Pattaya Reports

[RamDavidson84]

Saw a decent scrap on Soi 6 last night. Place is a shit show. Looked like an American vs a Brit.

[Falcon 95]

Both these bars are from Nightwish. I thought all of the Nightwish bars are using the same prices for everything (room fee, price of drinks, price of LD and price of BF). That's the first time I hear some differences among some of their bars.

What you described for Flirt seems about right.

So either Mod's tried to scam you or they've got different policies. I cannot say, I've never been in this one.

The three bars at the Second Road side of Soi 6 (3 Angels, Omega, and Mod's) felt like Little Asia.

All the customers were chain-smoking Asians who mostly came in groups. They were buying racks of shots for the girls, while playing those stupid games.

If Mod's tried to scam me, it wouldn't be the first time someone tried to do that to me in Pattaya.

[Intrepid123]

How much is the barfine at Mod's Bar in Soi 6?

I asked them. They said 3,000 Baht early plus 10 lady drinks.

1,500 Baht barfine at 9 pm plus whatever remaining drinks from the quota of 10.

So if you went at 9 pm and the girl has had 4 drinks from someone else, then you will have to buy her 6 lady drinks plus 1,500 Baht barfine fee.

Does any of this sound right?

I went to Flirt. They said 1,500 Baht barfine at 10 pm (They open an hour later at 4 pm.) No need to buy drinks. But one or two drinks would be appreciated.

This smells like BS from someone in Mods bar. As far as I know in all the westerner owned bars in Soi 6 there is no such thing as drinks before BF.

When something like this happens ask to talk to a boss / supervisor, most of these bars on the right hand side have one.

[Explorer8939]

Any update abut Ban Chang situation? Thanks guys.

I was there last month. It was quiet, but there were some young spinners.

Ban Chang is the training area for ladies new to the biz.

[LittleBigMan]

To each his own, when I read reports here don't get me wrong I enjoy them greatly it is a lesson in how to properly write first and foremost. LOL at this point in my life where lots of stuff isn't a priority whenever I'm out and about I can take or leave it as it comes.

I've not a big fan of the nightwish group made it very cleared met a number of investors and his friends that are on his webpage.

Stretching their experience at places that use their page to advertise years prior to covid.

After Covid farang owners on WS took a page from his playbook drove Koreans in general who don't like to haggle with their new business plan drinks and high BF to less expensive locations like Soi 6, who now are driving the market to higher levels to many dis- satisfaction.

I was out and about Friday night with a friend from childhood of all places he flies thoudands of miles have money to burn hungry I ask what you want to eat he says Taco Bell! To each his own not bad I had 6 taco deluxe. Thereafter we hit WS, low or high season I don't pay attention any longer but lots of people we visit first XS. While walking pass Farenhelt ran nto a old showgirl from Bac, she was standing in front working her former place IIvy had closed space rented out by XS, name new club Chicks. Sad, they are human scrambling for any job she is waiting for new opening on Soi 15, New Shark LOL to open on 5th, inside XS, packed wall to wall mostly Asian Chinese from the Mandarin. As XS grows I see more farang investor quietly viewing the operation. For whatever reason I get a bit of respect a few old friends came up to say Hello, no drinks, order a draft, took a sip 20 minutes top out, unless you get a good seat tough to view girls great they have lots of girls but tough to view.

Off to Pinup, must be having a party decoration made the place look cheap, got a decent set door guy jump up said papa, tonight got.

Gun? Check my small man bag handed us off to another guy inside get Papa a good seat not baf crowded wall to wall, order a draft again I felt the lineup wasnt equal to XS, 15 minutes top out of there note when you order a draft waiters will come by and constantly check your bin to see when you arrived.

Off to Soi Potholes to see what old friends is doing next to Maggie M, always a decent time at well know Pothole Queen AMON bar surprising some not bad lookers.

GoGos in time I feel Owner / Investor will dominate basically kill.

Themselves will end up pricing themselve like the Russian clubs.

[Paolo99]

How much is the barfine at Mod's Bar in Soi 6?

I asked them. They said 3,000 Baht early plus 10 lady drinks.

1,500 Baht barfine at 9 pm plus whatever remaining drinks from the quota of 10.

So if you went at 9 pm and the girl has had 4 drinks from someone else, then you will have to buy her 6 lady drinks plus 1,500 Baht barfine fee.

Does any of this sound right?

I went to Flirt. They said 1,500 Baht barfine at 10 pm (They open an hour later at 4 pm.) No need to buy drinks. But one or two drinks would be appreciated.

Both these bars are from Nightwish. I thought all of the Nightwish bars are using the same prices for everything (room fee, price of drinks, price of LD and price of BF). That's the first time I hear some differences among some of their bars.

What you described for Flirt seems about right.

So either Mod's tried to scam you or they've got different policies. I cannot say, I've never been in this one.

[Paolo99]

I remember years back I was down on Soi 6, Pussy Cat bar just taken over by nightwish group talking and buying a drink for one pleasant girl at best a 5, I ask what is your price she said 1000, I said I always paid 700 I ask her why 1000 when it is 700, cause everyone else is getting 1000.

Great post, spot on as always LBM.

Nobody can change their mindset.

Now I go in Sexy in the City and pay a drink to a 5 because I pity her.

She says she works there for 5 days, but had zero customers.

I ask how much do you ask? She says 2 K.

I say you cannot ask 2 K, that's too much.

She says that's not too much because every other girl is asking 2 K, as if every girl from the bar has the same value.

At this point I try to explain her a bit, but she thinks I'm just trying to take advantage of her. So I let her figure it out by herself but I have no doubt it will take too long and she will eventually quit before realising it.

[Algumetu]

Why don't you then just go and report. ? Nothing much to lose if it doesn't suit you.

I will be in Pattaya just one week, not sure if it's worth spend one night there, that's why I was asking.

[Falcon 95]

How much is the barfine at Mod's Bar in Soi 6?

I asked them. They said 3,000 Baht early plus 10 lady drinks.

1,500 Baht barfine at 9 pm plus whatever remaining drinks from the quota of 10.

So if you went at 9 pm and the girl has had 4 drinks from someone else, then you will have to buy her 6 lady drinks plus 1,500 Baht barfine fee.

Does any of this sound right?

I went to Flirt. They said 1,500 Baht barfine at 10 pm (They open an hour later at 4 pm.) No need to buy drinks. But one or two drinks would be appreciated.

[BionicMan]

Any update abut Ban Chang situation? Thanks guys.

Why don't you then just go and report. ? Nothing much to lose if it doesn't suit you.

[Algumetu]

Hi guys,

I will be in Pattaya for one week soon.

Is it worth a visit one day to Ban Chang? Are the bars there gogo style or normal bars with pool etc. ? Quality of girls?

Thanks a lot!

Any update abut Ban Chang situation? Thanks guys.

[LittleBigMan]

Let me share with you that condo prices here in Pattaya are more expensive for Farangs than for Thai consumers. I looked a condo in View Talay 5. They told me that I could buy it for 2,400,000. 00 THB. I visited the condo with ATF and they told her that she could buy it for 1,700,000. 00. Should I get my panties in a knot over the difference? No that is just the way it is here in Pattaya. If I have a problem with it I simply should not buy it.

https://e.vnexpress.net/news/travel/...s-4716906.html

I don't think any of you are wrong. I just look at the link or article that was cited it doesn't directly talk about the topic Condo prices.

If you been here long enough some many have and still are somewhat in the dark. This article and thousand like it by what the government is doing or going to do is just that articles of words to put themselves in the light as if they are actually going to do something which in the end it equals Nothing but hot air expats like myself called it " smoke and mirrors ".

The government is just too fragmented self rewarding to be an actually enforce. They do a great job of standing together for picture and stuff but once done and I've heard it from officials in Pattaya, basically see you next year then they all do their own thing. So leaders in Bangkok, Pattaya, can get up on their soap box sing that tune cause they know enough will buy it as for Thais thinking they read or see the story on the tube " they on top of it they know " This is Thailand.

Years ago the former K, on his Birthday gets up and does a speech and this guy was respected. He noted about events from articles like this spoke about Duel pricing same as the last PM when he took over in a coup how it gives a black eye to the nation and people. Has anything really changed? Their Supreme court over two years ago ruled on an Expat lawsuit duel pricing in Hospital private and public the written decision was not on right or wrong nor their own law but Expats / Foreigners are better off therefore should pay more! This type of Thai thinking runs deep reason one hears in accidents it is always the foreigner fault I once sad in with a friend in Na Jomtien station after the Thai admitted she cause the accident, no license no nothing, hear the officer say to my friend you should pay up " you have it and you will feel better ".

Article after article year after year what goes around comes around yet they are still overcharging, Taxis not using meter, this has been in the news several times this year alone. There was a case recently where even a Thai was overcharged the guy wouldn't turn on the meter he / she filmed it yet we are still in coversation.

Pattaya, article after article each week about Arabs on Beach and 2nd Road racing, films about police citing rental bikes that take 90 of parking on Beach road yet one can't still find a space.

As for condo, here I've dealt with a number of offices no one is licensed or trained there isn't a real comparison in place or protection for buyers. Years back my free time I go around looking since I also have 30 years in the real estate market back home for my family. Prices here are over inflation in my opinion not by any demand so and so got this so I'm going for it too. I remember years back I was down on Soi 6, Pussy Cat bar just taken over by nightwish group talking and buying a drink for one pleasant girl at best a 5, I ask what is your price she said 1000, I said I always paid 700 I ask her why 1000 when it is 700, cause everyone else is getting 1000.

This nonsense filter to Condos, over ten years I purchased a tiny condo right off the beach in Jomtien, nothing fancy a small development which are the best, there were lots of units for rent and for sale I did my homework if not using an agency many know the price but it is like top secret stuff. I noticed I had a better chance buying from a Thai due to the need to sell and even for the fact 51% had to be owned by Thais, many expats seller had this appreciation factor in their pricing. I first noticed the sale from this building on the board at Big see extra, I noticed a number of cards by the same lady she ended up representing a number of Thais sellers I went to the building myself asking the office shopping for a place for my brother to rent for a few months once they figure out I wasn't Thai, I started to get different prices for and when I ask how much to buy, you get the head toes treatment sign of sizing you up how much should I throw out.

A rule of thumb, most if not all these projected are funded by a bank, off the ground the developer must come up with 20% committed buyers there after the bank will lend the other 80% Reason you see old signs 6% appreciation for 3 years. You get a entry level price if you are inside the 20% then as they sell out the price goes up 2%, another 2%, so if you do your homework, patiences, ask when the complex was built and when the seller purchased his unit, then try to figure out why he / she is selling and how long on market if they are hard up might go for a bit over what they paid. That is how I got my first condo. But no article a person see or read going to mean the problem is going to be fixed, I still waiting for the last PM who claim he will fix the traffic problem in a month.

[Explorer8939]

Visited Soi Chaiyapoon last night. It's hard to imagine, but there are quite a few new bars on the street. Lots of ladies. Some of the bars are more than 50% ladyboy.

But not many customers. I sat in a bar for an hour and saw three customers walk in.

Then I went to LK Metro and went to Paradise a Gogo. Talent was pretty thin. Some amazingly old ladies lurking about. I went with a civvie, and she found a couple of pearls among the swine.

Bottom line: right now is the best time to go to Pattaya, the ladies are fairly desperate for customers.

[Mr Enternational]

https://e.vnexpress.net/news/travel/...s-4716906.html

Maybe you would have a point if this was not Thailand, where the government is the main entity of dual-pricing and ripoffs. Foreigners are charged exorbitantly more than Thais at national parks and attractions. Taxi drivers, vendors, and condo sellers are not in charge of those prices. The government that just told you it is wrong to rip foreigners off is in the business of ripping foreigners off.

There was also a bill in progress that foreigners should be charged 300 baht when entering the country. I am in a facebook group about dual pricing in Thailand. Here is a picture of article from 4 years ago when the government said we must let expats pay the same price as citizens since they live here too. Since that article in 2020, it has been crickets on that matter.

[MarquisdeSade1]

Let me share with you that condo prices here in Pattaya are more expensive for Farangs than for Thai consumers. I looked a condo in View Talay 5. They told me that I could buy it for 2,400,000. 00 THB. I visited the condo with ATF and they told her that she could buy it for 1,700,000. 00. Should I get my panties in a knot over the difference? No that is just the way it is here in Pattaya. If I have a problem with it I simply should not buy it.

https://e.vnexpress.net/news/travel/...s-4716906.html