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  1. #20725

    For the Love of God

    https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldT...77422440266990

    A video for all those that want ICE defunded and Trump impeached, you sick fucks.

  2. #20724
    Quote Originally Posted by Spidy  [View Original Post]
    AEMO boss Daniel Westerman -- "Australia's operational paradigm is no longer 'baseload-and-peaking', but increasingly its a paradigm of 'renewables-and-firming'. It's a crucial point to understand:
    From ChatGPT, here's South Australia's total energy consumption by source. I believe SA's share of consumption from renewables should be higher than other states based on what I recall you posting, but could be wrong. These numbers are adjusted for Victoria interconnects.

    Liquid petroleum products 42% to 45%
    Natural Gas 30% to 34%
    Renewables (wind, solar, bioenergy) 14% to 18%
    Coal 3% to 6%
    Other 3% to 5%

    Quote Originally Posted by Spidy  [View Original Post]

    Coal use dropped in China and India in 2025. It rose in USA, hiking energy costs, January 19th, 2025 https://electrek.co/2026/01/19/coal-...-energy-costs/

    So in the USA, higher natural gas prices and the policy shift by the MAGA Fuhrer and his shit-show administration, which included issuing orders to keep open coal-fired plants slated for closure, led to the country posting an 8% to 13% increase in demand in 2025 and the largest absolute gains and approximately 37 million tons, leading to a 2.4% increase in carbon emissions in the United States.
    Did Trump really issue orders to companies to keep coal fired power plants open? I doubt it.

    According to ChatGPT, more of the increase in coal consumption was caused by higher natural gas prices than MAGA Fuhrer shit-show policies. The average price of natural gas (Henry Hub) was $2.41/MMBTU in 2024 and $3.62 in 2025. That's a 50% increase.

    Something similar happened in 2021 during the Biden administration. The price of natural gas shot up from an average of $2.13 per MMBTU in 2020 to $3.72 in 2021, resulting in an increase from 477 million short tons annual coal consumption to 546 million tons. And you can't blame the increase mostly on the rebound from COVID. According to ChatGPT, electricity demand in 2021 rose 3% to 4%, while coal consumption rose 14.4%.

    The Energy Information Administration projects coal consumption will fall from 452 million tons in 2025 to 417 million tons in 2026.

    As to the increase in carbon emissions, blame data centers. Coal is a reliable, 24 hour a day power source, which is what data centers want.

    Btw, coal consumption during the first Trump Administration went down. Here's production in short tons, from the EIA,

    2017 717 million tons
    2018 687 million tons
    2019 587 million tons
    2020 477 million tons

    Consumption was down by a whopping 100 million tons per year in each of 2019 and 2020. Should we give Trump all the credit for 2020? Well, by Tooms logic, we sure should. He blames the COVID recession, huge COVID deficits, and COVID deaths on Trump. If you do that you have to give him credit for the coal too!

    To some extent though I share your concerns. The way to address them IMHO is through a reasonable carbon tax, designed not to affect exports. Use the proceeds to reduce the deficit or the income tax. And perhaps an equivalent tax on particulates and SO2, that would be a function of the population density in the vicinity of the power plant. That would sure beat Biden's huge corporate welfare or Obama's mandates to promote renewables, which waste taxpayer money and make markets less efficient.

    We agree that the Chinese are no dummies. And they're installing new coal fired capacity. That should tell us something. The USA is not only the Saudi Arabia of natural gas, it's also the Saudi Arabia of coal.

    Quote Originally Posted by Spidy  [View Original Post]
    And while China is the largest annual CO2 emitter, it is worth mentioning, that while is not everything, it's not nothing either, as they move to electrify everything and mitigate as much of their carbon foot print as possible and how for example Autonomous electric trucks drive China's shift to smart, green mining, https://english.news.cn/20260204/070...a3a0e8b/c.html

    Yeah, how about that, just checkout China's smart (5 G technology) green, electrotech coal mining operations. EV mining trucks, autonomously hauling coal, to be used as electricity to power China and themselves, while saving millions in diesel fossil fuel, operation costs.

    Chinese driverless, autonomous electric mining trucks ...the U.S. not so much!
    You realize those big electric trucks involved in mining operations are mostly used to extract dirty, dirty coal? I wonder how much of the electricity used to charge those trucks comes from coal? I don't know the answer to the second question.

  3. #20723

    Israel

    Quote Originally Posted by Elvis2008  [View Original Post]
    And here your own hypothesis blows up in your face. Trump is irrationally bound to Israel but so is 90% of the Senate. And? Does that mean 90% of the Senate is irrational as well? Or does it mean 90% of the Senate and Trump are rational? Or is 90% of the Senate and Trump irrational but you are the rational one?

    BTW, Kamala was not just married to a white guy but married to a Jewish white guy and was a senator to boot. So in your opinion, do you think she would have acted differently? LOL.

    So now we have Kamala, 90% of the Senate, and Trump are rational but you are sane? LOL. It must be nice to be so confident that you are right and everyone else is off their rocker.
    Here's something that just came out. Netanyahu has worked 5 US presidents. He asked G. W Bush, Bill Clinton, Barack Obama, Joe Biden and Donald Trump. He asked all 5 including Trump in his first year to attack Iran. Only one president agreed to this and it was Trump in last term.

    We are being used!

  4. #20722

    Inflation Spikes!

    Inflation is up. But, we know the clown in the White House will continue to threaten, harass, and harangue the Fed to lower interest rates. Which would only serve to drive inflation up even more! What an incredible bozo of a clown we have in the White House right now! A totally stupid, ignorant, dangerous, and ineffective clown of a little man!

    https://www.cnbc.com/2026/04/10/cpi-...arch-2026.html

  5. #20721
    Quote Originally Posted by EihTooms  [View Original Post]
    Estimated tax rates on how much income?
    We have a steeply progressive income tax system. The more money you make, the higher the tax rate. So a Republican who pays at an effective tax rate of 15% probably pays much more than 2 X the tax that a Democrat with a rate of 7. 5% pays.

    Quote Originally Posted by EihTooms  [View Original Post]
    Melania said the baby was delicious...
    Yummy!

  6. #20720

    Neither you nor anyone else paid into my retirement income.

    Quote Originally Posted by Elvis2008  [View Original Post]
    Seeing as how two out of three tax dollars is just redistributed, the fucking blue states can keep right on paying for your hookers abroad. God, what a thing for someone banging hookers in Thailand to say! Here is novel idea for you and the other parasites: Pay for your own hookers and leave taxpayers the fuck alone!
    At most an employer kicked in 6.75% or so of income they could have paid me but paid into FICA instead while I was delivering far more value to them than I was getting back in compensation.

    Similar to Blue states like California relative to America in general and Red states in particular.

    But, yeah, in a sense you are absolutely right that Blue states are now and will in the future be paying you and other deadbeat Repub MAGAs in Red states a disproportionately high percentage of any Social Security income and Medicare reimbursement you Repub MAGA Red staters need and enjoy in your retirement years.

    To continue an ongoing theme over the past several decades, we American tax-payers from Blue states like California offer a very heartfelt "You're welcome" to Aunt Bea, Jethro, Granny, Gomer, Goober, Barney Fife, Uncle Jed, Tony, you and Ellie-Mae, whose butt was too big for me to be interested in fucking her, 3-4 kilos bigger than the butts of the sweet young Asian girls I prefer to fuck and get royally blown by for my well-earned retirement income money.
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  7. #20719
    Quote Originally Posted by HotDog666  [View Original Post]
    It takes a level of derangement that I am incapable of even fathoming to say "But just because Trump is rational ". I cannot fathom how any sane person could see rationality in any of this.

    The DF got roped into this by the nefarious nation of Israel which holds America by the balls and America does its bidding. Not because of Epstein but because 90% of the senate are taking money from AIPAC. And that's just scratching the surface. America is subservient to Israel. If you don't know that then your level of delusions are more than I can deal with.
    And here your own hypothesis blows up in your face. Trump is irrationally bound to Israel but so is 90% of the Senate. And? Does that mean 90% of the Senate is irrational as well? Or does it mean 90% of the Senate and Trump are rational? Or is 90% of the Senate and Trump irrational but you are the rational one?

    BTW, Kamala was not just married to a white guy but married to a Jewish white guy and was a senator to boot. So in your opinion, do you think she would have acted differently? LOL.

    So now we have Kamala, 90% of the Senate, and Trump are rational but you are sane? LOL. It must be nice to be so confident that you are right and everyone else is off their rocker.

  8. #20718

    WTF are you talking about?

    With your spiel about porn stars and dems, and election losses.

    It takes a level of derangement that I am incapable of even fathoming to say "But just because Trump is rational ". I cannot fathom how any sane person could see rationality in any of this.

    The DF got roped into this by the nefarious nation of Israel which holds America by the balls and America does its bidding. Not because of Epstein but because 90% of the senate are taking money from AIPAC. And that's just scratching the surface. America is subservient to Israel. If you don't know that then your level of delusions are more than I can deal with.

    There was no other reason for America to go to war- for the Uranium? The one they "obliterated" last year? Or the one that they were in active negotiations on with Iran? But wait, that's not the reason that he morphed into: it was regime change. But wait, it wasn't even that. It was liberating the Iranian people. In life when people throw out reasons like darts, the fact usually is that all of them are bullshit reasons and excuses. In life if you have a purpose for doing something, it's clear and lucid and doesn't need multiple other supposed reasons. And a cassus bellus needs to be just that.

    Don't BS me with your "he's rational". That's crap as hell. He is capricious, naive beyond hell, has little ability to see beyond his nose let alone 2 steps ahead, and got roped into this by the Israelis who saw an opportunity to rid themselves of their biggest adversary in the region using America as their tool as they always do. THAT is the truth of the matter, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. Keep bullshitting yourself if you wish but that won't change the reality.

    Quote Originally Posted by Elvis2008  [View Original Post]
    And this is why you have TDS. You are so anti-Trump that you do not even get what the mission is. Yes, Israel roped Trump into this war but why? Because of how much uranium Iran has. This is like Maduro all over again. You are so anti-Trump that you wanted 30 million Venezuelans to suffer. And now you have such TDS that you are okay with Iran having the bomb and being able to kill millions.

    As for the "I am a fucking crazy loon" tactic, Trump keeps playing that card, and you dumb Dems (and now the Iranians) keep buying it. It just blows me away how much this tactic keeps working. You have lost two (and probably three) elections to him and you TDS fools still do not get how you are being played. You keep coming up with all these dumb excuses for why you have been so wrong about Trump, but you do not get the truth: Trump is rational, and his "I am a crazy loon" tactic keeps working because you all want him to be that crazy..

  9. #20717
    Quote Originally Posted by EihTooms  [View Original Post]
    However, the AI response to your question does underscore that Blue states have higher average tax burdens to help pay more for America's needs than do Red states. As I have asserted and repeatedly shown.
    Seeing as how two out of three tax dollars is just redistributed, the fucking blue states can keep right on paying for your hookers abroad. God, what a thing for someone banging hookers in Thailand to say! Here is novel idea for you and the other parasites: Pay for your own hookers and leave taxpayers the fuck alone!

  10. #20716

    Estimated tax rates on how much income?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tiny12  [View Original Post]
    Here's what Gemini Deep Research says, as to its estimates of federal tax rates borne by Democrats vs. Republicans for the last 8 presidential elections, based on exit polls. Please note that party affiliation was based on who the respondent voted for President. So when Trump ran, there were a lot of upper income, highly taxed Republicans who didn't vote for him. They would show up as Democrats or "other" in the polls.

    Average estimated tax rates:

    1996 Democrat: 9. 2% Republican: 17.5%.

    2000 Democrat: 9. 8% Republican: 16.2%.

    2004 Democrat: 8. 5% Republican: 15.4%.

    2008 Democrat: 10.1% Republican: 14.8%..
    Melania said the baby was delicious although a tad bit overdone. Swear to god.

    Um. AI and all the pertinent links in the universe have pointed out that incomes are generally higher in Blue states and there are more Americans with those higher incomes in Blue states. Percentages are fun. But you must already know that smaller percentages of larger incomes can pay for more stuff than larger percentages of smaller incomes.

    A 3 percentage point increase in tax rates for higher income earning Dems between 2020 and 2024 in the midst of one of the greatest Dem recoveries and private-sector jobs creation from another Great Repub Economic Disaster had nothing to do with Trump squeaking out another razor-thin election win.

    Not one typically Blue state flipped to Trump in 2024.

    Only one typically Dem voting demographic in the only three swing states that mattered swung just enough votes from Dem to Repub to secure the win for Trump. And it was on one issue having nothing to do with the economy, inflation, immigration, crime, pronouns or where trannies pee.

    Even Trump knows he owes nothing to America's "poor and middle class" for that squeaker of a razor-thin election win by a swing of less than a single percentage point of that one demographic's votes from Dem to Repub spread across those three states. And so does Netanyahu and the Muslim Community of voters in PA, MI and WI whose less than a single percentage point swing of their potential votes in those three states secured that win for Trump.

    Which is why Trump has no interest whatsoever in making life easier for the "poor and middle class" in America with his Liberation From Your Job Day Tariffs, his little bit of an excursion to skyrocket gas and energy prices, his total reversal of rally after rally promises to use only USA-made steel for his construction projects LOL etc. He knows there is nothing they gifted him with to pay them back for!

    He and Netanyahu and the Muslims in those Gulf States that were to benefit from Trump's utter fiasco Iran War are the ones he is paying back for his razor-thin squeaker of an election win in 2024:

    To Netanyahu for delaying the May 2024 Biden-negotiated ceasefire until after the election.

    To the less than a single percentage point of Muslim Community voters in those three swing states whose anger with the Biden Administration over its support for Israel which they took for support for Netanyahu was stoked by that move by Netanyahu to swing just enough of their votes from a member of the Biden Administration to Trump in order to squeak out that razor-thin win.

    To Qatar for that sweet bribe of a $400 Million airliner.

    To the UAE for that sweet bribe of $Billions to bail out the Trump Crime Family's failed crypto venture.

    To Saudi Arabia for that sweet bribe of $Billions to Trump's son-in-law and daughter.

    Trump figured out paying back those huge favors and sweet bribes with Americans' blood, lives and tax dollars in an unprovoked Iran War was a nifty idea.

    But his only interest was in pleasing his benefactors by fulfilling their wishes of America starting the Iran War. After that, he really doesn't give a shit. Of course. As far as he's concerned he did his part to pay back those folks for the great favors and bribes they lavished on him and his Crime Family. The colossal mess and expense that follows is up to them and America to deal with.

    LOL. Trump, Netanyahu and those Muslim country leaders would crack up with a laugh "unlike anyone has ever heard" at your assertion that the poor and middle class in America were responsible for Trump's razor-thin squeaker of an election win in 2024. Lolol. You ought to send that to them in a tweet, a text, an email or whatever.
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  11. #20715

    Stop lying

    Quote Originally Posted by Elvis2008  [View Original Post]
    No, you did not. You degraded him and claimed that gasoline was $2 a gallon in podunk America. The truth is that gasoline was even less than that if you take away the taxes Oklahoma taxes. I posted the same thing when I was in West Texas after buying a RV.

    The really funny part is why gasoline in California is in fact so expensive. For some dumb reason, you always blame who is president on why gasoline prices are what they are. If that is the case, then Trump was wildly more successful than Biden, but that is not reality. California has its own brand of fuckery when it comes to gasoline.

    From Doomberg, California is effectively two fuel islands, one clustered around San Francisco and the other around LOS Angeles. Neither half of the state is connected by inbound oil or refined product pipelines to the outside world, and links between north and south are skimpy. Northern California in particular faces an urgent crisis, as one of its few remaining petroleum refineries is shutting down, leaving the region largely unable to provide for its own gasoline, diesel, or jet fuel. Everybody sees the problem coming, and few doubt it's just a matter of time before calamity strikes.

    Perhaps recognizing the light at the end of the tunnel for what it was, Newsom spent much of 2025 trying to undo some of the damage he and his party had previously causedif for no other reason than to extend-and-pretend the reckoning beyond his remaining time in office, which closes out in January 2027. When Valero announced the upcoming closure of its Benicia refinery, Newsom responded by negotiating directly with the company, exploring a possible transfer to another refiner, and using new market-stability tools to make continued operation more attractive. However, those efforts only secured a delayed, staged idling and import-terminal plan rather than long-term continued refining at the site..
    Thanks is right there in the Subject Line of my response to him providing a link that disproved his "huge economic gains" claim and proved my "middle of pudunk nowhere" minor blip on the disastrous Trump economy screen observation.

  12. #20714
    Quote Originally Posted by RamDavidson84  [View Original Post]
    LOL, or maybe after a decade of searching, he just didn't do anything illegal and he's telling the truth? The search continues. Hahahahaha.
    For sure, if was truth Nobel award, he would try to compete, same than for peace. Seem his Iranian war where Americans died, was his desperate try to try to avoid defeat on November, same than criminal Netanyahou makes war with almost everybody, to avoid Israelian justice. Still war when elections would be better for him.

  13. #20713

    Electrosate vs. Petrostate: No SA 'baseload' required, but autonomous mining trucks?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tiny12  [View Original Post]
    Absolutely true. Spidy has used South Australia as a role model. Well, conditions for solar and wind there are among the best in the world. But for baseload power, South Australia still must rely on natural gas from the Cooper Basin and interconnects from Victoria. And Victoria generates electricity mostly from dirty, dirty coal.
    AEMO boss Daniel Westerman -- "Australia's operational paradigm is no longer 'baseload-and-peaking', but increasingly its a paradigm of 'renewables-and-firming'. It's a crucial point to understand:

    Quote Originally Posted by Tiny12  [View Original Post]
    What can I say that I haven't already said.

    https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/a...ns-per-country
    Don't say anything! Just listen for a change!

    Quote Originally Posted by Tiny12  [View Original Post]
    Why do you even attempt to argue Alberta politics with an Albertan? He's going to kick your ass, if he chooses to waste the time to do so.
    Unlike the MAGA side of America, I am remain interested in the global south (or north) and world politics related to energy, among other things, other then when your MAGA Fuhrer is blowing up stuff. But by all means you can go back and put your MAGA blinders on.

    I'm sure Canada, is quite able to speak for himself and is welcome to try, if he's not too busy, getting his ass kissed by you!

    Coal use dropped in China and India in 2025. It rose in USA, hiking energy costs, January 19th, 2025 https://electrek.co/2026/01/19/coal-...-energy-costs/

    So in the USA, higher natural gas prices and the policy shift by the MAGA Fuhrer and his shit-show administration, which included issuing orders to keep open coal-fired plants slated for closure, led to the country posting an 8% to 13% increase in demand in 2025 and the largest absolute gains and approximately 37 million tons, leading to a 2.4% increase in carbon emissions in the United States.

    And while China is the largest annual CO2 emitter, it is worth mentioning, that while is not everything, it's not nothing either, as they move to electrify everything and mitigate as much of their carbon foot print as possible and how for example Autonomous electric trucks drive China's shift to smart, green mining, https://english.news.cn/20260204/070...a3a0e8b/c.html

    Yeah, how about that, just checkout China's smart (5 G technology) green, electrotech coal mining operations. EV mining trucks, autonomously hauling coal, to be used as electricity to power China and themselves, while saving millions in diesel fossil fuel, operation costs.

    Chinese driverless, autonomous electric mining trucks ...the U.S. not so much!

  14. #20712
    Quote Originally Posted by EihTooms  [View Original Post]
    This is a classic failure to back up a claim with a credible source link or to at least quote the passage from an AI result that you think supports it even if it doesn't. As it doesn't in this case:

    Well, I see nothing supporting what you claimed.

    However, the AI response to your question does underscore that Blue states have higher average tax burdens to help pay more for America's needs than do Red states. As I have asserted and repeatedly shown.

    It's only that, being deadbeats by their very nature, high-earning Repubs "think", "feel" and "percieve" that they pay too much for those benefits for America despite the fact that Blue states pay more for them while high-earning Dems bellyache, whine and cry far, far less about paying for what benefits America than Repubs do despite the fact that their Blue states are paying more for it than Red states.

    Which is exemplified by those higher burdened American tax-payers from California always offering our heartfelt "You're welcome" to Aunt Bea, Jethro, Gomer, Goober, Granny, Ellie-Mae, Uncle Jed, Elvis and you.
    Here's what Gemini Deep Research says, as to its estimates of federal tax rates borne by Democrats vs. Republicans for the last 8 presidential elections, based on exit polls. Please note that party affiliation was based on who the respondent voted for President. So when Trump ran, there were a lot of upper income, highly taxed Republicans who didn't vote for him. They would show up as Democrats or "other" in the polls.

    Average estimated tax rates:

    1996 Democrat: 9. 2% Republican: 17.5%.

    2000 Democrat: 9. 8% Republican: 16.2%.

    2004 Democrat: 8. 5% Republican: 15.4%.

    2008 Democrat: 10.1% Republican: 14.8%.

    2012 Democrat: 7. 4% Republican: 18.2%

    2016 Democrat: 11.5% Republican: 13.9%.

    2020 Democrat: 12.8% Republican: 12.1%.

    2024 Democfrat: 16.1% Republican: 11.4%.

    So people voting for the Republican presidential candidate paid a lot more than their fair share up through the 2012 election. In 2016 they paid somewhat more. In 2020 the numbers were about equal. And in 2024 people voting for Kamala Harris paid a lot more than their fair share.

    Basically, the poor and middle class in America were so fed up with Biden's idiotic economic policies that they voted for Trump in 2024. While upper income Americans were so fed up with Trump they voted for Harris. I of course voted for Chase Oliver, armed and gay!

    State and local taxes are irrelevant to the question at hand, which is whether Republicans or Democrats contribute more per person to the federal government. Undoubtedly Californians on average pay more in total taxes, state, local and federal, than residents of other states, because of their greedy and profligate state and municipal governments. Yes indeed, blue state residents pay more taxes than red state residents. And that's why they're moving to red states.

    Here's the complete report. I didn't read it.

    https://gemini.google.com/share/cea9a3e7c785

    Click the down arrows for links to supporting web pages.

    P.S. Ellie Mae never would have fucked you. You're too liberal.

  15. #20711

    California's Newsome vs. The Pick-Pocket and Grifter MAGA Fuhrer

    Quote Originally Posted by Canada  [View Original Post]
    Yes Newsome proposed a balanced budget just like he proposed the following.

    Proposed High speed rail. Billions spent and no high speed rail.
    Proposed fixing the homeless problem. Billions spent and more homeless year after year.
    Proposed new gas tax to fix the roads and highways. Billions collected in gas tax and CA roads worst in the nation.
    Proposed a balanced budget in 2025 and huge deficit.
    Newsome proposal tax the millionaire to collect more taxes. Millionaires leaving state for Texas and Florida so collecting less taxes.
    Yes almost, but not as proud as you are, having your MAGA Fuhrer, increase the national debt by $2.25 trillion, in the first year back in charge, https://fortune.com/2026/01/20/how-m...ice-president/

    Yes almost, but not as proud as you are, having your MAGA Fuhrer, interfere in an sovereign election and give Argentine $40 billion (and not USA Farmers and businesses).

    Yes almost, but not as proud as you are, having your corrupt MAGA Fuhrer, pick-pocket American taxpayers (so far) to the tune of $3.4 bn, into his own pockets and family pockets, while in his second term in office. https://factually.co/fact-checks/pol...-office-847256

    Yes almost, but not as proud as you are, having your MAGA Fuhrer, plunge the United States into insolvency. https://fortune.com/2026/03/23/us-go...al-crisis-fix/

    Yes almost, but not as proud as you are, having your MAGA Fuhrer, in illegal war after illegal war, costing $1+ billion a day (by some estimates).

    Let's face it, most big utility projects will have cost overruns. But California's HSR project ran foul and suffered from a shit-ton of "right-of-way" and eminent domain legal conflicts. When the laws and legislation around "right-of-way" get cleaned up and simplified, the better off America will be for such large scale nationwide or state projects. Something I might add Florida HSR, never had.

    It's a whole other conversation, but even the HSR in Florida, isn't producing the ridership, touted by Gov. Ron DeSantis, as investors are delayed again for payment owed. Which brings up a really good question, "Will HSR ever really be viable and widely adopted, in the U.S.?"

    According to EithTooms latest post here:http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...=1#post3059439 under Gov. Gavin Newson, California's California's $4 Trillion economy outpaces major nations and is now the world's 4th largest economy, passing Japan. That says a lot, despite all the concerns and challenges, you cite. https://www.edhat.com/california/new...-report-shows/

    But this much is clear, while Newsome has always had Californians best interests at heart, your MAGA Fuhrer only cares about enriching himself, his family and his billionaire cronies on the backs of hardworking Americans.

    I'll finish by quoting EihTooms:

    Quote Originally Posted by EihTooms  [View Original Post]
    California, Joe Biden, Kamala Harris and the Dems offer a heartfelt, "You're welcome, Aunt Bea, Jethro, Gomer, Tiny, Elvis and Granny. "

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