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  1. #17455

    SNL's ode to the king...

    When SNL wrote this President Elon Musk skit, and created the dept. of D.O.U.C.H.E., I couldn't help but think, it was somewhat of a nice ode to the king of the D-BAG and Double D-BAG word usage! (...kkkk!)

    This one's for the king!
    https://www.tiktok.com/@nbcsnl/video...13025016466730

    Enjoy!

  2. #17454
    Quote Originally Posted by Spidy  [View Original Post]
    Me neither!

    Again, while I'm not aware of any place that has consumers "mandated to buy EVs", it did occur to me, countries that plan to stop the sales of new ICE vehicles, at some future date, will be prohibiting consumer new ICE purchases. Probably won't stop some, from buying a used or new ICE vehicle, still being sold in neighboring countries, without a ban.

    For example, Norway's ban starts in Oct, 2025, unlike the European Union's plan to ban them by 2035, joining several US states, Canada, Japan, Singapore, India, New Zealand, and a number of other nations with similar bans). To my surprise, Ethiopia (of all places) became, the first country in the world to ban new sales of ICE vehicles, in 2023.
    • It begins: Ethiopia set to become first country to ban internal combustion cars

      "Ethiopia spent nearly $6 billion to import fossil fuels last year with more than half of that spending going to fuel vehicles. In response, Ethiopias Transport and Logistics" Ministries have announced that automobiles cannot enter Ethiopia, unless they are electric. (!)"
      https://electrek.co/2024/02/02/it-be...mbustion-cars/

    With Ethiopia's population at about 132 million, it will be interesting to watch, how they plan to rollout their transition, to electrical transportation.
    EU will change, now postponing thermic and many Europeans don t want but burn now Tesla from facist Musk who is a big liar / faker. Now main point will be military for Europe with UK, when we can t trust a crazy Trump, friend with criminal dictator Putin. If Trump fuck Ukraine for values or lands, then USA have to be banned like friend Russia. Such shame for USA with only criminal Putin and Netanhyaou for support.

  3. #17453
    Putin feels very free at the moment for war, killing Ukrainians, under his friend Trump who is more interested to rob Ukraine and Greenland, when USA are just able for robbering now, not more. Really no MAGA, but only robbers. Europe should be a more trustable support for poor Ukraine. Have to live without very small crazy shameful USA now.

  4. #17452

    Ethiopia? ...

    Quote Originally Posted by SubCmdr  [View Original Post]
    I do not believe anyone should be mandated to buy an EV.
    Me neither!

    Again, while I'm not aware of any place that has consumers "mandated to buy EVs", it did occur to me, countries that plan to stop the sales of new ICE vehicles, at some future date, will be prohibiting consumer new ICE purchases. But probably won't stop some, from buying new ICE vehicles, still being sold in neighboring countries, without a ban.

    For example, Norway's ban starts in Oct, 2025, unlike the European Union's plan to ban them by 2035, joining several US states, Canada, Japan, Singapore, India, New Zealand, and a number of other nations with similar bans. To my surprise, Ethiopia (of all places) became, the first country in the world to ban new sales of ICE vehicles, in 2023.
    • It begins: Ethiopia set to become first country to ban internal combustion cars

      "Ethiopia spent nearly $6 billion to import fossil fuels last year with more than half of that spending going to fuel vehicles. In response, Ethiopia's Transport and Logistics" Ministries have announced that automobiles cannot enter Ethiopia, unless they are electric. (!)"
      https://electrek.co/2024/02/02/it-be...mbustion-cars/
    With Ethiopia's population at about 132 million, it will be interesting to watch, how they plan to rollout their transition, to electrical transportation. Hopefully they'll be taking advantage of their roughly 75% of sunshine days per year with solar energy.

  5. #17451

    MAGA and ICE propaganda...

    Quote Originally Posted by Elvis2008  [View Original Post]
    First off, even the Washington Post has called out what a shitty program the EV charging plan was. https://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-G...-Stations.html

    When people gripe about paying taxes and the government being the absolute worst possible capital allocator, this is what they are talking about: $7. 5 billion in investments for electric vehicles has. In two years produced just 7 charging stations across four states.
    All those articles are just MAGA and legacy automotive propaganda pieces. Only 7 chargers, but yet there's 8,000 electrical stations to rip out...have you done the the math?

  6. #17450

    Trump knows his MAGA suckers are obsessed by thoughts and dreams of trannies.

    Perhaps the greatest of all Repub sucker social issues the GOP exploits to con their Conservative-Repub voters to vote for them and demonstrably against the interests of themselves and the USA, is their unhealthy obsession with trannies.

    Now it extends to their thoughts and fever-dreams of tranny mice:

    Fact-checking Trump's anti-transgender comments in his address to Congress.
    The president claimed the government has spent $8 million making mice transgender.
    March 6, 2025


    https://www.nbcnews.com/nbc-out/out-...ess-rcna194969

    President Donald Trump mentioned the transgender community half a dozen times throughout his address to Congress on Tuesday, though trans people make up an estimated 1% of the U.S. population.
    ..........
    It's still unclear whether the player who spiked the ball and hit McNabb during the September 2022 match was transgender. McNabb has said in interviews that she and her teammates were aware of a trans player on the team, but that players name has not been shared and she has not spoken to the press. Since then, McNabb has become a paid national advocate for state laws prohibiting trans students from playing on school sports teams that match their gender identities. She testified in favor of such a measure in North Carolina, which passed and took effect in August 2023.
    ...........
    Trump then said trans women are hurting other sports, referring to a case in which a trans woman finished a long-distance cycling race and set a record by five hours, beating a cisgender woman. Trump appears to be referring to Austin Killips, a trans woman cyclist who did win the 800-mile Arizona Trail Race in May.

    Trump used the same reference before signing the executive order banning trans women and girls from playing in female sports. Killips responded in an op-ed for the Guardian, noting that she did set a course record, though the previous record was held by a man, who had broken a record set by a woman before him.

    Killips said the reason she was interested in the event was because it was co-ed and argued that Trump had used her as a scapegoat.

    However, Trump on Tuesday said her record which Killips said has since been broken is demeaning for women and its very bad for our country.

    'Making mice transgender'

    Trump brought up trans issues again about 20 minutes into his speech, in what many on social media have described as one of the most bizarre moments of the address. He said Elon Musk was helping to find wasteful government spending, including $8 million for making mice transgender.
    ..........
    The White House released a statement about Trump's comment Wednesday that referenced most of the above studies and a few more, including one that examines the effects of gender-affirming testosterone therapy on breast cancer risk and treatment, and another that studies the role estrogen plays in how gender influences asthma. None of the studies the White House referenced were specifically focused on "making mice transgender," but rather on the health effects of hormones.
    ..........
    Transgender youth

    About an hour into his speech, Trump introduced January Littlejohn, a Florida mom who sued her childs school district for allegedly creating a plan to allow her child to use a different name and pronouns at school without Littlejohns knowledge, which Trump described as child abuse.

    A judge dismissed Littlejohns lawsuit in 2022, after the school district amended the internal support plan for her child. The court also said her claim couldnt meet the high burden to show that what the school did had violated her parental rights. Littlejohn has appealed.
    Read more about the latter lie Trump told that night to see the parents were never kept on the dark about what was going on with the school and those dreaded "pronouns", the replacement for Great Repub Depressions, Great Repub Recessions and Massive Repub Jobs Destruction in the empty skulls of MAGAs as the worst condition the country could ever have to suffer and endure.

  7. #17449
    ShooBree, Putin is a mass murderer and a psychopath. You won't get any argument about that from me. And your listing of his past invasions of his neighbors is totally accurate. But for the sake of some context, here are some other historical facts:

    In 1956, the Soviet Union occupied Hungary. The Hungarians hated the occupation and oppression so they bravely rebelled. The result was the Red Army marched into Hungary and killed around 3,000 civilians, wounded 20,000, arrested 26,000 Hungarians, and sent them to the Siberian gulags. The USA and NATO did nothing. That was under Eisenhower.

    In 1968, The Soviets did the same thing again in Czechoslovakia when the people there tried to rebel. Soviet forces, marched right in and killed 137 civilians and wounded more than 500 people. The USA and NATO did nothing. That was under Johnson.

    And in 1950 the Chinese communists invaded Tibet and killed 1,200,000 Tibetans and it's estimated that 100,000 Tibetans were tortured to death in Chinese Communist concentration camps. The USA did nothing. That was under Truman.

    So now it is Putin who is on the March. His goal is to restore the power and glory of the former Soviet Union and one thing is clear; Putin does not care how many Ukranians or Russians are killed in the process of obtaining his goal of total domination and control over the Ukraine and the former Soviet bloc. So, the question is how does the world ie the USA and NATO stop this slaughter. Trump has a plan. The idea is to get a cease fire in place so American rare mining companies, their technicians, and workers can move into the Ukraine and act as a kind of buffer against further aggression from Putin. Maybe it will work, maybe it won't. If you have a better plan I am sure we would all like to hear it.

    Quote Originally Posted by ShooBree  [View Original Post]
    What trump is doing is not ceasefire, it's not peace, it's a complete capitulation!

    What you're doing is to support Russia's war against Ukraine. If you wanted the war to be over you would defend Ukraine because Ukraine are literally trying to defend themselves and end the war!

    What you're displaying is a complete lack of humanity and knowledge of history.

    Hitler didn't stop just because the Europeans let him take over the Sudetenland and the wars didn't stop after the West let putin take Georgia in 2008!

    Neither did the wars stop after putin invaded Crimea in 2014!

    To believe that there will peace if Ukraine just capitulates to Russia is the definition of insanity!

    To do the same thing over and over again and expect a different result is the definition of insanity!

  8. #17448

    So far, President Musk has discovered zero waste, fraud and abuse.

    As of this writing, President Chainsaw Musk and his Hitler Youth Hackers have verified exactly zero evidence of waste, fraud and abuse in their quest to fire thousands of veterans and defund Congressionally-approved programs that Americans want and / or need.

    At most, even those veteran firings and defunding has "saved" less than $5 billion from the USA budget. Which, of course, will cost American tax-payers much more than that when Blue States need to rescue and recover Red States from the mess the Repubs in the WH have made. As usual.

    And, no, there is no way Repubs are going to fire enough veterans and defund enough programs Americans rely on to offset the Trillions and Trillions they will add to the Trump deficits for President Chainsaw Musk's coveted additional tax cuts.

    'An empty promise. Can't happen. Won't happen.'

    https://youtu.be/o6wv-37xVO4?si=RGH1IAREqrt4-cuz

  9. #17447

    Oh, that is so cute!

    Got to love the way classic Know Nothing, Do Nothing Repubs like Trump rush ahead of what had already been happening under Dems to claim unearned and undeserved credit for it.

    With the added spin under Trump being the enterprises in question know all they need to do to get him to stfu is to suggest it was his momentary influence that made their long range plans necessary and hand him a fake "win" by simply doing what they'd been doing or planning all along anyway. LOL.

    Fact Check: No, Honda Isn't Opening a New Plant in Indiana Despite President Trump's Claim.

    https://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/ca...ump-s-44512444

    We've reached out to Honda to see if the company will confirm the reports about Civic production moving to Indiana. The company provided this statement: "Honda has made no such announcement and will not comment on this report. The Honda Civic has been made in our Indiana Auto Plant since the facility opened in 2008 based on our longstanding approach to build products close to the customer. We have the flexibility to produce products in each region based on customer needs and market conditions."

    As for Trump's claim about a new Honda plant, the company said this: "We thank President Trump for recognizing our commitment to manufacturing vehicles in America, and we look forward to working with the administration and Congress on pro-growth policies that support a robust U.S. auto industry. While Honda did not announce plans for a new plant in the U.S. at this time, we have invested over $3 billion in advanced vehicle manufacturing in America in just the past three years, with a cumulative total of more than $24.7 billion. We look forward to continuing to invest locally and build quality products in America, as Honda has been doing for the past 45 years.
    Now, is this the Trump auto tariff plans he announced one day then buckled and reversed the very next day when the Stock Market reminded him what a tariff is and who pays them? Lololol.

    No successful company with more than 2 employees makes or changes long range plans based on what some blithering, blathering, buckling and incoherent numbskull like Trump with less than 2 years of fake mojo left spews out of his pie-hole.
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  10. #17446

    To all the haters

    Na-na-na-na-na, na-na-na-na.

    https://www.youtube.com/shorts/JYRQMB-LF1s

  11. #17445
    Quote Originally Posted by Tiny12  [View Original Post]
    One of the things I like about your posts is you're an independent thinker. We have our disagreements, like on the COVID vaccine and EihTooms. You have severe reservations about the vaccine, while I've gotten six shots. And you think Tooms is loony, while I believe he's intelligent, just sadly misguided and hyper-partisan.

    But anyway you call it like you see it, with a good measure of common sense and without regard to what a good Republican or Democrat is supposed to think.
    I think Tooms is intelligent. He just lets his partisan feelings overcome any facts. He seeks out any fact that supports his emotional values and ignores all the others. Everyone does that to some degree. He just has ZERO ability to compensate. If you could not be critical of the Democratic party shit show before the 2024 election, you cannot hold any objective opinion. A bunch of Muslims are to blame for the outcome versus nominating a man with dementia and a drunk airhead after him? Come on, man! James Carville said Kamala was 9th string, but Tooms cannot say that.

    As for Trump and the tariffs, he is backing off again, and I think he looks badly doing it. Some are speculating now Trump is trying to cause a recession. I do not. This is Trump at his shoot from the hip worst. He really needs to stop it. Among other things, he is going back on a deal he himself made. It is really bad.

  12. #17444
    Quote Originally Posted by Sirioja  [View Original Post]
    Michele Obama could give a much better image than a senile schizophrene threatening blackmailing to rob poor Ukrainians with his friend, criminal dictator Putin, also threatening Greenland to rob also them. USA are just behaving like robbers now, when they can t compete with EU and cheap China for economics. But Hamas won t be afraid of a old senile bullshiting. The world have now to protect versus shameful USA under robber, crazy Trump.
    Shameful, not respectable Trump put shame and not trustable on USA. Our world have now to boycott USA, for same like Russia.

  13. #17443

    Whomp whomp whomp, get a clue you tranny lover

    Quote Originally Posted by EihTooms  [View Original Post]
    Repubs have been demonizing and scape-goating Liberals and by extension Democrats since at least Nixon. It really swung into serious neurotic behavior under Reagan and by the time his VP became president their sick culture had decided "Liberal" was such a terrible label to put on someone that silly man would refer to Liberals as "The L word. " That is how terrible they hoped people would consider Liberal / Democrats to be.

    The demonizing and scape-goating got to be as vicious and irrational as the anti-Jewish sentiment in 1930's Germany.

    Oh, it is so easy to blame "Libs" for all the failures of your life and the ills of society. Chicago, San Francisco, New York and the rest had been hotbeds of crime, gangs and corruption since the day they were built, through Repub and Dem Mayorships and State Governorships. But it is always the fault of "Lib / Dems", don't ya' know. LOL.

    Jews in 1930's Germany.

    Of course, never mind that "Lib / Dem" policies and stewardship has so surpassed that of "Conservative-Repub"s for at least 100 years on economic Recoveries, expansions and damn near every job created over the past 50 years while Conservative-Repubs' only specialty appears to be driving us into one Great Depression, Great Recession and Massive Jobs Destruction after another in our and our parents' lifetimes.

    So that creates a very inconvenient problem for Repubs; how to demonize and scape-goat the side whose economic results are far and away superior to their own? Particularly when you just had a several decades' long pattern of Conservative-Repub disaster vs Lib-Dem Success too blatantly obvious to ignore?

    Enter the Repubs' sucker social issues. On steroids.

    Now the most horrible thing to happen to America isn't another Great Repub Depression and Massive Jobs Destruction. Oh no. Hey, shit happens. Wild coincidence. Magical economic cycles. A Witch's Curse. No big deal.

    It is now "wokeism", "pronouns", "child mutilation", defund the police", blah blah blah shit that almost no Conservative-Repub can define or point to ever happening as often as someone getting struck by lightning 3 times in a week during the Summer.

    But the weak-minded demonizers and scape-goaters must believe in it to keep their deep "own the libs" psychosis alive and kicking. And for the Repub pols to win votes and ever get elected for anything.

    Do you know there were Emergency Room staff reports of old MAGAs dying of Covid and with their last choking gasp they still refused to believe they had what their lord and savior assured them was a "Democrat Party Hoax"? That they had essentially chosen to die rather than get a vaccine or avoid crowds in closed rooms and thereby be mistaken for a "Democrat"? LOL.

    That is how deeply psychotic the need for "owning the libs" is among MAGAs.

    A. H. Is a social issue sucker. So is Tiny to a certain extent. So are many otherwise seemingly lucid and capable MAGAs.

    They will vote in a way that directly elects or helps Trumps and Trumpists win elections even though it is blatantly obvious that those traitors' only mission is to destroy the USA Economy, wipe out millions of jobs, skyrocket the debt and deficit with nothing of value to show for it because they have been indoctrinated from an early age to demonize and scape-goat the very Party and philosophy whose policies and stewardship have ever actually ever Made America Great.

    Con man Trump knew this from the very beginning. He knew where the suckers were and how to bamboozle them because their deep psychosis gave them no choice. And he knew very, very well it was not going to be among Lib-Dems.
    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2...rumps-tariffs/

    https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2025/...xt-four-years/

    https://nypost.com/2025/03/03/busine...ariffs-report/

    https://www.cnbc.com/2025/03/03/tsmc...ip-plants.html

  14. #17442
    Quote Originally Posted by AxelHeyst  [View Original Post]
    The Democrat party is in self-destruction mode. It is simply amazing to watch this mass group suicide. It is so bizarre. I mean ever since the 1968 Chicago Democratic Convention the left has seen themselves as the "peace" party. They were against the Vietnam war (although Johnson started it), the Iraq war, and the killing of Soleimani. Biden as VP was even against the raid to kill bin Laden. And the left was so proud of President Biden's impersonation of Humphrey Bogart in the Caine Mutiny with his cowardly and frantic decision to retreat from Afghanistan.

    But now for the sole reason that Trump is president the left suddenly wants war, a war between Russia and Ukraine to continue into the foreseeable future. It is just fucking amazing especially considering that President Trump is on the verge of getting a cease fire deal between Putin, the Ukraine and the USA to end this massacre..
    What trump is doing is not ceasefire, it's not peace, it's a complete capitulation!

    What you're doing is to support Russia's war against Ukraine. If you wanted the war to be over you would defend Ukraine because Ukraine are literally trying to defend themselves and end the war!

    What you're displaying is a complete lack of humanity and knowledge of history.

    Hitler didn't stop just because the Europeans let him take over the Sudetenland and the wars didn't stop after the West let putin take Georgia in 2008!

    Neither did the wars stop after putin invaded Crimea in 2014!

    To believe that there will peace if Ukraine just capitulates to Russia is the definition of insanity!

    To do the same thing over and over again and expect a different result is the definition of insanity!

    What trump is doing has actual consequences for real people on the ground in Ukraine!

    It's not some Hollywood movie or WWE!

    Let us be honest about what trump actually has done and what consequences we have seen:

    Trump took away Ukraine's weapons to defend themselves against the russian aggression.

    Trump took away Ukraine's information of russian attacks.

    And here's the real kicker; what does this mean for russia?

    It opens up new doors for russia, they are becoming more aggressive and are attacking more Ukrainian cities because they know that Ukraine will have less weapons and intel to defend themselves.

    Does this lead putin and russia closer to signing a ceasefire? Hell NO!

    The Russians are in this now, they are going forward and they are not stopping! If anyone believes otherwise, why would you? Because the Russians said something? Haha, that's hilarious! The Russians are liars just like trump!

    So thanks to your great leader more Ukrainians will die, the Russians will keep going and be stronger.

    Trump is not a politician, he is a cult leader.

  15. #17441
    Quote Originally Posted by Xpartan  [View Original Post]
    When Elvis spews his own brand of nonsense, you know where it comes from -- Elvis is a conspiracy theorist, he's a guy MAGA IS MADE OF.
    Uh, wrong. I think on my own. When there is an issue that tries to turn us all into robots, and there is this attitude of you have to be crazy to go against the narrative, I look deeper. Look at all the bullshit that was being fed to us that was true. Biden is sharp as a tack. Kamala is no drunk. Putin is pure evil. Zelensky is an angel. The Covid vaccine is safe and effective. Anyone who thinks Covid came from a lab is into conspiracy theory.

    On every issue, with time, the public came over to my side. The one pushing conspiracy theories were the douches reading off the same script and Xpartan, you just bought what the douches are saying.

    78% of the American people versus 16% want a peace deal in Ukraine. The percent of people saying Russia is an enemy has gone from 64 to 34%.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PT63l0td9bA

    And this is what always happens when the facts are on my side. It just takes a while for people to see him. Here is more drivel.

    Quote Originally Posted by ShooBree  [View Original Post]
    But good to know that you're a supporter of Putin's puppet in the White House, Putin and the other Russian war criminals.
    You should be aware that Putin will be remembered in history as the Hitler of the 21th century, because What's going on now will very much be in the history books and the future school children will read about this.
    There will be statues and streets named after Zelenskyj in every European capital. The school children will read about Zelenskyj in the history books and he will be remembered as a hero just like Winston Churchill.
    For USA I do believe that there will be a lot of shame over how the American people could elect trump and how the (Republican) senators betrayed their own beliefs.
    One thing you can deduce from people is the mindless name calling. The fallacy of the Nazi analogy, also known as reductio ad Hitlerum, is a logical fallacy where an argument is invalidated by comparing it to Adolf Hitler or the Nazi Party. Mike Godwin later introduced Godwin's law in 1990, which states that as an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches one.

    So you have the Democratic douche fallacy. Trump is Hitler. Putin is Hilter. The Putin one is really stupid. Hilter took over almost the whole of Europe in 2 years. Putin has taken over 20% of one country in 3 years. Yet I do not expect any douche to back off.

    Meanwhile, this is what Zelensky the angel is up to: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjlJoLT1Df0.

    The pattern with you and the douches is the same. You pound the narrative and once it is shown to be false, you pretend you did not say what you did. When peace comes to Ukraine, no one will admit to being pro war, you will pretend that you were not one of the biggest war hawks going but wanted peace all along.

    That is why I call you the never mind Democrats. I should put a pin in this post and have us come back to it in 2 years.

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