Bangkok Reports

[Interstella]

So, I gots some questions as to the pricing with Soi 4 walkers, and of course, me looking like a 6 foot plus stork walking around like the most obvious tourist you've ever seen. Still dressed to impress and clean cut, but I know what I look like and the sort of response it gets with these ladies (let's drain this bozo of his money).

Anyhoo, I am get quoted, the exact same amount from these Soi 4 girls that I weed out as looking just as good as the ones I find in Thermae, but they are also quoting me the same exact number I get quoted in Thermae! 3 K for short time. It's not a bad deal, but I here you guys are left and right pulling these honeys for 1,500 Baht. I'm not a bargain hunter and don't like to haggle, so it's not the end of the world, but are these Soi 4 sweeties just taking me for a ride with the 3 K request?

Short field report. Upon returning to Soi 4 many nights to see what was out and about I recant my previous opinion that there isn't talent worth taking from there. The first one was vietnamese, early 20's, tiny frame, enhanced breasts (why do they ALL have to have fake boobs, just keep your A sized boobs, you weigh 100 pounds for the love of god you look fine! So she had some large be salad bowls bolted on, which again is disappointing when the clothes come off. Maybe I will start requesting a short and discreet squeeze of the goods for 50 Baht before I consider taking one next time, I digress. I requested BBFS, and she agreed somewhat reluctantly, but asked that I finish outside, which is fine. I will say that little hotel that's 300 baht is not my favorite place to go inside, but its whatevs. We shower up real quick, she gives me a blowjob to the degree I'm assuming she's never watched porn before AT ALL, anyway, who cares because the main course is coming up. Haha, I'm getting all excited typing this just thinking about it, plowing away in that sweet ravine as god intended, and then unfortunately withdrawing to blast as god did not intend, LOL. Perfect session. Total damage 3 K, plus 300 for the room, and I let her keep the 700 Baht in change. She was a serious cutie, so I felt I got my moneys worth.

Second girl I took, who knows what nationality, probably Thai, don't really care. Early 20's, again probably 100 pounds, light skinned, and again you guessed it: 3 K Baht requested right out of the gate and I just don't have it in me to haggle with a young sweet thing over 45 USD extra over market value as discussed here (1500 Baht). So off we go to that hotel I'm not a fan of for 300 baht, (whatever, maybe that's just the dumb tourist price don't' care). This one wants to use a condom, I offered 1000 baht extra but she declined, so I let her blow me raw for an extra long time (by that I mean 5 minutes for me, haha) then I suited up and pumped away. She was cool with the whole hand on the throat jazz, which I'm super into, and she was like a champ trying to getting into any position I wanted as fast as possible. I guess that probably behooves her in her line of work, "let's get this guy to cum as quick as possible. " A very nice girl, she took care of me. So again 3 K Baht, 300 for the hotel, and to her the 700 in change.

If I was still in a hotel close to Thermae, I would just keep going there honestly, but I really wanted to explore as many avenues as possible here, "street meat" being one of them. I still can't bring myself to enjoy the Soi Cowboy, Crazy House, etc. Model of taking women. I fucking hate it. I tried to walk up to a girl on Soi Cowboy and basically just say, hey you're fucking hot let's do this, some woman comes over who I guess was the "mamasan" or whatever, and was just seemingly doing everything in her power to not communicate well and throw a wrench in my plan of trying to pay a sex worker for money, like seriuosly, god damn. I'll pay the fucking barfine, I'll pay for some drinks I won't even drink, whatever, "I want boom boom with you" - hot girl nods yes. Mamasan is just completely confused by this and I tell her "I pay, how much, go inside?" "Barfine how much?" Hot girl is obviously not free to make her own decisions despite her grabbing my arm and stopping me to say Hello, to her. I literally got my wad of money out like a fucking chump and was like "have money, will pay" and mamasan is again just not doing anything to usher my very obvious request into a financially beneficial situation for her and this poor girl who missed out. Where did I go wrong, I dunno, but Soi Cowboy just seems like an unecessary shit show for me at least. I've got shit to do. I want to find a girl, offer her some money, shower up, fuck, shower again, say a quick goodbye while we both dress with some light chit-chat, and be on my way. I suppose that's not happening there. Ugh, I'm ranting again.

[Interstella]

Humans fuck and they do it without condoms. What difference would it make if you fucked a hooker the first time without a condom or the 30th time? She is not your personal hooker. She has other customers too.

For the love of all that is holy, humans fuck, and this whole world spins forward by humans continuing to fuck without condoms. I coudn't agree more! A man should never have to defend or equivocate why he wants, and in my opinion NEEDS, to dump loads in a wet vagina, it's a primal biological drive, end of discussion. So to any forum members who have a problem with it, I dunno, you do you, and I'll keep being a human being while you sip on your copium.

Couldn't agree with Mr. Enternational more here. EVERY woman allows a guy to bareback her at somepoint, only question is will it be you under your current set of cicrcumstances. Don't fool yourself, you've gone on a date with a civillian woman at somepoint who made you wear a condom (happens to us all) only to let a "Chad" fuck her raw the next night knowing she won't ever hear from him again. Most women think some 10/10 billionaire prince charming is what they deserve, and are stupidly waiting for. I'm a bit of a misogynist I suppose, but I would just call it being a realist. When it comes to paying women for BBFS however, I try to be very respectful, I refuse to try and strong arm a woman into BBFS with money. I will offer extra money if she initially declines BBFS, but if I can tell she is under any sort of duress I drop the topic or session. Same goes for the CIP thing, that's what I want, but like I'm not going to demand it in an ungentlemanly fashion.

There's always a delay to my posts due to being needed to be "reviewed," but I made a post about how essentially as an elder-millenial, and previous generations as well, we were flat out LIED to as to the risks and probability of pregnancy and contraction of diseases with unprotected sex. I was basically taught you will one hundred percent get a woman pregnant on the first time of unportected sex, and if someone has an STD you will one hundred percent catch it from a single encounter. I was taught this in sex ed as a child. It's fucking abusive to mislead a developing mind that way. I'm not saying go out there and bareback everything in sight, let me tell yah having Chlamydia and Gonorhea at the same time fucking sucked (only thing I've gotten in years of mongering,) but I deserved it dumping a load into a rough looking but hot little number from Talisay. Just live your life man, and accept the consequences, it's all random, and it's scary, but don't waste it listening to the chatter of your youth. End rant, haha.

[EverythingThai]

Last night I hit up a little karaoke bar in my neighborhood geared towards Thai men. Let me tell you, it was well worth it. So next time some of you expats are strolling around in your neighborhood and you see a small bar or karaoke, go in and check it out. You may find a gem. I got my bill at the end of the night for 4000 Baht. This included the use of the VIP room, a bottle of red label and the company of 2 sexy ladies who took care of me very well for 4 hours. It was like a mini Pattaya gents club in da room. Love it!

[EverythingThai]

White and Brown dudes looking lost at Thermae is funny. I was there 3-4 times last year and never really noticed the crowd I was just focused on the girl pool, and was never there more then 10-15 minutes as I found what I wanted and off we go. If I go this trip I'll have to go slower and just observe. I do like your directness and I agree it's best at Thermae. The one time I wasn't entirely clear upfront about what I was looking with a girl from Thermae it was an argument on services. Totally kills the mood.

I'm staying at JW in nana in few weeks and need some variety from past trips. I'm not a big gogo guy as its too hyped, transactional and commercialized. T-Ded sounds like more like overall better time for gogo. But I'm reading it's not really for farang's on holiday. Mostly all thai guys. True? I speak only basic thai words like "Hello," "thank you"; and don't need thai guys harassing me as a white guy going to their bar. Also wondering how far from soi 4 by taxi. Says 8 miles but that can be an hour + in BKK.

More and more foreign guys are going into T-Ded 99 these days. Ask for Khun Nut and Aimelss also has a guy there that helps him. Your first visit there will a little overwhelming but once you get used to the culture shock, you will end up loving it.

Here are some ideas to change up your routine for your next trip.

1. T-Ded 99.

2. Patpong go go bars.

3. Clubs like Mixx and Levels.

4. Bars and massage on Soi 22.

5. The pimp club.

6. Massage places on Ratchada and Rama 9.

7. RCA bars and massage.

8. Thonglor Soi 10 clubs.

9. Massage shops on Soi 23.

These are all places not talked about too much on ISG. T-Ded is now getting a lot of traction though.

I know how you feel about the usual haunts getting old. Soi 4, nana plaza, Thermae, and Soi Cowboy. Same shit different day.

[EverythingThai]

Gentlemen,

For anyone that I have offeneded, I duly apologize. Especially EverythingThai. I essentially suffered a great familial loss while on this trip, and sort have been bouncing back and forth between this hostile and irritable monster, and then the down-trodden feeling, or "black dog. " The switches are rapid. I know this is a forum of sharing reports and will try my best to stick to that. I thought maybe I could kind of drown this loss by getting out there and trying to make the best of the trip and coming here and posting a bunch to get my mind off of things. Anyway, its inexcusable to be throwing around basesless accusations on a platform where people can't defend themselves in person. I can't say it won't happen again, as my black dog comes and goes as it pleases, as does the irritable, hostile, monster. I'm almost done here in Bangkok, and I believe my next adventure will be something like Azerbaijan, the home of my people so many thousands of years ago. Then I can actually start lending some "real" reports, like "going where no man has gone before, haha" Anyhoo, there it is, that's my apology and thanks for all of your help on this adventure. And believe you me, one day I will find a Stella, and I will enter her.

Thank you, and best regards.

No need to apologize mate. Crack on. I personally really like your reports. Especially on thermae. You struggled it the start and now you navigate it as a pro. Keep reporting and commenting.

[Interstella]

Gentlemen,

For anyone that I have offeneded, I duly apologize. Especially EverythingThai. I essentially suffered a great familial loss while on this trip, and sort have been bouncing back and forth between this hostile and irritable monster, and then the down-trodden feeling, or "black dog. " The switches are rapid. I know this is a forum of sharing reports and will try my best to stick to that. I thought maybe I could kind of drown this loss by getting out there and trying to make the best of the trip and coming here and posting a bunch to get my mind off of things. Anyway, its inexcusable to be throwing around basesless accusations on a platform where people can't defend themselves in person. I can't say it won't happen again, as my black dog comes and goes as it pleases, as does the irritable, hostile, monster. I'm almost done here in Bangkok, and I believe my next adventure will be something like Azerbaijan, the home of my people so many thousands of years ago. Then I can actually start lending some "real" reports, like "going where no man has gone before, haha" Anyhoo, there it is, that's my apology and thanks for all of your help on this adventure. And believe you me, one day I will find a Stella, and I will enter her.

Thank you, and best regards.

[Mr Enternational]

Do many of you go bb with the free lancers or other workers?

Or do you go bb after few visits with the same one?

I definitely can't but I want to know how common it is. I'm just worried of catching something even with protection, knowing my luck 😂 BBBJ are a necessity for me.

Humans fuck and they do it without condoms. What difference would it make if you fucked a hooker the first time without a condom or the 30th time? She is not your personal hooker. She has other customers too.

[TConor]

Check out street girls on Soi 4 Jan 2025.

Anything your heart desires, 1,500 Bahts.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPRIR2P5CdU

Any close by recommendations. What's it look like between noon and 3 pm?

[Nyezhov]

Bud, I'm going to have to disagree as to my experience as a western white dude who has gone to Thermae 5 nights in a row. I know your opinion reigns here, but I'm just not seeing how you could even sit in a single place or circle around and deduce that "only about 10% were acknowledging the western guys. " That ain't true in my experience, and I think it's a disingenuous survey of the situation there. I actually spoke to every woman I took from Thermae about this issue. Plenty are willing to go with white guys. Plenty of women there smiled back at me, as a 6 foot plus, well dressed, decent looking guy. Perspective is a funny thing, you have to be open that there is a limitation to what an observer can assess in an empirical approach to a social science observation. I would say that roughly 25% percent of the women there smiled back at me, and I would also say, the female species, not being known for their prowess in confrontation, being eye contact or whatever, had I stopped and talked to every woman there, I could probably swing leaving with 50 percent of what was available. I've known this 'secret" about ALL women for decades, just nut up and go and talk to them with zero fear, and watch what happens, because you never know till you try. Additionally, I find your depiction of "Crazy House" as an upscale establishment to be disingenous, and assume that you are a local guide with a kickback sort of setup. Which is fine. I mean no offense. That being said, I was told that black guys and Indian guys are going to have a difficult go of it at Thermae, from the women I spoke to directly on this issue. Not trying to subvert your opinion, just offering a little dissent with mine, because Thermae ain't no thing if you play your cards right.

Any non-asian or non-white dude in Thermae is going to have difficulty grabbing a girl.

90% of the girls there smile at me and I'm no prize. Any white guy that goes there is going to be smile that by 90% of the girls.

Your report is realistic, excellent and on point.

[EverythingThai]

I know your opinion reigns here.

Additionally, I find your depiction of "Crazy House" as an upscale establishment to be disingenous, and assume that you are a local guide with a kickback sort of setup. Which is fine. I mean no offense. That being said, I was told that black guys and Indian guys are going to have a difficult go of it at Thermae, from the women I spoke to directly on this issue. Not trying to subvert your opinion, just offering a little dissent with mine, because Thermae ain't no thing if you play your cards right.

With all due respect, my opinion definitely does not reign here.

Secondly, what are you going on about? In the post that you quoted me on, I said very clearly I never went into Crazy House as I had spent too much time there recently and I have never depicted it as an upscale establishment and the fact that you think I an a tour guide getting a kick back from Crazy House is laughable. I never even reported on it in the post you quoted me on and my previous reports on it never depicted it as an upscale establishment. Also I posted my observation on Thermae on one given night. Meaning that another person on a different night or even the same night may observe something different. Your post is very strange to me and I really don't even get what you are going going on about. Anyways, as I said before, I'm glad you are killing it at Theemae. Enjoy.

[CCRider1008]

Then it was time to head over to Thermae. I arrived at about 8:15 or so. Japanese guys amounted to about 70% of the customers there. 20% were other asians, such as Chinese or Koreans. The last 10% was made up of the odd western guy and a few Indians. The western and Indian guys looked like they were deers caught in headlights. They all looked lost. I never witnessed one western or Indian guy talking to a lady except for one white dude while I was there. About the girls. About 10% were acknowledging the western guys. The rest would not even make eye contact with them.

I was eying one of the girls in the back left corner by the back exit. Big tits, long black hair, white skin and a nice ass. I walked over and asked her how much for ST. She quoted me 4000 Baht. I said no condom is ok? She said 5000 Baht and we were off. For me, I don't like to fuck around.

Arriving a T-Ded 99 I noticed the sheer amount of pussy there that night. Two days before pay day when the Thai guys have no money, the place was dead. Very few Thai guys, some Chinese guys and two foreigners. My bro greets me and takes me to my usual table. I take a stroll along the back corridor where there were about 100 girls sitting. Chose two girls and took them back to my table. I ordered some beers, snack foods and one of the girls asked me to buy her a vape kit for 150 Baht. What then transpired over the next 3 hours was sheer craziness. Eating, drinking and fucking around grabbing ass and pussy and making out with both the girls. At this point I was ready for a second round. I chose my girl, cut the other one loose and I was was off to the hotel. The damage was 2600 baht for the drinks, food and the sitting fee for the two girls. 1000 Bhat tip for my bro, 2500 baht for the girl ST including the hotel and 1000 baht tip for my girl after the deed was done at the hotel. Great night again at T-Ded 99 that consisted of drinking, eating, fucking around with 2 at my table and 2 hours of BB sex with a Lao hottee.

White and Brown dudes looking lost at Thermae is funny. I was there 3-4 times last year and never really noticed the crowd I was just focused on the girl pool, and was never there more then 10-15 minutes as I found what I wanted and off we go. If I go this trip I'll have to go slower and just observe. I do like your directness and I agree it's best at Thermae. The one time I wasn't entirely clear upfront about what I was looking with a girl from Thermae it was an argument on services. Totally kills the mood.

I'm staying at JW in nana in few weeks and need some variety from past trips. I'm not a big gogo guy as its too hyped, transactional and commercialized. T-Ded sounds like more like overall better time for gogo. But I'm reading it's not really for farang's on holiday. Mostly all thai guys. True? I speak only basic thai words like "Hello," "thank you"; and don't need thai guys harassing me as a white guy going to their bar. Also wondering how far from soi 4 by taxi. Says 8 miles but that can be an hour + in BKK.

[EverythingThai]

Bud, I'm going to have to disagree as to my experience as a western white dude who has gone to Thermae 5 nights in a row. I know your opinion reigns here, but I'm just not seeing how you could even sit in a single place or circle around and deduce that "only about 10% were acknowledging the western guys. " That ain't true in my experience, and I think it's a disingenuous survey of the situation there. I actually spoke to every woman I took from Thermae about this issue. Plenty are willing to go with white guys. Plenty of women there smiled back at me, as a 6 foot plus, well dressed, decent looking guy. Perspective is a funny thing, you have to be open that there is a limitation to what an observer can assess in an empirical approach to a social science observation. I would say that roughly 25% percent of the women there smiled back at me, and I would also say, the female species, not being known for their prowess in confrontation, being eye contact or whatever, had I stopped and talked to every woman there, I could probably swing leaving with 50 percent of what was available. I've known this 'secret" about ALL women for decades, just nut up and go and talk to them with zero fear, and watch what happens, because you never know till you try. Additionally, I find your depiction of "Crazy House" as an upscale establishment to be disingenous, and assume that you are a local guide with a kickback sort of setup. Which is fine. I mean no offense. That being said, I was told that black guys and Indian guys are going to have a difficult go of it at Thermae, from the women I spoke to directly on this issue. Not trying to subvert your opinion, just offering a little dissent with mine, because Thermae ain't no thing if you play your cards right.

For the record I have not given any opinion here. It was what I witnessed that night when I was there.

[CCRider1008]

Check out street girls on Soi 4 Jan 2025.

Anything your heart desires, 1,500 Bahts.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPRIR2P5CdU

It looks like prison in USA. All girls segregate by race. Haha. Lots more Africans than I remember two years ago when I stayed at JW.

[Koryu]

Do many of you go bb with the free lancers or other workers?

Or do you go bb after few visits with the same one?

I definitely can't but I want to know how common it is. I'm just worried of catching something even with protection, knowing my luck 😂 BBBJ are a necessity for me.

[Interstella]

LOL. I was curious to see how you would fare after reading your intentions.

Cool and honest report. I enjoyed reading it. Some suggestions, if I may:

1) Say hello, first. I mean, just normal politeness, no?

2) You're not buying bbq-ed chicken liver at a street food cart, where four fingers would indicate four sticks of bbq-ed liver on a stick if all the guy is selling from his cart is bbq-ed liver on a stick. I've only been to Thermae once (last January), but 4 k could just as well be your offer for long-time, as a newbies offer for st. The time I went there I offered 2500 to the first girl I liked, as I didn't remember if reading here that the going rate for st was 2500 or 3000, and 2500 was what I paid her.

3) Don't drag some girl out of there if you're later on going to kick her out for insisting on condom for sex. I'd reject her if she insisted on condom for BJ, as that's not normal, but condom for sex is the normal thing, and if she lets you fuck her without condom, for more money or because she thinks you're ok, that's up to her.
Giving her 1,000 just for the trip before kicking her out sounds decent, and one can imagine if she does that twice every hour, after three hours she'll have 6,000 for nothing more than sitting on her ass in a taxi, so she should be more than happy, but she's not going to see it that way, as you found out. More than decent of you to then give her the remaining 3,000 though, and happy you ended up with a good experience anyway.

Will be looking forward to your next report. Live and learn.

I appreciate your candor and suggestions. I'm only just now entering the second stage of my life, so it's like, you know, every three years I look back and think, "what an asshole I was three years ago. " The 30 year old me would quiver in fear of the presence of the man I am now, and I can only hope that I continue to improve in that vein. I want to treat these women well, of course, as I also want to in general, treat everyone well.

I can tell that there are some gentlemen on this forum that are indeed worth knowing and sharing with. So, I will continue to do so with reports and such. However, there are some ultra-senior members that I'm not sure if they have to power to "ban" me or not for expressing dissent. We shall see. Still need to figure out this crypto jazz and get my account upgraded. Cheers, Tom.