Bogota Reports

[Black Page]

I got off the phone with Schwab asking about the exchange rate. It seems that when you do not accept the exchange rate offered by the ATM, the exchange rate that your card brand offers (Visa / MC / Amex) is the one used.

"It seems that"? You did not read this?
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...265&viewfull=1#post2958265.
That should be obvious to all who spend money abroad with cards.

[AddictedToWomen]

Sessioned with Ivanka at Tantra. Super cute black girl with body just the way I like them. That's where the good news ends though. Another 50 k to suck her tits, another 50 k for DATY. No kissing, very little sucking, no massage. Very passive, starfish type. She came, I didn't.

That's two mediocre experiences at Tantra now. Either I'm just shit at picking girls, not impossible, or it's more of a quick pop establishment.

[AddictedToWomen]

Why do you need their number? Just go there. You don't need reservation.

To see what their current line up looks like.

[GauntMan]

I just got back from the ATM and indeed, if you decline the conversion rate offered by the ATM, you still get your money but the receipt will not show you the conversion rate. I'll need to wait until the withdrawal reflects on my online banking.

I got off the phone with Schwab asking about the exchange rate. It seems that when you do not accept the exchange rate offered by the ATM, the exchange rate that your card brand offers (Visa / MC / Amex) is the one used.

Googling out I found this handy site.

https://usa.visa.com/support/consume...alculator.html

[NorthernLight]

Why do you need their number? Just go there. You don't need reservation.

Anyone got the new WA number for Tantra? Numbers on the Wiz and FB pages seem dead.

[AddictedToWomen]

Anyone got the new WA number for Tantra? Numbers on the Wiz and FB pages seem dead.

[DaVinci40]

Never really concluded this trips report down to Bogota so I'll just end it with final thoughts. I wrote more specific details in my other reports so check those out.

In general:

Club girls in Santa Fe- the girls range from 80-150 depending on what you want. And in general 120 k seems to be the standard at least for me which included BBBJ, DFK (some would do this well and others wouldn't), DATY and multiple positions. Depending on how cute the girl was that might also include CIM but typically add another 20-30 k for that. I tip (that's just me and if they do a good job) so I'm typically walking out after a girl spending $150 k all up with propina. I rarely drink with a girl as I have limited Spanish and what Spanish I do have and understand is difficult to do anything with as the clubs music is extremely loud.

Paisas. F, I can't stand Paisas but there's always 1 girl that I pick from there. In general I find the place underwhelming. It's huge inside and I don't get why they can't fill it up with more girls or better quality girls. The music is insanely loud as well. Having said that I picked up this insanely slim girl that bordered on almost anorexic (thin is my preferred body type and she bordered on almost being too thin but she was too cute and slim to pass up) who was extremely compliant in the room. I forget the price now but since everything hovered around 150 k I believe I took her up for 120 k and tipped her at the end. Every other night I was there Paisas was dead (including Friday and Saturday) with better talent in the other clubs.

Troya. You can't really go wrong in here. Yes, sometimes there might not be one to your liking and you'll end up in another club but if you're here over a few days you'll hook up with a girl from here at least once. Highlight was a cute red headed girl who had a very slim blonde friend. I wanted to bang them both. Not many girls there with red hair so she'the be easy to find. She was great in the room. Really into DFK and was fun, smiling and a bubbly personality in the room which made it even better. So if you see a cute young red headed girl with an equally cute slim blonde friend you can't go wrong.

Antones. I usually find 1 girl in here worth it but this trip it just wasn't happening for me here. But I've mentioned before I usually like to start my night in here and just grab a poker beer for 10 k, sit down and watch the girl on stage touch herself while there's porn playing in the background tv's to just start the night off right. Plus, usually after 1 beer you've seen the full rotation of girls for the next 2-3 hours in there so you know if it's worth coming back into.

Venus. This time I didn't do anyone from Venus. I actually like the place but on the 2 times I poked my head in it was a bit quieter but it's worth a look as some of the girls can be cute and it just has a bit of a raunchy feel to it which I like.

Fiebre. Like troya you usually can't go wrong in fiebre. Often the girls from troya and fiebre switch between clubs depending on how busy each one is. Banged a cute one in here who first asked for 200 k for BBBJ, DFK and CIM. Lmao. I said no and since she quoted so high I said I'll do 80 k. She then started being like "oh cmon papi I make you feel good" then told me 150 k. I said I'll do 100 k and that's the end of it. She then took her tits out and put her nipple against my lips and to be fair they were looking good so I asked if I can cum on her tits and mouth for 120 k and she said yes LOL so up we go. Sorry to the next guy that got the lap dance. Daniella. She was particularly good at reverse cowgirl looking at me while riding in the mirror up against the wall of the room in fiebre.

Texas and California. I get the 2 mixed up. The small place that's on the corner. Small stage. It's worth poking your head in. It seems to mostly have SG quality girls but that means that there's sometimes some random cute ones. On this trip I didn't find any I like. But then the place that's kind of next door to that one I did have a good time. Never been in there before. You walk up some stairs and then lo and behold it's completely different than what you would think from the outside. It's got a huge stage and it's kinda big up there. When I went on what is the Colombia equivalent of Columbus Day most of the clubs were all closed except for this one. 2 slight older girls were up on stage and while not my type they were trying hard and there wasn't much else happening so I got a poker beer for 10 k. Out of nowhere comes this cute little thing and asks if I want a dance. Of course I'll take a dance. It ended up with a 100 k romp in the downstairs rooms where once again I unloaded in a cute girls mouth while her pussy was shoved in my face for 69.

Casas. Tantra spa. Honestly you can't go wrong with this place. I was there almost every day of my 5 day trip. There were usually 8-12 girls. All doable. All body types. All looking in their early 20's. Every girl I was with was compliant and did everything I wanted. The cost for 30 minutes was 50 k and I just did all the extras for an additional 100 k. The girls don't expect a tip as I actually think all the extras cost 80 k and they just say 100 k so that a tip is built in for them. All will let you DFK, DATY and cum on tits or mouth. So just for ease of use it was great. There's a mall nearby (Avenida Chile mall) perfect to freshen back up afterwards in the little small food court area.

Tips:

1) Don't go into the clubs of Santa Fe with large bills. The mesero will literally take forever trying to find you change if you only buy 1 poker beer and pay for it with a 50 k (or worse will just disappear). Head to oxxo, etc and buy something small to get change and plan to pay for drinks with either 10 or 20 k bills.

2) screw the transmillenio unless you take steps to not be a victim of pickpocketing. Despite the few reports of stabbings and / or muggings on here, I have been to Bogota as a solo white male traveller 5 or 6 times now. I have not had a problem however I have had a problem with pickpockets and once again some douche tried to pickpocket me while getting into a crowded bus. Honestly, uber and didi are not that much more than the bus and just easier so I just recommend doing that unless you want to stay as cheap as possible. Just don't have stuff in your pockets. The people that do this often work in groups and they're good.

Restaurant ideas: don't listen to the people that say Bogota doesn't have good food. There's loads of good food. If it's your first time then try a visit to La Perseverancia Market for lunch or a late breakfast. Compania Casa Del Rey is close enough to Santa Fe and has some nice options. Pastelera Florida while not the best is easy and good. Those are 3 places near or around the Hotel Ibis worthwhile to check out. There are loads more. Visit some good coffee places as well.

And yes, I'll be back again for a 7th time (or is it the 6th?? I've lost track).

[Gabacho]

The pleasure of seeing immediately how much money will be detracted from your account costs some 10%. Is it worth?

Incidentally, any decent card allows you to see online the amounts paid or just blocked.

All he has to do is check his bank or brokerage app to see what his available balance was before and after the ATM withdrawal. How the hell are people traveling oversees but yet don't know how to check how much they were charged at an ATM?

[TomJackin]

OK, Soooh how many did you fuck? You can only fuck one at a time.

He was giving us an update. Do you have any updates?

Thank you Woodman!

[HumbleHal]

Troya was good about 10+ girls 3-5 pretty hot. Atonis was OK 5-6 girls. Venus was better 6-8 girls but 3-5 were Hott-.

I love Venus because there are often new hotties-- The stripper was so hot like 7-8+.

It looked like Paisa and Fiebre were happening but did not go. Also Loto and Ferco were open.

We went back out on street about 12:30 and ran into 3 Hot 20 yr old Venezolanas. These girls were Nice!! Like 7-7+ all petite and tight-- The guy I was with took all 3 into a hotel they let him have the room for 50 k and he paid them 60 mil each and was in there about 40-50 min. I don't have the details but he had fun.

OK, Soooh how many did you fuck? You can only fuck one at a time.

[RMundi000]

I agree with MaddTraveler on nearly all points. I think the point you are getting at is frugal doesn't mean cheap -- another way of "stay in your lane" perhaps. It's a very different experience in SF vs a GF or GFE including dinner, drinks and TLN elsewhere. You can use the car analogy sure, but I think the restaurant analogy is better. There are all kinds of ways to eat in Colombia, from things you can buy on the street to world class dining. While it is true you can get an experience that is a very good or very poor value, overall it is a very lot less expensive than US or Europe if you are trying to compare like for like. It is equally true WG and restaurants.

Some people only want to eat at some only want local street food, McDonalds (which exists in Locombia), some want only Michelin level. And some are like me that want and can afford a variety.

I do highly encourage all visitors to try the restaurant scene in BOG and, if you are into the hobby, as a second date I encourage extending a TLN to include dinner and drinks before. If pro or semipro, negotiate the TLN rate first and then propose starting earlier but including dinner and a drink.

I do have a little quibble with this:

Zona G is NOT the most expensive area of the city.

Yes, Zona G does have a few of the most expensive restaurants in the city: LEO, El Chato, Cielo. But there many others in Zona G not at that level of cost and quality. For me the most expensive area of the city for a date of any type is Zona T (around CC Andino and CC Atlantis). In Zona T there are some good restaurants for sure, but there are also a few which for me aren't high value for money -- specifically Andres Carne de Res and anything inside Andino). In addition to the restaurants, there is also the shopping. Taking a date or WG there is a big mistake as you are going to waste time, money or both. Also, for non pro you need to know what they will appreciate and be comfortable with. I've seen some WGs become really intimidated by fancy restaurants, come dressed inappropriately, or intentionally order the most expensive thing on the menu just because they could. I generally don't go to a good restaurant until 2nd meeting.

Nonpro tip: use a trip to Zona T or any big CC as a litmus test early in a relationship. Go to a Crepes or Wok in any big CC and see how much time they burn in stores just looking, or how many things they want you to buy for them. That will often foreshadow things to come. Atlantis, Unicentro, Grand Estacion, Plaza Central are all better for that test than Andino.

Now I am hungry.

I am going to be in town for a short trip later this month. Are there any must try restaurants you would recommend? I am open to anything from 3 Michelin star to street food.

[JustNow]

I was with a friend last night 11-8 -- about 11:30.

Streets-- It was pretty dead especially the South stroll --North stroll was ok-- You could find a nice girl but was quiet.

Troya was good about 10+ girls 3-5 pretty hot. Atonis was OK 5-6 girls. Venus was better 6-8 girls but 3-5 were Hott-.

I love Venus because there are often new hotties-- The stripper was so hot like 7-8+.

It looked like Paisa and Fiebre were happening but did not go. Also Loto and Ferco were open.

We went back out on street about 12:30 and ran into 3 Hot 20 yr old Venezolanas. These girls were Nice!! Like 7-7+ all petite and tight-- The guy I was with took all 3 into a hotel they let him have the room for 50 k and he paid them 60 mil each and was in there about 40-50 min. I don't have the details but he had fun.

Hi Woodman,

I will be in Bogota from Dec 6-8. Need your help. Looks like your inbox is full. Please message me.

[Mr Enternational]

Had my Schwab Investor checking since they launched it in 2022, and was primarily offered if you had an actual brokerage / investor account which I have also. So that may make a difference.

Maybe you mean they launched it in 2002. I have had mine at least 10 years, when HSBC started going haywire.

[Gabacho]

Prob cause Schwab has different cards, or diff rates and fees based on when you signed up. Had my Schwab Investor checking since they launched it in 2022, and was primarily offered if you had an actual brokerage / investor account which I have also. So that may make a difference.

No foreign transaction fees themselves, and they reimburse me 100% of ATM fees Worldwide.

Fidelity also offers 100% reimbursement of ATM fees worldwide. I've saved like $600 usd so far from using them. They reimbursed all my ATM fees in Thailand and Philippines. I found out that in Indonesia there are no ATM fees here at all. It's like how Colombia used to be, like every ATM here is a Pre-2023 Davivienda LOL. Everything super cheap too. It's like early 2000's Colombia prices and I won't even mention the super megabrothel called Classic that I discovered. But if you guys are interested hop over to the Jakarta thread to read my reports there.

Gabacho.

[MaddTraveler]

What is this 50% rebate you're talking about? I've always heard here that Schwab reimbursed ATM fees fully.

Prob cause Schwab has different cards, or diff rates and fees based on when you signed up. Had my Schwab Investor checking since they launched it in 2022, and was primarily offered if you had an actual brokerage / investor account which I have also. So that may make a difference.

No foreign transaction fees themselves, and they reimburse me 100% of ATM fees Worldwide.