Pattaya Reports

[Explorer8939]

Yeah, I'm pretty sure if someone lived a couple of months with a hooker, most would start feeling somewhat less transactional about things. As it is, I've yet to pay anyone even for longtime, so it's rather unlikely to happen with me, but I can understand.

In all the sponsorship cases I've known, the guy believed, or at least pretended to believe, the girl was not banging others. One western guy had the girl move into another apartment (for which he paid the rent), so she could stay in the same building as some other girl he knew and who could "keep an eye" on his girl, while attending some make-up / cosmetics course he was paying for, and sending her 50,000 a month (this was up north, 10+ years ago, so it was a pretty good sum). I don't know wtf he was smoking as the other girl was working bar. His girl did indeed stop hooking afaik, though I met her at a regular disco one evening and from thereon out were banging her twice a week while her sponsor was away. Even had her repeat the std test after he left so I could keep banging her without a condom. In the end she ended the relationship with the sponsor because "she did not like him so much", even though it meant losing the 50 k a month + apartment rent. Before that she had been sponsored by some Japanese dude who had her stay at some high-end condo far away from the city centre, and which she also ended for similar reasons I think.

Another girl had her sponsor ring her while I had my dick in her mouth. He too believed she was not banging others, and I had to listen to a teary eyed story about how he was now working an extra job, shoveling snow at night, in order to be able to send her the monthly "salary"..

This is typical. In Thailand, ladies want to give money to their boyfriend, and take money from customers.

If you are confused about what your bargirl thinks about you, just follow the money.

[Rocko20]

How about for the sponsorship thingy, what are the grey cells doing in those guys heads when sending 10's or 100's of kbahts a month for the hookers that others keep fucking while they are out of the country? That is even more amazing behaviour to me. Not that I am complaining as I can enjoy the benefits locally.

Very simple. These people believe they can buy the loyalty and monogamy of a bar girl or sex worker, or better yet, prevent her from working at the bar or freelancing altogether by paying her with their supplemental income.

As we all know, that's a disaster waiting to happen. The first argument you get in, she's going right back to sex work while the dumb sponsor still sends her money to not engage in sex work.

We are talking about hookers here, not "some girl we liked. " But when paying a chick for sex, something goes off in some guys' heads saying he should shower her with unsolicited gifts in addition to paying the required fee for sex? Make that make sense.

If pornstars, strippers, and onlyfans “models” can find husbands and sponsor and boyfriends, why can’t sex workers? Content creators literally put a link in their bio to their amazon wishlist for random strangers to buy them stuff.

Why? Because beautiful women (in the eyes of those who think they need gifts), regardless of what they do or did for a living, tend to get shit. Thats just the way the world works. Men buy shit for women they believe look good.

We don’t have to fully understand it, but the fact that onlyfans “models” are making millions is all the evidence we need to know that its true.

[Werqweq]

So "feeling less transactional" after having spent time with a hooker who would have left the day he'd have told her he don't want to pay her to stay longer is the explanation. Okay. There must be some longer psychological story for this. Wonder how that fits with the common economic theories.

How about for the sponsorship thingy, what are the grey cells doing in those guys heads when sending 10's or 100's of kbahts a month for the hookers that others keep fucking while they are out of the country? That is even more amazing behaviour to me. Not that I am complaining as I can enjoy the benefits locally.

Yeah, I'm pretty sure if someone lived a couple of months with a hooker, most would start feeling somewhat less transactional about things. As it is, I've yet to pay anyone even for longtime, so it's rather unlikely to happen with me, but I can understand.

In all the sponsorship cases I've known, the guy believed, or at least pretended to believe, the girl was not banging others. One western guy had the girl move into another apartment (for which he paid the rent), so she could stay in the same building as some other girl he knew and who could "keep an eye" on his girl, while attending some make-up / cosmetics course he was paying for, and sending her 50,000 a month (this was up north, 10+ years ago, so it was a pretty good sum). I don't know wtf he was smoking as the other girl was working bar. His girl did indeed stop hooking afaik, though I met her at a regular disco one evening and from thereon out were banging her twice a week while her sponsor was away. Even had her repeat the std test after he left so I could keep banging her without a condom. In the end she ended the relationship with the sponsor because "she did not like him so much", even though it meant losing the 50 k a month + apartment rent. Before that she had been sponsored by some Japanese dude who had her stay at some high-end condo far away from the city centre, and which she also ended for similar reasons I think.

Another girl had her sponsor ring her while I had my dick in her mouth. He too believed she was not banging others, and I had to listen to a teary eyed story about how he was now working an extra job, shoveling snow at night, in order to be able to send her the monthly "salary". The girl was smiling and laughing at me while telling him that if he could not send her the salary it meant he did not really love her, and she would have to go with other men so she could send money to her parents (rather than get a normal job and send money to her parents). One of the few times I become too disgusted with a girl to want to fuck her, so quietly got dressed and left her room. Considered saying something aloud to the poor sucker on the phone, who was still proclaiming his love, before leaving, but I didn't want to keep having to watch my back for some crazy bar girl.

[Turgid]

I've occasionally been called "cheap Charlie" for refusal to buy her "sister" a drink or refusal to ring the bell. When I find a girl I like, I'll bar fine her and maybe pay more than necessary. I often tip mamasan if she has a good group of girls........

You are certainly not a cheap charlie.

[Explorer8939]

You are right but its in mens behavior to support women when sex is offered. I belive it comes from human prehistory.

What does it take to shower and fuck on soi 6? Is it really 60 min?

Koreans are not richer than other countries with similiar economies. They simply don't care about money and have a cheap flight. Also bear in minfd that Korea is on of the most indebted countries in the world. They have many cases each year of suicide becuase of debt. It would not surpirse me if soem of the koreans in Pattaya have loaned money to spend big in Pattaya to impress on thier friends. Ofc not all.

Many Koreans are classic 2 week millionaires. They use all their savings during their time in Pattaya, and try to impress their friends by buying dozens of drinks for Soi 6 ladies. Because their friends know their wives, the Koreans are reluctant to go to the room with a lady, its "drinks only".

Having said that, there is at least one Korean bar on Third Road where Koreans go alone, and do barfine ladies. These are mostly guys who are in Pattaya longer than 2 weeks, and they often set up a lady as a Mia Noi for the time they are in Pattaya. But the behavior of those Koreans is different than the two week millionaires, they aren't showing off as much.

[Mr Enternational]

Starbucks staff is not staying and sleeping with you for two months though, are they? They're someone you see and say hello to for a minute every morning.

No. Neither are they serving you your coffee because they really like you. They are doing it because they are getting paid for it. Same as the hooker. But for the cash, neither would be servicing you. But the one taking cash for giving you a blow job deserves more special treatment than the one taking cash for serving your coffee or doing any other service you are paying for?

[KrumeLurer]

We are talking about hookers here, not "some girl we liked. " I spent 2 months going to Starbucks for coffee every morning, yet nothing inside of me ever said I should buy the cashier a new laptop. But when paying a chick for sex, something goes off in some guys' heads saying he should shower her with unsolicited gifts in addition to paying the required fee for sex? Make that make sense.

You are right but its in mens behavior to support women when sex is offered. I belive it comes from human prehistory.

It's 1 hour, why do you talk about 30 minute?

What does it take to shower and fuck on soi 6? Is it really 60 min?

People with real money have enough sense not to brag about it. Just look at the Korean men in the clubs. Many of them gladly pay higher prices but you won't see them bragging about it. They just pay it and enjoy themselves. And the girls prefer them to even those dumb enough to try to outspend them. People that brag about things like their money, how much they spend in a club, or their dick size have temporarily escaped poverty and are on their way back to it.

Koreans are not richer than other countries with similiar economies. They simply don't care about money and have a cheap flight. Also bear in minfd that Korea is on of the most indebted countries in the world. They have many cases each year of suicide becuase of debt. It would not surpirse me if soem of the koreans in Pattaya have loaned money to spend big in Pattaya to impress on thier friends. Ofc not all.

[EihTooms]

So "feeling less transactional" after having spent time with a hooker who would have left the day he'd have told her he don't want to pay her to stay longer is the explanation. Okay. There must be some longer psychological story for this. Wonder how that fits with the common economic theories.

How about for the sponsorship thingy, what are the grey cells doing in those guys heads when sending 10's or 100's of kbahts a month for the hookers that others keep fucking while they are out of the country? That is even more amazing behaviour to me. Not that I am complaining as I can enjoy the benefits locally.

Am I the only one who had a favorite frequent repeat hottie who did find an old USA dude sponsor who only comes to Thailand 1-2 weeks every few months, pays her monthly support and, I'll be damned if she doesn't honor his request not to have Real Sex with any of the customers she meets in the bar anymore? Not me nor any of her regulars from before she agreed to his offer.

She is still one of the most popular girls in the gogo bar. But ladydrinks only and I never see her leaving with amyone or on her way to and from a hotel except with that old dude whenever he is in town.

Maybe it works the way the sponsor wants it sometimes. Or maybe she just stopped fucking me and is still fucking everyone else on the sly.

[SubCmdr]

So "feeling less transactional" after having spent time with a hooker who would have left the day he'd have told her he don't want to pay her to stay longer is the explanation. Okay. There must be some longer psychological story for this. Wonder how that fits with the common economic theories.

How about for the sponsorship thingy, what are the grey cells doing in those guys heads when sending 10's or 100's of kbahts a month for the hookers that others keep fucking while they are out of the country? That is even more amazing behaviour to me. Not that I am complaining as I can enjoy the benefits locally.

Why are you even using one grey cell to think about what another man is doing with his money or his dick?

You simply cannot win with some posters. It really is not about money. It is about the fact that you are having fun and writing about it and they are not having any fun.

[Knobrm]

Starbucks staff is not staying and sleeping with you for two months though, are they? They're someone you see and say hello to for a minute every morning.

Not too difficult to understand why the guy would feel somewhat less transactional towards a hooker who's been staying and going around with him for a month or two, as obviously they'll have to be doing something else than just fucking or drinking coffee all day for two months.

So "feeling less transactional" after having spent time with a hooker who would have left the day he'd have told her he don't want to pay her to stay longer is the explanation. Okay. There must be some longer psychological story for this. Wonder how that fits with the common economic theories.

How about for the sponsorship thingy, what are the grey cells doing in those guys heads when sending 10's or 100's of kbahts a month for the hookers that others keep fucking while they are out of the country? That is even more amazing behaviour to me. Not that I am complaining as I can enjoy the benefits locally.

[Werqweq]

We are talking about hookers here, not "some girl we liked. " I spent 2 months going to Starbucks for coffee every morning, yet nothing inside of me ever said I should buy the cashier a new laptop. But when paying a chick for sex, something goes off in some guys' heads saying he should shower her with unsolicited gifts in addition to paying the required fee for sex? Make that make sense.

Starbucks staff is not staying and sleeping with you for two months though, are they? They're someone you see and say hello to for a minute every morning.

Not too difficult to understand why the guy would feel somewhat less transactional towards a hooker who's been staying and going around with him for a month or two, as obviously they'll have to be doing something else than just fucking or drinking coffee all day for two months.

[SubCmdr]

Example of Poverty Thinking

People with real money have enough sense not to brag about it. Just look at the Korean men in the clubs. Many of them gladly pay higher prices but you won't see them bragging about it. They just pay it and enjoy themselves. And the girls prefer them to even those dumb enough to try to outspend them. People that brag about things like their money, how much they spend in a club, or their dick size have temporarily escaped poverty and are on their way back to it.

The OP is displaying all the aspects of poverty thinking as detailed below:

Agree. Poverty thinking takes away most of the fun. Instead of thinking about having fun, the poverty thinker is thinking about whether he got a good deal, or did someome get a better deal, what else can I do, what are her boundaries, etc. Having fun is first, all else falls away.

The poster below makes the exact point that I make:

I am in Pattaya now and I could care less what others are paying. It does not affect me in any way. I pay what I want to pay and that is all that matters. If you are paying less for the exact same girl for the exact same performance for the exact amount of time, more power to you. It doesn't matter to me. As others have said, it's my money and my time and I'll do what I want with it and no one's going to tell me how to spend my money. You should focus on yourself and stop worrying about what other people are paying.

The original OP can do their best to redefine what Poverty Thinking is. That is only because has a poverty mentality and cannot change his perspective and understand that he needs to stop worrying about others and pay more attention to having fun himself.

[Allover]

People with real money have enough sense not to brag about it. Just look at the Korean men in the clubs. Many of them gladly pay higher prices but you won't see them bragging about it. They just pay it and enjoy themselves. And the girls prefer them to even those dumb enough to try to outspend them. People that brag about things like their money, how much they spend in a club, or their dick size have temporarily escaped poverty and are on their way back to it.

[HorseTrader]

Having been on ISG for many years I have been able to understand the motive behind the cheap charlies. It is not poverty or poverty thinking. These guys subconsciously resent women probably from having been snubbed by women too often back home, and having sex with women for as little as possible palliates their ill will.

I've occasionally been called "cheap Charlie" for refusal to buy her "sister" a drink or refusal to ring the bell. When I find a girl I like, I'll bar fine her and maybe pay more than necessary. I often tip mamasan if she has a good group of girls. I don't have any interest in getting the reputation of easy money. My being a cheap Charlie is unrelated to the things Turgid mentions.

But then again, I use Thai bars like I use hardware stores: start with a shopping list, browse the products, purchase what I want, and leave. I seldom hang around and chit chat at hardware stores or at Thai bars.

[MoonShot]

I am in Pattaya now and I could care less what others are paying. It does not affect me in any way. I pay what I want to pay and that is all that matters. If you are paying less for the exact same girl for the exact same performance for the exact amount of time, more power to you. It doesn't matter to me. As others have said, it's my money and my time and I'll do what I want with it and no one's going to tell me how to spend my money. You should focus on yourself and stop worrying about what other people are paying.