Stupid Shit in Kyiv

[Tiny 12]

Ah! The classic "intelligent but sadly deceived. " Nothing quite like a hefty dose of condescension, thank you!

"Sadly" was an especially nice touch.

Thank you! And you’re welcome!

[Reiner Otto]

How is the Ukraine economy doing so well when the stock market is crashing in these disunited States?

Military production, probably. Look at Russia. Their economy runs because of same reason.

[Xpartan]

HotDog, I think you may be a bit hard on Xpartan. He's not stupid or evil. Actually I believe he's intelligent and good, just sadly deceived by neoconservatives and defense hawks. And not a realist.

Ah! The classic "intelligent but sadly deceived. " Nothing quite like a hefty dose of condescension, thank you!

"Sadly" was an especially nice touch.

[Xpartan]

How is the Ukraine economy doing so well when the stock market is crashing in these disunited States? I don't get it, doesn't make any sense. My brokerage account is so deep in the red it's ridiculous now, it's like covid times again. But Ukraine's economy is booming? I just don't get it. At this point, just about every economy on earth is doing better *sigh* FML.

What? Where did you get that Ukraine's economy is booming? Ukraine is attacked by a 1000-pound mad gorilla, how exactly can it be booming. Both Ukraine's and Russia's economies are focused on the war, and there's no such thing as booming.

[Xpartan]

Okay, so now you are completely engulfed in Ukrainian propaganda. There is footage of soldiers SMOKING in the pipeline. The methane was pumped out, holes were cut in the pipeline, and the first soldiers moved in with oxygen tanks to make sure it was safe. There were a few who got sick and were treated. The Russians were well aware of the potential dangers of methane.

So the pipeline tactic was not necessary because Ukraine lost before then? And how does that change things in the bigger picture? They did not beat us with the pipeline trick, they beat us at regular war? That is even worse when it comes to the future of Ukraine.

I'm talking about the pipeline, for fuck's sake! That was a disaster that ended in hundreds of deaths.

Since you love Youtube videos so much, here's one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zZzi0HRdiI

But wait, here's another one.

https://youtu.be/cIRcP2IRlp8

All that was shot BY the RUSSIANS SOLDIERS themselves inside the FUCKING PIPE! Ukraine's propaganda, my ass!

Ukraine's propaganda? Listen to what THEY and Russian PRO-WAR MILBLOGGERS are saying about this calamity, you brainwashed ignoramus.

[Newton York]

How is the Ukraine economy doing so well when the stock market is crashing in these disunited States? I don't get it, doesn't make any sense. My brokerage account is so deep in the red it's ridiculous now, it's like covid times again. But Ukraine's economy is booming? I just don't get it. At this point, just about every economy on earth is doing better *sigh* FML.

[Tiny 12]

HotDog, I think you may be a bit hard on Xpartan. He's not stupid or evil. Actually I believe he's intelligent and good, just sadly deceived by neoconservatives and defense hawks. And not a realist.

[Sirioja]

https://apnews.com/article/europe-ec...3d7e6cb021608a

Even before the French and German governments collapsed, Europe's economy had enough difficulties. Tepid growth and lagging competitiveness versus the USA And China. An auto industry that's struggling. Where to find billions for defense against Russia? And now Donald Trump threatening tariffs.

Solutions will be harder to find while the two countries that make up almost half of the eurozone economy remain stuck in political paralysis well into 2025.

Where once there was the so-called French-German axis to push Europe ahead, now there's a vacuum.

Ratings agency Fitch revised France's outlook from "stable" to "negative," citing French Prime Minister Michel Barnier's challenges in trying to bring down the country's spiraling debt.

At the same time, Moody's Ratings delivered a cut to its rating outlook for Belgium.

German Economy Minister Robert Habeck on Wednesday revealed that the government in Berlin expects the country's economy to shrink for a second year in a row forecasting a contraction of around 0. 2 percent after previous predictions of 0.3 percent growth..

Reality is Russia economics ls about to fall and Putin doesn't control anything about, but spending much more than income. Best would be to make Russia broke, not able anymore for war, and maybe blind Russians would wake up, from starvation, and get rid of their dictator, same like Ceacescu. Ro.

[Sirioja]

On what land? When the jews from Brooklyn or wherever come to pour in as "settlers" (the zionists mindfuck / gaslight you even with the nomenclature- let's not say it as it is: occupiers) into stolen land in defiance of UN resolutions. Yeah, the UN resolutions which were used to invade and assault Iraq to steal their oil and protect the zionists. The stench of hypocrisy should be nauseating to any decent person.

Gaza land as Palestine, not a beach resort as told by stupid Trump, same than Jews were given a country.

[HotDog666]

I told we have to give a real country to Palestinians, but when loving Russia, I think our world have to get rid of Putin who is not trustable and even fuck Russians.

On what land? When the jews from Brooklyn or wherever come to pour in as "settlers" (the zionists mindfuck / gaslight you even with the nomenclature- let's not say it as it is: occupiers) into stolen land in defiance of UN resolutions. Yeah, the UN resolutions which were used to invade and assault Iraq to steal their oil and protect the zionists. The stench of hypocrisy should be nauseating to any decent person.

[Elvis 2008]

You'll have to forgive me for removing some of your verbal diarrhea that you sprinkled all over your post.

Second, while the energy prices have risen in Europe, no one is collapsing for Christ's sake. Unbearable my ass, more drama, please!

https://apnews.com/article/europe-ec...3d7e6cb021608a

Even before the French and German governments collapsed, Europe's economy had enough difficulties. Tepid growth and lagging competitiveness versus the USA And China. An auto industry that's struggling. Where to find billions for defense against Russia? And now Donald Trump threatening tariffs.

Solutions will be harder to find while the two countries that make up almost half of the eurozone economy remain stuck in political paralysis well into 2025.

Where once there was the so-called French-German axis to push Europe ahead, now there's a vacuum.

Ratings agency Fitch revised France's outlook from "stable" to "negative," citing French Prime Minister Michel Barnier's challenges in trying to bring down the country's spiraling debt.

At the same time, Moody's Ratings delivered a cut to its rating outlook for Belgium.

German Economy Minister Robert Habeck on Wednesday revealed that the government in Berlin expects the country's economy to shrink for a second year in a row forecasting a contraction of around 0. 2 percent after previous predictions of 0.3 percent growth.

End of link.

As Putin said, and you did not listen, the Russian economy is now bigger than the German one. The sanctions on Russia have hurt Europe more than Russia. Forget the news agencies. If you read the Moscow forum, you have a monger in Russia saying that the Russian economy being bad is pure bullshit.

[Elvis 2008]

There goes Zelensky's Kursk 'Bargaining Chip'.

Also, I think Trump is delusional if he thinks the Russians are going to accept a 30 day ceasefire. It won't happen. I mean Putin would have to be a complete idiot to accept that.

Well, Trump is talking tough in public but is probably conceding a lot in private. There is a lot of money squirreled away in Europe, and Russia would like the sanctions removed. Putin is going to drive a hard bargain to be sure but I think it will happen. The Russians will get most all of what they want, and I put the odds of it happening as better than 50-50. Putin needs to make Trump look good especially after Zelensky's performance.

[Elvis 2008]

THE TRUTH.

The Russian sneak attack was a complete disaster. The pipe hadn't been cleaned of methane--as a result, hundreds of Russian servicemen suffocated, while others were ambushed by the Ukrainians who, by the way, had well been aware of the infiltration attempt and waited for the Russians to emerge outside. After the Russians on the outside were eliminated, the exit was sealed, which probably didn't help those who stayed behind.

Okay, so now you are completely engulfed in Ukrainian propaganda. There is footage of soldiers SMOKING in the pipeline. The methane was pumped out, holes were cut in the pipeline, and the first soldiers moved in with oxygen tanks to make sure it was safe. There were a few who got sick and were treated. The Russians were well aware of the potential dangers of methane.

2. Ukrainian troops left Sudja. The Ukrainian units had already started withdrawing simply because the Russians managed to establish fire control over their only logistical rout, the highway from Sumy to Sudja. For Ukraine it was time to retreat or lose thousands of men.

So the pipeline tactic was not necessary because Ukraine lost before then? And how does that change things in the bigger picture? They did not beat us with the pipeline trick, they beat us at regular war? That is even worse when it comes to the future of Ukraine.

[HotDog666]

You'll have to forgive me for removing some of your verbal diarrhea that you sprinkled all over your post.

To indulge me? Did you or did you not say this: "Naiveity: to entrust their energy needs to Russia, to such an extent that their industry is now collapsing under unbearable energy prices"?

First, I do not disagree that Europe shouldn't have entrusted anything at all to Russia, not only their energy needs.

Second, while the energy prices have risen in Europe, no one is collapsing for Christ's sake. Unbearable my ass, more drama, please!

Third, "doing badly economically, demographically, and socially"? Really? Put your big empty words where sun doesn't shine?

Either you have nothing to back your claim up, or you're plain lazy.

So help me understand. You're putting the Anti-Defamation League, a non-violent, US-based advocacy group combating anti-Semitism next to the mass-homicidal political movements and governments of:

- The Nazis.

- The Communists.

- Putin's government.

Correct?

You know, there is no need to label you an anti-Semite. You do it wonderfully on your own.

First, I do not disagree that Europe shouldn't have entrusted anything at all to Russia, not only their energy needs.

Second, while the energy prices have risen in Europe, no one is collapsing for Christ's sake. Unbearable my ass, more drama, please!

Third, "doing badly economically, demographically, and socially"? Really? Put your big empty words where sun doesn't shine?

You are an ignoramus, who doesn't know that he is an ignoramus. YES, energy prices in UK and Germany but especially the UK are having catastrophic impact on people's livelihood. You are too dumb to know or care, but people in the UK are literally facing the choices of heating or eating, with either the highest or one of the highest energy prices in the world, something like 3 x what Americans pay. It is unbearable for very many people despite the government subsidising these heavily, and were the subsidy removed most of UK would be in the dark. Speaking of which there is constant talk of the lights being switched off possibly because of energy issues. Meanwhile German industry is on its freaking knees! The You are talking out of your ass, I mean it's literally like talking to a freaking moron!

Oh BTW, just today, there's an article on how parts of UK are poorer than Malta and it looks to get worse. Look I could speak entire pages about how Europe is doing badl yeconomically, demographically and socially, but the fact that I even have to address this with you genuinely is astonishing, and you seriously need to deal with your moronity.

*So help me understand. You're putting the Anti-Defamation League, a non-violent, US-based advocacy group combating anti-Semitism next to the mass-homicidal political movements and governments of:

- The Nazis.

- The Communists.

- Putin's government.

Correct?

So, there are two kinds of people in the world (actually there are more but I don't want to fry your few remaining brain cells) : those who aren't that smart but know they are not that smart, and those who aren't that smart but don't realise this. The problem with people in the latter category to which you belong is that you may as well be talking to a goat. Your misapprehension is a logical fallacy- given the likelihood that you're not a Harvard Philosophy alumnus it's probably be not worthwhile to explain this to you but nonetheless I feel behoven to attempt a prefunctory explanation of your imbecility: giving you an logical reasoning that appealing to a biased source on something through analogy does not mean that the components of the analogy are the same.

Since you are probably on the floor now in a jello like state I'll put it even more simply: if I say " This man is as busy as a bee" it is not to say the man = a bee.

So yes, appealing to the PRO ISRAELI ADL to defend "anti semitism = anti zionism" IS like asking a nazi to defend how "anti nazism = hatred of Germany".

The evil zionists have committed a genocide on the Palestinians and gotten away with it because of hypocrites such as you. No matter how much you try and excuse your hypocrisy that truth doesn't change.

Now kindly extract your head out of your ass and give it a wobble.

[HotDog666]

That's the problem with these people. They are up in arms about Putin invading Ukraine but silent over the genocide in Gaza. The worst kind of hypocrites.

The issue with the loathsome hypocrites like Xpartan is that their hatred and their racist evilness garbed under their hypocritical duplicity is the cause of the suffering of very many people.

We are asked to weep for the holocaust of jews (even though it was 80 years ago and nothing to do with us whatsoever) and every year there's yet another holocaust movie, yet when Israels and the zionists in general are committing a holocaust on the Palestinians, the mere criticism of Israel is "anti semitism".

These evil monsters weaponise their history to commit wickedness in the present. Who will stand up to these monsters?