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  1. #19465
    In a perfect world, yes wealth would be equal among all groups. This world how ever is not perfect. Certain things have happened in the history of USA which even today stills hinders black American and yes overall, they do have a harder start at the beginning of life. But it is so case dependent. Many whites come from poor backgrounds as well, or just not blessed with the attributes to obtain success today. Many blacks are born with a high degree of social intelligence, the will to succeed which stems from a harsh upbringing, and a high degree of physical health. These are three most important things to succeed in USA, it is your own personal ability! If you have the skills and service a customer wants and your price is right and your willing to work full time, your in the best economy the world has ever seen. No other society even comes close. Look at Asians, Indian Americans, recent immigrant group and they are the richest racial segment in USA. Literally made a movie about, CRAZY RICH ASAINS. Constantly drilling it into the heads of black youth they can never succeed and everything is set up for them to fail and everyone is racist is literally the worst narrative the media can portray for them. All it is does is create the victim hood mentality and perpetuate them falling behind as a racial segment of USA. So much senseless focus on race and non on ability.

    The policies of socialism just simply don't work. Especially in USA where the country is so diverse. Life and work is hard, people will not do certain jobs or perform adequately unless it is wage based. Take police officers for example. Thank god for body cams! Look that these men and woman go through on a daily basis. It is beyond insane the things they have to deal and the stress they under take and then on top of it, every one hates them because they have to enforce the law to keep order. Very few people are going to work those jobs unless their is a good wage associated with it.

    I can't state this enough, racism is mostly dead. Most people on right just don't care about race. They care about you as a person. They care about what you have to offer. If you have nothing to contribute or offer, most people will not care about you, whether you are white or black. If you did nothing your life to never obtain skills to sell in the market place to contribute, your going to get the bare minimum. Simple as that. That has nothing to do with hate or race. And I am not saying we should not have social programs to help those in need. I am just saying, if your healthy and can contribute by working, you should. So much opportunity in this country.

    OMG, how can you write that Republicans voted for hate, seriously, where does this come from? How can you be so narcissistic and close minded? You really believe the things you write too. It is mind boggling you think half of America is so hateful. I have seen so many good white male republicans do so many good things for people from other backgrounds. Working so hard to help young black men succeed. For the young black males, think of your coaches growing up and how much they did to help you. People like Cane are pushing those guys away more and more and making it harder for them to exist in an urban environment to help those who need it most. It is so different from when I was a kid, no one cared about race. It was about coming together and working hard to achieve a goal. Cane your going to drive away the best think that ever happened young black males from the 80's and 90's. The white men who worked tirelessly to help them. And of course I am not saying black men did not help all races just as much, they did. I am just saying Cane constantly attacking republicans of being racist and vilifying them as being full of hate is driving them away.

    Here is a documentary on a local legend near my home town. Guy was a wrestling coach who coached for 40 years and helped thousands. He was just one guy. This is how I was raised to think. Guys like him are being driven away and guys like him were the ones who made the biggest difference in under privileged communities. He took kids into his home and literally raised them like they were his own sons. He didn't never once thought about skin color. He thought about helping those who need it. He thought about doing a job. His story is very common among white men. Far more common than the idiots in the extreme far right. And I have said this before, my beliefs are based on things I see in the real world. The white men around me, this is how we were raised and this is what is really in our hearts. Not hate, sorry to disappoint Cane. When you have sacrificed so much for real young men from the black community, it is very hard not to respond to your non-sense post.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kq8tmbRjFT8

  2. #19464
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCane  [View Original Post]
    A key pathology common among far-right voters is that they fundamentally believe that a society where every single person thrives cannot exist. There is a strong sense by these voters that there is only enough wealth to go around for a small segment of society, therefore someone else's life has to be destroyed for them to move ahead. This explains why people on the far right blame other social groups for their own lack of opportunity, and is the fundamental drive for racism, xenophobia and pure hatred, especially among those at the lowest incomes.
    Yeah, here is Charlie Kirk at the 3 minute mark doing just that: https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=1751454578755853.

    He says that there are 11 million job openings that pay $80,000 per year that do not require a college degree.

    Yeah, what is next Mr. Narcissist? You going to claim that the poor students going into massive debt and being indoctrinated in liberalism and Marxism in American universities are being run by Republicans? LOL. Get the fuck out of here!

    Here may be the real reason Kirk had to die. He was opening up the eyes of today's young to the horrible fucking scam you douches are perpetrating in the great education scam.

    I can just see a narcissist like you giving a conservative, well-researched and well documented paper an F. As for what you Democratic douches think goes for a great argument deserving of a standing ovation, we see it right here, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zNr8Pf1QkY

    This is the Cane university. All you need to do get As in every class at your university is pay $80,000 a year in tuition and repeat the line, "Fuck Trump". That certainly would make you qualified for most jobs in DC, Hollywood, or with Antifa.

  3. #19463
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCane  [View Original Post]
    Once again your verbal baggage doesn't have anything in it. Just more verbal diarrhea!
    Wow, refuting like a narcissist again. You just toss facts aside and insult. Why would anyone expect any different?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheCane  [View Original Post]
    And for the record, I don't support Mamdani's candidacy for mayor.
    Are you in NYC? Who cares? Mr. Narcissist, you are just one person. The point is that Mamdani is literally all you Democratic douches got. He is getting the kind of enthiasm on the left that Trump did for conservatives. Who else is doing that?

  4. #19462

    Yikes!

    Sure, we're about a year out from when voters will start to make up their minds. So anything can change along the way.

    However, it is another year of Repub MAGA Trump's excessive American Consumer Tax Hikes / Tariffs, border closures and deportation of farm workers, nail salon technicians and gardeners, all designed to drive up costs for Americans on virtually everything, possibly another Trump Recession or two in the American Manufacturing and Agriculture Industries if not for the entire country, etc. Let that roll and rattle around in your empty MAGA skulls.

    BEST 2024 POLLSTER: Midterms Will be GOP Disaster

    https://youtu.be/0INQh9WlpSc?si=sldFbf6AjzGllnqN

    And it is very likely the Repub MAGAs own internal polling is predicting an even worse nightmare for them.

    So now you know why democracy-hating Repub Trump and his fellow democracy-hating Repub MAGAs are kicking up in high gear their usual election rigging, extreme gerrymandering scams, voter suppression, armed military on the ground in major Blue Cities, attempts to ban voting by mail and on and on and on this time around.
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  5. #19461

    The art of adding leivity to a debate, lost in translation

    Quote Originally Posted by RamDavidson84  [View Original Post]
    What a shocker, no explanation and more cognitive dissonance LOL.
    ...

    But anyway, I want more cognitive dissonance routines, because that is what AMERICAN POLITICS is all about on ISG. Nothing solves America's problems more than COGNITIVE DISSONANCE. LOL.
    And here we all thought you were going to take your own advise, and be just a little bit less sensitive!

    Just wanted to say (and BTW, don't take this post as me claiming victimhood but), there was a lot more chuckling and laughing in those last posts, however it seems Admin, sees it fit to edit and remove my laughing and chuckles, thereby totally ruining / spoiling the "context" and comedic delivery of certain lines in the post!

    Not sure when chuckling / laughter became offensive than F-bombs? Or maybe (unbeknownst to me), have they put my on a strict diet of one (1) laugh / chuckle per post.

    Anyho, FWIW, I just wanted to relay that there was more laughing and chucking at some of the your assertions for you wanting me to explain to you, why you don't believe in RIGHT and WRONG!

    So while I don't have ALL answers (or at least the answers for that amoral psyche of yours), you are looking for, rest assured I believe it will come clear to you one day. OR NOT!

    Note, I would like to insert a chuckle / laughter here, but am afraid I may have used up, my laughing quota for this post ..."< where inserted chuckle would be >".

  6. #19460
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCane  [View Original Post]
    A key pathology common among far-right voters is that they fundamentally believe that a society where every single person thrives cannot exist. There is a strong sense by these voters that there is only enough wealth to go around for a small segment of society, therefore someone else's life has to be destroyed for them to move ahead. This explains why people on the far right blame other social groups for their own lack of opportunity, and is the fundamental drive for racism, xenophobia and pure hatred, especially among those at the lowest incomes.

    Rather than recognize that they are part of a dysfunctional economic system where poverty does not discriminate, they are desperate to blame specific social groups for their misfortune. Their hatred is especially vicious towards social groups who seem to be gaining visibility. Fascists and Republicans don't fundamentally hate trans people. They hate that another social group that was formerly invisible is now being added to the mix, which increases competition for resources. The biggest thing that can make fascists go crazy is seeing another social group thrive, as the Jews did in Hitler's Germany. This is pure hate.

    This is why in the US elections, Republican voters supported Trump not so that he can make all of America great again, but so that he can make all white people great again. If only they had understood that his goal was even more narrow: to make all tech oligarchs richer than 99.9% of America. People on the far right fail to realize that the struggle is not between citizens and immigrants or heterosexuals and trans. It is between the poor and the ultra-rich.

    The problem with far-right voters is that they feel they can only get ahead in life if someone else is fucked over. This is not surprising in the US, where this is actually, word-for-word the mantra of capitalism: my profit is your loss. This entire system breeds fascism..
    Such nonsense. Republicans don't think like that. Right wing just doesn't want chains on us so the most driven and talented individuals can reach their potential. They are the same people who changed the world in fundamental ways. A modern example is Olyksandyr Usyk from Ukraine. He literally has Ali level talent in boxing. Defeated a giant like Tyson Fury to become first undisputed heavyweight champ since Lennox Lewis. If USSR was still around and we had those left wing philosophies, a guy like Usyk doesn't exist. He remains some obscure boxer from a small state in the USSR known as Ukraine. He never gets to give the world the gifts he was blessed with in boxing. He is the literal inspiration for why a nation continues to fight a war against an aggressor. So many people like him all over the world make huge contributions in what ever it is they are working in. There is nothing fundamental about right wing values that says others must be "destroyed" so others can thrive. Create a market rich enough and everyone will do just fine. Its the left wing governments which are by far the worst. Cuba, USSR, Venezuela, North Korea, China. C'Mon. There GDP is like 1/10 of the USA. Its silly to compare.

    I can't speak for all of the right, but most conservatives I know aren't blaming any body for anything because most conservatives have pretty decent lives and not much to complain about. I am talking people in everyday life. They are pretty chill and content.

    People don't care about trannies as long as they stay out of bathrooms with 6 year old little girls and stay out of women's sports. Oh and stop denying scientific fact. If your born with certain hormones and chromesomes and a penis, your a guy. If your born with a vagina, your a girl. Sex organs determine gender, not sexuality. Just because you like men sexually doesn't mean your a woman. Simple as that. Not hate, common sense.

    I feel far more hate from the left these days. Trump face shot. Kirk shooting. People celebrating kirk being shot. Way more hate from left.

  7. #19459

    The Politics of Hate

    A key pathology common among far-right voters is that they fundamentally believe that a society where every single person thrives cannot exist. There is a strong sense by these voters that there is only enough wealth to go around for a small segment of society, therefore someone else's life has to be destroyed for them to move ahead. This explains why people on the far right blame other social groups for their own lack of opportunity, and is the fundamental drive for racism, xenophobia and pure hatred, especially among those at the lowest incomes.

    Rather than recognize that they are part of a dysfunctional economic system where poverty does not discriminate, they are desperate to blame specific social groups for their misfortune. Their hatred is especially vicious towards social groups who seem to be gaining visibility. Fascists and Republicans don't fundamentally hate trans people. They hate that another social group that was formerly invisible is now being added to the mix, which increases competition for resources. The biggest thing that can make fascists go crazy is seeing another social group thrive, as the Jews did in Hitler's Germany. This is pure hate.

    This is why in the US elections, Republican voters supported Trump not so that he can make all of America great again, but so that he can make all white people great again. If only they had understood that his goal was even more narrow: to make all tech oligarchs richer than 99.9% of America. People on the far right fail to realize that the struggle is not between citizens and immigrants or heterosexuals and trans. It is between the poor and the ultra-rich.

    The problem with far-right voters is that they feel they can only get ahead in life if someone else is fucked over. This is not surprising in the US, where this is actually, word-for-word the mantra of capitalism: my profit is your loss. This entire system breeds fascism.

    It doesn't have to be this way. The Left has a much more balanced view of society and the world, where equal opportunity and equal share in wealth is enjoyed by all groups: white or black, Christian or atheist, transgender or not. There is no place for hate, except for facism and racism themselves.

    The FAFO hashtag has been making the rounds in the media, which stands for Fuck Around and Find Out, referring to Republicans who voted for Trump. They thought that by voting for hate they will become the wealthy class. What they failed to realise is that hate knows no bounds. What goes around comes around, and hate comes back to you when you least expect it and from the people you least expect it from. You can't vote for hateful people who have no concept of empathy and expect them to be your friend. They'll ditch you the minute they secure your vote and / or don't need you anymore (Donald Trump to a tee). Fuck around and Find Out!

    In the big picture, hate is a big problem for the human species. It is a form of bias, a need to blame others for your own misfortune. Hate leads to more hate, conflict, competition, jealousy, destruction and environmental and civilisational collapse. In a society that is increasingly apathetic and selfish, the most vivid and extreme incarnation of hate, Donald Trump, has been appointed the leader of the country which gave birth to one of the most toxic forms of necrocapitalism. This is not a coincidence.

  8. #19458

    Hate

    Trump being his hateful self even as the wife of the slain finds forgiveness in her heart. Where is the outrage from the right? Where is the condemnation when there is no need to guess? His own mean-spirited words are right there to hear from his own mouth! There will be no condemnation from the extremists on the right. And why? Because of their Trump Derangement Syndrome where only "alternative facts" that support their deceitful narratives are valued and acknowledged. So, instead what they do is make up excuses for Trump and try to deflect from truth. Even though it's plain as day! Trump is a hateful, angry man, and he's been telling and showing us that from the time he came down that escalator announcing his first run for president. His MAGA acolytes can't see or acknowledge this truth due to their TDS, which is so deep and ingrained that they continually try to project their mental defect upon those of us who live in reality. In their rare moments of clarity, they know what they're doing. Crazy like a fox. Stand strong for democracy!

    https://www.reuters.com/world/us/tru...na-2025-09-21/

  9. #19457
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCane  [View Original Post]
    You don't get to define who I am. I actually happen to be left of center and can't stand extremism on either side. But what we have to do is stand shoulder to shoulder united in the fight against your conservative tyranny. And then once we win, and we will win again, that starts the jockeying over who will control the party, and I don't want that to be the AOCs and Bernie Sanders of the left. And do you even know what "Antifa" stands for you dolt? It stands for "anti-facism". And being anti-fascist isn't radical. It's literally what the allies of WW2 stood and fought against. It's responsible. It's the right way to be. So next time you try to use "Antifa" as a slur, remember that it literally means "anti-fascism", which is something to be proud of. We have to stand against facism any place where it can be found, both foreign and domestic. We have a wannabe dictator in the White House. On guard patriotic Americans!
    Nope!

    Just because some one says their anti facist doesn't mean they are actually antifacist. I judge people by their actions. Antifa is clearly strung out drug actics paid by Left wing lunatics like soros to burn cities down to sway elections and other left wing extremists.

    Antifa same as kkk or Taliban. Extremeist weirdos who want everyone to be violently silenced. So your center of left, but people can't make jokes to criticize MAGA loyalty is it involves murder. Ok buddy, you clearly don't even know how to define yourself. I'll do it for you. When you can't take a joke and you start attacking people over differing political views to the point you slander their dead friends, you are a left wing extremist. You not any where near the center. That's why so many people have left the Democrats in recent years, they do not tolerate staying neutral, anyone who does not join their cult is a threat and must be silenced and shamed.

  10. #19456

  11. #19455

    Oh brother!

    This fool can't even pronounce what he's saying shouldn't be used! Just trying to parrot what that qwack RFK, Jr. Is telling him to say. Three plus more years of this rejection of established science and sheer insanity! But not if we can make Donald Trump a lame duck president in his last two years to minimize the damage. That is, unless and until he (illegally) decides to run again! Never put anything past that man. He has repeatedly told and shown who he is. It's high time we believe him!

    https://www.nbcnews.com/now/video/tr...m-248106053641

  12. #19454

    Yes, that really does sound horrible, but

    Quote Originally Posted by RamDavidson84  [View Original Post]
    Tyranny and Extremeism and Authoritarism. LOL.

    How many millions of migrants did Biden have invade USA during his four years? How much did Biden and extreme left Dems spend on Planes and hotels to get Immigrants into the country? How much do we have to spend now to remove them so are elections are fair for the next several generations? Whats my tax bill going to be on that one? Fuck, I am tired of paying for stupid shit because of insane Democratic policies.

    How many instances of extreme perversion occurred under Biden at the White House to send a message? Remember the literal video of a homosexual man being penetrated in the White House. The Transexual man who exposed his chest on the White House lawn with Biden present. Male boxing gold medalist in the women's division LOL!

    Inflation at 20% year over year. I don't remember the exact number, but it was crazy high. The highest of my life time by far..
    You forgot the part about Hillary Clinton running a child sex ring from the back room of a pizza parlor, the cannibalism and blood drinking.

    Oh, and how many times will we have to watch Trump chop off the hands of little babies and force feed them to their parents on the White House lawn?

    Well, I know we never saw that but we see you just wanted to ask utterly ridiculous questions that have nothing whatsoever to do with reality so I thought I would join in.

    Oh, here's another one; How many times will Melania Trump sail over Saint Peter's Cathedral thanks to that flying saucer stuck to her head, or is it a Walmart lampshade, and piss on the nuns on the front steps?

    Hey, this is fun!

    You got any more?

    BTW, this is so typical of what Repub MAGAs do when their guy gets elected and it turns out he doesn't know his ass from his elbow about anything he promised in the campaign and it becomes one super shit-storm of failure after another. In order for Repub MAGAs to "justify" their spectacularly stupid vote for their embarrassing numbskull, they have to now make up all kinds of shit about how as bad as everybody now knows beyond a doubt their guy is, oh oh oh it would have been so so so so much worse if that fire-breathing dragon of certain death to all had been elected instead.

    Happens every time. Lolol. So predictable.
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  13. #19453

    Latinos

    Fuck around and find out! FAFO! LMFAO! https://youtu.be/BAjWl0q3ED4?si=YOPC3bRVJjL5T_lR.

  14. #19452

    Yadda, yadda, yadda!

    Quote Originally Posted by Elvis2008  [View Original Post]
    Get the fuck out of here!
    Once again your verbal baggage doesn't have anything in it. Just more verbal diarrhea! Time to come off that laxative bro LMFAO! And for the record, I don't support Mamdani's candidacy for mayor. All the candidates for New York City mayor suck, but I'm not the kind of guy who won't vote. So, this would be one of those really rare occasions when I think I would do a write-in. Again, you guys don't get to define who I am or my politics, which you most definitely have wrong. Talk about not being able to listen to and accept facts! My God! Too busy shouting and finger pointing to have a chance at finding common ground. So you can GTFOH your own self!

  15. #19451

    Antifa

    Quote Originally Posted by RamDavidson84  [View Original Post]
    Extreme left Dems like Candy Cane are a joke LOL. No one outside antifa circle gives you any validation what so ever.
    You don't get to define who I am. I actually happen to be left of center and can't stand extremism on either side. But what we have to do is stand shoulder to shoulder united in the fight against your conservative tyranny. And then once we win, and we will win again, that starts the jockeying over who will control the party, and I don't want that to be the AOCs and Bernie Sanders of the left. And do you even know what "Antifa" stands for you dolt? It stands for "anti-facism". And being anti-fascist isn't radical. It's literally what the allies of WW2 stood and fought against. It's responsible. It's the right way to be. So next time you try to use "Antifa" as a slur, remember that it literally means "anti-fascism", which is something to be proud of. We have to stand against facism any place where it can be found, both foreign and domestic. We have a wannabe dictator in the White House. On guard patriotic Americans!

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