Bangkok Reports

[Bugged]

Just returned from a short trip to Bangkok, and have a little feedback. (Sorry I'm struggling with formatting as I copied / pasted from another application and it sucked the formatting out).

General observations:

1. Get LINE the girls will have LINE and if you want to get in touch with them another day you can ask to add them on LINE and they will happily do so. A plus is that they usually have a picture on their profile so you get a pic of them.

A. Most girls quickly asked me to add on LINE so they could keep in touch about their schedule for the week.

2. Get the Rabbit pass for the BTS sky train. You can't spend all day in agogo and beer bars (I could not at least) and the sky train is cheap and easy to use to get around. It's 100 BHT to purchase the pass, plus whatever credit you add to it. You'll need to show your passport to get it.

3. I don't recommend a bar crawl. I was having a nice afternoon with a hottie, and she and other girls were laughing at guys who were obviously on a crawl. 'Don't think this is the first bar he had beer at' and 'he's headed to another bar to get another beer that he doesn't need' it was obvious and you will get targeted as an easy mark to buy everyone drinks.

A. LEO over other beers. Singha is not as good, though some say it's the same (it's not).

4. It's pretty safe the Tuk Tuks were the worst for likely scams (Nobody is going to give you a full city tour for 50 BHT, sorry) and you'll end up with a bar tab that's larger than you expected because you bought drinks for more than one girl. Nobody tried to pick my pocket or take my phone. The Tuk Tuk guys got a laugh when I went by because I was polite but didn't even stop to let them give their sell.

5. Hotel with girl: I brought one girl back to my room. The guy in the lobby looked askance and I said she was my guest that night. He asked if I was OK with her, and I said yes and he was happy. My hotel didn't ask her to register, probably because I wasn't bringing a girl back every day, and because I said she was ok.

6. Hotel will take care of you: If you need something (ride, tour whatever) the hotel will assist. (any good one anyway) I needed to arrange an airport taxi and they just took my info and made the arrangements. No meter involved with this as they set a price that the taxi respected, and was actually less than what I paid with the meter on the way from the airport.

7. Exchange. There was an exchange next to BTS Nana stop and associated with the bank right there. The ATM are safe (Bank ATM) and the exchange rate was really good! You'll need ID to do an exchange there.

General observation on girls and drinks: They will, on an apparent schedule, go 'cheers' and after clicking their glass against yours the girl will suck down 1/3 of the drink. After 3 of those you'll be buying another drink if you like her. Since the drinks aren't that pricey I didn't mind.

Beer bars: Best beer bars for girls that I could find were on Soi 4 near Nana Plaza entrance. There was also one on Soi 7/1. Got to be careful in these, as the girl you pick to spend time with is going to push for you to buy drinks for her friends and it adds up fast. Not much return on it with the girl I liked, but that could be because I didn't push for anything really. If you are with a girl and her 'friend' or 'aunt' attaches to the two of you RUN. You won't get any quality time with the girl as the 'friend / aunt' will be up in your face and your tab will go up very fast.

Sports bars without hostesses: Worth it. There is one on Sukhumvit (Near Nana BTS) called, of all things, 'Sports Bar'. It's a generally quiet place but worth a late night visit. I was there after midnight and there were a couple freelancers in there just chilling out, invited me to join them and just had good conversation for a while. They didn't push, but offered services if I wanted. The girls were just chill and liked to have a late night conversation, plus they were smoldering hot.

Soi Cowboy: Lots of good agogo bars here. Lots of fun. For short money you can get a hottie to sit with you and play with your cock, and of course barfine her for more. There were some cool girls I really enjoyed talking to, and the best weren't pushing for anything but an occasional drink (and they would drink slower than most girls, not going 'cheers' on the same schedule and not drinking a full 1/3 of their drink each time.) The busiest place was Crazy House, and it wasn't worth it. There were some very hot girls, but it was jammed and it was hard to find a place to sit especially with a girl. It was so tight I had a girl drinking with someone right next to me and occasionally grabbing my dick because it was right there and she was almost sitting on my lap to hang out with him. (Not sure who you were dude but that girl knew what she was about with her left hand).

Nana: Nana needs more than one paragraph.

I had read that Nana wasn't really worth it, and if you went don't go anywhere but Billboard. That's, in my opinion, not how it currently is.

Billboard: Don't bother. Yes there are plenty of girls, and many of them are very good looking. If you are into the girls with lots of surgical enhancements then ok go here. It's so packed, on a rainy Wednesday night, that there wasn't a place to sit and guys were standing looking for a place to plant themselves. It's just hectic and not worth it even if you find a girl you like you'll not get any quality time in that place.

Random (bar name): Second floor on left side. Think they had a sign out letting you know there are no ladyboys in there. If it wasn't there it was the place next door. They have a tub set into the stage! There will be about 5 girls in bikinis wiggling it on stage, and 3 of them will be quite hot. 1-2 girls at a time in the tub. In the Tub there isn't like inches of water or anything, there are little shower heads the girls pick up and wet themselves before lathering up, then use to rinse when they are done. The girls in the tub will get fully nude and wiggle around covered in bubbles for 2-3 songs (or was it 3-4?) before rinsing and leaving. These seemed to be the hotter girls. There are, no lie, some of the hottest girls I saw in Thailand working in here. My favorite had no makeup (didn't need it) and an all natural amazing body, weighing in at about 80 lbs if that. Stunning girl really and I will keep in contact with her to hook up again next time I'm there. This place can be a lot of fun and it wasn't too pushy on barfine or drinks for anyone but the girl you were with.

Lollipop: This place is fun, if you can just go with the flow. I grabbed a little hottie outside and pulled her inside to sit with her, and we just laughed at the stuff going on. Papa is like flamboyantly gay and will sometimes get up on stage for a laugh. He kissed me on the neck when I went in the toilet, just to fuck with me. Not my thing but it was funny. Girl I sat with was stunning and not at all pushy, and there were plenty of other hot girls in there. (She also weighed in at less than 80 lbs, and her hands were tiny as can be) There was one ladyboy in there who wasn't even trying to look like a girl, was just funny as shit. (No, the penis didn't come out).

/ Nana.

General on Agogo bars: Find a girl you like and sit with her, let her know you're not interested in buying other girls drinks. She (she should) let other girls know to not try you. I found a good method was to find one super hottie on the outside, and approach her directly and let her know I liked her look. I wouldn't go in the bar without her by my side, and she would happily join me for drinks and fun. This way, you don't have to tell 50+ girls 'no thank you' until you find the one you like. I didn't always use that method but it worked when I did. Case in point was Lollipop; I didn't think I was going to go in there but a stunning small girl came outside and smiled at me and I was done for. Totally worth it.

Barfine observation: There seems to be a signal between the girls and the Mama. After 1-2 drinks with some girls the Mama would come up and start talking to me about paying her barfine and taking her for the night. The Mama wasn't doing this with every guy in there I think the girls would let her know (somehow) they were good with a guy and so she would approach. Just a guess.

Legit massage places: There are like 50 within stone's throw of any spot on Sukhumvit, probably anywhere in the city. At night there will be a couple hotties outside encouraging you to come in for a massage, but it's bait and switch. The hot girls do NOT do massage, and are a little insulted if you ask them to. If you want a hot girl to give you a legit massage you are SOL I think at most of these.

Massage with fun: Yes there are plenty but I can only speak on one. Hunny Bunny. Totally worth it. Nuru massage for 90 minutes, don't go less as there are multiple aspects to the experience and it will be rushed if you get only 60. (I will book 2 hours minimum next time) I went in and had a pic from their website for a girl I wanted to see. She wasn't there but they called her and set me up with a booking for later that afternoon. Totally worth it. She was hotter in person than her (very hot) pictures and was a lot of fun. She did actually give a decent massage and the other fun was great. I went back a couple days later and there were only two girls available (most there were waiting on booked massages) but I took a shot and was glad I did. The girl was nice looking when she popped out downstairs, but was about stunning once in the room and undressed. She was great at everything that went down, and had the longest tongue I've seen on a little girl like that. She also let herself enjoy it (first girl did too).

Hotel: I spent a little more then the minimum and I'm glad I did. The breakfast spread was awesome (thai stir fry for breakfast?) and they gave me a free day (1 of every 5 was free) which brought the price down to barely more than the cheaper place with a much nicer room than I would have had.

Hope that's helpful. Also: Thanks for the encouragement to not worry about the rainy season and just go to Bangkok. It was totally worth it.

[TKOman]

Now accepting nominations for the Prostitution Virtuoso (PrV) Awards in the following categories:

A. Best Venue to Find a Looker (I. E. 9 or 10/10).

B. Massage shop most likely to provide HJ Unsolicited (I. E. Without her first asking "You want spayshial massage?

C. Venue most likely to Hear the Guy in the Next Room Getting off.

D. Punters' Raunchiest requests of depravity (fulfilled and unfulfilled requests are accepted).

E. Best InCall Service (I. E. Looks, accuracy of advertisement, timely arrival, service, etc.)

Nominations may be made in all or just some of the categories!

[Captain Solo]

EverythingThai,

Thanks for the intels on this venue. I am curious how locals have fun and sex.

300 girls at 10 PM? Damn. How are T-Ded 99 talents compared to Thermae or Poseidon Massage in Hway Khuang?

I will be doing a tour with a couple Asia noobs. Would be fun to visit T-Ded 99 to sit with the girls and experience unique local flavors.

[EverythingThai]

SOLD! Non smoking club. I'll be a regular. Anyone know of other non smoking bars in Bangkok and Pattaya with decent girls?

Agree. Yes guys Thai bars don't work like your Farang bars. You need to entertain these girls or they will walk. Have had it happen to me at Kiss on 3rd Road in the past and I feel I'm pretty good at entertaining girls even if I don't speak their language well (I'm about the same maturity level). It's like going to DJ bars in HCM where maybe 1% of the girls can speak a bit of English.



Understood. I also tip my girls, some REALLY REALLY well if I had lots of fun with them that night. I like to be treated well when I walk into a bar. Reputation in a gogo bar is everything. You're going to be ignored if girls talk about you as a Cheap Charlie and treated like a King if they know you buy lots of lady drinks in gogo bars. Since T-Ded is not a lady drink place I would simply let the girl know I will pay her well for her time (in addition to the 200 baht per hour charge). Is 1000 baht per hour per girl fair? To others they will say I'm overpaying but if I'm happy that's peanuts.

1000 baht per hour as a tip is more than fair LOL. You will fit in here quite nicely.in my opinion, don’t do it unless the girl agrees to go with you to the hotel though. This means don’t do it with every girl you meet right off the bat.

[Axel Heyst]

Understood. I also tip my girls, some REALLY REALLY well if I had lots of fun with them that night. I like to be treated well when I walk into a bar. Reputation in a gogo bar is everything. You're going to be ignored if girls talk about you as a Cheap Charlie and treated like a King if they know you buy lots of lady drinks in gogo bars. Since T-Ded is not a lady drink place I would simply let the girl know I will pay her well for her time (in addition to the 200 baht per hour charge). Is 1000 baht per hour per girl fair? To others they will say I'm overpaying but if I'm happy that's peanuts.

The only issue I have with what you are saying is that T-Ded is a Thai bar and therefore I think it is incumbent on us visitors to spend (tip) and behave in a like manner as the locals and NOT stand out and call undue attention to ourselves. The girls will love us for tipping large, but I think we farangs will wear out our welcome fast if we act this way. Less is more.

[Banana Boi]

Only place you can smoke is in the vip rooms too.

SOLD! Non smoking club. I'll be a regular. Anyone know of other non smoking bars in Bangkok and Pattaya with decent girls?

if you don't speak any Thai <snip> you better be able to make it fun for the girl in other ways or she will ditch you

Agree. Yes guys Thai bars don't work like your Farang bars. You need to entertain these girls or they will walk. Have had it happen to me at Kiss on 3rd Road in the past and I feel I'm pretty good at entertaining girls even if I don't speak their language well (I'm about the same maturity level). It's like going to DJ bars in HCM where maybe 1% of the girls can speak a bit of English.

The place is open until 5 am so they don't mind if you don't take them, as someone else will. However, they may make an excuse after the first hour or 2 that they have to leave and then won't come back. That tip would be fine.

when I go here, everyone takes care of me. If I have any problems they are always solved in my favor.

Understood. I also tip my girls, some REALLY REALLY well if I had lots of fun with them that night. I like to be treated well when I walk into a bar. Reputation in a gogo bar is everything. You're going to be ignored if girls talk about you as a Cheap Charlie and treated like a King if they know you buy lots of lady drinks in gogo bars. Since T-Ded is not a lady drink place I would simply let the girl know I will pay her well for her time (in addition to the 200 baht per hour charge). Is 1000 baht per hour per girl fair? To others they will say I'm overpaying but if I'm happy that's peanuts.

[Nyezhov]

I don't agree with much of what you post, but this has never been more true. I will even take this one step further. If a girl asks 2500 baht ST and you like her, regardless of location, Bangkok or Pattaya, why would you walk away from that if you only want to pay 1500 Baht? It's just a complete waste of time and energy for me to debate over 1000 Baht. If I like her I pay. If I just want to stick my dick in any hole, then ya maybe I would agree, but come on.

About Bangkok as a mongering destination, it's quite different than Pattaya. Bangkok is a normal city. The mongering areas are all spread out. The dating apps have tons of normal girls, so don't offer money for sex unless you are sure they are working girls. Otherwise a couple of screenshots later and you could find yourself in the police station in a heap of trouble. The girls in Bangkok just seem to be better all around. They dress better and take better care of themselves.

Pattaya on the other hand has this shit everywhere on every road, every corner and 90% of the girls in the Pattaya location in dating apps are working girls.

In the end, your strategy needs to change in Bangkok..

This should be mandatory reading for newcomers.

[EverythingThai]

No need to explain what you pay for me it is self explanatory. Being Asian we will fit right in.

As for BTS we might be running around my group might be close to ten is it a far walk from the BTS.

I not a clue outside of Nana area where where? We will be staying in that area one night from Pattaya. This is just one of the options that.

I want to include some of group want to hit massages places, Therma, GoGo, with this agenda and time being older a few will call it quits early this is a late night place so the brave will survive.

In regards to price I wanted to know so I can brief my cousins they have real bad habits like paying over 10,000 in many cases.

Thanks. I hope we can fit it in.

You guys are better off jumping in a taxi. The area is very near chatujack if that helps. Grab two or three taxis as the BTS will shut down maybe before you head there. If your group is still big enough, you might want to consider a VIP room. I don't know the cost because I'm always alone so I never need the space. I imagine if you have 5-10 guys, you can easily split the cost for the room. Only place you can smoke is in the vip rooms too.

If you are Asian, you will fit in more. That's for sure.

[LittleBigMan]

Don't walk from the BTS, grab a motorcycle taxi for 20 baht.

About the tips, 5600, most to the girl and the rest to the momasons for taking care of me. One man and one lady, and a small tip to the servers.

Look at it like this. 4400 is the only number you guys need to worry about as that is what I spent on by bin. Tipping to the girl and the momasons and other staff is optional and this is why my level of treatment in the club and in the bedroom may not be the same as another punter might experience, whether they are Thai or a foreigner. I think this goes the same in every type of club you go and with any working girl you spend time with.

No need to explain what you pay for me it is self explanatory. Being Asian we will fit right in.

As for BTS we might be running around my group might be close to ten is it a far walk from the BTS.

I not a clue outside of Nana area where where? We will be staying in that area one night from Pattaya. This is just one of the options that.

I want to include some of group want to hit massages places, Therma, GoGo, with this agenda and time being older a few will call it quits early this is a late night place so the brave will survive.

In regards to price I wanted to know so I can brief my cousins they have real bad habits like paying over 10,000 in many cases.

Thanks. I hope we can fit it in.

[EverythingThai]

I get the experience you had. I experience this similar in HK, Korea, Japan. In HK, Macau, clubs called China City both places even with Russian girls the difference it wasnt also a GOGO growing up summers my oldest brother job was to break my cherry.

Living on the Darkside there are a number of places but not Gogo or any place I noted like the drink bar. On the Darkside of Pattaya I don't venture never know who might be my neighbor but prior to Covid there use to be a favorite hostess place great food and live band down 3rd road.

Issue let me summarize! 200 baht per hour assume it was 1 girl, 3 hours later food drink your bill was 1900 baht. Took girl across to ST 2500 baht room included you shower, bang the hell out of her lots of steam in the sex and CIP raw hide style. My math 1900+2500=4400 baht correct so far tip not included. So based on 10,000-4400=5600 baht went extra to girl anf misc TIPS. Correct.

Personally I don't have any judgement in regards to what was paid. I noticef from my little research the front is black color. I'm interest first I was in the drink bar but now this place is more suited for a few family and friends coming to town late October. I notice if we took the BTS, the area noted one stop before Mo Chit, is it a far walk from the station.

Don't walk from the BTS, grab a motorcycle taxi for 20 baht.

About the tips, 5600, most to the girl and the rest to the momasons for taking care of me. One man and one lady, and a small tip to the servers.

Look at it like this. 4400 is the only number you guys need to worry about as that is what I spent on by bin. Tipping to the girl and the momasons and other staff is optional and this is why my level of treatment in the club and in the bedroom may not be the same as another punter might experience, whether they are Thai or a foreigner. I think this goes the same in every type of club you go and with any working girl you spend time with.

[EverythingThai]

Great review.

I went there a few weeks ago but I guess it was too early. I'm just curious, as I heard most of them don't speak English, wouldn't you feel a bit bored spending 3 hours with them? Or there would be cheeky stuff going on like the DFK etc throughout? I know if I'm at a gogo place I would probably not last a longtime chatting with the girls for more than 10 minutes. How about if I'm more of a person who likes to browse, chat to a few girls, may not partake then leave? Then would the sitting fee kinda reset 200 for a new girl?

If you change the girl, they will charge you again. Some girls do a 100 baht topless lap dance, so you can test the waters like that with some. You never went into the club so you never saw all the girls. They sit in the booths at the far end of the club and in the back hallway at the beginning of the night. So when you first walk in it gives the impression that there are no girls. You need to look a little closer.

About their English, if you don't speak any Thai and are there alone with no one that does speak Thai, you better be able to make it fun for the girl in other ways or she will ditch you or you will be limited to only the 10-20% of the ladies that will be comfortable with you. Don't know how you can chat to many girls if they don't understand you? Imagine being constantly on Google translate. The girl and you will get bored pretty quick. I don't think this place is for you. I wouldn't go.

[LittleBigMan]

I get the experience you had. I experience this similar in HK, Korea, Japan. In HK, Macau, clubs called China City both places even with Russian girls the difference it wasnt also a GOGO growing up summers my oldest brother job was to break my cherry.

Living on the Darkside there are a number of places but not Gogo or any place I noted like the drink bar. On the Darkside of Pattaya I don't venture never know who might be my neighbor but prior to Covid there use to be a favorite hostess place great food and live band down 3rd road.

Issue let me summarize! 200 baht per hour assume it was 1 girl, 3 hours later food drink your bill was 1900 baht. Took girl across to ST 2500 baht room included you shower, bang the hell out of her lots of steam in the sex and CIP raw hide style. My math 1900+2500=4400 baht correct so far tip not included. So based on 10,000-4400=5600 baht went extra to girl anf misc TIPS. Correct.

Personally I don't have any judgement in regards to what was paid. I noticef from my little research the front is black color. I'm interest first I was in the drink bar but now this place is more suited for a few family and friends coming to town late October. I notice if we took the BTS, the area noted one stop before Mo Chit, is it a far walk from the station.

[EverythingThai]

Thanks for your excellent review, eThai. Just a couple of questions.

There are some nights when I either have something lined up later in the night or just don't feel like taking a girl at the end of the night. Would a girl there get upset if I didn't take her home after spending 3 hours with me? If I spent 3 hours with a girl in a bar I would likely tip her 500-1000 baht. Would this be considered too little? Agree 1900 baht for 3 hours of play time is cheap.

You mentioned that the 2500 baht includes a room are these girls open to going back to your hotel (Sukhumvit area) as well?

I rarely tip waitresses much more than a nominal amount unless they're hot and I get play time (DFK, groping) with them. Are waitresses there pushy for tips? Is there any real advantage of tipping a waitress a lot there? I see no advantage in tipping or buying drinks for mamasans or non playful waitresses in gogo bars.

I'm clearly not as 'Jai Dee' as you are cause 5600 in tips alone would never happen with me even if I had the absolute best night of my life. I'd rather just save that and see the girl again the following night.

I see you gave a live update at 10 pm. What time do most of the girls arrive? I usually like to start my night at 8 pm. Too early for T-Ded?

Anyways, with 200-300 girls and a moma or popa son looking out for you, plus a little bit of Thai, you cant fail here unless the faring pulls some crap like I hear from some of the guys where they are so worried about every single baht and think too much and so on. You need to go with the flow. If you get upset in here about something stupid they will just ask you to leave. And if you think they have lost your business, they could care less, as there are a ton of other clients in here not making a fuss. So if you dont understand your bill because its 200 baht higher than you thought and you will scream to high heaven and refuse to pay it, dont go here. They will not only throw you out after the poor waitress pays your 200 baht without even making a fuss, but there will be a couple of thugs waiting for you outside to kick your ass. And believe me, this place is connected up the wozoooo, so unless you are killed, the cops will just come and help you to leave.

Dont forget about all the ladies sitting in the back when you go.

By the way, this last part of my post was not directed at you. It was a general statement to others.

[EverythingThai]

Some of us don't care about $20. Bangkok is a world class city, Pattaya is not. Ill pay the extra $20. If you can't afford it, Patts is for you.

I don't agree with much of what you post, but this has never been more true. I will even take this one step further. If a girl asks 2500 baht ST and you like her, regardless of location, Bangkok or Pattaya, why would you walk away from that if you only want to pay 1500 Baht? It's just a complete waste of time and energy for me to debate over 1000 Baht. If I like her I pay. If I just want to stick my dick in any hole, then ya maybe I would agree, but come on.

About Bangkok as a mongering destination, it's quite different than Pattaya. Bangkok is a normal city. The mongering areas are all spread out. The dating apps have tons of normal girls, so don't offer money for sex unless you are sure they are working girls. Otherwise a couple of screenshots later and you could find yourself in the police station in a heap of trouble. The girls in Bangkok just seem to be better all around. They dress better and take better care of themselves.

Pattaya on the other hand has this shit everywhere on every road, every corner and 90% of the girls in the Pattaya location in dating apps are working girls.

In the end, your strategy needs to change in Bangkok. Otherwise you will put your foot in your mouth and end up in a heap of trouble, but to not visit Bangkok because ST is $20 more just does not make sense. I will go you one better.if one cant afford $20 more per lady, they should probably not come to Thailand. If one overthinks every transaction and worries so much about whether he pays a little more than the going rate for pussy, then I dont see how this would be an enjoyable vacation.

Its simple, man sees a girl he likes.
Man asks girl how much
Man pays girl
Man fucks girl

If you cant pay to play, then dont play.

This is not relevant for the situation where the girl asks for a ridiculous amount for ST. But what if she does? Well, most girls asking for high prices are obviously doing so because they are extremely hot. Then you have to decide if you want to play in their pool or not. Right ?

The only other time is when the girl quotes you high because she does not like you. Then she knows if you accept, at least she is getting paid more to sleep with a guy she does not like.

True story now. Once I was quoted 10,000 ST. The girl was like a 20/10. A knock out. This was at levels in Bangkok just before Covid. When I immediately said yes she was shocked. In the room after we fucked, she told me she just does not like to go with western men because they complain too much and talk too much. She was quite happy with me because all I wanted to do was just fuck. I still see her to this day and now she only charges me 5000 ST, she is a knockout. Like one of those motor show girls. Pure white skin and big tits with a small firm ass and long black hair.

[EverythingThai]

It's not that mamasan will give you intel, it is that mamasan will tell the girl that you are a good customer and should be treated well. After you know mamasan, you can tell her what you want and she will try to find it. I tip mamasan well and the next time I see her I tell her how the session went. Mama remembers everything.

Of course, there are many mamasans and you can only get to know a couple.

Now you, my ISG brother have not lost the plot. 👍.