American Politics

[Elvis 2008]

Exclusive: U.S. slashed CDC staff inside China prior to coronavirus outbreak.

https://www.reuters.com/article/world/exclusive-us-slashed-cdc-staff-inside-china-prior-to-coronavirus-outbreak-idUSKBN21C3NE/

You Democratic douches think if the government throws money at anything, it can be fixed. First, you mention cancer. Now you mention curing the common cold. We have spent uptold billions since then, and there is no cure.

Trump stupidly deferred the duties of monitoring and reporting the earliest potential cases and signs of emerging viral spreads in China TO the Chinese, known for keeping those things secret and the precise reason it was so critically important to station the agencies Trump removed in those locations.

I see. So we should have invaded China? How can it be Trump's pandemic when you are blaming China now?

That is a pretty damn good number of potential deadly viral spreads that were identified, reported, addressed and responded to early enough to prevent them from developing into a Pandemic.

There is an unlimited number of Corona viruses that can be made in a lab. Wait, you think this virus occurred in nature? OMG.

It isn't about "curing" a virus for which early cases emerged.

So Trump killed all those people but he did not have a cure that he withheld? LOL. What was he supposed to do?

It is about identifying what kind of illnesses they produce, how they are spread and then springing into action as quickly as possible to isolate and quarantine cases in order to prevent it from spreading uncontrolled so as to become a pandemic or perhaps to thereby delay that much of a spread until reliable, tested and safe vaccines can be invented in order to prevent serious illness or death.

Yeah, all those methods to slow the spread of the disease failed. LOL. You seemed to have missed that part.

Still too complicated for you?

The world assumed the USA would never be so stupid as to elect a so-called president that would trash that position of extreme importance and shift that money to funding endless weekends of taxpayer-funded golf excursions at his failed golf resorts.

Now they know they assumed wrong.

Oh, I have it now. It was Trump taking those golf excursions that led to the pandemic. Tooms, are you off your meds again? If this is not TDS, I do not know what is.

[MarquisdeSade1]

How many times have I posted a series of real news source links for what you are still blitheringly ill-informed about?

Here are just a couple. Again:

Exclusive: U.S. slashed CDC staff inside China prior to coronavirus outbreak.

https://www.reuters.com/article/worl...idUSKBN21C3NE/

Trump stupidly deferred the duties of monitoring and reporting the earliest potential cases and signs of emerging viral spreads in China TO the Chinese, known for keeping those things secret and the precise reason it was so critically important to station the agencies Trump removed in those locations.

Now, see that number 160 in the headline below? That is a pretty damn good number of potential deadly viral spreads that were identified, reported, addressed and responded to early enough to prevent them from developing into a Pandemic.

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/...der-microscope

[RamDavidson84]

What is it about Trump that he can't seem to do anything without breaking the law?

Apparently, he doesn't know how to do anything without breaking the law.

Treasury yields jump on prospect of USA Having to refund tariff money.

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/09/02/us-t...ndroidappshare

Trump can't use National Guard, military in California to enforce laws: judge.

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/09/02/trum...ndroidappshare

People don't give a fuck about right and wrong anymore as long as there is a level of deniability and it gets results. Trump could kill a man on the White House lawn and no one would care as long it puts money in people's pocket one way or another. The means no longer matter, only the ends. Sad, but true. Trump is the asshole America wants at the moment, I am rooting for him because his success will be America's success, but it could lead to disaster down the road. Well see.

[EihTooms]

Why would this team have any power in China? What proven therapy was this team supposed to offer that would have stopped Covid dead in its track? Why did another country's leadership not hire this team if they were that damned great?

You have run out of lies and need to phone a friend?

Name one world leader who had an effective policy that stopped Covid in its tracks. Covid is a cold virus, so you are blaming Trump for not stopping a disease with no cure?

That you cannot answer these questions is proof you have TDS.

Seeing as how you knew what the cure for Covid is, why didn't you stop it?

How many times have I posted a series of real news source links for what you are still blitheringly ill-informed about?

Here are just a couple. Again:

Exclusive: U.S. slashed CDC staff inside China prior to coronavirus outbreak.

https://www.reuters.com/article/worl...idUSKBN21C3NE/

WASHINGTON(Reuters) - The Trump administration cut staff by more than two-thirds at a key U.S. public health agency operating inside China, as part of a larger rollback of U.S.-funded health and science experts on the ground there leading up to the coronavirus outbreak, Reuters has learned.
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The Atlanta-based CDC, Americas preeminent disease fighting agency, provides public health assistance to nations around the world and works with them to help stop outbreaks of contagious diseases from spreading globally. It has worked in China for 30 years.

The CDCs China headcount has shrunk to around 14 staffers, down from approximately 47 people since President Donald Trump took office in January 2017, the documents show. The four people, who spoke on condition of anonymity, said the losses included epidemiologists and other health professionals.
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"The CDC office in Beijing is a shell of its former self," said one of the people, a U.S. official who worked in China at the time of the drawdown.

Separately, the National Science Foundation (NSF) and the United States Agency for International Development (USAID), the global relief program which had a role in helping China monitor and respond to outbreaks, also shut their Beijing offices on Trumps watch. Before the closures, each office was staffed by a U.S. official. In addition, the U.S. Department of Agriculture(USDA) transferred out of China in 2018 the manager of an animal disease monitoring program.
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Over the last two years, the White House has pushed U.S. agencies with a presence in China to de-fund programs there along with the positions to manage them, according to the U.S. official who spoke to Reuters.

Trump stupidly deferred the duties of monitoring and reporting the earliest potential cases and signs of emerging viral spreads in China TO the Chinese, known for keeping those things secret and the precise reason it was so critically important to station the agencies Trump removed in those locations.

Now, see that number 160 in the headline below? That is a pretty damn good number of potential deadly viral spreads that were identified, reported, addressed and responded to early enough to prevent them from developing into a Pandemic.

Wouldn't it have been nice if the key leadership had not been stupidly defunded and removed by Trump so that number counted at least 161?

Trump administration cut pandemic early warning program in September.
Predict project wound down three months before outbreak.
Project had identified 160 potentially dangerous coronaviruses.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...re-coronavirus

The Trump administration decided to end a $200m early warning program designed to alert it to potential pandemics just three months before it is believed Covid-19 began infecting people in China.

Why didn't other countries hire and station those scientists in those locations if they were so great?

WTF are you even talking about?

It was a hard earned, maneuvered and won relationship between the USA and China. It isn't about "curing" a virus for which early cases emerged. It is about identifying what kind of illnesses they produce, how they are spread and then springing into action as quickly as possible to isolate and quarantine cases in order to prevent it from spreading uncontrolled so as to become a pandemic or perhaps to thereby delay that much of a spread until reliable, tested and safe vaccines can be invented in order to prevent serious illness or death.

Still too complicated for you?

The world assumed the USA would never be so stupid as to elect a so-called president that would trash that position of extreme importance and shift that money to funding endless weekends of taxpayer-funded golf excursions at his failed golf resorts.

Now they know they assumed wrong.

[EihTooms]

What is it about Trump that he can't seem to do anything without breaking the law?

Apparently, he doesn't know how to do anything without breaking the law.

Treasury yields jump on prospect of USA Having to refund tariff money.

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/09/02/us-t...ndroidappshare

Treasury yields jumped on Tuesday to begin September trading as a court decision knocking down most of the Trump administrations tariffs raised the prospect of the government having to repay the money already brought in, stretching an already-stressed U.S. fiscal situation.
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U.S. President Donald Trumps tariffs are in focus after a federal appeals court on Friday ruled that most of his global tariffs are illegal. The court determined in a 7-4 ruling that only Congress has the power to implement sweeping levies. Trump responded that the decision was highly partisan and that he will be appealing the ruling to the U.S. Supreme Court.

The core Congressional power to impose taxes such as tariffs is vested exclusively in the legislative branch by the Constitution, the court said. The duties remain in place for now, however.

Trump can't use National Guard, military in California to enforce laws: judge.

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/09/02/trum...ndroidappshare

A federal judge Tuesday barred President Donald Trump from deploying National Guard troops in California to execute law-enforcement actions there, including making arrests, searching locations, and crowd control.

The ruling came in connection with a lawsuit by the state of California challenging Trumps deployment of the Guard to deal with protests in Los Angeles over the Trump administrations immigration enforcement policies.

Judge Charles Breyer said that Trumps deployment of the troops violated the federal Posse Comitatus Act.

[MarquisdeSade1]

Apparently Little Marco's stated Trump policy in May was before some Chinese oligarch or other proponent of the Chinese Communist Party gifted Trump with some gold leaf covered piece of shit trinket to get him to change his mind about helping 600 thousand members of the Chinese Communist Party collect as much USA intel and tech they can gather and take it back to Xi in China:

Trump saying 600,000 Chinese students could come to the US draws MAGA backlash.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/...193828056.html

Or was this just another negotiation point that Xi won from Trump without offering anything substantial to America in return, other than perhaps a personal promise to provide him with free golf tees for life whenever Trump plays golf in China?

That should be your new ISG moniker Bangkok Rose, your hated of America and Americans is sickening.

Just look at your hatred of your own people with your lame ass memes.

600 k CCP spies? Lolol in the social sciences maybe.

Don't think taco will let them in anything we have of real value!

You're a treasonous traitor just as bad as her!

I really hope Our Lord and Savior voids your SS and your Passport.

You will be homeless and stateless.

Maybe you can illegally reenter California where you belong to live on its streets.

[Elvis 2008]

Joe Biden didn't defund and remove the highly successful Pandemic Prevention and Response team leadership from the entire scene in 2018 and 2019 where had they been in place to issue an alert about the emerging Covid cases "2 months sooner" we could have avoided all the trouble and stopped the Pandemic "easily".

Why would this team have any power in China? What proven therapy was this team supposed to offer that would have stopped Covid dead in its track? Why did another country's leadership not hire this team if they were that damned great?

Can't anyone help Elvis come up with any dates for my humble request in bold above?

You have run out of lies and need to phone a friend?

It's embarrassing that he keeps resorting to that bizarre bit about how more MAGAs that fell for Trump's lie that his Pandemic virus "is disappearing" and "will go away without a vaccine" died as a direct result of falling for that lie

Name one world leader who had an effective policy that stopped Covid in its tracks. Covid is a cold virus, so you are blaming Trump for not stopping a disease with no cure?

That you cannot answer these questions is proof you have TDS.

Seeing as how you knew what the cure for Covid is, why didn't you stop it?

[MarquisdeSade1]

She and others at the CDC just aren't into mass murdering American kids and adults as much as Donald Trump is:

White House fires CDC director Monarez after she refuses to resign.

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/08/27/cdc-...ndroidappshare

As Trump proved in 2018, 2019 and 2020, it is so much easier to mass murder at least a million Americans by defunding and removing the conduits of scientific facts and communication so deadly, virulent viruses and disease can spread unnoticed, unreported and unabated until it inevitably develops into a massively economically destructive worldwide Pandemic of "killing fields" in virtually every country on Earth but especially in the USA than it is to kill that many Americans with bullets from guns made blissfully easy for any and every loon to access, load, lock and fire at school children, church-goers, mall shoppers, etc.

Therefore, it is very important for Trump's CDC appointees to be as devoted to mass murdering as many Americans as he and his Cabinet Appointees are as well as to wiping out millions upon millions of jobs, skyrocketing inflation, the national debt and the deficit.

Promises made, promises kept.

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2025-...ntil-last-week

[EihTooms]

Gas prices have been stable since 2022? Then what was all that belly-aching about gas prices being done by MAGAs and their Cult Leader Trump every day of 2022 and since until the day Trump was elected?

Please site and date the Great Depressions, Great Recessions, Massive Jobs Destruction and / or skyrocketing Unemployment Rates into double digits and while you're at it the Bear Market Crashes that started under Dem Presidents instead of Repub presidents over the past 100 years. All of which there have been several over the past 100 years, BTW.

Let's see if actual irrefutable and inarguable data, historical records and facts support your claim that "they both suck" in any meaningful way on any important issue.

Can't anyone help Elvis come up with any dates for my humble request in bold above? It's embarrassing that he keeps resorting to that bizarre bit about how more MAGAs that fell for Trump's lie that his Pandemic virus "is disappearing" and "will go away without a vaccine" died as a direct result of falling for that lie after Trump got his ass kicked out of the White House than he managed to mass murder before he got his ass kicked out of the White House.

LOL. We can only assume that was Trump's goal in telling that deadly lie all through 2020 right up to a few days before the election.

[EihTooms]

Tooms, you deluded yourself into thinking that Trump was somehow responsible for the pandemic. You claim that he dissolved this one committee of brilliant scientists in China who somehow were going to stop the pandemic. I have asked what these scientists were actually going to do, and like usual, you came up with nothing.

If your premise is right and given the damage that ensued with Covid, why didn't the California governor hire them? Or the British PM? Or the Sultan of Burnei? Why do all these people get a pass?

And outside of testing when flying back into the country and the disasterous vaccine mandates, Biden did not change much of anything Trump was doing in 2021 and as we have said so often, there were more Covid deaths in 2021 than 2020.

So just like with the inflation data, you cannot come up with any objective reason why Biden was better than Trump. The only reason you are carrying on about Trump is you have rabid TDS.

As far as Republicans being optimistic, Ha!, that is a low bar to jump. Biden was so bad your own party revoked his nomination. If he were so great, why weren't you screaming that he should stay on the ballot?

Joe Biden didn't defund and remove the highly successful Pandemic Prevention and Response team leadership from the entire scene in 2018 and 2019 where had they been in place to issue an alert about the emerging Covid cases "2 months sooner" we could have avoided all the trouble and stopped the Pandemic "easily".

As Trump himself admitted to Bob Woodward in a March 2020 recorded interview.

That alone makes Joe Biden immeasurably better than Donald Trump.

And everyone knows if Joe Biden, Hillary Clinton, Bill Clinton, Barack Obama or any other Dem had done that just months before the worst Pandemic in our lifetimes developed virtually unmonitored and reported, that is all Trump, Fux News, Breitbart, Newsmax and YOU would have been talking about and reminding everyone of since January 2020.

[EihTooms]

Apparently Little Marco's stated Trump policy in May was before some Chinese oligarch or other proponent of the Chinese Communist Party gifted Trump with some gold leaf covered piece of shit trinket to get him to change his mind about helping 600 thousand members of the Chinese Communist Party collect as much USA intel and tech they can gather and take it back to Xi in China:

Trump saying 600,000 Chinese students could come to the US draws MAGA backlash.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/...193828056.html

WASHINGTON (AP) President Donald Trump seemingly caught his loyal conservative base off-guard and sparked backlash by saying he would allow 600,000 Chinese students into American universities.

That would be a departure for the Donald Trump administration after it added new vetting for student visas, moved to block foreign enrollment at Harvard and expanded the grounds for terminating international students ability to study in the United States.

Secretary of State Marco Rubio has singled out China, the second highest source of international students in the U.S., saying in May that the State Department would revoke visas for students tied to the Chinese Communist Party and boost vetting of new applicants.

Trump's announcement Monday adds to the confusion about the administration's restrictive visa policies and its approach to China as the superpowers tussle over trade and intensifying tech competition. It also marks another divide with figures in Trump's Make America Great Again base, who tout an America First agenda and had contested the U.S. inserting itself in the recent Israel-Iran war.

Or was this just another negotiation point that Xi won from Trump without offering anything substantial to America in return, other than perhaps a personal promise to provide him with free golf tees for life whenever Trump plays golf in China?

[Elvis 2008]

Is that the result you were hoping Trump would repeat in his 2nd term? He's working very hard to accomplish that for you. In fact, he is apparently trying to repeat that same result by applying the same principle of laying the groundwork for, ushering in and exacerbating another Trump's Pandemic of a deadly disease of one kind or another to mass murder millions of people, collapse global supply-chains, wipe out millions of jobs, close down businesses and schools, trigger hyper-inflation during any recovery, etc, etc.

Tooms, you deluded yourself into thinking that Trump was somehow responsible for the pandemic. You claim that he dissolved this one committee of brilliant scientists in China who somehow were going to stop the pandemic. I have asked what these scientists were actually going to do, and like usual, you came up with nothing.

If your premise is right and given the damage that ensued with Covid, why didn't the California governor hire them? Or the British PM? Or the Sultan of Burnei? Why do all these people get a pass?

And outside of testing when flying back into the country and the disasterous vaccine mandates, Biden did not change much of anything Trump was doing in 2021 and as we have said so often, there were more Covid deaths in 2021 than 2020.

So just like with the inflation data, you cannot come up with any objective reason why Biden was better than Trump. The only reason you are carrying on about Trump is you have rabid TDS.

As far as Republicans being optimistic, Ha!, that is a low bar to jump. Biden was so bad your own party revoked his nomination. If he were so great, why weren't you screaming that he should stay on the ballot?

[MarquisdeSade1]

If you want completely objective evidence of how crazy Democrats are, there is this article, https://www.newsweek.com/0-democrats...gallup-2120091

0% of Democrats Happy with State of the US Right Now.

While 76 percent of Republicans say they are satisfied with the direction of the country, just 0. 4 percent of Democrats said the same. The 76-point gap is the highest Gallup has ever recorded on the measure, though a 75-point gap was recorded in May and 74-point gaps in March and July.

As to why, we could see our very own Loony Tooms screaming about a 2. 7% inflation rate which is lower than the average rate was under Biden and is in the EXACT same 2 to 3% range for 2024.

I could get Dems being in an uproar if it were 10+%, but it is the same.

So why are Dems freaking out? Because they are listening to the media with its Trump derangement syndrome, and here is the proof.

https://www.zerohedge.com/personal-f...ion-dissonance

Year-ahead inflation expectations surged from 6.7% last month to 7.3% this month, the highest reading since 1981 and marking five consecutive months of unusually large increases of 0. 5 percentage points or more.

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/...quire-voter-id

Combined with all the deportations and no more mail in fraud and the cheaters are Sooper fucked.

[EihTooms]

https://www.forbes.com/sites/dereksa...-final-update/

If you ever wonder why I call you Democratic this is it. All you can do is lie. Inflation has been far worse during the Biden administration, up 20.1% over the first 45 months of Biden's term compared to 7. 1% during Trump's first 45 months, according to the government's consumer price index. That equates to annualized inflation rates of 5. 4% under Biden and 1.9% under Trump.

So 5.4% inflation is better than 2.9%? LOL. I am Loony Tooms. I am not a MAGA guy. I am so fucking smart. Yeesh.

Great Dem Economic Recoveries from Great Repub Depressions, Great Repub Recessions and Great Repub Historic Jobs Destruction always accompany bouts of higher inflation.

When a so-called president leaves office with fewer jobs in the country than were in the country 4 years earlier as Repub Herbert Hoover and Repub Donald Trump did and no other president has done in 100 years, you can naturally expect the cost of everything to be pretty damn low at the bottom of that pit.

Is that the result you were hoping Trump would repeat in his 2nd term? He's working very hard to accomplish that for you. In fact, he is apparently trying to repeat that same result by applying the same principle of laying the groundwork for, ushering in and exacerbating another Trump's Pandemic of a deadly disease of one kind or another to mass murder millions of people, collapse global supply-chains, wipe out millions of jobs, close down businesses and schools, trigger hyper-inflation during any recovery, etc, etc.

Why argue with success, right? He knows how to do that better than anyone on the planet. From personal experience doing it once already.

Is that why 76% of Repubs love the direction Trump is taking the country?

[SubCmdr]

There's a special place in hell for all of you America hating losers!

Actually there is not. My sources tell me that all current reservations for future stays in HELL are for MAGAs who hate their fellow citizens.