Pattaya Reports

[Explorer8939]

You may find that this year, it may not be necessary for you to bail because of high season. Why? Because this year, high season will be a big disappointment. Yes, many of the guys are coming back, but those guys will stay for shorter periods of time because inflation in the west is killing many people. Then there are the the guys that can't afford to come this year. The US punters who are worried about their cash flow and the results of the election next month. My prediction for Pattaya is that the place is rammed right now with girls and there are still not enough punters to go around. The top girls will still make money, but alas, the rest will just get by or dare I say it, even won't be able to survive. Look at Soi 6 bars right now. Look at the gents clubs, such as Club Fate. Look at the go go bars. The bar owners are stacking up on girls for high season, but there still won't be enough punters to go around. This high season, only the top go go bars, only the top freelancers, only the consistent gents clubs, only the good beer bars will survive. Another indication of a disappointing high season in Pattaya is the amount of live streams that are going on. The girls and bar owners alike are using these live streams to subsidize their incomes because there are more girls in preparation for high season, but not enough punters. I have even seen some freelancers open their own live streams because of this. This high season will be shorter, as it will start later and finish earlier. Walking street will be busy on weekends, as well as Soi 6, but there will be no consistent flow of customers on a daily basis this high season. A lot of bars will go under after this high season. Why? Many bar owners have put their livelihoods on the line. They should not of even opened a bar unless they have a good cash flow to support themselves. I have seen new bars open and close in a matter of only a few weeks because the owner has no operating capital.

In summary Explorer. If you like Pattaya, I would not go anywhere this year. Your regular girls will not disappear like you think and the ones that do will return a lot quicker than before. This high season in Patts will be a pussy fest. That's my prediction. A guy with your skills will be picking up the left overs for next to nothing and these leftovers will be a lot of pretty hot and sexy girls.

The ladies in my rotation are saying there is an uptick in customers now. And there is a shortage of new ladies coming to Pattaya.

The fly in the ointment is the excess of bars in Pattaya.

And there is definitely a lot more visitors in Thailand now. Last month, Suvarnabhumi had one Immigration hall open with short lines, this week, 2 halls were open with long lines.

[Mr Enternational]

Sorry I am confused. This website is for posting about sex and mongering in Pattaya. I had no idea you were in a committed 14 year relationship with a Thai lady. Let me know when you start to report on mongering and we can compare notes about Pattaya mongering. Until then, I am not sure what you are doing here. Take care and sorry.

So you are saying that he can not monger if he lives with someone and loves someone?

[EverythingThai]

I have spent half my life in Thailand. I also worked there for a time.

What exactly do you want to tell me about Thailand now? The woman in your video is not representative of the entire country. The video was made by people who have never been to Thailand themselves. I know hundreds of videos like this. But that is not the reality.

I have been living with a Thai woman for 14 years. And I will spend the next 20 years with her until I die. I love her.

What exactly do you want to tell me about Thailand now? Are you starting inflation again now?

I don't hate Pattaya. Did I say that? All I'm saying is that the girls there are rip off. I have an apartment outside Pattaya. I currently spend half my life in Thailand and the other half in Europe. In 2 years I will completely emigrate to Thailand. I don't hate Pattaya. You misunderstood something.

Sorry I am confused. This website is for posting about sex and mongering in Pattaya. I had no idea you were in a committed 14 year relationship with a Thai lady. Let me know when you start to report on mongering and we can compare notes about Pattaya mongering. Until then, I am not sure what you are doing here. Take care and sorry.

[MadDin19]

YOU DO NOT LIVE HERE SO YOU DON'T KNOW THE TRUE REALITY.

I have spent half my life in Thailand. I also worked there for a time.

What exactly do you want to tell me about Thailand now? The woman in your video is not representative of the entire country. The video was made by people who have never been to Thailand themselves. I know hundreds of videos like this. But that is not the reality.

I have been living with a Thai woman for 14 years. And I will spend the next 20 years with her until I die. I love her.

What exactly do you want to tell me about Thailand now? Are you starting inflation again now?

One last point. If you hate Pattaya so much, you do not need to come here. You do not need to post here. You are free to find another area to spend your money.

I don't hate Pattaya. Did I say that? All I'm saying is that the girls there are rip off. I have an apartment outside Pattaya. I currently spend half my life in Thailand and the other half in Europe. In 2 years I will completely emigrate to Thailand. I don't hate Pattaya. You misunderstood something.

[Vivphab]

Yes you may be correct. But it may be due to current war situation in middle East.

Viv.

Maybe you have not seen the recent news about China. The stock market there took a huge dive and many people lost everything. Factories closing left right and center and rich Chinese have lost everything. For me I agree but exclude China.

[SubCmdr]

You may find that this year, it may not be necessary for you to bail because of high season. Why? Because this year, high season will be a big disappointment.

Brother you are dead on point about high season analysis and predictions.

My regular vendors (non-sexual) are telling me things are slow and are hoping for a late start of high season next month. They tell me things are slower than they were this time last year. Anecdotal evidence for sure, but I don't see what this guy sees:

I took a taxi from Pratumnak to Khao Talo and back last night. Unfortunately, traffic in Pattaya is getting jammed up because there are too many people on the roads.

Quite the opposite. I am on the Baht (did I spell that right) Bus traveling from Jomtien to Central Pattya all the time. The usual crowds that fill the Baht Bus are not there. I am still having to wait for the Baht Bus to fill up on Second Street for the return trip. Even during the business hours. I am not seeing a crush of tourists in my favorite eating spots nor in the mall. But hey, what do I know. I'm a new poster.

ROTFLMO

[SubCmdr]

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[EihTooms]

I agree as US and Europe is under recession less travellers will come. But Japan, China, Korea and India tourist will come in large numbers. So impact will be less.

Regards,

Viv.

I am not predicting the future, but the last time the USA had a Recession was in 2020, four years ago, with no serious indication one is about to emerge anytime soon.

And for at least since last December the typical American worker has been better off in terms of purchasing power adjusted for inflation by about $1,400 USD per year.

The typical U.S. worker out-earned inflation by $1,400 a year, data shows.
Even as price growth has surged in the pandemic era, earnings of middle-class and even lower-class jobholders have risen too.

https://www.nbcnews.com/business/eco...ows-rcna168579

I know one political faction has been stoking complaints about the price of eggs and bacon for the past 2-3 years, which is something I have been hearing everyone and his cousin complaining about for practically every day of my 7+ decades on the planet.

But I don't think grocery stores are throwing out unsold spoiled eggs and bacon for lack of buyers any more today than ever. Americans now have the money to buy them and then some.

Just sayin'.

[Vivphab]

I agree as US and Europe is under recession less travellers will come. But Japan, China, Korea and India tourist will come in large numbers. So impact will be less.

Regards,

Viv.

You may find that this year, it may not be necessary for you to bail because of high season. Why? Because this year, high season will be a big disappointment. Yes, many of the guys are coming back, but those guys will stay for shorter periods of time because inflation in the west is killing many people. Then there are the the guys that can't afford to come this year. The US punters who are worried about their cash flow and the results of the election next month. My prediction for Pattaya is that the place is rammed right now with girls and there are still not enough punters to go around. The top girls will still make money, but alas, the rest will just get by or dare I say it, even won't be able to survive. Look at Soi 6 bars right now. Look at the gents clubs, such as Club Fate. Look at the go go bars. The bar owners are stacking up on girls for high season, but there still won't be enough punters to go around. This high season, only the top go go bars, only the top freelancers, only the consistent gents clubs, only the good beer bars will survive. Another indication of a disappointing high season in Pattaya is the amount of live streams that are going on. The girls and bar owners alike are using these live streams to subsidize their incomes because there are more girls in preparation for high season, but not enough punters. I have even seen some freelancers open their own live streams because of this. This high season will be shorter, as it will start later and finish earlier. Walking street will be busy on weekends, as well as Soi 6, but there will be no consistent flow of customers on a daily basis this high season. A lot of bars will go under after this high season. Why? Many bar owners have put their livelihoods on the line. They should not of even opened a bar unless they have a good cash flow to support themselves. I have seen new bars open and close in a matter of only a few weeks because the owner has no operating capital.

In summary Explorer. If you like Pattaya, I would not go anywhere this year. Your regular girls will not disappear like you think and the ones that do will return a lot quicker than before. This high season in Patts will be a pussy fest. That's my prediction. A guy with your skills will be picking up the left overs for next to nothing and these leftovers will be a lot of pretty hot and sexy girls.

[EverythingThai]

I took a taxi from Pratumnak to Khao Talo and back last night. Unfortunately, traffic in Pattaya is getting jammed up because there are too many people on the roads.

So, it's getting to close to the time when I bail from Pattaya for High Season and head to other places.

You may find that this year, it may not be necessary for you to bail because of high season. Why? Because this year, high season will be a big disappointment. Yes, many of the guys are coming back, but those guys will stay for shorter periods of time because inflation in the west is killing many people. Then there are the the guys that can't afford to come this year. The US punters who are worried about their cash flow and the results of the election next month. My prediction for Pattaya is that the place is rammed right now with girls and there are still not enough punters to go around. The top girls will still make money, but alas, the rest will just get by or dare I say it, even won't be able to survive. Look at Soi 6 bars right now. Look at the gents clubs, such as Club Fate. Look at the go go bars. The bar owners are stacking up on girls for high season, but there still won't be enough punters to go around. This high season, only the top go go bars, only the top freelancers, only the consistent gents clubs, only the good beer bars will survive. Another indication of a disappointing high season in Pattaya is the amount of live streams that are going on. The girls and bar owners alike are using these live streams to subsidize their incomes because there are more girls in preparation for high season, but not enough punters. I have even seen some freelancers open their own live streams because of this. This high season will be shorter, as it will start later and finish earlier. Walking street will be busy on weekends, as well as Soi 6, but there will be no consistent flow of customers on a daily basis this high season. A lot of bars will go under after this high season. Why? Many bar owners have put their livelihoods on the line. They should not of even opened a bar unless they have a good cash flow to support themselves. I have seen new bars open and close in a matter of only a few weeks because the owner has no operating capital.

In summary Explorer. If you like Pattaya, I would not go anywhere this year. Your regular girls will not disappear like you think and the ones that do will return a lot quicker than before. This high season in Patts will be a pussy fest. That's my prediction. A guy with your skills will be picking up the left overs for next to nothing and these leftovers will be a lot of pretty hot and sexy girls.

[Coolie High]

Then the last point that you have completely missed is that Pattaya is a tourist town. This alone will justify the increase in prices in Pattaya. The price of rents has gone up for my bar owner clients so they are also going to raise their prices for drinks and bar fine too. The girl in the video might be doing something wrong, but the fact of the matter is that I know tons of girls like her. That's the big piece of info you are missing. YOU DO NOT LIVE HERE SO YOU DON'T KNOW THE TRUE REALITY.

EASY ET, we all can see that you know what you're talking about. No need to flex. Keep spreading the knowlege and doing your thing. Peace.

[EverythingThai]

OK, I've seen the video twice.

The video shows that the cost of living in Thailand has increased by 17% in 12 years. This corresponds to an average inflation of exactly 1. 5% per year. The video shows the living situation of a single Thai woman. Relating this to the overall situation of an entire country is not serious. The fact is that prosperity in Thailand has improved enormously in the last 15 years. Incomes rose by more than 1. 5% during this period. Even if this single woman in the video says otherwise. Maybe she's doing something wrong.

If a fu** on Soi 6 cost 700 baht 15 years ago (equivalent to 2 days of hard work for a normal worker) then with inflation at 1. 5% it should now cost 837 baht. Today a girl gets a worker's weekly wage for half an hour of boum boum. And the service is worse.

This has nothing to do with inflation. This is a tourist rip-off.

Let me spell it out for you. If you watched the whole video, you would see that all Thai girls who earn a similar Baht actually experience more inflation than what your numbers reflect. Your issue is you seem to think this is an isolated incident and this girl in the video is just a one off example that is not the norm. If you lived here, you would know that thousands and thousands of girls live under the same conditions and experience the same issues with inflation as the girl in the video. If you understood this, then you would understand why the Pattaya working girls charge what they charge, which can be different day by day depending on the punter, their need for funds and so on.

Then the last point that you have completely missed is that Pattaya is a tourist town. This alone will justify the increase in prices in Pattaya. The price of rents has gone up for my bar owner clients so they are also going to raise their prices for drinks and bar fine too. The girl in the video might be doing something wrong, but the fact of the matter is that I know tons of girls like her. That's the big piece of info you are missing. YOU DO NOT LIVE HERE SO YOU DON'T KNOW THE TRUE REALITY.

Now to say that Pattaya is a tourist rip off? Well all over the world tourist areas charge more. However, we expats have proven that you do not need to partake in it and there is a huge menu to choose from in Pattaya. On that menu there are prices of all denominations. You as the punter choose to go where you want to go and spend what you want to spend. So, while you complain about the tourist trap and raising prices that are not justified because the amount of inflation is not matching the price increases, we expats are going to venues where the prices are actually not so high. Your problem is you want to go to a walking street go go bar and play with the big boys, but you don't want to spend the money or you can't and that makes you angry and that's why you complain about prices.

Look at Explorer. He is a guy that has money. He chooses not to go to these areas. Instead, he goes to other areas and sees other girls that don't work in the walking street bars. Do the same. use Thai Friendly. Meet freelancers in bars and clubs. Go to beer bars. Go to Gents clubs. The point is that if you want to find that 1000 Baht ST, you can easily find it. Guess what else he does, he actually meets up with the girls working on walking street after they finish work and fucks them for less than half the price. Instead of complaining, do the same. Sub does a lot of these same strategies as well. Don't blame the tourist trap, blame yourself. You want to play with the big boys, but you don't want to spend the money. It kills you to see some of the best looking girls charging high prices. Why do they work in these tourist areas? It's for a reason. Duh!!! They want to earn more money.

One last point. If you hate Pattaya so much, you do not need to come here. You do not need to post here. You are free to find another area to spend your money. What is clear is that you can't play with the big boys and you choose not to go outside of those tourist areas to find what you want. You have only yourself to blame for that and not the Pattaya tourist trap. The big difference is there are guys that have money because they are careful and smart, but when they want to go to walking street and pay, they can. Then there are other guys that don't have the money and they complain about raising prices because of that. Which guy are you? If I were you, I would focus on becoming guy number 1. That way you have choices.

ET out

[EverythingThai]

1000 THB is 300 THB more than 700 THB. I am supposed to learn Thai in order to save 300 THB per orgasm?

Last night, two separate girls off of Thai Friendly: BBBJ, multiple positions, BBFSCIP. 1000 THB each.

You mean I could have saved 600 THB by running in the Thai Only circles?

ROTFLMAO!

My advice for the resource poor among us is to put in more work in your countries of origin before getting on the plane to become a International Trick!

More evidence that our Thai only sideline girl poster is not comparing the same product as he calls the girls. That 600 or 700 baht is for 30 minutes or so and is covered service with a condom.. Look at what sub got for 1000 baht off Thai Friendly. He fucked 2 girls BB and paid them 1000 baht each. I'm sure the two encounters lasted more than 30 minutes each. So let's compare apples to apples as this is a fair comparison.

Thai only sideline FL 600-700 Baht ST for 30 minutes. Must use a condom.

Thai Friendly hook up 1000 baht. BBFS CIP 1000 Baht and i am sure more than 30 minutes. All TF ST emcounters are normally 1-2 hours and 1 shot. This is 500 Baht lower than the 1500 baht I pay on occasion because I simply don't care to negotiate.

This is an apples to apples comparison in my opinion. Why? Both options are freelancers. The only difference is one is an outcall and one is an in call.

Don't really understand why the same prduct should be 2 or 3 times the price. It did not used to be like that.

So, this is basically the same product as you say it. Which one is better? Did sub get ripped off as your mind sees it? I think not. IMHO, they are not the same product and sub still got a better overall deal on price and value for money than the Thai guy who would pay 700 baht for 30 minutes. Different product but an apples to apples comparison for the reasons I stated above. They fall under the same category of working girl generally.

Which one would the guys prefer? A Thai only sideline girl for 700 Baht ST who can't speak a word of English, that will take you hours and hours to find and get them to agree after using google translate , and is dick scared or a TF FL who can at least communicate with you basically, one who is not dick scared and one who will fuck you without a condom and let you blow your load deep inside her pussy?

Let's take a pole. which one would you choose?

[MxTH9]

When you take a girl from a club on Walking Street at the end of the night (example Myst, Insomnia.), how much money do you usually give her?

[Explorer8939]

I took a taxi from Pratumnak to Khao Talo and back last night. Unfortunately, traffic in Pattaya is getting jammed up because there are too many people on the roads.

So, it's getting to close to the time when I bail from Pattaya for High Season and head to other places.