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[Explorer8939]

https://thepattayanews.com/2024/12/1...-and-drug-use/

This is a news item for those who don't know what bargirls in Pattaya do when they get off work. The context is that there is a surplus of young women in Pattaya, so young Thai men are a scarce and valuable commodity. So, bargirls often go to host bars like these when their bars close, where they buy drinks for young Thai men, and go home with them after business hours (usually 7 am).

In the news story, 4 bars were raided, but there are dozens in Pattaya. When the story mentions "customers", they are referring to women.

Don't get me started on tomboy bars.

My point is that there are not many horny bargirls. Even after a Soi 6 girls fucks a handful of customers, she will take her money to a host bar after work and blow it on a Thai man.

[Mr Enternational]

And you didn't count all the expenses you'll going to have during these 10 years on top of the initial 500000 you said you were planning to spend to refurbish the place.

My buddy's association fee is $2000 per year, which is more than my rent.

[Nyezhov]

Are you saying "age appropriate" women are not eager sex partners in Thailand? That issue is a critical so intel is most welcome.

I can, and am willing to, provide financially for decent living & travel, but am seeking an English speaking, compliant & sex positive GF with excellent & eager oral skills, committed to making life comfortable for us as a homemaker. NOT seeking a tute, ex bar girl. I'm a well dressed average looking gentleman, never abusive or unkind, but am firm on keeping to agreements. I'm working with SKI money (Spending Kids Inheritance) so can afford high end. But I have been around. I have seen & am wary.

Having just been widowed it will be awhile before I"m ready but I will be ready within 12 months. Your help is truly appreciated.

My problem with girlfriends is a shallow one. I'm almost 70 and will not, under any circumstances, blast my loathsome spew of reproduction into any girl older than 30, and she better look younger. I'm not going to live with someone that young tho.

So I shall, *sobsob* remain, alone.

[Explorer8939]

The discussion about buying a condo as a rental investment is theoretical, since pitfalls of that business are many.

I bought a condo in Pattaya as a place to live, nothing more.

[Explorer8939]

Are you saying "age appropriate" women are not eager sex partners in Thailand? That issue is a critical so intel is most welcome.

I can, and am willing to, provide financially for decent living & travel, but am seeking an English speaking, compliant & sex positive GF with excellent & eager oral skills, committed to making life comfortable for us as a homemaker. NOT seeking a tute, ex bar girl. I'm a well dressed average looking gentleman, never abusive or unkind, but am firm on keeping to agreements. I'm working with SKI money (Spending Kids Inheritance) so can afford high end. But I have been around. I have seen & am wary.

Having just been widowed it will be awhile before I"m ready but I will be ready within 12 months. Your help is truly appreciated.

You really don't know what you are getting into.

If you ever go to the Darkside in east Pattaya, the number of bars there is striking, given that tourists never go there unless they are lost. So why so many bars, if only ExPats are potential customers? Because so many lonely guys come to Thailand to find a wife or GF, run into a lady who provides amazing sex, settle down into a committed relationship, and then the Thai lady announces she cannot have sex anymore. So, the lonely guy goes to a local bar and strikes up a relationship with a bargirl. Good for the wife / GF, since when he is gone, she can play with her Thai man.

It's a trap!

[TConor]

That's one way to look at it.

If you're thinking that your unit will be rent every month for 10 years, I'd rather call this wishful thinking. And you didn't count all the expenses you'll going to have during these 10 years on top of the initial 500000 you said you were planning to spend to refurbish the place.

In any case, nobody is giving you an advice as nobody has any information on your situation.

People are telling you to be cautious with these kind of investment, and what they are saying does not sound silly.

People looking for a place to stay on long term in Pattaya can easily find a good place for under 8000 baht (all included), which is half the price you used in your explanation.

Besides, if you were really cashing in as much as you're saying, you wouldn't be looking for such investments. Just saying.

You have not factored in your Thai taxes, and boy, will you have a paper trail with having to report renters' information to immigration. You'the be paying at least 25% not counting any money brought over. And maintenance? Of course, for 10 years that would be a tidy sum.

[PilotPete]

Age appropriate GF will be food only. Hahaha. Hahaha.

Are you saying "age appropriate" women are not eager sex partners in Thailand? That issue is a critical so intel is most welcome.

I can, and am willing to, provide financially for decent living & travel, but am seeking an English speaking, compliant & sex positive GF with excellent & eager oral skills, committed to making life comfortable for us as a homemaker. NOT seeking a tute, ex bar girl. I'm a well dressed average looking gentleman, never abusive or unkind, but am firm on keeping to agreements. I'm working with SKI money (Spending Kids Inheritance) so can afford high end. But I have been around. I have seen & am wary.

Having just been widowed it will be awhile before I"m ready but I will be ready within 12 months. Your help is truly appreciated.

[Paolo99]

You have proffered nothing to indicate it was a bad investment. You spoke out of turn without having any of the details. Tell me how much time do you spend in Pattaya? Of that how much time to you take out of your International Tricking time to spend looking in the rental and purchase markets. Can you give me a specific example? If you cannot, then read following and learn.

The tools need to calculate if a real estate purchase is a good deal are learned in elementary school. It is basic arithmetic. The concept I use is: Cash on Cash return. If you are not familiar with it google it.

1,900,000 THB /120 month = 16,000 THB / month (rounded up).

If you can rent the unit for 16,000 THB / month that is a 10.1% Cash on Cash return. How much are you getting from a Treasury Bill these days?

After 120 months the rental income will have returned all your invested capital in the unit and from that point on your return is infinite because you have zero invested in it. We haven't even factored in potential capital appreciation of the 10 years it takes to break even cash wise.

The unit in question was 100 m2 double unit with two full bathrooms that could be rented as is. 10th Floor. Good view out over Soi Bon Cock. 16,000 THB of rent a month in the area and building I looked would have been stretching it. But given the size and uniqueness of there might have been a lot of appeal to a Farang in the right mindset.

That's one way to look at it.

If you're thinking that your unit will be rent every month for 10 years, I'd rather call this wishful thinking. And you didn't count all the expenses you'll going to have during these 10 years on top of the initial 500000 you said you were planning to spend to refurbish the place.

In any case, nobody is giving you an advice as nobody has any information on your situation.

People are telling you to be cautious with these kind of investment, and what they are saying does not sound silly.

People looking for a place to stay on long term in Pattaya can easily find a good place for under 8000 baht (all included), which is half the price you used in your explanation.

Besides, if you were really cashing in as much as you're saying, you wouldn't be looking for such investments. Just saying.

[Mr Enternational]

Buying a condo is not simple like buying shoes. Be careful. It's not the goldmine you think it is.

Especially if they come along and build something else right in front of your view. Or like in my buddy's case, a Russian disco moves in next door. Then you can read about folks in houses whose neighbors have dogs that bark all night.

[SubCmdr]

As Mr. E said finding a girlfriend will not be hard.

I make it a point to pay much attention to anything he says.

I am a 69 year old American and I had no problem finding a girlfriend. I would suggest looking in places like Hua Hin or similar places. Places with high tourist traffic are where you are more likely to find an English speaking girlfriend. I would suggest trying out different places a week or too at a time. Make friends with expats and their wives and girlfriends can introduce you to prospects.

I would like to you review the relationship advice that I have received in these threads and tell me if any of it has been relevant in your experiences.

A word of caution, avoid expats who sit in bars all day.

If you don't sit in bar with them that is pretty easy todo. I find that the expats from my country of origin are mostly old, fat, ugly, dress poorly and have bad attitudes. Many of them post in these threads. I don't have to name names cause they are easy to identify.

The golf course is a good way to make friends.

Yep, I've heard about the caddies. LOL!

Sorry, your ex-bargirl is different. Your posts about common experiences in Pattaya are a bit comical, since you act as if they are special.

Even "civvie" women in Pattaya often go with customers, either by working a shift on Beach Road or just nabbing a customer at their shop. One reason why Pattaya is monger heaven.

If you found out your kik had a Thai man, you would have a sad. You are doing what many Farangs do in Pattaya. Find a bargirl who is "different". Good luck with that.

Stub after you get settled in you will find many kiks are ex-bar girls. She probably got kicked out for being too ugly and not making any money. Or for stealing from customers. If not that she's an ex-Beach Road girl which you are so attracted to.

When deported your three acquaintances from this board won't be able to help you. The manager at the GC club will finish your bottle with your kik before he takes her upstairs, licks her pussy, and bangs the hell out of her.

LOL, boy, I took you off ignore when I found out you had a hooker girlfriend. She's different. Yeah, she was gobbling spooge from random dudes for 10 baht a pecker behind the palm tree near the sewer at the coconut bar, but it's not like that with me. We have a deep connection.

I guess by putting MessBoy on ignore, I miss the good stuff and thanks for alerting me that he has a "gik" in Pattaya, Now he has sunk to the level of defending some Thai hookers honour.

Anyway, its amazing to me that the international trick, the world famous big black dick (translation: I'm sad, weak, uneducated, obnoxious and a biatch so I will use racist tropes about black mens penii to make you think I am a man) has fallen in love with a GILF from the BJ bars or as is highly likely, a hag from Beach Road who was found one time unconscious on her face with a rubber hanging out of her ass and a fistfull of rupees. Love is in the air.

But what's he going to do when he continues his International Trick Lifestyle and leaves his beloved? Send her $$ while she she peddles her ass to all and sundry at her bargain rate? Has he, the worlds greatest professional trick fallen in love?

How about it you two bit uneducated ghetto thug. Going to defend the honour of your girl? Call me out? Tell me to come visit you at some bar in Pattaya? You going to be there when we show up, or are you just the chickensh*t little biatch we all know you are.

Now ask yourself again, are these the people you wish to seek relationship advice from? It should be noted that I have not asked for Relationship Advice, Tax Advice, nor Financial Advice from anyone in these forums.

Why? Cause I know how to stack my flow! Fuck my ***** (no, she is not sitting on my face)! And seek out competent tax advice!.

[Gaijin Gigolo]

I am a financially fortunate, 70 yo, Caucasian American Widower, who only speaks English. The dream is to find a GF's where the relationship is good on both sides of a closed door. Intelligent, NSA & English speakers are ideal. I don't expect this to be inexpensive. How / Where to find? All intel is most welcome.

You won't have any trouble finding your choice of lovely companions. And you don't need to go to Hua Hin, as someone else suggested. If you're not in country yet, or even if you are, you can start by talking to the ladies on thaiflirting.com and thaifriendly.com . Also, there are many groups on Facebook that exist solely for the purpose of pairing up Thai ladies with Western gentlemen. Good luck!

[Explorer8939]

The Chinese buyer bought the condo at a discount. You would have probably had to pay more. This is even more proof that Koreans (and Chinese) are favored over Westerners. I wouldn't be surprised if the real estate agent was female and urged the seller to accept the Chinese buyer's bid due to her preference of Koreans and Chinese. Buying a condo is not simple like buying shoes. Be careful. It's not the goldmine you think it is.

Thai people are generally not fond of Chinese.

Japanese and Koreans are a different story.

[Explorer8939]

There will be enough to make things interesting.

Although there is a law I seriously like most things anyone is checking! Condos must be 51/49 majority owned by Thais. In theory even Chinese, Korean can only buy into foreign ownership 49, I cannot confirm whether either party selling aren't willing to provide a discount from my experience.

In the Bang Na area Ive been in buildings that seem it is all owned by Chinese, even designs looks Chinese and are run like Hotels.

That is the law, but anyone with money can get around it.

When a condo is built, typically 51% of the units are owned by a Thai company. The rest are sold to foreigners.

It's common for the 51% of the units to remain unfinished, unless a Thai citizen buys one. That's one of the reason you see so many empty condo buildings at night.

[UglyAzzMan]

If you are looking for a girlfriend it will not be expensive. If you are looking for a hooker to be your girlfriend, it will be expensive. Where to find? Anywhere that there are people. Just start a conversation.

Age appropriate GF will be food only. Hahaha. Hahaha.

[AggieDad1]

There will be enough to make things interesting.

Although there is a law I seriously like most things anyone is checking! Condos must be 51/49 majority owned by Thais. In theory even Chinese, Korean can only buy into foreign ownership 49, I cannot confirm whether either party selling aren't willing to provide a discount from my experience.

In the Bang Na area Ive been in buildings that seem it is all owned by Chinese, even designs looks Chinese and are run like Hotels.

Saw this video recently.

https://youtu.be/si0abvTL0-U

Apparently Thai companies have been fronting for Chinese, probably Koreans too.