Bangkok Reports

[Mogwai]

Last night I, through no fault of my own, ended up having two girls coming, one after the other. One at 00:30 (a repeat with Miss 172 cm who I posted a photo of earlier), and the other one, my first african girl. A 22 year old who arrived at 01:30, and who looked so hooish, with a neon-green dress and high heels, that I felt slightly embarrassed as she stalked past the security guards and towards me. What would my mother think?

They say that men like women who look like their mother, so I think she would be thrilled LOL.

[Werqweq]

Its bad enough when that busty hardbody tosses her tits on the chair with her bra, I really do not favour selecting my smash on line.

I don't know why, but I've become too lazy to go out in the evening, wandering from place to place looking. I will drop by a place or two on the way to / from my other daily activities (gym, dinner), but in the evening I much prefer they come to me.

In fact, one just left. Her photo looked really good. Asked her to send a selfie no filter. Selfie looked not really good, but still good. Showed up wearing a mask, which is a pretty big red flag these days, but thought maybe the gal was shy. Asked her to take off the mask while going up in the elevator, after the other passengers had exited. Didn't look like anyone I'd like to fuck. Showed her the photo and said she did not look like photo. She blah-blah-blah and demanded 1000 to go. Told her to fuck off and took her down in the elevator.

Next time I'll verify and abort the ordeal downstairs before going up in the elevator with her. Initially wanted to do that when I saw the mask, but so many people milling around I felt a bit shy. Next time though.

Only reason I can think of for why these disgusting women are pulling this shit is that there are guys who pay them "enough" to leave, after figuring out they are about to get scammed, making it worth it for them. If nobody were paying them, they'd stop that shit soon enough. Maybe guys think throwing 500 baht at them is worth it to avoid a spectacle, but that's more than enough money to make it worthwhile for them to continue doing this annoying shit.

On a more positive note, my Thai massage earlier today ended better. After sucking my dick till completion, she for some reason continued sucking. Last night I, through no fault of my own, ended up having two girls coming, one after the other. One at 00:30 (a repeat with Miss 172 cm who I posted a photo of earlier), and the other one, my first african girl. A 22 year old who arrived at 01:30, and who looked so hooish, with a neon-green dress and high heels, that I felt slightly embarrassed as she stalked past the security guards and towards me. What would my mother think?

She said it was her third day in Thailand, from Kenya, and was a good fuck with a pleasant enough personality. Anyway, as the massage woman today, a plump woman around 30, chosen for her cute face and pleasant demeanor, was continuing sucking my dick, I pondered. Could it be my balls were so empty from last night's double course that it was possible she had not noticed I was done? Could it be so? No, surely not, but for some reason she was still sucking my dick.

I was laying there thinking, "why is she still sucking my dick, and what happened to my semen?" After she had continued sucking for a few minutes more, and my brain had failed to come up with any good answer as to why, I, and may god forgive me, in the end I had to stop her, as I'm a bit sensitive after finishing. Apparently she also swallowed my little gift, whatever there was, which is not a frequent occurrence for me with p4p girls.
I then paid her the agreed 1000, plus an extra 100 as tip for the massage when exiting downstairs.

Shop was on soi 22 should anyone care. One of the 3-4 shops directly after the Marriot hotel, though I don't remember the name. As far as I am concerned, this, and to a much lesser extent soi 33, are the only sois on Sukhumvit where you can with some probability find decent looking girls / woman in some regular massage shops sitting outside, so you can see and choose. Have to walk the whole stretch up and back sometimes though.

Miss Africa:

[Werqweq]

I've been suggested this place for this very reason. Do they let you take vids?

There's no place that advertises "video included". You have to ask the woman and offer her whatever extra she wants for it.

[Nyezhov]

And here a prime example of the opposite, generated some minutes ago. Good luck I've started to request a selfie without filter before confirming the booking.

Its bad enough when that busty hardbody tosses her tits on the chair with her bra, I really do not favour selecting my smash on line.

[Mogwai]

How about "I give you tip; no condom." Or accept the girl's position on barebacking and go with the flow. For example, I never negotiate Bareback anywhere and yet approximately 25% of my Thai hooker pickups (Go Go girls and FL's) leads to BBFS on the 1st night with the percentages going up significantly on repeat visits. This is my experience in LOS for over 20 years. If you don't like these stats try a different country. As I am sure you know, Thailand has neighbors where the bareback percentages are much higher.

My holidays are usually only two weeks, occasionally three, so I can only fuck a limited amount of girls, with only a few repeats (if any). If I would go with the flow and get the same results as you do, it would mean I do not get BBFS with every girl, every time. And that is unacceptable, because I simply hate condoms and cannot keep it up and cum when I use them. So that's why I always negotiate BBFS beforehand.
In countries like Cambodia, Laos, and the Philippines, I sometimes take the risk and do not negotiate it beforehand. But I haven't been there for a long time.

[Mr Enternational]

I don't venture to Pattaya, but I thought the rate there was still 1000? Would have to check some of Mr. E's recent reports to verify what the baseline is.

Many here in Bangkok have quoted me 2,000 or even 3,000 the past week (one even asked for 8,000 some days ago), but most come down to 1500 quickly enough, though not all.

There is no baseline. Some guys like XXL will hit a girl up and immediately offer 2000. Some guys will ask how much and consider that some type of going rate. Like you, I will ask them how much and talk them down. In Pattaya I pay 1200 for overnight. I have things to do during the day, but before bed around 10 pm I may get a chick to come stay over until I am ready to leave at 8 or 9 in the morning. I rarely do ST, but I do not mind giving them 1000 for ST the times that I do.

[Mr Enternational]

And here a prime example of the opposite, generated some minutes ago. Good luck I've started to request a selfie without filter before confirming the booking.

That is not even the same person.

[Sma202]

I liked WoodBar. As poster says top notch BJ. I had two and both were top five stuff. To my aesthetic there are pretty girls there. Or they have a few years but were pretty. There are 800 girls and 1000 girls. I didn't see that much visual difference and took a 1000 girl. I'm going to guess the 1000's have better skills? Dunno but it was fabulous.

I suggest you don't go straight for optics. That's not what you are there for. Pick a girl who is cute but maybe has a few extra pounds or extra years. You won't be sorry. Top world BJ experience and I've had a few.

I've been suggested this place for this very reason. Do they let you take vids?

[HorseTrader]

How about "I give you tip; no condom." Or accept the girl's position on barebacking and go with the flow.

Yea, offering tip is my first approach, and it often works. Earlier this month I was at Pink-X in Chiang Mai and offered what I thought was a big tip, but she refused. She said she sometimes has Korean and Japanese men offer her 15,000 baht for no condom. I can be a big tipper, but I won't go that high.

Going with the flow can end in a great BBFSCIP session or it can end in frustration for me. For about 3 years I have been unable to to finish with a condom.

Prior to 2018 I always used condom. Prior to 2022 I would go with the flow. On 2nd or 3rd session, they all turned into BBFSCIP. After about 2022 I have negotiated BBFSCIP.

[HorseTrader]

And here a prime example of the opposite, generated some minutes ago. Good luck I've started to request a selfie without filter before confirming the booking.

555. We've all had a few of those.

I don't request a selfie, but I often require a 1-minute video chat before booking a ThaiFriendly girl.

[Werqweq]

One of the rare cases of somebody looking better in real-life. I'll be repeating.

And here a prime example of the opposite, generated some minutes ago. Good luck I've started to request a selfie without filter before confirming the booking.

[Axel Heyst]

If somebody has the magic words to change a girl from "must use condom" to "no condom OK", I'd like to hear those words.

How about "I give you tip; no condom." Or accept the girl's position on barebacking and go with the flow. For example, I never negotiate Bareback anywhere and yet approximately 25% of my Thai hooker pickups (Go Go girls and FL's) leads to BBFS on the 1st night with the percentages going up significantly on repeat visits. This is my experience in LOS for over 20 years. If you don't like these stats try a different country. As I am sure you know, Thailand has neighbors where the bareback percentages are much higher.

[Thai Friend]

Good first time report. So did you pay your TF friend the new rate you so nicely "educated her about" or get a repeat discount and let her raise prices on future mongers? Asking for a friend Don't sweat the bareback. BBFS is the new BBBJ. All the cool kids are doing it.

I tipped her an extra 1000 for a total of 2500. I do come from a "you got to tip for anything and everything" culture. You can easily guess which country).

[BionicMan]

Your first time in Thailand, and you feel the need to educate local hookers on what they should charge? I doubt most of us pay more than 1500 for TF-girls in Bangkok, and no tip expected.

Good and informative report otherwise.

By the tone of happiness he reported, probably the "education course" was: you are so good and should ask more than 1500. That's for the MILF on the streets. Here's another 1000 as you are worth it.

Followed by a trip to the gold shop on the third encounter, LOL.

[EihTooms]

Getting BBFSCIP
I'm same as you in that respect. Sometimes they ask why I want BB and I just tell them "I am old and cannot do sex with a condom," which seems to be the most successful words that I've found so far. Sometimes I tell them their price is very high and it must be no condom. Before agreeing, I always make it clear that it is "sex no condom, finish inside. " Sometimes I carry a picture of my latest STD-free test results. I also explain that "I am sterile" (they don't understand the word vasectomy).

About 3 weeks ago I did enough talking to turn a beautiful, young girl from "must use condom" to "no condom OK", but she was still reluctant. She did all the agreed services in the room, but she was a lousy partner. I recommend against going to the room if she seems reluctant, find somebody else.

If somebody has the magic words to change a girl from "must use condom" to "no condom OK", I'd like to hear those words.

Thanks for clarifying with "CIP" and "finish inside" in this discussion. That is the part many omit when they report whether or not the experience was "BB", "bareback" or "BBFS".

"BB", "bareback" and "BBFS" without specifying "CIP" or "finish inside" with the girl or in a report in my mind means pulling out and finishing with a hand job or, worse, masturbation.

I evolved into including those key words "CIP" and "finish inside" over the years as well.

I can't say I know any magic words that turn an attractive, adamantly "must use condom" girl into a "no condom ok" girl. And I have explained that I am "sterile" and can show a recent negative HIV and other STD blood test result document as well. Even offering significantly more money rarely if ever changes the rule with a truly hot girl who is not desperate for money and has plenty of Condom Everything customers lined up willing to pay her first quote.

But I do have a method that used to work fairly often back when I was racking up a half dozen new girl sessions per week:

If the girl was adamant about "No boom boom without condom" in the bar I would agree to pay her first quote or very close to it for BBBJCIM but at that price it must include Swallowing all my cum at the finish. Might as well agree to it.

A surprising number of hot bargirls did agree to that, probably on the assumption that they could just fake a Swallow at the BBBJCIM finish and discretely spit it out in a tissue or sink. And, hey, then they're getting 2,500 baht for a simple BBBJCIM.

However, once in the room and they see I am not a filthy slob or an axe murderer, their stance softens, I remind them the CIM finish must include Swallowing all my cum, right?

That is when most of those hot girls would change their mind and tell me "boom boom no condom ok". It is at that point that given the choice between actually putting in more effort to give a BBBJCIM and especially being expected to Swallow all the cum, perhaps the first time some of those hot girls ever got that close to it, vs an ordinary, lazy BBBFCIP with a clean customer they feel comfortable with, the ordinary lazy BBFSCIP won the day.

Which I generally assumed it would back when I switched the negotiation from BBFSCIP to BBBJCIMSwallow in the bar.