Pattaya Reports

[Werqweq]

We are talking about hookers here, not "some girl we liked. " I spent 2 months going to Starbucks for coffee every morning, yet nothing inside of me ever said I should buy the cashier a new laptop. But when paying a chick for sex, something goes off in some guys' heads saying he should shower her with unsolicited gifts in addition to paying the required fee for sex? Make that make sense.

Starbucks staff is not staying and sleeping with you for two months though, are they? They're someone you see and say hello to for a minute every morning.

Not too difficult to understand why the guy would feel somewhat less transactional towards a hooker who's been staying and going around with him for a month or two, as obviously they'll have to be doing something else than just fucking or drinking coffee all day for two months.

[SubCmdr]

Example of Poverty Thinking

People with real money have enough sense not to brag about it. Just look at the Korean men in the clubs. Many of them gladly pay higher prices but you won't see them bragging about it. They just pay it and enjoy themselves. And the girls prefer them to even those dumb enough to try to outspend them. People that brag about things like their money, how much they spend in a club, or their dick size have temporarily escaped poverty and are on their way back to it.

The OP is displaying all the aspects of poverty thinking as detailed below:

Agree. Poverty thinking takes away most of the fun. Instead of thinking about having fun, the poverty thinker is thinking about whether he got a good deal, or did someome get a better deal, what else can I do, what are her boundaries, etc. Having fun is first, all else falls away.

The poster below makes the exact point that I make:

I am in Pattaya now and I could care less what others are paying. It does not affect me in any way. I pay what I want to pay and that is all that matters. If you are paying less for the exact same girl for the exact same performance for the exact amount of time, more power to you. It doesn't matter to me. As others have said, it's my money and my time and I'll do what I want with it and no one's going to tell me how to spend my money. You should focus on yourself and stop worrying about what other people are paying.

The original OP can do their best to redefine what Poverty Thinking is. That is only because has a poverty mentality and cannot change his perspective and understand that he needs to stop worrying about others and pay more attention to having fun himself.

[Allover]

People with real money have enough sense not to brag about it. Just look at the Korean men in the clubs. Many of them gladly pay higher prices but you won't see them bragging about it. They just pay it and enjoy themselves. And the girls prefer them to even those dumb enough to try to outspend them. People that brag about things like their money, how much they spend in a club, or their dick size have temporarily escaped poverty and are on their way back to it.

[HorseTrader]

Having been on ISG for many years I have been able to understand the motive behind the cheap charlies. It is not poverty or poverty thinking. These guys subconsciously resent women probably from having been snubbed by women too often back home, and having sex with women for as little as possible palliates their ill will.

I've occasionally been called "cheap Charlie" for refusal to buy her "sister" a drink or refusal to ring the bell. When I find a girl I like, I'll bar fine her and maybe pay more than necessary. I often tip mamasan if she has a good group of girls. I don't have any interest in getting the reputation of easy money. My being a cheap Charlie is unrelated to the things Turgid mentions.

But then again, I use Thai bars like I use hardware stores: start with a shopping list, browse the products, purchase what I want, and leave. I seldom hang around and chit chat at hardware stores or at Thai bars.

[MoonShot]

I am in Pattaya now and I could care less what others are paying. It does not affect me in any way. I pay what I want to pay and that is all that matters. If you are paying less for the exact same girl for the exact same performance for the exact amount of time, more power to you. It doesn't matter to me. As others have said, it's my money and my time and I'll do what I want with it and no one's going to tell me how to spend my money. You should focus on yourself and stop worrying about what other people are paying.

[Turgid]

Agree. Poverty thinking takes away most of the fun. Instead of thinking about having fun, the poverty thinker is thinking about whether he got a good deal, or did someome get a better deal, what else can I do, what are her boundaries, etc. Having fun is first, all else falls away.

Having been on ISG for many years I have been able to understand the motive behind the cheap charlies. It is not poverty or poverty thinking. These guys subconsciously resent women probably from having been snubbed by women too often back home, and having sex with women for as little as possible palliates their ill will.

[Mr Enternational]

You kind of make it sound like you have never bought anything nice for somebody you liked, if it keeps bothering you like that.

Guy spent two months with a girl, so he must have liked her. Saw she had a broken old phone, treated her to a new one. Maybe 50 k for him is not as much as you think.

We are talking about hookers here, not "some girl we liked. " I spent 2 months going to Starbucks for coffee every morning, yet nothing inside of me ever said I should buy the cashier a new laptop. But when paying a chick for sex, something goes off in some guys' heads saying he should shower her with unsolicited gifts in addition to paying the required fee for sex? Make that make sense.

[BeachDrone]

You simply cannot win with some posters. It really is not about money. It is about the fact that you are having fun and writing about it and they are not having any fun.

Agree. Poverty thinking takes away most of the fun. Instead of thinking about having fun, the poverty thinker is thinking about whether he got a good deal, or did someome get a better deal, what else can I do, what are her boundaries, etc. Having fun is first, all else falls away.

[SubCmdr]

Is it ok with all of you to give a girl 100 THB for the moto taxi or 200 for a Bolt Car?

You are a a collective group a bunch of cheap ass (compound profanity deleted)!

Thai Friends girl just asked me for 2500 THB Short Time One shot.

Higher price does not mean Pretty.

What do higher prices mean?

1000 baht does mean UGLY. Come on bro. Think.

Are you sure about that?

I have an after hours girl from Soi 6 that suits me just fine. 1100 THB for a short time (2 -3 hours) that involves multiple orgasms for us both. I sourced her from Thai Friendly. Lots of BBBJ. Boom Boom, BBBJCIM, she is 26. She puts her own music on her phone on when she comes over. I actually have her send me her favorite YouTube sound tracks to me. She likes 808. She like the music I like.

Who among us is going to say that my Soi 6 girls is low quality or ugly?

Another example of poverty thinking

Exactly. Some mongers try to impress girls. Some mongers even try to impress other mongers while talking about having a lot of money, a big dick, and claim they be ballin like a pro. These people usually don't have lots of money or a big dick despite their raving like lunatics. The point is the girls like it easy, fast, and want to be treated nicely. Which is why so many falang newcomers to Pattaya have trouble understanding the girls prefer Korean men.

You simply cannot win with some posters. It really is not about money. It is about the fact that you are having fun and writing about it and they are not having any fun.

[SubCmdr]

rather not really understanding their thinking when buying expensive things for a simple country girl hooker that wouldn't spend a day with him if he stops paying the daily / weekly / monthly rent. But you might well be right saying I am the odd one. To each of their own.

I don't understand the logic of others worrying about someone else's stack and how they spend it. Certain posters I have known for over 12 years have always had an excessive interest in what others spend and speaking about how he spends less. Personally I think people like that don't actually have any money. It is a poverty mentality that I personally disagree with.

My time; My money; My dick; My call!

Want to be International Tricks ought to worry about increasing their flow in their home countries so they can build their stack so they can engage in the International Trickin activities of their choice once they are wheels down at their destinations.

I am in a trading group. We buy and sell things all the time. We discuss entry and exit points. Not once (except for instance of poverty minded thinking detailed below) has anyone ever made a comment on my buy and sell points. You see that is not the point of the discussion. The point of the discussion it to learn how to make those decisions for ourselves.

Examples of Poverty Thinking

Mr E said, often times it is the guys buying something expensive (relatively to the girls financial position) for these simple girls that they did not ask for and do not understand about, and would rather not spend the money for such things

Just like the sponsorship thingy, this proactive volunteering to buy expensive things to the simple country girls (the psychology of it) keeps bothering me as I just can't get it. Hope one day someone explains what happens in guy's head when those things happen.

How about a report where the individuals instead of worrying about others spend their stack actually file a report?

A report consists of the of the following information:

1. Where they hired their prostitute.

2. What social / sexual services their prostitute provided them?

3. How much they paid their prostitute?

Another example of Poverty Thinking

Some fools have to outspend Koreans to get a girl because they have no game and dress funny. Black dress shoes and shorts. Or cheap Biaggi shoes you can buy everywhere in town. And they are likely to stay in Pattaya because of legal issues they have in their country of origin.

Here is an individual worried about how much someone has to pay in order to get the prostitute they desire. They are worrying about that while sitting in sex prison in their country of origin while others are in Thailand having fun actually fucking the prostitutes they are worried about how they're are paying for.

Just another example of small minded thinking. Although if you don't have the flow to build your stack I understand why people are always worried about how others spend theirs. It comes down to not having any of their own to spend. They read reports and hear things and think: If I had money like that I wouldn't spend it like that! How do you know if you never developed a flow to build and stack that would allow to your spent 50,000 THB in a manner you consider frivolous?

I happen to enjoy spending my stack in a way that I enjoy. Makes me feel good. 10000 THB the night before NYE partying up in Heaven Best. Second best sexual experience I have ever had in my entire 19 months of being in Pattaya. Guess what. The bar fine on NYE was 3000 THB for all the girls. That the costume for the night was sexy CoPlay and she still had to buy here outfit. I told her that I want to see a picture of her in it. On New Years Day we greeted each other. I asked where was my sexy picture. She told me that she never had to put on her outfit. NYE a customer bar fined her and she didn't even have to go into the club. Yes, the night the bar fine was 3000 plus her fee. He took her to dinner then fireworks. You see if I wanted to pay that I could have. But I didn't and therefore I am not wondering why someone else did.

Can everyone see the difference between how I have a mentality of abundance and others have a mentality of poverty? What happened to: It is better to give than to receive? Or do your change the rules when the girl is a prostitute?

[Paolo99]

Just like the sponsorship thingy, this proactive volunteering to buy expensive things to the simple country girls (the psychology of it) keeps bothering me as I just can't get it. Hope one day someone explains what happens in guy's head when those things happen.
Go Figure.

It seems simple, the guy got emotionnally involved in his relationship with the prostitute.

He wants to make her at ease with him or reward her for the "privileged" relationship he is experiencing with her.

[Knobrm]

You kind of make it sound like you have never bought anything nice for somebody you liked, if it keeps bothering you like that.

Guy spent two months with a girl, so he must have liked her. Saw she had a broken old phone, treated her to a new one. Maybe 50 k for him is not as much as you think.

To be clear, I am not bothered by the guys buying, rather not really understanding their thinking when buying expensive things for a simple country girl hooker that wouldn't spend a day with him if he stops paying the daily / weekly / monthly rent. But you might well be right saying I am the odd one. To each of their own.

I asked her if she would rather prefer 10 k phone and 40+k in cash, and she told of course she would. But she said she was too shy to ask for that as he wanted to buy the phone. Not a first time I heard a girl saying this, they just scared the alternative request burns down the whole thing as a result of lost feeling on the mongers end. Actually she is now contemplating selling the phone at discount and still get a new phone and good cash pile.

Anyway, as Mr E said, often times it is the guys buying something expensive (relatively to the girls financial position) for these simple girls that they did not ask for and do not understand about, and would rather not spend the money for such things, though sure sometimes the hookers milking the benevolent mongers to the last drop.

[Werqweq]

Just like the sponsorship thingy, this proactive volunteering to buy expensive things to the simple country girls (the psychology of it) keeps bothering me as I just can't get it. Hope one day someone explains what happens in guy's head when those things happen.

As a prime example one of my regulars had a customer here staying for 60 days and she ended up staying with him most of that time (don't know the rate he paid). However, one day when she came by for a ST, noticed she has a new phone (as her old phone had cracked screen for quite a while). She told the man bought for her. I asked how much it cost. I was shocked to hear it was a new top of the line Samsung costing over 50 K! She said she did not ask for that, but the man just wanted to buy her that model. Couple of weeks later at an other visit, noticed she had new wheels on her car. She said the same man wanted to buy for her the alloy wheels and new tyres for her car.

Go Figure.

You kind of make it sound like you have never bought anything nice for somebody you liked, if it keeps bothering you like that.

Guy spent two months with a girl, so he must have liked her. Saw she had a broken old phone, treated her to a new one. Maybe 50 k for him is not as much as you think.

[Knobrm]

I pay 2000 LT for relatively short periods of time.

I pay 1000 a day for for multi-week periods.

In between, I pay on a sliding scale, maybe 10,000 a week.

I don't take the lady shopping, except in emergencies. One time, a lady's cell phone died in Argentina, and I bought her a cheap Samsung.

Likewise, actually less than that until lately.

Re the OP, having a customer spec like that posted online for a short term deal is hard to see happening. On the ground no problem, just need time. However if you only have 3 days for the whole trip, it is as likely as online ordered custom made suit for an odd-shaped body fitting as well as Saville Row one with multiple fittings and adjustments.

[Knobrm]

I beg to differ. That is always the foreigner's idea, not the girls'. You know how many chicks have told me about foreigners forcing iphones on them? 20 years of going to Thailand and I have never had a chick ask me to buy her shit except food.

Just like the sponsorship thingy, this proactive volunteering to buy expensive things to the simple country girls (the psychology of it) keeps bothering me as I just can't get it. Hope one day someone explains what happens in guy's head when those things happen.

As a prime example one of my regulars had a customer here staying for 60 days and she ended up staying with him most of that time (don't know the rate he paid). However, one day when she came by for a ST, noticed she has a new phone (as her old phone had cracked screen for quite a while). She told the man bought for her. I asked how much it cost. I was shocked to hear it was a new top of the line Samsung costing over 50 K! She said she did not ask for that, but the man just wanted to buy her that model. Couple of weeks later at an other visit, noticed she had new wheels on her car. She said the same man wanted to buy for her the alloy wheels and new tyres for her car.

Go Figure.