Bangkok Reports

[EdWhy]

Bangkok is fine. Go to Nana. I don't go to Pattaya. I hear from tourists that Phuket is a nightmare.

Yea, I'm thinking about Bangkok for sure. I heard the same about Phuket which is a shame really.

[EdWhy]

Who told you it was dangerous to go to Colombia? It is only dangerous when you are drinking around stangers that you invite to your place. As for all the other places, pussy is still on sale in all of them.

Ok, thank you. It's not what I've been told insomuch as what I've seen and read about. I'll list a few here:

https://co.usembassy.gov/security-al...-of-sedatives/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mI_lG2Nk6ic

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2llUd1qIeNE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dexSmuGpn8c

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SwQWdbeFW40

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4N34G9Ncts

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJ9QG8r3BGY

It's talked about in the Medellin Reports section on ISG as well.

[Goatscrot]

The answer is fewer expats. Since 2012 the amount of expats in China (and tourists) have steady declined. I have seen estimates that the expat population is about 10% of what it was in 2012. There used to be bars that catered to expat and tourists, they are almost all gone now. The price of sex is about the same. 2000 RMB would get you longtime with a pretty girl and my understanding is that is still true. Now finding a girl is not easy. By the way 2000 RMB equals about $300 US. That is why I no longer bother with China.

The answer is Xi's crackdown on prostitution.

[EdWhy]

I monger in Asia because I used to work in China and like the atmosphere in Asia. That said, the trip from the USA to Asia can be brutal. In the last few years I make the trip twice a year and stay a minimum of two weeks. To me Thailand is a very good mongering location. China used to be good but those days are long gone. I usually stay only a few days in Bangkok then the rest of the time in Hua Hin. I have been to Phuket and glad I went. But I have no desire to go back. It is a great tourist spot but not great for mongering. To get more help you need to let us know more about what you are looking for. If you are just looking to increase your body count then Pattaya or Bangkok is the places in Thailand.

Yea, getting to Asia is going to be very brutal. It's going to be a 20+ hour trip for me. I've read however, that Thai Airways is working on getting back into the game with non stop flights to Thailand from JFK. I think it might happen this year. That might make it a bit more bearable for me.

I'm from the states so I frequent the DR. It's only a four hour direct flight for me. What I'm looking for is what I usually get from the DR. Although I'll go pro, I've been very good at getting the semi-pro and the odd Facebook girlfriend. I'll wife up with them when I get down there. I'd like to get that kind of thing elsewhere if possible. I'm currently pushing towards Thailand but I'm also checking out the Philippines. Thai and Philippine girls are hot as hell. In the Philippines, the average monthly salary is about $300 to $500.00 USD a month. So my dollar should go along way over there.

So in brief, hot asian affordable chicas who are semi putas is what Ed wants.

[EihTooms]

The new "gogo" bar on Soi 4, now called Las Vegas, reported to be the 1st gogo bar ON the Soi and not INSIDE Nana Plaza, opened last night.

About 8 pm, I was told by the thoroughly doable late 30's hostess I agreed to go inside with that I was the first customer on their first night to enter the place.

I celebrated by being her and our server a LadyDrink. 220 baht each. Small cocktail glass size, not shots in this case. My soda was 130 baht.

I can't relate any other intel at this time regarding barfines and such because I did not broach the topic with my drinking partner. My GF had just an hour or two previously drained me to within an inch of my life and my preferred approach is to not open a discussion about those things with a bargirl unless and until I am really interested and ready to pull the trigger and go. I don't like to bring it up for the sake of idle curiosity.

Anyway, what I can relate about my brief experience last night is there was no "2 LD" scam pulled on me. Of the dozen or so girls inside and sitting outside the bar at least 5 of them were slim, curvy, young and hot. None of them were in bikinis. They were all wearing street clothes, which I imagine is what will be the case due to its location right on Soi 4, between Hooters and Bus Stop, and the fact that several girls at a time will be perched on stools outside the bar.

I'm not sure I would classify it as a "gogo" bar. More of an indoor beer bar I think. There are no chrome poles. In fact, there is no stage. There is only a small LED-decorated patch on the floor in the center of the bar on which the girls and, I was told, customers with or without "dates" can dance.

The vibe was welcoming on this opening night. If I had at least a drop of Love Nectar left in my balls I would have made an effort to see what a barfine and session would be like with one of those hotties. If any was on offer, that is. These days you never know if the idea of it has ever so much as crossed the mind of girls hustling drinks in these venues or if they will recoil in horror by the mere suggestion of it.

[EihTooms]

I am not sure if you didn't read the forum or what. Kasalong is total shit. If you want a better BJ bar experience go to Wood Bar.

As far as "strolling" goes that is yet another way to find subpar talent not pretty enough to work as a gogo girl. Sure you can prob find someone. But your def fishing in a much muddier pond.

I generally agree with your overall observations.

However, having passed by both Kasalong and Wood Bar several different nights lately, the line up at Wood Bar has to be the most atrocious group of unfortunate physical specimens I have ever seen within 20 meters of a P4 P venue anywhere on the planet. They make at least 3-4 ladies sitting outside of Kasalong and Lolitas look like Victoria's Secrer models by comparison.

But even that said, I suppose it is always possible the 2-3 remotely acceptable providers at Wood Bar or any of its competitors could always happen to be busy upstairs and out of sight every time I have walked by in the past few weeks.

And, admittedly, for some punters how a BJ Bar provider looks is immaterial. Not for me. But for some, I understand. In which case, Wood Bar is taking the concept to beyond outer space.

And, allowing for those same qualifiers, I sent a Line message to a fellow punter just last night that on that particular night, Thursday, February 13, I had seen some of the best lookers freelancing up and down Soi 4 than I had seen in a long time. And dozens of them on the stroll or standing at a particular spot from Sukhumvit all they way down and somewhat past the Soi 4/ Soi 6 intersection.

Really. It was as though a sizable percentage of the top 20-30% of lookers in the Nana Plaza gogo bars had donned their street clothes and decided to give a "no LD and no Barfine" option a spin for the night.

I can't say anything of the kind about the array of FLs on Soi 4 Tuesday night, Monday night or any time last week. And I have no idea if the phenomenon will repeat itself this night, Friday February 14. But last night was a standout looks-wise.

[Bunky]

So, first time in Bangkok, and wanted to give a short report of what I have seen so far. . . . I had to check out one of the BJ bars despite the negative reviews I've read. . . . I have also strolled Soi 4 / Nana multiple times so far at peak hours, and there are definitely some cute ones out there but overall I was a bit dissapointed in what I saw.

Solid report. Enjoyed reading it. Kudos for taking the time to post.

[Steve 9696]

So, first time in Bangkok, and wanted to give a short report of what I have seen so far:

I had to check out one of the BJ bars despite the negative reviews I've read. As I approached Kasalong from a side street off of Soi 4, I could instantly tell that the talent working there was not up to any standard I would even remotely consider for full service. But I was ready to go, and had a pretty good idea of what to expect, so I did it anyway. There were maybe 3 or 4 women working at the time, and honestly they were all 5's at best. Anyway, I chose the one who seemed to have a plucky attitude, big smile, and adequate breasts. Within 3 minutes I'm upstairs and she's washing my dick and balls in a semi-sketchy private room, and then you sit on a little leather couch with a towel under you. She got to work instantly, and while it wasn't the pro-level, mind blowing experience I was hoping for, it much more reminded me of a blowjob you get from a woman you just started dating. She was dilligent, focused, and obviously wanted me to have a good time. Some deep throating, no teeth, slow, CIM. Total damage was 800 baht plus 200 baht tip. She was very appreciative of the tip, and overall I left feeling satisfied, but I am not rearing to get back again anytime soon.

I have also strolled Soi 4 / Nana multiple times so far at peak hours, and there are definitely some cute ones out there but overall I was a bit dissapointed in what I saw. Definitely some decent talent, but nothing to compell me to talk to one and seal the deal. Maybe the talent is better as it gets closer to the weekend. We shall see, but if you're looking for a 6, there's tons. I saw maybe one or two 7's and that was it. Just don't be an idiot and think 8's and 9's are going to be lined up on Soi 4, as that is kind of what I had built up in my mind, which I know is frankly stupid. Also be ready to have your arms unsolicitedly grabbed as you walk by the masses of them, which I fucking hate, but I suppose it helps them drum up business.

So much left to explore, and will report back with more info.

I am not sure if you didn't read the forum or what. Kasalong is total shit. If you want a better BJ bar experience go to Wood Bar.

As far as "strolling" goes that is yet another way to find subpar talent not pretty enough to work as a gogo girl. Sure you can prob find someone. But your def fishing in a much muddier pond.

[MohdirFan82]

My first visit to Chengdu, Shanghai, was 1998, Back then it was heaven. I remember picking up girls in Bars, Clubs, streets, malls everywhere.

Went back to China 2015 and it was whole different world. P4P is same price as US, no wonder Thailand, Vietnam, Philippines is full of Chinese mongers.

When mongers go out of country, it tell you something.

Also have something to do with my age, and confidence and looks, back then it was whole different world.

The answer is fewer expats. Since 2012 the amount of expats in China (and tourists) have steady declined. I have seen estimates that the expat population is about 10% of what it was in 2012. There used to be bars that catered to expat and tourists, they are almost all gone now. The price of sex is about the same. 2000 RMB would get you longtime with a pretty girl and my understanding is that is still true. Now finding a girl is not easy. By the way 2000 RMB equals about $300 US. That is why I no longer bother with China.

[AggieDad1]

Is the price higher in China now? Or is it something else? Please elaborate.

Thanks,
~BKK

The answer is fewer expats. Since 2012 the amount of expats in China (and tourists) have steady declined. I have seen estimates that the expat population is about 10% of what it was in 2012. There used to be bars that catered to expat and tourists, they are almost all gone now. The price of sex is about the same. 2000 RMB would get you longtime with a pretty girl and my understanding is that is still true. Now finding a girl is not easy. By the way 2000 RMB equals about $300 US. That is why I no longer bother with China.

[EihTooms]

"Tooms, it sounds like you've had a rougher go of it in that area than I have. Maybe it's luck, timing, or just a difference in approach, but my night was exactly what I wanted good company, great vibe, and no drama. I get that Soi 7 has its share of 'drinks only' girls, but that wasn't my experience this last time and once before. I did have that same experience a few other times though. However, I seem to have a knack for knowing what battles to take on. I can sense the drinks only girls the same as you, but I can also sense bullshit too. Those cute and sexy drinks only girls use that as an excuse to not go with a customer if they don't want to for many reasons. They don't like them. They know the price will be too low for them or they can't speak English so don't have enough confidence. If I had to guess, my Thai ability was the main reasons in both cases that I took girls from Soi 7. Both were new girls fresh from Isaan or the south of Thailand. They didnt speak much English either. The first one only stayed three weeks and was gone as she couldn't make her drink quota because she couldn't communicate with the customers. There was a third girl from the smaller corner bar that I never asked to go with me. I would just go to drink with her once and a while waiting for Nana plaza or Soi Cowboy to open. She set off my drink only girl radar right from the start and confirmed that after my 2nd visit. Not too soon after that she was asking me to bar fine her. I never went back to drink with her because I could sense she was playing the long game with me to find someone to support her. I just pay a more than reasonable amount to get what I want and I am generous when it comes to buying lady drinks. I like to drink and mess around with the girls in the bars, play my own music and have fun before the main event.

So, in the end I have had two good experiences there with girls who originally implied they don't go with customers. Both were cute, 21-22 years old, and I took that as a challenge. Ended up taking both of them. What I can say helped was my Thai language ability, my 'who cares' attitude about how much I spend, and just keeping things no drama. I didn't hand them a script they had to agree to for sex beforehand, nothing like that. In fact, nothing was really discussed other than a rough idea of how much I might pay. In one of the two cases, no amount of money was ever even mentioned casually or indirectly. Both encounters were BBFS CIP too. A lot of my encounters go this way. In fact the most recent girl wont leave me alone. She messages me everyday asking for me to go to meet her in Ramkamhang. She does not work everyday apparently.

Either way, if it's not working for you in Soi 7, no harm in moving on. Plenty of other spots in Bangkok where the right chemistry can still lead to a proper good time. ".

By the way, you are right. The regular girls working there everyday are either cute, hot and sexy but claim drinks only or they are not doable. I have gone there 20 times or so and only pulled twice with an option to pull a third time which I declined. Soi 7 is for sure not a given when it comes to bar fining a girl for sex. The odds are definitely not in our favor when it comes to readily available cute and sexy girls to fuck. However, if you know how to play the game, dont care too much about your budget and can speak some Thai, you will do alright. The issue is most guys are tourists and dont want to deal with this kind of thing. For this reason, Soi 7 will never be the go to place for true mongers including myself. The reason I posted this time was to show an example of what a perfect night should be in Bangkok. These types of perfect nights seem to be few and far between these days. Nothing like it was even 5 years ago.

I agree that it could be timing or approach. But after all these years and devoting significant time to just relaxing, having fun, drinks, Thai language basics, at least enough to get some laughs out of them and so on, I believe the determining factor for me is pure luck. The wheel just spins and my ball (s) just happens to land on the right number on a given night. In that particular group of beer bars on Soi 7, that is.

In other venues such as Nana Plaza gogo bars, "luck" is not nearly the critical factor in whether or not I wind up having Real Sex with an attractive girl from there as it is in other venues.

I would also classify Thermae as one of those Pure Luck venues. In fact, I might have blown my wad of "Luck" for the entire year with that cute face and sweet body young lady I took from there a week or two ago who agreed upfront to Real Sex / DFK, BBBJ +BBFSCIP with me. I posted a FR about it here. Anyway, something like that at Thermae is so rare for me I don't expect the 2nd Lucky Lightning Strike like that to happen again in Thermae for a couple of years at least. LOL.

Yet, eternal optimist that I am, I still stop into those Soi 7 beer bars and Thermae every so often just to see if the ball will land on the winning number this night. But usually not.

[Amadeuss]

Is the price higher in China now? Or is it something else? Please elaborate.

You are a senior member here. Did you miss the reports of police raids all over the country? It was a little paradise across the border from Hongkong with wild parties and masses of girls fresh from the farm in 2000. But it became too famous and the government did a total stop on it, also on the few good monger bars / discos in Beijing and Shanghai.

Nowadays the mongering scene to us foreigners is mediocre.

[BHawk]

My first mongering event in life was in Bangkok over 30 years ago and I've been mongering ever since. Regarding Thailand I feel many places that used to be good have gone south, but Bangkok has managed to be superbly while also developing new strengths.

A recent positive experience was Stocking Massage. Started by showering with the lady. Just a thorough shower. Then she put on a pair of black stockings. So there she was. A beautiful Thai lady, cute face, long straight black hair, fine natural be-cups, and black stockings. She instructed me that I could rip the stockings, which really turned me on. Started by a standing kissing session that lasted quite a while, during which I fondled her nice ass, kissed her breasts and made sure her vulva was continuously engaged by either my leg, hand or fingers. I must say her kissing was second to none.

Got her down on the bed. I was tremendously horny. Ripped the stockings by the crotch and went down on her. She had a nice Bush and tasted excellent. Nice BBJ and then I could not control myself and fucked her in several positions with stockings on. Came over her body and breasts.

Recommended. I also appreciated the entrance. No door, just slip in and up the stairs.

stockingmassage.com

[Interstella]

So, first time in Bangkok, and wanted to give a short report of what I have seen so far:

I had to check out one of the BJ bars despite the negative reviews I've read. As I approached Kasalong from a side street off of Soi 4, I could instantly tell that the talent working there was not up to any standard I would even remotely consider for full service. But I was ready to go, and had a pretty good idea of what to expect, so I did it anyway. There were maybe 3 or 4 women working at the time, and honestly they were all 5's at best. Anyway, I chose the one who seemed to have a plucky attitude, big smile, and adequate breasts. Within 3 minutes I'm upstairs and she's washing my dick and balls in a semi-sketchy private room, and then you sit on a little leather couch with a towel under you. She got to work instantly, and while it wasn't the pro-level, mind blowing experience I was hoping for, it much more reminded me of a blowjob you get from a woman you just started dating. She was dilligent, focused, and obviously wanted me to have a good time. Some deep throating, no teeth, slow, CIM. Total damage was 800 baht plus 200 baht tip. She was very appreciative of the tip, and overall I left feeling satisfied, but I am not rearing to get back again anytime soon.

I have also strolled Soi 4 / Nana multiple times so far at peak hours, and there are definitely some cute ones out there but overall I was a bit dissapointed in what I saw. Definitely some decent talent, but nothing to compell me to talk to one and seal the deal. Maybe the talent is better as it gets closer to the weekend. We shall see, but if you're looking for a 6, there's tons. I saw maybe one or two 7's and that was it. Just don't be an idiot and think 8's and 9's are going to be lined up on Soi 4, as that is kind of what I had built up in my mind, which I know is frankly stupid. Also be ready to have your arms unsolicitedly grabbed as you walk by the masses of them, which I fucking hate, but I suppose it helps them drum up business.

So much left to explore, and will report back with more info.

[BKKguru]

<snip> China used to be good but those days are long gone. <snip>

Is the price higher in China now? Or is it something else? Please elaborate.

Thanks,
~BKK