Bangkok Reports

[Werqweq]

Even though one knows the masseuse is going to fuck, it's still sort of cool to imagine I'm with a straight masseuse and wind up convincing her to have sex.

I recommend a walk down soi 22 if that is what you like. For regular massage where the shops are organized such that you can select the girl / woman yourself (rather than book at a reception counter and have no idea who will do the massage), and with enough shops and women that one is likely to find someone cute / pretty enough, this is my favourite soi. HJ is a given as long as you pay the extra (500, though they will ask for more), BJ is common enough, but the younger / prettier will either demand 2,000 or take some convincing to get down to 1,000. Sex with the younger / prettier ones also doable most of the time, but takes some convincing if you don't want to pay too much (2000 will be accepted, 1000, maybe not).

As long as you don't disgust her too much and do not seem to desperate, 1000 is my standard price for sex if negotiating, though I've been forced to pay up to 2,000. If they do not bring up money, but just go with the flow and let me fuck them, I tip them 2,000. I know 2000 is the rate they're usually accepting sex for at these shops, even if they may ask for more if they think you look stupid enough (apparently there are days where I look more stupid than usual), and thus I'd feel bad to give anything less if they "trusted" me enough to let me fuck them without bringing up money beforehand. I don't at all mind negotiating it down to a 1,000 though, as long as we both know the score. I'm guessing about 20% did not bring up the money and just let me fuck them, sometimes not even mentioning it as I was exiting, where I slipped it to them as a normal massage tip.

There are girls from 19 year old and up here who I've banged, though most women working here are in the 30-35 year range I guess. Since most of them are sitting outside the shop, or immediately next to the entrance inside, you choose the one you want.

Most of these shops are immediately before and after the big Marriot hotel, 4-5 on each side, though there are also two shops on the right handside at the start of the soi, but the prices at these two are more expensive, both for the massage and the BJ (one girl there seemed to think she was doing me a big favour by blowing me for only 1,000). Beware that one of these two, the one furthest from the start of the soi, is manned by mostly ladyboys though.

Soi 23, one of the exits / entrances to Soi cowboy has somewhat similar shops, and there sex is almost a given at most shops I'd think, but quality of women is considerably lower, so I rarely looked there. Have seen some pretty ones there too, but it's very rare. Usually I would not want more than a BJ at these shops, and the few times I've gone there they seemed surprised I was offering 1,000 for the BJ (or sex if I wanted), so I'm thinking I'll just offer 500 next time. Problem is I rarely saw anyone I'd like to get a massage from there (plus a subsequent BJ). Always gives me a kind of slum vibe, both the shops and the staff, as well as the street.

Anyway, I'd only go to these places (soi 22/ soi 23) if my intention was to get a decent thai massage from a decent looking girl / woman, which may or may not be followed by a BJ or sex, depending on the girl and my wallet. If you're going to feel you wasted two hours on a thai massage if it did not end in sex, rather than had some of the most relaxing time in the world at the cost of 1/10 of what I'd have to pay at home for thai massage or sports massage, it's not the place as the girls here are selling massage (often with a HJ), not pussy.

[Koryu]

Hey guys,

I've been connecting with a lot of freelancers on ThaiFriendly. But it's usually a hit or miss. I found girl who offered st for 1500, and if I wanted CIM anal it's 500 extra. BUT if I wanted BBFS another 500.

Now the price doesn't concern me, but just the willingness to so quickly go BB kinda scared me.

I'm not experienced much going BB, and never with a working girl. But. I really do wan't to try it. I'm just not sure how risky these girls are. This one kinda felt like a red flag because she offered without me asking.

What are your guys' thoughts?

Do many / any of you go BB with working girls? Had any. Issues?

[NRandom940]

I've just came back from a week in Bangkok. Stayed on Soi 11 at an Airbnb. The Hyde. I didn't have to go far as right outside the front door I met 2 different Vietnamese Girls who looked quite ok. Both charged 2000 baht for the sessions. BBBJ was given without enquiring but only did CFS. Given that I got charged 3000 baht at a massage plus establishment around the corner. I should have saved myself the walk. NB Both were BYO condom. I heard they were cracking down on foreign girls in Pattaya around the time I was there.

You mean they were street walkers? Were the attractive?

[Mr Enternational]

Yeah I think the "asians / Japanese only" thing is a misconception. If you look even halfway presentable (well-groomed + not wearing a Chang singlet or cargo shorts & flip flops), my experience is that almost any shop there is excited to have you. Treat it as if going to a gentleman's club and you won't go wrong.

Would they prefer me coming in dressed up with no money, or wearing what I want with a pocket full of money to spend?

[Mr Enternational]

Another guy posted here not long ago about doing something similar with normal, non p4p-girls, and having success with that. Choose some cute enough girl at 7-11 or whatever. Cute enough to want to bang, but not so pretty that she has guys fawning over her every day, or even every month. Then treat her to an extravagant date, like a rich guy with little game would treat a model I imagine, and at the end of the night, see her being so flattered with all the attention and money spent on her that she wants to please him in every possible way. Not my cup of tea (I don't like spending money on people I don't already know and like), but I can imagine how that could work with many decent girls.

I guess I have not always had enough money to throw it around like that. I am used to getting chicks with my personality without having to try to impress them by what I spend. When it comes to chicks that are not hookers, I prefer finding one that wants to fuck me instead of fuck my money.

[Neville62]

I've just came back from a week in Bangkok. Stayed on Soi 11 at an Airbnb. The Hyde. I didn't have to go far as right outside the front door I met 2 different Vietnamese Girls who looked quite ok. Both charged 2000 baht for the sessions. BBBJ was given without enquiring but only did CFS. Given that I got charged 3000 baht at a massage plus establishment around the corner. I should have saved myself the walk. NB Both were BYO condom. I heard they were cracking down on foreign girls in Pattaya around the time I was there.

[JohnnyBoy3212]

I've been in Bangkok for about a year and my itch is beginning to drive me nuts! I'm from the West Coast where girls are plenty and speak my language but its a bit different here.

I want to find girls that are very much my type (small tits, short as hell, petite, and preferably no tats.) Being a taken man, I can't really invest time to go around all these spots to find exactly what I want without raising suspicion.

Does anyone know of any agencies or local Thai men who offer this as a service? Where they can assist me in finding some hidden gems and delicious local cuisines if you know what I mean.

Appreciate any advice given, have a safe day gents.

[Larbmoo555]

My experience has been mamasans from various venues on Thaniya Road have approached me alone or whatever non Asian buddy I happen to be walking by with at the time and implored us to come inside, choose a girl, yes the girls will go to a hotel with me, essentially every detail you cited in terms of costs and options since years before Covid, immediately after Covid and ever since.

I just think they have been more open to engaging with non Asian customers for much longer than many of us have been led to believe. Oh, not every venue. But several. I assume the ones whose mamasans never bother to approach or say anything as I passed by know their girls prefer to keep it Asian-centric. But I can't say there are better looking or younger lineups in front of those shops. They all seem similar to me.

I believe this misconception about all those venues being "Japanese only" or "Asian only" is perpetuated by the Thai tuk tuk drivers stationed in the area armed with brochures wanting to sell us on the idea of them taking us to another location where "farang ok" and where they will get a kick-back from the shop for taking us there.

You brought up the, to me, all-important issues of BBBJCIM and BBFS (CIP?) in that it is a no-no to ask the mamasan which girls are up for either or both. Am I reading between the lines that one or both has been an objective of yours on occasion as well and that the topics were broached by you with the girls privately? If so, how did it go? Have you experienced a high, medium or low success rate in getting the girls you chose to go along with either or both? Or has the answer been an adamant no every time and for any amount of extra money?

Thanks in advance for any further intel you can provide about this.

For me, if there isn't going to be BBFSCIP on offer at any cost or BBBJCIM at a reasonable additional cost, I would just as soon skip the whole thing and save my money for girls who will.

Honestly, your report might be the first I can recall of any punter here stating that he got sex of any kind, fully covered or not, at any of those Thaniya Road venues. LOL. That is one of the reasons I never accepted the offer from those aggressive mamasans to come inside and choose a girl if the only thing that would happen is I would be laying out some 5,000 - 7,000 baht inexcange for booze, which I don't care about, and a No Real Sex or No CIM Finish Blowjob buzzkill.

Yeah I think the "asians / Japanese only" thing is a misconception. If you look even halfway presentable (well-groomed + not wearing a Chang singlet or cargo shorts & flip flops), my experience is that almost any shop there is excited to have you. Treat it as if going to a gentleman's club and you won't go wrong.

Most girls I've had from Thaniya did BBBJ at no extra charge. CIM I am less sure about as I usually prefer to finish with a hard pounding in doggystyle, but I have had a few do CIM when I've had trouble finishing. Definitely not guaranteed though nor is BBBJ. I generally ask the girl about BBBJ within the first hour of drinking, figure I have a higher chance at success if they know me first (I. E. , that I'm not batshit crazy & I live nearby so chances of repeat business are high for the right girl). I choose a girl that's pretty enough that even if only CBJ is on offer, I still consider it a good night. CIP I don't do as I've not been snipped yet, hopefully this year. After meeting a girl for 2-3 times I will ask for BBFS. Not just on Thaniya but in general. It's maybe a 25% success rate, sometimes at no charge, sometimes +1000. If a girl allows BBFS she becomes a regular. If not, I get bored of girls after 2-3 times anyways, so not much motivation to meet again without that benefit.

I think the best introduction to Thaniya is probably Trendy One. Very welcoming mama-san & owner that speak English, and on Friday / Saturday nights there are 30+ girls in sexy uniform. The best part is that they wear colored badges letting you know whether they will go ST or LT (no badge = girl decides on a case by case basis), makes everything very easy. Look up the building on google maps and go out front asking for Trendy, someone will guide you. Hidden gem of a place, in my opinion. Best to rent a private room there as it's not expensive (700 baht / hour?? Can't remember), but not necessary.

Friday was actually my monthly Thaniya session, went to Show Me, a line-up of around 15 girls, picked a 22-year old spinner from Laos, very pretty face & white skin (was surprised when she told me she's from Laos). First non-Thai I've met on Thaniya. And first girl from Laos I met that can deepthroat LOL. 2 hours drinking + ST was 6500 baht so again, not a super budget friendly place, but occasionally I like to mix things up rather than just sticking to my usual rotation which is thermae, t-ded, and patpong.

[Nyezhov]

Correction on my part. I did say ST, but guess what? Many are quoted 4-5 K for ST for the high side. The low side is accurate too. WHO CARES !!!!

Accurate information is important. Why don't you tell the board what the owner of the Thermae looks like? You must know who he is since you go there so much.

[Werqweq]

Did you even read your own post? It seems your dogshit negotiation tactic failed way before the hotel. If you see a for sale sign on something, do you just walk up and blurt out a price to the person selling it? She may have only wanted 2000, had you bothered to ask.

I think his intention was to be overly generous and hope the girl would reciprocate likewise. I guess it could work with some girls, but my bet was that was not going to work out as hoped, and he'd just end up paying twice of everyone else here for the same service. Still, it's cool to see people trying different things and post how it worked out.

Another guy posted here not long ago about doing something similar with normal, non p4p-girls, and having success with that. Choose some cute enough girl at 7-11 or whatever. Cute enough to want to bang, but not so pretty that she has guys fawning over her every day, or even every month. Then treat her to an extravagant date, like a rich guy with little game would treat a model I imagine, and at the end of the night, see her being so flattered with all the attention and money spent on her that she wants to please him in every possible way. Not my cup of tea (I don't like spending money on people I don't already know and like), but I can imagine how that could work with many decent girls.

[Mr Enternational]

Yeah, there are female hookers standing outside on the road there too. With enough experience, easy enough to see who's who, and if not, once they start moving or talking, it's even more obvious.

Exactly. Just shake their hand or get them to talk. A guy's hand is nothing like a lady's and a guy's voice is nothing like a lady's either. They will try to change their voice which could not be more obvious.

[CCRider1008]

It's a nonsense only for newbies. The word "massage" in these shops names is just a cover to not openly advertise as a brothel. I would estimate not even 10% of the girls working in these places know how to give a good massage, followed by a good transition to the sex part. The massage is either there to waste time or be used as a cover only. Never ever take the Nuru option in these places, Nuru seems to be properly done only in very few places (Mitu, Dokidoki and Aries it seems). In every other places, it is available at a higher price but it is pure bullshit. None of these girls have been trained to give these kind of massage. As a general rule, always take the cheapest option available in these places (depending on the duration you chose), because you're just paying more and getting nothing in return once in the room. These places are basically a place you go to smash a girl and then move on. These two places cited in the post you quoted are good places, but the OP was expecting something they usually don't do.

Well, a newbie I can assure you I am not. However, in the 5 trips to BKK I can affirm not focusing much on the massage places. I do however want to experience a real nuru done properly. So will research the 3 places you mentioned. Even though one knows the masseuse is going to fuck, it's still sort of cool to imagine I'm with a straight masseuse and wind up convincing her to have sex. Last year on way back to hotel from muay thai training I pass these small alley way massage places. And a few always tried to solicit me with "hey muay thai man" and the like. Well after one day I took one of them up on it. It was more of a BJ / HJ place, but she wound up fucking and the build up was enjoyable.

[Werqweq]

So, uh, yeah, going to dial it back a few notches. Thing I came into this city with an attitude that needs to be nocked down a few pegs, and for good reason. I'll leave a short field report to explain.

So, I waltz into Thermae last night earlyish, around 9:30, and there are not suprisingly less people there than the previous weekend nights I had checked it out closer to midnight. I head to the counter to grab a coke, tip the waiter 20 baht with my change, and he's super appreciative yet once again. I'm sure the local Thai people can forgive us westerners for our tipping culture, it's too late for us at this point in that regard. Anyway I start doing the ol' clockwise loops to see what women are willing to make eye contact with me and which aren't. Of course there's a gaggle of older ones trying depserately to meet my stare as I'm searching for a bit of a younger bird than my own age. After doing multiple loops I just can't shake the feeling I get when I look at this one tiny exotic looking thing. She looks like what I imagine Melville saw when shored on the Marquesas and lived with the Tai Pi people for a few months hundreds of years ago. She smiled at me on every loop. Strangely enough, I would only rate her a 6 by universal standards, but she had a 7 face for sure, and her hair was perfect, like movie star, perfect. She also had a certain ineffable quality, let's say. The face of innnocence itself. I walk up to her like a towering dope, and sign a "4" with my hands to signal 4 K, and she just kinda looks at me and says "what?" She speaks english. Not perfect english, but she speaks english. So I said "4,000 Baht" not even Hello, just that, and she was like "okay, you want me to go with you?" I said yes, and then, again, like a dope, I introduce myself and then we both start to make our way to the door after I inform her of which hotel we are heading towards..

LOL. I was curious to see how you would fare after reading your intentions.

Cool and honest report. I enjoyed reading it. Some suggestions, if I may:

1) Say hello, first. I mean, just normal politeness, no?

2) You're not buying bbq-ed chicken liver at a street food cart, where four fingers would indicate four sticks of bbq-ed liver on a stick if all the guy is selling from his cart is bbq-ed liver on a stick. I've only been to Thermae once (last January), but 4 k could just as well be your offer for long-time, as a newbies offer for st. The time I went there I offered 2500 to the first girl I liked, as I didn't remember if reading here that the going rate for st was 2500 or 3000, and 2500 was what I paid her.

3) Don't drag some girl out of there if you're later on going to kick her out for insisting on condom for sex. I'd reject her if she insisted on condom for BJ, as that's not normal, but condom for sex is the normal thing, and if she lets you fuck her without condom, for more money or because she thinks you're ok, that's up to her.
Giving her 1,000 just for the trip before kicking her out sounds decent, and one can imagine if she does that twice every hour, after three hours she'll have 6,000 for nothing more than sitting on her ass in a taxi, so she should be more than happy, but she's not going to see it that way, as you found out. More than decent of you to then give her the remaining 3,000 though, and happy you ended up with a good experience anyway.

Will be looking forward to your next report. Live and learn.

[Werqweq]

Not sure that I agree with this comment about all of them being obvious. I agree that nearly all within 10 meters are ladyboys, but there are some genetic females in that same area and some that I just don't know. Even though I gave plenty of advanced warning, one of my friends learned in the hotel that he had a ladyboy on his first visit to Bangkok. I'm extremely cautious of any freelancer that I take anywhere in Thailand. I always ask prior to committing with a freelancer and then I glance at ID before giving to my hotel reception.

Yeah, there are female hookers standing outside on the road there too. With enough experience, easy enough to see who's who, and if not, once they start moving or talking, it's even more obvious. This is what I guess N. means by them being obvious, but when new in Thailand, it's scary, and what's obvious to him may not be obvious to others.

I erred on the cautious side myself when young and liking to go clubbing, but months later I was pretty sure I rejected some prime pussy in the disco because I was still new and couldn't always tell for sure who's who. Girls insisting they were real girls, but me still being unsure. Later I found out I could just have asked to see their ID, which all thai people carry with them, and which will say mister or misses.

What did your friend do?

[Werqweq]

But I think plenty of guys after a cup of coffee is them telling fairy tales.

Better believe it. I always assume we're going to my place later. Sometimes we do, and sometimes we don't, so it's always interesting for me to see what happens.

I remember one funny story from a year or two ago when I, on the way back from gym and dinner, impromptu met a 19 year old thaifriendly girl at terminal 21 at closing time. Line-ed here to ask where she was when I arrived, she said she'd gone to the bathroom at location x, so I waited outside there. She came out, we talked for a minute or two, but since it was already 10 pm and terminal 21 was closing, we walked out, and then just continued walking. After some minutes she asked where we're going, and I told her my place. After 10 more minutes she laughed and said she didn't know why she was walking with me.

BTS-ed with her back to terminal 21 for lunch next day, which also had the benefit of her, on a later date, introducing me to my new favourite thai restaurant there, after the previous one (staffed by burmese, some of you may know it), where we ate that day, apparently won some tripadvisor award some years ago. Post-covid19 it now always has a queue of riff-raff waiting for a table, but fortunately the other one serves the same type of food, or better according to the girl, but has considerably less tourists, and rarely any queue.