Jakarta

[Werqweq]

First of all, thank you for your kind reply. However, I understand that you have never been to the Philippines. In the Philippines, but not only there, you can go with all the regular girls you want, but they all expect some money when you leave. Since I do not know Indonesia, for this reason I had asked this question that you find weird. However, your answer leaves me a bit perplexed. Beyond all, I am not young.

I visited the Philippines for some training about four times during a period of two years while living in Thailand, though only for a couple of weeks at a time, so hardly an expert.

Except for hookers in some shape or form, no girl there expected any money from me however, so I don't think there's anything special about the pinay darlings in that regard.
Didn't really feel I could go with all the regular girls I wanted either, even though I was still relatively young and handsome at the time. Go with any hooker I wanted? Yeah, maybe.

[Crocodilexp]

Alomost all girls at Classic are there for money, Indon have genetically built in ability to feel victom. Girls look to work at classic cause its easy money, So she made easy money by making you feel victom of trauma. Brothels are not the place to feel bad for girls, you are their to have good time. You paid for sex instead you turned into nice guy.

I bet after making you fool she called her favorite client and fuck the hell of him or her boyfriend.

No one is holding girls hostage, or at gun point to work here. Next time, take girl first for short time, and get your deed done and start a fling with girl if she provided great service.

You're so deeply wrong, and lack any semblance of empathy. Working girls at places like Classic or Travel have had hard lives, might be in debt, and therefore make the faustian bargain of working the job they do. I can't stand those rude, gnarly, pushy mamasans for 10 minutes, and the girls have to endure them riding their ass for months. Preman (gangster) types running those venues are not pleasant employers who respect their workers.

Indonesia is not Pattaya. Society deeply disapproves of what they do, and Indonesians do care what others think. These are not the carefree Thai girls who make a quick buck for a while, don't feel bad about it, and then go on with their lives, maybe dabble again when money is short. They're deep outcasts.

As for "no one is holding girls hostage", I have my doubts. Obviously, I have no solid proof, but given the attitudes compared to many other types of working girls across SE Asia, I suspect not all are willingly there. There are shades and degrees of coercion. While they are obviously not literally held at gunpoint, there might be "debt" (real or invented) involved, and some real threats.

[Amadeuss]

Hello guys,

I am a senior member from India and need suggestion for a bachelor night at Jakarta and Balu.

We, six of us, are planning for a bachelor party in Bali and to Jakarta. To make it interesting, we are looking to rent a pool villa and arrange a party for a night. Looking for contacts / mamasan who can provide 3-4 girls for the night in Bali. Any contacts please DM.

Thanks.

Your host got a budget of 5000 $?

Then this villa may fit, 6 bedrooms, all luxury and secluded with pool, location near Bogor (50 km on highway).

Be ready to pay 1000 EU a night, min 3 nights. Caterer for food and drinks in Bogor available.

Girls check with escort agencies, 3 Mio Rupiah a night per girl will get you some selection. They can easy come to Bogor.

[RockyBhai85]

Hello guys,

I am a senior member from India and need suggestion for a bachelor night at Jakarta and Balu.

We, six of us, are planning for a bachelor party in Bali and to Jakarta. To make it interesting, we are looking to rent a pool villa and arrange a party for a night. Looking for contacts / mamasan who can provide 3-4 girls for the night in Bali. Any contacts please DM.

Thanks.

[Sychip1]

The question is a bit weird. A regular/normal girl is not going to expect any less or more money from you in Jakarta than she would in New York, Paris, Madrid, etc., which is zero as she's not a hooker.

Since you're talking about paying I'm guessing you're thinking of someone who is at best a freelancer. A part-time hooker. If you were to find one, she will tell you herself in the beginning, when you suggest she stays with you for the next 10 days.

If she instead asks you what you will give her I'd offer her 500,000 per evening/night (presumably she has normal work/school during the day if she's only hooking part-time) as a start, and take it from there. More than 1,000,000 per night for such a long duration I think would be overpaying unless there's something special, as a guaranteed 10 M for 10 days is pretty good. I'd also add round-trip taxis for her to you and back to work/school in the morning if she's staying with you like that. You can book for her yourself via the grab app on your phone, and then you will also know when she will arrive.

Logically that's sound but perhaps you'd need some luck to find someone like that to be willing to spend time continuously and that's rather a low rate IMO. Because just playing devils advocate a girl even from Lokasiri would be 350-400 k per 45-60 minutes. To take out from Classic for example would be far more than their rate onsite for one session like 2 or 3 x from other bros reports.

Just from dating multiple girls in Jakarta over the past few months and chatting to dozens more I rarely found anyone who wasn't working full time. Students would be working part time. Many of them take their job very seriously as they well might.

SA might be your best bet, I'm not an expert on this as I use the dating apps but from other bros reports it's 1. 5-2 m for the night or more.

[JonesLover]

The question is a bit weird. A regular/normal girl is not going to expect any less or more money from you in Jakarta than she would in New York, Paris, Madrid, etc., which is zero as she's not a hooker.

Since you're talking about paying I'm guessing you're thinking of someone who is at best a freelancer. A part-time hooker. If you were to find one, she will tell you herself in the beginning, when you suggest she stays with you for the next 10 days.

If she instead asks you what you will give her I'd offer her 500,000 per evening/night (presumably she has normal work/school during the day if she's only hooking part-time) as a start, and take it from there. More than 1,000,000 per night for such a long duration I think would be overpaying unless there's something special, as a guaranteed 10 M for 10 days is pretty good. I'd also add round-trip taxis for her to you and back to work/school in the morning if she's staying with you like that. You can book for her yourself via the grab app on your phone, and then you will also know when she will arrive.

First of all, thank you for your kind reply. However, I understand that you have never been to the Philippines. In the Philippines, but not only there, you can go with all the regular girls you want, but they all expect some money when you leave. Since I do not know Indonesia, for this reason I had asked this question that you find weird. However, your answer leaves me a bit perplexed. Beyond all, I am not young.

[Werqweq]

Hi,

You have more experience than me because I don't know Indonesia, so I would like to ask a question: if I were to find a regular girl online 20-24 yo), not a pro, and we are together for 10 days full time, that is, I meet her every day or she comes to live with me in my rented comfortable apartment, how much money could I give her when I leave, but without exceeding? I am quite old.

Thank you for your suggestions.

The question is a bit weird. A regular/normal girl is not going to expect any less or more money from you in Jakarta than she would in New York, Paris, Madrid, etc., which is zero as she's not a hooker.

Since you're talking about paying I'm guessing you're thinking of someone who is at best a freelancer. A part-time hooker. If you were to find one, she will tell you herself in the beginning, when you suggest she stays with you for the next 10 days.

If she instead asks you what you will give her I'd offer her 500,000 per evening/night (presumably she has normal work/school during the day if she's only hooking part-time) as a start, and take it from there. More than 1,000,000 per night for such a long duration I think would be overpaying unless there's something special, as a guaranteed 10 M for 10 days is pretty good. I'd also add round-trip taxis for her to you and back to work/school in the morning if she's staying with you like that. You can book for her yourself via the grab app on your phone, and then you will also know when she will arrive.

[LoveItHere69]

My arrival will be somewhat late, so I've decided on the first night in south Tangerang (hoping on a quicker trip from the airport).

You need to RTTF. Jakarta traffic is horrible. Why on earth would you stay near the airport when your plane arrives late when you could zip down the streets with little traffic. But instead you want to wait until the next day when the streets are packed to get to your real desired location. Good idea!

[Irish Mongrel]

Hi,

You have more experience than me because I don't know Indonesia, so I would like to ask a question: if I were to find a regular girl online 20-24 yo), not a pro, and we are together for 10 days full time, that is, I meet her every day or she comes to live with me in my rented comfortable apartment, how much money could I give her when I leave, but without exceeding? I am quite old.

Thank you for your suggestions.

You're looking after her for 10 days, feeding her, taking her out at night, maybe buying her the odd present. Dresses, sexy undies, some nice perfume. No need to pay.

I had a regular Uni student who I initially met thru Tinder. I used to meet her all the time and take her to other places in Asia. She was extremely hot and crazy in bed, and I knew nobody I would meet elsewhere could better her. And basically, she was not after money. She was after the travel and the pictures for her Instagram account! 30+ years age difference.

[JonesLover]

Hi,

You have more experience than me because I don't know Indonesia, so I would like to ask a question: if I were to find a regular girl online 20-24 yo), not a pro, and we are together for 10 days full time, that is, I meet her every day or she comes to live with me in my rented comfortable apartment, how much money could I give her when I leave, but without exceeding? I am quite old.

Thank you for your suggestions.

[ArnoldNe]

After reading your report, I can tell you have great time in Jakarta, not all experiances were great but mostly you had a blast. Thats how it should be, we all work hardcore to affort these little happiness. I do have heart and compassion, Once I came across to a situation where I took a girl inside, while I was busy sucking her boobs she was crying. I immidiatly stopped and ask if everything was ok? She said her mom is really sick and her agent wouldent let her go till she pay off her cost coming here and so on. I just sat with her, comforted her and even gave her tipped her.

Hope next time you explore Jakarta and other part of Indonesia aswell. People say its more fun in the Phillipines, but they don't know, Its more fun in Indonesia.

Awesome man, I too had a hard time deciding between Pattaya and Jakarta, I am glad I chose the latter.

[Xpartan]

Sorry about posting this slightly late, travelling back home was a bit hectic and I got my recovery rest, so posting last day at Jakarta report.

Thank you for taking the time to write about your experiences in such details. I thoroughly enjoyed your reports. Kudos!

[JjBee62]

After much internal debate, I've decided on and booked a trip to Jakarta, mid April. My arrival will be somewhat late, so I've decided on the first night in south Tangerang (hoping on a quicker trip from the airport). Gained some knowledge from Arnoldne's reports and also from Zippos September reviews. Noticed Orchid Spa, in a building with several other spas. Any recent intel on these?

Also saw a Red Light Hotel and Sps in the area wondering if anyone has info about that? Might minimize my stay in Jakarta and move out to Cikarang for a few days before heading to Yogokarta, then on to Bali. Finish up in Jakarta early May. Wouldn't mind starting my trip off right.

Anyone in town feel free to hit me up for a beer.

[MrHappyKat]

Thank you for the collective trip reports. Very informative as well as entertaining.

I appreciate the time and attention to detail, not to mention your transparency about disappointing results along the way, required to document your experiences.

Safe travels back home.

Sorry about posting this slightly late, travelling back home was a bit hectic and I got my recovery rest, so posting last day at Jakarta report.

Cheers and peace out!!

[MohdirFan82]

After reading your report, I can tell you have great time in Jakarta, not all experiances were great but mostly you had a blast. Thats how it should be, we all work hardcore to affort these little happiness. I do have heart and compassion, Once I came across to a situation where I took a girl inside, while I was busy sucking her boobs she was crying. I immidiatly stopped and ask if everything was ok? She said her mom is really sick and her agent wouldent let her go till she pay off her cost coming here and so on. I just sat with her, comforted her and even gave her tipped her.

Hope next time you explore Jakarta and other part of Indonesia aswell. People say its more fun in the Phillipines, but they don't know, Its more fun in Indonesia.

Dear Brother,

I hear what you are saying, and while nobody can ascertain except herself ascertain whether she was telling the truth or not, I am someone who goes with my instincts / or gutfeel if you will.

I too had to work very hard to get where I am at, and to be in a position to afford these vacations, life is not easy on anyone some are born with money and some have to work for it but I can assure you it is not easy on anyone. While we work hard to get the money to spend on these activities, the girls have to sacrifice their bodies to earn our money risking diseases, rough clientale, being in an environment filled with smoke and drinks for their 10-12 hour shifts.

I have just as equally quit on a girl and complained to her mama, if you read my previous reports. The difference is this girl was trying to get by without putting any effort, bought a costly drink without confirming with me first, and in the room she became a dead fish. Whereas the Classic girl didn't say no to anything, she was participative but was being held back by fear and was naturally shaking when I moved to a particular part of her body (it wasn't a trying to get by case). I have been mongering at various places for more than 20 years now and have seen my share of the garden variety of girls that the mongering scene offers and the kind of drama that they can put up. So if my instinct tells me that something is wrong I trust it.

It is possible that I may be wrong, but even if I was I don't feel any remorse or regret for how things went. Her trying to connect with me later also means that she couldn't just forget our time together and made an effort to say something about it by connecting with me later, which she didn't have to, the hit and run types generally don't look back on their victims, they will generally have a laugh with their pals and boast of how big of a fool they made out of me.

Thanks to Werqweq and others who have mentioned the positive comments, appreciate it brothers (We are all Humans before anything else and if we don't feel compassion for one of our own then we are no better than wild animals).