want her to be. She is not Trump and she is not Biden.

    But the real reason she should do that is the truth: she is a horrible human being, and she is so stupid. You are as blind to who she is as you were about Biden's health. All you care about is her party affiliation. ...
    Felon, convict and pussy-grabber Trump, has the QAnon/MAGA dolts and MSM, doing exactly what he wants. Which is talking about divisive, non-issue policies and topics that have no real appeal to what the majority of Americans want and really only appeal to his QAnon/MAGA cult base.

    But Americans have seen this movie before, and the BUMP and TREND in the polls for Harris, is largely due in part to the boring, wearisome, tired repetitive racist and sexist rhetoric, filled with empty campaign promises for Americans, other than tax-cuts for billionaires.

    As Trump tried to court the BLACK VOTE at the NABJ, this buffoonery and lack of campaign vision for America (or Black Americans), was all to evident, as the more he opened his mouth, the more racist he became.

    If anyone should keep their mouths shut, it's definitely the felon, convict and pussy-grabber, with the Nazi KKK supporter as a father.

    Not sure about "...happened to turn black", but what about "Once you go KKK, you can never go BLACK" (????...kkkk!)

    Quote Originally Posted by EihTooms  [View Original Post]
    ... The only one obsessed with race, Harris' or anyone else, is Trump. And in a BIG way! He can barely talk about anything else lately.

    LOL. Although I must say my favorite part of Trump's disastrous screed at the NABJ was when he totally destroyed his one central campaign argument against Biden's handling of border crossings when he blurted out, "We want people to come. But they have to be checked, they have to be vetted"!

    No kidding, Numbskull? That is exactly what Biden has been doing for 3 1/2 years. Only it now takes 6 months to check and vet them instead of 6 weeks because Numbskull Trump decimated the legal Immigration system before he got his ass kicked out of offices.

    Biden is trying to fix Trumps broken immigration system.
    2/29/2024


    https://thehill.com/opinion/immigrat...ration-system/
    The interview with NABJ, was just epic! Once again, his inability (or mental incapacity) to answer any meaningful questions, that Americans want their president to address, and turning it into some kind of personal attack on him, is again, just more Trumpism on display.

    If it wasn't obvious, Trump came to the NABJ interview, expecting the journalists to bow-down and acquiesce, like his right-wing FOXY Muse and Newsmax flunkies. When they wanted to talk about "real issues", he again made it about how poorly he's treated by "the media", and again evaded the questions.

    When he did get around to kinda answering questions, this is an example of the racist, crap that came outta his mouth:
    • NABJ (National Association of Black Journalists) Trump Interview:

      Black Journalist - "Why come here, what is your message today?"
      Trump - "My message is to stop, people from invading our country... a lot of the journalist in this room are black, I will tell you coming from the border are millions and millions of people that happen to taking "Black Jobs"...
      Black Journalist - "What is a Black Job, sir?
      Trump - "A Black Job is any body that has a job"

      {...the crowd laughs hysterically, as Trump attempts to backpedal from racist comments...}
    Is it any wonder why only about 8% of Black voters, traditionally show up to vote for Repubs? And just like the JD Vance's cringy women's rights and single cat-women rhetoric, Americas are turning away from divisive rhetoric and moving more towards not just inclusive speech, but inclusive and cooperative ACTION.

    Quote Originally Posted by EihTooms  [View Original Post]
    Masterful. Unprecedented. Historic.

    Well. Now we know what Harris and other Democrats in Biden's circle were "hiding" about his mental state, acuity, cognitive competence and total fitness to serve as one of the Greatest Presidents of the United States of America; ...

    Biden burnishes his legacy with historic prisoner swap.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cd1e1ygx7r1o

    Yeah. Thanks again, Joe.
    Perfect example of the sort of presidential ACTIONS, a great president (in Joe Biden) and Veep (in Kamala Harris), have always taken to unite Americans and the country.

  14. #15132

    A Black Job

    Quote Originally Posted by CheckMate1  [View Original Post]
    Unless you're Robert Downey Jr. , you don't just turn black (Tropic Thunder). That's not a thing.

    That doesn't bother me as much as this though.

    "A Black job is anybody that has a job. That's what it is. ".

    It is quite offensive to suggest that ANY one that has job is a "black" job. How I read into that is, "you people are lucky to have a job to begin with". Yet, it ignores that for generations, the black community has strived forward is so many ways, having justices on the Supreme Courts for decades, a president, congress men and women, surgeons, lawyers, CEO's, olympians, despite confronting constant obstacles throughout their journey.

    I am not Black, so I don't know you feel about statement like this. But as someone looking in, I can only see this as an insult and how one man is looking down upon a race of people.
    The Presidency of the United States! Donald Chump is one incredibly ignorant man.
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  15. #15131

    You might be putting AOC and Liz on the list of prime suspects by saying that!

    Quote Originally Posted by SubCmdr  [View Original Post]
    How about content of character?

    I've had a black President. Never thought I would see that in my lifetime. So, not the streak is broken there is going to be a black face hanging up on the wall under the Lincoln memorial how about we lay that issue to rest. Trump would not be a better person if he was black. It is about strength of character.

    If we need a female President I am going to write in AOC for President or Liz Cheney.
    Hmm. Based on the Trump / MAGA pattern, of sorts, I think we can count on The Great Race / Ethnicity / Appearance / Religion Detective, Donald J. Trump, launching into a very loud and repeated public questioning of AOC's family, bloodline and heritage if any advance warning of write-in votes for her remotely threaten his election win.

    But for Liz Cheney? Not so much. Ok, not even a whisper of it for 10 seconds. But Cheney's sexual preference would definitely be up for large-scale MAGA and Winger Media scrutiny and investigation. After all, her first name is kinda' close to the word "Lez", isn't it?

    But Detective Trump and his MAGAs are not racists or bigots. As we all know.

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