Pattaya Reports

[Mr Enternational]

How is the situation with the Russian girls at the strip joint? I was working my ass off to get one of the girls for ST 10 years ago... Is it still possible? And what is price now?

I think other people that have gone to those ripoff places report they want 10,000 baht.

[JPLove]

Just finished out 10 days in Thailand. Spent 5 days in Bangkok and 5 in Pattaya. Hoping this detailed report will be useful to others traveling out this way. I'm posting in both the Bangkok and Pattaya threads.

Just by way of quick background, I'm from NYC and frequent a lot of the agencies there that have young Japanese girls working, so that was sorta my reference point for this trip. Now that I've mongered abroad, I'm starting to realize how good we have it in NYC as far as quality and service goes, although it is expensive. My report on the 10 days spent in Thailand is as follows:

Bangkok:

La belle: Tried this place on my last day as I wanted to experience one of Bangkok's famous "entertainment complexes". The place is basically a hotel but for hookers and massage LOL. Big lobby when you walk in where customers can sit and drink. Girls are up on a stage and seated near the bar as well. Every girl had a different ranking / price with the lower end being about $3 k baht for 90 minutes while upper end was 6-8 k. Most of the pricier girls had a more East Asian look with pale skin, and a few that I talked to said they were in fact mixed Thai / Chinese. I ended up doing a double here for under 10 k baht. Fun times but I do think you will find younger, cuter and less seasoned girls working at the gogo bars. You will also be able to get extras at the gogos like BBFS and video if that's your thing. I doubt these upgrades are on the table at soapy massage joints. I will also note that they don't have air mats at La Belle, which sorta sucks. You will get a nice soapy massage in the tub but they can't really do nuru. Still, this place was an experience, had around 30 girls available when I went during the afternoon, and there was way less BS to deal with compared to gogo. Good prices too.

Dozo Massage: Went here on my first day and I was so exhausted from the 20 hour flight I almost fell asleep during the mat play LOL. Similar experience to La belle but fewer girls and smaller venue. Not very GFE but the Mat play and nuru were pretty good, think I spent about it 6-8 k for 60 minutes. Tried to come back here on my last night but they only had 3 girls available so I bailed. I would recommend the place. Girls were hot and the soapy massage plus mat play was pretty damn good. But I think you're better off going early in the day. Seemed kinda dead when I went at night. During my first visit I went in the afternoon and they gave me a lineup of maybe 6-7 girls.

Aya Massage: This place was good bang for buck. Did 60 minutes nuru with a fairly hot girl, probably late 20's early 30's. Price was quite low at just 5 k baht for nuru and VIP room. Not my most memorable experience and again, no air mat for nuru. But if you're looking for some low cost fun, it's a good option. They gave me a lineup of at least 20 girls. A few of their girls were hot and young, some less so. It's a mid tier spot.

Kings Castle 1: Best gogo bar I went to in PatPong. I never would have found this spot on my own. But I was fortunate enough to meet another American at one of the gogo bars who had spent 6 months living in Bangkok. He took me to patpong one night and we ended up at this place. They have hot young girls and I took home a gem. One of my favorite girls of the trip. Young, slim and cute with braces, no tattoos, perfect tits and a tight ass. Wanted her to stay for overnight but she had class in the AM haha. Paid 5 k for ST plus 2 k tip to creampie her.

Baccara: The only place on Soi Cowboy that I found was worth my time. My newfound expat buddy mentioned above introduced me to the place during my first or second night in Bangkok. They had some hot young girls working, but overall I found quality was much better in Nana Plaza. The main thing I liked about Baccara was it had a good vibe. All girls wore short skirts without panties and the bar right in front of the stage was a mirror hehe. Also, if you're on the first floor and look up, you can see through the stage on the second floor where more girls are dancing. Just tons of good upskirt action (seemed to be the theme at this place) and pretty fun putting these no panty girls on your lap after buying them a drink. Some girls will let you get a nice handful of bare ass and pussy LOL. The management was pretty chill too and wouldn't squeeze too hard on drinks.

Private 69: Smaller place on Nana plazas second floor but it had some hot young girls. I found a real gem here who I did long time with. Cost for long time was 8 k total including drinks. We vibed well and she was a hot young mixed Chinese / Thai girl, so I brought her along with me for part of the vacation. Banged her at least 5 times.

Rainbow 5: this was the bar where I met that other American and he told me that Rainbow 5 is the best spot in Nana. It just might be. ST barfine 5 k total and girls were young and hot. Long time was maybe around 8 k. Most of the clientele here was Asian and that's how you know the pussy is good. It's the same at the NYC agencies haha. I was one of the few white guys in that bar.

Billboard: I brought a pretty fun young girl home from here on the first night. Honestly forget what the barfine was, I want to say it was around 5 k for ST. Quality seemed pretty good overall. But when I went back later in the trip I didn't see many girls that caught my eye. Not enough college cuties here for my taste haha.

Shark / Afterskool: Located in soi cowboy, both places were duds for me. One of them (I forget which) really fucking annoyed me because they had cute young girls out front and on the stage but you couldn't barfine any of them. I bought drinks for 2 or 3 different girls before I was told you can't barfine any girls whose number started with a 5. Well, all the hot young girls had a number that started with 5 LOL. I told the two girls I was drinking with that the place was a waste of time, then paid my tab and walked the F out. Before I left they tried to show me one of the girls you could barfine and well. Not good LOL. Hard pass.

Pattaya:

Pinup: Probably the best bar on walking street in terms of quality of girls. Many cute young college girls. However they will milk the ever living shit out of you on drinks and the barfine is high. ST here was around 7 k all in and long time was slightly over 10 k. Compare that to Bangkok where the going rate is 4-5 k for short and 7. 5 for long. They also have some bullshit rule where if you want to barfine a girl, you need to buy an additional 5 drinks, so add another 1,000 baht. I recall I barfined a girl here and bought the 5 drinks for her so we could leave. She didn't even drink them. If you want to feel out a few different ladies, you will drop an easy 1. 5 k on drinks here. They also have different prices for different girls with some being assigned "model" designation and given a higher rate.

XS: Comparable quality to Pin up. I barfined some young hotties from here. Price slightly lower than Pin up and the vibe was a bit better too. Think I took home 2 or 3 girls from this bar. They had the same BS rule about buying 5 drinks before you barfined the girl. I told MMS to her face that "you guys really milk the tourist money here in Pattaya. " She got all pissy with me over that and told me to go back to Bangkok LOL. I did still buy the 5 drinks for the girl I wanted to barfine. She downed 5 tequilas then puked when I brought her back to my hotel. Thanks MMS. Stupid fucking rule. Just greedy BS. Anyways, moving on.

Opium: Pretty good but a rung below XS and pinup in terms of quality. I brought home one girl from this place and she was hot but attitude / service wasn't great. Mid to late 20's Chinese looking chick.

LK Metro area: I went here one night and it wasn't good. Girls weren't very hot and clearly older. Many bars had girls who were topeless or fully nude, which was nice. However, the hottest and youngest girls never go topless let alone fully nude. I bailed on LK after I walked the street and popped into a few different bars. Found the quality on walking street to be much better. Even the soi 6 cheapie girls looked better than most of the LK metro ladies. I'the heard that it was a hot spot, so maybe I just had bad timing.

Soi 6: I walked this street 2-3 times and checked out a few bars I can't rember the name of, but didn't fuck any girls here. Prices were very low compared to walking street. Girls would do ST for just 1,500 baht, others were asking for closer to 4 K. Quality was lower here IMO and girls were more high volume. It's also more of an incall experience since you just take them upstairs to fuck, rather than going back to your hotel. Not really my thing and I'the rather pay a bit more for the high end stuff. Still a fun experience just to walk the street and have the girls grab at you though.

General thoughts:

I liked Bangkok more than Pattaya. There's more to do there besides just mongering and the food is better. But also girls are just as hot IMO. Prices are much fairer, as Pattaya is upcharging hard for tourists on walking street. Not only are Bangkok prices better and girls just as good, but the bars are chiller and don't milk as hard in drinks. Pattaya also has some bullshit rule where if you want to pull a girl off the stage, you need to buy her 5 drinks. Otherwise you wait for her to finish dancing, which can take 15 minutes. This wasted a lot of time IMO and I didn't like having to sit around waiting. What I started doing in Pattaya just to move shit along was I would pick two girls at a time and buy both drinks. Then if neither were good, get another two when there was a new rotation. Feel out both girls and maybe one was good enough for barfine. Bangkok bars on the other hand let you pull the girl (or girls) you wanted right off stage with no wait time. This felt more organic IMO and meant less time was wasted. If I returned to Thailand one day, idk that I'd go to Pattaya again. Probably Bangkok and Phuket.

Prices were a bit higher than I expected. Don't get me wrong, it's still cheaper than the USA But it's not quite the cheap pussy paradise people make it out to be. Maybe it was 10 years ago, but no longer. I probably paid about 7 k baht all in on average to barfine chicks for ST. That's not much cheaper than NYC girls. Plus you've got hotel and airfare to pay. You can fuck Japanese college girls in Manhattan for about $240 for 30 minutes, so at a certain point coming to Thailand for mongering doesn't make a ton of sense when you factor in time, convenience and other expenses on top of 5-7 k baht ST barfine. The Japanese girls in NY are also just higher quality overall IMO. Obviously it's an experience to come here, but just food for thought. I'm glad I came when I did because in another 10 years it really may not make much sense anymore in terms of cost.

I liked the gogo bar system, but it's not perfect. I am on the younger side and in decent shape, so was able to barfine most of the girls I wanted. I did run into a few of the so called "coyotes" who are basically the very hot and very young girls (the type I was after) who just don't do barfine and instead will milk customers for drinks. My first few days in Bangkok I loved the gogo bars and thought they were fun as shit. But towards the end of the trip I started to grow tired of the mating ritual and my luck started to run out. I found most of the best bar girls early on in my trip. I also ran into some trouble towards the end because I had barfined many girls from the same bars, and the girls there clearly starting to know me and talk about me amongst each other. While I don't really give a shit if the girls talk, I felt this made it harder to barfine new girls at a certain point. The girls and the management have remarkably good memories at these places, and they are watching you closely. One girl I bought a drink for at Private 69 remembered seeing me in there a week prior, remembered which girl I had barfined and even remembered where I had sat. I had never met this girl until I bought her drink, but apparently she knew me. No issues like this at the soapy massage places, it was a more straightforward service there. I didn't play with any freelancers during my trip but I imagine it's more straightforward with those ladies as well.

I will also say I noticed that a lot of guys seemed to go to these gogo bars to just drink and hang out. My approach was very different. I was not going to gogo bars to hang out, I was going to barfine hot young girls. I would get bored after hanging out there for more than 40 minutes. Most of the girls don't really even dance on stage so it's not that entertaining. If I didn't see girls I wanted to fuck, I would leave immediately and go to another bar. I was like a man on a mission and was trying to move fast so I could potentially fuck two girls a night. This was harder in Pattaya since they forced you to sit around and wait for the girls to get off stage. I would also change girls real fast if I bought them drinks and didn't like their vibe or their look. I do think that my overall approach rubbed the girls and the staff the wrong way on a few occasions, and maybe gogos weren't a great fit for my style. Maybe they are just used to customers who like to waste time and spend money on overpriced drinks. I don't even drink alcohol BTW, which they occasionally teased me over. Again I really was just there for the pussy LOL.

Hotels:

Bangkok I stayed at S15 and The Landmark. I would recommend both. S15 a bit cheaper with good central location in between Nana and cowboy. Landmark was much fancier and right next to nana plaza.

Pattaya I stayed at Aya boutique hotel. It was good for bringing girls back since it's so close to walking street, but the hotel wasn't very nice. It looked better online IMO. Also did a night at the Arbour hotel which was much nicer, but sorta far from the action. Can't really recommend either.

All hotels were girl friendly.

Overall a fun trip and I would potentially go back one day. Enjoyed the pussy and the food was pretty good too. Cheers guys. Sorry for the long post!

[SubCmdr]

Been making appointments with girls from Thai Friendly for over a year now. Only had one not show up. Let me repeat that: I have only had one girl from Thai Friendly not show up!.

[James 006]

Soon on my way to Pattaya.

How is the situation with the Russian girls at the strip joint? I was working my ass off to get one of the girls for ST 10 years ago... Is it still possible? And what is price now?

Follow all the other Indians on Walking Street. Walk from South Pattaya Road. When you no longer see Koreans and Japanese and see 100's of Indians you know you found the right area.

[AntiMage]

I've read that some hang out in the Indian discos but never been in them so can't confirm.

As an Indian who's been to a couple of these Indian discos, can confirm!

Was there in mid August this year, and picked up one Uzbek girl for 3500 LT.

[SubCmdr]

Does not matter what a girl makes farming in Buriram Has absolutely nothing to do with the pussy market in Pattaya. She is not farming in Buriram when she comers to Pattaya and therefore the market for earnings changes. Those who understand markets do not make such asinine comparisons.

She is a prostituting herself in Pattaya. The market for prostitues is different than the one from farmers. Add to the fact that the location is different and anyone making that analogy has failed to compare apples to apples and oranges to origins. The proper comparison is how much money she would make if she prostituted herself in Buriram.

This is why wage slaves usually continue to be wage slaves. Because they do not understand capital markets, investment of capital, overhead expenses and salaries. They have never had to make a payroll. They have never live without the teat of the employer in their mouth every week, two weeks or month.

It makes absolutely zero sense to expect a farmer to come to Pattaya to prostitute herself for the same money she makes in Buriram. There is a difference between perception and perspective. Someone can provide a narrow perception of the situation that completely misses the true perspective in the bigger picture. I have shown beyond a reasonable doubt the perception that girl who is a Farmer in Buriram should be paid the same as Prostitute in Pattaya. This perspective is in error and I have provided the true perception.

Here is an example that should hit home: I was just at the food court right next to the Bus Bar. I paid 100 THB for French Fries. I could have paid 50 THB for the same French Fries in Jomtien where I stay on occasion. Same exact good. What justifies the price difference? Those who understand business immediately know. For those who do not I will leave it for them to figure out. A little homework to increase knowledge never hurt anyone.

[Mogwai]

Years ago I learned a rice farmer makes about US $1200 per year which today would be 40,000 baht. So in the chick from last night's case 30,000 baht per year is 2,500 baht per month. I was thinking shit, I just pulled 30,000 out of the ATM this afternoon.

The first time I came to Thailand, about 20 years ago, I barfined a girl from an agogo in Soi Cowboy. She said she was hungry so on the way to my hotel I bought some food and drinks for the both of us from a food cart, somewhere along Sukhumvit Road. I had to pay something like 60 or 70 baht IIRC.
When she heard that her jaw dropped, and she looked astonished. She told me that in her hometown, somewhere far north in Isan, she would have to pay only 6 or 7 baht for the same food and drinks.

[HorseTrader]

You see first hand why trying to arrange chicks before you are boots on the ground is a waste of time. Arrangements made 1 day ahead of time do not even work.

Even 5 hours advanced booking of a hooker is too much. Suppose it's noon and you schedule for 5 pm, she will inevitably have another customer call and want 4 pm so she will try to reschedule you or maybe just ghost you. I now set these up just 1 or 2 hours before I want her to walk through the door.

About the only prep you can do is add the appealing girls to your TF favorites list.

[Mr Enternational]

Another 2 appointments with Thayfriendly made the day before that failed. In addition they don't even warn that they won't come. I don't care if they don't come but at least they should warn ! I had to make another appointment at the last minute.

I keep telling you guys that fucking with these chicks is like herding cats. And some guys want to make plans with them to go on boats and shit. Only when they are right in front of your face and you plan to go at that very moment.

You see first hand why trying to arrange chicks before you are boots on the ground is a waste of time. Arrangements made 1 day ahead of time do not even work.

[Pimpampoumpipo]

According to my notes taken on site from day 9 to day 12 Google Translate french to english (with a little correction anyway)

Day 9:

Girl of the day (30 years old): met at a Gogo bar. Beautiful plant a little thin for my standard tastes but well built all the same. I buy her a LD every time I go there, that is to say every day. Came to see me on her day off in my room around 2:30 pm Brown pussy. She had a child, honestly you wouldn't believe it. Good fuck in 30 minutes, that's more than enough. After 20 minutes of fucking everyone gets bored. 2000 be already agreed from the gogo. Nice and participative. Lives in Pattaya with her kid, she juggles between her schedule (end at 4 am) and the start and end times of school. All alone to take care of him, her mother died so no one to help her. I've already met a girl like that. This is the life of those who have no one in the village to help educate their children. Honestly, hats off to them, they are deserving and courageous. Shouldn't think that the life of bar girls is easy in general. Took me on a scooter to Tree Town.

Day 10:

Girl of the day (23 years old): Thaifriendly. All started with a stand me up, the little girl from LK Metro who told me she would come at 2 pm didn't come. I had anticipated a bit and I started looking on TF for a new plan and made 1 or 2 contacts. At 2 pm I asked one of them to come to my room right away. She told me she needed 1 hour, I said it was too much, finally I told her ok, then it rained she told me "I can't come it's raining", the rain stopped after 15 minutes she arrived at 3:15 pm, I was really hot. Cute, nice ass, nice heavy and natural breasts, very slightly destroyed belly (cesarean) but really good. Cunnilingus, 69 with fingers everywhere, missionary and finish in her very nice ass. 1100 + 100 tip. In addition to being practical, having a nice range, you can find good cheap deals on Thaifriendly. You just have to try not to make too many mistakes when choosing on the site. I'm working on my reading grid of the ads.

Day 11:

Girl of the day (30 years old): Thaifriendly. Not too complicated to go out with Thaifriendly, there are people. The whole difficulty for me is to find the right balance between making an appointment well in advance to prepare (them and me) but not too early either because otherwise there are cancellations, the little Thai girls generally having difficulty planning beyond 2 hours. Pretty 30 year old girl, keeps physically fit by doing sports and it shows, really well built, supple and firm body. I ate her pussy, she couldn't take it anymore. Then 69 (so pussy devoured again), missionary and happy ending in doggy style. 1000 + 200 tips. I think that for the quality it's really a good price. Offered me to come in fine lingerie next time.

Day 12:

Girl of the day (24 years old): Thaifriendly. Another 2 appointments with Thayfriendly made the day before that failed. In addition they don't even warn that they won't come. I don't care if they don't come but at least they should warn ! I had to make another appointment at the last minute. Fortunately I was able to with Thaifriendly. Thaifriendly is my new friend, I love it, it's normal love is always like that at the beginning. That's also how I will use him from now on, for an appointment within 2 hours maximum. No need to waste time planning even just 24 hours in advance. It's not easy for me because I'm someone who likes to plan ahead. I'm learning how to use it, I'm still in the running-in period but it's a nice little machine anyway. Pretty girl contacted at 1:15 pm, at 2 pm She was at my place. Quite tall (170 cms) at least for me, curves but not big, exactly how I like it. Very pretty face. She had 2 of tension but I liked her little cries when I ate her pussy. Classic: 69, missionary, nice hips and ass seen from doggy style. 1000 + 200 tip.

[Mr Enternational]

Once again my yearly rant on perspective. Thailand is not back home. Chick from last night is a farmer from Buriram as 99% of the other chicks in Pattaya are farmers from the same region. She grows rice and sugar cane. She came to Pattaya a couple of days ago because the crop is ruined from flooding. I asked her how much she makes each year from farming. She said depends if it is a good year or bad year. I told her tell me about a good year. She said for the year she is able to grow and sell 200 tons of sugar cane and is able to earn 30,000 baht for it after expenses. I said what about the rice? She said they keep the rice to eat.

Years ago I learned a rice farmer makes about US $1200 per year which today would be 40,000 baht. So in the chick from last night's case 30,000 baht per year is 2,500 baht per month. I was thinking shit, I just pulled 30,000 out of the ATM this afternoon.

The numbers speak for themselves. Bars in Pattaya charging a barfine of what these chicks would make all month back home. It must blow some of these chicks' minds when they hear people are giving away money like this. No wonder they come running out of Esarn to Farang Holiday Land. This is exactly why I am able to get chicks Long Time for 1200 baht. When chicks are not jaded, they know 1200 baht for 1 night is actually a lot of fucking money in Thailand when they could be home getting only double that for the entire month.

Once again I like to mention a girl I met on Walking Street years ago who said if someone was to give her 10,000 baht per month, she could go home and not have to do this shit. When I dropped the girl off this afternoon at her room in Jomtien, I asked her how much she was paying for the room and she said 3,000 baht per month.

[Mr Enternational]

Wow, that's one hell of a salary increase Mr. E, from 1000 baht to 1200 USD. You are a good employer. Have any vacancies?

LOL. I did not do that. That was ISG's world famous auto-correct. Yesterday I wrote "hoes" and when the report posted it came out as girls.

"Damn man, leave us some form of relief to get these girls".

And remember sometimes it even posts some people's reports under other people's names.

[Mogwai]

Used to give her 1000 baht per night as all, before I moved the salary up to $1200 baht / night.

Wow, that's one hell of a salary increase Mr. E, from 1000 baht to 1200 USD. You are a good employer. Have any vacancies?

[Mr Enternational]

Follow all the other Indians on Walking Street. Walk from South Pattaya Road. When you no longer see Koreans and Japanese and see 100's of Indians you know you found the right area.

Or go Soi 16 from Second Road. There is one on the left corner at Walking Street and another being built on the right corner. Turn left or right and there are several within 100 meters in either direction.

[Banana Boi]

I too heard from my friend that many Uzbek, Russian and eastern europian chicks are available in pattaya but I don't know the place where we can meet these chicks.

Any information on this will be helpful.

Follow all the other Indians on Walking Street. Walk from South Pattaya Road. When you no longer see Koreans and Japanese and see 100's of Indians you know you found the right area.