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[Banana Boi]

BB, curious how you get the two million number?

40,000 x 12 = 480,000 baht a year.

Thought that was weekly salary! Are you saying a Pattaya bar manager overseeing 200 staff and bar girls makes 14,000 USD per year? That's only 1315 baht ($39 US) per day! WTF.

[LittleBigMan]

2 million baht per year to be a bar manager. Guess that's not bad for Pattaya cost of living. Not the best but manageable. Personally I'd go for Assistant bar manager for only 5000 baht per month less. Seems a lot less stressful for only 5000 baht per month less.

120 waitresses? That seems like a lot!

What is a Captain?

How many weeks vacation do I get? What is my medical and dental coverage?

BB, curious how you get the two million number?

40,000 x 12 = 480,000 baht a year.

[Explorer8939]

I am renewing my Thai visa today. That means I have to hand over my passport and supporting documents to a visa agency, for processing.

As a result, I won't have a passport for an indefinite period, and without a passport, I can't travel. No hotel stays, no airplane rides. Basically, I am stuck in my condo in Pattaya.

I will try to make the best of it, but High Season is coming, and many ladies on my rotation are busy with customers, or have customer boyfriends visiting.

I might have to hit some bars. Wish me luck.

[Explorer8939]

One of the drawbacks of living in Thailand for 5+ years is watching bargirls age out.

There are 40 year olds (when I first met them) who don't work anymore. Either they are just too old, or sick, or dead. Some try to get by as housekeepers, some go back to Isaan to work rice. One problem they have is most have lost their sex drive, so boom-boom is hard for them.

The 30 year olds mostly haven't aged well. For one thing, their heads are rounder. Thai models have narrow heads, grandmas have round heads.

The 20 years are still okay, but cracks are showing, particularly for those who use yabba. They are beginning to show signs of grandma mode, even though they are young.

Lots of wear and tear for bargirls.

[Explorer8939]

I thought I add some content here about prices. It was not long ago that 1000 baht was the norm on soi 6. Lets take 2017 and look at the thai CPI.

https://tradingeconomics.com/thailan...rice-index-cpi

In 2017 January it was 98.15. In January 2024 its is 106.98. 107/98= 1. 09. So in generall almost a 10% price increase. In the same time the prices on soi 6 has increased with 100 %. But that is for tourists. Not for locals. It used to be cheaper in Pattaya but then they got more and more into the thing of having higher prices for tourists. So don't give me any of this bullshit about "don't expect to pay same as locals blah blah blah".

I add some pictures here to show what thais are paying for the same thing. I found them today.

For a Thai man to pay for sex in Pattaya is sad. Many bar girls pay for sex with a Thai man, one way or another. For a younger Thai man to have to pay rent in Pattaya is rare.

[Banana Boi]

What happends is that the koreans go for the cutest girls and the rest get no customers or little off them when others get detered by the prices. Its exactly what has happened in gogo and Angeles city. This whole thing that is about high prices because koreans pay it really does not benefit the medium looking staff.

I've always had a similar question. Everywhere we see blame on the Koreans and Japanese increasing the prices. Look at the type of girls the Koreans and Japanese generally go for. They have a certain look. Koreans and Japanese wouldn't touch 80-90% of the "Farang" style girls. This is only from my extensive Walking Street gogo bar experience. The girls who get barfined are the SAME ones night in night out. There are MANY girls I have never seen barfined unless the customer is named Rob Jones.

[Banana Boi]

2 million baht per year to be a bar manager. Guess that's not bad for Pattaya cost of living. Not the best but manageable. Personally I'd go for Assistant bar manager for only 5000 baht per month less. Seems a lot less stressful for only 5000 baht per month less.

120 waitresses? That seems like a lot!

What is a Captain?

How many weeks vacation do I get? What is my medical and dental coverage?

[SubCmdr]

The inflation of pussy prices is a something that exists only in the minds of those who are currently experiencing resource scarcity or have not really traveled the world as International Tricks.

Pussy prices for me are down 50 - 70 percent over the last 10 years

[SubCmdr]

A individual wrote this:

Motherfucker one came with a post about how much he loves the prostitute who lives with him because she takes him for a tour in Pattaya from time to time.

What exactly is the point this poster was trying to make?

For me, pussy only has real value when I have an emotional connection to the the pussy life support system. Without this connection a mouth, pussy or ass is just a place that assists me with ejaculation. Once ejaculation occurs I lose all interest in the pussy life support system that just assisted me with my ejaculation and I move on.

This is why I write: Pussy is Pussy.

I am talking about transactional sex that has absolutely no emotional component. That is why I cannot engage in the fantasy of GFE. I have real girlfriends and so not matter what this girl does my mind will not let me get past the idea that I am paying her to do whatever it is she is doing. You see I don't engage in self delusion.

So, if a individual cannot make or chooses not to make an emotional connection with ANY pussy life support system on this earth that is their call. But in my opinion that is a individual devoid of life and inner satisfaction.

A individual who thinks like the one who wrote the quote above is either emotionally unavailable to or they have a issue with a girl being a prostitute. That somehow a prostitute is not equal to him a human being and therefore does not deserve appreciation or love. He then goes on to double down on his belief by stating explicitly that he is better than me because: he is in it for the pussy, he dont love dem hos.

Like I said before: your time; your money; your dick; your call.

But do not come up in here trying to imply that you are better than any other International Trick that lays down with prostitutes. You nor any of the others are not coming to Thailand and dating engineers, lawyers and doctors. If you and the others are then are WHY would the be writing about those girls here?

One of the things that amazes me about Pattaya is that EVERY MAN and I do mean every man has a girl here. I do not know the nature of the relationships I see but, often the there is often more than a two point difference in the visual rating of the individuals. With the higher number going to the girl (ie. Guy 4 Girl 7). When I see that it is a beautiful thing. Society owes men. Men make the sacrifices that need to be made to create the society that exists today. They deserve sex.

That does not happen in developed nations. Developed nations put men into sexual prison so that they can be controlled. Make no mistake this occurs because the top 10% of men want it that way. They want to have access to all the pussy while 90% who put in the real work to make societies run struggle to get any pussy at all. Make no mistake, feminism is supported by men at the top that benefit from the system. The men who have the looks, personality and money to give them choices.

I have none of that. So my way around the problem at my age is to maintain relationships around the world where I have an emotional conception to pussy life support system. ATF is one of those relationships. So, look down at me if you want to. I'm good with it. Why?

because I am at peace with myself and all others

[Werqweq]

I've been to thailand a bit and ate mostly street food or at cheap cafes and mall food. But now I am trying to eat healthy. How easy is that to do? I'm wa ting more protein and less rice.

Easy. Search for "gai yang" (grilled chicken) in google maps for something delicious, and then use Grab to get to the nearest one, or even order to your room via grab if you prefer that.

Apart from that, I second EihTooms's salad recommendation. Myself I much prefer the Get Fresh chain to Salad factory (eaten at the latter once or twice, and more times than I remember at the former. Get their card if you're staying for a while for an effective 10% discount). There's also a very good salad shop a 20 minute walk down Soi 21, roughly opposite of the SWU university, near Tim Horton's, though the name escapes me at the moment. Couple either of them with some fish or meat.

In addition to that, the various food courts at the shopping malls. A zillion choices for cheap meat and vegetables. Pick and choose. Even the one at the sub-top floor of Terminal 21 is fine, if you get there at a time when it's not overflowing with noisy Chinese, though you will have a much better experience at the food hall at the bottom floor of Emquartier (a bit more expensive also however).

Last resort is just buy some readymade fish or chicken at the supermarket (e. G. , Tops) and eat it in your room if you can stand the smell, but it's been laying there the whole day and while I've never gotten sick from it, it doesn't taste particularly good either.

[KrumeLurer]

Out of these 5 pictures posted only one says she is based in Pattaya anyway, the one at 600 baht for 30 minutes and it's quite obvious she used the photoshop app at full scale.

Every others are based in Chonburi or Bang Saen except the one with "OMG" on her face which is in every single location in Thailand (typical ad from an agency trying to pimp their girls).

Yes, much lower prices.

Comparing Soi 6 today with 10-15 years ago makes no sense. It's a totally different monster now.

Back then we had bars with 6-10 isan ladies from very poor backgrounds, non-existent social media and only westerners (mostly old men) would venture in that Soi. It was 1000 b (or less) take it or leave it, and they were lucky if the customer bought them a couple drinks before going up.

Now the bars are swarming with 20+ ladies who already have the newest iPhone before arriving to work, who often have a very big social media following (sometimes OF on the side), and hundreds of Asian customers (especially Koreans) who have never bought less than 5 drinks at a time. These guys love to blow huge amounts on these girls, this is why every bar owner with half a brain has supplied their bars with shot "towers" that can hold up to 60 drinks. They get used quite often.

The 1000 b and 10% inflation mentality doesn't apply here, the product / service has completely changed.

So what you are saying is that there is a more supply now in those bars but higher prices despite that? The argument about the koreans would make sense if there was enough koreans for everybody, but there is not. Not on soi 6 and not in any other place. There is not enough koreans to keep all ladies busy. What happends is that the koreans go for the cutest girls and the rest get no customers or little off them when others get detered by the prices. Its exactly what has happened in gogo and Angeles city. This whole thing that is about high prices because koreans pay it really does not benefit the medium looking staff.

I have a few questions for you.

1. Have you ever tried to use one of these sideline websites or tried to contact one of these girls from X that cater to Thai Punters?

2. If yes? Do you speak Thai? Have you had good success?

3. Do you have a big dick?

4. Are you of Indian background?

As I have used these sideline websites, I can tell you this. If you think it's so easy for a foreigner, especially one on vacation who does not speak any Thai, has a big dick, or comes from a background that its unfairly stereo typed as a bad customer for Thai working girls, you are sadly mistaken that foreigners should have an easy time at paying the same as locals do. It is a different market and different ladies and customer all together.

I for one speak Thai, I don't have a big dick, and my background is not of a nationality that is unfairly stereotyped as a bad customer and I still need to spend at least 2 hours to get a meeting from one of these local sideline websites. Do you think the guys on vacation in Pattaya want to waste their precious vacation time dealing with drama from dick scared racist Thai ladies that can't speak even one word of English? No! They will go to Soi 6, beach road, or walking street because it's easy for them and that's what they have been exposed to online and on You Tube and so on.

As much as I give you credit for this post, it's not new info. Another punter did the same thing a page back if you read. Most punters in Pattaya on holiday will have no use for this info. On the other hand an expat may want to take a shot and that's me. I have the time as I live here. Alas, most don't.

Your post would make a lot more sense if it was not in the Pattaya section. If it was in another section like Bangkok, Isaan or the South it would make more sense. IMHO

I am not indian. My point is to show what thais pay in realtion to tourist. And compare that to prices a few years ago and the CPI. We can see that the price increases are for tourists.

[Explorer8939]

Riddle me this, then. If inflation has absolutely nothing to do with the general price of all goods and services, supply and demand, and the price of sex. . . Show me ONE INSTANCE IN HUMAN HISTORY where the price of sex has gone DOWN. And don't say an economic depression or recession; you'll just be proving my point.

Ladies were cheap during COVID.

[KenjiYoshioka]

Why would inflation have anything at all to do with the price of sex? Answer: it doesn't. Have any. At all.

Thai ladies are not assigned a job they have to do for a set price by the authorities. Supply and demand is immediate financial needs, personal feelings, preferences and pride. And the supply is static or now shrinking due to birthrate, while demand keeps growing. So the bid price goes up.

Ladies are all different.

One may be after as much money, as quickly as possible. Sex tourists will pay more and queue up, so she goes on TF, smiles and does what she needs to do. Or if she wants a bit of extra aecurity to make it bearable she take a soi6 contract.

The next may be short for rent or some kind of emergency. She does what she needs to do, but no way is she getting touched by some smelly foreigner who can't even speak the language, only make grunting sounds. She will wait for 2 locals at 700/1 rather than a single foreigner at 2000/1. And hope to meet some regulars, or a long term sponsor.

Another may be looking for free hookup for pleasure with nice young thai man. She posts on X to see what's out there. Do you think she wants to meet a sex tourist?? LOL! Theres plenty on X offering sex for free. My X account algorithm is finely tuned to the things I'm interested in!

1st Case in point. I took a student girl from X last year in Bangkok overnight, 5000 thb. I'm foreigner, don't speak thai, regular size for a white guy. She was 19, and desperate for rent money. When she turned up I flind out why she didn't have any regulars to take care of her. She had BO and stripey stomach. Had to give her a good wash.

2nd Case - 2 years ago exactly, I messaged another girl on X who wanted instant cash. She eventually replied and said OK, she would come to my hotel but 1000 thb farang surchange. She was youngand attractive, but her reply came through after I gave up waiting and was en route to a fiwfans booking.

3rd case of interest. That fiwfans booking.

Girl's last night in town, she was on a plane to Korea the next day for a 'working holiday'. Girl with a plan. She had a goal in mind and was saving up to buy an egg farm back in the province to live happily ever after.

So I can't imagine what the price of rice has to do with anything.

Supply and demand.

Riddle me this, then. If inflation has absolutely nothing to do with the general price of all goods and services, supply and demand, and the price of sex. . . Show me ONE INSTANCE IN HUMAN HISTORY where the price of sex has gone DOWN. And don't say an economic depression or recession; you'll just be proving my point.

[Intrepid123]

Comparing Soi 6 today with 10-15 years ago makes no sense. It's a totally different monster now.

Back then we had bars with 6-10 isan ladies from very poor backgrounds, non-existent social media and only westerners (mostly old men) would venture in that Soi. It was 1000 b (or less) take it or leave it, and they were lucky if the customer bought them a couple drinks before going up.

Now the bars are swarming with 20+ ladies who already have the newest iPhone before arriving to work, who often have a very big social media following (sometimes OF on the side), and hundreds of Asian customers (especially Koreans) who have never bought less than 5 drinks at a time. These guys love to blow huge amounts on these girls, this is why every bar owner with half a brain has supplied their bars with shot "towers" that can hold up to 60 drinks. They get used quite often.

The 1000 b and 10% inflation mentality doesn't apply here, the product / service has completely changed.

[Nuttin Serious]

Why would inflation have anything at all to do with the price of sex? Answer: it doesn't. Have any. At all.

Thai ladies are not assigned a job they have to do for a set price by the authorities. Supply and demand is immediate financial needs, personal feelings, preferences and pride. And the supply is static or now shrinking due to birthrate, while demand keeps growing. So the bid price goes up.

Ladies are all different.

One may be after as much money, as quickly as possible. Sex tourists will pay more and queue up, so she goes on TF, smiles and does what she needs to do. Or if she wants a bit of extra aecurity to make it bearable she take a soi6 contract.

The next may be short for rent or some kind of emergency. She does what she needs to do, but no way is she getting touched by some smelly foreigner who can't even speak the language, only make grunting sounds. She will wait for 2 locals at 700/1 rather than a single foreigner at 2000/1. And hope to meet some regulars, or a long term sponsor.

Another may be looking for free hookup for pleasure with nice young thai man. She posts on X to see what's out there. Do you think she wants to meet a sex tourist?? LOL! Theres plenty on X offering sex for free. My X account algorithm is finely tuned to the things I'm interested in!

1st Case in point. I took a student girl from X last year in Bangkok overnight, 5000 thb. I'm foreigner, don't speak thai, regular size for a white guy. She was 19, and desperate for rent money. When she turned up I flind out why she didn't have any regulars to take care of her. She had BO and stripey stomach. Had to give her a good wash.

2nd Case - 2 years ago exactly, I messaged another girl on X who wanted instant cash. She eventually replied and said OK, she would come to my hotel but 1000 thb farang surchange. She was youngand attractive, but her reply came through after I gave up waiting and was en route to a fiwfans booking.

3rd case of interest. That fiwfans booking.

Girl's last night in town, she was on a plane to Korea the next day for a 'working holiday'. Girl with a plan. She had a goal in mind and was saving up to buy an egg farm back in the province to live happily ever after.

So I can't imagine what the price of rice has to do with anything.

Supply and demand.

I thought I add some content here about prices. It was not long ago that 1000 baht was the norm on soi 6. Lets take 2017 and look at the thai CPI.

https://tradingeconomics.com/thailan...rice-index-cpi

In 2017 January it was 98.15. In January 2024 its is 106.98. 107/98= 1. 09. So in generall almost a 10% price increase. In the same time the prices on soi 6 has increased with 100 %. But that is for tourists. Not for locals. It used to be cheaper in Pattaya but then they got more and more into the thing of having higher prices for tourists. So don't give me any of this bullshit about "don't expect to pay same as locals blah blah blah".

I add some pictures here to show what thais are paying for the same thing. I found them today.