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08-15-24 06:27 #15256Senior Member

Posts: 7973A serious book recommendation for Elvis and Tiny
The world's non Repub MAGAs already know all about this and don't really need to read or listen to this book to know everything in it.
But it would no doubt come as a total shock for low information suc, er I mean, emotion-driven cult-followers, er I mean "conservatives" to realize what was done to them:
Ministry of Truth.
Democracy, Reality, and the Republicans' War on the Recent Past.
https://www.msnbc.com/ministryoftruth
Ministry of Truth: Democracy, Reality, and the Republicans War on the Recent Past.Republicans exposed for adopting Trump's gaslighting tactic to avoid harsh political realities.
Rachel Maddow talks with Steve Benen, MaddowBlog editor and author of "Ministry of Truth: Democracy, Reality, and the Republicans' War on the Recent Past," about how Republicans have grown increasingly comfortable simply denying inconvenient facts or constructing false histories to avoid having to deal with being associated with unpopular policies and events.
http://www.publishersweekly.com/9780063393677
The Republican Party is waging a frantic gaslighting campaign to rewrite the stories that have unfolded over the last several years, according to this illuminating account from Benen (The Impostors) a producer of The Rachel Maddow Show.
Pointing to polls showing that a majority of Republican voters believe that Trump made no effort to overturn the 2020 election, among other misbeliefs that absolve Donald Trump from wrongdoing and exaggerate his successes as president, Benen delves into how the Republican playbook of historical revisionism has evolved in recent years to make such lies possible to perpetuate.
While much of it comes down to Trumps habitual lying and self-aggrandizing being repeated as fact on right-leaning outlets like Fox News, Benen also spotlights Republican politicians who have entered Trumps alternate reality and begun generating their own pro-Trump spin, like Wisconsin Sen. Ron Johnson, who claimed the Jan. 6 insurrectionists were fake Trump protesters, and New York congresswoman Elise Stefanik, who asserted that the FBIs search for classified documents at Mar-a-Lago was part of a hoax. While Benen, true to form, spends slightly too much time on Russia-related events, his account is well sourced and covers a lot of ground.
This cogent survey of the Trumpist lie factory is worth checking out for more than just fans of Maddow. (Aug.)
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08-15-24 05:06 #15255Senior Member

Posts: 2741Elvis, Elvis!
Your "she may have started the war in Ukraine" lunacy notwithstanding, why on earth would you drop my name in your diatribe? I'm not in awe with Kamala Harris. I said in this very forum that I would've been happier with another candidate who's more their own person and not mostly known as a sidekick.
Originally Posted by Elvis2008
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That said, Kamala Harris is the only person currently standing between Donald Trump and America.
You know my take on Donald Trump. He is a calamity. I think if elected again, Donald Trump will attempt to end our democracy and way of life. This is my EDUCATED guess based on what he already did or tried to do between 2016 and 2020, the period that might be dubbed by future historians Orwellian or Putinesque, or probably both.
Since you do know how I feel about Donald Trump, what else am I supposed to do? For a sane person, there is no real choice between Kamala and Trump even if the former might be lacking somewhat as a presidential candidate.
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08-15-24 04:51 #15254Senior Member

Posts: 7973Lol
It is always great for a laugh to hear anyone express concern about a Dem Administration with ANY particular Party conttol in the House and Senate doing serious damage to the American economy after EVERY Repub Administration of the past 100 years has produced and presided over the worst economic downsturns and series of downturns regardless which Party controls the House and Senate but certainly the worst of the worst when Repubs also control the House and the Senate. LOL.
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Meanwhile, nothing, zero, nada of the kind has ever happened when Dem Administrations also have Dem control of the House and the Senate. In fact, nothing but damn great results have occurred under that perfectly benign condition while nothing but horrific results have occurred when Repubs are in total control of all three.
The great danger in blithely rooting for a Repub Majority in the House and / or Senate is then all it takes is one more blithering numbskull Electoral College quirk in one individual blithering numbskull Repub's favor to complete the Triumverate of Terror and Total Economic Disaster of a Repub in the White House with a Repub Majority House and Senate.
That is too great a risk for any patriotic American to take when the Dem alternative has shown throughout history to produce zero downside risk of even a notable mild and momentary economic downturn.
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08-15-24 04:31 #15253Senior Member

Posts: 2560Good post Elvis. She's wisely saying as little of substance as possible, even with the teleprompter. She's running a "Chance the Gardener" campaign, if you remember the movie "Being There." Indeed some of our fellow board members, the Kamala supporters, seem to suffer from Stockholm Syndrome. As an advocate of criminal justice reform, free markets, and a viable domestic oil and gas industry, I believe she sucks.
Originally Posted by Elvis 2008
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I don't like Trump and I won't vote for him. But the world's not going to come to an end if he's elected.
I don't believe it will either if Kamala is elected, PROVIDED Republicans control the Senate and / or House. From the fiscal perspective (deficits and the national debt), that might be a decent outcome. She could wreck havoc though if she decides to do something like handicap fossil fuels to the point where we're paying California-like prices for energy.
The worst case scenario is if it's a clean Democratic Party sweep. Then there will be hell to pay. And we won't have Kyrsten Sinema and Joe Manchin protecting the Democratic Party from its worst instincts.
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08-15-24 00:11 #15252Senior Member

Posts: 4832You got me!
You got me! https://www.fastcompany.com/91167281...ge-fosta-sesta.
Originally Posted by Tiny12
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Now we just have to see why with Tooms, Spidy, and Xpartan and all the other mongers think this does not matter. My bet is they think it is other men not them. Kamala knows how special they are.
It just cracks me up that these dummies think Kamala is on their side. Yeah, she was good for WB's sex life. Then as soon as she was Attorney General she said he was the first one she would lock up for anything. Then Biden chooses her as VP. After 3 years, she turns on him and was willing to hit him with the 25th amendment if he did not step down. And all those freedom loving pot smoking black men who voted for her saw her turn her back on them as well. And before all them, her father disowned her. I do not think it is possible for a woman to hate men more than Kamala does. Before you go into a relationship, you look for red flags, and the biggest red flag with a woman is one with daddy issues.
Of course, that does not mean that women are in the clear. https://www.zerohedge.com/political/...-script-kamala.
Call it Kamala's "Mean Girls" strategy: Turn the 2024 presidential campaign into an election for prom queen. ("Mean Girls" is Tina Fey's brilliant political allegory about a high school girl named Regina George who leverages her looks, gossip, and adolescent insecurities and cravings to rule over the student body until the uncool kids topple her to restore their freedom.).
Harris' strategy is to win by being cool, not by being competent. Democrats aren't even trying to prove that she has the brains, judgment, and gravitas to be the leader of the free world. Instead, they're embracing her skin-deep nature, highlighting her energy and appearance, and building her campaign on a foundation of social memes, social standing and social ridicule, too.
For example, when British pop star Charlie XCX said that "Kamala is brat" cool-girl slang for someone who's disorganized and says dumb things, but powers through it and gets what she wants anyway Kamala's campaign immediately embraced the meme.
Kamala wasn't cool in June before the Hollywood / media / cultural clique unified around their newly anointed leader. But her social standing soared when glamorous Hollywood stars showered her with money and love, and beautiful anchors and hip commentators on all mainstream media outlets gushed over her in unison while burying any talk of previous policies and statements.
Her first anti-Trump riposte is right out of the movie, too, as she and her parroting cool clique seek to make Trump and J. The. Vance as socially toxic as high school Mathletes. "They're weird!" the Queen and her acolytes say in unison (and everyone knows it's social suicide to like people who are weird)!
End of link. So she is a mean girl and her female staff would certainly vouch to that.
To be honest, she and her campaign are so fucking pathetic, I almost want her to win. There would be no Reagan without Carter. She has this amazing hooker like projection of making it sound like you are special and she is so on your side when she has no clue what your side even is. She will tell you whatever you want. I would expect that this kind of hooker talk from her, "OMG, I have never been with a man as big as you".
Originally Posted by Tiny12
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Thing is Kamala had this interview with Lester Holt. It was about as softball as you can get but even he is like see'Mon. Kamala, you have not been to the border.
And her response was, "You haven't been to the border?" "I haven't been to Europe" said Kamala. They are not related at all. ".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omrMRP15q9M
Again, it is what you would expect if you interviewed a high end provider about the border.
Well, she did do something else. She may have started the war in Ukraine by tweeting this before the war, When I was in Poland, I met with USA And Polish service members, thanking them for standing with our NATO allies for freedom, peace, and security. The United States stands firmly with the Ukrainian people and in defense of the NATO alliance.
That is enough of a reason for Xpartan to vote for her.
To quote Bill Murray, so she has that going for her which is nice.
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08-14-24 23:28 #15251Senior Member

Posts: 4832And Robert Rubin took it under Clinton. Big deal. That is my point. The only people wanting to go into government today are the ones who do get the big payouts.
Originally Posted by Spidy
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Well, here is another one who loved being in politics. Dolton Mayor Tiffany Aiesha Henyard, who has been dubbed "America's Worst Mayor", has disappeared after an investigation into the village's spending revealed more than $3. 5 million in debt, "out of control" credit card spending and $40,000 spend on Amazon purchases in one day.
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/do...on-hidden-debt
And then there is disgraced mayor Lori Lightfoot making $400 an hour investigating the worst mayor. Yeah, well, she knows a thing or two about corruption after being Chicago's mayor.
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/...en-worse-mayor
And then there was Fani Willis who was using tax dollars to pay off and screw her BF on the public dole. https://www.zerohedge.com/political/...evastates-fani.
Of course, Fani may have learned this trick from Kamala. For getting off Willie Brown, she landed jobs worth six figures at taxpayer expense. Yeah, Tooms, I got to say when you say Democrats create jobs, they are really good at creating these types of jobs.
And I wonder what exactly do these four pols have in common? Hmm. Yeah, they were all Democrats but maybe there is something else. Oh yeah, I forgot.
The one thing we can say those is all four of those Democratic pols get the Tooms seal of approval. You can do no wrong if you are a Democrat.
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08-14-24 21:17 #15250Senior Member

Posts: 1960Rebel Without a Pause...
W/R to Veep Harris, see recent post http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...=1#post2937212 and the USA Today article.
Originally Posted by Elvis 2008
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So once again (I ask for the 2nd time), remind me what exactly does Trump stands for, other than tax-cuts for the rich and "drill baby drill", as he and Musk, laugh and besmirch working class Americans?
Well that was a weak and muted response! Wasn't very "rebellious" and "rebel" like, now was it?
Originally Posted by Elvis 2008
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That response was very much indicative of the Trump/Vance campaign, that has gone from "hero to zero", in no time at all.
Where did that so called "censorship rebel" disappear to? The dude, who's fighting for the poor, weak and oppressed ISGers, suffering under your delusional so called, "brutal ISG Administration regime"?
You know the "censorship rebel", that has vowed to liberate and free the oppressed and enslaved ISG masses? Where's that guy??? (...kkkk!)
With the latest Trump/Roger Stone/RNC hack, by Iranians (according to the FBI) and sensitive campaign information has been leaked to the media/pubic, Repubs are now advocating that the contents of the hack should not be used as political ammunition, considering the source of the information comes from one of "our" staunch enemies. Remind you of anything?
Yes, much like the hypocrisy of Elvis 2008's so called ISG sensorship fake outrage and being censured, it was never something that he or Repubs every pay attention to, UNTIL of course, it happens to them.
Back in 2016, Trump and Repubs didn't hesitate to use the Russian backed leaked emails to WikiLeaks, taken from the hacked Clinton/DNC servers, by "our" (but apparently not one of Trump's) enemies, to enhance his campaign's chances of winning.
Today the Repubs, want the media and Dems, to give them the courtesy and goodwill, they NEVER give Hillary Clinton in 2016. Yet more hypocrisy from the Repubs.
Meanwhile, across the country, REAL censorship is taking place, primarily by Repubs in red states. Dictionaries and classic literary works, such as "The Catcher in the Rye", "The Grapes of Wrath", "To Kill a Mockingbird" and "The Bluest Eye", are being banned, to serve a backward Repub/QAnon/MAGA political, Project 2025 agenda.
So tell me again, Elvis 2008, is it all forms of censorship you despise or only when in applies you, like the recent Trump/RNC hack?
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08-14-24 19:39 #15249Senior Member

Posts: 2560Elvis is WRONG, WRONG, WRONG
Au contraire. She's largely responsible for FOSTA and SESTA and shutting down Back Page. She's done a lot for illegal Latin American immigrants, looking to come to the USA to start a new life. She vastly improved Willie Brown's sex life.
Originally Posted by Elvis2008
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How are you supposed to feel smart if there aren't people out there you think are stupider than you? That's important to build self esteem and achieve life satisfaction. And there's nothing wrong with seeing hookers. What are you doing on this board anyway? Finally any red blooded American male will lie his ass off to get pussy. Are you gay or something?
Originally Posted by Elvis2008
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Don't begrudge him Elvis. While not true, this is a good way for him to build his self esteem.
Originally Posted by Elvis2008
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What are you complaining about? You're not black. You lock up all the young black men like Kamala was doing and that means more ebony poontang for the rest of us! Thank you Kamala!
Originally Posted by Elvis2008
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Telling people like Willie Brown? What's so bad about that? If my lady tells me I have a large penis and fakes orgasms, that's just icing on the cake.
Originally Posted by Elvis2008
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Well by damn I hope she gets around to me soon. I can't wait to have that wench's tongue up my ass massaging my prostate.
Originally Posted by Elvis2008
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Well of course she thought of Trump. It's women's intuition. And the truth is a lot scarier than what she paints it to be. Trump not only is going to destroy democracy and lead us to nuclear Armageddon, but he's also the leader of a colony of vampire bats. They're turning our children into blood suckers and yes, spreading rabies and disease. Another reason not to vote for Trump!
Originally Posted by Elvis2008
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And what's wrong with that? Who doesn't want to sit at home all day, watch television and eat bon bons and be taken care of by the State? Thank you Joe Biden and Kamala Harris!
Originally Posted by Elvis2008
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Come on Elvis. Haven't you heard of tulip mania, the South Sea Bubble, Amway, and other classic money making schemes? There's still a lot laying on the table, ready to be scooped up. Warren's record cash holdings shouldn't be viewed as a bad omen by the way. That's the logical thing if you're in your 90's. Why hold on to a bunch of stocks when you can convert to cash and then use it to party, and bang lots of sugarbabies and high-dollar-hottie hookers?
Originally Posted by Elvis2008
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I could go on, but I'm getting tired of this. Wise up Elvis.
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08-14-24 19:16 #15248Senior Member

Posts: 1960Corporate Welfare is very much alive...
W/R to the miseducation of Elvis 2008, that is certainly a topic for conversation for another day. A day, I hope I never have to see!
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Your point is well made and I would add, that many of those titans, captains and lieutenants of industry, often also personally benefit immensely by moving into government jobs, even after very successful private industrial careers.
One of the most egregious and indelible examples of this, was Hank Paulson the chairman and CEO of Goldman Sachs, who IMHO, took the gov't job (Sec. of the Treasury under George W. Bush), simply to avoid paying taxes. Boat loads of taxes! The irony in 2008 was that, then George W. Bush, was "paying-off/out" his banker donors, with lucrative tax breaks, to the very people who caused the sub-prime crash of 2008.
In July 2006, Paulson, was able to dodge a tax hit of $200 million, in state and Federal capital gains taxes. By taking advantage of a (George H. W. Bush) 1989 one-time loophole, that gave candidates, in a handful of high level positions, the ability to liquidate his or her entire portfolio without paying a dime in capital gains taxes. Naturally, this was just another corporate welfare tax pretense, dress up to supposedly "attract talent" to gov't jobs.
Needless to say, despite any Repub, right-wing rhetoric or propaganda, about only one class of people receiving gov't welfare, is all bunk. Rest assured corporate welfare is alive, well and kicking (as shown in a previous post of mine, w/r to educating Elvis 2008).
IMHO, much like Trump, there are many men and women, that are less interested in servicing their country and more interested in benefiting and enriching themselves or their cronies (as you've made abundantly clear), off the backs of hard working Americans, they care nothing to very little about.
This casual like disdain, that billionaires and corporate welfare have for American workers, was clearly on display a couple days ago, during the glitchy, strange, rambling and cringy bromance "interview" between Trump & Musk.
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08-14-24 17:22 #15247Senior Member

Posts: 192Allan Lichtman 13 keys to winning the presidency
In 1991, Lichtman and coauthor Ken DeCell published The 13 Keys to the White House (Madison Books, 1991), a book laying out the 13-key forecasting system initially developed in 1981 by Lichtman and renowned mathematician Vladimir Keilis-Borok. They developed the keys based on their analysis of trends in presidential campaigns since 1860.
The 13 keys are simple to use: if 8 or more of the 13 keys are true for the incumbent party, its candidate will win the election—but if fewer than 8 are true, the challenger will win.
1. Party mandate: After the midterm elections, the incumbent party holds more seats in the US House of Representatives than after the previous midterm elections. FALSE.
2. Contest: There is no serious contest for the incumbent party nomination. TRUE.
3. Incumbency: The incumbent party candidate is the sitting president. FALSE.
4. Third party: There is no significant third party or independent campaign. TRUE.
5. Short term economy: The economy is not in recession during the election campaign. TRUE.
6. Long term economy: Real per capita economic growth during the term equals or exceeds mean growth during the previous two terms. TRUE.
7. Policy change: The incumbent administration effects major changes in national policy. TRUE.
8. Social unrest: There is no sustained social unrest during the term. TRUE.
9. Scandal: The incumbent administration is untainted by major scandal. TRUE.
10. Foreign / military failure: The incumbent administration suffers no major failure in foreign or military affairs. TRUE.
11. Foreign / military success: The incumbent administration achieves a major success in foreign or military affairs. FALSE.
12. Incumbent charisma: The incumbent party candidate is charismatic or a national hero. TRUE.
13. Challenger charisma: The challenging party candidate is not charismatic or a national hero. FALSE.
9 out of 13 by mine count.
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08-14-24 16:17 #15246Senior Member

Posts: 7973Trump's slurring, lies and incoherence will only get worse after this
Cook Political Report is one of the more highly respected polling services:
https://www.realclearpolling.com/latest-polls/election
Swing State Project: August 14, 2024 Toplines
August 14, 2024
https://www.cookpolitical.com/survey...g2024-toplines
Trump leads Harris only in Nevada in these polls, +3 in the Head-to-Head, +5 in the 5-Way. This was before the audio interview of him and Musk laughing about how much fun it is to fire the American Working Men and Women for daring to expect to be fairly paid and treated, especially union workers.The Swing State Project is a collaboration between The Cook Political Report and two pollsters, BSG and GS Strategy Group. Below are the toplines from the August 2024 poll. In total, 2,867 likely voters across seven swing states (Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, North Carolina, Nevada, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin) completed the survey.
In the seven states combined, Vice President Kamala Harris leads former President Donald Trump in a head-to-head matchup 48% to 47%.
Trump should have canceled that Republican National Convention, promised to name a VP candidate "in two weeks" and remained silent and hidden in that last basement Men's Room stall he usually hides in when frightened.
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08-14-24 11:01 #15245Senior Member

Posts: 7754My education for you Elvis is gratis
With all due respect you do not know a thing about how things work in the US Government The idea is for individuals to rotate out of private industry and into the highest levels of government developing contacts with political figures and career government workers in order to further the salary and bonuses they get from their private employers. That is the revolving door of industry insiders.
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Gary S. Gensler, is a former investment banker for Goldman Sachs. Can someone say get the fuck! He is Chairman of the SEC now.
You think the president of Goldman Sachs cannot call the Chairman of the SEC and have a private off the record conversation with him?
Nobody points shit like that out. But that is how it happens. So if Trump wins, watch how in fills government positions with those from the highest levels in private industry that are still on his good side.
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08-14-24 09:38 #15244Senior Member

Posts: 1960Excellent Resumes and Compelling Reasons for the Harris/Walz ticket...
Originally Posted by Elvis 2008
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Excellent Resumes for them both!
Originally Posted by EihTooms
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YES! What's not to like and love about the many, many, many accomplishments of the 14th Best President in US Presidential history. And the always supportive Veep Harris, doing her job as
the brilliant understudy.
I guess it good to have a boss who cares deeply for you and your career, and wants you to succeed. Verses one who brandishes you as a traitor, then tries to execute you, with an angry insurrectionist mob, brandishing a noose, flagpoles and sharp or blunt objects, to either have you hung, impaled or beaten to death.
Harris (in the article), has done some good work as VP, on things like immigration, voting rights, gun violence, maternal health care, abortion, broadband expansion, Juneteenth,
https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/p...s/74534954007/
The tone deaf people, like Elvis 2008, that weirdly think Dems don't have strong and compelling reasons to vote for the Harris/Walz ticket, perhaps can explain why so many Repubs and Independents are now voting for Harris, under those same compelling reasons?
Harris/Walz are giving some red states pause and reasons enough for them to now be considered as new battle ground states that could fall. We are hearing from both Repubs and Dems, on the ground in states like Ohio, Texas and North Carolina, that Trump may not carry the day, in these states. And that they think these states are at worst, are "in-play" for Dems and at best are very much "up for grabs" and winnable".
Yes, Thanks again President Biden and Veep Harris, for giving Repubs and Independents, 99 reasons, but being a Dem by virtue, just ain't one!
- PS: Got to give Nikki Haley credit, as she maybe right about one thing, when she said:
"Most Americans do not want a rematch between Biden and Trump. So the first party to retire its 80 year old candidate, is going to be the party that wins this election."
We'll see in ROEvember! But it's a good thing Repubs, don't actually listen to their women and pay them lip service! (...kkkk!)
- PS: Got to give Nikki Haley credit, as she maybe right about one thing, when she said:
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08-14-24 05:04 #15243Senior Member

Posts: 7973Why?
Why do Repubs, Donald Trump and Elon Musk hate the American Working Men and Women so much?
UAW hits Musk, Trump with federal labor charges over union-busting comments.
https://www.cnbc.com/2024/08/13/musk...ndroidappshare
Listening to the audio of slurring and lisping Trump and addle-brained Musk laughing about this you can actually hear the delight in these two "billionaire" con men criminals' voices in hating the American Working Men and Women.The United Auto Workers filed federal labor charges against Donald Trump and Elon Musk for their comments applauding the practice of firing employees who threaten to strike.
Under federal law, it is illegal to fire workers who threaten to strike.
Trump has been vying for the labor vote in the presidential race against Vice President Kamala Harris, though the UAW has already endorsed the vice president.
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08-14-24 04:21 #15242Senior Member

Posts: 7973LOL. That comparison sequence is hilarious. He knows his numbskull Repub base won't even notice or care.
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