Jakarta

[Safado70]

Here some short notes about my first day in Jakarta.

I arrived in the middle of the night, which made transport to my hotel quite easy. I changed some money at the airport. It turned out that the rate I got there (16600 for the Euro) was the same I got in the city. On my next trip I might take advantage of this and change more. Saving me a trip to the money exchange.

Classic, terminal 2.

The next day at 5 pm my first trip was to Classic, terminal 2. Met 2 bules, one of them has been living in Jakarta for more than 4 years. They showed me around and gave some helpful tips. Helped me manage the pushy mamasans. Thank you guys.

I didn't count the girls. Might have been 100. The quality was slightly better than Soi 6. I didn't like it when the mamasans would call the girls to our table, because it was too dark in this part of the room. I liked it much more just to walk around and see the girl sitting on the Illuminated benches around the walls. Walking around I found this little spinner smiling at me. 19 why / o, beautiful face, hard body and some nice A cups. She was smiling and nice to be around. So off to the room.

The room was a bit run down. The door of the shower would not close, and the mattress was way too soft. Instead of changing the bed linen, the girl just put a towel on the place where we would fuck. I guess you get what you pay for.

The girl asked me if I wanted to use a condom. When I said no, she just put it away. There was no discussion about a tip.

Sadly, her performance in bed was disappointing. Everything felt really rushed. She only wanted to suck dick for a short period of time, didn't have stamina for cow girl and said that she didn't like doggy. After maybe 10 minutes of fucking she already asked me to come. Usually, this would have bothered me. But a few variations of mish were actually fun, and I enjoyed barebacking this sexy 19 why / o. This is what I came prepared for. I got my HIV PreP medication from Pulse clinic in Pattaya and I was putting it to good use.

After we finished I tipped her 200 k. In a smiling and friendly manner she asked if she could get 100 k more, which I denied. I was a bit worried that she was unhappy with the tip. But later my new pals told me that I could relax. No matter what tip you give, most girls ask for a 100 k more. And when I told them about my experience, they said that you have a 50% chance of getting good service from the girls at Classic. If the service is bad, just remember how cheap it is and just move on to the next one.

Kotah Inda.

Later, around 8 pm we checked some bars in Kotah Inda. If I remember correctly Sari Ayu, Mega Ayu and Royal. I didn't like the setup. Very loud music, lots of smoke, the girls were difficult to see. The strangest thing was the behaviour of the girls. Even when a mamasan called them for a line up, the girls would look at us. Of the 20 girls that were presented to us, only 1 or 2 showed the slightest interest in being picked. My pal told me that he usually comes way earlier, in the afternoon, and the experience is better. I might try that one day.

CJ.

Got there around 11 pm. A very nice night club / bar. When I got there, there were maybe 15 single girls. I talked to a few of them. It was refreshing to have some good conversations in English. Most of them spoke really well. But I didn't like any enough to take her home with me. I didn't even ask about prices. My biggest problem was the temperature. It was freezing. Felt like 14 see, with a chilling wind. At 1 am there were more girls coming. But at that point I felt like I was getting a cold and I went home. If I come back, I will wear a sweater on top of a long sleeved shirt.

[XXL]

For safety reasons, always use an ATM connected to a bank. There's security and if your card gets stuck in the ATM, security can have the ATM opened and return you your card right away.

Many ATMs have a sticker showing either 100 ks or 50 ks notes.

100's ATM will give more money than 50's.

Most 100's have a 20 million limit per day withdrawal when you withdraw multiple times.

I think bank staff are instructed to return a swallowed card only if you can identify yourself as the owner of the card. You would need to carry at least your passport (and own a card with your name on it). Otherwise anyone could show up alleging they just lost a card in the machine. In many countries bank staff never return a card even if they witness the whole thing, never mind if you show your passport

[Lumens]

Stayin in a monger venue? Pros / Cons?

I will preface this by saying I usually stay at sparks hotel due to never having missed in this area (almost always a great time) I keep going back but.

Has anyone actually tried to stay at the Classic hotel, Hotel Travel or Olympic Hotel in Lokasari and in Kelapa Gading a lot of the venues are "Hotel" & spas (D'Heaven Hotel & Spa Kelapa Gading).

Will they not allow outside working girls to come into the hotel?

Is this a lot like shitting where you sleep?

Why do we not just stay in these hotels and why is it not recommended.

Its been a while since I've been to Jakarta but io plan to take a trip verry soon so re-uping my intel on the scene and wanted to know if anyone does stay at these venues or if there is some downside to it.

Just as a secondary question I think its been about 6 years since I've been back maybe 2018 was my last time there has much changed since then, anything of note? Is sparks and Mangga Besar still a good hunting ground seems like it is from the reports I've read I will continue to do some research but its been a while.

TI.

There have been a least a few posts about people staying at classic in the last 2-3 months.

[Joe2422]

Nothing. I just didn't see anyone else doing it (foreigners included).

You haven't seen me? I always want to have a beer in peace and watch what's going on. I either go up to the girls myself or stand in front of them for a while and then the mom comes. Usually they all stand at the entrance to fish out the newbies. It's like a line of moms who come one after the other. The disadvantage of this approach is that one or the other cannot be found again because it has a customer.

[Gaijin Gigolo]

I asked ChatGPT which ATMs were best for foreigners in Jakarta.

According to ChatGPT, BNI, Bank Mandiri and BRI have transaction limits as high as 5 million. In this thread we have usually been complaining ATMs will give you no more than half that sum. Has anyone here here been lucky enough to get 5 million from these ATMs?

I stress more about money logistics these days than anything else as payment means often turn out the limiting factor, especially since getting replacement for credits cards is not as straightforward in my case as it is for some mongers who live in the same country as their issuing bank.

Sorry but have to ask, why would you want to carry around that much cash? I certainly would not. I wouldn't spend that much in Jakarta in an entire week.

[King Squared]

Just ask the girl. What are you afraid of?

Nothing. I just didn't see anyone else doing it (foreigners included).

[NigerianPrince]

For safety reasons, always use an ATM connected to a bank. There's security and if your card gets stuck in the ATM, security can have the ATM opened and return you your card right away.

Many ATMs have a sticker showing either 100 ks or 50 ks notes.

100's ATM will give more money than 50's.

Most 100's have a 20 million limit per day withdrawal when you withdraw multiple times.

[LoveItHere69]

Most ATMs I used while there had a limit of 1.2 million IDR in 100 k bills or 1.25 million IDR in 50 k bills. Including BNI, BRI, Link, and the 2 ATMs at classic..

CIMB Niaga. Choose Other and enter 3,000,000. From Classic, walk to train. Just past the train on your right. I do not even answer half the questions or correct half the wrong comments I read. Your welcome.

[Scarer]

I asked ChatGPT which ATMs were best for foreigners in Jakarta.

According to ChatGPT, BNI, Bank Mandiri and BRI have transaction limits as high as 5 million. In this thread we have usually been complaining ATMs will give you no more than half that sum. Has anyone here here been lucky enough to get 5 million from these ATMs?

I stress more about money logistics these days than anything else as payment means often turn out the limiting factor, especially since getting replacement for credits cards is not as straightforward in my case as it is for some mongers who live in the same country as their issuing bank.

Not sure which bank it was but there are two ATMs on the left corner as soon as you cross the Immigration and Customs at Jakarta Airport. Those ATMs were able to disperse 2. 5 M for me (not sure what was the limit). I have seen it in few countries where the ATMs don't show a limit and if the amount you try to withdraw is more than what can fit in the ATM's opening, it doesn't open the door but will still debit the money from your account. It will be annoying during travel to handle these situations at a bank in a non english speaking country. So my advice would be to withdraw twice.

Also few ATMs in Asia take the card in and eject it out after the transaction is over. I forgot my card (no forex fee debit card) in one of the ATMs. There is no way of getting it back and they just destroy it later. Thankfully I had another no forex fee backup card. I had to order a replacement card after coming back to my home country. So make sure to take your card after the transaction is done.

[Gabacho]

The high limit ones are HSBC. The others have been low and frankly gotten lower in the last 5 years. That being said, I usually hit the BNI for 2. 5 as it's the highest you can go. As per previous posts, decline the banks conversion because their rate builds in a hefty fee. Use an ATM card that reimburses you ATM fees back. If you need 5 M, draw the funds twice if you haven't hit your accounts day limit.

If you need more cash faster, to convert your crisp mint $100 usd bills at dua sisi in Grand Indo. LG floor. If you convert an amount more than the average tourist, bring your passport.

Which BNI had 2.5 m IDR limit?

I specifically remember using a BNI in Pasar Baru and it had 1.25 m IDR limit. I was using Capital One and Fidelity cards.

Gabacho.

[BenderOver]

I asked ChatGPT which ATMs were best for foreigners in Jakarta.

According to ChatGPT, BNI, Bank Mandiri and BRI have transaction limits as high as 5 million. In this thread we have usually been complaining ATMs will give you no more than half that sum. Has anyone here here been lucky enough to get 5 million from these ATMs?

I stress more about money logistics these days than anything else as payment means often turn out the limiting factor, especially since getting replacement for credits cards is not as straightforward in my case as it is for some mongers who live in the same country as their issuing bank.

The high limit ones are HSBC. The others have been low and frankly gotten lower in the last 5 years. That being said, I usually hit the BNI for 2. 5 as it's the highest you can go. As per previous posts, decline the banks conversion because their rate builds in a hefty fee. Use an ATM card that reimburses you ATM fees back. If you need 5 M, draw the funds twice if you haven't hit your accounts day limit.

If you need more cash faster, to convert your crisp mint $100 usd bills at dua sisi in Grand Indo. LG floor. If you convert an amount more than the average tourist, bring your passport.

[Joe2422]

I asked ChatGPT which ATMs were best for foreigners in Jakarta.

According to ChatGPT, BNI, Bank Mandiri and BRI have transaction limits as high as 5 million. In this thread we have usually been complaining ATMs will give you no more than half that sum. Has anyone here here been lucky enough to get 5 million from these ATMs?

I stress more about money logistics these days than anything else as payment means often turn out the limiting factor, especially since getting replacement for credits cards is not as straightforward in my case as it is for some mongers who live in the same country as their issuing bank.

I traveled a lot in Jakarta and didn't find a single ATM where the limit was less than 1.5 million. I have two credit cards and withdraw 2.5 million every day. I've also read that if you withdraw twice, your card can be taken. I know Emporium, Club 1001, Classic, Travel all accept card payments. Maybe I'm too scared, but in a country with such strict legislation, paying with cards in such shops is not advisable.

[Gabacho]

I asked ChatGPT which ATMs were best for foreigners in Jakarta.

According to ChatGPT, BNI, Bank Mandiri and BRI have transaction limits as high as 5 million. In this thread we have usually been complaining ATMs will give you no more than half that sum. Has anyone here here been lucky enough to get 5 million from these ATMs?

I stress more about money logistics these days than anything else as payment means often turn out the limiting factor, especially since getting replacement for credits cards is not as straightforward in my case as it is for some mongers who live in the same country as their issuing bank.

Most ATMs I used while there had a limit of 1.2 million IDR in 100 k bills or 1.25 million IDR in 50 k bills. Including BNI, BRI, Link, and the 2 ATMs at classic. There is however no limit to the amount of transactions you can do. So as long as your card issuer doesn't charge any fees you can just do back to back transactions (4 times of the 1.25 million) to get to thrle 5 million you want. That being said 5 million actually would be like a brick of cash especially if it was in 50 k notes. There is no reason to need that much cash all at once unless going to 1001 or emporium but they accept cards from what I understand. Most the time 1 million per day was sufficient during my stay and I would pref6 the blue 50 k notes as opposed to the red 100 k notes because when paying for a 30 k lunch at a cheap local restaurant or the street food tents, they wouldn't always have change for the 100 k note and then you are sitting around waiting for them to go get change, just like using a 100 k note in Colombia.

My advice would be to just take out 1.25 million in 50 k notes and carry that on you for the day and for any large purchases such as 1001, emporium, etc use your debit card or credit card to pay.

Gabacho.

[Gaijin Gigolo]

When you first enter, a mamasan always comes up to you but I like to go get a drink first. They will leave me alone after this but my problem is that when I am ready and I see a girl I am interested in, I am not sure which mamasan to go to or I have to go find the mamasan for that group. How do other guys handle this?

Just ask the girl. What are you afraid of?

[XXL]

I asked ChatGPT which ATMs were best for foreigners in Jakarta.

According to ChatGPT, BNI, Bank Mandiri and BRI have transaction limits as high as 5 million. In this thread we have usually been complaining ATMs will give you no more than half that sum. Has anyone here here been lucky enough to get 5 million from these ATMs?

I stress more about money logistics these days than anything else as payment means often turn out the limiting factor, especially since getting replacement for credits cards is not as straightforward in my case as it is for some mongers who live in the same country as their issuing bank.