Tokyo

[Traveler X]

I'm a US citizen. I'm looking to retire in Japan. One component of my decision is mongering opportunities. Coming from Southern California, my mongering opportunities are pretty good. I know that other countries may be better in regard to pay to play-but overall quality of life is way better in Japan than other countries. My son is taking Japanese language courses and I'm trying to get to a point to be marginally conversational. Luckily I'm okay with non-FS service. Seems like services are very reasonable. Luckily I very much like Asian girls. Wouldn't feel so bad about leaving this county after tonight.

Correct, for non-FS Japan is way better than the US. The lightest services are dirt cheap. For 6000 yen ($39) you get all you can drink beer and 3 girls for 40 minutes to entertain you, topless, you can kiss them or suck on their tits. These are oppai pubs and the 100% foreigner friendly one is Luxe in Shinjuku. If you vibe with a girl buy her a drink and it tends to put her in a good mood, though I will say at Hosekinobako the girls are more pro and don't expect it. If you are conversational Japanese (2-4 years) and just want to chat, it's more like 4000 yen for 2 girls for 60 minutes. These are early bird prices around 6 pm, most shops 8 to 10 pm raise the price a bit, then raise it again near midnight. In the US even though I can bang a stripper at VIP for 200 plus the cost of VIP (100-140), she won't kiss me among several other things standard in Japan. I would know, I used to write a lot of guides for COI (city of industry) clubs. Since I like Asians anyways it's a no-brainer. See this comprehensive Japan guide by ISG user Traveler X:

http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...=1#post2946666

For FS, it's tricky which is better. It's complicated but Japan has lower starter rates at the lower-end soapland, but you tend to get okay looking girls, often in their 30's. The service is very good, but many shops now have a gaijin shops while most others won't' service foreigners. So your selection is limited. As others point out if you vibe with a girl you can get her LINE and meet her out of the shop, but only do this if really think she's above and beyond your type. There is delivery health but then you have to negotiate FS, a few girls do it for free, a few girls don't ever do it, with most girls taking 10 K or 20 K. It's a really YMMV thing. CFS is the norm but certainly some girls are flexible. In Socal you may know the korgs everything is guaranteed. As someone with 20 years of experience with both having made hundreds of appointments, average kgirl service is way better. Jgirls in Socal also offer bb and video as standard options. But if you're not into that, it doesn't factor in. The most important difference though is in Socal you need English to visit (obviously) while in Japan you should either speak Japanese or deal with all the issues already described.

I write many HYA lists so there are definitely may young and cute kgirls, they are the minority (same for jgirls in Japan). But the difference is there is a solid English community to support you. In Japan there's a bit more gatekeeping especially with many boards set up and run by the shops themselves. So I can leave simp messages of support to my favorite girls, but not leave an actual review for them. This site ISG lets you do that, but obviously there are few of us since it's Japan and only 2% of Japan is foreigners. So please review girls and shops if you see them, I will do the same after my next trip. Good luck!

[AussieGaigin]

I'm a US citizen. I'm looking to retire in Japan. One component of my decision is mongering opportunities. Coming from Southern California, my mongering opportunities are pretty good. I know that other countries may be better in regard to pay to play-but overall quality of life is way better in Japan than other countries. My son is taking Japanese language courses and I'm trying to get to a point to be marginally conversational. Luckily I'm okay with non-FS service. Seems like services are very reasonable. Luckily I very much like Asian girls. Wouldn't feel so bad about leaving this county after tonight.

If you're living there long term, it might be better to get yourself some FWBs from the local population.

[Lascivious]

I'm a US citizen. I'm looking to retire in Japan. One component of my decision is mongering opportunities. Coming from Southern California, my mongering opportunities are pretty good. I know that other countries may be better in regard to pay to play-but overall quality of life is way better in Japan than other countries. My son is taking Japanese language courses and I'm trying to get to a point to be marginally conversational. Luckily I'm okay with non-FS service. Seems like services are very reasonable. Luckily I very much like Asian girls. Wouldn't feel so bad about leaving this county after tonight.

[Rick Rock]

I just tried a place called Taitanic. Apparently it's the sister shop of Tokyo Amateur Escort. This one is in Yokohama.

It was very easy to book in English, right over the phone. Showed up and they were ready for me.

I picked the girl with the best looking boobs. Pics are definitely edited, but amazingly the women look pretty close. Much better than I expected!

https://escort-taitanic.com/2024/11/04/romi/

Paid 35,000 Yen for 65 minutes. Extra 12,000 for "AF".

We went to a love hotel they suggested. Right near the place. It was easy. She showed up right away. Looked good in her dress, even better in her panties.

Pretty basic shower but in the bed it quickly got steamy. Real AV experience. Mutual oral, cat bath, rimming, and I got FS rather than AF. I was really into the experience. Love these fresh young tight Japanese chicks.

Most places for foreigners push old and saggy women on us. I have been doing really well with this group.

[Rick Rock]

Hello fellow GP lovers. I'm looking for massages in Tokyo, the kind seen on PornHub, Xvideos, etc. Massages with stretching, with the girl urging you on all the time. Can you give me some light on where to find it?

Grateful.

MonkeyPaw28.

Haven't seen that porn, but it sounds a lot like my experience at Bamboo Forrest. https://japanese-girls-massage.tokyo/girl.

[MonkeyPaw28]

Hello fellow GP lovers. I'm looking for massages in Tokyo, the kind seen on PornHub, Xvideos, etc. Massages with stretching, with the girl urging you on all the time. Can you give me some light on where to find it?

Grateful.

MonkeyPaw28.

[Rick Rock]

Never had to ask for sex in a soapland going back many years. I guess whatever you have to do though.

Delivery health hit or miss, depends on the place and the person too.

Had luck at Tokyo Amateur Escort without even asking. Just paid for AF and ended up the other way around!

[Traveler X]

No negotiation or tipping in Tokyo soaplands. You go and you get sex. And it's legal.

I'm talking Delivery Health where depending on the shop and girl you'll need to negotiate. Some girls do it for free, many for a tip, a few are just ymmv or not.

Also I've always gotten fs at soapland but a few guys have reported girls running a whole course without it, if they think you're a noob. Make sure to ask. I just ask, usually I ask for bj (fera). Then by body language we just start sex. Other times I say "sex oneagaishimasu" if I want to hurry that along and she gets a condom.

Bonus, this is JAV actress Ichika Nagano doing delivery health. Note she does have 2 leaked uncensored JAV (see STARS-232), this is not it. No surprise there is an overlap between JAV and DH girls (and all SW).

Nagano Ichika:
https://www.javlibrary.com/en/vl_sta...s=aewci&page=5

Do not expect to run into an a-list JAV star at DH. It's really rare. You can book A-listers at Tora no Ana, but they have a VIP system where you have to book their lowered tiered girls before you can book the A-listers like Aika. The screencaps shown are from a contributor on a now defunct site. And no, she did not bang even though it was DH. It doesn't always happen.

[Rick Rock]

Prices are certainly higher in US but on the other hand things are upfront, no dancing around FS you will get it and don't need to negotiate or tip for it.

No negotiation or tipping in Tokyo soaplands. You go and you get sex. And it's legal.

[Runon99]

There are plenty of foreigner friendly places in Tokyo, in fact I think they don't even take Japanese customers! For example THC, and it's sister location GFE soapland. These places are very service oriented and not trying to rip people off. That's what I would recommend to a newbie who has never been to Japan and doesn't speak Japanese.

Last time I was there, I went to the THC soapland (then called Paradise) and had a 19 year old Japanese 10 out of 10, sliding her naked slippery gel coated body all over me for an hour, plus FS, for around $300. This seems like a much better deal than any hostess bar.

Is this the correct website? I could not find THC in Japan (all the search results are about the drug) but found this:

https://paradise-tokyo.net/price

THC is Tokyo Hentai Club. Search that.

THC: https://hentaitokyo.com/.

GFE Soapland: https://gfe-japan.net/.

[AussieGaigin]

Is this the correct website? I could not find THC in Japan (all the search results are about the drug) but found this:

THC is Tokyo Hentai Club. Search that.

[Traveler X]

There are plenty of foreigner friendly places in Tokyo, in fact I think they don't even take Japanese customers! For example THC, and it's sister location GFE soapland. These places are very service oriented and not trying to rip people off. That's what I would recommend to a newbie who has never been to Japan and doesn't speak Japanese.

Last time I was there, I went to the THC soapland (then called Paradise) and had a 19 year old Japanese 10 out of 10, sliding her naked slippery gel coated body all over me for an hour, plus FS, for around $300. This seems like a much better deal than any hostess bar.

If you live in the United States or Canada, there are agencies that bring Japanese girls over. However, these sessions cost more than you'd pay for a Japanese girl in Japan.

Is this the correct website? I could not find THC in Japan (all the search results are about the drug) but found this:

https://paradise-tokyo.net/price

Video option is becoming a lot more common these days, it's listed as 15,000 which is $99 USD. In the US it's typically 200. Prices are certainly higher in US but on the other hand things are upfront, no dancing around FS you will get it and don't need to negotiate or tip for it. It's guaranteed. The other thing is you can go before work, during your lunch, break. Not saying either one is better, but you can see how it depends on the person and their situation / location. They also bring over the better girls. When the girls worked in Japan, it's no surprise it turns out to be a higher end place. There is quite a gap in quality between different shops in Japan.

In NYC the other benefit is every girl gets reviewed a lot. Some guys see almost every girl, every week. So with 5 visits a week by 3-5 reviewers, the girls that are good draw customers. It's probably one reason why their market attracts and keeps the better girls more consistently. When a top end girl goes to DC / NOVA for example, everyone sees just her and the other 2-4 jgirls split the rest. A good girl can get 8 or 10 bookings a day, which is a lot more than even a popular girl in Japan (to be exact, even when the same girl goes back to Japan). This is a result of word of mouth and a "limited tour" model, it is much more intense in those two regions than elsewhere in the US or even Japan. Where most people just gatekeep their finds.

[AsiaExplorer]

Will I go back to Tokyo? A very slight maybe. I prefer places that represent great value and Tokyo is not one of those cities.

I'm sorry, but I think you went about your trip the completely wrong way. Those hostess clubs are designed to extract the maximum amount of cash from Japanese businessmen, while providing nothing in return, to keep them coming back in the hopes that spending more money might lead to something.

There are plenty of foreigner friendly places in Tokyo, in fact I think they don't even take Japanese customers! For example THC, and it's sister location GFE soapland. These places are very service oriented and not trying to rip people off. That's what I would recommend to a newbie who has never been to Japan and doesn't speak Japanese.

Last time I was there, I went to the THC soapland (then called Paradise) and had a 19 year old Japanese 10 out of 10, sliding her naked slippery gel coated body all over me for an hour, plus FS, for around $300. This seems like a much better deal than any hostess bar.

Another very good option is Osaka, which has at least two different brothel districts. No looking at pictures online or on an ipad, you can just walk down the street and see the girls in person and pick one you like. Yes, about half the girls do not accept foreigners, but there are plenty of mind blowing beautiful girls that do. I also like the theatrics of this place, they have to serve you "dinner" (some snacks and tea on a tray) to legally operate as a "restaurant". I could imagine this tradition going back hundreds of years and it's fun to take part in.

If you live in the United States or Canada, there are agencies that bring Japanese girls over. However, these sessions cost more than you'd pay for a Japanese girl in Japan.

[FilthyBeaver]

Kudos to you, you are as brave as you are intelligent. Japan has also been on my list but second tier for the exact reasons you so clearly pointed out. It's obvious to me that some help is required when your boots are actually on the ground there so I would probably use an app like Showaround to make a quick local friend to kick open some doors for me.

Tokyo is an amazing city. It is clean and very safe. If the people were as warm, friendly, and hospitable as Thai people, it would be an amazing city to visit regularly. I am willing to work through obstacles, but the glaring discrimination you receive is NOT worth it if you are coming to a country / city to spend your hard-earned money. So many of these places do NOT want your business despite hearing countless times how bad business is and how bad the Japanese economy is. I am a Caucasian man, but there are Caucasian men all over the world that will get the same exact experience as me upon entering any of these Tokyo establishments. I can only imagine how a tourist from India or the Middle East would be treated by these Japanese clubs. Do I think anything will change? No! Walk the streets of Tokyo and you will see it is probably the least diverse city in the world. If Japan wanted us to visit and bring in our tourist dollars, they would welcome visitors warmly and not shun us from patronizing their businesses. The Japanese could learn something from the Thai culture about how to be hospitable to foreigners.

Will I go back to Tokyo? A very slight maybe. I prefer places that represent great value and Tokyo is not one of those cities. Toronto, Sao Paulo and Tijuana are three of the best places in North and South America. Germany and Switzerland are good value in Europe. Thailand and the Philippines are great value in Asia. What I spent in Tokyo would have allowed me to party like a rock star in any of these other places. What I spent at O in Tokyo would have allowed me to bring a girl from Scandallo back to my hotel for an overnight. What I would have spent in Soapyland would have allowed me to pull 5 girls out of Hong Kong in Tijuana. What you spend in one night in Tokyo would allow you to spend a week in Bangkok or Angeles City. I can cross Tokyo off my list now, but I know where NOT to spend my money. The Japanese hostess clubs are an incredible experience, but like a slot machine in any casino, you have to continuously feed it with money for it to eventually pay off.

[Traveler X]

This is going to be a tough post to write. I have long held a desire to check out the adult entertainment scene in Tokyo, but never had the city high on my list. Despite having numerous tried and tested international cities under my belt, I spontaneously booked a flight to Haneda to satisfy my curiosity of Tokyo. Since I have traveled all over Asia for business and seen Japanese men in adult venues acting like drunken sailors, I was apprehensive of what they might have available in their home country. Since I find Japanese women incredibly beautiful, my mission was to identify the most beautiful women in Tokyo.

Thank you ATexGuy, you are a hero for pointing the way. Your experiences remind me of my first visits to Japan. Trial and error with many refusals, but a lot of accidental wins and meeting some interesting people. You did a lot in just a few days. I hope you also had some special memories sightseeing too, Japan is special.

The two clubs you were first rejected by were Hosekinobako (super hard word to pronounce) and Leicester (always pronounced Lester in Japanese). You first went to Luxe which is 100% foreigner friendly, sorry to hear you didn't get good girls until later. When a girl looks nothing like her photos, she might be substitute for the real girl. 90% of girls I saw were photo accurate, but the very hottest girl of all was brand new so she borrowed someone else's profile. I played with her for 3 long hours. It is the ultimate gacha game I suppose. My reviews on the three oppai pubs:

http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...59#post2927559

Make use of the '24 hour Manzoku' shops like ATexGuy, they are 3rd party and will know which shops will take foreigners. In my case I could speak Japanese so they made a phone call to Hoseki and said "Can I introduce you to a customer? He is a foreigner who can speak Japanese" The answer was Yes. Maybe if it was busy it would be No. They never mentioned my race - race doesn't matter unless you are Black or Indian, all that matters is your Japanese ability and that you're a foreigner. Even my Japanese American friend was treated the same.

After my 1st visit to a shop like Hoseki, I presented a discount card a girl gave me that also acted as proof I'm a repeat visitor. Or save your receipt with your name like ATexGuy. That's what they really care about, there are enough foreigners that run on the bill or cause trouble but a receipt rules those two out instantly. Notice how the girls vouched for ATexGuy, if the girls feel safe they are happy to serve foreigners (it's a big if). I'm not saying that the staff's hostile attitude is okay, just that we have to be problem solvers. There is an English staffed shop like Manzoku but forgot the name of it.

My first time in Japan I wasn't even there to monger, just to see a girl. I was walking downtown Sakae in Nagoya when a Japanese tout beckoned me in. It was weekday dinner time so things were dead slow. Even with limited Japanese (3 months), as a presentable gentleman I could enter an oppai pub. I actually entered three. I don't know if it's still true but Nagoya is so cheap compared to Tokyo, it was 4000 yen ($27) to make out with 3 women for an hour. They were quite cute. People drop $1 K on strippers in NYC and don't even get LFK.

After making out with the third girl and giving her tits one final goodbye kiss, I was a transformed man. I became Traveler X. I made the very first review for Nagoya on this site, twenty years ago:

http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...l=1#post187592

There is a foreigner tax regardless of race. Even my Japanese American friend who could speak basic Japanese was charged a foreigner tax, though I'm sure other places will make an exception. I saw many Asian Americans at oppai pubs, they all spoke middling Japanese (2-10 years). Being white is not a big impdeiment (it's better than other races), the language ability is. As your experience shows, once they know you are a legit business person and not some bum that saved up cash (this is most their customers btw), they are less worried. We foreigners all look the same to them whether White, Asian, or other. It's why once I see a girl and she gives me her card, simply presenting the card gains me re-entry. Though as a rule it means you are also asking for that girl. If she's not working that day, they still give you discount and hand back the card. They even apologized twice to me and I was like "No really, it's fine"

I too enjoyed talking with women, it's not for many other guys who just want to bang but but there's a reason it's popular. "Talk only" places can be cheap fun, but of course there are super high end places too where it costs 10 x as much and the ladies are amazing. Thanks for sharing your experiences. Most Japanese women are refreshingly honest and upfront, they are not going to pretend they'll go out with you after then not do it. Or they'll tell you nicely they don't go out with me, and it's usually the truth. We can understand they'll make an exception if they make a special connection, but the jist is still true some girls are not there to bang.

"Fully prepared, I pulled out my credit card receipt from the night before and was immediately escorted to a table. " OMG I never though to this, their reaction is very Japanese and golden. I have an old habit of "leave no trace behind" but do keep girls' cards to get back in. A receipt is even better proof.

"She politely explained that a customer came in and purchased champagne and a vip room. She said would not be able to spend time with me and she was honest that she needed to go out with this customer once the club closed" This is a classy girl, doing it the right way and being upfront and respecting your time. And yes, they do not generally have the freedom to pick and choose, if a guy books her he gets her. It's the business and they are professionals.

"Maybe 25% of the place was occupied by really young Japanese guys that were drunk and passed out. " Oppai pubs are 10% whale customers, 10% good customers like you and me who spend generously, and 80% cheapskates who might not even buy a drink. The reason they don't want to let a white guy like you in is they don't want to add to the 80%. Once you pull out the receipt from yesterday, it's a 180.

"I explained that this was my last morning in Tokyo and I was willing to spend money if he was willing to give me the girl of my choice. He smiled and asked me who I wanted. I pointed out this petite little lady. He said he would bring her over once she was finished with the other customer. Sure enough, in 10 minutes she was brought over and immediately hopped on my lap and put her tongue in my mouth. This tiny little Japanese girl acted like she was in love with me" Props to you, I probably should do this. Instead, I will go through 9 girls just to find the girl I want. I think 95% of guys won't do that, but somehow I love the challenge. Ultimate speed dating right.

"The way she was straddling me, grinded on me, and kissed me, I knew that I had to sit in one of their vip booths. We got the attention of the host and he quickly moved us. I did two hours with this little lady and had a blast. ".

I'm so glad you gave it one last chance and made it clear what you wanted. Could have been a more mediocre trip otherwise. When I said I made out with a perfect 10 for 3 hours, it's true. But I had to see 18 other girls over three nights to do it. I mean I got two other 9's I'll always remember, but still. You and I both spent well compared to other customers, but I consider it a steal. Never had such a good experience with the 3 best girls elsewhere, and keep in mind I'm banging and filming jgirl porn in the US so it's no like I don't have access.

The unpleasant feeling of discrimination you had lingered with me as well my first trip. I made 19 more trips after that with less and less problems. So I don't justify their behavior, but I think it can be solved on repeat visits with experience. Not to mention that every year more shops have English staff and are foreigner friendly if you research them.