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10-20-24 01:16 #15133Senior Member

Posts: 1739Tuesday January 7th, 2025 after 'el theía de LOS reyes magos' or Epiphany.
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10-20-24 00:39 #15132Senior Member

Posts: 755Christmas vaca
You may get a few to return Dec 27/28 but most don't return to work until Jan. 2 or 3 However the best times to visit Bogota or most any Latin American country are the first 2 or even 3 weeks in December before Christmas week. That's when lots of girls are pressing for Christmas money. It's the best time to catch a chipper and sometimes some desperate girls who normally don't work in the hobby. _.
Originally Posted by VW1936
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10-19-24 19:09 #15131Senior Member

Posts: 60Holidaze
There is only a little slowdown following Christmas. Most Venezuelanas have no home to go back to or no ability to do go and return. Many Colombianas keep working because they need the money and customers are still there.
Originally Posted by VW1936
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I've not done a statistical study in SF or other clubs, but it feels like a 30% drop. For both chicas and customers. That was gut feel, I looked back to the daily lineup from La Celestina for something quantitative. A "normal" day is between 60 to 110 chicas. During the first week of January, this dips as low as 40 on a Sunday or Monday / festivo, but it's often between 50 and 90.
I don't think success depends on the quantity of chicas, rather it is a combination of the ratio chicas: clientes and your ability to select well. Also, looks for me are less important to personality and performance.
That said, I am not the best person to ask as I have non-pro options.
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10-19-24 17:46 #15130Senior Member

Posts: 219Bogota
I've been having a good time in Bogota for the past few days. I would love to meet another BM if anybody is interested to hang out. I'm not a newbie I'm know Bogota well and I go to avienda de mayo not just clubs in Santa Fe or 93. Pm me if anyone wants to grab a dinner or drink. I am in town for a few more days.
Santa Fe last night was hopping. Fiebre and Troya had the best chicas. There was a huge contingent of police with big white police bus parked in front of one of the clubs. Everything else was business as usual.
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10-18-24 18:18 #15129Senior Member

Posts: 77Bogotá in January
When do the working girls come back from Christmas vacation? In short I'm asking what's the mongering scene like in January?
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10-17-24 23:15 #15128Regular Member

Posts: 12Riohacha
I got a chick up in Riohacha that wants to get tag teamed if 2 friends are up for it. Also can do one on one. Please PM me for details. No $ involved.
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10-17-24 21:24 #15127Senior Member

Posts: 60Dining out and "I don't know"
LOL. I have repeated that same experience countless times. And I think I have some insight that applies to many Colombianas but not all.
Originally Posted by MrEnternational
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Sometimes the "I don't know" comes from the latin gender roles. It's the man's role to pick the place because he will be paying and it would be impolite otherwise. But after a couple years you get comfortable with each other, she will become comfortable to express her thoughts. But still the "I don't know" reappears LOL.
For other Colombians, depending on their background, they may go out to eat rarely outside their neighborhood and / or only dine out with family. It doesn't actually correlate with socioeconomic status.
While there are exceptions, anyone dating a nonpro Rolla more than 2 weeks knows about family dinners. If you want a long term relationship, it is to be expected and is obligatory. Pretty much an insult if you say no and would be the end of the relationship for many. You can predict that early on with a few questions during idle getting to know you phase: ask what she does for vacations. LOL. Probably family vacations, ask what family members go together and where they go. It could be just immediate family, but really often it includes 3 generations, and "primos". You can also ask to tell her about what she did for her last birthday. Or her mother's or sister's last birthday.
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10-17-24 21:06 #15126Senior Member

Posts: 60Frugal doesn't mean cheap
I agree with MaddTraveler on nearly all points. I think the point you are getting at is frugal doesn't mean cheap -- another way of "stay in your lane" perhaps. It's a very different experience in SF vs a GF or GFE including dinner, drinks and TLN elsewhere. You can use the car analogy sure, but I think the restaurant analogy is better. There are all kinds of ways to eat in Colombia, from things you can buy on the street to world class dining. While it is true you can get an experience that is a very good or very poor value, overall it is a very lot less expensive than US or Europe if you are trying to compare like for like. It is equally true WG and restaurants.
Some people only want to eat at some only want local street food, McDonalds (which exists in Locombia), some want only Michelin level. And some are like me that want and can afford a variety.
I do highly encourage all visitors to try the restaurant scene in BOG and, if you are into the hobby, as a second date I encourage extending a TLN to include dinner and drinks before. If pro or semipro, negotiate the TLN rate first and then propose starting earlier but including dinner and a drink.
I do have a little quibble with this:
Zona G is NOT the most expensive area of the city.
Originally Posted by MaddTraveler
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Yes, Zona G does have a few of the most expensive restaurants in the city: LEO, El Chato, Cielo. But there many others in Zona G not at that level of cost and quality. For me the most expensive area of the city for a date of any type is Zona T (around CC Andino and CC Atlantis). In Zona T there are some good restaurants for sure, but there are also a few which for me aren't high value for money -- specifically Andres Carne de Res and anything inside Andino). In addition to the restaurants, there is also the shopping. Taking a date or WG there is a big mistake as you are going to waste time, money or both. Also, for non pro you need to know what they will appreciate and be comfortable with. I've seen some WGs become really intimidated by fancy restaurants, come dressed inappropriately, or intentionally order the most expensive thing on the menu just because they could. I generally don't go to a good restaurant until 2nd meeting.
Nonpro tip: use a trip to Zona T or any big CC as a litmus test early in a relationship. Go to a Crepes or Wok in any big CC and see how much time they burn in stores just looking, or how many things they want you to buy for them. That will often foreshadow things to come. Atlantis, Unicentro, Grand Estacion, Plaza Central are all better for that test than Andino.
Now I am hungry.
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10-15-24 20:08 #15125Senior Member

Posts: 231100% agree. Back for a 2nd day there and this time went with Loretta. Another slim 21 year old with fantastic tits. Of the roughly 10-12 that came out honestly would be happy with any 1 of them but 3-4 particularly checked my needs. 50 k paid up front for the 30 minutes. Someone had mentioned that BBBJ is part of that 50 k but since I've always wanted the extras I just say specify that I want DATY, DFK, BBBJ and CIM. Loretta was a bit more mechanical than my previous visit with Christina but she still went to town on the BBBJ, spread her legs open wide for me to DATY and sat on me bouncing away with vigor but in reverse cowgirl I had to do more of the work as she either was getting tired or just not hugely into it. At the end she said it was only $80 k for the extras but just gave her the $100 k so 20 k of that was propina. So to summarize, $150 k for 30 minutes of BBBJ, DATY, DFK, multiple positions and CIM. Went back there yesterday (Monday) but it was closed for Day of the Races holiday.
Originally Posted by MaddTraveler
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10-15-24 03:05 #15124Senior Member

Posts: 18757Nobody put any spin on anything. If you are trying to say something, then do not say something that does not mean what you are trying to say. Words mean something. You do not get to use raggedy communication, then assume everyone knows what you are meaning to say, even though that is not what you wrote.
Originally Posted by MaddTraveler
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I have never posted in the forum of a place that I do not go. Show that post. Yeah you probably do not want to waste your time with it though because it is not true.
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10-14-24 18:34 #15123Senior Member

Posts: 18757I would not negotiate in a restaurant. In a strip club of course I would negotiate for a hooker.
Originally Posted by MaddTraveler
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I have been dating an actual judge for a couple of years. Friday night I asked her where she wanted to go and she did not know. We ended up going to a dive spot in Teusaquillo eating fried chicken for 30,000 pesos. If I am going somewhere other than Santa Fe then I only take a little more money than is needed for the Indrive. I scan my phone for payment everywhere I go, so there is no need for me to have 600,000 pesos in cash or physical cards on me. This is 2024!
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10-14-24 17:23 #15122Senior Member

Posts: 393No worries
My point was well made and clear. Bottom line if you can't afford a price that's already cheap in a Bogota strip club where you can bang for $30, where that wouldn't even be enough for a lap dance back home then your in the wrong hobby- those that complain. Or just stick to the $10-$15 options from the street. It's cheesy to be whining about it.
Originally Posted by MrEnternational
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But somehow Mr E you are always the know-it-all guy to spin and twist a simple logic. You are in every forum posting in places you never even go, arguing with everyone with the most nonsense posts as you did now.
Not a troll necessarily but it's almost as if you're a paid shitposter to get dudes to debate and increase the site views perhaps? Like you work full time here 365 days a yr doing this? Lmao. As you can see I can stay away from here 3 -6 mos or longer at times and have an actual life. I suggest you get one bud.
One of the real vets on here imd me once and said some people here have mult accts and even reply to themselves LOL. I can't.
If someone say oh, there are prices for everyone's budgets: Wg in A zone is x amt, Wg in be zone is x amt. That's a simple fact that doesn't require a debate. But you're like. Oh I bet I can get Wg from zone be and negotiate A pricing LOL, while beating your chest LOL. Wtfever dude.
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10-14-24 12:56 #15121Senior Member

Posts: 18757Your post did not say walk in with 2500 hoping to negotiate. Your post said walk into the dealer and complain about the cars being too expensive, which is actually the beginning of a negotiation. You literally would not need any money in your pocket to negotiate a cheaper price though. Maybe you think you are saying something that you are not.
Originally Posted by MaddTraveler
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10-14-24 04:43 #15120Senior Member

Posts: 393Reality
Not everything is negotiable. The term "stay in your lane" isn't meant to be offensive, rather it is also about how much you're willing to spend on whatever. Even rich people have budgets, so no need for absurd comments displaying your negotiating skills.
Originally Posted by MrEnternational
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Last week I met an actual state attorney on Bumble who wanted to go out, works in Centro but only wanted to go to zona g. We all know it's the most expensive area of Bogota. So if your visiting SF, you can bring 200 k or less in your pocket and it will be enough; but going on dates in those areas I carry at least 600 k in cash plus my CC. Dinner in one spot, some wine in another spot and I'm already at 300 k. Done it a few times with real quality non pros that I pursue. Not just on dates, there are tons of high-class strip clubs in that area that will cost you a min 500 k. So would you negotiate in those places if you only had 100-200 k in your pocket? FK out of here man. But like I said to you lately I don't take you seriously. And it's not just me.
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10-14-24 04:26 #15119Senior Member

Posts: 393Lol
All I can do is laugh. You and I def can be friends to crack jokes. Bruh, you would walk in a new Porsche dealership with 2500 usd in your pocket hoping to negotiate?
Originally Posted by MrEnternational
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Damn, how the heck can I argue with you man? I used take you seriously a while ago, but now I know you're just messing with me and people here. All good bro LMAO.

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