Jakarta

[Volterra]

Agree. Guys seem to be overthinking Classic and all other bars in Jakarta. If you see a girl, approach her and ask her who her mamasan is. She will happily point out who her mama is. Doesn't matter where the girls are sitting. If she doesn't want you she will say she's busy. If she really was busy guaranteed she will remember your face and come back to you after she's done.

I also think that mamas aren't as bad for newbies as some guys have said, and that superstar Cha Cha has been overblown. (She seems to know that theres a buzz about her with foreign newbies.). On my first Classic visit, the mamas weren't nearly as aggressive as I expected. True, they were waiting like a wolfpack at the Terminal entrance and the past reports recommending that you walk immediately past them were good advice. They give up on you after 1. 5 seconds if you move fast enough and they even leave you alone for a good while if you don't look eager. Once they started approaching me, they were playfully pushy and would just move on if I didn't respond or directly but politely told them not right now.

In my brief experiences thus far, Cha Cha was the most aggressive, bringing new girls to my table every 5 minutes or so and even setting a couple down with me, but I just asked them to leave and they did. She tried to push them on me in pairs, some undesirables, which I usually declined. I only took her up on one of her 21 yo girls that I found to my taste but didn't agree to all my terms so left.

Other mamas also shifted between fine and annoying from moment to moment, so I find it hard to generalize for other new guys. I think you just need to go and get into it a few times, if you like it. My thing with Classic is that I just didn't find it that fun. The band is too loud but theres no good rocking going on because everyone just sits around. Then as others have said, its too dark to see what the girls really look like quickly. Yeah, you got to learn to weed them out, but it can be hit or miss like other parts of Asia, even when you think you got a gem, when you get down to the room you still see the baby damage, pear shape, sagging tits, or tooth misplacement that you swear wasn't there a minute before.

And the Terms & Conditions negotiation is much the same as anywhere I've been. Take a couple girls I went with for 3 some from mamasan Diamond (Inzan, not sure of spelling, but looks very masculine). Yuki is from countryside was 20 and F from Jakarta 22. F tried to tell me I would only get 60 minutes and 1 shot even though 2 girls BS, but when I told her that Mama confirmed 2 shots 90 minutes for the 500 k she changed her tune. Even then, once we got downstairs it was Nestles Quick and Instant Coffee. Yuki was somewhat lame attitude. She did get wet as I fingered her while F did BBBJ and BBFS cowgirl and she gave me decent BBBJ with aggressive ball sucking, but she wasn't much fun and rode a robotic cowgirl CFS. F wanted CFS but agreed to BBFS for an undefined tip (later gave her 150 k). Both had babies: F had baby damage but seriously fine ass to marvel at while pumping her from behind.

Neither allowed DATY in the end though both said it would be ok back at the table upstairs (wtf). This initially broke my heart LOL but Yuki was a bit smelly so no prob in the end. Their lack of interplay and mixed enthusiasm (F was fun and wild, but Yuki wasn't) stunted my growth so only did 1 shot and didn't want 2nd. I finished early by my choice, because the room was kind a rancid and they felt hurried. I gave 50 k tip to Yuki (she didn't deserve it) and 150 tip to F (well deserved). There was also an altercation in the room next door as I went back upstairs. A Chinese guy was having a major fight with mamasan. Thought it might escalate so I bolted.

I wouldn't repeat these 2, and sorry to say that I aint as mesmerized with Indo girls as a lot of guys are. IMHO, the real hotties are a small minority and fucking full of themselves. Classic and other downscale joints aren't really my thing either. Its just a bit chaotic without the crazy fun IMO, hit or miss with the girls, and then too rushed. I know most dudes don't care about the atmosphere, but I don't like fucking with mamasans clock ticking. However, I got to admit that the damage is very cheap, so nothing lost. Only cost me under USD100 over several hours for both Spa facility with food and drink and also Terminal threesome with 3 beers, bad nasi goreng dinner, water, 2 packs of cigs and tips.

Also, note that the basement Spa has suddenly upped its prices. New price list below. I protested like an SOB when they showed me but gave up after several tries and went upstairs, because wasn't impressed by spa girls.

[Average Geek]

Not much but I have posted in other areas so that others can benefit from it.

Will take a look again. A lot of the reports seemed quite old which is not a great sign I guess.

[Cgk19]

In my experience, each ATM (even from the same bank) can be different in terms of the maximum withdrawal limit and the denominations of bills it has. 50 K /100 K.

It's basically a crap shoot everywhere you go. Unless you have a regular rotation of known ATMs that you use.

Yes, very confusing. Not standardised.

I had shown with attachment file whereby BNI is 2. 0 jt for my WISE prepaid card. (20 pieces of notes).

You are right, in very generally the ATM dispensed 25 or 30 pieces of notes.

If you ask around, most people in Jakarta shall tell you 2. 5 jt or 1. 25 jt or they even do not know about this limit.

For them, they mostly only know BCA and will not do the maximum withdrawal at the ATM machine.

For amount of 2. 5 jt, mostly go to counter.

My experience of max ATM withdrawal is very bad. CRAPPP.

[Zippos]

Not much but I have posted in other areas so that others can benefit from it.

2. I haven't seen a lot of reports on Yogyakarta in the "Other Areas" thread. Any suggestions for places there or links to FR's?

[LoveItHere69]

It's basically a crap shoot everywhere you go. Unless you have a regular rotation of known ATMs that you use.

True. Plus, some guys are using credit versus debit cards at the ATM.

I tried an ATM app off Google Play. It was a joke. Only listed 3 different banks and only the ones at the bank locations from what I could tell. Not showing stand alone ATMs.

[NoGermaphobe]

Just read this elsewhere. I didn't know it. But it makes sense.

50 K note ATMs will be 1.25 mil or 1.5 mil maximum withdrawal. Basically either 25 or 30 banknotes.

100 K note ATMs should be either 2.5 mil or 3 mil max withdrawal. With 30 banknotes being the max.

[Zippos]

For the sake of naming the side, let's call it Exile side as it seems girls in exile or time out tantrums.

TBH I've had several gem pulled from that side including a couple Threesome. I've never enquired to why girls are from exile side reluctant to spread their legs open but will definitely find out this time.

Delbo, totally man. Those girls in the extreme corner don't care a fuck and are least bothered / interested in customers. Some of them seem to be good, all said, I have never seen them going down with customers and don't know which mamas look after them. Has anyone ever selected from this line up, I am actually curious to know.

[NoGermaphobe]

In my experience, each ATM (even from the same bank) can be different in terms of the maximum withdrawal limit and the denominations of bills it has. 50 K /100 K.

It's basically a crap shoot everywhere you go. Unless you have a regular rotation of known ATMs that you use.

Went there today. 1.5 juta in 50 k notes. Too small amount of money. Fee unknown.

Went there today. Took out max 3 juta 100 k notes 75 k / $5 fee.

[LoveItHere69]

Went there today. 1.5 juta in 50 k notes. Too small amount of money. Fee unknown..

Remember now. Fee 50 k. Not free.

[LoveItHere69]

Maybank also is 3 juta (100 k notes) without bank charge.

Went there today. 1.5 juta in 50 k notes. Too small amount of money. Fee unknown.

CIMB Niaga

CIMB Niaga often charges a fee similar to other major banks, around 30,000 to 50,000 IDR. However, some users have reported slightly lower fees at CIMB Niaga ATMs.

Went there today. Took out max 3 juta 100 k notes 75 k / $5 fee.

[Banana Boi]

now everyone will go to classic chasing a particular mama san <snip> While chasing another mongers experience you are missing your own amazing ones.

Agree. Guys seem to be overthinking Classic and all other bars in Jakarta. If you see a girl, approach her and ask her who her mamasan is. She will happily point out who her mama is. Doesn't matter where the girls are sitting. If she doesn't want you she will say she's busy. If she really was busy guaranteed she will remember your face and come back to you after she's done.

[Gabacho]

Screenshot attached.

Terima kasih. I didn't even think of selecting "family" for tourism visa.

Thanks again,

-Gabacho.

[WildInstincts]

Which visa option did you choose? I don't see an option for tourist / vacation visa??

Screenshot attached.

[SuperLove]

Delbo, totally man. Those girls in the extreme corner don't care a fuck and are least bothered / interested in customers. Some of them seem to be good, all said, I have never seen them going down with customers and don't know which mamas look after them. Has anyone ever selected from this line up, I am actually curious to know.

Cha cha is a pushy mamasan she sulks if you choose another girl from another mamasan. She deliberately crashes into you when walking past to let you know she's not happy. I just laugh it off to defuse it. But she always gets in your face if you're not picking one of her girls. I have to keep telling her to slow down I need to recharge my dick. Hahaha.

The girls on the sofa on the right hand side of the door before exiting downstairs they look stuck up they don't want to go with me a white guy 35 average looking. Full sofa everyone one of them knocked me back. Said to mamasan she didn't seem bothered just shrugged her shoulders. Not sure what that's all about. Other sofas seemed more willing.

[Expat American]

Now Cha Cha becomes famous here.

Not necessarily she has the best girls but she does have decent stock. Best girl is the one that you find and choose and how you mould her to be the best for that hour. Definitely Cha Cha is there for as long as the pillar stands and would pull some tricks on you but main goal is to not to let her dictate the game rather you tell her how it's going to be. Remember, you are the one with money. I once punished her by not taking any girls just because she was pushing me to take skeletons from her. Many guys will fancy that but I need some meat on my bones paired with big boobs.

If you want her to orship you, give her the change after paying for the girls, she might offer to give you a lap dance for that. All jokes aside, go early, grab a cold one and take your time. You can ask Cha Cha to follow you along if you want a particular girl. She won't hesitate to go on a witch fight with other Mami. Most importantly, have fun.

Some of you guys are being ridiculous. A while back everyone was chasing some particular girl and now everyone will go to classic chasing a particular mama san. Guys, there are dozens of bars, each bar has dozens of mama sans and each mama san may have dozens of girls. All of which change on a daily basis. Just go there and choose and enjoy. And one persons experience with a girl or mama or bar can be totally different than someone else. Its like sports. If every play and outcome is predictable what's the point in playing? The fun is in the discovery. While chasing another mongers experience you are missing your own amazing ones.